I shot with David at a simulated corporate event when the 1st select was coming out. He supplied a slab for me to use and found them to be a very good cartridge. A very friendly, knowledgeable chap. Very interesting to talk and listen to him throughout the day. The select cartridges performed incredibly well for me and I continue to use them today
I agree with this video. I am surprised to see in other videos on youtube, people shooting pheasant with heavy load and no 4 shot, which will literally rip a pheasant and make it unfit for eating. You dont need these heavy loads to shoot high pheasant. I have shot high pheasants for over 30 years with no 7 shot 28 cartridges and with a shotgun with true cylinder and improved cylinder. Most birds are taken at 35 yards which does not need a tight choke and will still bring down a 50 yard bird if the lead is correct. The pattern only needs to hit the bird with 2 or 3 pellets which makes the bird good for the table and looking almost undamaged. If you want to know more confirmation, read the books of Colonel Ruffer who explains the ballistics, choke and shot patters for shooting pheasant. You do not need heavy loads or shot bigger than no 6, for pheasant, grouse, pigeon or woodcock..
Graham Cotton I think that's only really important if you're shooting live quarry at longer ranges, for clays, I'd be surprised if most people noticed a difference using a faster cartridge, along of shooting is in the head imo, if the faster cartridge gives you the confidence, then great, I'd prefer to buy what's reasonably priced and breaks clays 😄
For clay shooting any normal club target can be killed by a competent shooter with 21g. Maybe 24g for battue, they being edge on where slightly more pellets COULD make the difference. Even Olympic disciplines use 24g, and no higher, so why over cartridge yourself? Pattern and accuracy is what kills, not load. And accuracy will remain towards the end of a round purely because of less fatigue.
Doesn't matter how fast they are so long as they are always the same speed so the lead is the same. Pattern is far more important for clean breaks. Smooth shooting is better for quick followup shots. Chopping and changing between cartridges can't be a good thing.
I shot with David at a simulated corporate event when the 1st select was coming out. He supplied a slab for me to use and found them to be a very good cartridge. A very friendly, knowledgeable chap. Very interesting to talk and listen to him throughout the day. The select cartridges performed incredibly well for me and I continue to use them today
Patterning your gun...very true ...very important...the gun has to shoot where we look!
good to see you here, i'm a big fan of you
It's the only way!
Your silver pigeon shoots good? Or shoots below?
I agree with this video. I am surprised to see in other videos on youtube, people shooting pheasant with heavy load and no 4 shot, which will literally rip a pheasant and make it unfit for eating. You dont need these heavy loads to shoot high pheasant.
I have shot high pheasants for over 30 years with no 7 shot 28 cartridges and with a shotgun with true cylinder and improved cylinder. Most birds are taken at 35 yards which does not need a tight choke and will still bring down a 50 yard bird if the lead is correct. The pattern only needs to hit the bird with 2 or 3 pellets which makes the bird good for the table and looking almost undamaged.
If you want to know more confirmation, read the books of Colonel Ruffer who explains the ballistics, choke and shot patters for shooting pheasant. You do not need heavy loads or shot bigger than no 6, for pheasant, grouse, pigeon or woodcock..
Yup! I shoot partridge with 7s for this reason, but I like 5s on proper high pheasants. And of course 4 or 5 steel on duck.
Patterns and controllability - very true, but there's no mention of down range energy carried by the faster cartridge pellets. It's a complex subject.
You're absolutely right Graham, there's more to this than could ever be covered in a short video. I'm sure we'll return to the subject again!
Graham Cotton I think that's only really important if you're shooting live quarry at longer ranges, for clays, I'd be surprised if most people noticed a difference using a faster cartridge, along of shooting is in the head imo, if the faster cartridge gives you the confidence, then great, I'd prefer to buy what's reasonably priced and breaks clays 😄
Thank you!
For clay shooting any normal club target can be killed by a competent shooter with 21g. Maybe 24g for battue, they being edge on where slightly more pellets COULD make the difference. Even Olympic disciplines use 24g, and no higher, so why over cartridge yourself? Pattern and accuracy is what kills, not load. And accuracy will remain towards the end of a round purely because of less fatigue.
Doesn't matter how fast they are so long as they are always the same speed so the lead is the same.
Pattern is far more important for clean breaks.
Smooth shooting is better for quick followup shots.
Chopping and changing between cartridges can't be a good thing.
Do you ship to Canada??
Why doesn't Eley import shot shells to the states? Right now they would be selling like crazy.
makes sense
I only use eley...
Sellier ^ Bellot take some beating affordable to ,I shoot super trap bang on.
My lead at 50yds is the same no matter what speed she'll I'm shooting.