And it’s gotten so bad that literally none of his friends or even his parents want to be around him anymore and he’s too dense to figure out that the problem isn’t them or rock music but rather himself and his holier than thou attitude.
I'm reminded of the song "Brainwashed" by George Harrison, where he sings about people getting brainwashed by different things like the media as one example.
"They say rock and roll is the Devil's music. Well, let's say that it is - I've got news for ya - let's say that rock and roll is the Devil's music and we know it for a fact to be absolutely unequivocally true... boy, at least he fuckin' jams!" - Bill Hicks
Here's what I think happened to Jeff after the end: He screams "SINNERS!" as he keeps smashing records. Once he's done, he shouts "I AM SAVED!" then collapses. He wakes up in a hospital about two weeks later, surrounded by family and friends. The doctor tells him he suffered a simultaneous heart attack and stroke, and that it was a miracle he came out of his coma. He tells everyone that while in the coma, he talked to God. Among other things, God tells him that he was going too far, that rock and roll is the LEAST of society's probelms and that double whammy was the mother of all wakeup calls. Jeff starts making amends, apologizing about what an overbearing, preachy asshole he was, and that while he might not like their tastes in music, he can certainly give it another try.
I can understand if he was an obese teen if he had a heart attack and / or a stroke at a young age. But he is not fat, so the heart attack idea isn't possible!
To quote that guy that looks vaguely like Snob 😉😎 "In the first place metaphor. In the second place it's about a woman causing a shallow man to have everlasting torment."
"Illicit Sex, Drugs, Mocking God, and the Occult aren't these things often found in Rock Music" I thought he wanted the kid NOT to listen to Rock Music. That sounds more like a sales pitch to me than a warning.
One of the weirdest things about fundies is that they think Occult magic is real. Telling kids that Harry Potter spells are real would push more kids into reading it, not turn them away.
Honestly, I'm not really into drugs. 'Cept maybe weed. But the only people who might be convinced against Rock and Roll are Born Agains. And even then, Christains have their own form of rock now. I'm not much of a Christian and I LOVE Feel Like A Monster, and that's considered a Christian song.
Brad going "How DARE you enjoy something that you like!" from the original review is my go-to response to people complaining about being "cringey" in fandom.
I can forgive cringey, but the intrusive part of the fandom, by which I mean the ones that try to force their beleifs onto others, are kinda similar to Jeff.
The timing would be right, and Lord knows, Jeff sounds like a younger version of the pastor character. He's just as judgmental and even angrier than John Lithgow was. Ren would be the audience stand-in that wants to tell all these Holy Rollers to just lighten up!
@@mechazoic Holy shit. (No pun intended) And it almost seems like the inverse of Footloose, which the God Awful Movies podcast also noticed! Oh, and the fact that Footloose had better cinematography while It's Your Decision had the budget of a sacramental wafer.
Its so weird to me. Like, objectively, its a story of an innocent young man ruined and corrupted. But its potrayed like he's right even though it shows how miserable he's become. Most movies like this, gods not dead for example, have everyone see the main guy as correct and everyone loves him because whi the fuck would want to be like the bigoted miserable prick in this movie.
Yeah he does. I think even the pastor tried to tell him to tone it down, but Jeff ain’t having that and proceeds to somehow get his head lodged so deep in his own ass it somehow reached the sternum.
Oh I remember the "DVR-Hell" of this movie. This should be considered the "Reefer Madness" of Christian movies. In that it completely misses the mark with its supposed message about the "evils of rock music", which there is no evil in rock music.
I love these films, because it 's those type of people I'd love to sit down and study. I'm a huge Metal head, wrestling fan, Horror fan, video games.. everything those folks call out being evil. They never talk about free will or loving everyone without judging others. You'll never hear, A kid talks to his Christian Mom, I saw Billy today he was listening to Heavy Metal, I thought it was scary, but he is a nice person. He doesn't do drugs. His Mom turns around with a joint in her Mom. Praise God, pass the Black Sabbath.
Reminds me of the song "Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition" which I point out because those lyrics are kinda hardcore for World War era jazz and yet we don't hear anyone complaining about that. Maybe they complained but it's nothing compared to the flak rock and roll got.
I can't be the only one getting major 'Old Fashioned' vibes in the way this kid has become a total buzzkill. The scene were Jeff throws a fit at the party because they put on rock music is *exactly* like the scene where Clay throws a fit during the bachelor party.
You're not. That scene and the scene where he gives Melissa an icy look while saying "we've discussed this" are eerily similar to Old-Fashioned. Both main characters believe they're better than everyone else while acting like obsessive creeps on so many occasions, you end up hating them both before the credits roll.
Jeff definitely grew up to be Clay. Just moved elsewhere to go live with his grandma or whatever and just decided to be a creep towards this poor woman.
YES. I'm so glad other people got that vibe too. I feel like the two would get along great. Think of all the parties they could ruin before people stop inviting them anymore!
I would love it if the pastor gave him tapes of “ethnic” (because Jeff would totally call it that) music, like jazz, mariachi bands, Mongolian throat songs, and classic British Isles folk songs, or even sea shanties. That would’ve been hilarious!
They wouldn’t have allowed Jazz, if they were super old school they would say it’s devil music, mostly because of its association with black people. That’s how it was viewed by old school religious fundamentalists.
Absolutely ridiculous. Alex Jones loves his rock and roll. He routinely uses Metallica and AC/DC songs as bumper music. Don't speak out of ignorance, friend.
This reminds me of when my parents and grandparents (who were hardcore Christians) had a talk with me about the music I listen to when I was a teenager. They were doing everything they can to put me off listening to metal, like saying they watched a documentary about cults and a bunch of other stuff, then my dad asked would I consider giving it up. Teenage me just scoffed and ignored it. A few months later my dad realised he was harsh on me apologized. This film would honestly be the sort of thing they would show me back then.
He's holding up Lyn Skyn's first album and says that the songs are all about sex or drugs. I wanted to test how far he had to stretch his mind to get there so here's the tracks: I Ain't the One - he's right here. This one's about the singer telling a pregnant woman he wasn't the one who did it and thus he's leaving before she puts "a hook in" him." Tuesday's Gone - no way is he right here. The title and the song are in no way dirty. It's just a breakup song. To stretch this one to being dirty you've just got to figure that the mention of women by men is suggestive. Gimme Three Steps - eh, kinda. It's just a guy flirting with a girl when her boyfriend comes and threatens the singer with a gun, so he asks for three steps towards the door. Again, only "bad" if the idea of people being in bars and owning guns is offensive to God. Simple Man - this is practically a christian song. Ronny Van Zant wrote this about his own mother's advice to him, which includes remembering "there's someone up above," and "be something you love and understand." To make this dirty, whew, I guess it does use the word lust when he says to "forget your lust for the rich man's gold." Things Goin' On - this is a political song saying that then current events are bad, such as "too many lives spent across the ocean, too much money they spent up on the moon." The song does mention getting high, in the sense that it says that politicians don't care about people, "they just sit up there and just get high." So I guess it does mention drugs. Kinda missing the point calling this song out as bad. Mississippi Kid - this is a 12 bar blues song about a kid from Mississippi going to Alabama to bring back "his woman" who ran there, threatening violence to anyone who gets in his way. Certainly this is a problematic song what with all of the violence it conjures up. I could see where this kid would call this a bad song, but it'd be interesting to hear this church's advice on whether the woman mentioned in this song should leave this clearly abusive relationship. Poison Whiskey - really more a PSA than a dirty song. It's about drinking sure, but it talks about how whiskey (alcoholism by extension), will inevitably kill. This song is just about the singer remembering how they took his dad to a doctor and were told that "20 years of rotgut whiskey done killed this poor man dead." The final advice is "don't drink that poison whiskey, don't you drink it boy." The only way this is a somehow offensive song is if the mention of death or alcohol is offensive. Oh, it does mention Satan, in that it equates alcoholism to the work of Satan to kill people really slow. I don't see where this kid would disagree with the song. Free Bird - man, you don't love this song you can stick your holiness right up your ass and fly out to purgatory where Saint Peter's gonna be rocking out to this song calling you a square.
Good Review. What gets me besides the fact that Jeff is a total jerk, is that he says that his Girlfriend, and Friends says are ashamed of him for being a Christian (which he is not acting like), despite that the fact that his Girlfriend & Friends are Christians.
When they say "Rock: It's Your Decision" they mean it's Jeff's decision because he is the main character. If he is attending a party and the people there are listening to rock, it's his decision whether they should be allowed to do that.
Ah yes, the movie that's a cautionary tale about how dedication to religion saps people of their individuality, makes them overly-moral assholes, and causes them to lose all their friends. At least that's what I got from it.
Well, turns out Brad only listens to people on Reddit. I tried telling him about Ron Ormond's The Grim Reaper in several UA-cam videos and he says he learned about it from Reddit.
A saying that used to, and likely still does, exist in many Christian institutions is "Dancing makes babies". I wonder if they got some of their ideas from the final speech of this movie.
@@candydemure The more babies, the more to bring into the church for indoctrination (which is against the International Convention on the Rights of the Child)
Ah, this takes me back. When I went to the cinema snob website every week for midnight screenings and state fair reviews and … uh… the one former member of brads team who at the time was a fan favorite but is not spoken of now… And 80s Dan
@@UlshaRS It was evil if it was done to your property without your permission. Remember, Lot from Sodom was the one good guy in the city despite offering his virgin daughters up to the mob.
While listening to Nugent and Kid Rock. Sounds about white. Not that I like X and B since I don't like their music anyways. I'll stick with classic "piss off Tipper Gore" Prince thank you very much.
Hey, at least that Hell's got a way out. Not like, "oh, the back door's that way, Goku", I mean, and ACTUAL way to make progress and become a better person.
I was a teen-ager when this came out, though I didn't see it back then. Also had various attempts at becoming a Christian around that time, so, in a way, this reminds me of that time, and that interpretation of Christianity, which is really is an American form of Protestantism, that was around at the time, along with Christian comic books, including Jack T. Chick's little ones, and other media like that. Fortunately, I never got into it as deeply as Jeff does here, and have been a secularist for a few decades now. This could be used to show, even if entirely counter to its producers' purposes, how and why one can become a fanatic, because that's what Jeff turns into here.
I wasn't even born when it was made! 1982, so 13 years before. Which, by the way, is no excuse for the quality. The Secret of NIMH, The Thing, ET, Rambo First Blood, Tron, Conan, The Dark Crystal! All examples of much better films released in the exact same year! How can they claim our lifestlye is sinful when they don't have the generosity to invest in a better sound recording device?
The mall that the music store scene was shot in was located in Huntsville and just called "The Mall". It was dying even then and torn down about 15-20 years ago. Perfect metaphor for this film.
I read this on a random Amazon review so it can be taken with a grain of salt, but according to it, the actor who played Jeff thought this movie was the stupidest thing he'd ever heard of and only did it because it was a good paycheck
I would love to see a version of this where, instead of turning into the most insufferable little pissant in human history, Jeff turns on a Megadeth song, and his mother's head just explodes.
Or even better, he puts on Cry Out For A Hero and she goes full Blue Screen of Death Because Fist of the North Star has a FUCKTON of Christian allegories
14:50 "Jeff doesn't listen to rock music, therefore NO ONE is allowed to listen." Cinema Snob accidentally summarized all of modern-day evangelical Christianity.
> Christian claims people have told him the lyrics aren't that important as long as the music has rhythm proceed > Then Christian proceeds to show how he doesn't even know or understand the lyrics, cause the _meaning isn't important?_ > ... > Jesus, Bro!
"this is clearly s@t@n1c" the lyrics: i'm happy to be in loooooooooooooooooooooove yes in looooooooooooooooooooooooooove! "pure ev1l............THEY AREN'T MENTIONING JESUS EVERY 2 SECONDS!"
"Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be..." Well, as long as Hell has Queen's songs in it, I think I'd agree. Also, that song is comparing a bad girl to a demon and their relationship to be Hell on Earth, not literal Hell. You also had "Let there be Rock" by the same artist. What's wrong with that title?
I wonder if there was an extended ending. In which Jeff climbs a bell tower and shoots anyone on the street who happens to have a rock 'n roll record in their hand.
I doubt that since they are fans of Rock & Roll. However, this makes the comic even worse since their tribute to Rock & Roll is the equivalent of Madonna taking about herself during Aretha Franklin's tribute. A botched, attempt towards sympathy.
6:17 “Illicit sex, drugs, mocking God, the occult, all things often found in rock music.” Yes, of course, the song “God Gave Rock And Roll To You” is really about the occult and drugs. It’s quite obvious.
I agree, it explains three things: the self-loathing "What's wrong with me?" inner monologue at the start, and his out-of-nowhere bashing on homosexuals without giving any follow-up. Finally, he has less-than-zero chemistry with his girlfriend and seems more irritated by her than anything else.
When my dad became a Christian he destroyed all his Beatles and Rolling Stones records because he believed they were "evil." At least now he acknowledges that was pretty stupid, especially because original pressings of those records are worth a decent amount now.
It was dumb of your dad to do that because there was nothing wrong with The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. The Beatles songs were mostly about peace and love. As for The Rolling Stones? Their song Sympathy For The Devil was a song from the Devil's POV.
this is one of the most cringe things I've ever seen, was this REALLY made totally unironically? I mean, I know we all like to mock fundamentalist Christians for their general lack of intelligence, but I honestly can't see this being written by anyone other than a complete idiot. It's like a World War 2 movie that makes Hitler look like an awesome guy (not in a Jojo Rabbit kind of way, like if they did Heil Honey I'm Home as a serious drama)
And then he becomes head of a lynch mob and kills his own mother for liking soap operas, thus completing the Frankenstein analogy with the mother being killed by the monster she had created. No need to worry, Jeff was later killed by the protagonist of Far Cry 5.
For anybody interested, the "devils and demons" song is called Lady of Lies, and is from a movie called the Devil's Men, which is about Donald Pleasence taking down a Satanic cult.
@@Kylea1979 despite living in a house of non believers yes. And it was full of hilarious out of date media pretending that it was still relevant. I'm sure that's part of why I'm not religious. We even had the S. Perkle films, you know- topical to 1994 right?
I just like that they name dropped a great Jefferson Starship deep cut, Devil's Den. Devil's Den lyrics have nothing to do with Satanism, they're about politicians, royalty and money worship.
I like the original version better and particularly love how you tackle his surface level examples. Also, once again you miss the opportunity to point out one of his choices is an instrumental (“Soul Sacrifice”).
@@Vanreis I love the word problematic, meaning it's not quite a problem yet but we should probably do something about it, I wish it wasn't consigned to such a narrow viewpoint.
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Hank Hill: Can't you see you're not making Christianity better, you're just making rock n' roll worse.
I was in yough group when I first saw that episode. I thought that was 1 of the best lines in the show.😁
And Bart Simpson once said "Pfft. All the best bands are affiliated with Satan."
Bwaaahhhh
@Paulo Hernanndizz *worst
Possibly the worst episode of the show
I love the unintentional irony of Jeff constantly going on about how rock and roll is controlling people when he’s been clearly brainwashed
And it’s gotten so bad that literally none of his friends or even his parents want to be around him anymore and he’s too dense to figure out that the problem isn’t them or rock music but rather himself and his holier than thou attitude.
I'm reminded of the song "Brainwashed" by George Harrison, where he sings about people getting brainwashed by different things like the media as one example.
That's fundamentalism for you
You can tell brother Owens is cooler than your average preacher man cos he wears jeans with a sports coat.
"My point is, Jeff, that you're a terrible person." That's my new ringtone.
"They say rock and roll is the Devil's music. Well, let's say that it is - I've got news for ya - let's say that rock and roll is the Devil's music and we know it for a fact to be absolutely unequivocally true... boy, at least he fuckin' jams!" - Bill Hicks
Here's what I think happened to Jeff after the end: He screams "SINNERS!" as he keeps smashing records. Once he's done, he shouts "I AM SAVED!" then collapses. He wakes up in a hospital about two weeks later, surrounded by family and friends. The doctor tells him he suffered a simultaneous heart attack and stroke, and that it was a miracle he came out of his coma. He tells everyone that while in the coma, he talked to God. Among other things, God tells him that he was going too far, that rock and roll is the LEAST of society's probelms and that double whammy was the mother of all wakeup calls. Jeff starts making amends, apologizing about what an overbearing, preachy asshole he was, and that while he might not like their tastes in music, he can certainly give it another try.
Jeff would later become an Elevationist Christian after discovering his green thumb one summer after his hospitalization.
I like it!
His former friends then tell him to go fuck himself after how he treated them. His family ostracise him and he ends up working for Paul Joseph Watson.
I can understand if he was an obese teen if he had a heart attack and / or a stroke at a young age. But he is not fat, so the heart attack idea isn't possible!
@@melissacooper8724 Ever heard of heart attacks caused by stress?
"Hell ain't a bad place to be" - Not compared to spending time with Jeff, anyway~
Of course Hell isn't a bad place. Hell is from here to eternity...
To quote that guy that looks vaguely like Snob 😉😎 "In the first place metaphor. In the second place it's about a woman causing a shallow man to have everlasting torment."
Of course being in Hell wouldn’t be such a bad place to be in. You’d get away from all of the snobby music Nazis like Jeff!
It's also a song about a bad girl.
At this point I imagine Hell to be filled with nothing but Jeffs. THAT would be the worst.
Dude takes metaphors very literally...
He's basically 90% of my Twitter pain.
"Taking metaphors literally" perfectly describes pretty much any religion
I wonder what the other 10 percent is. Hehe.
"Illicit Sex, Drugs, Mocking God, and the Occult aren't these things often found in Rock Music"
I thought he wanted the kid NOT to listen to Rock Music. That sounds more like a sales pitch to me than a warning.
One of the weirdest things about fundies is that they think Occult magic is real. Telling kids that Harry Potter spells are real would push more kids into reading it, not turn them away.
I want in!😎
@@fattiger6957 Fundies are the only ones who think magic and occultism are real
Honestly, I'm not really into drugs. 'Cept maybe weed. But the only people who might be convinced against Rock and Roll are Born Agains. And even then, Christains have their own form of rock now. I'm not much of a Christian and I LOVE Feel Like A Monster, and that's considered a Christian song.
Remember, "occult" to them includes yoga, meditation and martial arts.
Brad going "How DARE you enjoy something that you like!" from the original review is my go-to response to people complaining about being "cringey" in fandom.
Still, you should lay off the pregnant Sonic fanart...
Definitely not written by a Brony.
@@pyramidhead6998 You proved his point.
I can forgive cringey, but the intrusive part of the fandom, by which I mean the ones that try to force their beleifs onto others, are kinda similar to Jeff.
I swear that Snob and that other guy he talks about are the same person. You never see them in the same room at the same time.
Yeah, like the Nostalgia Critic and that guy who used to wear glasses, wonder why...
I'm actually embarrassed to admit that back in the day, I actually thought Nostalgia Critic and Cinema Snob were played by the same guy.
@@julieporter7805 honestly when they both had hair they were pretty similar
I’m actually starting to wonder if _Footloose_ was made as a response to this movie because it’s almost its antithesis.
The timing would be right, and Lord knows, Jeff sounds like a younger version of the pastor character. He's just as judgmental and even angrier than John Lithgow was. Ren would be the audience stand-in that wants to tell all these Holy Rollers to just lighten up!
Could be. Who knows what is.
This was made before Footloose?
@@WillieManga 2 Years before
@@mechazoic Holy shit. (No pun intended) And it almost seems like the inverse of Footloose, which the God Awful Movies podcast also noticed! Oh, and the fact that Footloose had better cinematography while It's Your Decision had the budget of a sacramental wafer.
This is a remake so its its gonna be terrible!
(Nasally tone) "Terrrrrrrrrrrrible"
Oh wow, so THAT'S why this seems so familiar!
Maybe he can remake the Cannibal H review as well
Yeah the Thing was a terrible movie
This is one of the most unintentionally depressing films I've seen
It's a tragedy, but from the POV of the people Jeff knows, like Flowers for Algernon.
You would know Strong Sad
Its so weird to me. Like, objectively, its a story of an innocent young man ruined and corrupted. But its potrayed like he's right even though it shows how miserable he's become. Most movies like this, gods not dead for example, have everyone see the main guy as correct and everyone loves him because whi the fuck would want to be like the bigoted miserable prick in this movie.
@@Junotaku Lol Whi is now my favorite spelling of Why.
@@therandomarchive2183 I'm sad that I'm watching.
Lloyd hopping on the back of your chair at the end of the original review is still the best Snob moment
Lloyd is the best photo bomber
It was the perfect gag to add to a dark joke. Lloyd is an unrecognized comedy genius.
Is it just me or does Jeff come off as more holier-than-you than the actual pastor?
Yeah he does. I think even the pastor tried to tell him to tone it down, but Jeff ain’t having that and proceeds to somehow get his head lodged so deep in his own ass it somehow reached the sternum.
Yes which is weird the pastor seems like a real cool open minded kind of Guy while the kid is just an ass hat
Jeff’s more holier than thou than Ned Flanders, Miss Censordoll from Moral Orel, Mary Cooper, and Eric Holm combined with a touch of Miss Velma.
Come to think of it, if Jeff had met Ned Flanders, he probably would've called Ned a hypocrite because Ned loves The Beatles!
@@melissacooper8724
Jeff would condemn Ned's opinion that the Beatles were bigger than Jesus.
Oh I remember the "DVR-Hell" of this movie. This should be considered the "Reefer Madness" of Christian movies. In that it completely misses the mark with its supposed message about the "evils of rock music", which there is no evil in rock music.
In my opinion it is. It has the same problems.
1. Misinformation
2. Bad acting
3. Scare propaganda
Problem is Reefer Madness is funny with how over the top and stupid it is
This is maddening and depressing. Mainly because we've all met a Jeff.
"His mom gets a call from everyone's wood-paneled living room" ah yes my favourite character from the 80's so rarely seen now😂
I love these films, because it 's those type of people I'd love to sit down and study. I'm a huge Metal head, wrestling fan, Horror fan, video games.. everything those folks call out being evil. They never talk about free will or loving everyone without judging others. You'll never hear, A kid talks to his Christian Mom, I saw Billy today he was listening to Heavy Metal, I thought it was scary, but he is a nice person. He doesn't do drugs. His Mom turns around with a joint in her Mom. Praise God, pass the Black Sabbath.
Reminds me of the song "Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition" which I point out because those lyrics are kinda hardcore for World War era jazz and yet we don't hear anyone complaining about that. Maybe they complained but it's nothing compared to the flak rock and roll got.
This is the Origin story of Jon Lithgows character in Footloose
I can't be the only one getting major 'Old Fashioned' vibes in the way this kid has become a total buzzkill.
The scene were Jeff throws a fit at the party because they put on rock music is *exactly* like the scene where Clay throws a fit during the bachelor party.
You're not. That scene and the scene where he gives Melissa an icy look while saying "we've discussed this" are eerily similar to Old-Fashioned. Both main characters believe they're better than everyone else while acting like obsessive creeps on so many occasions, you end up hating them both before the credits roll.
Jeff definitely grew up to be Clay. Just moved elsewhere to go live with his grandma or whatever and just decided to be a creep towards this poor woman.
YES. I'm so glad other people got that vibe too.
I feel like the two would get along great. Think of all the parties they could ruin before people stop inviting them anymore!
Jeff and Clay would've been perfect serial killers on episodes of True Detective.
@@crimsondynamo615 Jeff became Elliott Roger.
I would love it if the pastor gave him tapes of “ethnic” (because Jeff would totally call it that) music, like jazz, mariachi bands, Mongolian throat songs, and classic British Isles folk songs, or even sea shanties. That would’ve been hilarious!
🤣
They wouldn’t have allowed Jazz, if they were super old school they would say it’s devil music, mostly because of its association with black people. That’s how it was viewed by old school religious fundamentalists.
@@crimsondynamo615 Yeah, pretty much "anything with a drumbeat" is considered Satanic, for... reasons? I don't get it either.
Jeff seems like the kind of person who enjoys Alex jones unironically
No doubt most of the living people behind this piece of fearmongering propaganda are part of the MAGA/Q-Anon cult today.
jeff than grew up to change his name to greg locke.
Absolutely ridiculous. Alex Jones loves his rock and roll. He routinely uses Metallica and AC/DC songs as bumper music. Don't speak out of ignorance, friend.
@@RevLink Well, since you like Alex Jones so much, then that means you believe that the victims of Sandy Hook are alive and racism is a myth.
@@RevLink They're able to exempt themselves fairly whimsically.
"Jeff doesn't listen to rock music, therefore no one is allowed to listen."
As Bender would put it, "He just won't stop with the social commentary."
Also Bender:
I’m gonna set up my own religion with rock music and hookers and Black Jack!
This reminds me of when my parents and grandparents (who were hardcore Christians) had a talk with me about the music I listen to when I was a teenager. They were doing everything they can to put me off listening to metal, like saying they watched a documentary about cults and a bunch of other stuff, then my dad asked would I consider giving it up. Teenage me just scoffed and ignored it. A few months later my dad realised he was harsh on me apologized. This film would honestly be the sort of thing they would show me back then.
He's holding up Lyn Skyn's first album and says that the songs are all about sex or drugs. I wanted to test how far he had to stretch his mind to get there so here's the tracks:
I Ain't the One - he's right here. This one's about the singer telling a pregnant woman he wasn't the one who did it and thus he's leaving before she puts "a hook in" him."
Tuesday's Gone - no way is he right here. The title and the song are in no way dirty. It's just a breakup song. To stretch this one to being dirty you've just got to figure that the mention of women by men is suggestive.
Gimme Three Steps - eh, kinda. It's just a guy flirting with a girl when her boyfriend comes and threatens the singer with a gun, so he asks for three steps towards the door. Again, only "bad" if the idea of people being in bars and owning guns is offensive to God.
Simple Man - this is practically a christian song. Ronny Van Zant wrote this about his own mother's advice to him, which includes remembering "there's someone up above," and "be something you love and understand." To make this dirty, whew, I guess it does use the word lust when he says to "forget your lust for the rich man's gold."
Things Goin' On - this is a political song saying that then current events are bad, such as "too many lives spent across the ocean, too much money they spent up on the moon." The song does mention getting high, in the sense that it says that politicians don't care about people, "they just sit up there and just get high." So I guess it does mention drugs. Kinda missing the point calling this song out as bad.
Mississippi Kid - this is a 12 bar blues song about a kid from Mississippi going to Alabama to bring back "his woman" who ran there, threatening violence to anyone who gets in his way. Certainly this is a problematic song what with all of the violence it conjures up. I could see where this kid would call this a bad song, but it'd be interesting to hear this church's advice on whether the woman mentioned in this song should leave this clearly abusive relationship.
Poison Whiskey - really more a PSA than a dirty song. It's about drinking sure, but it talks about how whiskey (alcoholism by extension), will inevitably kill. This song is just about the singer remembering how they took his dad to a doctor and were told that "20 years of rotgut whiskey done killed this poor man dead." The final advice is "don't drink that poison whiskey, don't you drink it boy." The only way this is a somehow offensive song is if the mention of death or alcohol is offensive. Oh, it does mention Satan, in that it equates alcoholism to the work of Satan to kill people really slow. I don't see where this kid would disagree with the song.
Free Bird - man, you don't love this song you can stick your holiness right up your ass and fly out to purgatory where Saint Peter's gonna be rocking out to this song calling you a square.
Well, he didn't seem to know that Santana's "Soul Sacrifice" was an instrumental.
Simple Man can practically fall under Christian Rock. Like even I was saying “SERIOUSLY?!?! They have so many references about the one ‘up above’ lol”
You e basically just sold me on Lyn Skyn’s first album
@@sydneyslaughter7163 If you like the whole first album give the first five albums a listen. They've got some really great stuff.
*Lynard Skynard
Good Review. What gets me besides the fact that Jeff is a total jerk, is that he says that his Girlfriend, and Friends says are ashamed of him for being a Christian (which he is not acting like), despite that the fact that his Girlfriend & Friends are Christians.
When they say "Rock: It's Your Decision" they mean it's Jeff's decision because he is the main character. If he is attending a party and the people there are listening to rock, it's his decision whether they should be allowed to do that.
No.......they're not the RIGHT KIND of Christian
@@robotrix Jeff is a horrible person.
@@robotrix how Jack chick would describe them
@pentelegomenon1175 He had no right to dictate about what music should be played at the party because he wasn't the one hosting it!
I'm having DVD R Hell flashbacks here
Yeah, because Brad already reviewed this movie.
@@aussieman3021 I thought this was implied I knew this?
Ah yes, the movie that's a cautionary tale about how dedication to religion saps people of their individuality, makes them overly-moral assholes, and causes them to lose all their friends.
At least that's what I got from it.
I think that's what 99.5% of us got out of it. Only another fanatic would root for such a selfish, volatile creep of a main character.
Someone should basically remake this movie but shift the message to the dangers of fundamentalism.
But... But... Who needs friends when you can be friends with jesus
Jeff: "They were actually being controlled!"
Me, impersonating Jeff: "And only we're allowed to do that!"
@@noahbossier1131 Brad said in the old review that it might be a propaganda film on the flip side
What I can’t have any Rock? But the pioneers rode them all the time!
That's no boulder! *emotional sniffle* It's a rock! A big, beautiful old rock! Oh, the pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!
I'd be shocked if we somehow DIDN'T get jokes about Karen Richardson wanting demanding to see Snob's manager!
Don't be such a Richardson.
Damn, now I want a remake of my favorite DVD-R Hell, Deception of a Generation
Yesssss
Well, turns out Brad only listens to people on Reddit.
I tried telling him about Ron Ormond's The Grim Reaper in several UA-cam videos and he says he learned about it from Reddit.
and then Jeff grew up to be the second Estus Pirkle.
The Second Will-You-Coming of Estus Pirkle, even.
And voted for the cameo from Ghosts Can't Do It.
Estus Pirkle rises again to make his devoted followers bust a nut in the name of the Lord.
@@ginnrollins211 Wont you come. Wont you come.
@@Jakek200 Trust me, I already have.
Oh, the title is Rock: It's Your Decision. The way Brad said it, I always thought it was Rockets: Your Decision.
I still hear it that way.
Fireworks safety is a very important issue in today's troubled youth culture.
"Oh, god, I have to decide if I'm a Hakeem Olajuwon fan?!"
I doesn't seem like they want people to have a decision
Do you want anti rock, or anti Soviets?
Jeff: he'll ain't a bad place to be! Pastor: it's about a gold digger...
*Hell
A saying that used to, and likely still does, exist in many Christian institutions is "Dancing makes babies". I wonder if they got some of their ideas from the final speech of this movie.
Dancing makes babies???
WTF, MY MOM SAID IT WAS A STORK!!
Sounds ironic because I thought they want people to make babies.
@@candydemure The more babies, the more to bring into the church for indoctrination (which is against the International Convention on the Rights of the Child)
@@wjzav1971 this made me laugh
"Dancing makes babies?" Wait a minute; I thought they WANT us to be fruitful and multiply.
Does Rock: It's Your Decision still hold up to Salò and a Serbian Film, Herr Jones?
Ah, this takes me back. When I went to the cinema snob website every week for midnight screenings and state fair reviews and … uh… the one former member of brads team who at the time was a fan favorite but is not spoken of now…
And 80s Dan
Damn you Kung Tai Ted!
Bootlegger Bill the DVD Pirate?
Who was a fan favorite?
Spoony?
The CBN logo was way more metal and awesome than the Pureflix logo!
I love how Rock n’ Roll was deemed evil, but not rape, murder, drugs etc. No, it’s that evil rock music.
Absolutely no one would even know about murder if it wasn't for rock. Especially murderers!
@@howiegruwitz3173 - Yup!
Rape? When was that evil from a biblical standpoint? Other than as property damages.
@@UlshaRS It was evil if it was done to your property without your permission. Remember, Lot from Sodom was the one good guy in the city despite offering his virgin daughters up to the mob.
Thank God video games weren't mentioned.
I commend you for being able to review something twice and still keep the jokes and old as fuck references fresh. Props.
This is literally still going on with all the people losing their shit over Lil Nas X and Cardi B.
While listening to Nugent and Kid Rock. Sounds about white. Not that I like X and B since I don't like their music anyways. I'll stick with classic "piss off Tipper Gore" Prince thank you very much.
Conservatives heads would literally explode if you say then down and showed them the Montero video.
"Hell ain't a bad place to be..."
Well, the Hazbin Hotel fandom might agree with that...
Either that or working at I.M.P in Helluva boss.
Hey, at least that Hell's got a way out.
Not like, "oh, the back door's that way, Goku", I mean, and ACTUAL way to make progress and become a better person.
I was a teen-ager when this came out, though I didn't see it back then. Also had various attempts at becoming a Christian around that time, so, in a way, this reminds me of that time, and that interpretation of Christianity, which is really is an American form of Protestantism, that was around at the time, along with Christian comic books, including Jack T. Chick's little ones, and other media like that. Fortunately, I never got into it as deeply as Jeff does here, and have been a secularist for a few decades now. This could be used to show, even if entirely counter to its producers' purposes, how and why one can become a fanatic, because that's what Jeff turns into here.
I wasn't even born when it was made! 1982, so 13 years before. Which, by the way, is no excuse for the quality. The Secret of NIMH, The Thing, ET, Rambo First Blood, Tron, Conan, The Dark Crystal! All examples of much better films released in the exact same year! How can they claim our lifestlye is sinful when they don't have the generosity to invest in a better sound recording device?
That Elvis joke was perfectly written and executed. You got a genuine snort out of me. So glad that you’re back!
This movie needs a sequel where Jeff inspires the formation of Stryper.
The mall that the music store scene was shot in was located in Huntsville and just called "The Mall". It was dying even then and torn down about 15-20 years ago. Perfect metaphor for this film.
I read this on a random Amazon review so it can be taken with a grain of salt, but according to it, the actor who played Jeff thought this movie was the stupidest thing he'd ever heard of and only did it because it was a good paycheck
If true, then good on him, I think.
I showed Brad's dvd r hell video to someone, they ended up agreeing with Jeff. Needless to say, I don't like to converse with this person anymore.
That’s incredible lol. You’ve gotta be pretty far gone to think Jeff is the good guy here.
Had a similar situation happen
I would love to see a version of this where, instead of turning into the most insufferable little pissant in human history, Jeff turns on a Megadeth song, and his mother's head just explodes.
Or even better, he puts on Cry Out For A Hero and she goes full Blue Screen of Death
Because Fist of the North Star has a FUCKTON of Christian allegories
I once dated a guy who went all "no secular music" long enough to give away my Metallica tickets. He was back to his senses the very next day.
What, gave away YOUR Metallica tickets? As in, screwed you out of seeing Metallica? I like to call that "Earning a lead pipe upside the brain."
Liar they were Creed tickets
@@patjacksonpodium but wait....there's more....he stole my brand new Ibanez guitar, hardshell case and amp, and pawned them for smoke money
@@howiegruwitz3173 ha ha, NEVER!
@@carrieorsel1340 he might not have actually "given away" the tickets, if he pawned your guitar and amp
14:50 "Jeff doesn't listen to rock music, therefore NO ONE is allowed to listen."
Cinema Snob accidentally summarized all of modern-day evangelical Christianity.
To be honest that could summarise all of the wokeism nowadays too.
> Christian claims people have told him the lyrics aren't that important as long as the music has rhythm
proceed
> Then Christian proceeds to show how he doesn't even know or understand the lyrics, cause the _meaning isn't important?_
> ...
> Jesus, Bro!
"this is clearly s@t@n1c"
the lyrics: i'm happy to be in loooooooooooooooooooooove yes in looooooooooooooooooooooooooove!
"pure ev1l............THEY AREN'T MENTIONING JESUS EVERY 2 SECONDS!"
@@ddjsoyenby christian song lyrics: I cant wait to marry jesus and kiss him on the lips (it aint gay)
I’m pretty sure Jesus knew how to have a good time considering that he once went to a wedding were he turned water into wine.
The fundamentalist view of rock music is frankly baffling; the text basically doesn't support any aspect of it, a true testament to their hypocrisy
Good to see you again Cinema Snob. Hope things are going well for you.
"Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be..." Well, as long as Hell has Queen's songs in it, I think I'd agree. Also, that song is comparing a bad girl to a demon and their relationship to be Hell on Earth, not literal Hell. You also had "Let there be Rock" by the same artist. What's wrong with that title?
That wasn’t a speech, it was a public mental breakdown.
Hell is watching Rock it's Your Decision on a continuous loop with directors commentary
I can't believe I kept passing by this review. I kept thinking it was just the dvd-r hell episode reuploaded!
Moral of the story?
Tell Jeff to wear headphones
“And who could forget ‘Take My Hand’ by Dewey Cox?” - Jeff
5:43 😂comedy gold I’m working at a church I busted out laughing
I flat out broke at the Barry Manilow GG Allin comparison.
Pure snob genius that😂
I wonder if there was an extended ending.
In which Jeff climbs a bell tower and shoots anyone on the street who happens to have a rock 'n roll record in their hand.
I would've loved to see that!
Well, at least we finally got an orgin story for Clay Walsh from Old Fashioned. 😅
I wonder if the creator of Batman:Fortunate Son was a fan of this film.
Punk is nothing but death, and crime, and the raaaaage of a beast!
What? Rock n Roll is Batman's greatest nemesis!
I doubt that since they are fans of Rock & Roll.
However, this makes the comic even worse since their tribute to Rock & Roll is the equivalent of Madonna taking about herself during Aretha Franklin's tribute.
A botched, attempt towards sympathy.
@@DrZuluGaming yeah I heard that I was like ' Really? Sure didn't seem that way to me."
I wonder if that same writer has heard of batman's epic event DARK KNIGHTS METAL
6:17 “Illicit sex, drugs, mocking God, the occult, all things often found in rock music.”
Yes, of course, the song “God Gave Rock And Roll To You” is really about the occult and drugs. It’s quite obvious.
I love how the most replayed part of this is that charming going-to-commercial jingle. I guess they work!
If you say the title fast, it sounds like “Rockets: Your Decision”. As in, it’s my decision to shoot this movie with a rocket.
A ton of your old videos are gone off the compilations on yt, would you reupload them or are they gone forever? Miss the old reviews
Tobe Fair, "I dont like this so no one else should like it" is the motto of the internet these days so Jeff was really just ahead of the curve.
Yet, about a decade later, The Rolling Stones' Start Me Up would be used to promote Windows 95...
jeff is so far in the closet that he probably has a bed in there AND uses his shoe as a toilet. please jeff, its starting to smell!
Damn it, Jeff! Empty your shittin' cup!! 😉😉
Jeff is so far in the closet that he's in Narnia.
He's so far in the closet the boogeyman is charging him rent.
I agree, it explains three things: the self-loathing "What's wrong with me?" inner monologue at the start, and his out-of-nowhere bashing on homosexuals without giving any follow-up. Finally, he has less-than-zero chemistry with his girlfriend and seems more irritated by her than anything else.
Jeff's so deep in the closet, he's finding Christmas presents.
Does this mean we'll get a snob episode of Too Smart for Strangers in the future?
When my dad became a Christian he destroyed all his Beatles and Rolling Stones records because he believed they were "evil." At least now he acknowledges that was pretty stupid, especially because original pressings of those records are worth a decent amount now.
It was dumb of your dad to do that because there was nothing wrong with The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. The Beatles songs were mostly about peace and love. As for The Rolling Stones? Their song Sympathy For The Devil was a song from the Devil's POV.
Grew up as a Jehovahs Witness and this is giving me flashbacks, ugh.
Wonder how Jeff would react if the same guy who triggered Tipper Gore with a song about Nikki ended up a JW.
Imagine if Jeff got ahold of something like Slayer or Amon Amarth. He'd shit his damn pants
Someone should take him to a Gwar show
You wouldn't even need to go that far, just show them Ghost and they'd break
In my memory, the first video is a Cinema Snob episode. So I guess this is reality conforming to my faulty memory.
It's my decision? Well...
I WANNA ROCK!!!
ROCK!
He should just listen to Stryper. It would solve the whole plot.
I LOVE how Jeff's voice breaks when he yells out "Do You Think I'm Sexy".
Still not over puberty, Jeff?
This was my youth. Seriously both my parents thought all music was evil
this is one of the most cringe things I've ever seen, was this REALLY made totally unironically? I mean, I know we all like to mock fundamentalist Christians for their general lack of intelligence, but I honestly can't see this being written by anyone other than a complete idiot. It's like a World War 2 movie that makes Hitler look like an awesome guy (not in a Jojo Rabbit kind of way, like if they did Heil Honey I'm Home as a serious drama)
I would love to see Jeff react to WAP and Montero.
And then he becomes head of a lynch mob and kills his own mother for liking soap operas, thus completing the Frankenstein analogy with the mother being killed by the monster she had created. No need to worry, Jeff was later killed by the protagonist of Far Cry 5.
"a real good get-down beat" I'm hep with the young people's lingo!
For anybody interested, the "devils and demons" song is called Lady of Lies, and is from a movie called the Devil's Men, which is about Donald Pleasence taking down a Satanic cult.
I had to watch this in school. In the 90s.
Amen
You poor soul. Hopefully, none of that nonsense was engrained into you.
WTF?!?! Did you go to a religious school?
@@Kylea1979 despite living in a house of non believers yes. And it was full of hilarious out of date media pretending that it was still relevant. I'm sure that's part of why I'm not religious.
We even had the S. Perkle films, you know- topical to 1994 right?
0:34 *adjusts glasses* I'm sorry. I believe that is "Olives Film Productions IS Presents".
I remember that CBN logo. I enjoyed this redux. Snob sounds way less angry this time around and more just laughing at the insanity
Ironically this movie is produced in the Deep South, the birthplace of Rock and Roll.
I wish someone had produced some tickets that said "The Rock Concert".
Finally! I would sometimes hear you talk about it during Midnight Screenings, but never actually saw it covered
I loved your original upload of the video. It was great seeing this revisited.
Snob is always at his best when he reviews Christian panic "movies". Also, what if this *is* about coming out of the closet?
I just like that they name dropped a great Jefferson Starship deep cut, Devil's Den. Devil's Den lyrics have nothing to do with Satanism, they're about politicians, royalty and money worship.
All things that are worshiped by Fundamentalist. How ironic
I like the original version better and particularly love how you tackle his surface level examples. Also, once again you miss the opportunity to point out one of his choices is an instrumental (“Soul Sacrifice”).
I'm sure the movie makers didn't even realize that. They would have had to listen to it first.
Isn’t that the whole point about Brad tearing into his examples?
You know you gotta watch Test of Faith now, do you.
Can't wait for all the comparisons with Kevin Sorbo.
musical march in september in august? sign me up
also love the new grandpa glasses snob
Jeff is like a christian version of these people we have today that thinks everything is ”problematic”.
"the christian version" is the original version. puritans gonna puritan.
It remind me when I heard that Kirk Cameron said that Star wars was promoting Buddhist propaganda.
"Problematic" (quote marks and all) is the same as "controversial". You use it to say you dislike/disapprove of something but don't know why.
@@Vanreis I love the word problematic, meaning it's not quite a problem yet but we should probably do something about it, I wish it wasn't consigned to such a narrow viewpoint.
Two sides of the same coin. They're both about alarmist authoritarians forcing their own beliefs onto other people.