The goon fills in the TVL178 Record of Interview form. The top copy is left (or should be) with the occupier who was interviewed; the carbon counterfoil is retained by the goon. Completed 178 forms are the basis of EVERY TV Licensing prosecution. The date the set was installed IS relevant. Legally a set can only be installed if covered by a valid TV licence. The definition of installed is given in the legislation - the Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 if memory serves.
What if your using your tv as a monitor like i do,it can't receive a signal its connected to my main frame computer no aerial but if i took it down stairs im sure the free view aerial still works but nothing is connected, so your saying i can't owen that tv/ monitor without a licence I'm not sure that's Wright, the act comes into force if you watch live tv not owning a tv.
Hi TVlicencing blog - I've checked the regulations. The definition of the words “television receiver” imply that the set is only installed if it has been tuned in to channels received via satellite or aerial, or to access iplayer. This would not cover usage of the TV as a monitor or for internet use excluding iplayer. See part 3 section 9. If you're using the set legally, the answer to the question on the form is n/a - set not installed.
Proud of my wife. Today we had our first goon visit. Dressed in a stab vest and posing as some kind of official. Asked for me. Wife asked him who he was. Asked if she was my wife. Asked him again what his name was. Eventually he admitted he was a goon. Wife “no thank you” and shuts the door. Your lesson well taken, thank you.
Keep it polite and simple she did both the only way in is with a warrant and the court will need strong evidence or the police could knock down any door they feel like.
We got a visit 2 weeks ago - I just said 'we don't need one' and the old gent walked off. My partner was about to engage in a conversation with goon who was at the door when I overheard what was being said, and interjected! She's too polite for her own good sometimes :-)
They said they wouldn't visit during COVID. I am laughing so hard right now. I'm partially deaf(completely deaf if the sound is from a different room or floor). I don't wear hearing aids at home and due to insomnia I've slept through the day and worked at night. They must be knocking away! :)
Just cancelled mine. Got £79 coming back, luverly. It's not just the 500000 licence fees they have recently lost, but also all the money they have had to refund. love it.
I've had the warning.. I've had the letter with the same code on.. They sending one out to me and I can't wait to shut the door in his face. My wife had to pay 500 quid 2 years ago for getting prosicuted... No more my friend. Your channel has helped a lot... Bring on the goon
@@leeenglandland2978 I also have an intercom and I can switch it off if wanted. I only switch it on and answer the door if I'm actually expecting someone.
It should be completely outlawed this kind of behaviour. Goon visits should be banned and the hideous TV licence scrapped permanently. The sooner we all, and I do mean ALL, of us stop paying the better.
Australia had a TV licence, for ABC, until it was scrapped in 1974. Since then it's been 'Government Funded' and takes advertising. But, the ABC seems to be on a mouthpiece par there with the BBC here. Riddled with the Left.
Literally 5 mins ago had a tv licence guy turn up, I said I don’t watch tv 3 times. He then kept trying to trick me asking” how long have you been watching live tv for?” He must of said that question 5 times. Just be aware, I should of just shut the door straight away.
Anyone could knock up one of those forms, and get into the properties of the elderly, or the vulnerable. A quick flash of a photo driving license would fool a lot of people who are intimidated by them. producing a form like that should be illegal.
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Hi Jon. I've watched your shows for about 3 months. I've finally cancelled my licence as I only watch Netflix, Nowtv, Prime and play computer games. I'm 67 years old and I was really nervous about doing it but now I've done it I feel like I've struck a blow for a valid cause. Thanks for all the information. I'm really grateful. ♥ Gill
I think you will find that form is no longer used, its from the time when just having a working TV without a current license was illegal, that's why all the strange questions.
National Insurance Number it's called the PPSN over here in Ireland... Never ever disclose that to anyone.. The only people that have that number is: Social Welfare, Revenue and your employer..
The more details they have of you, the more damage they can do if there was some dodgy goon that works for them that has access to your details, and also there is no guarantee that the people who knocks on peoples doors is actually a goon from the BBC / TVL could be anyone posing as a BBC / TVL Goon so they can get peoples details to commit ID Theft It is easy for anyone to create fake ID's and paperwork that the BBC / TVL use When any goon comes knocking on my door I always tell them to go forth and multiply (just not in those exact words lol) and I NEVER ever give them any details, not even my name (same goes for anyone else that knocks on my door who I do not know) The ONLY people who need National Insurance number is Your work and / or the Government NEVER give it to anyone else
These tv licence people are collecting people information from the housing association people to hack people money by force, they will take your assurance number, sometimes pretending to be working on behalf of the housing association to do work in your house, gas and electricity check, roof repair if there is asbestos, etc,,,,,,people becarfull, there are many strategies now to enter people housing, be prudent about these tv licence people on these days,,,,,,,,,,
The section regarding the caution is made to sound very legal and officially 🤣. Where you said that they might be wearing a anti stabbing jacket, I believe that they are wearing them to be more threatening than they are
Since when can a salesperson give a caution, although I give a caution it's stuck to my front door it say's "warning venomous reptiles on premises, if you get bitten you will die as you have NOT been invited in I do have anti venom but only for friends and family" no-ones ever knocked at my door
Any person or company can read you your rights and give you a caution...You can do it....I can do it (though why we would is questionable) In the case of Capita they do it and operate under the rules of PACE to give them credibility......as I said...read up on it and start doing it to your friends if you are crazy enough......have a PACE party where you all caution each other.
I have mentioned before about a partially sighted neighbour being visited by an "inspector" from Capita. The conversation was short he said who he was asked to come in. She told him no he'd have to come back when her daughter was there. He said "No problem call the number on this form to arrange that. Could you please give me a signature so my boss will know I have visited you" She took the door chain off he has to put the pen in her hand into the signature box before she signed. He gave her a carbon copy where he had circled YES to the question "Do you watch live TV" She did not have a TV. Back then it was a smaller form. This tells you the type of person you are dealing with AND the lengths some of them will go to in order to get you to pay for a licence! They are paid a basic salary and get a % of the fee for each licence they "sell" as a bonus so they are incentivised to sell more licences! The form and questions are there to intimidate and trick you into answering questions. They are not police, emergency services, HM Customs and.... They have no right to enter your home unless you give them permission. OR If they have a warrant! Do not give them permission. Do not answer any questions they ask. Do not sign anything. Ask them politely to leave and not come back. You can do this through a closed front door or with the door on a security chain!
They do not have the right to enter even if they have a warrant...this particular Capita warrant only gives them the right to ASK you to allow them to enter.
@@Pinzpilot101 The warrants come on application from the Magistrates Court they don't issue Capita Warrants. Capita have a policy NOT to force entry but they usually turn up with a warrant and police. If you don't answer the door they won't force entry. If you do they will show you the warrant and explain they have the right to enter. I recently watched a You Tube video where they turned up at a house with a warrant and police. Police explained "allow them in or be arrested for obstruction and the house would be searched anyway" They asked him to turn on the TV he refused. The goons got the remote turned on the set tried to get a signal. Tried to fire up a streaming stick and couldn't. Started asking the householder questions from the interview form. He didn't answer. They threatend him with arrest for "obstruction". They read him the PACE caution. He said "You are not police. You have no powers of arrest. If these officers want to arrest me I'll go with them be interviewed under caution with my Solicitor present. He asked the officers who were observing everything "Are you going to arrest me?" One replied "No" the other tried hard not to piss himself laughing at the two "plastic policemen" from Capita. Search over they left telling him "we will report you for obstruction. He refused to sign their form! I think there's more than one video of visits with a warrant. Check them out.
@@stevew3196 We have all seen this video....He knew what he was doing...he was not 'done' for obstruction because he did not obstruct, he just gave them rope to hang themselves with. The reason I call them Crapita Warrants is that they are ONLY used by Crapita...they are never ever used by any other organisation...They are Proformas, signed maybe months in advance by a JP and photocopied off with details written in. A REAL warrant will be newly typed and signed by a judge the ink will literally still be wet....these are distinctly different and used by the Police. ANYONE even you can read the PACE caution to anyone TESCO could do it if they so wished......Crapita only do it to give their salesmen some credibility, which being mere salesmen, they do not have in any measure.
Got my first visit last week, the one benefit of living in a 3 storey house is that when the door bell rung, I just popped my head out of the window and said "hello" (I suspected he was a goon!) "TV licensing", "NOT INTERESTED MATE". Window closed-he didn't hang around! 👍
Hang about, that caution is the same as what an arresting Police officer would say when arresting someone. They're delusional, they actually think they are the Police. Eff em. TFS & take care everybody. ♥️🙂🐶
Hi Jon ,not surprised.I can’t hate them anymore than I already do.Maybe their head quarters could be made into affordable housing for first time buyers struggling with renting.
If you've got kids in the house ask the goon for thier current CRB check. To prove they don't have convictions, none will have one and all do walk away. Works every time even if you don't have kids ask them for their CRB check as your vulnerable.
Only reason I could imagine they would want a NI number would be check if the house holder is getting pensions credits aka free licence would then be awarded. Otherwise it’s information they do not need to collect some how fair use comes to mind.
I have replied to their letter that advised me my property is under investigation. I warned them that, if they contacted me again, I would make a formal complaint to the police of stalking and malicious communication and that I would sue any "inspector" for trespass in the event that one of them set foot on my property.
I asked him to talk to me off my property...away from the porch - in pouring rain, he gave the whole lecture and and I just gave him the "not relevant" or "I do not disclose this information" response...took about 4 minutes and he walked off. I wished him a nice day but almost felt sorry...you must be really desperate to do a job like that... ;-)
I have had no television for 9 years but was told they might still check to see whether I need a licence. Haven't had a visit yet but I can't wait to get one so that I can tell them where to go!
Just had my 77 year old nan trying to me over one of these threatening letters. Bearing in Just showed her channel and a few of you videos took the weight right off her shoulders and she won't be paying for one ever again! Keep up the good work 👍
If they have visited after a removal if implied right if access, or if you have a no cold callers sign on your door they may be breaking the law. They can be sued and the police could be called if they refuse to leave or come the c___.
I have cancelled my DD payments for a licence and they sent me a letter to tell me I had that ny DD has been cancelled, I'm thinking, yes I know I cancelled it. Sit back and wait for the circus to begin.
There is a reason they ask a written phrase. The word understand, in this instance, does not mean do you comprehend. It is a legal word that means you freely give the person using it control over you.
There was a TVL goon at the door today. I can see from upstairs who is ringing my doorbell. I ignored it and he went away. TV Licensing is not a registered company at companies house. 'Do you understand' means 'do you stand under me' no is the correct answer. But ignore them anyway.
Great work, if you won’t cancel your license after watching this channel’s plentiful and informative videos, then there is no hope for you. Ditch the license!
We’ve signed the online declaration and subsequently had 8 letters and one visit since January. If they were an ex. they’d be arrested for stalking by now. If they come again and try to caution me, I shall just keep saying ‘nope, don’t understand. No, still not getting it.’ It would be interesting to see how long they can go on for 🤣
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I had a TV licensing goon turn up at my mums house years ago while I was visiting, but she was not in, having popped out to the shops. The guy stood their and asked if he could come in and I said no, it isn't my property and told him she was not in. He then started asking me questions, to which I said either no or don't know to, he then handed me this document, and asked me to sign it, but I saw he had ticked yes to a bunch of the questions, so I said no, I ain't signing that and he went off. A month later I had a court sommuns for TV licensing, and I had to go there, and I was drilled by some prosicuter for 10 minutes, when I showed them evidence that I do not live there, she asked, 'But Martyn, why did you sighn the paper?' I asked to see the signature, and when they tried to show me, they found It was not signed after all, and that was the end of that. Admittedly, I should have just shut the door on him, but I was younger then, and I thought it would be better to get rid of him by telling him she didn't have a TV. Didn't know he would ever try to trick me, or that I would end up in court.
Obviously they were pinning their hopes on a favourable judge overlooking the fact that the document was unsigned. I bet whoever decided to prosecute no longer works there.
I seriously think anyone getting hold of your national insurance number could be in serious trouble with the law. This is one thing you should never give to anyone other than a verified government department.
Do you remember when plasma TVs were new and you needed a second mortgage to buy one? I was purchasing one in Currys, and right when I had paid my near three grand the pimple-faced lad said he needed my details for TV licencing purposes, I told him to fuck right off and carry my TV to the car, he just said 'yes sir' and that was that. I don't think he wanted to lose his commission on that one.
They should be locked up for intimidation. I cancelled my TV licence 3 years ago still waiting for a visit. I wish they would make my day by knocking on my door.
I believe they are breaching G.D.P.R. guidelines too. They should only request information they need for the task at hand and, then, remove it thereafter
Most of these goons, anyway, do not understand the intricacies of G.D.P.R. and would shit themselves if confronted. Take their names and threaten them on your doorstep
if the bbc were realy that concerned about people watching the content for free then maybe they should encrypt it like they do with sky movies and sports this way if you want to watch the bbc you can get a decryption device and watch it. This way it would leave you just the free channels to watch without ever breaking the "law".
I suggest, having the powers of just about any person, these goons have no appropriate authority to properly issue this legal caution. So many jumped up people seem to be doing this nowadays, I suggest that only if it is used by an appropriate person, eg Proper Police Officer, Customs Officer etc, it actually legally means anything. Also, I suggest, regardless of the person, appropriate authority or not, NEVER EVER say that you "understand". People think this is a comprehension issue, but I suggest in legal matters, saying that you "understand" means that you accept authority from the other person and agree to abide by it. I suggest to this day, this is why police will always say "Do You understand" ie "Submit to my authority". As many people have suggested, the BBC seem to be using "jumped up" companies with "jumped up" people using "jumped up" tactics that would probably put most other companies in jail.
Never tell people details they claim to be able to get. This applies to tvl with their detector vans and people who phone you to tell you about an accident you've had. Ask them when you had the accident and ask them what channels you've been watching.
ah I see how they get you "when did you first use the set at this address without an appropriate licence" obviously you'll just answer the day you moved in or the day you bought it when you should say "well I haven't, I have only used it within the perimeters of not having a licence so not watching anything live" Very cheeky
GDPR.. comes to mind since when are we required to give NI number to some goon off the street. That level of personal information they want to gather is a direct misconduct and total disregard of GDPR.
Jon are you considering doing something similar for the "court officers/ warrant officers*/bailiffs"? *When I was in the army warrant officer was a rank so I would ask about their service to baffle them. They are not court officials nor bailiffs but a private debt collection firm. They have the same MO as these goons.
It amazes me in today's big brother world we live in... how TV Licensing aka the "BBC" cannot tell if you watch TV or not. Where's this detector van they always spoke of in yester-year? I have never seen one. And I have not owned a TV since 2013. Yet they still write to me wanting to enter my home to "SEE" if I have a TV or not. So I ask them - "Send one of your detector vans down my road" - lonnnnngggggg silence.
Thank you for your videos I have cancelled my tv licence and shared your videos with family and friends also on social media fingers crossed we can get more to cancel x
Cancelled through the correct channel via phone call 2 months ago. Today I've had a letter saying I've got ten days to relicence or they are a comin. Come then and have the door slammed in your face. I laughed me bollocks off.
Totally correct and never answer no, which creates controversy which courts can adjudicate on. Asking a question avoids controversy (therefore nothing for a court to adjudicate on) and asking them: "Am I obliged to understand?" throws them and the police BTW, for a complete loop.
Chillijoncarne, I am 83yr and have just received a letter from TV licensing with the headline ..... ; Please Act Now, Before Your Licence is cancelled. It goes on about covering my licence till August 31, at no time does this letter threatened me with any enforcement Goons visits, fines or prosecutions etc. The only threat is them to cancel my licence, well not having a contract with them I have nothing to cancel. My licence was FREE and I have no intention of entering into another contract with them so they can go whistle. I neither want or need a TV licence therefore I don't require a contract with BBC.
In my drawer I have a tv licence which is dated 2001. I will hand that to the goon when he turns up, and when he says to me, "This is twenty years out of date", I will reply, "So are the damned programmes!" It's true, I really do have my old licence from 2001. 😂
The goon fills in the TVL178 Record of Interview form. The top copy is left (or should be) with the occupier who was interviewed; the carbon counterfoil is retained by the goon. Completed 178 forms are the basis of EVERY TV Licensing prosecution. The date the set was installed IS relevant. Legally a set can only be installed if covered by a valid TV licence. The definition of installed is given in the legislation - the Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 if memory serves.
Pinned. Thank you
What if your using your tv as a monitor like i do,it can't receive a signal its connected to my main frame computer no aerial but if i took it down stairs im sure the free view aerial still works but nothing is connected, so your saying i can't owen that tv/ monitor without a licence I'm not sure that's Wright, the act comes into force if you watch live tv not owning a tv.
@@668725course it's not right. The regulation referred to is just an act. I'm afraid that this is not comprehended here.
@@Euphoftoday Andy we concur, a bad act should be ignored, lord i think sumption is right.
Hi TVlicencing blog - I've checked the regulations. The definition of the words “television receiver” imply that the set is only installed if it has been tuned in to channels received via satellite or aerial, or to access iplayer. This would not cover usage of the TV as a monitor or for internet use excluding iplayer. See part 3 section 9. If you're using the set legally, the answer to the question on the form is n/a - set not installed.
Proud of my wife. Today we had our first goon visit. Dressed in a stab vest and posing as some kind of official. Asked for me. Wife asked him who he was. Asked if she was my wife. Asked him again what his name was. Eventually he admitted he was a goon. Wife “no thank you” and shuts the door. Your lesson well taken, thank you.
Good on her!
Keep it polite and simple she did both the only way in is with a warrant and the court will need strong evidence or the police could knock down any door they feel like.
This is something to keep in mind if and when the goons come knocking at my door.
I did the same yesterday. My second visit in 5 weeks. They must be getting desperate!
She's a keeper ;)
Just had a visit this morning. She said ' I'm from TV licencing'. I replied ' not interested thank you.' She said ok and walked off.
YOU FORGOT TO tell her: trot along will ya.
We got a visit 2 weeks ago - I just said 'we don't need one' and the old gent walked off. My partner was about to engage in a conversation with goon who was at the door when I overheard what was being said, and interjected! She's too polite for her own good sometimes :-)
They said they wouldn't visit during COVID. I am laughing so hard right now. I'm partially deaf(completely deaf if the sound is from a different room or floor). I don't wear hearing aids at home and due to insomnia I've slept through the day and worked at night. They must be knocking away! :)
" I'm from TV licencing " - response " You have my sympathy ".
@@Steeps1969o
Just cancelled mine. Got £79 coming back, luverly. It's not just the 500000 licence fees they have recently lost, but also all the money they have had to refund. love it.
I cancelled mine a couple of months ago and got a refund. Now they're hounding me about not having a TV licence. Idiots
I not paid five yrs saved £750 spent on food and heating.dont need food bank now.ha
Cancelled mine on 10th Jan 2021, I made a 2 year declaration and haven't heard a word from them. If they turn up I will politely tell them to go away.
@@iggysfriend4431 same plan as me
try 7 years and saving over a thousand lol
If any other firm did that they would finish up in court.
Why the hell does the government support this.
because it supports the bbc propaganda network.
because there all init together.
because the government are criminals, same as the BBC.
Your spot on mate
🇬🇧Because UK Government & BBC seem to be in cahoots!
Well, you've broken the 40k barrier. Well done, sir!
I've had the warning.. I've had the letter with the same code on.. They sending one out to me and I can't wait to shut the door in his face. My wife had to pay 500 quid 2 years ago for getting prosicuted... No more my friend. Your channel has helped a lot... Bring on the goon
How to deal with the Capita goons in a short poem:
Slam The Door And
Say No More!
Ta-daaah!
How I deal with them - don't answer the door, shred any letters.
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I now have a intercom so I don't even have to open the door to say "no thank you" or even better " I don't accept cold callers"
@@leeenglandland2978 I also have an intercom and I can switch it off if wanted. I only switch it on and answer the door if I'm actually expecting someone.
lol I always tell them to go forth and multiply just not in those exact words
It's only missing the mothers maiden name section and you've got the perfect form for ID theft.
good point, and data capture
What about the Question: Do you have any children under thirteen years old? Yes/No
If Yes, they will be invited to the BBC for a hands on experience.
Just imagine the inspectors signature - p.d.file
Hands on with a bunch of BBC pedophiles
Ouch ! Comment below par for form ! Also below the belt 😁😁😁
This questionnaire only to be served in councils with two or more catholic churches! 😅
Yes Kid's come and meet Jimmy Saville
They need a new tick box at the top now: "Door closed by resident - No interview possible"
Also "resident set dog on me. Bitten on knob. Hospital fees required."
It should be completely outlawed this kind of behaviour. Goon visits should be banned and the hideous TV licence scrapped permanently. The sooner we all, and I do mean ALL, of us stop paying the better.
Australia had a TV licence, for ABC, until it was scrapped in 1974. Since then it's been 'Government Funded' and takes advertising. But, the ABC seems to be on a mouthpiece par there with the BBC here. Riddled with the Left.
It'll just change to general taxation.
Then we all pay fully.
Literally 5 mins ago had a tv licence guy turn up, I said I don’t watch tv 3 times. He then kept trying to trick me asking” how long have you been watching live tv for?” He must of said that question 5 times. Just be aware, I should of just shut the door straight away.
@Steve Gee should I be worried or not 😂😂
He’s desperate for his 20 quid commission 💴
Trying to trip you up. Answer the live TV bit and you've more or less admitted committing an offence !
Anyone could knock up one of those forms, and get into the properties of the elderly, or the vulnerable.
A quick flash of a photo driving license would fool a lot of people who are intimidated by them.
producing a form like that should be illegal.
I owe you so much. You really are the Robin Hood of youtube. Now I dont dread visits from the licence inspectors anymore. Thank you so much for helping others deal with this ❤
Do not interact with the inspectors or admit to anything. Simple. That is the recipe.
without a lawyer present its totally inadmissible
This form is very similar to a police record of interview - deliberate attempt at intimidation.
Exactly. It's a scare tactic - meant to make you feel like a criminal and cave in to buying a licence.
I'm glad Jon found this useful as I found it on the internet and sent it into him - there are codes of practice that are available as well
Aww, we were thinking that we had a man on the inside. Cheers though.
Code of practice reads get as much money from as many people you can by any means.
Well done Keith for the heads up. I’m waiting for my goon visit now!!!!
@@Annomous-58 glad this has proved useful (via Jon)
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My kid's occasional watch you ( they thing you're a funny man )
Hi Jon. I've watched your shows for about 3 months. I've finally cancelled my licence as I only watch Netflix, Nowtv,
Prime and play computer games. I'm 67 years old and I was really nervous about doing it but now I've done it I feel like I've struck a blow for a valid cause. Thanks for all the information. I'm really grateful. ♥ Gill
one of the best you've done, really gives perspective
that form should be passed on to the Information commissioner, it breaks GDPR, the right to privacy and family life
I think you will find that form is no longer used, its from the time when just having a working TV without a current license was illegal, that's why all the strange questions.
National Insurance Number it's called the PPSN over here in Ireland... Never ever disclose that to anyone.. The only people that have that number is: Social Welfare, Revenue and your employer..
Surely it's a criminal offence to collect "national Insurance" numbers, when they have no legal reason to need them ???????.
Its an old form from before the data protection act.
because they are criminals, bingo!
The more details they have of you, the more damage they can do if there was some dodgy goon that works for them that has access to your details, and also there is no guarantee that the people who knocks on peoples doors is actually a goon from the BBC / TVL could be anyone posing as a BBC / TVL Goon so they can get peoples details to commit ID Theft
It is easy for anyone to create fake ID's and paperwork that the BBC / TVL use
When any goon comes knocking on my door I always tell them to go forth and multiply (just not in those exact words lol) and I NEVER ever give them any details, not even my name (same goes for anyone else that knocks on my door who I do not know)
The ONLY people who need National Insurance number is Your work and / or the Government NEVER give it to anyone else
These goos are probably selling the information, don't ever let them in!
These tv licence people are collecting people information from the housing association people to hack people money by force, they will take your assurance number, sometimes pretending to be working on behalf of the housing association to do work in your house, gas and electricity check, roof repair if there is asbestos, etc,,,,,,people becarfull, there are many strategies now to enter people housing, be prudent about these tv licence people on these days,,,,,,,,,,
The section regarding the caution is made to sound very legal and officially 🤣. Where you said that they might be wearing a anti stabbing jacket, I believe that they are wearing them to be more threatening than they are
The caution is identical to what the police say.........
These idiots believe they have the same authority as the Police. Yeah right!
They might as well wear a curly wig, big red nose, and size 22 shoes, cos everyone regards them as clowns anyway
Since when can a salesperson give a caution, although I give a caution it's stuck to my front door it say's "warning venomous reptiles on premises, if you get bitten you will die as you have NOT been invited in I do have anti venom but only for friends and family" no-ones ever knocked at my door
Any person or company can read you your rights and give you a caution...You can do it....I can do it (though why we would is questionable) In the case of Capita they do it and operate under the rules of PACE to give them credibility......as I said...read up on it and start doing it to your friends if you are crazy enough......have a PACE party where you all caution each other.
I have mentioned before about a partially sighted neighbour being visited by an "inspector" from Capita. The conversation was short he said who he was asked to come in. She told him no he'd have to come back when her daughter was there.
He said "No problem call the number on this form to arrange that. Could you please give me a signature so my boss will know I have visited you"
She took the door chain off he has to put the pen in her hand into the signature box before she signed. He gave her a carbon copy where he had circled YES to the question "Do you watch live TV"
She did not have a TV.
Back then it was a smaller form.
This tells you the type of person you are dealing with AND the lengths some of them will go to in order to get you to pay for a licence!
They are paid a basic salary and get a % of the fee for each licence they "sell" as a bonus so they are incentivised to sell more licences!
The form and questions are there to intimidate and trick you into answering questions. They are not police, emergency services, HM Customs and....
They have no right to enter your home unless you give them permission.
OR
If they have a warrant!
Do not give them permission.
Do not answer any questions they ask.
Do not sign anything.
Ask them politely to leave and not come back.
You can do this through a closed front door or with the door on a security chain!
They do not have the right to enter even if they have a warrant...this particular Capita warrant only gives them the right to ASK you to allow them to enter.
@@Pinzpilot101 The warrants come on application from the Magistrates Court they don't issue Capita Warrants.
Capita have a policy NOT to force entry but they usually turn up with a warrant and police.
If you don't answer the door they won't force entry.
If you do they will show you the warrant and explain they have the right to enter.
I recently watched a You Tube video where they turned up at a house with a warrant and police. Police explained "allow them in or be arrested for obstruction and the house would be searched anyway"
They asked him to turn on the TV he refused. The goons got the remote turned on the set tried to get a signal. Tried to fire up a streaming stick and couldn't.
Started asking the householder questions from the interview form. He didn't answer.
They threatend him with arrest for "obstruction". They read him the PACE caution.
He said "You are not police. You have no powers of arrest. If these officers want to arrest me I'll go with them be interviewed under caution with my Solicitor present.
He asked the officers who were observing everything "Are you going to arrest me?" One replied "No" the other tried hard not to piss himself laughing at the two "plastic policemen" from Capita.
Search over they left telling him "we will report you for obstruction. He refused to sign their form!
I think there's more than one video of visits with a warrant. Check them out.
@@stevew3196 We have all seen this video....He knew what he was doing...he was not 'done' for obstruction because he did not obstruct, he just gave them rope to hang themselves with. The reason I call them Crapita Warrants is that they are ONLY used by Crapita...they are never ever used by any other organisation...They are Proformas, signed maybe months in advance by a JP and photocopied off with details written in. A REAL warrant will be newly typed and signed by a judge the ink will literally still be wet....these are distinctly different and used by the Police. ANYONE even you can read the PACE caution to anyone TESCO could do it if they so wished......Crapita only do it to give their salesmen some credibility, which being mere salesmen, they do not have in any measure.
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These people are scumbags and should never have got the job as salesmen,
Got my first visit last week, the one benefit of living in a 3 storey house is that when the door bell rung, I just popped my head out of the window and said "hello" (I suspected he was a goon!) "TV licensing", "NOT INTERESTED MATE". Window closed-he didn't hang around! 👍
" Caution" Unbelievable! Trying to made it sound like they're law enforcement!
3:52 "What is your date of birth?" "Fuck off!" LOL
Hang about, that caution is the same as what an arresting Police officer would say when arresting someone.
They're delusional, they actually think they are the Police. Eff em.
TFS & take care everybody. ♥️🙂🐶
mental really, I don't have a shotgun licence but the police never seem to want to come round to see if I have a gun or not
Sounds more like someone trying to get your details to claim benefits or a bank loan in your name.
Same low level of creature.
Unbelievable!!!!! What a nerve these salesmen have!!!!! Grrrrrrrrh !
Simply put only a judge can issue a policeman with a warrant to enter your address. Tell them to go do one!
Correct. If they turn up with a warrant it's a warrant to search and/or inspect *if* you let them in. It is *not* a warrant of entry.
Hi Jon ,not surprised.I can’t hate them anymore than I already do.Maybe their head quarters could be made into affordable housing for first time buyers struggling with renting.
We got someone on the inside? Or maybe we should, would be good to hear what it’s like from the other side
If you've got kids in the house ask the goon for thier current CRB check. To prove they don't have convictions, none will have one and all do walk away. Works every time even if you don't have kids ask them for their CRB check as your vulnerable.
Excellent tip. Thanks.
Not been CRB for years. It's dbs now
@@willspin9572 thanks for the update I'll remember that. Works every time though never had an issue.
Great stuff mate!just got a letter last week saying that there sending an officer here! Wish me luck 😂
I had one too I’ve had loads, Most of it’s BS!
Just had on, he just left when I said not interested.
I've had one of them, just waiting so I can laugh in their face as I close the door.
I’m the same i got letter stuff the bias bbc
You don't need luck, just an hand to swing the door shut.
Every question on the form is there to positively identify you and incriminate you, its the only evidence they can get. Very interesting to see this.
Got rid of my licence last month, didn,t get a refund but i don,t care cos i,m rid of them at last and finally seen sense 🙂🙂👍
You’re bloody brilliant ! I crackup every time you talk about the tv licensing goons. Keep up the good work!
GDPR: Information collected must be relevent. NI Number is completly irrelivent .
Maybe it’s time to report Crapita to the ICO for a possible breach of GDPR 😁
Only reason I could imagine they would want a NI number would be check if the house holder is getting pensions credits aka free licence would then be awarded. Otherwise it’s information they do not need to collect some how fair use comes to mind.
I have replied to their letter that advised me my property is under investigation. I warned them that, if they contacted me again, I would make a formal complaint to the police of stalking and malicious communication and that I would sue any "inspector" for trespass in the event that one of them set foot on my property.
I asked him to talk to me off my property...away from the porch - in pouring rain, he gave the whole lecture and and I just gave him the "not relevant" or "I do not disclose this information" response...took about 4 minutes and he walked off. I wished him a nice day but almost felt sorry...you must be really desperate to do a job like that... ;-)
My TV inspection is tomorrow. Looking forward to it.
Bet they don't turn up
@@prime1971 probably not.
I Bet it doesn't happen.
Wait in. Send them a bill for £159 if they don't turn up
@@gbhxu Haha,good shout. Tell them I took the day off for it.
Just cancelled my direct debit to them, Love the videos Chilli, keep them coming and good luck on the subs
Anything I’d like to say, ‘’Yeah! Walk away now with short jerky movements”
I have had no television for 9 years but was told they might still check to see whether I need a licence. Haven't had a visit yet but I can't wait to get one so that I can tell them where to go!
Just had my 77 year old nan trying to me over one of these threatening letters. Bearing in Just showed her channel and a few of you videos took the weight right off her shoulders and she won't be paying for one ever again! Keep up the good work 👍
Only two words to say; the second one is ‘off’!
@@domingodesantaclara1130 Rhymes with "fire truck".
If they have visited after a removal if implied right if access, or if you have a no cold callers sign on your door they may be breaking the law. They can be sued and the police could be called if they refuse to leave or come the c___.
I have cancelled my DD payments for a licence and they sent me a letter to tell me I had that ny DD has been cancelled, I'm thinking, yes I know I cancelled it. Sit back and wait for the circus to begin.
There is a reason they ask a written phrase. The word understand, in this instance, does not mean do you comprehend. It is a legal word that means you freely give the person using it control over you.
There was a TVL goon at the door today. I can see from upstairs who is ringing my doorbell. I ignored it and he went away. TV Licensing is not a registered company at companies house. 'Do you understand' means 'do you stand under me' no is the correct answer. But ignore them anyway.
Do you understand !!! No I OVER stand 😉👍
TV licensing is not a registered company but capita is and they have to publish yearly accounts good place to start for an investigation using a FOI?
This guy had the form on his little machine.
Great work, if you won’t cancel your license after watching this channel’s plentiful and informative videos, then there is no hope for you. Ditch the license!
Their forms are data harvesting as data has a financial value when they sell it on, which they do regularly.
Like the DVLA selling your vehicle details to PRIVATE parking companies.
We’ve signed the online declaration and subsequently had 8 letters and one visit since January. If they were an ex. they’d be arrested for stalking by now. If they come again and try to caution me, I shall just keep saying ‘nope, don’t understand. No, still not getting it.’ It would be interesting to see how long they can go on for 🤣
Camera doorbells are amazing👍😁
Thanks Chilli great and interesting video as per normal
Congratulations on your extremely well deserved 40,000 subscribers. I look forward to the day that you have more subscribers than the execrable beeb. You provide a more valuable public service than do the BBC. Well done, and thank you Mr. CJC
One of your best videos. Keep up the good work 👍
I had a TV licensing goon turn up at my mums house years ago while I was visiting, but she was not in, having popped out to the shops. The guy stood their and asked if he could come in and I said no, it isn't my property and told him she was not in. He then started asking me questions, to which I said either no or don't know to, he then handed me this document, and asked me to sign it, but I saw he had ticked yes to a bunch of the questions, so I said no, I ain't signing that and he went off. A month later I had a court sommuns for TV licensing, and I had to go there, and I was drilled by some prosicuter for 10 minutes, when I showed them evidence that I do not live there, she asked, 'But Martyn, why did you sighn the paper?' I asked to see the signature, and when they tried to show me, they found It was not signed after all, and that was the end of that.
Admittedly, I should have just shut the door on him, but I was younger then, and I thought it would be better to get rid of him by telling him she didn't have a TV. Didn't know he would ever try to trick me, or that I would end up in court.
Thank god you didnt sign!
Obviously they were pinning their hopes on a favourable judge overlooking the fact that the document was unsigned. I bet whoever decided to prosecute no longer works there.
I seriously think anyone getting hold of your national insurance number could be in serious trouble with the law. This is one thing you should never give to anyone other than a verified government department.
With that information they can then look up your driving licence and so much more details about you. Why do they need all that data?
I always thought that it was only a police officer that could caution you, and that was before they arrested you.
Do you remember when plasma TVs were new and you needed a second mortgage to buy one? I was purchasing one in Currys, and right when I had paid my near three grand the pimple-faced lad said he needed my details for TV licencing purposes, I told him to fuck right off and carry my TV to the car, he just said 'yes sir' and that was that. I don't think he wanted to lose his commission on that one.
Don't let scammers into your home
They should be locked up for intimidation. I cancelled my TV licence 3 years ago still waiting for a visit. I wish they would make my day by knocking on my door.
'I don't have a television set', that's all you have to say, oh and 'goodbye,' say nothing else.
I believe they are breaching G.D.P.R. guidelines too.
They should only request information they need for the task at hand and, then, remove it thereafter
That is actually a very good point, since GDPR came in they may well be in violation with these forms! Underrated comment right here!
This form may well pre date the introduction of gdpr to be fair. I haven’t managed to date it yet
@@ChilliJonCarne worth further investigation 🔎
Most of these goons, anyway, do not understand the intricacies of G.D.P.R. and would shit themselves if confronted.
Take their names and threaten them on your doorstep
"F off" is exactly how I answer the age question since I reached the magical age of 40...
same here!
My wife and I emigrated to south-west Colombia three years ago.
There's none of that rubbish here
Rather take my chances with the goons than the narcos, left and right wing death squads, emerald gang warfare. But that’s just me a nervous type. 😆
That’s a long way to go just to get out of having to buy a TV Licence!
No they just sell drugs in stead
if the bbc were realy that concerned about people watching the content for free then maybe they should encrypt it like they do with sky movies and sports this way if you want to watch the bbc you can get a decryption device and watch it.
This way it would leave you just the free channels to watch without ever breaking the "law".
Just shut the door. No interview no caution
I still receive a paper licence.
Great video as always. Keep well.
Share with everyone you know
I suggest, having the powers of just about any person, these goons have no appropriate authority to properly issue this legal caution. So many jumped up people seem to be doing this nowadays, I suggest that only if it is used by an appropriate person, eg Proper Police Officer, Customs Officer etc, it actually legally means anything.
Also, I suggest, regardless of the person, appropriate authority or not, NEVER EVER say that you "understand". People think this is a comprehension issue, but I suggest in legal matters, saying that you "understand" means that you accept authority from the other person and agree to abide by it. I suggest to this day, this is why police will always say "Do You understand" ie "Submit to my authority".
As many people have suggested, the BBC seem to be using "jumped up" companies with "jumped up" people using "jumped up" tactics that would probably put most other companies in jail.
Indeed, they switch to a language called legalese.
Never tell people details they claim to be able to get. This applies to tvl with their detector vans and people who phone you to tell you about an accident you've had. Ask them when you had the accident and ask them what channels you've been watching.
Shame on you BBC.
ah I see how they get you "when did you first use the set at this address without an appropriate licence" obviously you'll just answer the day you moved in or the day you bought it when you should say "well I haven't, I have only used it within the perimeters of not having a licence so not watching anything live"
Very cheeky
You should never answer anything!
Loved your summing up that b.s. form
Isn't it only the police that can caution you?
Plus......no warrant, no entry!
Why is this allowed, it is shocking the questions on the form, its geared to stitch you up.
Great video. I wonder how many variations of feck off could be used in answering questions on that form/loo paper.
Just a bunch of clowns, honestly 🤣🤣🤣
GDPR.. comes to mind since when are we required to give NI number to some goon off the street. That level of personal information they want to gather is a direct misconduct and total disregard of GDPR.
If they offer you a document to sign, just rip it up and throw it back in their face.
Jon are you considering doing something similar for the "court officers/ warrant officers*/bailiffs"? *When I was in the army warrant officer was a rank so I would ask about their service to baffle them. They are not court officials nor bailiffs but a private debt collection firm. They have the same MO as these goons.
You help me sleep at night, both figuratively and legitimately, thank you
It amazes me in today's big brother world we live in... how TV Licensing aka the "BBC" cannot tell if you watch
TV or not. Where's this detector van they always spoke of in yester-year? I have never seen one. And I have
not owned a TV since 2013. Yet they still write to me wanting to enter my home to "SEE" if I have a TV or
not. So I ask them - "Send one of your detector vans down my road" - lonnnnngggggg silence.
Do not understand (stand under) Rise above.
I stand under no-one👍
I wouldn't talk to them but if I did, the moment they got to the caution I'd just laugh in their face and shut the door.
Thank you for your videos I have cancelled my tv licence and shared your videos with family and friends also on social media fingers crossed we can get more to cancel x
Cancelled through the correct channel via phone call 2 months ago.
Today I've had a letter saying I've got ten days to relicence or they are a comin.
Come then and have the door slammed in your face.
I laughed me bollocks off.
Very educational! thanks for the video!
To "understand", is legalise for meaning stand under or in other words uphold and support what is going on. Never understand anything. 👍🍺
Totally correct and never answer no, which creates controversy which courts can adjudicate on. Asking a question avoids controversy (therefore nothing for a court to adjudicate on) and asking them: "Am I obliged to understand?" throws them and the police BTW, for a complete loop.
Chillijoncarne, I am 83yr and have just received a letter from TV licensing with the headline .....
; Please Act Now, Before Your Licence is cancelled.
It goes on about covering my licence till August 31, at no time does this letter threatened me with any enforcement Goons visits, fines or prosecutions etc.
The only threat is them to cancel my licence, well not having a contract with them I have nothing to cancel.
My licence was FREE and I have no intention of entering into another contract with them so they can go whistle.
I neither want or need a TV licence therefore I don't require a contract with BBC.
In my drawer I have a tv licence which is dated 2001. I will hand that to the goon when he turns up, and when he says to me, "This is twenty years out of date", I will reply, "So are the damned programmes!"
It's true, I really do have my old licence from 2001. 😂
That would be hilarious 😂