Cordial correction: The XE75 does indeed allow you to utilize the 6Ghz band for BOTH backhaul AND Wi-Fi client connection simultaneously. You can select this feature from the menu option shown in this video @ time code 15:26 by selecting "Wi-Fi Network & Backhaul". I've been using mine in this configuration for nearly 2 years and it works spectacularly! I have lots of WiFi networks around me but I'm the only one with a 6E network. Great comparison overall though! 😊
This was honestly the best video for Deco people ever. You did a really great job with very meaningful benchmarks. I thought I would be happy with my X20, but after seeing the video, I instantly bought the 2 node XE75 Pro for $229 on Black Friday. Good job and thank you.
Awesome comparison video! Thank you for all the effort you put into the charts. I just bought a 2-pack of the X55s last week, and love them already, even though they're on the lower end in your review. They're great in my duplex environment, and give me signal three units down the street!
Haven´t finished the video yet and I already need to congratulate for the excellent explanation of the wired/wireless back-haul and also the speed test with local/external servers. So many reviews that simply don't focus on these matters. Thank you. This is helping so much on my decision to buy a Wifi Mesh Pack. Ps. one of the review videos I saw said the product was excellent because the wifi was at full power ( wifi icon with all the bars) but then the actual speed to the internet test was like 10% of the possible real speed. Guess what, the wireless back-haul was in stress because of the distances. And obviously they couldn't figure it out why.
I appreciate it! Wifi can be misunderstood because it's interchangeably used in place of internet. Wifi actually has nothing to do with the Internet, wifi is only referring to your connection between your device and a router or node. You may have a very strong connection to a node that might have a weak connection to the main router which will reduce your internet speeds as you mentioned. Another common thing that is misunderstood is megabytes per second vs megabits per second.
@landpet I know and it works fine for my phone, but I want my smart home items to use a specific one. But they are all named similar🫠 and I had to disconnect that deco to move it, and now they're connected to the 1 that's 1 floor down hahah
My first entry into mesh. I bought the ax3000 with 3 x55 units. Such an easy setup. I initially have setup with wireless backhaul but my home actually has wired cat 5 to my critical rooms. My internet speed is around 300 Mbps down, so I am wondering if I should use wired backhaul on my 2 satellites and if it is worth the effort considering my actual internet speed is right around where your tests show that wireless would be. Great review and tests, much appreciated.
@@landpet Yep, I checked speed at the X55 router and it was full 300, at the two satellites it was 50 using wireless backhaul. Checked cables in the house and they are 5e so I connected one of the router Gigabit ports to the house and then connected the other 2 Mesh units to the distributed 5e. Now full 300 when checked at all nodes. Thanks for this great video and tips.
FANTASTIC and informative...definitely helps me know that for my 1GB network w wireless backhaul that my short listing of the XE75 is spot on! Off to see what other relevant videos you have on your channel. THANKS!
silly question why do you not Ethernet connect each Hub back to the routers Ethernet ports or Switch / hub which in my case is a 100gig switch.....instead of daisy changing and slowing each wifi down?.daisy changing puts them in series whare as the Ethernet back to the router / switch puts them in par allow? and in theory be much faster....as I would hope the mesh would then load shair at a wifi level and the each Ethernet conection would take the strain for the back to the internet loading?
Do you have any videos on the most effective placement of mesh network in the home? Im running the Deco S4 mesh network and the range isn’t great or top end speeds and I’ve tried different placements. Thanks for the video
Thank you for your videos! After getting 10 Gbps Fiber internet, I went in a tailspin and tried so many routers and mesh solutions. Very frustrated with Asus's buggy and eyesore AXE16000. Netgear RAX3000 wifi wasn't strong enough in the back of the house (old 1940s house with lath and plaster walls). Your mesh comparisons helped me give a try to Tp-link Deco XE75 Pro, a brand I never considered. I am now a convert. I just works, like Eero but with much better performance and less push for Amazon's things. Since I have 10 Gbps, I want more more more... I am going to skip the Deco XE2000 and pre-ordered the BE95 as I would love to have WiFi 7 used for Wireless backhaul between the living room and the bedroom+office in the back. Yes it is expensive but I am saving quite a lot of money since I cut the cord so I am justify it that way ;) Good luck with the race to 100K subscribers!
For the range tests, the distance parameter, is this from the closest node in a 3 pair setup? Or from the telco router on which the main node is connected? My office is let's say 30m away from the telco router, what if I put 3 nodes in between with a wireless backhaul, do I need to look at the 15m download speed test or the 30m download speed test?
An ISP-provided router failure propelled me into a TPLink X3000 3-unit mesh. Had no idea how well this would work but setup was easy and I am pretty pleased so far. My question is around something that appears on the app when I select a connected client. It says "Family Member" with a ">" arrow. Selecting it goes to a screen that says "No profile". Once there it is a dead-end with no means to create a profile showing only a frowny face. I cannot seem to find any information about what this is nor how to create profiles. I presume this allows classification of connectivity options and such. Any ideas about what this is? [Thanks]
Thanks for this amazing and informative video. I did learn a lot, also removed the X55 in my cart and added one from your link (you are welcome lol). But also, I may just go for the X20 lol. I want to do wireless backhaul on a budget. Yikes! I'm in trouble.
Great video, thanks for the info. I have the X50 pack of three which is working fine but struggling to get to the second floor. Thinking of adding a more powerful unit. Where would you place it, closer to the router, somewhere in between or the farthest away? Thanks!
Built a new 1 level house. Knowing that it would be a larger foot print I ran some CAT 6e to key places, including the further walls so that I could extend the wifi with wire. I have Deco X55 and all work great by linking them with wire. Problem I see is that my desktop that uses hard wire is now much slower than it was when using my xfinity router/modem plugged into switch. I have set my xfinity modem to bridge mode and here is my setup... xfinity -> main deco -> switch : I get great wireless speed (850 down/125 up). Wired I get 425/75. Before deco I was: xfinity -> switch : I got wireless about 700/100, but wired I'd get 900+/125+. What am I doing wrong?
Just bought the xe75 pro with your discount code. Great reviews! Would like to see some updates and maybe deeper dives into the options in setting for best performance. Is beam forming and fast switch settings important to have set a specific way?
Thanks! It’s preferred to have both of those enabled but some IoT devices may not connect right away (you may need to reset those IOT devices and reconnect in the case they don’t work) so just as a heads up. Those are really the only settings and the 6GHz dedicated backhaul that are going to make a difference.
Super video. In my area, my internet plan is 940 down/35 up. Looking at getting the x4300 pro system to replace my current router. I bought a great netgear (rax70) but it has been nothing but a headache. excited to try that 4300 pro system.
Another helpful video!!! Question... My 10 year old house is wired with Cat5 ethernet cable. If I use three TP nodes with a wired backhaul network, would it be pointless to buy a wifi 6 or 6E system, as the ethernet cables could not handle the speed? Or should I just use 6E on a wireless backhaul network?? Also... how can I tell if my device (iphone 14, LG TV, Macbook Pro) are 6E devices? Is that info somewhere in the device setting? Thanks!
Thank you for the fantastic review! Your thorough process and testing really shine through in the final conclusion. Much appreciated! I purchased the TP-Link Deco AXE5400 Tri-Band WiFi 6E Mesh System (Deco XE75 Pro) from your link above. Looking forward to having a better system with way less buffering. Cheers!!
Just found your channel, loving the technical breakdowns and all the hard work you are putting in to test this equipment. I ordered the TP-Link X75 Pro, thanks for the 10% off code! I wasn't even considering TP Link before visiting this channel. I was more leaning toward the Amazon Eero as I thought it was basically just between Amazon and Netgear for Wifi 6E mesh networks. Keep up the great work.
Awesome review! I have an old Google mesh from 2018 which still works. Now than I have the Verizon home 5g network which of the Deco would work the best for this setup?? 6e or 6?
I just can’t get these speeds and will never understand why. For instance, where he got ~900mbps down with the 75pro and a WiFi 6 device, single router, local test, I get maybe 700 or often less. This was a test with no other clients connected to a new xe75 pro. I’m in a residential neighborhood with brick 3500 sq ft homes or above. I can barely pick up on other 5GHZ ssids. Local speed test server is connected via lan.
Hello. Thank you for all of your videos. I recently replaced my Orbi RBK50 (with 2 Satellites) with the Deco XE75 (3pack). I have AT&T Fiber (1GB) internet home service. I am running the Deco 75 as my router with the other two as Satellites and wireless backhaul. I have disabled the wifi on the AT&T gateway so I can use the Deco as the router, I am finding that the Deco does not seem to be as stable as the older RBK50 and doesn't seem to have quite the range as the older ORBI RBK50. Would you recommend using the AT&T gateway as the router instead of the DECO? Just looking for some ideas as I would think the newer Deco should be more stable and give better range than a very old Orbi system. Thank you.
I am unsure about which one to buy between x20 and x55, there is there is not much price difference, i would be using decos with ethernet backhaul, i feel x55s don’t offer much over x20s. Please recommend something. I have a 500Mbps connection at my place and I use around 30 IOT devices like lights and fans.
I had deco x55 , when using 2ghz for wyze cameras, connection always dropping, I turn off mesh, QoS, but signal still not improving, I tried few hours of configuration but still no hope, cameras are less than 15 feet..I am thinking returning the product
I hear with the latest firmware that the x50 supports openvpn. Is this correct? Do any of the others support openvpn? Really wanting to confirmed a vpn with my mesh system. Thanks!
Question: how to start with a mesh system ? I have a normal router (with wifi) and 4 output ports, that I currently use - If I replace my router with one of the mesh system then I have a limit of ethernet ports so do i first have a switch from my modem and then use one output to the mesh system or ???
Great comparison ! I don't understand why the xe75pro has a better range than the xe75, I thought the only difference was the 2.5GHz ethernet port... Any ideas ? I'm looking for the best solution to provide WiFi to my upper floor from where I get no signal with my current router, thus I'm looking for the best possible range as I want to use a wireless backhaul.
What does "range" mean? Is this the distance to the nearest mesh device when testing with the target device (i.e. mobile phone)? Is it also the distance from which the mesh devices can be placed from each other?
VERY helpful video. Loved that you were comparing local network speeds. I have a Plex server, so this is important for streaming high bandwidth Remuxes on multiple devices. I also don't have my home hardwired with Ethernet. So smart that you made recommendations based on individual uses. THANK YOU!!! You have a new subscriber. P.S. I was leaning toward the X55, but now I'm going to go with the XE75.
I just got fiberoptic in my area. I got the Deco EX5300 and my speeds are mediocre at best. I am paying for 1gb but am getting 385 Download and 486 upload speeds. any tips on how I can fix this? Should I get another Deco tower, to add the already two that came with the package?
I’m having similar issues with my fiber service and just purchased the deco AX4300 and my speeds are actually slower. I have spectrum and maybe it’s the connection from their modem to my router. Did you end up getting your issue resolved with the deco router?
The deco helped but speeds are still not where they should be. I was told, by my a techy friend, that I need to update my modem and not use the stock modem that came with the service switch. I haven’t gotten around to that yet, but when I do, I’ll lyk.
For the 3 port: I wonder if you can use one for WAN, and 2 ports for backhaul to get 2 Gb local. I just got a pair of XE75. Plan to use 6E backhaul for now, as I have no 6E device. Possibly I'll pull some twisted pair through an empty conduit later. For now, I just needed to replace my old (single point) WiFi-router, because it occasionally dropped out, and local communication and device discovery was very buggy. Wanted 6 GHz backhaul to avoid interference with 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz in neighborhood, and to delay wired backhaul until I want to utilize 6E for device connection.
@@landpet I just ditcher my ~10 yo. Asus RT-AC66U 802.11ac router. Speed was never a problem, I guess I can live without Link Aggregation, at "only" 1 Gb 🙂 Only problem with my old router was: - rang; some devices struggled to stay connected - device detection; sometimes devices was undetectable, and everything had to restart. I wanted to wait for WiFi 6E to get 6 MHz, because I'm in range WiFi of about 10 different neighbors (half of them just briefly detectable)
Once you have the mesh set up does that mean that all your devices need to connect to the mesh? For example, my back yard security camera uses a very weak WiFi signal - so should I connect it to the mesh or does all your devices automatically connect to the mesh?
Thank you for the advice I almost bought the wrong Mesh due to lack of knowledge. I search the web for an hours before I found your video with all the information I needed in "one place". I liked the explanation of the backhaul function.
Glad my video was useful! If you want to know about how to connect this stuff, I did a video with the Deco XE75 showing all connections, the general rule applies to any of the Deco's in this video: ua-cam.com/video/QVKRQDokkhE/v-deo.html
I've narrowed my choice down to the XE75 or XE5300. Looking at your video, the 5300 is much faster on the local test, but the 75 wins on every distance test. Why the difference? Does that put the 75 above the 5300, since there will be distance involved when placing them in a house? I'm just not sure how to interpret your results.
Thanks! I did the same video with newer models: TP Link Deco Mesh WiFi Comparisons | X50-PoE, PX50, XE70 Pro, BE63, BE65 Pro, BE16000, BE85, BE95 ua-cam.com/video/m2MnLpjbuU0/v-deo.html
Does the wired backhaul mode works also if we connect both units to the modem directly via ethernet, instead of connecting the 2nd unit to the 1st unit which is connected to the modem?
Hi, nice comparison! Can you tell me if the X55 would be good for a brick wall apartment? Is the XE75 transmission much stronger than the X55 and more suitable for me, or is it about the same power as the X55? I understand well the other difference beteween those models, I am now concerned about the range and signal strength/penetration. Thanks!
XE75 should be better however here's another option altogether, you can try using a MoCA 2.5 adapter assuming you have coax cables throughout the walls. With this method, you can get the X55 and it would still be great. ua-cam.com/video/LsATjTMK5Uc/v-deo.html
@@landpetI have Ethernet cable through the walls to make a wired backhaul. My concern is not about the backhaul, but about the wifi performance itself from the decos to the mobile devices.
Ive been happy with my X20 series but i have noticed u cant have separate 2.4 and 5ghz wifi ssid. Its both bands together. Not sure if its due to the mesh system and if tp-link will add this capability in future firmware.
No problem. These are the new decos if you’re interested: TP Link Deco Mesh WiFi Comparisons | X50-PoE, PX50, XE70 Pro, BE63, BE65 Pro, BE16000, BE85, BE95 ua-cam.com/video/m2MnLpjbuU0/v-deo.html
Great video! I currently have 2 pack XE75. main deco is wired same 1 level floor and my other device is wireless in another room about 10-15 ft away. but I recently upgrade my Att fiber to 2gbps. So my question is.. to get most of my fiber speeds, do you think I should I purchase a Xe75 pro 1 unit, make is my main deco and utilize the 2.5 gbps port and my other 2 xe75 devices as wireless.? Will I get better speeds throughout the whole system.? Thank you.
For wired backhaul, does it matter if the secondary one isn't connected directly to the primary unit and instead goes through an ethernet switch first? Main unit will be downstair, connected directly to my router, I have an ethernet switch upstairs connected to the main router and from that switch I will connect the second one.
It doesn't matter, either way works. The only important note is that the deco router is connected directly to the modem. I also recently posted a deco xe75 setup guide where I talk about all the ways of connecting it. It applies to pretty much any mesh system.
I have TP Link P9? Set the ones with power line back haul. I’ve been pretty happy overall with the system but I hate the software as it’s very basic. I have no idea how well my power line backhaul is doing of if it’s using wireless, etc… just not enough information for me. I’m thinking of the Asus version of their power line mesh system.
Hi! I have a house that has a ground floor, first floor and second floor and utp cables are routed through. The router is located on the first floor. The connection would be 1000/500Mbps. Is it possible to connect one node (for the ground floor) with utp to the main router and another node (for the second floor) with utp to the main router? So they are not mesh wifi, but would be access points? Would x55 be ok? Thanks!
Will i have a benefit when i wire the Most away with the next nearest deco but not the Main? So the Main will be Wireless and the other two will be wired together? With one of them nearer to the Main?
Anytime you use wired backhaul, it will typically be better than wireless backhaul even if you are mixing and matching. The goal is to typically use wired backhaul when possible.
In the wired backhaul local test section, if the main router connect to its satellite with both their fastest ports(2.5G for XE200, XE75 pro and X4300 pro), then Wifi 6/6E Device should get more than 1000Mbps speed from satellite (assume the main router connect to your file server via 6/6E wifi or via 2.5G ethernet switch as well)? I am curious why we don't see more than 1Gbps speed here ?
This is going to be a long explanation, it might be easier if I make a video on it. The simple answer is it's possible but only in an odd way, let's take the XE200. If you're home internet speeds are gigabit speeds or under, you could just plug your modem/ONT/etc to your gigabit port (instead of the 10Gbps) since all these Deco's have autosensing ports. Now if you do this, you can wired the 10Gbps to a 10Gbps switch and wire that to the other Deco 10Gbps switch. Now in this case, you can have LAN speeds of up to 10Gbps (assuming all your other hardware including cables support the speeds). However this will just speed up your LAN and not your Internet speeds. Your internet will be capped at Gigabit speeds because of your ISP and the Gigabit port on the Deco. Now let's take another scenario, your internet speeds are 10Gbps, well you have to go from your Modem/ONT/etc to your 10Gbps port on your Deco XE200, the problem with that is that now coming out of the Deco (since there is only one fast port on it), you are coming out at gigabit speeds because that 10Gbps port is being utilized to be connected to the modem. So anything passed the point will be capped to gigabit speeds. Now there is a workaround, which I haven't tried, but in theory it is possible. You could get a managed switch that supports 10Gbps speeds and connect your Modem/ONT/etc. to your Managed Switch (not unmanaged switch which is what I refer to most of the time when I say switch and in my setup videos). Now assuming that managed switch is properly setup (since it will require configuration), you can then go directly from that managed switch to each deco's 10Gbps port enabling a 10Gbps LAN. Now this is a scenario where you need another expensive piece of equipment which is outside what the Mesh comes with so I omit these explanations. I omit a lot of other explanations as well in an effort to make the videos as short as possible while giving the meat of the data to help people make informed decisions. BTW, this is one of my longest comment responses, and I do have to say that was a good question.
Hay, you are doing amazing videos! I would like to check for your recommendation for mesh system for Apartment on the second floor and my garage (ground floor). The garage is 15-20 meters diagonally. I am considering trying TP-Link Deco XE75, but if I can have your recommendation I would be grateful.
Depends on the receiving device but the xe200 is fantastic for sure, better than the XE75. The XE75 is also very good especially for the price but the xe200 is better.
debating going ethrenet to a wireless backhaul node, would any of them be more ideal than the others? theres a 3 pack of the w4500's on a great sale. I only have 1000 down 40 up, would those suffice? They would only be ~ 15 feet apart. Just trying to eliminate a cat6 cable run without losing too much ping/packets/bandwidth. Thank you!
Thanks for the effort put into the vid, very informative. What I'd like to know is how not so much about peak speeds, but how stable they are with multiple devices. I have about 35 WiFi devices in the house and I'm curious to know if a mesh system will help provide them all stable connections? I currently get -60db over 5GHz to my entire house, but my aging router keep dropping devices. Welcome your advice on stability and general speed when loaded up with multiple devices.
I'm on a budget. Would the x20 (3 pack) be a good choice for a 3,000 sq. ft. house . 3 levels, so one device per level. Also, you mention the first unit needs to be connected straight to the modem, not a switch. SO, would I go from the modem to the X20 with Ethernet and then another ethernet back out of the x20 into my switch?
Yes, it would be fine (wired backhaul does perform much better) and yes that is how you would connect it. I have setup guide video on the xe75 which is basically the same you setup the x20 if you’re interested. ua-cam.com/video/QVKRQDokkhE/v-deo.html
X20 model is too much to my country standards! We just started to use wifi 5! Mainly, we just have enough with 2.4 wifi! The main concern is we use thick concrete walls : 6 ~ 10 inches average thick (there're thickers). How many units can we add to a mesh network? Do you recommend some other models? Note: average ISP internet speed is 20 Mbps, maybe lower. Higher or top speeds are around 100 Mbps, at some counted cases, less than 1000/4000000 of users, could be 200 Mbps, pretty rare those "high" speeds.
@@xhivo97 I bought the X55 with 3 units. At home worked at average speed, not high, not so low. At office, with 5 units, with less than 10 meters one of the other, some marked 9 mbps or even 1.2 mbps. Main unit marked 200 mbps.
hi, thanks for the video, I'm using right now the m9 plus 3 pack and I want to change it. they are connected between them over wifi and I would very much like your help to select which one can replace them and even be better. I have two story house with concrete walls so I need 3 packs and I would prefer tri band of course. which one do you think will be a good pick to replace the m9 plus ? Also, I understand the the x20 has no option to connect the nodes over wifi
@@landpet That's great to hear, I've had the x20 and tested other for my family since 2020 and recently got a NAS with 10gbe capabilities. Really interested on their Deco BE95 local speed tests. Love your videos and trust them a lot. They are on pre-order on Amazon but will def wait for your review just to get a better idea if it is worth my money based on your numbers (since I already know how your tests compare with mine based on my own tests with similar decos lol)
There’s also a deco x10 but it’s not sold anymore. For someone with 500 spectrum that’s the cheapest and best option cuz paying extra for the expensive model won’t make sense with 500
Your are in a unique position to do a test for compatibility. TP-Link has indicated that the mesh system allows for mixing the deco routers. That, unfortunately, has not been my experience. I could not get my old TP-Link AC1200 to work with my newer Deco X60. That could be user error. When you make a large investment and new Decos become available, the question is - can one actually purchase 1 of the new Decos and integrate with the existing mesh system. Depending, too, on the new Deco purchase, it may be a wise move to make it the main router and and the "old" mesh devices the satellites. Do you have any testing of this sort?
I do see the option to add decos but I haven't mixed them. You are correct, to link does mention that. How did you set it up? I would factory reset your ac1200, connect the x60 as your main, so set that up first then within the deco app, add your ac1200. You can also reach out to tp link
Thank you for the awesome review. I'm looking at gettingbtje XE75 Pro as I have Telus fibre at 1.5gigs up and down. Was also looking at the Orbi too but I'm sold on the Deco now.
If you’re going wireless backhaul, the XE75 Pro is a good choice. If you are going wired backhaul, I would get the Deco X55 Pro since that has 2 fast ports
The newest Deco is the X55 Pro, which is Wifi 6 but has two (2) 2.5 gig ports. I'm really conflicted on whether to get this and have Wifi 6 be the bottleneck, or to go for the XE75 Pro with 6E but be bottlenecked by the 1 gig port (for my desktop computer, which is connected to the AP running wireless backhaul). Assuming ISP is not a factor, which would you recommend? Based on these results, the performance of the X4300 on wireless feels like what I'll see in the X55 Pro, in which case I feel like the XE75 Pro is the better choice.
If you’re running wired backhaul, go with the X55 Pro. If you’re running wireless backhaul and have faster speeds than gigabit, I would get a more expensive system that has 2 fast ports but also has good wireless speeds like the Asus ET12 or if money is no object, go with the Deco Be85
Can you string the routers in more a line Dedicated Router--Router--Router? I notices most the diagrams show the dedicated router only connecting to one other router Router---Dedicated---Router. Reason I ask is i live in a more rectangular house than a square. Thank you!
If you get a 3 pack Deco system, you connect one of the routers to the modem. You can connect the other two either directly to the deco router or you can connect them one after another. Modem > deco 1 > deco 2 > deco 3
Great video, question, if you use wired backhaul, If I have 2 satellites and a main, will both satellites come to the main by a small switch so it can detect which one is being accesed?
Great video - thank you. If I have an Xfnity gateway (XB6-T), will the TP-Link Deco AXE5400 Tri-Band WiFi 6E Mesh work well? Do I still need the Xfinity gateway?
Thanks, looks like that is a modem/router combo. You would need to disable the router portion of that and the deco could run as the router. Or you can run the deco in access point mode.
Any suggestions on connection with Spectrum Fiber internet service? I’m switching from their router to the deco ax4300 and speeds are actually slower. I can’t find a contact for deco for help
I have 2 buildings around 35m away and I need to get internet over there! So I'm looking at a range... Planning to get xe75 as it is on sale for €373 for 3 nodes. But I'm not sure how it compare to Asus and what would be a similar products from Asus?
If i am to use a wired backhall option but connect all mesh hezds to the same original router (the one provided bu my isp, the main internet entry point to the house). How would that work? Because my current installation can allow me to do so but not wire all mesh together (exept if i decide de barry one mesh head in the basemend next to the main router)
If your internet is only 1GB, wouldn't you use the 2.5G ports on both devices for the wired backhaul configuration? At least then within locally it's fastest?
Yes, that would be the ideal solution. At least some LAN devices can take advantage of that, the ones capable of those speeds. Obviously the internet speeds would still be capped to gigabit speeds.
GREAT comparison....do you have a comparison for the X18 series? I found a W3600 ( 2 set) for $38 ( probably because of all the other faster mesh systems...I bought 2... can I use a 1 Gb switch to wire the other 3 into the main router.... ALSO, if I have other non 6 routers am I still able to use those ? Thank you again
Hello, your comparisons are great, I love the structured way you present it! One question about your Ethernet backhaul testing, why don’t you use a switch to interconnect the deco’s in the mesh? This would remove the 1Gbps limitation when having to use slower ports on the deco.
Thanks! The deco needs to be connected to the modem first, you can’t go modem to unmanaged switch to deco, so that’s why my server testing is done in the same manner. You can in theory connect your modem to the gigabit port (assuming your internet speeds are gigabit or below) of the deco then go from the 2.5Gbps port of that to a comparable switch then to another 2.5Gbps port of the Deco creating a 2.5Gbps LAN however your internet speeds will still be capped to gigabit. If your internet is faster than gigabit, then you have to use the 2.5Gbps port of the Deco therefore making anything coming out of it gigabit speeds.
@@landpet that’s indeed true with the deco in WiFi Router mode… I always use them in Access Point mode. I really don’t like the router functions. I prefer any other router/firewall… or OpenBSD ;-)
@@diederikschouten1756 When you use it in AP mode how is the AI handoff functionality? Right now I have two AP's in my house, one downstairs and one upstairs. My house isn't that big but I wanted good signal in my bedroom for geforce now as well as good signal downstairs. However, I am facing issues where clients will not switch between the AP's in an efficient manner. Im using Zyxel NWA50AX at the moment. I want to upgrade to WiFi 6E as I am getting symmetrical Gbit internet soon and the iPhone 15 should have 6E. I'd prefer to use my OPNsense router and have these in AP mode, but if I do this, will they run on different channels? I want them to run like a mesh, but hardwired.
@@iambenmitchell Your problem may be due to signal overlap. Ultimately, your end-user device decides which access point (AP) to connect to. To address this, try increasing the distance between the two routers. In AP mode, the routers still function as a mesh system with either wireless backhaul or hardwire. No they won't run on different channels. The best way to connect them is by going from the router to the switch and then to the APs (Deco). If you have the Decos with 2.5G ports, you can utilize the full capacity of your APs, regardless of the number you have.
@@iambenmitchell a couple days back when I saw your question I enabled Fast Roaming, before that time I was not using Fast Roaming and had not really had any need for it. After doing some tests in my house, walking around while streaming and such and checking my Wireless connection with a WiFi Scanner, I do notice faster switchovers with Fast Roaming enabled. I use a OpenBSD system as router and with the Deco system in AP mode, all AP's still run on the same channel. I have a fully hardwired mesh of 4 AP's.
Thankyou so much for this video. Earlier today i had ordered the x55. After realizing i had to do wireless backhaul, i upped it to the X68. Still budget but a better performer than x55 for wifi6. One day left on your code, but it wasnt accepted. Maybe because the 2pack was only $179, down from 280 MSRP.
@@landpet Ha - amazon cancelled my order. They must have erred on the price. Next day it was back available, for $250 ! LOL ! Went with the XE75 2pack for $235 - yep, cheaper than the X68 !
I bought tp link mesh network set for 600 Euro and then i found out that a have to pay extra money every month for decent parental control. This is deco set. Bought in 2023. I am crazy mad with tp link. I cannot control my daughters bedtime in the weekend. In the weekend she is allowed to be longer on her i pad. I have to pay een extra fee every month.
They still have good speed ratings. This question is the main reason I do these speed tests, sometimes there are surprises. I just report what I see from the testing.
@landpet I tried the netgear powerline and didn't have good results in a new home. I went with the 3 pack of the XE 75 PRO. I have gig speed fiber. Looking into wired backed thru coax wire next.
@@landpet can you mix like xe 75 with x20 on the same network? I suppose speed will be different. Also from what I saw it seems like there is minimal difference when you use wired backhaul when using dual band routers?
Can I only use one x20 as I just need a stronger signal at one end of my house? For example can I connect the x20 via Ethernet from my modem which is at the other end? Thanks for the great video
Hi Lanpet,just wondering if you have any advice on fibre broadband. Like what leads do you have too use & what there called. Regarding using Lan ports on modem. Do you have too use all different kinds of leads now,can you no longer use ethernet, are the ports on the back of the modem smaller they look smaller. Have you any advice regarding fibre & how or what's different from normal rj45 cables,. Thank you in advance Lanpet.
So I currently use fiber which connects to my ONT. The ONT is basically a modem in a sense and from there ethernet goes to my mesh system so it's really just the ONT that's required and your ISP should provide that for you. From there it should just be ethernet cables. SFP is an alternative to Ethernet cables. They are fiber cables but I don't use those because I don't really need to use those. Ethernet is more than good enough and much easier and just more compatible with everything.
I just bought an X20 set and I don't want to make it my main router. It only offers a 1GHz dual core processor. The router I have now is much better. I just want to use them as access points. Is it possible to keep my old router (not deco compatible) and use them as access points?
Yes, there's an option in the deco app in the advanced section to run it in Access point mode. Personally, I don't pay attention to the processor, I pay attention to the speed rating, the ports it supports and the number of bands it has.
@landpet. Great video. I have an older home with metal roof and aluminum siding. Satellite internet is the only option at the moment (100-150mbps at best). I'm looking at one of these mesh systems for internet TV and to control cameras and a few smart devices. I will try to run wired connections to as much as possible. Is there an outdoor rated access point? My concern is the aluminum siding will interfere with outdoor devices. Cell reception is also poor, so wifi on the patio etc would be great. Would Xe75 be the best option?
Thanks! I haven't reviewed this but I may go with the Deco PX50 (amzn.to/43ktgFq) and they have a dedicated outdoor unit called the X50 outdoor (amzn.to/3rissDx) From the ones that I have reviewed, for the price XE75 is the best.
Hi, I have two storey house (450sqm all up) with some black spots, using wireless backhaul on the 2nd storey, would you recommend getting 3pack X50 or 2 pack x68 or 2pack X75(not pro)? Main Router located in the garage front of house. Thanks
Your house is large, two is not enough for you to have plenty coverage around. From the choices you provided, I would go with the 3 pack X55 but what you really need at a minimum is a 3 pack XE75 (maybe even 4 pack) to have plenty of strong coverage around. If money is no object, I would recommend the Deco BE85 (3 pack) for fastest and strongest performance around.
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What about for ps5 fios? Thanks
Can I add the TP link AX 1800 to my existing system AC 1200? Are they compatible?
Eero or tp which is better
Cordial correction: The XE75 does indeed allow you to utilize the 6Ghz band for BOTH backhaul AND Wi-Fi client connection simultaneously. You can select this feature from the menu option shown in this video @ time code 15:26 by selecting "Wi-Fi Network & Backhaul". I've been using mine in this configuration for nearly 2 years and it works spectacularly! I have lots of WiFi networks around me but I'm the only one with a 6E network. Great comparison overall though! 😊
Backhaul 6G out of the box works beautifully - ripped out all my powerline ethernet backhaul.
This was honestly the best video for Deco people ever. You did a really great job with very meaningful benchmarks. I thought I would be happy with my X20, but after seeing the video, I instantly bought the 2 node XE75 Pro for $229 on Black Friday. Good job and thank you.
Thank you! Comparison videos really make it easier to see the differences.
Absoloutly the best comparison i've seen! Thanks for the clarification with the wonderful charts! Keep up the great work!
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome comparison video! Thank you for all the effort you put into the charts. I just bought a 2-pack of the X55s last week, and love them already, even though they're on the lower end in your review. They're great in my duplex environment, and give me signal three units down the street!
It's a great system, glad to hear it's working out for you
Also X55 is ready for IoT with the new 1.2.0 firmware, I have 3 houses running a pair on each and god, they´re the best bang for the buck.
Haven´t finished the video yet and I already need to congratulate for the excellent explanation of the wired/wireless back-haul and also the speed test with local/external servers. So many reviews that simply don't focus on these matters. Thank you. This is helping so much on my decision to buy a Wifi Mesh Pack.
Ps. one of the review videos I saw said the product was excellent because the wifi was at full power ( wifi icon with all the bars) but then the actual speed to the internet test was like 10% of the possible real speed. Guess what, the wireless back-haul was in stress because of the distances. And obviously they couldn't figure it out why.
I appreciate it!
Wifi can be misunderstood because it's interchangeably used in place of internet. Wifi actually has nothing to do with the Internet, wifi is only referring to your connection between your device and a router or node. You may have a very strong connection to a node that might have a weak connection to the main router which will reduce your internet speeds as you mentioned. Another common thing that is misunderstood is megabytes per second vs megabits per second.
NOW THIS IS A REVIEW! Jeez my man, just there answering my questions before i even knew i had em. Great video and breakdown. You got a sub!
I appreciate it! Thanks for subbing!
I just bought 4 x50's and I LOVE IT!
The deco app is easy to use too!
I just wish I could move devices to other Devos easier than the way it is now.
That's great!
It automatically picks which one the devices connect to.
@landpet I know and it works fine for my phone, but I want my smart home items to use a specific one. But they are all named similar🫠 and I had to disconnect that deco to move it, and now they're connected to the 1 that's 1 floor down hahah
My first entry into mesh. I bought the ax3000 with 3 x55 units. Such an easy setup. I initially have setup with wireless backhaul but my home actually has wired cat 5 to my critical rooms. My internet speed is around 300 Mbps down, so I am wondering if I should use wired backhaul on my 2 satellites and if it is worth the effort considering my actual internet speed is right around where your tests show that wireless would be. Great review and tests, much appreciated.
I would go wired if you can. The wireless backhaul speeds are relative, they will be slower if you have slower internet speeds
@@landpet Yep, I checked speed at the X55 router and it was full 300, at the two satellites it was 50 using wireless backhaul. Checked cables in the house and they are 5e so I connected one of the router Gigabit ports to the house and then connected the other 2 Mesh units to the distributed 5e. Now full 300 when checked at all nodes. Thanks for this great video and tips.
FANTASTIC and informative...definitely helps me know that for my 1GB network w wireless backhaul that my short listing of the XE75 is spot on! Off to see what other relevant videos you have on your channel. THANKS!
Glad it was helpful!
silly question why do you not Ethernet connect each Hub back to the routers Ethernet ports or Switch / hub which in my case is a 100gig switch.....instead of daisy changing and slowing each wifi down?.daisy changing puts them in series whare as the Ethernet back to the router / switch puts them in par allow? and in theory be much faster....as I would hope the mesh would then load shair at a wifi level and the each Ethernet conection would take the strain for the back to the internet loading?
Do you have any videos on the most effective placement of mesh network in the home? Im running the Deco S4 mesh network and the range isn’t great or top end speeds and I’ve tried different placements. Thanks for the video
Thank you for your videos! After getting 10 Gbps Fiber internet, I went in a tailspin and tried so many routers and mesh solutions. Very frustrated with Asus's buggy and eyesore AXE16000. Netgear RAX3000 wifi wasn't strong enough in the back of the house (old 1940s house with lath and plaster walls). Your mesh comparisons helped me give a try to Tp-link Deco XE75 Pro, a brand I never considered. I am now a convert. I just works, like Eero but with much better performance and less push for Amazon's things. Since I have 10 Gbps, I want more more more... I am going to skip the Deco XE2000 and pre-ordered the BE95 as I would love to have WiFi 7 used for Wireless backhaul between the living room and the bedroom+office in the back. Yes it is expensive but I am saving quite a lot of money since I cut the cord so I am justify it that way ;)
Good luck with the race to 100K subscribers!
The JimmyZ, do you think the BE95 will be better than the Orbi? I am trying to decide. Thank you so much!
Thanks! Yup the Deco’s are very good. Very good choice on the BE95. I’m also curious about that one, going to try to get my hands on that as well.
@@landpet March 15!
@@stefan5726 I am going all in with TP-link, but every house is different.
Best 20 min spent! Been researchen for two days, I should hav just seen this!
TP-Link does have a ton of models and I was hoping this video would clear some things up.
@@landpet Thank you, went with XE75! Works like a charm.
For the range tests, the distance parameter, is this from the closest node in a 3 pair setup? Or from the telco router on which the main node is connected? My office is let's say 30m away from the telco router, what if I put 3 nodes in between with a wireless backhaul, do I need to look at the 15m download speed test or the 30m download speed test?
An ISP-provided router failure propelled me into a TPLink X3000 3-unit mesh. Had no idea how well this would work but setup was easy and I am pretty pleased so far. My question is around something that appears on the app when I select a connected client. It says "Family Member" with a ">" arrow. Selecting it goes to a screen that says "No profile". Once there it is a dead-end with no means to create a profile showing only a frowny face. I cannot seem to find any information about what this is nor how to create profiles. I presume this allows classification of connectivity options and such. Any ideas about what this is? [Thanks]
Thanks for this amazing and informative video. I did learn a lot, also removed the X55 in my cart and added one from your link (you are welcome lol). But also, I may just go for the X20 lol. I want to do wireless backhaul on a budget. Yikes! I'm in trouble.
Glad it was information and thank you!
Great video, thanks for the info. I have the X50 pack of three which is working fine but struggling to get to the second floor. Thinking of adding a more powerful unit. Where would you place it, closer to the router, somewhere in between or the farthest away? Thanks!
Built a new 1 level house. Knowing that it would be a larger foot print I ran some CAT 6e to key places, including the further walls so that I could extend the wifi with wire. I have Deco X55 and all work great by linking them with wire. Problem I see is that my desktop that uses hard wire is now much slower than it was when using my xfinity router/modem plugged into switch. I have set my xfinity modem to bridge mode and here is my setup...
xfinity -> main deco -> switch : I get great wireless speed (850 down/125 up). Wired I get 425/75. Before deco I was:
xfinity -> switch : I got wireless about 700/100, but wired I'd get 900+/125+.
What am I doing wrong?
Just bought the xe75 pro with your discount code. Great reviews! Would like to see some updates and maybe deeper dives into the options in setting for best performance. Is beam forming and fast switch settings important to have set a specific way?
Thanks! It’s preferred to have both of those enabled but some IoT devices may not connect right away (you may need to reset those IOT devices and reconnect in the case they don’t work) so just as a heads up. Those are really the only settings and the 6GHz dedicated backhaul that are going to make a difference.
Super video. In my area, my internet plan is 940 down/35 up. Looking at getting the x4300 pro system to replace my current router. I bought a great netgear (rax70) but it has been nothing but a headache. excited to try that 4300 pro system.
Another helpful video!!! Question... My 10 year old house is wired with Cat5 ethernet cable. If I use three TP nodes with a wired backhaul network, would it be pointless to buy a wifi 6 or 6E system, as the ethernet cables could not handle the speed? Or should I just use 6E on a wireless backhaul network??
Also... how can I tell if my device (iphone 14, LG TV, Macbook Pro) are 6E devices? Is that info somewhere in the device setting?
Thanks!
Thanks, I was going to get the X20 but after your review I think I'll look at the XE75!!!
XE75 is great
GOD BLESS YOU! I JUST GOT THE XE75 PRO BASE ON YOUR COMPARISONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR MOST HELPFUL VIDEO!!
Does the xe53 work with xfinity 8?
they should all be compatible
Thank you for the fantastic review! Your thorough process and testing really shine through in the final conclusion. Much appreciated! I purchased the TP-Link Deco AXE5400 Tri-Band WiFi 6E Mesh System (Deco XE75 Pro) from your link above. Looking forward to having a better system with way less buffering. Cheers!!
Glad it was helpful! and that is a great mesh system!
Just found your channel, loving the technical breakdowns and all the hard work you are putting in to test this equipment. I ordered the TP-Link X75 Pro, thanks for the 10% off code!
I wasn't even considering TP Link before visiting this channel. I was more leaning toward the Amazon Eero as I thought it was basically just between Amazon and Netgear for Wifi 6E mesh networks. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for the feedback! The Deco is a great unit.
Awesome review! I have an old Google mesh from 2018 which still works. Now than I have the Verizon home 5g network which of the Deco would work the best for this setup?? 6e or 6?
XE75 should be good
Great comparison.. where does the W7100 fit in the lineup, seems to be very similar to the X68.
I just can’t get these speeds and will never understand why. For instance, where he got ~900mbps down with the 75pro and a WiFi 6 device, single router, local test, I get maybe 700 or often less. This was a test with no other clients connected to a new xe75 pro. I’m in a residential neighborhood with brick 3500 sq ft homes or above. I can barely pick up on other 5GHZ ssids. Local speed test server is connected via lan.
Hello. Thank you for all of your videos. I recently replaced my Orbi RBK50 (with 2 Satellites) with the Deco XE75 (3pack). I have AT&T Fiber (1GB) internet home service. I am running the Deco 75 as my router with the other two as Satellites and wireless backhaul. I have disabled the wifi on the AT&T gateway so I can use the Deco as the router, I am finding that the Deco does not seem to be as stable as the older RBK50 and doesn't seem to have quite the range as the older ORBI RBK50. Would you recommend using the AT&T gateway as the router instead of the DECO? Just looking for some ideas as I would think the newer Deco should be more stable and give better range than a very old Orbi system. Thank you.
I am unsure about which one to buy between x20 and x55, there is there is not much price difference, i would be using decos with ethernet backhaul, i feel x55s don’t offer much over x20s. Please recommend something. I have a 500Mbps connection at my place and I use around 30 IOT devices like lights and fans.
X20 is fine if you're running wired backhaul
I had deco x55 , when using 2ghz for wyze cameras, connection always dropping, I turn off mesh, QoS, but signal still not improving, I tried few hours of configuration but still no hope, cameras are less than 15 feet..I am thinking returning the product
I hear with the latest firmware that the x50 supports openvpn. Is this correct? Do any of the others support openvpn? Really wanting to confirmed a vpn with my mesh system. Thanks!
Question: how to start with a mesh system ? I have a normal router (with wifi) and 4 output ports, that I currently use - If I replace my router with one of the mesh system then I have a limit of ethernet ports so do i first have a switch from my modem and then use one output to the mesh system or ???
I explain everything here: ua-cam.com/video/QVKRQDokkhE/v-deo.html
short answer is you go modem -> deco -> switch
Great comparison !
I don't understand why the xe75pro has a better range than the xe75, I thought the only difference was the 2.5GHz ethernet port... Any ideas ?
I'm looking for the best solution to provide WiFi to my upper floor from where I get no signal with my current router, thus I'm looking for the best possible range as I want to use a wireless backhaul.
Thanks! The range was pretty close, in theory it should be the same but you never know.
What does "range" mean? Is this the distance to the nearest mesh device when testing with the target device (i.e. mobile phone)? Is it also the distance from which the mesh devices can be placed from each other?
Range means, I walk away from one node u til I no longer get a signal
VERY helpful video. Loved that you were comparing local network speeds. I have a Plex server, so this is important for streaming high bandwidth Remuxes on multiple devices. I also don't have my home hardwired with Ethernet. So smart that you made recommendations based on individual uses. THANK YOU!!! You have a new subscriber. P.S. I was leaning toward the X55, but now I'm going to go with the XE75.
Thanks for the feedback! Appreciate it! XE75 is amazing for the price, still my favorite for the price.
How does you Plex server do with Deco? It never allows full speed connections outside of my house. I've tried pretty much everything.
I just got fiberoptic in my area. I got the Deco EX5300 and my speeds are mediocre at best. I am paying for 1gb but am getting 385 Download and 486 upload speeds. any tips on how I can fix this? Should I get another Deco tower, to add the already two that came with the package?
I’m having similar issues with my fiber service and just purchased the deco AX4300 and my speeds are actually slower. I have spectrum and maybe it’s the connection from their modem to my router. Did you end up getting your issue resolved with the deco router?
The deco helped but speeds are still not where they should be. I was told, by my a techy friend, that I need to update my modem and not use the stock modem that came with the service switch. I haven’t gotten around to that yet, but when I do, I’ll lyk.
For the 3 port: I wonder if you can use one for WAN, and 2 ports for backhaul to get 2 Gb local.
I just got a pair of XE75.
Plan to use 6E backhaul for now, as I have no 6E device.
Possibly I'll pull some twisted pair through an empty conduit later.
For now, I just needed to replace my old (single point) WiFi-router, because it occasionally dropped out, and local communication and device discovery was very buggy.
Wanted 6 GHz backhaul to avoid interference with 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz in neighborhood, and to delay wired backhaul until I want to utilize 6E for device connection.
I don’t think it supports LAN aggregation
@@landpet I just ditcher my ~10 yo. Asus RT-AC66U 802.11ac router.
Speed was never a problem, I guess I can live without Link Aggregation, at "only" 1 Gb 🙂
Only problem with my old router was:
- rang; some devices struggled to stay connected
- device detection; sometimes devices was undetectable, and everything had to restart.
I wanted to wait for WiFi 6E to get 6 MHz, because I'm in range WiFi of about 10 different neighbors (half of them just briefly detectable)
the most complete review I've seen on Deco devices so far!!!!! Thank you!!!!
You're very welcome!
Once you have the mesh set up does that mean that all your devices need to connect to the mesh? For example, my back yard security camera uses a very weak WiFi signal - so should I connect it to the mesh or does all your devices automatically connect to the mesh?
All devices will auto connect if you use the same wifi name and password. Both are case sensitive
Thank you for the advice I almost bought the wrong Mesh due to lack of knowledge. I search the web for an hours before I found your video with all the information I needed in "one place". I liked the explanation of the backhaul function.
Glad my video was useful! If you want to know about how to connect this stuff, I did a video with the Deco XE75 showing all connections, the general rule applies to any of the Deco's in this video: ua-cam.com/video/QVKRQDokkhE/v-deo.html
I've narrowed my choice down to the XE75 or XE5300. Looking at your video, the 5300 is much faster on the local test, but the 75 wins on every distance test. Why the difference? Does that put the 75 above the 5300, since there will be distance involved when placing them in a house? I'm just not sure how to interpret your results.
Thank you very much for the overview video. It is one of the best comparisons with test results I have seen for the Deco family.
Thanks!
I did the same video with newer models:
TP Link Deco Mesh WiFi Comparisons | X50-PoE, PX50, XE70 Pro, BE63, BE65 Pro, BE16000, BE85, BE95
ua-cam.com/video/m2MnLpjbuU0/v-deo.html
Does the wired backhaul mode works also if we connect both units to the modem directly via ethernet, instead of connecting the 2nd unit to the 1st unit which is connected to the modem?
Question: using wired backhaul, do they have to be wired directly to each other or can you use a network switch in between them for wired backhaul ???
Either way works and is still considered wired backhaul
Great video - I'm confused why the XE75 pro and non pro perform differently when everywhere I look says the only difference is the 2.5Gbe port.
Thanks, I just run the tests and procide the results. There really shouldn't be a difference other than the 2.5Gbps port but I just report my findings
Hi, nice comparison! Can you tell me if the X55 would be good for a brick wall apartment? Is the XE75 transmission much stronger than the X55 and more suitable for me, or is it about the same power as the X55? I understand well the other difference beteween those models, I am now concerned about the range and signal strength/penetration. Thanks!
XE75 should be better however here's another option altogether, you can try using a MoCA 2.5 adapter assuming you have coax cables throughout the walls. With this method, you can get the X55 and it would still be great. ua-cam.com/video/LsATjTMK5Uc/v-deo.html
@@landpetI have Ethernet cable through the walls to make a wired backhaul. My concern is not about the backhaul, but about the wifi performance itself from the decos to the mobile devices.
Whats the actual difference between Deco XE75 vs Deco XE5300 aside from the top display ? Which one is newer release ? Which one is better ?
XE75 is a tad bit better because in theory it's a tad bit quicker. But in a nutshell they're the same thing, came out around the same time.
Ive been happy with my X20 series but i have noticed u cant have separate 2.4 and 5ghz wifi ssid. Its both bands together. Not sure if its due to the mesh system and if tp-link will add this capability in future firmware.
Yes they cannot be separated
thanks mate! just what I needed to cut through the ridiculous amount of options. really good stuff.
No problem.
These are the new decos if you’re interested: TP Link Deco Mesh WiFi Comparisons | X50-PoE, PX50, XE70 Pro, BE63, BE65 Pro, BE16000, BE85, BE95
ua-cam.com/video/m2MnLpjbuU0/v-deo.html
Great video! I currently have 2 pack XE75. main deco is wired same 1 level floor and my other device is wireless in another room about 10-15 ft away. but I recently upgrade my Att fiber to 2gbps. So my question is.. to get most of my fiber speeds, do you think I should I purchase a Xe75 pro 1 unit, make is my main deco and utilize the 2.5 gbps port and my other 2 xe75 devices as wireless.? Will I get better speeds throughout the whole system.? Thank you.
Thanks! Yes, that would help with the speeds since the XE75 is limited to gigabit speeds.
For wired backhaul, does it matter if the secondary one isn't connected directly to the primary unit and instead goes through an ethernet switch first? Main unit will be downstair, connected directly to my router, I have an ethernet switch upstairs connected to the main router and from that switch I will connect the second one.
It doesn't matter, either way works. The only important note is that the deco router is connected directly to the modem. I also recently posted a deco xe75 setup guide where I talk about all the ways of connecting it. It applies to pretty much any mesh system.
I have TP Link P9? Set the ones with power line back haul. I’ve been pretty happy overall with the system but I hate the software as it’s very basic. I have no idea how well my power line backhaul is doing of if it’s using wireless, etc… just not enough information for me. I’m thinking of the Asus version of their power line mesh system.
Some models have disconnections in the wireless internet. Have you done a test on this?
I use them for a few weeks and none of these had drops in that short timespan
@@landpet in my country i have only tp link deco X60 and X50. Do you think i should buy one of these or should i buy xe75 pro or xe200 from abroad?
Hi!
I have a house that has a ground floor, first floor and second floor and utp cables are routed through. The router is located on the first floor. The connection would be 1000/500Mbps. Is it possible to connect one node (for the ground floor) with utp to the main router and another node (for the second floor) with utp to the main router? So they are not mesh wifi, but would be access points? Would x55 be ok? Thanks!
Will i have a benefit when i wire the Most away with the next nearest deco but not the Main? So the Main will be Wireless and the other two will be wired together? With one of them nearer to the Main?
Anytime you use wired backhaul, it will typically be better than wireless backhaul even if you are mixing and matching. The goal is to typically use wired backhaul when possible.
In the wired backhaul local test section, if the main router connect to its satellite with both their fastest ports(2.5G for XE200, XE75 pro and X4300 pro), then Wifi 6/6E Device should get more than 1000Mbps speed from satellite (assume the main router connect to your file server via 6/6E wifi or via 2.5G ethernet switch as well)? I am curious why we don't see more than 1Gbps speed here ?
This is going to be a long explanation, it might be easier if I make a video on it.
The simple answer is it's possible but only in an odd way, let's take the XE200. If you're home internet speeds are gigabit speeds or under, you could just plug your modem/ONT/etc to your gigabit port (instead of the 10Gbps) since all these Deco's have autosensing ports. Now if you do this, you can wired the 10Gbps to a 10Gbps switch and wire that to the other Deco 10Gbps switch. Now in this case, you can have LAN speeds of up to 10Gbps (assuming all your other hardware including cables support the speeds). However this will just speed up your LAN and not your Internet speeds. Your internet will be capped at Gigabit speeds because of your ISP and the Gigabit port on the Deco.
Now let's take another scenario, your internet speeds are 10Gbps, well you have to go from your Modem/ONT/etc to your 10Gbps port on your Deco XE200, the problem with that is that now coming out of the Deco (since there is only one fast port on it), you are coming out at gigabit speeds because that 10Gbps port is being utilized to be connected to the modem. So anything passed the point will be capped to gigabit speeds. Now there is a workaround, which I haven't tried, but in theory it is possible. You could get a managed switch that supports 10Gbps speeds and connect your Modem/ONT/etc. to your Managed Switch (not unmanaged switch which is what I refer to most of the time when I say switch and in my setup videos). Now assuming that managed switch is properly setup (since it will require configuration), you can then go directly from that managed switch to each deco's 10Gbps port enabling a 10Gbps LAN. Now this is a scenario where you need another expensive piece of equipment which is outside what the Mesh comes with so I omit these explanations. I omit a lot of other explanations as well in an effort to make the videos as short as possible while giving the meat of the data to help people make informed decisions.
BTW, this is one of my longest comment responses, and I do have to say that was a good question.
Hay, you are doing amazing videos!
I would like to check for your recommendation for mesh system for Apartment on the second floor and my garage (ground floor). The garage is 15-20 meters diagonally.
I am considering trying TP-Link Deco XE75, but if I can have your recommendation I would be grateful.
If I put 3 units around the house vs 10 units, will the internet speed drop the same amount at the farest unit?
Great, clear comparison!
For a home with wireless backhaul, how much of a difference does the amount of MIMO make? Eg XE75 vs XE200?
Depends on the receiving device but the xe200 is fantastic for sure, better than the XE75. The XE75 is also very good especially for the price but the xe200 is better.
Would you recommend buying the XE75 Pro 2 unit mesh system or 2 google nest pro 6e or 1 BE63 WiFi 7 for a 1,500 square foot single story home
From those choices, I would say the XE75 Pro 2 pack
debating going ethrenet to a wireless backhaul node, would any of them be more ideal than the others? theres a 3 pack of the w4500's on a great sale. I only have 1000 down 40 up, would those suffice? They would only be ~ 15 feet apart. Just trying to eliminate a cat6 cable run without losing too much ping/packets/bandwidth. Thank you!
Thanks for the effort put into the vid, very informative. What I'd like to know is how not so much about peak speeds, but how stable they are with multiple devices. I have about 35 WiFi devices in the house and I'm curious to know if a mesh system will help provide them all stable connections? I currently get -60db over 5GHz to my entire house, but my aging router keep dropping devices. Welcome your advice on stability and general speed when loaded up with multiple devices.
No problem. I have 60+ devices and all of these were fine with that.
Will the Deco X10 have similar range to the X20? The X20 is a lot more expensive here.
I'm on a budget. Would the x20 (3 pack) be a good choice for a 3,000 sq. ft. house . 3 levels, so one device per level.
Also, you mention the first unit needs to be connected straight to the modem, not a switch. SO, would I go from the modem to the X20 with Ethernet and then another ethernet back out of the x20 into my switch?
Yes, it would be fine (wired backhaul does perform much better) and yes that is how you would connect it. I have setup guide video on the xe75 which is basically the same you setup the x20 if you’re interested. ua-cam.com/video/QVKRQDokkhE/v-deo.html
X20 model is too much to my country standards! We just started to use wifi 5! Mainly, we just have enough with 2.4 wifi! The main concern is we use thick concrete walls : 6 ~ 10 inches average thick (there're thickers). How many units can we add to a mesh network?
Do you recommend some other models?
Note: average ISP internet speed is 20 Mbps, maybe lower. Higher or top speeds are around 100 Mbps, at some counted cases, less than 1000/4000000 of users, could be 200 Mbps, pretty rare those "high" speeds.
What did you end up doing? Look into the Deco M4, M4, S7 or X10. Avoid the E10 models.
@@xhivo97 I bought the X55 with 3 units. At home worked at average speed, not high, not so low. At office, with 5 units, with less than 10 meters one of the other, some marked 9 mbps or even 1.2 mbps. Main unit marked 200 mbps.
hi, thanks for the video, I'm using right now the m9 plus 3 pack and I want to change it. they are connected between them over wifi and I would very much like your help to select which one can replace them and even be better. I have two story house with concrete walls so I need 3 packs and I would prefer tri band of course.
which one do you think will be a good pick to replace the m9 plus ?
Also, I understand the the x20 has no option to connect the nodes over wifi
hi there landpet, will you be doing a tp-link Wifi 7 mesh deco BE95 review? thank you so much for all your hard work.
Most likely, at least one of the WiFi 7's from tp link. Hopefully all, we'll see.
@@landpet That's great to hear, I've had the x20 and tested other for my family since 2020 and recently got a NAS with 10gbe capabilities. Really interested on their Deco BE95 local speed tests. Love your videos and trust them a lot. They are on pre-order on Amazon but will def wait for your review just to get a better idea if it is worth my money based on your numbers (since I already know how your tests compare with mine based on my own tests with similar decos lol)
There’s also a deco x10 but it’s not sold anymore. For someone with 500 spectrum that’s the cheapest and best option cuz paying extra for the expensive model won’t make sense with 500
Great video! I just bought a 3-pack set of X55 and absolutely loving it
Your are in a unique position to do a test for compatibility.
TP-Link has indicated that the mesh system allows for mixing the deco routers.
That, unfortunately, has not been my experience.
I could not get my old TP-Link AC1200 to work with my newer Deco X60.
That could be user error.
When you make a large investment and new Decos become available, the question is - can one actually purchase 1 of the new Decos and integrate with the existing mesh system.
Depending, too, on the new Deco purchase, it may be a wise move to make it the main router and and the "old" mesh devices the satellites.
Do you have any testing of this sort?
I do see the option to add decos but I haven't mixed them. You are correct, to link does mention that.
How did you set it up?
I would factory reset your ac1200, connect the x60 as your main, so set that up first then within the deco app, add your ac1200.
You can also reach out to tp link
Thank you for the awesome review. I'm looking at gettingbtje XE75 Pro as I have Telus fibre at 1.5gigs up and down. Was also looking at the Orbi too but I'm sold on the Deco now.
If you’re going wireless backhaul, the XE75 Pro is a good choice. If you are going wired backhaul, I would get the Deco X55 Pro since that has 2 fast ports
The newest Deco is the X55 Pro, which is Wifi 6 but has two (2) 2.5 gig ports. I'm really conflicted on whether to get this and have Wifi 6 be the bottleneck, or to go for the XE75 Pro with 6E but be bottlenecked by the 1 gig port (for my desktop computer, which is connected to the AP running wireless backhaul). Assuming ISP is not a factor, which would you recommend?
Based on these results, the performance of the X4300 on wireless feels like what I'll see in the X55 Pro, in which case I feel like the XE75 Pro is the better choice.
If you’re running wired backhaul, go with the X55 Pro. If you’re running wireless backhaul and have faster speeds than gigabit, I would get a more expensive system that has 2 fast ports but also has good wireless speeds like the Asus ET12 or if money is no object, go with the Deco Be85
Can you string the routers in more a line Dedicated Router--Router--Router? I notices most the diagrams show the dedicated router only connecting to one other router Router---Dedicated---Router. Reason I ask is i live in a more rectangular house than a square. Thank you!
If you get a 3 pack Deco system, you connect one of the routers to the modem. You can connect the other two either directly to the deco router or you can connect them one after another.
Modem > deco 1 > deco 2 > deco 3
Great video, question, if you use wired backhaul, If I have 2 satellites and a main, will both satellites come to the main by a small switch so it can detect which one is being accesed?
You can connect it that way. I have a whole setup guide here going over all the ways to connect: ua-cam.com/video/QVKRQDokkhE/v-deo.html
Does anyone know if the XE5300 will let you create a separate IOT network like the XE75? They're pretty similar, but that doesn't show up on the site.
Great video - thank you. If I have an Xfnity gateway (XB6-T), will the TP-Link Deco AXE5400 Tri-Band WiFi 6E Mesh work well? Do I still need the Xfinity gateway?
Thanks, looks like that is a modem/router combo. You would need to disable the router portion of that and the deco could run as the router. Or you can run the deco in access point mode.
Any suggestions on connection with Spectrum Fiber internet service? I’m switching from their router to the deco ax4300 and speeds are actually slower. I can’t find a contact for deco for help
Can you add an outdoor unit to the xe75 and still use the dedicated wireless band ?
I don’t know about that, the outdoor unit would need the 6GHz band for sure but even than, I’m not sure
Hi, what you recomend for home 3 level, internet is 125/125. Just Wifi in house maybe connect TV , or 1 router
XE75 is good
@@landpet Thank you i going to check and when you compare it with X50 ?
I have 2 buildings around 35m away and I need to get internet over there! So I'm looking at a range... Planning to get xe75 as it is on sale for €373 for 3 nodes. But I'm not sure how it compare to Asus and what would be a similar products from Asus?
ASUS XT9 is also good but 35m is far. You may need to either get a bridge or get an outside Deco X50 Outdoor unit to help with that.
@@landpet so X50 will work together with xe75? But than I will not get that 6e on a 2nd node right?
@@MrEndijsGcorrect
@@landpet thanks for help ✌️
If i am to use a wired backhall option but connect all mesh hezds to the same original router (the one provided bu my isp, the main internet entry point to the house).
How would that work?
Because my current installation can allow me to do so but not wire all mesh together (exept if i decide de barry one mesh head in the basemend next to the main router)
If your internet is only 1GB, wouldn't you use the 2.5G ports on both devices for the wired backhaul configuration? At least then within locally it's fastest?
Yes, that would be the ideal solution. At least some LAN devices can take advantage of that, the ones capable of those speeds. Obviously the internet speeds would still be capped to gigabit speeds.
GREAT comparison....do you have a comparison for the X18 series? I found a W3600 ( 2 set) for $38 ( probably because of all the other faster mesh systems...I bought 2... can I use a 1 Gb switch to wire the other 3 into the main router.... ALSO, if I have other non 6 routers am I still able to use those ? Thank you again
Thanks! Supposedly, all Deco's are compatible with each other so you can wire them to each other. I would use the best device as your main router.
@@landpet TY
Hello, your comparisons are great, I love the structured way you present it!
One question about your Ethernet backhaul testing, why don’t you use a switch to interconnect the deco’s in the mesh? This would remove the 1Gbps limitation when having to use slower ports on the deco.
Thanks!
The deco needs to be connected to the modem first, you can’t go modem to unmanaged switch to deco, so that’s why my server testing is done in the same manner. You can in theory connect your modem to the gigabit port (assuming your internet speeds are gigabit or below) of the deco then go from the 2.5Gbps port of that to a comparable switch then to another 2.5Gbps port of the Deco creating a 2.5Gbps LAN however your internet speeds will still be capped to gigabit. If your internet is faster than gigabit, then you have to use the 2.5Gbps port of the Deco therefore making anything coming out of it gigabit speeds.
@@landpet that’s indeed true with the deco in WiFi Router mode… I always use them in Access Point mode.
I really don’t like the router functions. I prefer any other router/firewall… or OpenBSD ;-)
@@diederikschouten1756 When you use it in AP mode how is the AI handoff functionality? Right now I have two AP's in my house, one downstairs and one upstairs. My house isn't that big but I wanted good signal in my bedroom for geforce now as well as good signal downstairs. However, I am facing issues where clients will not switch between the AP's in an efficient manner. Im using Zyxel NWA50AX at the moment. I want to upgrade to WiFi 6E as I am getting symmetrical Gbit internet soon and the iPhone 15 should have 6E.
I'd prefer to use my OPNsense router and have these in AP mode, but if I do this, will they run on different channels? I want them to run like a mesh, but hardwired.
@@iambenmitchell Your problem may be due to signal overlap. Ultimately, your end-user device decides which access point (AP) to connect to. To address this, try increasing the distance between the two routers.
In AP mode, the routers still function as a mesh system with either wireless backhaul or hardwire. No they won't run on different channels.
The best way to connect them is by going from the router to the switch and then to the APs (Deco). If you have the Decos with 2.5G ports, you can utilize the full capacity of your APs, regardless of the number you have.
@@iambenmitchell a couple days back when I saw your question I enabled Fast Roaming, before that time I was not using Fast Roaming and had not really had any need for it.
After doing some tests in my house, walking around while streaming and such and checking my Wireless connection with a WiFi Scanner, I do notice faster switchovers with Fast Roaming enabled.
I use a OpenBSD system as router and with the Deco system in AP mode, all AP's still run on the same channel. I have a fully hardwired mesh of 4 AP's.
Thankyou so much for this video. Earlier today i had ordered the x55. After realizing i had to do wireless backhaul, i upped it to the X68. Still budget but a better performer than x55 for wifi6. One day left on your code, but it wasnt accepted. Maybe because the 2pack was only $179, down from 280 MSRP.
No problem, yeah it might be that, great price
@@landpet Ha - amazon cancelled my order. They must have erred on the price. Next day it was back available, for $250 ! LOL ! Went with the XE75 2pack for $235 - yep, cheaper than the X68 !
I bought tp link mesh network set for 600 Euro and then i found out that a have to pay extra money every month for decent parental control. This is deco set. Bought in 2023. I am crazy mad with tp link. I cannot control my daughters bedtime in the weekend. In the weekend she is allowed to be longer on her i pad. I have to pay een extra fee every month.
When using mesh wifi would we connect to the new wifi created for all devices?
Yes
How are routers like the X4300 Pro getting better results with 6e devices, when they're not 6e compatible routers?
They still have good speed ratings.
This question is the main reason I do these speed tests, sometimes there are surprises. I just report what I see from the testing.
Do you find dedicating the 6ghz band to wireless backhaul to be faster than the TP mesh systems with the power line option?
I haven't tried powerline. I did get that drco though so I'll find out next month.
@landpet I tried the netgear powerline and didn't have good results in a new home. I went with the 3 pack of the XE 75 PRO. I have gig speed fiber. Looking into wired backed thru coax wire next.
Great video,which is better for A 35k ft home ,x20 or xe75 in general.Thanks
Awesome ! Is it possible to mix different models in the same mesh?
Yes you can mix wired and wireless backhaul
@@landpet can you mix like xe 75 with x20 on the same network? I suppose speed will be different.
Also from what I saw it seems like there is minimal difference when you use wired backhaul when using dual band routers?
@@kennethou1093 you can mix Deco's, and yes if you use wired backhaul, then something less powerful is typically the way to go
Can I only use one x20 as I just need a stronger signal at one end of my house? For example can I connect the x20 via Ethernet from my modem which is at the other end? Thanks for the great video
Yes, you can use one deco x20 by itself via ethernet to your modem
What would you advise for wireless external coverage for robot lawnmower on 2.4ghz?
Something would good range like the XE75 Pro or XE200
Hi Lanpet,just wondering if you have any advice on fibre broadband. Like what leads do you have too use & what there called. Regarding using Lan ports on modem.
Do you have too use all different kinds of leads now,can you no longer use ethernet, are the ports on the back of the modem smaller they look smaller.
Have you any advice regarding fibre & how or what's different from normal rj45 cables,. Thank you in advance Lanpet.
So I currently use fiber which connects to my ONT. The ONT is basically a modem in a sense and from there ethernet goes to my mesh system so it's really just the ONT that's required and your ISP should provide that for you. From there it should just be ethernet cables. SFP is an alternative to Ethernet cables. They are fiber cables but I don't use those because I don't really need to use those. Ethernet is more than good enough and much easier and just more compatible with everything.
I just bought an X20 set and I don't want to make it my main router. It only offers a 1GHz dual core processor. The router I have now is much better. I just want to use them as access points. Is it possible to keep my old router (not deco compatible) and use them as access points?
Yes, there's an option in the deco app in the advanced section to run it in Access point mode.
Personally, I don't pay attention to the processor, I pay attention to the speed rating, the ports it supports and the number of bands it has.
@landpet. Great video. I have an older home with metal roof and aluminum siding. Satellite internet is the only option at the moment (100-150mbps at best). I'm looking at one of these mesh systems for internet TV and to control cameras and a few smart devices. I will try to run wired connections to as much as possible. Is there an outdoor rated access point? My concern is the aluminum siding will interfere with outdoor devices. Cell reception is also poor, so wifi on the patio etc would be great. Would Xe75 be the best option?
Thanks!
I haven't reviewed this but I may go with the Deco PX50 (amzn.to/43ktgFq) and they have a dedicated outdoor unit called the X50 outdoor (amzn.to/3rissDx)
From the ones that I have reviewed, for the price XE75 is the best.
Hi, I have two storey house (450sqm all up) with some black spots, using wireless backhaul on the 2nd storey, would you recommend getting 3pack X50 or 2 pack x68 or 2pack X75(not pro)? Main Router located in the garage front of house. Thanks
Your house is large, two is not enough for you to have plenty coverage around. From the choices you provided, I would go with the 3 pack X55 but what you really need at a minimum is a 3 pack XE75 (maybe even 4 pack) to have plenty of strong coverage around. If money is no object, I would recommend the Deco BE85 (3 pack) for fastest and strongest performance around.