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Yes, depending on the draft capital. Would like to see an OL or Pass Rusher in Rd1 and Rd2 then QB in Late 2nd or 3rd that fits Stephanski’s style of play.
You say that and yet you know who comes to mind? Joe Thomas. Going into that draft, everybody was talking up Brady Quinn and Adrian Peterson and how we had to have one or the other. But there was one name I was laser focused on in that pool and that was Joe. I literally danced a jig in my living room when we took him. I could easily envision doing the same thing if we take one of your suggestions.
@ truthfully I know ALOT of people hate it but dudes just trying to secure his future and risking it in a “pop tart” bowl isn’t worth it MANY MANY players have sat out of their respective bowl games and it hasn’t effected their NFL play we need to stop critiquing the wrong things this is why we always get the qb position wrong but I do agree it sat negatively with everyone
@@randyschlupp4405 well brotha he has to give the nfl some kind of tape in the big moment ! He’s got everything we want in a qb gunslinger mentality he won’t be there after pick 3-4
I would be happy with an O lineman or 2 of them! Mason graham, abdul carter, will johnson, ashton jeanty, etc. we need to hit on these picks and start winning damnit!!! If we trade back and get extra picks 🔥 #GoBrowns
Are you being for real dude? Have you watched DTR? He’s a joke. He can’t even fucking get the end zone. How is he gonna win Super Bowl? You gotta be joking, right?
Neither Ward, nor Sanders look good to me. As much as it pains me, I would look for QB in free agency. I know nothing great is out there. But if we can get OKAY from the position, that is good enough. Jeanty looks like the only homerun pick on offense in the 1st. He reminds me of a faster MJD. Abdul Carter could look amazing paired with JOK (assuming he returns) I'm not falling for the Travis Hunter hype. Based on where the Browns draft right now.. and how many holes we potentially have. I'm a bit nervous about next year.
The only good QBs the Browns have drafted since the 80s are Bernie (and he helped the Browns manipulate the supplemental draft so he could be a Brown) and Baker Mayfield (and the Browns thought they were upgrading the QB position by replacing him with Watson). Seems that it’s a tradition that we can’t evaluate QBs. Remember Hue Jackson said he “felt the earth move” when he worked out RG3.
Yes you are right but Berry is dying for a great black QB and he will take him if we get the first pick he will bust like DTR but look what he did with Watson. He gave up the fucking form for Watson and all that money and look what’s happened. He picked DTR look what’s happened like it’s a joke. He’ll pick another bust qb
Path for the Cleveland Browns to get the #1 overall pick in the 2025 NFL Draft - Cleveland Browns (3-13) lose to Baltimore Ravens (11-5) in week 18 - Tennessee Titans (3-13) win over Houston Texans (9-7) in week 18 - New England Patriots (3-13) win over Buffalo Bills (13-3) in week 18
They should trade back a few spots gain another 2026 first from a team like the saints raiders or Giants and still get one of the best position players in this draft
If your Andrew Berry, you have to look at all potential quarterbacks in the draft this year and next year. Don’t reach for a player if he’s not ranked high. You can always get one next season. You can always get a bridge veteran player for next year
The Athletic Dane Brugler’s Big Board: - #1: Travis Hunter (WR/CB) - #2: Will Johnson (CB) - #3: Abdul Carter (OLB) - #16: Cam Ward (QB) - #23: Shedeur Sanders (QB)
Ward and sanders are not all that. If they got the #1 pick, they should trade down. It really doesnt matter where the browns pick. Berry has done a horrible job drafting. Personally, i would draft a left tackle in the first and go secondary in the second, and OL, DL or secondary in the third. Draft a quarterback next year.
Cam the Quitter and She-Dork (daddy's boy) aren't 1st round caliber QBs. They are bridge/backups at best. Which means Stefanski, AB, and DePo will reach for one in a desperate attempt to prolong their failing careers.
Trade down with the Raiders or Giants, including a 1st next year. Depending on placement, draft Carter (even though we're solid at edge) or Graham. I'd also entertain another trade down for Jeanty
I jsut hope they don’t go defense like every mock has them taking DL. I’d take Jeanty over than. Trade back from your first pick, pick up Jaden Milroe and try to pick up the other one somehow. We need a tackle, a starting RB and a QB in the first two days.
It doesn't matter if cle has the number one or number two pick. Patriots aren't taking a qb and while they may trade down with the giants we would definitely take Travis hunter. So either we get a qb or one of the most elite player in years- at two key positions. If we end up with the third well have one of the qbs and if we have the number 2 we'd have our pick. Things look up for us
We can’t possibly talking about taking a QB, can we?? The talent out there sucks but more importantly, this head office has an abysmal record of drafting and developing QB’s. No way I let Berry and Stefanski on this one. Let’s look at the track record: 0:34 1)Mayfield is run only to have a playoff season in TB 2) Watson - say no more 3) Flacco walks and replaced by Winston. Not sure how far Flacco takes you but the only thing Winston is winning is the interception race 4) Cut Huntley for DTR. DTR looks no better with another year under his belt while Huntley efficiently shreds Browns in lopsided win. Please, don’t pick a QB!
Guys were the Browns we have a t shirt over flowing with names of qb just like these guys. I like Cam Ward but we need to get as much young talent as possible then try and move up for Manning next year if possible the manning's haven't made a qb that didnt figure it out yet. I would give a kings ransom for that not gamble and miss out on great young top talent but have Bitonio retire and Ward and Myles ask to be traded then where we gonna be with one of these QB's???
I believe the only Value the No. 1 has to Us is Trade Value. We need an experienced QB that understands the Game on an NFL level, and more Importantly understands Our System.
Neither of the top quarterback prospects have top 10 grades. If they were in last year's draft or next year's draft they would be closer to the 2nd round. The Browns shouldn't reach. Trading down a few picks then pick the best player available.
If Money Mitch rips the Patriots apart they should trade a 6th round pick for him. Trade down to 4 draft TMac from Arizona and get a boat load of picks from Giants. He could be next years Darnold with Stud Receivers and stud TE.
Message to Browns fans from a college football fanatic and I mean fanatic. I don’t watch the NFL. Cam Ward is a guaranteed stud, Ashton Jeanty is a Stud. Media love affair with Colorado propped Shadeur up beyond his potential, he will be a serviceable backup. Media also destroys Miami Hurricanes players whenever they can because they hate that program. If you pass on Cam because of the media narrative and you really didn’t pay attention to the film you will regret it forever. Cam is ice cold under pressure situations, he has a canon, he is smart and studies the game, and he is a leader. Don’t buy into the bullshit pop tarts bowl narrative, it’s just haters and there is a lot of them. If you don’t take Cam, take Jeanty. He is a beast and should have won the Heisman.
If that's the case, go after a guy in FA. Don't just take a guy cause you need him but he isn't exactly what you want. The Browns have done that since they came back with very few promising results
@bcspiel This is not a team that is in a position to be competitive. There's too many question marks and holes around the roster and organization right now, and a lot of that is because the starting QB is taking up so much money and not playing the way he should. Probably won't even be available next year. Your star running back doesn't look the same since his injury. You only have one WR, maybe two with Jeudy and Tillman, and a lot of just guys. A TE that may or may not be here next year, depending on who calls and what they're willing to give for him. O Line has a lot of aging veterans beyond their prime and question marks at both OTs. Defense at least has some promise depending on who comes back next year, but it doesn't mean much if you can't score. You could look at Cousins or Darnold but Darnold is probably above what we can pay, and Cousins probably doesn't want to play outside in Cleveland unless the prospect of reuniting with his OCis too appealing to pass up. You could go get Fields or Wilson, but Wilson will probably stay in Pittsburgh. Fields wouldn't be a bad one year pick-up and probably your best bridge option for a young guy. The only other guys I can think of are Brissett, Heinicke, or Winston. Those are guys that can win you a few games but you're ceiling is probably .500 (probably the best chance to get a better guy next year). I just don't see them looking at this QB class and their roster and thinking one of those two "top" guys can turn things around. This draft has to be efficient. They need to draft the guys that will build the foundation for future success once the Watson contract is done and over with and all their aging veterans are out the door. If they don't think a QB early on is someone who can endure that, then they can't draft them.
@@Pnk_Rckr we will disagree on the state of the roster. They are good qb play away from eleven wins. They can compete next year. But none of the free agents you mention will win. I don't know if there is a rookie that will win, but if they evaluate one as a winner. They have to draft him.
@bcspiel If you truly believe this team is one position away from 11 wins, then you're drunk on Kool-aid. Even Garrett and Bitonio openly do not agree with you. Don't give me anything about last year. That's in the past. Many players and coaches that were part of that team are gone. You're in the toughest division in the league with the Steelers returning to relevancy and the Bengals battling their way back into the playoff conversation. We're the fourth best team in the conference, and sure we can split a series, but that's only two or three wins. We haven't shown that we can even compete against mid-level teams.
Tanking for picks is not what I'd like the Browns to do. There are plenty of good players in the draft. Pick one of them and save team dignity. Watch footage on Sanders, Ward, and Gabriel. Focus on highlights where they have to step up in the pocket and drive the ball into a WR off a read. Throw out runs, scrambles outside the pocket, soft touch like throws. Forget those plays. Now watch and none of them do it.
I would rather wait on a qb i would take somebody like Jackson Dart in the 2nd or preferably the 3rd round I would take Carter or Graham in the 1st and an O lineman in the 2nd preferably Josh Simmons
I don't see all this hype as relevant. It's unlikely both the Pats and the Titans win. Titans maybe. But whose to say they aren't trying to tank either? P.S. The snake oil salesmanship (and for that matter, the gambling adverts) are a real bad look.
Fella, neither Goff nor Wentz were considered the top of their class both went top 2. Wentz had MVP like season until injury but did get a SB ring, and Goff has been to the SB as well. Fact remains if you need a qb you take one. This draft is not EJ Manuel level bad. I think ppl have been spoiled with generational type terms thrown about for a few drafts. These are still two good prospects and would probably be the top two next year over everyone not named Arch (because of potential) so what are we saying. lol.
Absolutely no QB in round 1 draft either Riley Leonard, Will Howard, or Ewers later on. Ewers might go in round 2, but Howard and Leonard should be available in rounds 3-7.
You really believe the Pats and Titans are gonna try to win and lose draft position?! Stop the stupidity. BTW. you don’t want any part of Sanders. He’s not the next anything.
Petey u stop it !!!! 😂😂😂😂 Cam Ward is the most nonchalant , most poise QB in the country !!! I’m not saying he Andrew luck . But with the right pieces , the right protection. Cam Ward he curve a defense. Mark my words . #draftWard #gobrowns
are they even seriously talking about sander's son at QB lord these people drafting don't have a clue . just like the Laker's taken Labron's son how has that worked for the Laker's he play's in a b league basketball . cleveland already has three b and c league Q.S s why add a fourth ?
Wouldn't take Jeanty. He has a lot of mileage. You can find a quality guy in the second through fourth that can start instantly or year two at the worst. There are other needs, like Abdul Carter or OT, that should be explored before running back
@Pnk_Rckr the beauty of it is he doesn't have a lot of mileage he has under 1,000 carries in College. The threshold for high mileage is above 1,000 carries although some have still found success after Doing that. Ron Dayne is the 1 that made high mileage a thing but he just wasn't good enough.
@zombiegoatt4282 I just can't justify picking him that early. There's other guys you can draft later that will be just as effective while also getting a better prospect with your first pick (OL, DL, OT, CB). As long as it isn't QB really
@@zombiegoatt4282 You're tripping if you draft 2 QBs lmao. I get it, but you can sign a guy or two in FA and draft a QB. RB I could see since it's a stacked class lol
LMFAOOOO Bro Eagles traded for Wentz and went on to win a SB within 2 years while trading those picks, and browns got a bunch of trash and went 1-31 trying to load up on talent while passing on multiple qbs. This is why this org and fan base wont win anything. They want an Andrew Luck prospect #1 or trade down for assets and bpa. Those guys dont come around often. Lawrence was the last and he looks average. Burrow maybe but ppl wondered if it was a 1 year wonder. Team needs to draft a qb period. Might as well lock in Sanders or Ward now. Anything else would be a shock to me.
Lmao right as if we have any faith in Berry doing anything with these picks. We’re not going to get a Bears level haul anyway. You have to be aggressive and draft Ward/Shadeur. Imagine 2024 Browns with good QB play we’re a 8-10 win team. Now imagine us with Abdul Carter or Mason Graham…yeah zero difference in our record.
Honestly, people might disagree, but I have a feeling that sanders is the right choice. He has NFL hall of famer blood. He’s got the gene in him. Deon Sanders was a beast. I don’t think his son will be much different.
That and he has a lot of swagger. Ppl love to hate on him, but he did elevate every program he was at. He has an infectious personality that locker rooms respect. I wouldnt be upset at all. Least I know I'm getting a guy that will play his ass off and lives for football.
Schematically, he's the perfect fit for Stefanski's offense. Unfortunately, the drama he and his father created have made him untouchable for Cleveland. I believe they're trying to orchestrate a move to Las Vegas.
That, and I don't think We're in the Position to Develop a Rookie QB. We never really have been, that's why the only Rookie QB We've had to do anything at all was Baker.
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What? The Dumb Browns wouldn’t resign Mr good time Watson ?
No
No
Yes, depending on the draft capital. Would like to see an OL or Pass Rusher in Rd1 and Rd2 then QB in Late 2nd or 3rd that fits Stephanski’s style of play.
You are totally wrong about ward and sanders
Abdul Carter and Mason Graham are the two that make the most sense, they may not be sexy to people but those are the studs of this draft
You say that and yet you know who comes to mind? Joe Thomas. Going into that draft, everybody was talking up Brady Quinn and Adrian Peterson and how we had to have one or the other. But there was one name I was laser focused on in that pool and that was Joe. I literally danced a jig in my living room when we took him. I could easily envision doing the same thing if we take one of your suggestions.
Carter yes but no on Graham no offense but Michigan players never pan out in Cleveland for some reason Zinter is enough 😂😂for now 😂😂
@@CappyCorningAnd we had 1 winning season with the best LT of all time. Face it having a great QB is the only way to win in the NFL
Graham is an elite DT, the fact he played at Michigan doesn't mean anything, in fact suggesting it does is ridiculous
Or Travis hunter
What Browns should do is get the best available pass rusher in first rd ( A Carter). Then go get a OT, RB , and WR and get a QB late in the rds.
If you don’t think cam ward is that dude you might want to rewatch his season
@@Bigmacmadness that deciding not to play the 2nd half of his bowl game screwed him with alot of teams and his draft stock for that decision
@ truthfully I know ALOT of people hate it but dudes just trying to secure his future and risking it in a “pop tart” bowl isn’t worth it MANY MANY players have sat out of their respective bowl games and it hasn’t effected their NFL play we need to stop critiquing the wrong things this is why we always get the qb position wrong but I do agree it sat negatively with everyone
@@Bigmacmadness he should of just not played in the bowl game period and that would of been much more acceptable with people than what he chose to do
@@Bigmacmadness I'll tell ya what I like Cam and if he's there in rd2 the browns would be stupid not to draft him
@@randyschlupp4405 well brotha he has to give the nfl some kind of tape in the big moment ! He’s got everything we want in a qb gunslinger mentality he won’t be there after pick 3-4
I feel the Browns could trade the pick and get more... Too many needs for this team!!!
I would be fine with that but Berry won’t do that he will destroy this pick
I would be happy with an O lineman or 2 of them! Mason graham, abdul carter, will johnson, ashton jeanty, etc. we need to hit on these picks and start winning damnit!!! If we trade back and get extra picks 🔥 #GoBrowns
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@ he got alot of potential 🔥
Cam ward can make every throw from any angle. His arm is special.
No.... no it's not.
All I am going to say is put the tape on. Both of these guys are good enough to play in the NFL and have a lot of room for improvement and growth.
Will Howard in the 3rd round please
DTR is my man the real MVP of the NFL and could win every Super Bowl from now on and even Super Bowls from the past of your choice
Are you being for real dude? Have you watched DTR? He’s a joke. He can’t even fucking get the end zone. How is he gonna win Super Bowl? You gotta be joking, right?
I agree 100% with your analysis of the two leading QB picks.
We need to rebuild the offensive line first.
you trade down to mid round for extra 1 and 2 next year / dallas would be perfect trade bait
If they fall in love with Ward fine, Sanders is overrated, he's not a top ten talent, let someone else make that mistake
Stefanski, AB, and DePo should be fired because Vrabel won't reach on any of these mediocre QBs from this class.
They fell in love with Jonny Manziel and you seen how that turned out 😂😂😂
Y’all are crazy if you think Deion is gonna let his son go to Cleveland. Whether you think he’s overrated or not Cleveland is not the city for him.
Shitdoor sanders is a solid 5th round pick
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Neither Ward, nor Sanders look good to me.
As much as it pains me, I would look for QB in free agency. I know nothing great is out there. But if we can get OKAY from the position, that is good enough.
Jeanty looks like the only homerun pick on offense in the 1st. He reminds me of a faster MJD. Abdul Carter could look amazing paired with JOK (assuming he returns)
I'm not falling for the Travis Hunter hype.
Based on where the Browns draft right now.. and how many holes we potentially have. I'm a bit nervous about next year.
"Incredible" is his nickname given to him by his Dad as a kid and now he and Myles Garrett. Wow.
This is why I love this channel and you petey! Always keeping it 💯 and im with ya!
The only good QBs the Browns have drafted since the 80s are Bernie (and he helped the Browns manipulate the supplemental draft so he could be a Brown) and Baker Mayfield (and the Browns thought they were upgrading the QB position by replacing him with Watson).
Seems that it’s a tradition that we can’t evaluate QBs. Remember Hue Jackson said he “felt the earth move” when he worked out RG3.
Brian Sipe…
@ Brian Sipe, my favorite Brown, joined the Browns in 1974.
Don’t want either neither is that good trade that pick or pick best player in the rather draft Travis hunter or a line man
NO to cam and saunders / not even a question
Yes you are right but Berry is dying for a great black QB and he will take him if we get the first pick he will bust like DTR but look what he did with Watson. He gave up the fucking form for Watson and all that money and look what’s happened. He picked DTR look what’s happened like it’s a joke. He’ll pick another bust qb
You White Supremacist are the very reason I would advise Sanders and Ward to avoid Cleveland! So disappointing, but not surprising!
2025 NFL Draft order after week 17
- #1: New England Patriots (3-13)
- #2: Tennessee Titans (3-13)
- #3: Cleveland Browns (3-13)
- #4: New York Giants (3-13)
- #5: Jacksonville Jaguars (4-12)
- #6: Carolina Panthers (4-12)
- #7: New York Jets (4-12)
- #8: Las Vegas Raiders (4-12)
- #9: Chicago Bears (4-12)
- #10: New Orleans Saints (5-11)
The Browns…SHOULD NOT draft Sanders or Ward. Especially at 1, 2, or 3. They need OLine pick, or a DE to match with Garrett.
Path for the Cleveland Browns to get the #1 overall pick in the 2025 NFL Draft
- Cleveland Browns (3-13) lose to Baltimore Ravens (11-5) in week 18
- Tennessee Titans (3-13) win over Houston Texans (9-7) in week 18
- New England Patriots (3-13) win over Buffalo Bills (13-3) in week 18
If we go buy that logic would we have drafted Baker???? He didn`t blow anybody away and nobody thought he would be elite!!!
They should trade back a few spots gain another 2026 first from a team like the saints raiders or Giants and still get one of the best position players in this draft
Browns don't have a history of developing draft picks,but it still seems like the best way to go
If your Andrew Berry, you have to look at all potential quarterbacks in the draft this year and next year. Don’t reach for a player if he’s not ranked high. You can always get one next season. You can always get a bridge veteran player for next year
lots of talent mid 1st / trade back
The Athletic Dane Brugler’s Big Board:
- #1: Travis Hunter (WR/CB)
- #2: Will Johnson (CB)
- #3: Abdul Carter (OLB)
- #16: Cam Ward (QB)
- #23: Shedeur Sanders (QB)
Abdul Carter
Ward and sanders are not all that. If they got the #1 pick, they should trade down. It really doesnt matter where the browns pick. Berry has done a horrible job drafting. Personally, i would draft a left tackle in the first and go secondary in the second, and OL, DL or secondary in the third.
Draft a quarterback next year.
Cam the Quitter and She-Dork (daddy's boy) aren't 1st round caliber QBs. They are bridge/backups at best. Which means Stefanski, AB, and DePo will reach for one in a desperate attempt to prolong their failing careers.
Y’all are crazy if you think Deion is gonna let his son go to Cleveland. Whether you think he’s overrated or not Cleveland is not the city for him.
HELL NO you dont trade up
Sanders? You guys are gonna blow ANOTHER first round pick. C’mon!
Trade down with the Raiders or Giants, including a 1st next year. Depending on placement, draft Carter (even though we're solid at edge) or Graham. I'd also entertain another trade down for Jeanty
If they draft Sanders I’m gonna die laughing 😂
I jsut hope they don’t go defense like every mock has them taking DL. I’d take Jeanty over than. Trade back from your first pick, pick up Jaden Milroe and try to pick up the other one somehow. We need a tackle, a starting RB and a QB in the first two days.
Browns should bolster defense there is to many clock managing quarterbacks potentially available in free agency this off season.
It doesn't matter if cle has the number one or number two pick. Patriots aren't taking a qb and while they may trade down with the giants we would definitely take Travis hunter. So either we get a qb or one of the most elite player in years- at two key positions. If we end up with the third well have one of the qbs and if we have the number 2 we'd have our pick. Things look up for us
Taking a QB should not be the #1 question cause neither of these so called top tier QB's are even first round worthy. What a joke!
Thats just bs
@OFFGRIDLivvin Way to have a constructive conversation. Your parents must be proud.
Ward is the only one i wouldn't be mad about. But I'd prefer us to draft Hunter, Graham or Carter more.
You can't assess Player based only on Stats. There's too much that can alter His Play in either direction.
We can’t possibly talking about taking a QB, can we?? The talent out there sucks but more importantly, this head office has an abysmal record of drafting and developing QB’s.
No way I let Berry and Stefanski on this one. Let’s look at the track record:
0:34
1)Mayfield is run only to have a playoff season in TB
2) Watson - say no more
3) Flacco walks and replaced by Winston. Not sure how far Flacco takes you but the only thing Winston is winning is the interception race
4) Cut Huntley for DTR. DTR looks no better with another year under his belt while Huntley efficiently shreds Browns in lopsided win.
Please, don’t pick a QB!
Yes Browns take Sanders....lol. That should ensure the Browns will never be a playoff team....
Trade down a few spots and take Mileoe (higher ceiling) or Ashton Jeanty
Sheduer shouldn't even be a consideration
Guys were the Browns we have a t shirt over flowing with names of qb just like these guys. I like Cam Ward but we need to get as much young talent as possible then try and move up for Manning next year if possible the manning's haven't made a qb that didnt figure it out yet. I would give a kings ransom for that not gamble and miss out on great young top talent but have Bitonio retire and Ward and Myles ask to be traded then where we gonna be with one of these QB's???
I believe the only Value the No. 1 has to Us is Trade Value. We need an experienced QB that understands the Game on an NFL level, and more Importantly understands Our System.
If we pick Shedeur Sanders in the first round I quit...dude is Johnny Manziel 2.0.
Neither of the top quarterback prospects have top 10 grades. If they were in last year's draft or next year's draft they would be closer to the 2nd round. The Browns shouldn't reach. Trading down a few picks then pick the best player available.
Trade back, take Abdul pick up capital, take best available in 2nd, draft a qb like Allar if he makes it there or Will Howard in the third
Yes
If Money Mitch rips the Patriots apart they should trade a 6th round pick for him. Trade down to 4 draft TMac from Arizona and get a boat load of picks from Giants. He could be next years Darnold with Stud Receivers and stud TE.
Abdul is the pick
Message to Browns fans from a college football fanatic and I mean fanatic. I don’t watch the NFL. Cam Ward is a guaranteed stud, Ashton Jeanty is a Stud.
Media love affair with Colorado propped Shadeur up beyond his potential, he will be a serviceable backup.
Media also destroys Miami Hurricanes players whenever they can because they hate that program.
If you pass on Cam because of the media narrative and you really didn’t pay attention to the film you will regret it forever.
Cam is ice cold under pressure situations, he has a canon, he is smart and studies the game, and he is a leader. Don’t buy into the bullshit pop tarts bowl narrative, it’s just haters and there is a lot of them.
If you don’t take Cam, take Jeanty. He is a beast and should have won the Heisman.
No QB in 2025!!
Linemen! Possibly a bell-cow RB.
We take a QB in 26
The only problem is, you may not be in a position next year to get rhe qb you want. If they like one, they have to draft them.
If that's the case, go after a guy in FA. Don't just take a guy cause you need him but he isn't exactly what you want. The Browns have done that since they came back with very few promising results
@Pnk_Rckr my question, what free agents are going to make you competitive?
@bcspiel This is not a team that is in a position to be competitive. There's too many question marks and holes around the roster and organization right now, and a lot of that is because the starting QB is taking up so much money and not playing the way he should. Probably won't even be available next year. Your star running back doesn't look the same since his injury. You only have one WR, maybe two with Jeudy and Tillman, and a lot of just guys. A TE that may or may not be here next year, depending on who calls and what they're willing to give for him. O Line has a lot of aging veterans beyond their prime and question marks at both OTs. Defense at least has some promise depending on who comes back next year, but it doesn't mean much if you can't score. You could look at Cousins or Darnold but Darnold is probably above what we can pay, and Cousins probably doesn't want to play outside in Cleveland unless the prospect of reuniting with his OCis too appealing to pass up. You could go get Fields or Wilson, but Wilson will probably stay in Pittsburgh. Fields wouldn't be a bad one year pick-up and probably your best bridge option for a young guy. The only other guys I can think of are Brissett, Heinicke, or Winston. Those are guys that can win you a few games but you're ceiling is probably .500 (probably the best chance to get a better guy next year). I just don't see them looking at this QB class and their roster and thinking one of those two "top" guys can turn things around. This draft has to be efficient. They need to draft the guys that will build the foundation for future success once the Watson contract is done and over with and all their aging veterans are out the door. If they don't think a QB early on is someone who can endure that, then they can't draft them.
@@Pnk_Rckr we will disagree on the state of the roster. They are good qb play away from eleven wins. They can compete next year. But none of the free agents you mention will win.
I don't know if there is a rookie that will win, but if they evaluate one as a winner. They have to draft him.
@bcspiel If you truly believe this team is one position away from 11 wins, then you're drunk on Kool-aid. Even Garrett and Bitonio openly do not agree with you. Don't give me anything about last year. That's in the past. Many players and coaches that were part of that team are gone. You're in the toughest division in the league with the Steelers returning to relevancy and the Bengals battling their way back into the playoff conversation. We're the fourth best team in the conference, and sure we can split a series, but that's only two or three wins. We haven't shown that we can even compete against mid-level teams.
No Sanders in Cleveland, please.
Col. Sanders please
He exit at his first chance.
Top 50 will reveal itself in the scouting combine and these players talked about now will move up the draft boards quickly c'mon Peterson 😂😂😂
Players can also move down
I think Jackson Dart is a better fit in Cleveland. Early 2nd round pick. The number 3 pick should be Abdul Carter or mason Graham..
Jaxson dart will be the best qb in this class take it tothe bank
Jaxon dart sucks. 😂
Every qb is a risk until they actually play, and even then they can suck go to a new team and be good
Trade your top pick for more picks. I watched those 2 top prospects in their bowl games, they showed me nothing!
I don't know. Maybe
I would take Cam Ward hands down
Travis Hunter
All in on shedeur period
The tank should’ve started once Watson got hurt and the back ups were 💩
Tanking for picks is not what I'd like the Browns to do. There are plenty of good players in the draft. Pick one of them and save team dignity. Watch footage on Sanders, Ward, and Gabriel. Focus on highlights where they have to step up in the pocket and drive the ball into a WR off a read. Throw out runs, scrambles outside the pocket, soft touch like throws. Forget those plays. Now watch and none of them do it.
No to sanders hell no
I would rather wait on a qb i would take somebody like Jackson Dart in the 2nd or preferably the 3rd round I would take Carter or Graham in the 1st and an O lineman in the 2nd preferably Josh Simmons
@@BKB0509that makes sense in reality 👍
Kurtis Rourke from indiana 😊
I don't see all this hype as relevant. It's unlikely both the Pats and the Titans win. Titans maybe. But whose to say they aren't trying to tank either?
P.S. The snake oil salesmanship (and for that matter, the gambling adverts) are a real bad look.
Yes the #1
Fella, neither Goff nor Wentz were considered the top of their class both went top 2. Wentz had MVP like season until injury but did get a SB ring, and Goff has been to the SB as well. Fact remains if you need a qb you take one. This draft is not EJ Manuel level bad. I think ppl have been spoiled with generational type terms thrown about for a few drafts. These are still two good prospects and would probably be the top two next year over everyone not named Arch (because of potential) so what are we saying. lol.
The only reason I want the number 1 pick is so that it can be traded
If AB keeps the 1st Round pick, draft an OLman.
I want O-Line but there isn’t one worthy in the top 5!
Kurtis Rourke from indiana
Trade out and stack picksnto go after Arch Manning.
Pass on Sanders and Ward
Absolutely no QB in round 1 draft either Riley Leonard, Will Howard, or Ewers later on. Ewers might go in round 2, but Howard and Leonard should be available in rounds 3-7.
I say bring back Cody Kessler Trust Me On This One.
I agree, and you take will Howard round 3
Trade with some one in the top 7 for their 1 and a1and 2
You really believe the Pats and Titans are gonna try to win and lose draft position?! Stop the stupidity. BTW. you don’t want any part of Sanders. He’s not the next anything.
Maybe the Browns trade down if they don’t like the the QB’s left.
Neither draft the DT out of Michigan. Or the LB out of Penn st.
Btw Adam Schefter tweeted that Mike Vrabel's contract with the Browns expired today......😢
Petey u stop it !!!! 😂😂😂😂 Cam Ward is the most nonchalant , most poise QB in the country !!! I’m not saying he Andrew luck . But with the right pieces , the right protection. Cam Ward he curve a defense. Mark my words . #draftWard #gobrowns
He’s intriguing 🧐
PLEASE Mason.... pretty pleaae
are they even seriously talking about sander's son at QB lord these people drafting don't have a clue . just like the Laker's taken Labron's son how has that worked for the Laker's he play's in a b league basketball . cleveland already has three b and c league Q.S s why add a fourth ?
Top 5 we go Abdul Carter
6-7 we go Ashton Jeanty
Wouldn't take Jeanty. He has a lot of mileage. You can find a quality guy in the second through fourth that can start instantly or year two at the worst. There are other needs, like Abdul Carter or OT, that should be explored before running back
@Pnk_Rckr the beauty of it is he doesn't have a lot of mileage he has under 1,000 carries in College. The threshold for high mileage is above 1,000 carries although some have still found success after Doing that. Ron Dayne is the 1 that made high mileage a thing but he just wasn't good enough.
@zombiegoatt4282 I just can't justify picking him that early. There's other guys you can draft later that will be just as effective while also getting a better prospect with your first pick (OL, DL, OT, CB). As long as it isn't QB really
@Pnk_Rckr I have us drafting 2 QB's and 2 RB's in the draft. We need them lol. The 2nd QB though I want to use like Taysom Hill in New Orleans!
@@zombiegoatt4282 You're tripping if you draft 2 QBs lmao. I get it, but you can sign a guy or two in FA and draft a QB. RB I could see since it's a stacked class lol
The Browns should pick Dillon Gabriel, Cam Ward, or draft Ashton Jeanty and sign Kirk Cousins for one year deal
Ward is better than Sanders.
Going to delete any claims of getting that player. Do better pete.
I'm looking forward to another 10 or more losses next season.
LMFAOOOO Bro Eagles traded for Wentz and went on to win a SB within 2 years while trading those picks, and browns got a bunch of trash and went 1-31 trying to load up on talent while passing on multiple qbs. This is why this org and fan base wont win anything. They want an Andrew Luck prospect #1 or trade down for assets and bpa. Those guys dont come around often. Lawrence was the last and he looks average. Burrow maybe but ppl wondered if it was a 1 year wonder. Team needs to draft a qb period. Might as well lock in Sanders or Ward now. Anything else would be a shock to me.
Lmao right as if we have any faith in Berry doing anything with these picks. We’re not going to get a Bears level haul anyway. You have to be aggressive and draft Ward/Shadeur. Imagine 2024 Browns with good QB play we’re a 8-10 win team. Now imagine us with Abdul Carter or Mason Graham…yeah zero difference in our record.
Honestly, people might disagree, but I have a feeling that sanders is the right choice. He has NFL hall of famer blood. He’s got the gene in him. Deon Sanders was a beast. I don’t think his son will be much different.
That and he has a lot of swagger. Ppl love to hate on him, but he did elevate every program he was at. He has an infectious personality that locker rooms respect. I wouldnt be upset at all. Least I know I'm getting a guy that will play his ass off and lives for football.
Schematically, he's the perfect fit for Stefanski's offense. Unfortunately, the drama he and his father created have made him untouchable for Cleveland. I believe they're trying to orchestrate a move to Las Vegas.
@@NoWittyNameDevisedwouldn’t surprise me
That, and I don't think We're in the Position to Develop a Rookie QB. We never really have been, that's why the only Rookie QB We've had to do anything at all was Baker.
Fancy supporting a team you want to lose each week. Seriously the franchise is cooked, fix that