18:04 I'm so happy Greeny said this. I wish some teams were self aware enough to go "Yes we need a QB but we don't have enough to support a Rookie QB right now. Let's get the Best Player Available". It's not an exact science but putting a rookie in a bad situation = failure almost every single time
@@damianpresha9833 Just because he had some success in Cleveland doesn't change the fact he was in the bargain bin when Tampa got him for 4 million on a prove it deal. It's worked out great for them Darnold is looking good in Minnesota what don't you understand?
@@Travis89-ob5tt Sam Darnold had zero NFL success with the Jets,Panthers or 49ers he is a project. Baker was selected No. 1 made the rookie TD record. Later won Cleveland the first playoff game since 1994. Was threw out of town for a guy who couldn't match it. What part of Baker wasn't a project you can't grasp ?
@@damianpresha9833 You seem determined to defend Baker and ignore my whole point that Geno, Baker, and Darnold were all very cheap. I'm a Bucs fan therefore I'ma Baker fan he's been great for us but he did bottom out before he found successful again in Tampa.
Yall wrong about shedeur im telling you he will be a good teammate and great for any organization and will win. Its the accuracy that sets him apart yall seen them throws.‼️‼️‼️‼️
It would take a lot for Shedeur to not be in the silver and black next season. It's way more likely that Deion forces an Eli type move to get him to Vegas over him doing nothing an allowing his son to go to a team where he won't have a decent shot at success. Shedeur turned down dozens of offers to listen to his father when it came to picking a college and transferring to Colorado, I don't see things changing now
@@morsifying Shedeur has dropped many hints about wanting to go to Vegas, his QB mentor in Tom Brady is now apart of the organization in Vegas and Vegas is in a way better situation than Carolina and arguably Cleveland with the amount of salary cap they have to work with. Of all the places that need QB's it seems like Vegas is the top option for Shedeur. Also Deion has actually dropped hints that he wants him in Vegas, a quick search and you can see it.
@@samurraiwarrior11 I can send you a video right now of Deion absolutely shutting down the thought of Shadeur going to the Raiders. Nobody wants to go there, disfunctional org with a bottom 2 coach and a desperate owner. They aren’t a QB away either, they have 2 foundational pieces on that team. Crosby and Bowers, if you are generous you can say Wilkins. The only argument that makes sense is that Pierce is so bad he gets fired and Deion steps in as HC
@@morsifying Are you talking about the Nightcap clip? If you are you're 1000% taking that clip out of context. They were talking about Russ getting a new start next season on a team that's not PIttsburgh, Ochocinco brings up Vegas and Deion immediately shuts it down. Most people would assume that he doesn't want to talk about Russ in Vegas cuz he wants his son their? Maybe that's why Shedeur is going to games with Mark Davis and being seen talking to him? Deion is not dumb and Deion knows exactly what that looks like. You say nobody wants to go there yet they still bring in free agents like Christian Wilkins, Vegas is a premiere destination and the Raiders are way closer to being a playoff team than you're giving them credit for. AP is a players coach like Tomlin, he doesn't call the offense, Luke Getsy does and we all know how bad he is after his stint in Chicago. He won't be there next season because the only reason he is in the building is because Kliff Kingsbury pulled out the day before signing and Luke was all that was left.
Cam Ward a no brainer as the #1 QB. I’m a Florida fan so no allegiance to him at all, but that dude is a special talent with arm versatility, pocket presence, and confidence
If anyone's still listening to mel kipers predictions like he's got some key insight that no one else does, after the hundreds of inaccurate rankings he's put out, that's on you.
As a non Georgia Fan I think Carson Beck could be a special QB in the NFL if he could sit for a year like Mahomes or Jordan Love did. He reminds me of Jared Goff who is a top 3 QB in the NFL now.
Respectfully disagree completely. Just like Mac Jones, absolute product of having the best talent in the country festered with 5 Star talent around him and the best coaching in the country. I actually don’t think he’ll even start in the NFL
@@uniformfoxtrot23 His arm talent is way better then Mac Jones hes more like Flacco. He also seems to process things faster. Mac Jones might not even be done look at Baker and Sam Darnold he might just need the right situation. New England is horrendous look at Drake May right now. Didn't Jone go to a Pro Bowl already?
@@neilsmith9066Beck does not process things faster. His offence is just faster than most defences. As soon as he was confronted by Bama, he got shat on.
The audio on the podcast has been terrible on the past few episodes, when you increase the volume to hear Mel, Mike is extremely loud. Please improve the audio.
*Listening to a bunch of none football playing Dorks talk about who should be drafted where and when is so weird to me lol I had to turn this off less than a minute in*
Honest question, Cam Ward is the #1 player in the country w/out a doubt, but would Miami really be back without him? I think Miami is 4-3 without him., he has single handedly won 3 games by himself pretty much with his dazzling plays. Not having him and Restrepo next year, might debunk your theory about Miami being back. I know there is hype on Emory Williams but let’s be real, ain’t even close to Ward
Mel Kiper does his job, he makes an evaluation based on the parameters of the game, they are in all honesty dumb. However if you’re career was to evaluate the best prospect you’re going to use the data you have seen be most social proofed.
@titus0856 The cocky behavior of the Sanders family last season is why so many cheer when Colorado loses. - The past doesn't matter, Sanders in Las Vegas 🤣 he'll succumb to the Vegas curse like so many other promising athletes. Vegas is just a bad environment for young athletes
@titus0856 Sounds like the same poor peer pressure decisions that got Brady involved with the illegal financial pyramid scandal shortly before his wife left him (since he convinced her to be involved in it too) Hope Brady gets better in the broadcast booth
Field Yates talks and acts now like a Mel Kiper 2.0.................................................................................................................................................
Stop letting wyt men tell you people like carson beck and Quinn ewers are 1st round picks. They only say that based off skin color. Give it up mel like everything else you can only gate keep for so long
18:04 I'm so happy Greeny said this. I wish some teams were self aware enough to go "Yes we need a QB but we don't have enough to support a Rookie QB right now. Let's get the Best Player Available". It's not an exact science but putting a rookie in a bad situation = failure almost every single time
Some do I'm sure more will now that guys like Geno, Baker, and Darnold are showing you can actually win with reclaimation projects at bargain prices.
@@Travis89-ob5ttExcept Baker was a playoff QB in Cleveland not a project. What are you even talking about
@@damianpresha9833 Just because he had some success in Cleveland doesn't change the fact he was in the bargain bin when Tampa got him for 4 million on a prove it deal. It's worked out great for them Darnold is looking good in Minnesota what don't you understand?
@@Travis89-ob5tt Sam Darnold had zero NFL success with the Jets,Panthers or 49ers he is a project. Baker was selected No. 1 made the rookie TD record. Later won Cleveland the first playoff game since 1994. Was threw out of town for a guy who couldn't match it. What part of Baker wasn't a project you can't grasp ?
@@damianpresha9833 You seem determined to defend Baker and ignore my whole point that Geno, Baker, and Darnold were all very cheap. I'm a Bucs fan therefore I'ma Baker fan he's been great for us but he did bottom out before he found successful again in Tampa.
Yall wrong about shedeur im telling you he will be a good teammate and great for any organization and will win. Its the accuracy that sets him apart yall seen them throws.‼️‼️‼️‼️
72% accuracy will help him in the league
I agree I’m taking him 1st and if I could I even take Travis!!! Talent is there bottom line
I been stop listening to Mel kiper after he said Aaron Donald game won’t translate to the nfl
To be fair though there are plenty of dt’s that have AD’s size and game in college that don’t work out. AD was just a dawg
Stop it lots of ppl missed on aaron donald
So you clicked on the video and commented 😂
@@jerrellyoung957 I was about to say the same thing
Mel hardly gets anything right. Just another guy who got his job through the good ole boy club.
Remember when Mel Kiper said he’d leave if Jimmy Clausen wasn’t successful.. still waiting for you to leave
Carson beck is not a top ten talent
💯 fact. Another Mac Jones, he is on a team with most talent and best coaching in the country. Won’t even start in the NFL
I'm a Georgia fan, I approve!!!
At all..😂😂😂 Carson Beck will be a backup. Think of Brock Osweiler😂😂
Facts he's gonna be out of the league in 3-4 yrs
@ 💯💯💯
It would take a lot for Shedeur to not be in the silver and black next season. It's way more likely that Deion forces an Eli type move to get him to Vegas over him doing nothing an allowing his son to go to a team where he won't have a decent shot at success. Shedeur turned down dozens of offers to listen to his father when it came to picking a college and transferring to Colorado, I don't see things changing now
Deion doesn’t want him in Vegas 😂 He won’t even entertain it
@@morsifying Shedeur has dropped many hints about wanting to go to Vegas, his QB mentor in Tom Brady is now apart of the organization in Vegas and Vegas is in a way better situation than Carolina and arguably Cleveland with the amount of salary cap they have to work with. Of all the places that need QB's it seems like Vegas is the top option for Shedeur. Also Deion has actually dropped hints that he wants him in Vegas, a quick search and you can see it.
@@morsifying ua-cam.com/video/yUd6LP-2izk/v-deo.htmlsi=chJy2H-ARnifQo9Q
@@samurraiwarrior11 I can send you a video right now of Deion absolutely shutting down the thought of Shadeur going to the Raiders. Nobody wants to go there, disfunctional org with a bottom 2 coach and a desperate owner. They aren’t a QB away either, they have 2 foundational pieces on that team. Crosby and Bowers, if you are generous you can say Wilkins. The only argument that makes sense is that Pierce is so bad he gets fired and Deion steps in as HC
@@morsifying Are you talking about the Nightcap clip? If you are you're 1000% taking that clip out of context. They were talking about Russ getting a new start next season on a team that's not PIttsburgh, Ochocinco brings up Vegas and Deion immediately shuts it down. Most people would assume that he doesn't want to talk about Russ in Vegas cuz he wants his son their? Maybe that's why Shedeur is going to games with Mark Davis and being seen talking to him? Deion is not dumb and Deion knows exactly what that looks like. You say nobody wants to go there yet they still bring in free agents like Christian Wilkins, Vegas is a premiere destination and the Raiders are way closer to being a playoff team than you're giving them credit for. AP is a players coach like Tomlin, he doesn't call the offense, Luke Getsy does and we all know how bad he is after his stint in Chicago. He won't be there next season because the only reason he is in the building is because Kliff Kingsbury pulled out the day before signing and Luke was all that was left.
Mason Graham playing alongside Derrick Brown would be devasting 😳😳😳
Cam Ward a no brainer as the #1 QB. I’m a Florida fan so no allegiance to him at all, but that dude is a special talent with arm versatility, pocket presence, and confidence
Shedeur will never go to cleveland
Deion won’t allow it at all lol! They will pull a Manning/Elway move lol
Cleveland has a lot of talent. You don’t know what your talking about
Well Cleveland has money (Watson,lol) so ya.. he will.
@@2020fjs we here to succeed not the money
As a Browns fan I'd rather have Milroe, Beck or Ewers
WTF happened to Todd McShay. I used to enjoy watching him make Mel Kiper uncomfortable.
He showed up to work drunk a few too many times. He just got hired by Bill Simmons at The Ringer
Has his own podcast
If anyone's still listening to mel kipers predictions like he's got some key insight that no one else does, after the hundreds of inaccurate rankings he's put out, that's on you.
Cam Ward is a top 3 pick, Shedeur a top 10 no debate
Look this is simple... Shedeur will play everywhere but Carolina. They already have hinted to that.
Where u see that at? I’m a panthers fan btw
@@trvppii2 he said it on nightcap with shannon and ocho. he didnt say it implicitly but it was implied.
I wouldn't let him go to Carolina, Cleveland, Tennessee either
Add in New Orleans
I think Sheadur and Cam Ward both are safe picks
Man, I loved that guy as a kid in Hard To Kill. It's odd seeing him be a draft analyst.
Even they admitted they don’t know what they’re doing with the QB selections! 😝
Cam Ward 🙌
I love how the thumbnail is james pearce jr jersey and number but its nico in the helmet 😭
It’s actually Peyton Lewis
glad kyper said that about justin fields. so true
Prime literally said he’s not following his kids. They follow him.
My Big Board
Offense:
1. Ashton jeanty
2. Shedeur sanders
3. Quinshon Judkins
4. Tetty McMillan
5. Luther burden
6. Kelvin banks
7. Will Campbell
8. Cam ward
9. Isaiah bond
10. Emeka egbuka
11. Treveyon Henderson
Defense:
1. Malaki starks
2. Travis hunter
3. Will Johnson
4. Mykel Williams
5. Mason Graham
6. Jalon walker
7. James pierce
8. Harold Perkins
9. Abdul carter
10. Nic scourton
11. Malachi Moore
Will Johnson number one my only take perfect though
@@rafzone2995 I can respect that
3 RBs😂😂
Judkins??? Omarion Hampton is better to me.
Why is Peyton Lewis (Tennessee freshman runningback) the thumbnail
You have to be out your mind to take Travis Hunter number one.
Ashton jeanty clearly best player in draft
@@Bethbutucancallmechandra Not even close
@@mikejones9906 10 yards per carry. His hands and route running are wr like. Offensive weapon we havent seen since cmc
He looks more talented then the multiple time all pro. Dude is sick@@Bethbutucancallmechandra
@@Bethbutucancallmechandra Look at the competition he’s going against.
It’s not a good a class! What?! sanders and ward are legit!
But what does Mad Mel think
If the Giants or Raiders pass on Sanders, they’re stupid
As a non Georgia Fan I think Carson Beck could be a special QB in the NFL if he could sit for a year like Mahomes or Jordan Love did. He reminds me of Jared Goff who is a top 3 QB in the NFL now.
Respectfully disagree completely. Just like Mac Jones, absolute product of having the best talent in the country festered with 5 Star talent around him and the best coaching in the country. I actually don’t think he’ll even start in the NFL
@@uniformfoxtrot23 His arm talent is way better then Mac Jones hes more like Flacco. He also seems to process things faster. Mac Jones might not even be done look at Baker and Sam Darnold he might just need the right situation. New England is horrendous look at Drake May right now. Didn't Jone go to a Pro Bowl already?
@@neilsmith9066Beck does not process things faster. His offence is just faster than most defences. As soon as he was confronted by Bama, he got shat on.
@@SwolioDolio ok well we will see in 3 years. If he sucks you can come back and laugh at me all you want
@@SwolioDolio He also came back in the 2nd half took the lead and Bama had to have a miracle pass in the last second to win the game. It happens
The audio on the podcast has been terrible on the past few episodes, when you increase the volume to hear Mel, Mike is extremely loud. Please improve the audio.
Cant wait for the packers to draft a cb or pass rusher who's projected to be a 4th rounder in the first round and have them sit.
😂 Eli over $2 is nasty work 😆
Does Mel always rock back and forth like he did in this draft show
*Listening to a bunch of none football playing Dorks talk about who should be drafted where and when is so weird to me lol I had to turn this off less than a minute in*
If you need a QB you better get him quick. Not many QBs in this draft
Cam ward and some other players from Miami will be selected on the top 4 rounds cone on Mel. Moami hurricanes back
Honest question, Cam Ward is the #1 player in the country w/out a doubt, but would Miami really be back without him? I think Miami is 4-3 without him., he has single handedly won 3 games by himself pretty much with his dazzling plays.
Not having him and Restrepo next year, might debunk your theory about Miami being back. I know there is hype on Emory Williams but let’s be real, ain’t even close to Ward
Welcome my fellow Panther fans 😂😂😂
The guys he hasn't won't be good Will for sure be Hall of farmer's 😅
Yall crazy if the top teams not picking Q. B.
Right,that's why they are the top teams in the draft. No QB...and they want them to pass? Then,let a playoff team waste a 1st round for their future?
Right
Don’t know his name but #92 on Ohio state should be a Detroit lion
I just came here to see Field be a hater.
Mel’s been wrong since he stated getting coverage from the nfl
QB inflation has gotten crazy.
Mel Kiper does his job, he makes an evaluation based on the parameters of the game, they are in all honesty dumb. However if you’re career was to evaluate the best prospect you’re going to use the data you have seen be most social proofed.
Browns will not draft a qb, most likely they fire the coaches and try with other people helping the one they have
Sanders isn’t even graded a first round talent accordingly to multiple NFL execs. He ain’t that guy
Wow, no mention of Jackmerius Tacktheritrix?
I like him but i feel action jaxson flaxson vaxson is a better prospect
Fudgeeeee
Tom Brady would never want Sanders as Raiders QB 😂
Tom Brady mentors Sanders and his company gave him an NIL deal when he was at Jackson State
@titus0856 The cocky behavior of the Sanders family last season is why so many cheer when Colorado loses.
- The past doesn't matter, Sanders in Las Vegas 🤣 he'll succumb to the Vegas curse like so many other promising athletes.
Vegas is just a bad environment for young athletes
@ what you mean?? Tom Brady literally mentors him and gave him an NIL deal. What past are you talking about, he mentors him now.
@titus0856 Sounds like the same poor peer pressure decisions that got Brady involved with the illegal financial pyramid scandal shortly before his wife left him (since he convinced her to be involved in it too)
Hope Brady gets better in the broadcast booth
@ you are just hack, what does that have to do with anything.
Kiper is blind as a bat. He said Brice Young would be the greatest QB in NFL history
Pearce is a mid to late pick.
Eye test over analytics
Jesus, Kiper needs to throttle back on the caffeine or crack or whatever he's on. And Yates isn't far behind.
Mel looks like hes been scratching his chin everytime hes off camera
Dis espn buy you guys $20 webcams?
Field Yates talks and acts now like a Mel Kiper 2.0.................................................................................................................................................
The production of this is terrible! Mel’s voice is about half as loud as Greeny’s and Fields’. Who wants to ride the volume for an hour?
Mel always wrong
James Williams was 6’5 230lb… not 6’3 and whatever. He ran a 4.6, which is why he dropped to the 7th
Who df is Mel kiper??
yates your teeth are more ridiculous looking than Kiper's hair.
This is the first worst podcast in the business Cam ward is better than Williams and Daniel he can read defense
He can def read the field better than both, Cam is a franchise QB
This disgusting these guy still got a job on ESPN
Stop letting wyt men tell you people like carson beck and Quinn ewers are 1st round picks. They only say that based off skin color. Give it up mel like everything else you can only gate keep for so long
With all the valid reasons to criticize Mel Kiper, you chose to make one up instead? 😂
Literally the wackiest reason ever. Mel Kiper was in love with this guy named Jamarcus Russell who last time I checked was black.
How is your comment not flagged for racist comments
Always man if you can play that's all it is not the color of their skin c'mon you know that's not true