PSA Dagger Micro Magazines | 2,000 Round Review | 17 Failures

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  • @aj_coutts
    @aj_coutts  Рік тому +11

    0.22: Overview
    2.20: 2,000 Round Summary
    2.46: Summary of Failures
    3.30: Conclusion
    4.12: Function Tests
    4.50: 1,000 Rounds of Ball Ammo
    18.01: Ball Ammo Summary
    18.43: 1,000 Rounds of Expandable Ammo
    27.18: Final Conclusion

    • @omarrp14
      @omarrp14 Рік тому +1

      One of the few channels I’ve seen do this, I really appreciate the summary. I just know it’ll drastically affect your watch time which the UA-cam algorithm does not like promoting channels with low watch time.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      @@omarrp14 appreciate your feedback! And yes, the video dropoff is exactly after the summary, unfortunately. We're still being distributed well enough, but I do wonder what our view time would be if we'd not moved the summary up

  • @saltaddict685
    @saltaddict685 Рік тому +65

    Wow 1000 rounds of HST for a mag test!!?? That's serious 💪

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +9

      Thanks 👏

    • @FluffPuffkotj
      @FluffPuffkotj Рік тому +4

      Yeah, they are not messing around here.

    • @KnifeNinjaEDC
      @KnifeNinjaEDC Рік тому +8

      Yeah I can barely afford a box 😂

    • @chase2056
      @chase2056 Рік тому +3

      @@KnifeNinjaEDCsame 🤣 a box is 30$ where I’m at. For 20 rounds

    • @DarkPhoenixTSi
      @DarkPhoenixTSi Рік тому

      This is the way!

  • @DerWaidmann_
    @DerWaidmann_ Рік тому +10

    Your work and dedication is very much appreciated in this community.
    Unfortunately 17 failures in 2,000 rounds is not nearly reliable enough to trust your life to

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Did you actually watch the failures? If so, what makes you think it's untrustworthy?

    • @DerWaidmann_
      @DerWaidmann_ Рік тому +3

      @@aj_coutts Glocks are known for going tens of thousands of rounds without any failures. My P365 XL has gone 3,000 rounds so far without failures. The standard for reliability is set so high and you should not trust your life to a magazine that has failed you multiple times

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +7

      @@DerWaidmann_ I don't disagree with your assessment, entirely, but I think that it's not as cut and dry as that. These are, as I've seen, the most reliable mags if you want to carry 15 rounds in a G43X/48. Given the factor that we only had 3 failures with carry ammo, and that likely they were caused by fatigued hands and hot guns, I don't find a reason to call these untrustworthy. We'll have more content coming out on them (and some new ones again), trying 124gr ball ammo to see if they run that better. Stay tuned

  • @BlueCurtainBurner
    @BlueCurtainBurner Рік тому +8

    This video was well put together. Loved the time stamps and attention to point out failures as well as alternate causes. I'm in a restricted state, but researching in hopes of a window of opportunity for when the courts ever gets around to beating down more infringements. Looking forward to more content.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Keith, glad you enjoyed it and hope you get some more freedom soon 🇺🇲🇺🇲

  • @RubiconTSL
    @RubiconTSL Рік тому +25

    Forgive me if I’m wrong, but based on this video, most of the malfunctions happened due to user error. Improper grip on the gun, support hand thumb riding on the slide and constantly shifting and gripping the slide might be a cause for malfunctions. Noticed that the big majority of malfunctions happened to the same shooter, that might be the common denominator.
    My advice is to take some classes and retrain having a proper grip on the firearm. You do not need to constantly shift and rearrange your grip multiple times while shooting. Also, that thumb does not need to be elevated like that and it has no business being that close to the slide. The support hand thumb is meant to create support on the frame, not the slide. That is clearly a bad habit that hasn’t been addressed.
    I’ll give these mags a try, since I’ve had nothing but headaches with the Shield Arms.
    Thank you for the video, God bless.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +17

      Appreciate the thoughts, and you aren't entirely wrong. I definitely caused a few of them, and attempted to convey it where it was clearly my fault. As far as resetting my grip goes, my trigger finger and palms were bloody by the time we were done, and the guns were piping hot. Made it a bit harder to retain a great grip throughout 😁 that said, a better grip is something I am actively working and receiving training on. So thank you 👊

    • @recklesz__88
      @recklesz__88 Рік тому +4

      I was thinking the same, definitely user error and poor grip!

    • @RubiconTSL
      @RubiconTSL Рік тому +9

      @@aj_coutts I can totally see getting a good grip on a hot gun can be very uncomfortable.
      Thank you for not taking offense of my comment, I meant it as constructive criticism. And I’m glad you are actively working on improving your grip. Staying humble and learning every day is something we all need and it allows us to grow. I appreciate the video and your comments.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +4

      @@westhompson574 good for you. 👍

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +2

      @@timrobinson6573 appreciate that, and I'd say everyone here is right. I certainly caused some, but not all of them.

  • @davewebster5120
    @davewebster5120 Рік тому +8

    Thanks for putting in the time and money. Great presentation all around. This is great data.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate the feedback Dave; thank you!

  • @warweaponx6629
    @warweaponx6629 Рік тому +10

    Great video. Im at 650 rounds across 8 magazines through two different pistols 48/43x with no malfunctions other than failure to lock back 6 times on two of the mags. I trust these and had terrible results with the shield gen 2 mags.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      I hope these keep running well for you!

  • @fog8969
    @fog8969 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for doing the summary first. Time is life.

  • @Nick-zb4bp
    @Nick-zb4bp Рік тому +8

    Man I have been waiting for a video like this for these mags. I hope your channel can grow. These rounds are soooo squished in these magazines that I wonder if it is the Nickel plating that was the difference. I am torn over the 17 failures. If I want to get this gun. But if I shoot 2,000 rounds with my Glock 19 I have zero failures. One thing I would love to see for as a long term test- Load one of these mags up with 15 of your hollow points and let them sit in your closet for a year then run some tests to see how good the spring is. Anyways thanks for the time and money put into this.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +3

      For sure man, we don't expect perfection but 17 felt like a lot. That said, once we looked at all the factors, we felt that these were good for concealed carry. As I mentioned in reply to your other comment, there's a lot of upward pressure against the slide, caused by these mags. Definitely seems that hotter ammo is more reliable in them. Thanks for your comments and the well wishes 👊

    • @joebauers3746
      @joebauers3746 Рік тому +3

      @@aj_coutts Were there more failures at the beginning of the mag or near the end? Too much spring pressure will usually cause problems in the first shot when mag is loaded to max.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +2

      @@joebauers3746 there were a few issues going into battery fully (3), otherwise no they were sporadic

    • @fog8969
      @fog8969 Рік тому

      In addition to it's regular 124 HST, Federal makes some 124 HST that is +P, which is hotter than the regular HST. Not sure if Glock OKs +P in that subcompact model. You could email or call and ask them without mentioning that you're running the PSA mags. The +P would probably cycle better, but you'd have hotter recoil.

    • @fog8969
      @fog8969 Рік тому

      @@joebauers3746 Might be interesting to compare loading 15 with loading 14 instead. Shoot 20 or more mags of each alternating each time.

  • @mi777ke777
    @mi777ke777 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the time put in and giving us the summary early. Easily subbed and liked.

  • @robertjcountryman3727
    @robertjcountryman3727 7 місяців тому

    love the detail of your video!!! awesome info

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  7 місяців тому

      Appreciate that brother!

  • @FluffPuffkotj
    @FluffPuffkotj Рік тому +4

    Now I need to convince someone to do this with oem mags for comparison.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Man that would take a long time at 10 rounds each 😆😆

  • @chrisf828
    @chrisf828 9 місяців тому

    Good to see videos like this 👍 I want to love them but I had my own issues. After putting them through some range time, I tested them loaded for edc and let them sit. When I tried them only 2 rounds fed successfully and the rest were stuck. I needed to pull each round out until the spring finally pushed the rest up. If I needed them I wouldn’t have had them. G26 with G19 mags and xgrips is the closest I’ll get to a trustworthy subcompact with 15rd capacity. Shadow Systems CR920 with their 13rds was what I ultimately chose for slimline carry option.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  9 місяців тому

      Super helpful info, thank you for sharing! Yeah the CR920 is very interesting, hoping to get one to try out

  • @randaddy9218
    @randaddy9218 Рік тому

    Great review thanks for actually showing the failures big thumbs up

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Happy to be transparent, it's the only way for you to decide if you're willing to consider these

    • @randaddy9218
      @randaddy9218 Рік тому

      Too many people on UA-cam for getting stuff like this and just going yes it's good and not even trying them it drives me nuts

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      @@randaddy9218 you are correct, that's why we're trying to do things a bit different

    • @randaddy9218
      @randaddy9218 Рік тому

      Well it's greatly appreciated I hope your channel is successful there's a lot of guntubers I guess we'll call them that are way more popular then they should be your channel deserves success 👍

  • @frenzy2223
    @frenzy2223 Рік тому +1

    Awesome review, thanks!

  • @Bob_Bob_B0b
    @Bob_Bob_B0b Рік тому

    Love the music on this when you zone out. Felt like an old megaman updated track thats giving off good chill energy. Got a nostalgia hit for sure.
    Ive not had bad luck with my shield arms mags but having a steel mag release makes me not want to use factory mags. With these you save money on mag cost and on not needing a new mag catch. Thanks for testing.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Thanks Bob - it was harder than I anticipated to choose good music, so I'm glad you enjoyed it!
      Good to hear you've not had issues with those. Wish you were the norm, but unfortunately most of us haven't gotten good performance from them 😕

    • @Bob_Bob_B0b
      @Bob_Bob_B0b Рік тому

      @@aj_coutts yeah its very strange. I'm wondering if its a qc issue. From what I've seen its been about 50 50 if they work or not.
      Do you mind telling me where you found the music? I cannot find that rockin jockin commercial vibes when I search Google.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      @@Bob_Bob_B0b honestly it was stock music available in Microsoft Clipchamp 🤣
      And definitely could be, but also there could be a design flaw that doesn't always interfere. Something that's not quite right, but doesn't always go wrong too

    • @Bob_Bob_B0b
      @Bob_Bob_B0b Рік тому

      @@aj_coutts its very odd. Thanks for the reply man. Earned a sub. God bless the 2a.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      @@Bob_Bob_B0b thank you 🇺🇲

  • @AJUSA1
    @AJUSA1 Рік тому +1

    Sick! PSA is the best!

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +2

      They definitely make some awesome stuff!

    • @AJUSA1
      @AJUSA1 Рік тому +1

      @@aj_coutts For sure! That mag changes the entire concealed carry market in America. Super Awesome!

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      @@AJUSA1 it does!!

  • @brandondavidson543
    @brandondavidson543 Рік тому

    Great video brother, love the content 🤛🏻

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Appreciate that brother, gotta get you in some!

  • @reytaino9654
    @reytaino9654 Рік тому +2

    That failure to go into battery at 9:16 was probably the left thumb riding the slide

  • @zackbenedict9142
    @zackbenedict9142 Рік тому

    Awesome review and quality, you guys went big on this. Great job!

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      Thank you, Zach

    • @zackbenedict9142
      @zackbenedict9142 Рік тому

      @@aj_coutts thinking about trying these out, I like the idea I don’t have to change the mag catch out, I’ve ran the shield arms magazines in a Glock 43x I used to have but recently acquired a new one this will be the direction I go in

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      @@zackbenedict9142 seems like a great idea to me - hope it works well for you :)

  • @JoelGandara
    @JoelGandara Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this video. Very well done.

  • @lseguias
    @lseguias Рік тому

    Information greatly appreciated!

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Appreciate your comment, thank you!

  • @brett9382
    @brett9382 Рік тому

    I used to be a "100% all oem glock" type of person until my old man pick up a gen 5 glock 20 and had so many failure that for most ammo types we couldnt get through a mag. Now im under the though process of change anything you want on the gun but more importantly than anything put as much lead through the gun as possible to make sure its reliable in its current setup.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Great thoughts, I agree completely. The reliability of the system is what matters the most!

  • @popa213
    @popa213 Рік тому +5

    In my opinion 17 failures out of 2000 isn’t bad if the causes of those 17 issues were understood as to why they happened. I’ve had 2 issues with my g43x with OEM mags but I only shot maybe 200 rounds out of it. Those malfunctions were due to limp wristing which was at no fault of the gun.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      We all agreed they weren't that bad. Some definitely were my fault, some were not. At the end, removing the ones caused by shooters, especially with the hollow points, showed these are very reliable magazines.

    • @shadezactual2657
      @shadezactual2657 Рік тому +1

      its curious how the majority of the failures happen with one shooter

  • @Timinator004
    @Timinator004 Рік тому +2

    My "slick" mag just came in the mail yesterday, sits just as flush in the gun as the factory mags and slides in/out smoothly loaded or unloaded. Wish I could test it out today but of course all ranges are closed lol.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +2

      Awesome, we can't wait to test them too!

    • @Timinator004
      @Timinator004 Рік тому

      @@aj_coutts I'll be on the lookout for the video!

  • @harris7066
    @harris7066 Рік тому +2

    This is only a sample of one.
    I continued my testing and I’m getting a failure to feed every 5-10 rounds. In my opinion these mags are completely in reliable.
    Upon further inspection it seems like the follower is getting snagged somewhere. I’ve filed down the follower and the inside of the mag. It seemed to help, but I haven’t tested it yet.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Definitely sounds like you're having issues with them 😕 to be clear, we had 4 mags with about equal failures between each

  • @bowl816
    @bowl816 Рік тому

    Thanks for the review on these. They look promising to me. I would love to see the pistol as well when It comes out.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Thank you! Hoping to get it when it drops, no doubt

  • @sr6894
    @sr6894 Рік тому +3

    Try this same test with the factory mag?

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      We arent interested in carrying the factory mags, so no. Trying to get more out of the platform, ya know?

  • @Tapered3414
    @Tapered3414 9 місяців тому

    I don't have one with me yet, but I think they are reliable and I greatly appreciate your time and effort ( 20% failed ) also several factors such as expansion due to heat-friction.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  9 місяців тому

      Appreciate the comments! It's been helpful to see and hear about others experiences as well, helps us see the bigger picture beyond just our experience

  • @fog8969
    @fog8969 Рік тому +2

    Hoping to be able to pick up some of these. I signed up for a back-in-stock alert with PSA, nothing yet. Will check again today. The 43X is so light on mass that makes it more difficult to control recoil than with a G19. So I'm hoping the extra 5 rounds will add enough mass to mitigate that a bit for those quick, critical, self-defense first 2 or 3 rounds, which of course I hope and pray that I'll never, ever, not ever have to send.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      I'll admit I was surprised by the 43X with these. Definitely ran easier than I expected, tho still snappy. Hope you never need those

    • @blewis66112
      @blewis66112 Рік тому

      They're in stock now. Just bought some.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      @@blewis66112 sweet, thanks for the heads up!

    • @HarryManback0
      @HarryManback0 Рік тому +1

      They took 23 days from the day I ordered to be delivered.

    • @SodiusMax
      @SodiusMax Рік тому

      ​@@HarryManback0they got way better with the 2nd wave. Ordered at 5PM last Friday and they landed yesterday.

  • @adamshoff4793
    @adamshoff4793 Рік тому +16

    Amazing video, and I really appreciate the time and money investment that you spent to put it together. Great work! I’m sure the number of subscribers will increase exponentially if you keep putting out Contant like this.

  • @broganscotch5116
    @broganscotch5116 Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @mr.blanco6763
    @mr.blanco6763 Рік тому +5

    1k rounds. Aftermarket trigger, and 2lb striker spring. Zero issues so far

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +2

      Great stuff!

    • @fog8969
      @fog8969 Рік тому

      If you happen to know, what is the weight of the factory striker spring in a 43X? Thanks.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      @@fog8969 I don't know, sorry

    • @mr.blanco6763
      @mr.blanco6763 Рік тому +2

      @@fog8969 it’s 5.5 LB

    • @mr.blanco6763
      @mr.blanco6763 Рік тому +1

      I changed out my 2lb spring after 2 light strikes. Can’t trust it for EDC. 4LB striker spring is a safe bet for a lighter trigger

  • @Reggiie3x
    @Reggiie3x Рік тому

    Good job bro!! For your first video. Im going to like and subscribe! I just got my magazine today and ill post a video soon also

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      Thank you, excited to see how you make out!

  • @robertjcountryman3727
    @robertjcountryman3727 7 місяців тому +1

    how long is it ok to leave spare mags loaded in storage ?

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  7 місяців тому

      I have some that have been consistently loaded for 5+ years. Not that you should do that normally, but my carry mags are basically always ready to go. So far they still run well

  • @NoamLevys
    @NoamLevys 9 місяців тому

    Your failures happens because of your grip dear friend, your thumb makes friction to the slide try to change your grip. Great video!!!

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  9 місяців тому

      Appreciate the input man. This has been extensively discussed in this comments, and admittedly our grips did impact some of these failures. That said, the thumb wasn't the cause of it, in my belief. Plenty of advanced shooters choose thumbs high, and with good reason.

  • @epps1217
    @epps1217 Рік тому +1

    Dang. Wish I saw this before I ordered 2.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Did you watch our conclusion around the 4 min mark?

    • @epps1217
      @epps1217 Рік тому +2

      @@aj_coutts yeah I watched the whole video. 17 is a lot.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      @@epps1217 gotcha. Try them for yourself, you may find different results

  • @harris7066
    @harris7066 Рік тому +1

    I finally got one for myself. So the first 150 rounds I had 4 failure to feed. It looked the same as your failures.
    I took apart the magazine, wiped down the follower, spring and housing and had no issues the next 100 rounds.
    I didn’t discover this till I got home but I think the primary issue is the back ridge of the round is getting caught as it exits the mag causing the nose to flip up. I compared it to the Glock mag and on the Glock mag the round slides out smooth. I took some pliers and widened the top of the mag and the rounds are now coming out smooth. I think this will fix the failure to feed issue.
    Time will tell. Need to do more tests. Overall I like the quality of the magazine.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Very interesting thoughts. We'll have to look at that and compare them. Hope the mags keep running for you!

  • @FloridaRealEstateShow
    @FloridaRealEstateShow Рік тому +1

    Thank you

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Appreciate it, happy to help!

  • @chrissarno7556
    @chrissarno7556 Рік тому

    The only reason you had failures is most likely due to weaker target ball ammo, or intentionally under-powered JHP's, these Dagger Micro mags are heavily sprung, so much so that its very difficult to actually load them to 15 rds, I doubt most people will get beyond 14, which is just fine. The way these in the 43X is with hotter 9mm ammo, nato ball, +p, and +P+ ammo until break-in is reached! I have seen everyone running weak ball have issues, and not one running nato ball, or +P have any problems whatsoever. Run hotter ammo to help compensate for that extra stiff magazine spring and you are most likely golden! The reason for this superior function of the PSA's over SA's mags is that the micro daggers were deliberately engineered to function inside a micro dagger, which is an almost exact G43/43X/48 clone(internally), the stiff mag springs will soften up over a few weeks and then you can run the weak ass target ball through them all you wish too. PSA has always manufactured nice magazines!

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Great thoughts Chris, we appreciate you sharing them! We agree that weak ammo was a lot of the problem, and have a new video being edited now with hotter ammo and some new mags ☺️

  • @Texas_Takeover
    @Texas_Takeover Рік тому

    Nice, can't wait to get mine in the mail this week. (took forever to ship)

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      I've heard times are bad, glad we ordered when we did. Hope they run great for you!

  • @harris7066
    @harris7066 Рік тому +1

    I had the same issue with failure to go into battery on my G48. I found with a high grip and my thumb on the slide I was preventing the slide from cycling properly.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +3

      Great point for sure. One thing we all noticed during this review was major hand fatigue. 2k rounds in 3 hours definitely was more than we normally shoot, and our hands struggled to do their job by the end

    • @Nick-zb4bp
      @Nick-zb4bp Рік тому +1

      @@aj_coutts lots of the failures happened at the very begging tho right?

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      @@Nick-zb4bp correct, and that seemed to be related to the ammo being lower pressure and the magazines having a higher pressure on the slide than "normal" (due to their heavy springs). The hollow point ammo has more pressure, making it easier for the slide to move against the resistance of the magazine.

  • @MourningConstitution
    @MourningConstitution Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @Andrew_Dominik
    @Andrew_Dominik Рік тому +5

    I appreciate the time and money you put into this video but I have some questions/remarks. At least some of the malfunctions were user induced and by a particular shooter. I read in the comments an admission that gripping and shooting the gun for so long along with the heat affected his grip and even bloodied his hands which caused some or most of the malfunctions. If you were willing to spend close to 2k dollars in guns and ammo why did you not account for factors that would muddy the ability to point to if the magazines caused the malfunctions or something else, those being multiple shooters, multiple guns, heat, inconsistent gripping, etc? Could you guys not have spread out your shooting enough to avoid bloody hands and excessive heat that is not realistic in a self defense situation? Why rush the test? You shot 2k rounds and there's so many uncontrolled factors that the data is practically useless in addressing whether the magazines alone were unreliable.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for your thoughts. Some of these things didn't appear til hindsight. Given that the defensive ammo performed well, we feel that the review is, in fact, helpful and conveys good information.

  • @joeflowers9084
    @joeflowers9084 Рік тому

    Did you check for flashing and remove any/smooth things out before starting the review? 17 isn't acceptable, but if you had user/gun errors, I could see that. I generally expect a gun to shoot 2000rds without a failure...even without cleaning (though a few drops of oil is fine).

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Good thoughts!
      We did not check for flashing.
      Yes, it would be higher than acceptable, but the number alone doesn't tell the story well

  • @GunInsights
    @GunInsights Рік тому +1

    I saw a pic recently of some plastic flashing/burr inside the mag, so maybe look into that if you haven't. I only have 600rds through my mag #1, and 100rds through #2 and #3. But I also have a "Micro Slick" mag on the way to test. I trust mine 100% with my ammo (124gr AE and S&B as well as 124gr HST).

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      I have not disassembled mine, but definitely have heard of burrs from other people. Definitely think 124 gr ball ammo would have produced drastically different results on that part of our test

    • @cincinnatiking8008
      @cincinnatiking8008 Рік тому +2

      My slide wasn't locking back, so I took it apart and sure enough there was a burr hanging.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +2

      @@cincinnatiking8008 great info!

  • @gerardwalker1006
    @gerardwalker1006 Рік тому

    About to buy two right now one slick one and one black one

  • @mavrikmavrik3032
    @mavrikmavrik3032 Рік тому +1

    Great video guys! The failures to feed are concerning. Did you see more failures at the beginning of the test? Did the mags seem to get more reliable towards the end of the testing? Also do you think the ammo could have contributed to some of the failures?

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +2

      Thank you! Yeah the failures got progressively fewer as we shot more. But also, once we switched to the hotter ammo pretty much all of them stopped. I think 124gr ball ammo would have run much better than 115

    • @SodiusMax
      @SodiusMax Рік тому +1

      ​@@aj_couttsThat seems consistent with most of the forum test reports I've read. The people who did have (mercifully few) issues pretty much all had it happen on 115 grain ammo.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      @@SodiusMax makes sense, moar pressure=moar gooder 😀

  • @keatonbeer9674
    @keatonbeer9674 9 місяців тому

    Where did you buy those 50rd boxes of hst!?

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  9 місяців тому

      Somewhere online, can't remember for sure

  • @IjustWANTbothTEAMStoHAVEfun

    Well done video, I'll get hate for this comment though. I had about or maybe a few more malfunctions with my stock 43 &48s with stock mags. Went back to a glock 19 &26

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      Nothing wrong with doing what works best for you 👏 appreciate the kind remarks

  • @davva360
    @davva360 Рік тому

    I finally have one shipping to me. I will test it and see how it does. If it is reliable it will be my carry mag.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Love it, hope you have results similar to ours 👏

  • @bosullivan7
    @bosullivan7 8 місяців тому

    After watching a million Micro Dagger review/failure videos, I may wait for "gen 2" to come out and see if PSA has worked out any of these issues...

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  8 місяців тому +1

      Seems like a solid strategy. Certainly there is some for improvement

  • @thatoneguy454c
    @thatoneguy454c Рік тому +3

    Some of the malfunctions dont seem to be mag related. Now run 2000 rounds with the OEM mags and see if you get a similar failure rate. Personally i am extremely skeptical of after market mags. I have some of the 9 round g43 mags and i wont carry them yet because i haven't put enough rounds through them to confirm reliability. My g43 has only ever malfunctioned maybe 2 times out of probably 2600ish rounds. That is including shooting with the 9 round mags. So far they have been 100% but i have only put about 900 rounds down range with them. I ordered somenof the PSA mags for my 48 MOS, so we shall see how they do. If i can go 1000 with no malfunctions then i would probably be comfortable carrying them.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      Good point, some definitely weren't! We discussed this in another comment thread further down. Nothing is ever 100% reliable, once I've cleared 99.5% or so I'm willing to use it. 2 of the 3 hollow point failures were likely from us shooting too much in one day and getting poor form. So, if I'm removing those, then we're at 99.9% success for defensive ammo with these mags. That's a HUGE increase over Shield Mags.

    • @bangmateo7481
      @bangmateo7481 Рік тому

      9 rd mags?

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      @@bangmateo7481 15 rounds

    • @joebauers3746
      @joebauers3746 Рік тому +1

      @@aj_coutts He was talking about the G43 SA mags, I think.

    • @joebauers3746
      @joebauers3746 Рік тому

      @@bangmateo7481 He is talking about the Shield Arms 9rd Glock 43 mags.

  • @timrobinson6573
    @timrobinson6573 Рік тому +1

    Have you contacted PSA? I had the same FTF as you. I contacted them and they asked me to send my pistol to them with the mags for evaluation so they could figure out the issue. They have my gun and mags right now but just called me and said they can't replicate the FTF. They also asked me to drive to their Summerville location to show the engineers what I was doing when the FTF appeared. They said they can't get anyone to send them their gun when they have issues and really want to work with anyone who will help.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      This is super interesting, I have not contacted them but may after reading this. Good to hear they want to make it right

    • @timrobinson6573
      @timrobinson6573 Рік тому +2

      @@aj_coutts What's also interesting is that all of the malfunctions you had happened with the black Glock 48.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      @@timrobinson6573 that was moreso because it was the one we shot the most

    • @timrobinson6573
      @timrobinson6573 Рік тому +1

      ​​@@aj_couttsi got my gun and mags back from PSA. The head of pistol operations kept in touch with me during the week they had my gun. They fired 600 rounds with no malfs. He sent my gun back with the original 2 mags and 6 new mags. I tested all 8 mags today with 300 rounds and everything is good so far. Kind of a mystery what was happening. They also sent me a T&E version of their not yet released MC-1 slide as a thanks for sending in my gun.

  • @jdk_360
    @jdk_360 Рік тому

    I just got a 48 mos. It’s a tough call going aftermarket mags. I really want the 15 rounds but at least now I have 10 that are almost certain to feed. I would rather get these over the shield mags. I’ll probably get a couple and run the heck out of them.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Sweet man, give them a go! I am sitting here right now editing an update video for these mags, which will publish this Friday (9/8) at 7pm. You'll be encouraged by our results

    • @jdk_360
      @jdk_360 Рік тому

      @@aj_coutts don’t threaten me with a good time! I’m on palmettos website right now doing stuff and things

  • @dylanholbrook6239
    @dylanholbrook6239 Рік тому +5

    3 out of 1000 is completely unacceptable 0.3% faulure rate or 99.7% success. I would need more testing. I disassembled the two i got and ensure the spring was attached to the follower correctly, removed some polymer shards from the inside mag body, ensured follower movved freely. The dowl rod cycled the spring a few times. 100% reliable for the first 350 ish or so i have on them. My oem glock 43 magazine had similar issues actually.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +4

      I obviously disagree with your assessment on what is an acceptable rate of failure, but you bring up a good point about disassembling and inspecting. Thanks!

    • @dylanholbrook6239
      @dylanholbrook6239 Рік тому

      @@aj_coutts well, to be fair, the 3 malfunctions with the 124 was a light strike and barely out of battery twice (of I recall) which isn't bad, but the difference between 99.9% and 99.7% is a malfunction reduction of 66%. These are not adverse conditions.
      It seems like the rsa is an important factor, and the slimline seems to age faster. The 15 rd magazines put a lot more upward pressure on the slide, and that added friction reduces the cycling energy.
      The PSA magazine has the same internal diameter and length as a Glock 19 magazine, and the follower is (as close as I can tell) an exact copy of the Glock 19 follower. However the PSA spring is a lot longer and stiffer. The PSA spring is longer then a Glock 17 10 coil spring (I don't have a 11 coil 19x, 19rd spring to compare). I haven't done enough testing but I suspect these magazines would run better with a OEM Glock 10 coil spring. The Glock spring interfaces with the PSA baseplate and follower perfectly.
      The Glock 23 (19 length magazine) used the 10 could spring (Glock 17 spring) so the 10 coil spring in that magazine body dimension is proven to work. The stiffer spring solve cycling issues in the 23 with a flashlight.
      Just some of my thoughts. It's a great video, and you did a good job! Just odd I haven't had a single issue, and I've used some weak ammo to test. But I also don't have the round count yet.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      @@dylanholbrook6239 great thoughts all around man, would be interesting for sure to disassemble these micro dagger mags and start swapping parts around.
      I look at that failure rate as just real life, honestly. Nothing works perfectly 100% of the time, and as someone above mentioned a high grip and finger on the slide definitely adds to the possibility of a battery issue when combined with this mag. Given than we were around 1500 rounds into the day when those battery issues showed up with the 124s, I can't help but feel as though they're abnormal malfunctions. At some point, I'm willing to accept one or two and just be sure I practice reloading, which I would do regardless of the failure rate.
      Thanks for the thoughts and remarks, we greatly appreciate them!

    • @invictawarrior
      @invictawarrior Рік тому +1

      Does a semi-auto that never fails for one reason or another actually exist? What is the average mean failure rate on say a Sig or OEM Glock? And could this be considered that much higher? Inquiring minds want to know.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      @@invictawarrior I'm sure someone knows the average, but I don't. However, that's the way I look at it, too. Some failure is basically inevitable, so I train reloads and clearing too.

  • @wooddawg4868
    @wooddawg4868 Рік тому +1

    A failure to eject is not a magazine problem, it's the grip slowing slide momentum. Some reviewers have these makeshift wannabe swat grips riding the slide locks etc that are misleading.
    I have 3 PSA magazines that I cleaned before use and they work flawlessly with FMJ and hollowpoint ammunition to the tune of 500 rounds. You guy's grip holds are your problem because I have seen similar malfunctions with different guns with people who use those types of grip holds. Once the grip hold was changed malfunctions ceased 100%

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      appreciate your comments 👍👍

  • @Ellopez05
    @Ellopez05 Рік тому +1

    Can’t say for sure but looks like your grip with your left thumb is riding the rail and inducing most of the malfunctions.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      To some extent, yes. The lower pressure 115gr rounds had more failures, likely because of my thumb. Smaller platforms tend to be more picky, so I've since pivoted to keeping my thumb down on these.

  • @atAlyssabeth
    @atAlyssabeth Рік тому

    Excess Arms released a +5 for these, I hope they work cause I’d basically have a Glock 19 that’s slim. I been loving the 48 and got a comp for it

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Ohhh haven't looked at those, sweet!!

  • @DesertTactical
    @DesertTactical Рік тому

    Subbed!😊

  • @MyCatCarriesAGlock
    @MyCatCarriesAGlock Рік тому +4

    Every time the guy in green draws, he's putting his support hand on his holster and bringing both hands together down near his hip. That's a potential safety issue if he starts going too fast and accidently muzzles himself.
    He should have his support hand resting on his chest and bring his primary hand up to his support hand.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      You are correct, and it was addressed as soon as it was noticed. Thanks for pointing it out 🙂

  • @V22D
    @V22D Рік тому

    I ordered mines last week for my Glock 43x still waiting on it to ship hopefully they come in this week I really wanna try them out

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      I hope they come soon, we really enjoyed shooting/testing them!

    • @V22D
      @V22D Рік тому

      @@aj_coutts i hope so too i wanna have fun like ya’ll did ,thanks for the video all subscribe so i can see some more of that good content

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      @@V22D much appreciated man, thank you 👏

    • @popa213
      @popa213 Рік тому +1

      I’ve been waiting for the 7 mags I order for a week and a half now.

  • @alexs1972
    @alexs1972 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this. 15 rounds sounds great but a 1% chance that my gun malfunctions before it gets through those is not worth risking my life on.. I'll stick to the manufacturer provided mags for now. Maybe if the issues are addressed by PSA ill reconsider, but for now, no thanks

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +2

      It the failures in the ball ammo had kept up during the testing of the hollow points, I'd feel the same way for sure

  • @ericbergfield6451
    @ericbergfield6451 Рік тому +1

    I didn't know PSA made Glock-clone mags...

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      Yep, they're for their Micro Dagger G43X clone that's coming out

  • @skippy7896
    @skippy7896 Рік тому

    I've ran 500 rounds through 2 of the psa mags without any failures. Tried the other 15 round mags and had nothing but constant failures with them.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      Great info, thanks for sharing!

    • @SagaGun
      @SagaGun Рік тому

      What ammo did you use ?

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      @@SagaGun this was 115 blazer ball ammo, if I remember right.

  • @kenna.9368
    @kenna.9368 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m so sold on Glock’s reliability that I trust my life on third party unreliable and flawed magazines. 😬 maybe I should just by a Hellcat Pro or X Macro with 15/17 rounds standard 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  10 місяців тому

      appreciate the input! To be fair, this video is for those who are interested in upping their Glock capacity. If you watch to the end, you'll see that the majority of the issues were not mag related.

  • @historybuff1993
    @historybuff1993 Рік тому

    Saw he was at 99 subs, decided to be 100 lol

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      Thanks man, I was wondering who would be #100!

  • @fubuh8r
    @fubuh8r 7 місяців тому

    15% failure rate.Good practice for remedial action.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  7 місяців тому

      Where did you get 15% from? 🙄

    • @joshj7012
      @joshj7012 4 місяці тому

      17÷2000. Should come out to like .8%

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  4 місяці тому

      @@joshj7012 math isn't everyone's strong suit 🤷

  • @Humanperson917
    @Humanperson917 Рік тому

    How many failures did you have in the 43x? Seemed to me after watching you had most failures on the 48.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      We shot it way less. Had issues with it locking back, but that all ended up being my thumb sliding down. For brevity's sake, I edited that out of the footage as it was clearly user error. But the day we did this, it definitely got the least camera time

    • @Humanperson917
      @Humanperson917 Рік тому

      @@aj_coutts thanks for the response, i had a 43x with gen two shield mags and had failure after failure. ended up selling it, recently just bought another 43x(mos this time) and just purchased two psa mags. hoping for better reliability

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      @@Humanperson917 I hope they're reliable for you man! Ours ran well, the more we look back, the more we see that hot ammo and less user error likely would have lowered our failure count significantly

    • @timrobinson6573
      @timrobinson6573 Рік тому

      @@Humanperson917 What's the verdict? Are they reliable?

    • @Humanperson917
      @Humanperson917 Рік тому

      @@timrobinson6573 yea they are reliable. shot 600 rounds. not a single problem

  • @madeintexas1213
    @madeintexas1213 Рік тому +1

    Seems like all the ball ammo failures came from just one guy and his gun…

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Seems like you didn't watch very closely, but yes I had the majority of them. I also shot the most 🤷

  • @MrAlexito305
    @MrAlexito305 Рік тому

    I’ve had more issues with OEM mags in half that amount of rounds

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Bingo - guess Glock isn't exactly perfect, eh?

  • @francislee559
    @francislee559 Рік тому +2

    Your thumb is touching the slide.. down your thumb..

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      There's nothing wrong with a thumbs high grip, although I will admit that combined with the extra spring pressure of the 15 round mag against the slide could have been enough to cause some of the malfunctions we experienced. Will make it a point to keep them down next time and see how it goes

  • @vicoy9
    @vicoy9 Рік тому

    2k round but in how many magazines, it some kind of its not 2k per magazine,.. so how many round for it's mags???? Some kind of misleading test..

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      We used 4 mags, 500 rounds through each.

  • @AkiraFollower
    @AkiraFollower 9 місяців тому

    The mags are shit! PSA didn’t even bother to smooth the inside or design a baseplate that doesn’t bulge. James Yeager was prophetic.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  9 місяців тому

      How did they perform when you used them?

    • @AkiraFollower
      @AkiraFollower 9 місяців тому

      @@aj_coutts The follower got caught after firing the first two rounds ever. I’ve never had to sand the inside of a new magazine before. I’ll stick with OEM.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  9 місяців тому

      @@AkiraFollower yeah that sounds frustrating for sure! Can't blame you at all for staying with OEM in that situation

  • @mikebonar3702
    @mikebonar3702 Рік тому +1

    My glock 48 fails to go into battery all the time no matter what magazine I have in it has done that since it was new have 2000 rounds through it probably 60 of them we're like that all different kinds of ammo tap the slide bang I like glocks I don't baby them have had them out in down pouring rain for hours never had rust issues very durable gun but far from perfect the best running hand gun I have is a Beretta 92 never had hiccup 6000 rds and wife's g2c 1 stuck steel case on a hot gun with 1246 rds ran mags back to back cooled it off in a pond for couple minutes put 400 more thew no problem but if I look at that g2c wrong it will rust I'm going to get 43 slide see if it helps I'm thinking the 48 to much mass

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Sounds like you should get rid of that G48, definitely something wrong there.

    • @jcoolG192
      @jcoolG192 Рік тому +1

      Did you contact Glock about the issues?

  • @wardroland270
    @wardroland270 Рік тому

    Thanks guys. Great job. Good info. God bless.
    LETS GO BRANDON

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      Thank you! Merica 🇺🇲

  • @AVKingJamesBible
    @AVKingJamesBible Рік тому

    Too many failures to consider using in my carry gun.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      How many were with carry ammo? What was the cause of those failures? How many were influenced by the shooters doing too much shooting in one session?

  • @JB-uk7mn
    @JB-uk7mn Рік тому

    0.009 % failure rate

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      ☝️☝️☝️☝️

    • @joshj7012
      @joshj7012 4 місяці тому

      .85%. This is elementary school math, folks

  • @Aa-ron22
    @Aa-ron22 Рік тому

    So your the reason I can’t buy none cause there all sold out lmao

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      🤷 it's for science

    • @Aa-ron22
      @Aa-ron22 Рік тому

      So send me some for science lmao

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому

      @@Aa-ron22 we shot it all 🤣

    • @Aa-ron22
      @Aa-ron22 Рік тому

      @@aj_couttssend me a mag lol

  • @charles17508
    @charles17508 Рік тому +1

    Ill tell you i dont want a tiny gun for self defense i mean i would if it ran like a 19 but it dosnt .

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      If the capacity is the same and it runs well, then the only difference is how it fits into the person's hands or body (for concealment).

  • @charles17508
    @charles17508 Рік тому

    Jeezus talk about hyper extension with long haired grip wow looks crazy holding the gun like that 😳. I hate keyboard warriors I really try to give input without putting people down to hard I would rather get into a real fight over something real any day my friend.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      I was gonna troll you back, but I see you're actually posting some stuff unlike 99% of the keyboard warriors here. Carry on sir, but remember that what works for you isn't what works for everyone

    • @charles17508
      @charles17508 Рік тому

      If you watch me shooting I do some weird shit to like my hand that I swing behind my back while shooting one handed it looks so bad and I didn't know I was doing it so now I fixed and shoot better becouse I was able to correct thanks for not trolling that was not my intention.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      @@charles17508 we all have our quirks, no doubt man! Have a great day

  • @RefinedHonkey
    @RefinedHonkey Рік тому

    User error.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  Рік тому +1

      I checked out your channel so I could learn from you, but there's no videos 🤷

  • @kenshin034
    @kenshin034 Рік тому +2

    Better off MP 2.0 3.6 SubC/G26>43X not really saving much EDC matter fact it’s better to just download compacts to 10/12rd EDC🪶over smaller guns sometimes till this day SD9VE/G19 🪶👑s

    • @invictawarrior
      @invictawarrior Рік тому

      I tend to agree. People want a micro or sub-compact then want to carry 22 rds. in a mag , "Just in case" they run into a troop of 300lbs. ISIS meth heads.

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  7 місяців тому

      yes/no. I see your point, but there is a substantial difference in reality when choosing a micro compact instead of a compact

    • @kenshin034
      @kenshin034 7 місяців тому

      @@aj_coutts subcompact best especially for distance over micros they have a niche roll but if you have a one and done fighter compact/SC the way and would avoid micros anyway for HP reliability/barrier penetration plus your edc better have extended mag market 15/17/20/30rds crime comes In 3s w/30s nowadays

    • @aj_coutts
      @aj_coutts  7 місяців тому

      @@kenshin034 well that brings us back to the age old debate of 7 yards or less 🙄

    • @kenshin034
      @kenshin034 7 місяців тому

      @@aj_coutts micros not gonna get much done with multiples carrying high cap compacts at the 7 let alone through/under cars 🤣 same goes for the .45/10mm/5.7 fantasy boys finna be sitting behind a car with a big empty stapler,9/40 compact/SC all you need and is more than likely on friendly/fallen also only want to full size for .45/10mm just get tossed a 15 mid fight last mag 19x
      🥷🚘🔫😒🤭

  • @curtism-w6b
    @curtism-w6b Рік тому

    17 failures in 2k is a lot.