I checked the inside of the mag for any potential rough spots prior to taking it to the range. I just used my finger to feel... and then used a non-aggressive precision file from a set I got from Harbor Freight to gently file anything that wasn't perfectly smooth, being careful not to change any contours. Also, touched up afterward with some super fine 1200 grit sandpaper and ran a rag through to remove any particles. Super smooth operation now!
All of mine have fortunately run flawlessly (regular magazines, not slick). I disassembled them all when I got them to check for those very same issues and they were clean. Absolutely bone dry, however. A little light Remoil and they're smoother than silk. Fantastic tutorial video though!
Wrapping the sand paper around a chopstick or pencil helps with the internal part of the mag. I'd also say 100 grit is too rough. You want to start with at least 320 or 400 grit and finish it off with 800-1000 grit especially on that polymer.
All of my psa micro 15 round magazines are ftf between the 9th and 12th round and it’s plastic spews from molding the followers dragging on. You can see it no problem when you disassemble the mag. Sand it cut it with an exacto knife I’ve used a bronze bore brush with a drill and it works fine and they function flawlessly after that.
I had a burr inside the mag on the front where some black coating has torn causing me to only be able to load 2 rounds. I used a micro file kit and solved the problem. It’s a QC issue for sure. I love em but because of this QC issue I will only trust my life to the factory mags when it comes to carrying 😢
Have 2 PSA Micro slick for a Glock 48. When I got them having seen this video I took them apart and every thing looked smooth and finished with no burrs visible. Today I took them to the range and had multiple failure to feed on every loading of both magazines. After 250 rounds I gave up. I call PSA and because I am over 30 days I can't get my money back but had to fill out a form for warranty service. I got an automated reply stating after reading my complaint they will get back to me about what to do about the warranty. I saw on their website they are out of stock of these magazines. I have a pretty good feeling I am going to get screwed. I think this answers the question why Glock only has 10 round magazines for the slim line series.
Dude, reading this does kind of feel like you're going to get screwed. I'm sorry to hear that. Fingers crossed PSA does the right thing in a timely manner for you. If I had more DAGGER MICRO mags that worked, I would send you some.
I commented on your other video that I was having feeding issues with the (2) PSA mags I got. Iwill try this and see if it corrects the issue. I will keep you posted.
I’ve been seeing more issues with the micro slick finish vs the black painted version, not sure why but seems like a trend, also aftermarket triggers seem to have an impact on reliability with both versions.
Very interesting, I wonder if there is something there about the micro slick finishes having more issues than the standard or if it is a numbers issue. Maybe there are more micro slick finish mags in the wild than the regulars and that's why we are hearing more about them having problems? I have not heard about the triggers, but now I want to hear more.
I've been having issues with it sometimes feeding incorrectly, where the round is part way fed and partway not, and the action remains open. It stays stuck in the position until I remove the mag and rack the slide several times to force the round out. This is on a glock 43x with a complete PSA slide assembly.
@@Fideon I tried sanding it down and no, it didn't help. I just received the replacements from PSA and they have issues loading due to the plastic that sticks up inside the mag. I'm not going to return or replace them any more. I'm just going to keep them as my range mags to practice malfunction clearing. I will definitely not carry these when concealed carrying. I'm not sure what kind of liability PSA would have if someone wasn't able to use their weapon in self defense.
I just started carrying a new hellcat pro Oem mags 15 and 17 rd. Until glock gets with the times and make a 15 rd mag I will stop experimenting with 3rd party crap shoot mags.
@synthpunkmusick1661 honestly, I'm loving it. I have 1000 rounds through it with 0 malfunctions. I love the adjustable backstraps. The trigger is okay but not bad. It came with 4,17 round magazines.
My micro dagger magazine had a peeling vinyl liner on the inside that caused a FTF consistently every single time. Unfortunately I cant rely on this for my self defense EDC
@@BigTimberLodge No, there is a thin Vinyl layer on the inside of the magazine that will peel off like a sticker.. it lines the entirety of the magazine.
If they are running good for you now, I doubt you will have to do the fix. Just clean the mag occasionally and apply a light coat of gun oil and they will last you a long time. Keep us posted though!
If you read through the comments, you will see that this fox worked for the majority of people who were having the issues discussed but not all of them. Just being 100% honest. There are some other suggestions in the comments on how to fix this issue with a file instead of sandpaper.
I've had some failure to feed and the slide not locking back issues. I have reached out to PSA, and their response has been, "It might be the ammo I am using." I am going to try this method to see it helps.
@BigTimberLodge status report!!! First off, thank you so much for this video. I took apart both of my mags and saw that there were some polymer sticking out of the injection areas. I was able to sand it down with 120, 220, and 1000 grit (to smooth it out). Afterward, I added some oil to lubricate it. That was Friday when I did this. Today, I got back from the range. I put 260 rounds through both mags with various ammo. Ranging from hallow points to FMJ's, both 124 grain to 115 grain with no failure to feed. The slide was able to lock back after the last round. It was a good day at the range! So, thank you again for this helpful video, I hope other people will find this a useful solution as I did. Take care!
The mag catch areas on my two mags aren't fully covered in polymer like his are. The inner areas against the mag bodies are open with the silver body (I have the micro slick version) showing through. Anyone else's mags like this? Thanks!
Interesting you are the 2nd person in the past couple of weeks who got magazines like that. I wonder if it is a quality control check issue or a new design. Please keep the channel updated on your experience.
So I dont own a glock 43x yet but just about ready to get one after watching many hours of footage comparing the hellcat pro to it and the mag capacity is the only thing stopping me. Ive been looking into this and the SA mag to get up to 15 rounds but keep seeing people say they have problems with these mags and im looking for someone to put this issue to bed so i can pull the trigger on either the 43x or the hellcat pro. I wanted the hellcat pro because of the standard 15rnd mag but I like that the 43x is cheaper. Is it worth getting the hellcat pro to avoid this mag issue or is this an easy solid fix and just buy the 43x?
If any of the mags have these issues, then quality control is bad. Engineering should have known from the beginning that this would cause malfunction. Sounds like R&D lacked basic troubleshooting skills, also. If they were $12 each, maybe I could get my head around it, but they're $33. Do better PSA!
Obviously, you're an ungrateful twit. My magazine worked fine at the beginning of the video and didn't need to be fixed. I made this video to help others. Why would I actually sand my mag down if it already was working?
The issue with mine was that the rounds get stuck at the edge of the magazine when you push them forward by hand. I think it's due to uneven pressure coming from the spring. I tried doing this technique and now sometimes the spring won't come all the way up, and the rounds will be stuck deeper inside the magazine. I have to hit it and move it around and then it will eventually come back up.
@francsiscog interesting. Did you use a fine Grit Sandpaper? Did you wipe out the inside of the magazine and around the follower? Take some gun lube after wiping it out and lube up the spring and the magazine internal walls. I just left the range and my magazine ran perfectly. Keep us posted
@francsiscog your follower is getting stuck. If it is getting stuck at the same spot in the magazine, it is most likely a snag inside your magazine. Take a photo of your follower and inside your magazine and email it to me. Bigtimbersociety@gmail.com
Liked how you broke down the mag, explained each individual piece and then explained the issue and how to solve it. Simple and sweet thank you
Thank you. I made a part 2 you should watch with some better advice
I checked the inside of the mag for any potential rough spots prior to taking it to the range. I just used my finger to feel... and then used a non-aggressive precision file from a set I got from Harbor Freight to gently file anything that wasn't perfectly smooth, being careful not to change any contours. Also, touched up afterward with some super fine 1200 grit sandpaper and ran a rag through to remove any particles. Super smooth operation now!
I have always just used an exacto knife on the plastic goobers inside polymer mags and such. Works awesome
That is exactly what my gunsmith does as well. Great minds think alike.
All of mine have fortunately run flawlessly (regular magazines, not slick). I disassembled them all when I got them to check for those very same issues and they were clean. Absolutely bone dry, however. A little light Remoil and they're smoother than silk.
Fantastic tutorial video though!
Was it the all black magazines you bought instead of the black and silver?
Wrapping the sand paper around a chopstick or pencil helps with the internal part of the mag. I'd also say 100 grit is too rough. You want to start with at least 320 or 400 grit and finish it off with 800-1000 grit especially on that polymer.
Great idea using the chopstick or pencil. You're right about the 100 being aggressive.
All of my psa micro 15 round magazines are ftf between the 9th and 12th round and it’s plastic spews from molding the followers dragging on. You can see it no problem when you disassemble the mag. Sand it cut it with an exacto knife I’ve used a bronze bore brush with a drill and it works fine and they function flawlessly after that.
Mine as well!
I had a burr inside the mag on the front where some black coating has torn causing me to only be able to load 2 rounds.
I used a micro file kit and solved the problem. It’s a QC issue for sure.
I love em but because of this QC issue I will only trust my life to the factory mags when it comes to carrying 😢
This very timely recommendation is simple and effective, thank you!
You're welcome! Thanks for stopping by
Thanks. I didn't know how to take the PSA Rock 5.7 mag apart.
Lol, did this video about the Dagger Micro Magazine really help with the 5.7 mag disassembly?
4:02 And this is how new micro daggers are made.
Bruh. 😂 💀
Mrs. Timber watched the video and asked why I was making such provocative content. Then I showed her your content and she laughed so hard.
My only problem was hold open fail, stretched the spring a bit, no problem
Have 2 PSA Micro slick for a Glock 48. When I got them having seen this video I took them apart and every thing looked smooth and finished with no burrs visible. Today I took them to the range and had multiple failure to feed on every loading of both magazines. After 250 rounds I gave up. I call PSA and because I am over 30 days I can't get my money back but had to fill out a form for warranty service. I got an automated reply stating after reading my complaint they will get back to me about what to do about the warranty. I saw on their website they are out of stock of these magazines. I have a pretty good feeling I am going to get screwed. I think this answers the question why Glock only has 10 round magazines for the slim line series.
Dude, reading this does kind of feel like you're going to get screwed. I'm sorry to hear that. Fingers crossed PSA does the right thing in a timely manner for you. If I had more DAGGER MICRO mags that worked, I would send you some.
I had some double feed issues , lock back failures , and failure to extract casings… ima try this method Forsure!
watch part 2 first to see a video of another viewer's inside of the magazine he was having issues before he sanded his down and fixed the problem.
I commented on your other video that I was having feeding issues with the (2) PSA mags I got. Iwill try this and see if it corrects the issue. I will keep you posted.
Did it work?
Haven't done it yet, need to get sandpaper and get back to the range, just to much other stuff going on right now. I will let you know.
@blownbird97 as some viewers suggested in the comments. Get a much finer grit sandpaper than what I mentioned or a long round file.
I’ll do this to mine. The one (first) time I took it and ran 5 loads through it. Got double feeds on the first 3 and the last 2 did fine.
Keep the channel posted, we have a lot of great viewers here at the Big Timber Lodge who are eager to help each other out with issues.
I used an angle grinder and destroyed my magazine. The sand paper is a much better idea 😃 jk folks. Great video as usual Big Timber!
I tried using a blowtorch on my plastic mag to fix the issues I was having and now I just have a puddle of melted plastic.
I’ve been seeing more issues with the micro slick finish vs the black painted version, not sure why but seems like a trend, also aftermarket triggers seem to have an impact on reliability with both versions.
Very interesting, I wonder if there is something there about the micro slick finishes having more issues than the standard or if it is a numbers issue. Maybe there are more micro slick finish mags in the wild than the regulars and that's why we are hearing more about them having problems? I have not heard about the triggers, but now I want to hear more.
I've been having issues with it sometimes feeding incorrectly, where the round is part way fed and partway not, and the action remains open. It stays stuck in the position until I remove the mag and rack the slide several times to force the round out.
This is on a glock 43x with a complete PSA slide assembly.
I'm having the exact same issue on my 43x, did you do this fix and did it help?
@@Fideon I tried sanding it down and no, it didn't help. I just received the replacements from PSA and they have issues loading due to the plastic that sticks up inside the mag. I'm not going to return or replace them any more. I'm just going to keep them as my range mags to practice malfunction clearing. I will definitely not carry these when concealed carrying. I'm not sure what kind of liability PSA would have if someone wasn't able to use their weapon in self defense.
I haven't had a chance to try mine yet, but thanks for posting. Might need the info!
Hopefully, you don't. I doubt you will. Very few cases of this issue.
I dont have a 43X but I shot two mags off a buddies 43x with micro mags with zero issues.
I have two 43Xs. They are great guns.
@@BigTimberLodge agreed. However, I like the ergos on my PSA Micro a lot more. :)
Fair.i like ergos of my HK more too
I just received my mags and I cannot load more than 9 rounds in each. Very hard strong spring even if I use a loader.
Your sanding fix may help..
loading and unloading these mags have helped a lot. It is still tough to get the 15th round in, but I can do it now without a loader.
Good stuff sir! I have not gotten one of these mags yet. I cannot catch them in stock.
Sorry to hear that
I just started carrying a new hellcat pro Oem mags 15 and 17 rd. Until glock gets with the times and make a 15 rd mag I will stop experimenting with 3rd party crap shoot mags.
Makes sense. I picked up a Sig p365 x macro tacops with the 17 round magazines
@@BigTimberLodge Sweet how do you like it?
@synthpunkmusick1661 honestly, I'm loving it. I have 1000 rounds through it with 0 malfunctions. I love the adjustable backstraps. The trigger is okay but not bad. It came with 4,17 round magazines.
@@BigTimberLodgeit looks great just not much of a fan of that magwell ring on the bottom of the grip but the test looks great
@synthpunkmusick1661 the magwell comes off easily with a torque bit
Good to know, Thanks
No problem!
Thanks!
You're welcome
Sweet!
👍 great video
thank you
Thanks 👍
I've clean all the excess mold and my mags won't seat fully in my pistol with 15 rds. 14 rds they fit.
Interesting. That's a new issue I have never heard before. Have you reached out to PSA?
@@BigTimberLodge Yeah they told me the same thing to make sure I cleaned it out.
My micro dagger magazine had a peeling vinyl liner on the inside that caused a FTF consistently every single time. Unfortunately I cant rely on this for my self defense EDC
did it look like this on the inside? ua-cam.com/video/gHpZFKv-_mo/v-deo.html
@@BigTimberLodge No, there is a thin Vinyl layer on the inside of the magazine that will peel off like a sticker.. it lines the entirety of the magazine.
@@scottspiegel9078 can you email me photos at bigtimbersociety@gmail.com
Update no issues with my mag, but if I have feeding I will do that 5 min fix.😎👍🏻
If they are running good for you now, I doubt you will have to do the fix. Just clean the mag occasionally and apply a light coat of gun oil and they will last you a long time. Keep us posted though!
Did the fix worked thanks
If you read through the comments, you will see that this fox worked for the majority of people who were having the issues discussed but not all of them. Just being 100% honest. There are some other suggestions in the comments on how to fix this issue with a file instead of sandpaper.
I've had some failure to feed and the slide not locking back issues. I have reached out to PSA, and their response has been, "It might be the ammo I am using." I am going to try this method to see it helps.
Keep us posted on what the inside of your magazine looks like.
@BigTimberLodge status report!!! First off, thank you so much for this video. I took apart both of my mags and saw that there were some polymer sticking out of the injection areas. I was able to sand it down with 120, 220, and 1000 grit (to smooth it out). Afterward, I added some oil to lubricate it. That was Friday when I did this. Today, I got back from the range. I put 260 rounds through both mags with various ammo. Ranging from hallow points to FMJ's, both 124 grain to 115 grain with no failure to feed. The slide was able to lock back after the last round. It was a good day at the range! So, thank you again for this helpful video, I hope other people will find this a useful solution as I did. Take care!
@HTorres83 let's go!!!!! That's what I like to hear. I'm glad things worked out for you. Keep us posted on future range reports.
With enough rounds, it will eventually fix itself when worn used.
Id definitely use way finer sand paper like start with a 220 and finish with a 1 thousand up to 3 thousand grit .
oem or buy a better option like Hellcat Pro or X macro! Would you trust your life on a 3rd party magazine for some extra rounds lol 🤷🏽♂️
I bought a XMACRO TACOPS
@@BigTimberLodge good choice!
👍👍
Thanks
The mag catch areas on my two mags aren't fully covered in polymer like his are. The inner areas against the mag bodies are open with the silver body (I have the micro slick version) showing through. Anyone else's mags like this? Thanks!
Interesting you are the 2nd person in the past couple of weeks who got magazines like that. I wonder if it is a quality control check issue or a new design. Please keep the channel updated on your experience.
keep us posted@@nayneks
keep us posted@@nayneks
So I dont own a glock 43x yet but just about ready to get one after watching many hours of footage comparing the hellcat pro to it and the mag capacity is the only thing stopping me. Ive been looking into this and the SA mag to get up to 15 rounds but keep seeing people say they have problems with these mags and im looking for someone to put this issue to bed so i can pull the trigger on either the 43x or the hellcat pro. I wanted the hellcat pro because of the standard 15rnd mag but I like that the 43x is cheaper. Is it worth getting the hellcat pro to avoid this mag issue or is this an easy solid fix and just buy the 43x?
I haven't had an issue with my psa magazines and I own 5 of them
Don't blow out the dust just rinse it out or use a wet wipe
After a few rounds, the spring and follower just collapsed inside the mag..
Sounds like your baseplate broke. Did you identify the culprit?
If any of the mags have these issues, then quality control is bad. Engineering should have known from the beginning that this would cause malfunction. Sounds like R&D lacked basic troubleshooting skills, also. If they were $12 each, maybe I could get my head around it, but they're $33. Do better PSA!
Maybe just use the mag in an actual Dagger instead of a Glock?
Maybe so.
Obvious you don’t do much gun work the way u use sandpaper un supported = wrap it around something
Obviously, you're an ungrateful twit. My magazine worked fine at the beginning of the video and didn't need to be fixed. I made this video to help others. Why would I actually sand my mag down if it already was working?
I don't understand why anyone would even do this to a magazine.If there's an issue with them send them back for a refund and stick to oem accessories.
I agree. If you watch part 2 of this series that is one of the 1st things I say.
Because fixing things is easier? And then you have a working 15 round mag. Glock needs to just release a 15 round mag.
Because oem capacity fucking sucks
Maybe you got the magazines second hand.
I have an even better solution. If your magazine is defective, then return it to PSA for another one.
Agreed. That's what I say I'm the beginning of part 2.
Orient, not orientate😉
Ive got 50 million rounds thru my PSA micro dagger mags with zero malfunctions. Its operator error not the mags. Just kidding. Thanks for the tip. 👍
No, wrong brand. That's what the Sig guys say. 😛
I wouldnt take too much at face value from a Sig guy. It might have been an accidental discharge. Hee hee 😂 Glock guy signing out.
I tried this and it made it worse. I'd advise people not to do this.
I'm headed to the Range right now to see if you're right.
The issue with mine was that the rounds get stuck at the edge of the magazine when you push them forward by hand. I think it's due to uneven pressure coming from the spring.
I tried doing this technique and now sometimes the spring won't come all the way up, and the rounds will be stuck deeper inside the magazine. I have to hit it and move it around and then it will eventually come back up.
@francsiscog interesting. Did you use a fine Grit Sandpaper? Did you wipe out the inside of the magazine and around the follower? Take some gun lube after wiping it out and lube up the spring and the magazine internal walls. I just left the range and my magazine ran perfectly. Keep us posted
@francsiscog your follower is getting stuck. If it is getting stuck at the same spot in the magazine, it is most likely a snag inside your magazine. Take a photo of your follower and inside your magazine and email it to me. Bigtimbersociety@gmail.com