Friday Night Paper Fight - Commander Oathbreaker
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- Broadcast 2019-03-29
Decklists:
Ben - tappedout.net/m...
James - tappedout.net/m...
Cameron - tappedout.net/m...
Serge - tappedout.net/m...
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"That's not a static ability..."
"Can I attack your enchantment?"
LRR teased the new War of the Spark planeswalkers
Still amazed this went from our nonprofit lunch table to, well, all of this! :-)
Yeah, getting some noise behind ya.
So, how are you feeling now?
I imagine many players have fiddles about with Commander variants -- I know I have.
The big differences here all add up to create something that feels fresher than it appears (before playing it): smaller decks, Planeswalkers + signatures, and lower life totals.
I'm really hoping to get some players onboard with this, especially after Brawl failed at my FLGS.
Love the format, honestly.
Here from Command Zone, really looking forward to building more. So far I just keep losing to Bolas. Need more speed.
Thief of Blood: "Her hunger will not be denied."
Cameron: Counterspell
Haven't seen cam play Commander in ages, he should be in the Commander games more😁
KAzooo yea he doesn’t politics as much
Regirex Punching one person in the face till they stop twitching is politics in a way lol
Cam's admitted that Commander isn't have preferred format.
He really dislikes commander, a lot. Im sure they ask him he probably turns it down.
Not to mention TBH he is really really bad at these multiplayer formats you see that here. He was really off his game it took Ben literally calling out hey i think we need to kill serge I have lethal I need you to remove this angel from blocking for that to happen. It was super painful for me to watch cam struggle so much through this game I know he is a good player, just in 1v1 not multiplayer. With a deck like cam was playing having so many tricks and answers it is super easy to politic and gain advantage, we saw a bit of it when he was like i didnt counter that i didnt counter that, then counters the spell. The idea in multiplayer is the MULTI part of it, everyone else in some one was trying to do that except cam the one playing control the deck who should be playing the table the most.
Thanks for playing this awesome format guys and great content as usual! I'm actually just in the middle of editing a video to help introduce people to Oathbreaker since it's both fantastic and relatively unheard of right now.
I saw the TTC and HAD to build blue-black tezzeret with battle at the bridge
@@jacoblong1473 Love the flavor! My first deck is a Ashiok Glimpse the Unthinkable mill deck
@@RedZoneMTG im just finding this and thinking Boros Huatli tokens, running Assemble the legion in the 58. havn't decided on the signature yet
Sarkhan Unbroken with Sarkhan's Triumph
"The lion is jesus"...thank you Cameron
Everyone's family name ends with "ER"... playing Oathbreak"er"
Paul Sond"er" is on camera
Holy shit
In the words of the legendary Joseph Joestar, "OH MY GOOOOOOOD"
Joseph JoestER
Something tells me this format's gonna have a *_looooooootttta_* choices once War of the Spark hits.
New Nicol Bolas in an OB Super Friends deck is gonna be OP
Yep, 25% more than now
Ral Storm Conduit with Expansion//Explosion as the signature, 58 red and blue lands.
@@averyodowd6448 you might want some rocks, thinning, and the Izzet Guildmage/Lava Spike/Desperate Ritual combo. You know, just in case.
@@nicholasfarrell5981 maybe.
Gonna play Tibalt with act of treason....MY TIME HAS COME
Thanks for showing off this format, I love how it looks and I would be 100% up for building and playing this (if I had a playgroup!)
“Oh I totally have one of those - you never asked!”
I’ve seen this Friday Nights!
With Signature Spells being only playable when your Oathbreaker (Commander) is out, I can see cheap Planeswalker decks that revolve around their Signature Spell. In other words, TIBALT IS VIABLE, SORTA!
Also, all the "Oath of..." cards are flavor wins in this format I guess
You have to watch out for signatures that you'd want to cast a lot of times. Remember: it adds 2 mana every time you cast it.
@@Drecon84 TBH i wouldnt worry about that much, most good spells i would be willing to pay an extra 2 or 4 to play again. As far as the oath of cards go, like karn's temporal sundering.
I’ve brewed up a Tibalt/Battle Hymn Deck that has become the bane of my playgroup. I’ve combo’d off once and now every game is effectively an Archenemy game.
From most Oathbreaker games I’ve seen/played you will only cast your signature spell 1-3 times.
Building around a low/weak planeswalker will just get you destroyed by any aggro deck, which is a lot since aggro is very prevalent in Oathbreaker.
Also counterspells would bone your plan as well.
Serge: Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
Thanos agrees.
like balance...its right in the card name!
Love the werewolf deck ben!!! I'm all about wolves and werewolves and have a tribal commander deck with them. Great gameplay guys!
This format would be great with the new walkers and their signature card in War of the Spark.
I have a feeling that's why they did the signature spells
@@kristopherwatts9466 this has actually been a thing for 2 years, its just been getting a lot of exposure lately
Sadly, some of those spells are not Instants or Sorceries.
Bonus points for finding a card with the Planeswalker in the art.
my play group and I had an Oathbreaker session just now, and it was great fun! Much faster games, at least with our decks: four players, three games in less than an hour.
Still trying to figure out what the meta looks like, though.
My guess for the meta: Tamiyo, Field Researcher with a creature tutor (Worldly Tutor, Chord, Eladamri's Call) to get Deepglow Skate. Slam the Skate, get Ancestral Recall + Omniscience on an emblem absurdly early
alternatively, Tezzeret the Seeker plus Tezzeret's Gambit. Cast Tez, cast Gambit to proliferate him to 5 so he can survive tutoring for the Chain Veil. Untapping the Chain Veil should tell you everything you need to know
well, teferi combo got a tutor as his signature spell : fabricate to tutor chain veil.
saw this on twitch and was waiting for it to come out on youtube so that I can watch it again.
This format looks really fun!
I heard about this format, built an arlinn kord deck and then saw this video and was so happy that I got to see it in action.
Me: It's a nice friendly format, don't break it.
Inner me: but I want to see if I can.
I think wizards should push this format. Maybe even release their own precon decks for it.
Precons be a tad unnecessary since this seems pretty similar to commander. Still building a singleton around 1 or 2 cards with a multiplayer focus.
They sell Planeswalker decks. Maybe there is a chance, they get adjusted a little bit?
Agreed
thank you so much for the sentence " like balance, it's right in the name of the card" XD. Love it
"You could break it but... don't? Make decks and have fun with your friends." Boy you haven't met my friends... if I don't break it they will. But certainly looks fun, and we would all have the expectation of trying to do the stupidest broken thing possible.
Seldon Arcais a fellow spike I see
To be fair, that's what they all go on to say - as long as your group are all on the same page, being roughly as spikey as each other and matching power levels, that's all good and gonna lead to a great play experience - including if that consensus is 'go all out to make the most degenerate decks possible'.
My play group is the same, tezeret the seeker meechent scroll was their first thought followed by the new Narset with windfall, I’m playing the new kiora with overwhelming stampede with the plan of killing them pre combo
Xenagos, the Reveler and Signal the Clans. All creatures, all land ramp, all bombs. no other non creature, non land spells.
use Jaya's Inferno instead, kill 3 people at once
Beautiful
I'm very late to this party, but Serge, you could have survived game one (or at least bit longer) if you had remembered double triggers for Jitte when you hit with your double striker; you get 2 counters on the Jitte every time you deal combat damage with the creature.
Hey LRR-Crew, i think you meant Oathbreaker, not Oathbringer in the title.
@Daniel Nold is that even possible?
@@clelvis225 Of course it's not.
I wonder if the creators ever thought about making the signature spell an enchantment or artifact instead of an instant or sorcery.
That could easily go beyond broken, i'm sure they chose Instants & Sorceries on purpose.
The more I watch MTG as as adult. The more I realize I was a pain in the arse as a kid. I routinely played balance, armageddon, wrath of god, and swords to ploughshares in the same deck.
He could've just used Gideons 0 that says you can't use the game as long as you control a Gideon planswalker 1:22:30
I really thought that Chad would've been his commander. It's the one that most wants you to go Chad tribal right?
@@Drecon84 he did have Chad as his commander just not the Chad tribal specific Chad
@@redactedredacted3684 thought (that Chat), not (thought that) Chad
"Instant speed Planeswalkers, what could go wrong?"
3 years later, The Wandering Emperor has entered the chat
🎶This is a story bout a Chad
Winning Oathbreaker, he wants it really bad
And when I look into his library
I absolutely love the... mana curve🎶
... I'm not sorry.
I like those dice. They’re nice and large, easy to read. Anyone know what brand they are or where to get them?
You guys are gonna do more oathbreaker right?
I hope to see more Oathbreaker gameplays!
Vampires and werewolves usually ending up fighting on opposite sides.
1:18:13 "I have a rule's question"
"Yes, Judge?"
I built Nissa, world waker with Harmonize, because I can play Nissa and plus 1 to un tap 4 forests and immediately cast harmonize, and I don’t mind paying 6 or 8 mana to draw 3 cards when I’m ramping.
Hopefully we will get more Oathbreaker videos. I'm hooked a bit on them now and no one else has Oathbreaker videos.
Treasure Cruise by Cameron gets my vote for best Spikey spell, whereas Wrath pf God by Serge gets my vote for best synergy spell. And of course Anguished Unmaking is the best flavor, but I think that one was a low-hanging fruit.
New Kiora would be amazing in this format
I feel like serge should have got the chad emblem on his turn. It would have stopped him dying to the debt and no one was able to kill both his walkers and get him to 0 before his next turn. Then he would have been able to connect with the jitte at least once more and been in a better position
Flustered Cameron is a thing of beauty, to a certain extent, so is Chad Serge.
why do they keep playing spells and then putting it in the middle of the overlay where i can't see what they play?
because the card they play is the overlay?
they have a sensor in the middle of the table that automatically detects and shows the card
So Cam just refused to play a 4th land all those turns?
Awesome video as always from LRR. Currently Brewing a Jaya Ballard goblin storm deck because this format is so fun to explore right now. :3
Haven't finished the video but so far I like it. I'm really interested in this format as a commander player and I'll probably build a deck with Domri Rade and signal the clans as my signature spell.
wait. you can have a tutor as your signature spell... COMBO INCOMING
@LRR how hyped are u about the pre-prerelease (draft/sealed) for war of the spark and howmany days b4 will it be^^
PPR is always on friday before the regular pre-release
Excited to try and build an Ashiok deck. Not sure what to use from my collection for a signature spell yet, plus I don't have anyone to play with, but I am very excited to build for this format.
I already found a turn 3 win by accident.
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@@diggerdog9205 Temporal Trespass was the signature spell I went with, though there are many spells I can use as an instant win condition such as Fascination (I am not dedicated to the combo which is why I am using Temporal Trespass).
Turn 1 Land, Springleaf Drum
Turn 2 Land, Pili-Pala
Turn 3 Land, Grand Architect, use the drum for a blue mana to turn Pili-Pala blue, tap the other creature for 2 colorless, use that to untap Pili-pala and generate a mana of any color, repeat as necessary to cast Ashiok and then cast Temporal Trespass. Repeat during each of my extra turns until I find my main win condition and use it, with Ashiok being a secondary win condition while I am taking extra turns.
Why didn't Cameron cast supreme verdict??
So I'm getting back into mtg after a 6 year hiatus--the last time I played before a month ago was in the innistrad block--and ben's deck is giving me all the nostalgia lmao
the dovin voice cam makes is so good but i can't help but feel like it's a bad version of the slime voice from dice friends and i would love the buruecratic slime dovin don't know why but the way he deliveres its just something i need :D
I never thought I'd root against cameron yet here we are as James is playing my favorite planeswalker.
I think if I had to make a deck I would do Gideon Blackblade with Secure the wastes as his signature spell.
we have a saheeli, sublime artificer/thoughtcast and wrenn and six/crack the earth in our group. so glad they've banned most of the OP fast mana
Serge Ben Adam Graham for the post War of the Spark revisit to this format #please
Id rather kat instead of ben
More Oathbreaker!
As awesome as the combo would be, you can't use Sylvan Library to stack your Descendant's Path. Library happens in your draw step, and Path is in your upkeep.
Isn't it supposed to be set up for the next turn?
This is great format would love to see more . Any suggestions on other streams running the same format?
Serge forgot the time Chad had lots and lots of terrible magic advice as Twitch Chad
Wait...James doesn't keep a collection of cards? I never knew that.
PitFighterPlus I doubt that.
My playgroup is thinking of making decks for this, but I need inspiration on what to run. For peeps in the comments, what do you use?
Is this format any fun 1 v 1, or does it really need 3 or 4 players to make it shine? Just wondering if it might be a fun alternative to standard magic.
its functional depending on the deck
Could Ben have attacked and then moonmisted before damage?
Yes but he would deal no combat damage
Sorin Bob is my favorite Sorin.
I run him in an Orzhov Knight tribal deck.
Sorin Bob is a brilliant nickname. Thank you for enriching my life
1:06:16 - why didn't Serge attack first and the wrathed so he could get in for some damage?
why is serge running fetches in a mono color deck? It's not like his deck cares about lands in the graveyard
it still provides a slight amount of deck thinning and he has a all of them for highlander so why not use them
My signature spell is time walk?
gg?
Ah. Yes I see. Well if you'd linked to the ban list, I'd have looked at it. >.
You would probably need to have something that would let you play an additional land each turn.
well if time walk was legal that would be great
Blue Terferi would work I guess.
Im assuming its banned but even if its not thats not even that good. Remember it costs 2 more each time so it gets pretty pricey very fast and you end up spending almost all your mana every turn recasting time walk and if your planeswalker gets removed you cant cast it any more
I dunno. getting like 4 turns in a row seems really really good. Let's math out how many turns you get if you untap with teferii once. He costs 6 and nets you 4 extra mana minimum. So that's what, 5 more turns? Not counting land drops or mana rocks. @@dancook6114
I made a Oko Oathbreaker deck signature spell is Flood of recollection.
Jace don't go into the mist...Oh no he can't hear us he's got air pods in
I've wanted a format like this, specifically the signature spell mechanic
That was rad, PLEASE play this again
I'm not sure, but I believe Treasure Cruise is banned. The pretext on the banlist says cards banned in vintage are not legal in Oathbreaker.
It's restricted in Vintage, banned in Legacy and Modern.
Best moment of the video: Cam wondering why he got a card in Russian
I just play Standard and I have been away from the game fora long time, but... Is there a point in using a fetch land in a mono color deck?
Thinning the deck out to increase odds of getting a better draw, putting cards in the graveyard for resource. Plus this isn't a Standard format version.
Does running fetches to thin the deck work?
Are we going to ignore the fact that Cam said baby jace 😱
"well hexmage is a helluva card."
-Cameron Lauder 2019
any thoughts on adding a turn counter?
The playmat slide is a great idea!
The way serge says "sorry" is so Canadien I thought he was saying it ironically
Sweet
I hope Pauper EDH is next
My friends and I already play it. We only use uncommon legendaries for commander's. Lots of fun
what is cams deck tryin to do?
Has anyone built new Narset as leader with days undoing as signature spell?
Can't Cam counter the sorin +?
27:03. Ayyyyyyy TRAMBOPOLINE!!!
Oh yeah this format is very easy to break. Use archive trap as signature spell - ghost quarter, path, settle the wreckage and many others all become infinite mill cards if you have your planeswalker out.
Charley Brett It still costs 2 additional mana each time, even if you play it for its alternate cost.
@@papernes Oh, wonderful. In that case it's not quite so broken, though alternate cost cards like traps, force of will, and snuff out are still very good.
@@charleybrett1663 the 2 additional mana is an additional cost so even if you play the alternate cost it will be taxed each additional time played.
It’s so weird seeing Vampire Sovereign and Marsh Flats in the same deck
1:17:25
Paul - Isn't freaky mist that turns people into horrible insects, like, a movie?
Cam - ::Is Really Happy::
How was Ben avoiding the life loss from drawing off of Sylvan Library?
you don't lose life if you only draw one card, and so far I haven't seen him draw more than one, but I haven't finished the video and am not paying super close attention so if he drew multiples and didn't lose life it's just they forgot
Serge is such an intense player. He scared the table into teaming up in him, *twice* haha
Approach or cyclonic rift seem very good for a signature spell in this format
approach won't have been cast from your hand if you have it as your signature spell. the signature spell always has to go back to the command zone after it resolves.
The first order of business for this format is to man Doubling Season.
TBH doubling season isnt very good here, name a planeswalker in green that is either A more than just 2 color's (their is very few) and B that has an ult worth or game ending. Doubling season is broken for commander because your commander is usually 4 to 5 colors and you play white blue and black planeswalkers and auto ult them. If you are forced to use a planeswalker their are very few good planeswalker tribal commanders your could play you pretty much have the new jund one or the green white ajani maybe a varska for green black but most of these pw ults arent that good and last the gu nissa but her ult is make 2 lands flying beaters for turn. Almost none of these win the game, its when you have access to 4 to 5 colors is pw tribal good.
@@Small_Panda Tamayo
@@davidfields5375 ah forgot about the other tamiyo yeah forgot about her but tbh I would just ban her b4 I would ban doubling season and tbh they may have already banned it
@@davidfields5375 also main reason i would ban her first is not just doubling season makes her ult easy to get to extra turns proliferate which their us a ton in her color and getting that emblem pretty much ends the game but tbh it's supposed to be a fun interactive format. Going for her ult seems so against the spirit of the format at least to me
Decrement. +10 points for word of the day ^_^
Good lord does Cameron need a boost in confidence or at least in his ability to play magic *smh*
hope to see this format come back after WAR
Ben's deck not having Immerwolf seems really weird. It seemed like the perfect card. Turn your creatures into Werewolves and then they stay as werewolves.
It does have immerwolf.
@@BengineeringTV my bad. Hadn't watched the video yet and just glanced at the decklist
What is Cameron looking at?
I wish i had freinds to play magic with.
My playgroup is starting this up. They pissed me off last week, so I'm brewing Jace, memory adept with mind sculpt
Serge is playing mono-white but plays the most fetch lands....??
Runechanter's Pike with Treasure Cruise and Elixir of Immortality? Interesting.