Fun Facts: Spamton’s song is called “Now it’s time to be a” while Spamton Neo’s is called “Big Shot”. It also has bits from Power of Neo, Dummy!, and The World Revolving
I’m really exited to see where Toby takes this whole gaster thing. Right now he seems to be going everywhere and nowhere with it, much like gaster himself
@@Emerald29 and plus they ruin Sans with their Theories now people just talk about this kArMa thInGiNg ya know? Like they thinking Sans is just a cursed skeleton only can use his ability when kArMa ThIngInG bEgIn
@@Arthus_Thenesus well, considering it’s Home, maybe that purple dragon that’s mentioned in the drawer? No? Maybe Chairiel? Still no? Hmm… maybe something more? Maybe even Toriel? Yeah, I have nothing.
Some characters DID notice things up with Frisk, tho. But yeah, not as frequently as with Kris, probably since they all already have some backstory with them.
Kris as I believe has more control over themselves than Frisk. Kris has broken free a couple times, but also with more control on them self, They have more of a chance of being possessed, as it seems.
@@HyperTextMarkupLanguage-HTML or maybe just frisk doesn’t care about being controlled by the player, especially how it’s very certain how the soul from Undertale is 100% in deltarune with how sometimes it says “again” to places where we weren’t ever there in deltarune but we were in undertale, such as the bake sale and sans
@@butterflydreamer9649 And with the broken... uh... music machine thing in the Castle Town cafe, forgot what it was called, the flavor text says "Seems like you might never find a working one.", referencing the broken one in Grillby's in Undertale.
Kris is scared by what Spamton said about 'puppets and strings' because kris KNOWS that theres SOMEONE controlling them, and thats US. And one of Spamton's lines "Maybe you three can break your own strings." might play in future chapters where we try to make the characters do something but they refuse and do the opposite.
I just complete the snowgrave route in chapter 2, and I hope for nothing more than to be put into my place. Feels so horrible doing the genocide paths in these games
maybe when he boxes his soul away, he actually has control of himself or try to be "soulless" since SPOILER WARNING he goes and slashes the wheels of toriel's car after he -jumps out of the window and gets omori bad ending-
@@The-blackghost36 they might actually have control, but I don't think they can stay soulless for too long since they can barely even walk when soulless
@@flow185 he had the mannequin on which reduces the damage Spamton NEO does... It's kind of funny how he didn't even /know/ how much he was being helped by it
Spamton is lowkey one of the darkest characters in both Undertale and Deltarune so far. He's a failed and corrupted salesman that's nothing but a puppet now, and when he finally thinks he's freed from the strings controlling him, he realizes that he's nothing without those. I think Kris feels a similar way because of how they're suddenly being controlled through their soul and that's why they're impacted so badly by the fight...
I am pretty sure he is a broken soul, broken after whatever helped him stopped. When he broke, something made him their puppet, and the reason he says "Hello? is anyone there..?" is because his true self was able to win for just a moment.. But his puppeteer didnt let that last long. I feel like he is the new gaster.
I'm gonna be honest, currently I'm holding Spamton NEO as one of the best bossfights Toby has ever created. The return of the yellow soul mode, the new mechanic of a [[BIG SHOT]], so many different interactive attacks that work so well for Spamton (also the things you have to shoot being blue really helps), all encapsulated in this poor glitchy spam program that just wants to be free. Not to mention, it's clear that this is Toby's way of giving us a full Mettaton NEO fight, after all these years! All the little references and callbacks, and the fact that it's implied Mettaton himself designed Spamton NEO's body, create this perfect mix of and old and new and it's just... _mwah._ Sorry Jevil, I've got a new raving lunatic to gush over!
Toby: the man who can fit so much humor in his writing you think a robot wrote it, but can also instantly switch that to a hyper dark and disturbing story. In summery, toby is really freaking good at writing
Spamton has some interesting lore but the most suspicious character in this chapter is Ralsei -Why did lancer get turned into stone when he left his dark world while Ralsei didn't? Doesn't that mean he is a lightner? -How does he know the layout of the school? -He asked Kris if he wants cinnamon or butterscotch, doesn't that remind you of something? In conclusion, Ralsei is Asriel
He is very sus because we don't know how he came to cyber world while lancer and rouxls came through our inventory he just said i felt a feeling and came here, i wonder he has portals that lead to other dark worlds?
@@gabrielbarron7667 well that's explained in the game as him being away at college, although it could be that he's actually been in the dark world the whole time...
Fun fact: The line “The air crackles with freedom” is actually from the jevil fight, and I have a feeling that all of the secret bosses in the other chapters will have that same line
@@hyperbolicparaboloid5384 I love knwing everythig there is to know about a game. Omori gives me that. WHich makes it hard to read fics who missed stuff :)
I was thinking that mike was the other half of gaster and he is using spamton to make him go insane and get revenge that’s y when his [friends] called him it was garbage noise gaster is controlling spamton
Remember when someone said : "can anybody hear me? Help..." Through spamton in his shop ? Maybe that was gaster trying to comunicate through him, also jevil's backstory also seems to be tied to gaster, maybe all the secret bosses have a story with gaster. And all the shadow cristals were given by him.
The dialogue after the Neo fight was actually really interesting, showing that Kris has their own reactions and obviously a personality and we are the one controlling them :oo
I really love the relationship of Spamton and Kris, its incredibly traumatizing for Kris to be controlled by a force that he doesn't even know of. To see Kris see another person go through a similar conundrum like he had is much more disturbing. The cutscene where Susie and Ralsei realize something is wrong with Kris is one of the absolutely vulnerable and best cutscene's in the entire game, the fact that we see Kris be in his probably most vulnerable state and is being offered the question to what he thinks of the fight earlier, or to stretch it a bit, even YOU, the player, is hard to not care about, and at the end of the day, Kris can't even answer the question that could have maybe let his feelings out and at least ease the situation, whether you say Y/N it doesn't matter, picking yes would just be ignoring what Kris really feels and not caring at all, while picking No, which is the best option imo, although you are picking the choice which Kris would have picked, it doesn't matter, Kris NEVER gets to do what he wants, down to the point where he can't even at least talk about what he feels, someone will pick what they feel and express it themselves, without feeling what the person feels themselves, it's simply unfair. Not to call out yt'ers, but most people that have played this (including me) always choose specific choices for the sake of not themselves or the avatar (Kris), instead for the sake of the people around them, you know what the consequences are if you say this "specific-word" to the person, but you are ignoring or not realizing the consequences of what could happen to yourself. Which connects to the ending of the first chapter where we (the player) have made choices that has made consequences that has led to Kris REALLY to getting out of control and doing even the most crazy acts just to get YOU to stop controlling them. (Yes, This is the most longest youtube comment you've ever read, I "tried" to make it short, there's too much I had in mind, if you get tired reading sorry I guess?) Anyway, I hope more secret bosses have a connection to the other characters, especially Kris. Waiting for 3+ years to see this was absolutely worth it.
Is it just me, or does the text at 30:26 reflect the favorite flavor that the player can choose when creating their vessel? I remember pain being one of the options, and here Spammton mentions it. Has anyone else noticed this?
@@armageddongirl612 pfff nah better use jevilsknife and deal maker on sussie she Will have 9 Magic she Will become the últimate healer healing súper high amounts of HP increídible amounts like 10 HP thats INSANE
I feel bad for Kris, he wasn’t even supposed to be in this situation where he feels like a puppet. Our SOUL (the player) was supposed to be in some vessel, not inside of Kris. Kris is a whole human who’s lost a lot of control over their life, being commanded around by some invisible force. No wonder he’s so shaken up by spamton’s battle. It hits close to home. Regardless of how good or evil regular Kris is, having little agency behind your actions all of a sudden one day must be traumatizing.
Same here, I wonder if our SOUL is the same from Undertale… it would explain why ours seems to override Kris’s most of the time. However, I wonder if our SOUL is really human… since a human cannot absorb another human soul. Maybe Gaster found a way? Or maybe it’s not applicable since it’s differs from Undertale to Deltarune
@@thepurpleperson3765 the soul we use in deltarune likely doesn't represent an in-game entity, it represents US. the player. it would explain why we know about the Undertale cast
Merg: Disrespects all of the pottery after completing the room "this is my one chance to let out my anger this is for all of the memes" Susie: literally does the same thing Merg: SUSIE!! >:(
Merg looking at Tasque Manager: This might be the best designed enemy so far. Me, who has already seen Twitter go nuts for her: Cool design is an understatement...
Kris didn't like being compared to a [Heart] on a [Chain] huh, probably because he is one. And when Spamton finally lost his strings...He just broke. Maybe Kris worries the same will happen to him when he loses the SOUL.
@@BE-fw1lr I think that's more to keep the gender of the character ambiguous and allow anyone to self-insert rather than a preference Kris has. Quite a few games do this.
@@BE-fw1lr wait....Kris isn't a neutral name. That's a dude name. This isn't a representation of us either, so it wouldn't make sense for his gender to be ambiguous. We're the soul. Kris is the body we stole.
Based on jevil, I wouldnt count on it. We also have enough info to make two possible timelines of what his story was. Either way, gaster was involved in making him corrupted and infected
There's one detail I notoced! In the long room where you get and return the Disc for Spamton, you checked each of the dark places before checking the robot-thing at the end. Every message you got there said that there's nothing interesting, however ONE of those wasn't just shown, it was progressively typed with sound, as if someone was saying it outloud in there. Kinda gave me chills!
Honestly out of all the playthroughs I've watched thus far? You seem to have found the most secrets (or random unnoticed stuff) about deltarune, such as the toliet where berdly was or the Addison's at 51:38. I didn't even know some of this stuff existed till now. If there was an award for finding the most secrets in a playthrough for this game, I think you definitely earned it.
The story certainly sounds quite... interesting, and a bit creepy, too. First Jevil, now Spamton. I wonder where Toby is taking this, are we finally going to find out more about Gaster? Awesome secret, though. This is the first and only boss fight in Deltarune that uses a different soul than the determination one (so far, at least), and that just makes it quite special.
@@pitori. I get the strange feeling that Gaster will be seen in Chapter 6 since the number 6 has a big association with Gaster. Or there will be 6 shadow crystals and 6 eggs, and that'll play into gaster appearing in chapter 7.
Merg now that you've done the Spamton NEO fight, the butlers will have new dialogue and you can find Spamton's room. If you go to the cafe, then Swatch will have an entirely new conversation for ya.
Ok so a lot of theories around spamton (mostly just mental connections): In the fight he tells the audience to stop taking his furniture, maybe thats what he was telling the movers (the ads say that he got evicted) The phone call was basically the end of his career, in his fight and shop you see phones. In his dialuge if you talk to him in the shop, he talks about yelling into the phone so something big must have happened with him and his secret manager (gaster..?) He mentions mike in his shop dialogue, and being trapped maybe he wasnt always a robot, the poster in the allyway shows a more human looking spamton. And the creepy shop dialogue of calling for help might be mike trapped in spmaton (its a pretty big stretch) Adding on to this his dialuge right before the fight says things about it being dark and heavy symbolism of being trapped and being let free. I think this just might be him trying to break free from his prison. Spmaton is just such a weird and lore-heavy character , I want matpat to make some theories
Now thinking about it, it could also be that before spamton was a human person. At his death gaster tried to take his soul into another body so as not to let him die but little by little the body of Spamton got corrupted and became this way. It would also make sense because when spamton asks for help in the shop it is the only time he speaks in a normal way like a real person ............
Fun fact: In the video merg mentioned the call from Undertale where a unknown person accidentally calls the wrong number and ask for a G... Before realising and singing the wrong number song... On a completely unrelated note did you know the spamton neo's theme (big shot) contains world revolving, power of neo, dummy and the wrong number song... Very Very Interesting.
I can‘t believe Merg gives us DR content EVERY DAY. A very big thank you to one of the greatest UA-camr, who despite his large following, engages so much with his viewers and actually listens and interacts.. kann nicht in worte beschreiben wie toll du bist, hoffentlich kriegst du noch viel mehr abos. Hast es komplett verdient :).
Every single time I saw Nubert, I made it my duty to say out loud "Yo, is that my man Nubert?" Sadly, this chapter didn't add the dialogue of Susie saying "My man!" from the 6th anniversary stream. At least my man Nubert is... you know, in the game.
Hey there Merg, I'm just here to remind you about the egg. "Amongst other eggs." That's all, have a good day. Edit: One can only assume "Pipis" is the natural evolution of "Bepis"
51:34 Perhaps rather than Gaster saying can I speak to G- Perhaps it was spamton, he does have quite the handful of up beat little tunes going on... That might have been one of them... Their faces are gone because they're looking the other way, facing the wall...
My personal theory is that all the calls in Undertale actually come from Deltarune and have somewhat bled into Undertale because of multiversal mishaps (I mean, you ARE save scumming in the world) Wrong number song: Spamton or someone who ends up like Spamton calling "G" Sans' call: he is coming over someone's place in the hometown, my bets are on Asgore, they are certainly on amicable terms and Asgore's fridge is where you put the first egg. Sans doesn't necessarily have to know about the egg Alphys' call: she's calling Ice-E for a pizza, a treat that doesn't exist in Undertale buy certainly exists in Deltarune
Spamton Neo is straight up just Deltarune’s Mettaton, he even has the spotlight wings and arm canon (also I heard Ghost Song, Power of Neo, and Dummy in his song Big Shot).
The two secret bosses: spamton and jevil both have encounter or hear the mysterios man (gaster). Jevil met him and started to see world as a game, spamton propably comunicated with him with the phone. They both had the shadow crystal. My theory is that gaster has helping both of them or gave part of him self to them ( maybe the shadow crystal is part of gaster) and maybe gaster is the so called knight.
Well, Sean says that Spamton found the crystal in the robot's body when you talk with him after you beat the chapter, so, that's not a good connection point
gaster isn't the knight SPOILERS... for what it's worth we see kris create a new dark fountain at the end of chapter 2, we know he's the knight now, just not why he makes the fountains... is he trying to end the world, does he just like the adventures? i'm betting it's the second one, since he's seemingly perfectly willing to close the fountains and only seems to make 1 at a time
@@thundercreeper96 If you saw the new genocide route called "Snowgrave route" you will understand why a lot people (including myself) like Spamton more than Queen he's one fusion of Flowey and Mettaton in this route
Ok, random theory here. So I believe that gaster is trying to get his soul out of the void by putting his emotions into empty characters. With jevil, that's his playful emotions, spamton is his fear, and so on maybe. I think this is his hope that he can be somewhat free from the void, because it's absolute nothingness, so I see why. Idk just had this pop into my head. Update: Ok, I just updated this like 3 seconds later BUT, I think that since there are 7 chapters, it could mean the 7 sins. Spamton is greed for obvious reasons, but I think Jevil is pride. Because he only wants to have fun for himself, and doesn't care about anyone else. Again just popped into my head
during the battle in one of attacks spamton has phones attached resembling hands. He basically speaks with his hands during this moment (33:08). And there are 6 salesman after the battle, and number 6 is related to many undertale easter eggs (for example fun value for mystery man is 66). And the way spamton was talking about darkness gave me chills.
Ralsei without glasses looks just like toriel, and he's the one who explains how things work. We can even say he's the tuTORIEL (I know it's the oldest pun in the game.)
0:20 "I See You Have: Escaped From Your Room Units" You're Welcome 1:41 Classic her. Next time she might just make you [DATA EXPUNGED] 3:27 I like these concepts in execution as well 5:52 "Kris" Powerwalks to the beat! 9:24 I like that these fights are avoidable 17:22 Door went woosh and Nobody else is here 18:22 Congrats! Now THIS is a proper game over screen! 20:53 We know what must be done 21:50 %( 23:54 As I said last video: Everyone is Burgerpants yet nobody is Burgerpants. You can go check 25:59 Either this is challenging or they come save you 28:15 inb4 this is Mettaton NEO canon colours 28:26 Told you so 29:04 Justice shall be served... but why!? We don't have the Lazor Phone... is MAX a multitrait SOUL!? 30:28 TESTMONSTER! In Undertale, there's a hidden room with grey images and badly drawn TestMonsters. They have broken, wavy lines of dialogue, which go as follows: "Wake up and *smell* the pain " "Though... it's still a little shaky" "hueh hueh hueh hueh" IIRC. So many easter eggs. Why would he know and have to do so much with UT tho!? 30:30 The plot thickens! 32:44 Ok more Earthbound references... 36:07 The plot is so thick it could be hacked and slashed 36:38 And this one was The Power Of NEO 40:56 These are some God Of Hyperdeath-level stunts. What a worthy continuation! 42:18 Those limp legs don't look sustainable... nor his sanity tbh. I dread a twist 42:56 :(. Ok so I guess that refers to MAX? 44:24 You don't need cash tho 47:26 Kris is deeply disturbed. I reckon it has to do with MAX. I wonder what the dialogue is here with the opposite option 48:13 A key difference between DR and OMORI is that DR tells you straight up what your protagonist looks like, moves like, and was like. In Omori you must guess his minute changes in expression, deduce his changes in behaviour from previous testimony, qnd fill in the blanks. How curious comparing both. Sunny > Kris tho 51:21 A strech, yes, but... an analogy? A cross reference? Did anyone detect the Wrong number Song anywhere?
@@RandokatTheOnion I love making long timestamped comments! Helps tell my reactions and thought process in a way that a single comment can't express (my memory is very unreliable), especially in 3 hour long videos. Glad you liked it! EDIT: Something I forgot: 24:30 Here Spamton punctuates his sentences excessively to [[Prevent any unbecoming intrusions!]]. I found out later
Spamton is like a mix between Jevil, Mettaton, Flowey, and Burgerpants… very interesting combination. Also I’m seeing a pattern, and ima guess the next secret boss in the next chapter will also get their life recked by Gaster
51:49 his shop’s theme plays a motif from jevil’s fight. I think spamton and jevil were both connected to Gaster somehow and when Gaster fell into the core they went insane
I feel like Merg had some concerns at the beggining(maybe im wrong, it just felt that way) but now he is full on Deltarune mode again :D Oh also remember what happened when Kris stood near our favourite fluffy boy for a while? Well, it may or may not be in this chapter as well ;D
Okay, if the Shadow Crystals transfer over for every chapter, you already know that there's gonna be a secret boss for every chapter leading up to 7, and if you collect all the Shadow Crystals, you will get the true ending or something in Chapter 7.
i believe if you fight the chapter 7 secret boss with all the shadow crystals, maybe you get to re fight every secret boss, since assuming you have all 7 shadow crystals, that means you have beaten each respective secret boss, i think the chapter 7 secret boss would corrupt the secret bosses and make them come back to their physical forms (not just weapons / armors) and you have to beat them
With all of the comments here, and the fact that I am as late as hell, you probably will never see this. But I do want to let you know that the mannequin is NOT useless, it actually probably saved from from a death or two. It reduces damage taken from Spamton NEO bullets by 35%, so don't bully the mannequin :(
Spamton is probably one of my favourite characters now. Simply because: 1. encountering him for the first time made me start to question the game I'm playing 2. Fighting him made me realise Deltarune can get dark at times. 3. Adds more layers to Kris as a character 4. Makes Ralsei more mysterious and sus
I really love the Ib vibes in the mansion gallery! "Respect the pottery" and all the paintings, wow. Nostalgia. Also the soul breaking noise from Undertale :O
I like how Toby tries different things in this chapter, from sprites (i was stunned when i saw the heroic entrance and the back flipping from the wheel what's it) or the messing with with how many or which characters we battle with and ofc than the unique cart fight... Which is than again presented during Spamton but now in different way. I just like Toby having fun with it all, and am truly looking forward what will the other chapters bring... And also ya, I did Spamton on my first try but it was realy challenging, ultimately i find this whole chapter harder in terms of evade patterns which i like, i hope that this scaling difficulty will go higher and higher.
17:24 I did not see that in my playthrough (as the teacup ride had already rose up by the time I went back to the area) and have not seen that in any other playthrough. That sprite had not been seen anywhere in game (well... except MAYBE later...) Very interesting...
The ending of Big shot has the same tune as one in Mad dummy, symbolizing that Spamton is a puppet with no will of its own, sort of like a dummy. His and Jevil’s fights are the only fights in the game that show the text: “The air cackles with freedom” as they both mention it in dialogue before their fights.
_It's time... to be a _*_BIG SHOT!_* 0:13 The Spada Lisa? 0:34 No she will LMAO all she wants. 1:30 Now the Queen gets to punch you. >:D 2:07 You did not respect the pottery. Shame on you. 2:35 Why thank you. 4:06 Harder than the ball game I tell you. 4:50 Ngl that's a cool pocketwatch. 5:04 Bro they're bowing lol. 5:25 Oh no more pottery disrespect against the Queen. 6:00 Let's go Susie! >:D 6:47 Yup! The manager, you could say! 7:02 Yooo you actually got one! 7:32 Eyyyy. 7:39 Many seemed to think so lol. 7:48 Oof she don't like that chaos boy. 9:20 She fights you anyways lol, but complements you. 9:36 Don't all mansions have highways? 9:50 Ouch no- don't get teacup'd! You've got a harder one waiting... 10:20 _Keygen..._ 10:36 A cursed-or lol. 11:06 Go Nubert! 11:18 Noice. 12:22 Guess the cars hate mice too? 13:12 So we're wearing a chain of email letters? 14:08 It's because there was a thing to select under his cursor head! :0 14:24 Bro he blind. 14:35 _Goodbye encryption._ 15:00 Ah yes, the piano switch. 15:27 Enter... _the basement._ 15:40 Mmmmoss. 16:07 Kinda looks like the back rooms. 16:52 They're like chain chomps! 17:14 Predicted lol. 17:58 It's gonna be even worse! >:D 18:25 Yeah it's a more Game Over style for Darkness Falls! 19:30 Almost choked but you saved it! 20:34 _Hi new body..._ 21:37 Susie don't tease the goat boy! >:0 21:48 This is worse than chad this is... this is... *hawts.* 22:15 Personally I prefer to keep it to that one sprite, makes the impact better and makes more sense for the glasses. 23:14 Naahhhhh 23:35 Yeah it's... creepy. 23:48 It's the same shaking I see it. xD 24:02 Suddenly Rouxls Kaard. 24:22 Interesting... 24:26 Yooo Merg spittin bars! 25:05 _There he goes..._ 25:48 YES! OF COURSE YOU CAN [help...] HIM YOU [Little Sponge]! 25:52 Even better. >:D 26:15 _Transfer complete..._ 26:37 Well... 26:54 _HELLOOOOO NEOOOOOOO!_ 27:06 Lmao the slight southern accent. 27:09 Unfortunately! 27:38 Yet darker... 28:03 Ah yes enlarge. 28:07 Kinda? He calls himself on in Snowgrave. 28:23 Eyyy the gang's all here to fight God! 29:00 JUSTICE TIME! 29:18 [[Big shot]] 29:24 _Don't you wanna be a [Big Shot]?_ 29:26 Yes and it's worth it. 29:43 *_IT'S TIME TO BE A [BIG SHOT] MERG!_* 29:52 Yup. :> 30:00 His own little world... 30:03 YUP! >:D 30:44 It's the [NEO] we never had! :DDDD 31:23 Audience? 31:53 Even a heart attack! 32:25 I'm a man of the [Pipis] myself. 33:02 Yeah this attack is scary af. 33:09 _There is no audience..._ 33:57 He always did that. 35:00 Yeah Spamton's the first... and the puppet thing... perhaps there's a connection? After all... we're the one in control. =) 36:01 Pipis. 36:12 It's the end of Dummy! 37:41 He's already free! 38:28 You can just use a normal item? 39:16 Funnily enough there is a way to spam [BIG SHOT]]s. 39:40 Just like him... 40:18 Rekt. 40:36 Even the original song title drop! 40:42 TIME FOR THE MOST [[ENLARGE]] ATTACK! 41:14 It's been there the whole time! :D 41:26 Near perfect timing ending the song. Spamton's free(?) 41:53 Lmao called it. 42:22 F. 42:48 But can we? 43:03 Number 2! 43:27 Yeah a bit awkward. 43:50 Oooo it's a Monika peephole? 44:32 The PuppetScarf to be exact. 45:26 The Dealmaker? The BossFighter? The DarkSecretsUncoverer? 46:22 Thank you Susie. 46:50 Float Boy? 47:06 Oh dear... 47:31 He's seriously super sus, like through the roof sus. 47:56 And I think Kris thinks so as well... 48:08 Awww. 48:25 Huh? No it hasn't changed. 48:40 Hah you'd be wrong. 48:46 The Addisons... his "friends"... 49:03 Cus he was a spammer, and a scammer, controlled with what to sell as a puppet... 49:33 Well... 50:17 _Abandoned..._ 50:43 *_ENTRY NUMBER ###_* 51:12 HOLY [Cungadero] YOU'RE RIGHT- 51:39 They're just turned around lol. 52:30 Thanks Trashy.
Not making demands, I just can’t wait to see his reaction to how much darker this genocide run is. :-) There’s a lot to this chapter and I love it. Each chapter is going to be like a game by itself.
@@derekspradling7452 to be honest, the snowgrave route is a lot darker and more disturbing, which i still find absolutely amazing. but to me it just doesn't have the same emotional punch in the gut the genocide route had, again, to me at least. however, both are still pretty great.
I don't think anyone's pointed this out yet, but one of the flavor texts for Spamton Neo is "The stage lights are shattered" which is a direct reference to Mettaton Neo's flavor text; "Stage lights are blaring"
Fun Facts: Spamton’s song is called “Now it’s time to be a” while Spamton Neo’s is called “Big Shot”. It also has bits from Power of Neo, Dummy!, and The World Revolving
The world revolving (around the) power of NEO, dummy!
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Due to this song, I'm beggining to think The World Revolving isn't Jevil's theme, but the leitmotif of characters affected by HIM.
@@mithril5155 "him"?
Who is "him"?
@@frieza1016 probably gaster, or the knight
@@scythemare9471 ohh... Forgot the knight
If you get the Tasque Master's questions right, the fight still starts, but you can spare them instantly.
so whats the right answer?
Good to know!
How the heack have you commented 15 mins ago
@@Fyreupblock bug probably
@@kapa_nitori there are muliple questions. They are all easy if u write down all the names in the rught positions on pape
I’m really exited to see where Toby takes this whole gaster thing. Right now he seems to be going everywhere and nowhere with it, much like gaster himself
I think Gaster is a chicken
@@Werther_97 OH GOD NO WHY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE
@@Werther_97
Egg 🍳
After years we can finally get official gaster lore instead of those fan theories
@@Emerald29 and plus they ruin Sans with their Theories now people just talk about this kArMa thInGiNg ya know? Like they thinking Sans is just a cursed skeleton only can use his ability when kArMa ThIngInG bEgIn
The butlers: **try to be polite and bow before you part ways**
Merg: *”Wait are they dabbing-“*
You know cancer has reached terminal stage when it has infested and destroyed the concept of bowing.
I thought it looked like a dab too on my own playthrough…
lol
Wish it was a dab
Maybe it's both? Queen would make them do that.
32:44 the timing of him saying "i think its about time" with the song inmediatly saying "time to be a big shot" is insane
YOOO true
Third
Actually, it's "Now's your chance to be a big shot," not "time".
Spamton is the only enemy that actually know the power of the human's soul, and it's battle is the only one that have a soul mechanic in deltarune.
Him and chara
only monsters which came from the deltarune univers , lightners and darkners
maybe the "mistery man" behind the phone told him
Maybe the other 5 chapter secret bosses will have the rest of the soul mechanics?
The only battle that has a soul mechanic.... So far
Spamton has a veery cool and "theory-fuel" backstory tho
Guess every chapter we will have an insane dude that makes the air crackle with freedom
first Jevil and now Spamton
In the deck of cards we've got a Joker card.
In the computer world we've got a spambot.
In the TV world...
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Any associations?
Mike?...NO! We don’t need MIKE!
@@Arthus_Thenesus Mike....
@@Arthus_Thenesus well, considering it’s Home, maybe that purple dragon that’s mentioned in the drawer? No? Maybe Chairiel? Still no? Hmm… maybe something more? Maybe even Toriel? Yeah, I have nothing.
Susie: *kicks pots*
Merg: *offended*
Kris: Susie, c'mon! Aim for the vitals!
HA!
Is that an reference to the beginning?
@@toastedprocastinator it was and it's funny
God
Nice. ^^
I love how Susie and Ralsei noticed something was wrong with Kris. Good to know Kris isn’t as neutral as Frisk
Some characters DID notice things up with Frisk, tho. But yeah, not as frequently as with Kris, probably since they all already have some backstory with them.
@@burgerburger7975 tbf you’re right since we just start off as Frisk with almost no context besides the war and the barrier
Kris as I believe has more control over themselves than Frisk. Kris has broken free a couple times, but also with more control on them self,
They have more of a chance of being possessed, as it seems.
@@HyperTextMarkupLanguage-HTML or maybe just frisk doesn’t care about being controlled by the player, especially how it’s very certain how the soul from Undertale is 100% in deltarune with how sometimes it says “again” to places where we weren’t ever there in deltarune but we were in undertale, such as the bake sale and sans
@@butterflydreamer9649 And with the broken... uh... music machine thing in the Castle Town cafe, forgot what it was called, the flavor text says "Seems like you might never find a working one.", referencing the broken one in Grillby's in Undertale.
"Ralsei is so cute, fulffy but so sus. Every second they are becoming sussier."
- Merg
pig genus is sus
Timestamp
Timestamp when??
47:32
dont know why merg called ralsei “they”. the game specifies that ralsei is male
although, he does look like femal
28:26 "YEAH! SUSIE! and ralsei of course."
That monotonous tone for Ralsei after the excitement of Susie's arrival is just perfect XD
Kris is scared by what Spamton said about 'puppets and strings' because kris KNOWS that theres SOMEONE controlling them, and thats US.
And one of Spamton's lines "Maybe you three can break your own strings." might play in future chapters where we try to make the characters do something but they refuse and do the opposite.
I just complete the snowgrave route in chapter 2, and I hope for nothing more than to be put into my place. Feels so horrible doing the genocide paths in these games
Well actually in the Snowgrave route which is genocide route basically you do force Noelle to kill everyone and the final boss is spamton
-spoiler-
kind of a spoiler for the ending ngl
maybe when he boxes his soul away, he actually has control of himself or try to be "soulless" since
SPOILER WARNING
he goes and slashes the wheels of toriel's car after he -jumps out of the window and gets omori bad ending-
@@The-blackghost36 they might actually have control, but I don't think they can stay soulless for too long since they can barely even walk when soulless
Spamton is lowkey one of the coolest bosses tho
True
I died to him 6 times I’m bad :(
Oh do you watch merg to evil?
BECAUSE HE HAS THE
[[Hyperlink Blocked]]
thats what she said about jevil
"I'm a little confused why Ralsei is asserting dominance over us like that."
Merg 2021
I dont care im late. Timestap when?
@@lamaoma 47:06
@@TangleSlime2 thanks
Who would say that Merg's first Game Over in this chapter would be outside of a battle... It's pretty funny that we all struggle with the cups 😅
He didnt die on fuckin SpamTon Neo but died outside of battle. Guess thats just how Merg is.
@@flow185 he had the mannequin on which reduces the damage Spamton NEO does... It's kind of funny how he didn't even /know/ how much he was being helped by it
@@dekkonot yeh notice how Kris had half the defense of sussie and took Even less damage
is it bad that I died on spamton regular form once and tea cup ride 3 times but I first tried spamton neo
I one shoted the basement cup and did not take damage
I as well no hit the spamton neo
Spamton is lowkey one of the darkest characters in both Undertale and Deltarune so far. He's a failed and corrupted salesman that's nothing but a puppet now, and when he finally thinks he's freed from the strings controlling him, he realizes that he's nothing without those. I think Kris feels a similar way because of how they're suddenly being controlled through their soul and that's why they're impacted so badly by the fight...
I've never thought about the Kris part hence why Kris was having goosebumps after the fight :0
I am pretty sure he is a broken soul, broken after whatever helped him stopped. When he broke, something made him their puppet, and the reason he says "Hello? is anyone there..?" is because his true self was able to win for just a moment.. But his puppeteer didnt let that last long. I feel like he is the new gaster.
Nah, without a soul, Kris can eat as many pies as he want!
oh hi flyingline i didnt expect you to be here
(spoiler)
Kris without the soul is the Knight.
47:42
"Dude, you're getting more and more sus by the second my friend."
-Merg 2021
Yes, yes... I find him sus, too
Ralsei, more like Ralsus (?)
@@Merg sussei
@@Merg alright, now just add krisus and it's complete
@@parsleyara758 Sussei, Sussie and Sis
Is no one gonna talk about the fact that Merg just passed Spamton NEO in only one attempt? He's so good
He's well trained by the no hit runs 😂😂
@@iridescent28 Have to agree with this lmao
The fight isn't even that hard in my honest opinion, a lot easier than jevel
@@purehollow (SPOILERS FOR GENOCIDE DELTARUNE CH2)
the final boss in genocide in this route is harder alone
@@purehollow but yeah i agree jevil is MUCH harder
I'm gonna be honest, currently I'm holding Spamton NEO as one of the best bossfights Toby has ever created. The return of the yellow soul mode, the new mechanic of a [[BIG SHOT]], so many different interactive attacks that work so well for Spamton (also the things you have to shoot being blue really helps), all encapsulated in this poor glitchy spam program that just wants to be free.
Not to mention, it's clear that this is Toby's way of giving us a full Mettaton NEO fight, after all these years! All the little references and callbacks, and the fact that it's implied Mettaton himself designed Spamton NEO's body, create this perfect mix of and old and new and it's just... _mwah._
Sorry Jevil, I've got a new raving lunatic to gush over!
Spamton: Top tier character, top tier music, top tier boss fight, top tier Pipis
@@Merg Toby truly is a man of the Pipis.
@@TheAdvertisement a real pipis person
@@Merg Spamton is that character that I like. He is that character who can break minds and reality. I'm scared of him. But he is a [[Big Shot]]
@@IlcotheOtter wut
Toby: the man who can fit so much humor in his writing you think a robot wrote it, but can also instantly switch that to a hyper dark and disturbing story.
In summery, toby is really freaking good at writing
Man I thought this character was a weird throwaway but his strange dialogue + THIS made me realize how ripe he is for some insane theories
WHO TF IS MIKE???
2 words snow grave
@@funtimegamer8733 I read his comment and I didn’t find any trace of the name “Mike.”
@@yagayifyoureplytothis2987 Spamton mentions Mike a few times.
@@con6911 Oh.
The fact that Merg, angrily, breaks all Queen's vases, because off all the memes she made, makes my day 🌟🌟🌟 become a 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Even susie joined in
Become a??
[BIG SHOT]
I won’t even need to use my [Hyperlink blocked]
revenge
@@Merg yooooo hey
@@Merg the community post about *potassium* says different. Or maybe that was an exception? 👀
Spamton has some interesting lore but the most suspicious character in this chapter is Ralsei
-Why did lancer get turned into stone when he left his dark world while Ralsei didn't? Doesn't that mean he is a lightner?
-How does he know the layout of the school?
-He asked Kris if he wants cinnamon or butterscotch, doesn't that remind you of something?
In conclusion, Ralsei is Asriel
Plus have we ever dont actually see asriel around much
He is very sus because we don't know how he came to cyber world while lancer and rouxls came through our inventory he just said i felt a feeling and came here, i wonder he has portals that lead to other dark worlds?
“ Ralsei” is a anagram of “asriel”
Just like how “deltarune” is an anagram of “undertale”
But who cares?
Wanna be a [BIG SHOT]?
Amogus
@@gabrielbarron7667 well that's explained in the game as him being away at college, although it could be that he's actually been in the dark world the whole time...
Fun fact: The line “The air crackles with freedom” is actually from the jevil fight, and I have a feeling that all of the secret bosses in the other chapters will have that same line
51:26 Holy shit I haven't seen the "can I speak to G" brought up before. Good shout.
Your the first one I’ve seen make the connection between Spamton and the “G” phone call. That’s actually really interesting!
I also wonder why he has so many UT elements, from NEO, to his TestMonster reference at 30:27 and more...
@@gabrote42 another person who knows about unused undertale stuff epic
@@hyperbolicparaboloid5384 I love knwing everythig there is to know about a game. Omori gives me that. WHich makes it hard to read fics who missed stuff :)
I was thinking that mike was the other half of gaster and he is using spamton to make him go insane and get revenge that’s y when his [friends] called him it was garbage noise gaster is controlling spamton
@@gabrote42 what’s the testmonster stuff
Remember when someone said : "can anybody hear me? Help..." Through spamton in his shop ? Maybe that was gaster trying to comunicate through him, also jevil's backstory also seems to be tied to gaster, maybe all the secret bosses have a story with gaster. And all the shadow cristals were given by him.
I'm scared what Toby is going to do with all Shadow Crystals.. like.. for example in sonic franchise they give power..
Or maybe asriel
Who call help
I interpreted it as Spamton calling for help
@@mrgamemaster7761
I thought so too, since Spamtom was different and then changed.
I think the real Spamtom is trapped inside that corrupted body.
I like how Merg pauses when he see Ralsei's eyes lmao
"Bro, I'm dead."
-Merg
I thought he died
The dialogue after the Neo fight was actually really interesting, showing that Kris has their own reactions and obviously a personality and we are the one controlling them :oo
I really love the relationship of Spamton and Kris, its incredibly traumatizing for Kris to be controlled by a force that he doesn't even know of. To see Kris see another person go through a similar conundrum like he had is much more disturbing. The cutscene where Susie and Ralsei realize something is wrong with Kris is one of the absolutely vulnerable and best cutscene's in the entire game, the fact that we see Kris be in his probably most vulnerable state and is being offered the question to what he thinks of the fight earlier, or to stretch it a bit, even YOU, the player, is hard to not care about, and at the end of the day, Kris can't even answer the question that could have maybe let his feelings out and at least ease the situation, whether you say Y/N it doesn't matter, picking yes would just be ignoring what Kris really feels and not caring at all, while picking No, which is the best option imo, although you are picking the choice which Kris would have picked, it doesn't matter, Kris NEVER gets to do what he wants, down to the point where he can't even at least talk about what he feels, someone will pick what they feel and express it themselves, without feeling what the person feels themselves, it's simply unfair. Not to call out yt'ers, but most people that have played this (including me) always choose specific choices for the sake of not themselves or the avatar (Kris), instead for the sake of the people around them, you know what the consequences are if you say this "specific-word" to the person, but you are ignoring or not realizing the consequences of what could happen to yourself. Which connects to the ending of the first chapter where we (the player) have made choices that has made consequences that has led to Kris REALLY to getting out of control and doing even the most crazy acts just to get YOU to stop controlling them.
(Yes, This is the most longest youtube comment you've ever read, I "tried" to make it short, there's too much I had in mind, if you get tired reading sorry I guess?) Anyway, I hope more secret bosses have a connection to the other characters, especially Kris. Waiting for 3+ years to see this was absolutely worth it.
Lmao
Ok but seriously
Thats really interesting to Think about and maybe our consequenses will lead to a certain judge...
@@ChunkyChungus Its literally like undertale, every single choice you make will have a consequence.
@@Cha-tararan like undertale, this is not only a game.... But a test too..
theres also the fact that neo says "Maybe you can break your own strings"
@@EnigmaLuigi that line fells more directed at kris than the player doesn't it?
Is it just me, or does the text at 30:26 reflect the favorite flavor that the player can choose when creating their vessel? I remember pain being one of the options, and here Spammton mentions it. Has anyone else noticed this?
I think it's just a reference to the dialogue from an unused room with TestMonsters in Undertale ("Time to wake up and smell the pain.")
Huh, interesting, but Merg select SALTY so maybe it's the new save... or it would just talk about all the flavor in all the chapter...
Fancy meeting you here
He always says pain
I selected sweet and green as favorte color but I also got a red "pain".
33:16
Spamton: KRIS! CAN YOU REALLY LOOK INTO MY [Eyes] AND SAY NO!?
Merg: You got glasses!
Bruh XD
The dealmaker is probably better on Ralsei due to how it has a magic increase. It'll allow him to heal even harder.
Plus the defence is helpful since he has the least hp among the group
Devilstail + Dealmaker makes Ralsei heal for hilarious amounts of damage, 100+, it's kind of insane.
Wait...how do you heal harder?
@@newforce6908 more magic = heal more
@@armageddongirl612 pfff nah better use jevilsknife and deal maker on sussie she Will have 9 Magic she Will become the últimate healer healing súper high amounts of HP increídible amounts like 10 HP thats INSANE
I feel bad for Kris, he wasn’t even supposed to be in this situation where he feels like a puppet. Our SOUL (the player) was supposed to be in some vessel, not inside of Kris. Kris is a whole human who’s lost a lot of control over their life, being commanded around by some invisible force.
No wonder he’s so shaken up by spamton’s battle. It hits close to home.
Regardless of how good or evil regular Kris is, having little agency behind your actions all of a sudden one day must be traumatizing.
Same here, I wonder if our SOUL is the same from Undertale… it would explain why ours seems to override Kris’s most of the time. However, I wonder if our SOUL is really human… since a human cannot absorb another human soul. Maybe Gaster found a way? Or maybe it’s not applicable since it’s differs from Undertale to Deltarune
@@thepurpleperson3765 the soul we use in deltarune likely doesn't represent an in-game entity, it represents US. the player. it would explain why we know about the Undertale cast
@@notlostplays4654 that makes sense
Merg: Disrespects all of the pottery after completing the room "this is my one chance to let out my anger this is for all of the memes"
Susie: literally does the same thing
Merg: SUSIE!! >:(
Merg looking at Tasque Manager: This might be the best designed enemy so far.
Me, who has already seen Twitter go nuts for her: Cool design is an understatement...
oh no... internet's at it again :(
What the f-
I knew it the moment I saw her.
Yall seem suprised but you have to remember, no exceptions
Oh no
Without spoiling anything= Kris gonna have a HUGE reaction if you choose "no" after Susie asks if u r ok. Hope Merg is gonna check it out one day :)
can you give a link to a video? I don't wanna play the whole game again to find out
@@sagoot ua-cam.com/video/EbROTLCRZQ0/v-deo.html
I actually wanna find out i don't wanna listen to Never gonna give you up.
Pls
@@botondzoltannagy8849 once told me...
@@StreicherIsTheKing bro ..
It seems like every chapter will have a misterious and kinda crazy character. So far we had Jevil and Spamton
@@-Im-possible might be gaster
47:05 I’m just a little concerned about how ralsei is asserting dominance over us, but…?
This is so fucking hilarious lmao
I noticed that Spamton NEO theme has a bit of Jevil's 'The World Revolving ' part
Kris didn't like being compared to a [Heart] on a [Chain] huh, probably because he is one. And when Spamton finally lost his strings...He just broke. Maybe Kris worries the same will happen to him when he loses the SOUL.
Kris uses they/them pronouns, but yeah. That's it.
@@BE-fw1lr I think that's more to keep the gender of the character ambiguous and allow anyone to self-insert rather than a preference Kris has. Quite a few games do this.
@@BE-fw1lr if this is like Undertale, Toby said they're whatever you want them to be.
@@BE-fw1lr wait....Kris isn't a neutral name. That's a dude name. This isn't a representation of us either, so it wouldn't make sense for his gender to be ambiguous. We're the soul. Kris is the body we stole.
@@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 well toby said their pronouns are they/them and in pretty sure its canon that their non-binary so-
spamton's such an interesting character, cant wait to potentially learn more about him as the new chapters roll out
Based on jevil, I wouldnt count on it. We also have enough info to make two possible timelines of what his story was. Either way, gaster was involved in making him corrupted and infected
Hey didn't jevil stuff continue?? The cat lady talked about the devilsknife
@@moaiaiaiaiai i think thats just a one off reference because he had it equipped
Dude undertale is 6 years ago deltarune is 3 years and chapter 2 is recent so it’s been coming out every 3 years
@@gamingwithsabre6790 no, toby said future chapters will come out sooner
There's one detail I notoced! In the long room where you get and return the Disc for Spamton, you checked each of the dark places before checking the robot-thing at the end. Every message you got there said that there's nothing interesting, however ONE of those wasn't just shown, it was progressively typed with sound, as if someone was saying it outloud in there. Kinda gave me chills!
Like someone said it… creepy
Honestly out of all the playthroughs I've watched thus far? You seem to have found the most secrets (or random unnoticed stuff) about deltarune, such as the toliet where berdly was or the Addison's at 51:38. I didn't even know some of this stuff existed till now.
If there was an award for finding the most secrets in a playthrough for this game, I think you definitely earned it.
Litterally my favorite merg moment when he flatlines after seeing ralsei’s eyes. 19:50
The story certainly sounds quite... interesting, and a bit creepy, too. First Jevil, now Spamton. I wonder where Toby is taking this, are we finally going to find out more about Gaster?
Awesome secret, though. This is the first and only boss fight in Deltarune that uses a different soul than the determination one (so far, at least), and that just makes it quite special.
Don't you mean [Specil]?
Ah. Yes of course, it is definitely quite [Specil]
7 chapiters
7 souls
7 secret boss
I think we all know where this is going
@@pitori. 7 days a week
(certified freak?)
@@pitori. I get the strange feeling that Gaster will be seen in Chapter 6 since the number 6 has a big association with Gaster. Or there will be 6 shadow crystals and 6 eggs, and that'll play into gaster appearing in chapter 7.
The game was so deep into the memes by now that I actually thought that at 27:16, Spamton was going to say, "Big, Big Chungus"
this game has 2 sides: meme and extremely disturbing. no middle tones
Merg now that you've done the Spamton NEO fight, the butlers will have new dialogue and you can find Spamton's room. If you go to the cafe, then Swatch will have an entirely new conversation for ya.
"Of course- What up?- Yo, are you... the devil?" -Merg at 26:57.
That has got to be the best reaction to spamton neo I've ever seen.
51:14 ... oh. I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT!!! Merg just pulled a big brain move!
Ok so a lot of theories around spamton (mostly just mental connections):
In the fight he tells the audience to stop taking his furniture, maybe thats what he was telling the movers (the ads say that he got evicted)
The phone call was basically the end of his career, in his fight and shop you see phones. In his dialuge if you talk to him in the shop, he talks about yelling into the phone so something big must have happened with him and his secret manager (gaster..?)
He mentions mike in his shop dialogue, and being trapped maybe he wasnt always a robot, the poster in the allyway shows a more human looking spamton. And the creepy shop dialogue of calling for help might be mike trapped in spmaton (its a pretty big stretch)
Adding on to this his dialuge right before the fight says things about it being dark and heavy symbolism of being trapped and being let free. I think this just might be him trying to break free from his prison.
Spmaton is just such a weird and lore-heavy character , I want matpat to make some theories
Now thinking about it, it could also be that before spamton was a human person. At his death gaster tried to take his soul into another body so as not to let him die but little by little the body of Spamton got corrupted and became this way. It would also make sense because when spamton asks for help in the shop it is the only time he speaks in a normal way like a real person ............
Mat Pat doesn’t make theories about these games ever since he got cyber bullies for one
@@capadociaash8003
You do realise he's made a deltarune theories right?
Fun fact:
In the video merg mentioned the call from Undertale where a unknown person accidentally calls the wrong number and ask for a G...
Before realising and singing the wrong number song...
On a completely unrelated note did you know the spamton neo's theme (big shot) contains world revolving, power of neo, dummy and the wrong number song...
Very
Very
Interesting.
@@pineappleudh6561 *OH*
I can‘t believe Merg gives us DR content EVERY DAY. A very big thank you to one of the greatest UA-camr, who despite his large following, engages so much with his viewers and actually listens and interacts.. kann nicht in worte beschreiben wie toll du bist, hoffentlich kriegst du noch viel mehr abos. Hast es komplett verdient :).
I miss omori vids
@@codrindobrea1390 Well. I liked his OMORI series, however all of his gameplays are good. He simply manages to make any game interesting and great. :)
@@heranabii just like me
Did youtube just translate the end of your comment or is actually german ?
@@opii9163 idk
Every single time I saw Nubert, I made it my duty to say out loud "Yo, is that my man Nubert?" Sadly, this chapter didn't add the dialogue of Susie saying "My man!" from the 6th anniversary stream. At least my man Nubert is... you know, in the game.
My man nubert!
hi kevin
My man!
@@ThatMilesGuy yo is that miles
@@KevinYEAAA yo is that kevinYEAAA
My favorite part is when Susie goes out of the line and starts breaking all the vases
What a true rebel
That ending gave me CHILLS... all sorts of alarms went off in my head. Whoa...
Hey there Merg, I'm just here to remind you about the egg.
"Amongst other eggs."
That's all, have a good day.
Edit: One can only assume "Pipis" is the natural evolution of "Bepis"
His reaction to Ralsei's eyes is perfect! 21:52
51:34 Perhaps rather than Gaster saying can I speak to G- Perhaps it was spamton, he does have quite the handful of up beat little tunes going on... That might have been one of them...
Their faces are gone because they're looking the other way, facing the wall...
And it ia a realy spamton thing to just make a wrong number song
My personal theory is that all the calls in Undertale actually come from Deltarune and have somewhat bled into Undertale because of multiversal mishaps (I mean, you ARE save scumming in the world)
Wrong number song: Spamton or someone who ends up like Spamton calling "G"
Sans' call: he is coming over someone's place in the hometown, my bets are on Asgore, they are certainly on amicable terms and Asgore's fridge is where you put the first egg. Sans doesn't necessarily have to know about the egg
Alphys' call: she's calling Ice-E for a pizza, a treat that doesn't exist in Undertale buy certainly exists in Deltarune
Spamton Neo is straight up just Deltarune’s Mettaton, he even has the spotlight wings and arm canon (also I heard Ghost Song, Power of Neo, and Dummy in his song Big Shot).
Mettaton: Popular, Low Defense
Spamton: Not Popular (In Deltarune World), High Defense
I love how every secret boss fight so far in Deltarune (Jevil+Spamton) is in the basement.
The two secret bosses: spamton and jevil both have encounter or hear the mysterios man (gaster). Jevil met him and started to see world as a game, spamton propably comunicated with him with the phone. They both had the shadow crystal. My theory is that gaster has helping both of them or gave part of him self to them ( maybe the shadow crystal is part of gaster) and maybe gaster is the so called knight.
Well, Sean says that Spamton found the crystal in the robot's body when you talk with him after you beat the chapter, so, that's not a good connection point
oh and if gaster is the knight or can create fountains, it means he has succeeded in getting determination injected into him
cz? :D
@@fobic9406 jo
gaster isn't the knight
SPOILERS... for what it's worth
we see kris create a new dark fountain at the end of chapter 2, we know he's the knight now, just not why he makes the fountains...
is he trying to end the world, does he just like the adventures?
i'm betting it's the second one, since he's seemingly perfectly willing to close the fountains and only seems to make 1 at a time
Spamton is like my favorite boss, the music, Spamton himself as a character is amazing, and the yellow soul to top it all off
i love it so much!
spamton mettaton knock.
I LOVE HIMM
THIS COMMENT IS [Hyperlink Blocked].
I still prefer Jevil but I really like spamton now
Yep definitely!
Also correct me if I am wrong but this yellow soul is the first soul color change we see in deltarune, right?
It’s been around half a week and Spamton is a fan favorite now, that’s insane
But of course! He wanted to be a [[BIG SHOT!!]] Ans he got his wish with [[hyper link blocked]]!
Ikr. People just said "[Quack] off [Favorite Character] there's a new favorite in the town."
No offence but Queen Is so much Better than spamton, shes such a wholesome character, shes basically a walking shitpost and i love it
@@SVOtto Berdley has always been my favourite since chapter 1 so chapter 2 has made me love him even more
@@thundercreeper96 If you saw the new genocide route called "Snowgrave route" you will understand why a lot people (including myself) like Spamton more than Queen he's one fusion of Flowey and Mettaton in this route
Ok, random theory here. So I believe that gaster is trying to get his soul out of the void by putting his emotions into empty characters. With jevil, that's his playful emotions, spamton is his fear, and so on maybe. I think this is his hope that he can be somewhat free from the void, because it's absolute nothingness, so I see why. Idk just had this pop into my head.
Update: Ok, I just updated this like 3 seconds later BUT, I think that since there are 7 chapters, it could mean the 7 sins. Spamton is greed for obvious reasons, but I think Jevil is pride. Because he only wants to have fun for himself, and doesn't care about anyone else. Again just popped into my head
That's a good theory ngl it's quite interesting
That's really interesting ! I'd love to hear ur other theories!!
@@zoraogrith9905 Thanks for the support! I don't have any good ideas though, you can give me a theory to work on, I really like doing these!
@@temmieisakward2830 Thanks, I appreciate you saying that! I'd be happy to work on more if you give me some ideas.
I mean,both of Spamton and Jevil are considered to be fallen angels,Damned Clown around town and Spamton wants to come back to Heaven
during the battle in one of attacks spamton has phones attached resembling hands. He basically speaks with his hands during this moment (33:08). And there are 6 salesman after the battle, and number 6 is related to many undertale easter eggs (for example fun value for mystery man is 66). And the way spamton was talking about darkness gave me chills.
The boss definitely don't want anyone in their mansion,
And those who break the rules, then they'll challenge you into a fight
First
Yea
@@ARCHIVED9610 Tkkyik
Ralsei without glasses looks just like toriel, and he's the one who explains how things work.
We can even say he's the tuTORIEL
(I know it's the oldest pun in the game.)
Oh all goats look the same huh? I thought we were past racism.
@@chaotixthefox It's not racism.
It's specism.
0:20 "I See You Have: Escaped From Your Room Units" You're Welcome
1:41 Classic her. Next time she might just make you [DATA EXPUNGED]
3:27 I like these concepts in execution as well
5:52 "Kris" Powerwalks to the beat!
9:24 I like that these fights are avoidable
17:22 Door went woosh and Nobody else is here
18:22 Congrats! Now THIS is a proper game over screen!
20:53 We know what must be done
21:50 %(
23:54 As I said last video: Everyone is Burgerpants yet nobody is Burgerpants. You can go check
25:59 Either this is challenging or they come save you
28:15 inb4 this is Mettaton NEO canon colours
28:26 Told you so
29:04 Justice shall be served... but why!? We don't have the Lazor Phone... is MAX a multitrait SOUL!?
30:28 TESTMONSTER! In Undertale, there's a hidden room with grey images and badly drawn TestMonsters. They have broken, wavy lines of dialogue, which go as follows: "Wake up and *smell* the pain " "Though... it's still a little shaky" "hueh hueh hueh hueh" IIRC. So many easter eggs. Why would he know and have to do so much with UT tho!?
30:30 The plot thickens!
32:44 Ok more Earthbound references...
36:07 The plot is so thick it could be hacked and slashed
36:38 And this one was The Power Of NEO
40:56 These are some God Of Hyperdeath-level stunts. What a worthy continuation!
42:18 Those limp legs don't look sustainable... nor his sanity tbh. I dread a twist
42:56 :(. Ok so I guess that refers to MAX?
44:24 You don't need cash tho
47:26 Kris is deeply disturbed. I reckon it has to do with MAX. I wonder what the dialogue is here with the opposite option
48:13 A key difference between DR and OMORI is that DR tells you straight up what your protagonist looks like, moves like, and was like. In Omori you must guess his minute changes in expression, deduce his changes in behaviour from previous testimony, qnd fill in the blanks. How curious comparing both. Sunny > Kris tho
51:21 A strech, yes, but... an analogy? A cross reference? Did anyone detect the Wrong number Song anywhere?
that was hustle to read but it contributed quite well. Thanks for the addition!
Jeez how did you make all that
@@RandokatTheOnion I love making long timestamped comments! Helps tell my reactions and thought process in a way that a single comment can't express (my memory is very unreliable), especially in 3 hour long videos. Glad you liked it!
EDIT: Something I forgot: 24:30 Here Spamton punctuates his sentences excessively to [[Prevent any unbecoming intrusions!]]. I found out later
Spamton is like a mix between Jevil, Mettaton, Flowey, and Burgerpants… very interesting combination.
Also I’m seeing a pattern, and ima guess the next secret boss in the next chapter will also get their life recked by Gaster
no wonder i love him
51:49 his shop’s theme plays a motif from jevil’s fight. I think spamton and jevil were both connected to Gaster somehow and when Gaster fell into the core they went insane
I love how in every Spamton fight you can always press F1 for help like he said that one time.
I thought you could only do it once
I like the callbacks in the secret bossfight.
Makes me wonder if we are going to meet more bosses related to Undertale in future chapters.
I feel like Merg had some concerns at the beggining(maybe im wrong, it just felt that way) but now he is full on Deltarune mode again :D
Oh also remember what happened when Kris stood near our favourite fluffy boy for a while? Well, it may or may not be in this chapter as well ;D
the Ralsei hug thing is still here, i checked. :з
this isn't a mod
@@eyitsaperson op was probably trying to spell "mode"
@@Eduardo-vq1kr reddit moment
@@ernesto_7O7 moment'nt
Okay, if the Shadow Crystals transfer over for every chapter, you already know that there's gonna be a secret boss for every chapter leading up to 7, and if you collect all the Shadow Crystals, you will get the true ending or something in Chapter 7.
i believe if you fight the chapter 7 secret boss with all the shadow crystals, maybe you get to re fight every secret boss, since assuming you have all 7 shadow crystals, that means you have beaten each respective secret boss, i think the chapter 7 secret boss would corrupt the secret bosses and make them come back to their physical forms (not just weapons / armors) and you have to beat them
With all of the comments here, and the fact that I am as late as hell, you probably will never see this. But I do want to let you know that the mannequin is NOT useless, it actually probably saved from from a death or two. It reduces damage taken from Spamton NEO bullets by 35%, so don't bully the mannequin :(
not as late as me lol
watch someone reply to this in another year
He noticed the dummy's theme, and mettaton neos song, BUT NOT THE WORLD REVOLVING? I need to find someone who ignolages it.
acknowledges*
@@adroscbec thank you. not enough people realise it and it kills me lmao
When I noticed World Revolving playing in Spamton's shop I got goosebumps
I love how Toby Fox's music requires a PhD in music theory to _completely_ understand
Merg destroying the pots to revenge all the memes that the queen made me laugh a lot XD
Spamton is probably one of my favourite characters now. Simply because:
1. encountering him for the first time made me start to question the game I'm playing
2. Fighting him made me realise Deltarune can get dark at times.
3. Adds more layers to Kris as a character
4. Makes Ralsei more mysterious and sus
I really love the Ib vibes in the mansion gallery! "Respect the pottery" and all the paintings, wow. Nostalgia. Also the soul breaking noise from Undertale :O
I like how Toby tries different things in this chapter, from sprites (i was stunned when i saw the heroic entrance and the back flipping from the wheel what's it) or the messing with with how many or which characters we battle with and ofc than the unique cart fight... Which is than again presented during Spamton but now in different way.
I just like Toby having fun with it all, and am truly looking forward what will the other chapters bring...
And also ya, I did Spamton on my first try but it was realy challenging, ultimately i find this whole chapter harder in terms of evade patterns which i like, i hope that this scaling difficulty will go higher and higher.
17:24
I did not see that in my playthrough (as the teacup ride had already rose up by the time I went back to the area) and have not seen that in any other playthrough.
That sprite had not been seen anywhere in game (well... except MAYBE later...)
Very interesting...
WHO'S SMILE IS THAT AAA
The Cheshire cat, obviously! Totally not the next [BIG SHOT] who is a criminal, a criminal I tell you!
@@dratiniboi7165 Smile? Where??
@@57trees Check the middle of the teacup at 17:24 as it comes on screen
I love how Spamton-NEO is just the IKEA Mettaton-NEO 😂
Fuck you
You're absolutely correct
The ending of Big shot has the same tune as one in Mad dummy, symbolizing that Spamton is a puppet with no will of its own, sort of like a dummy. His and Jevil’s fights are the only fights in the game that show the text: “The air cackles with freedom” as they both mention it in dialogue before their fights.
His theme is actually so good and it’s cool how you can hear remixes of other boss themes aswell
Spamtom NEO’s boss theme is a combination of Spamton’s original boss theme, Dummy!!, Power of Neo, and World Revolving
can we just take a moment to appreciate how cool spamtons theme is
The combination of previous UT and DR themes is amazing, legit I listen to this theme every day
If you want a remix, some dude remixes it within a day I believe somehow
The biggest shot by nyxtheshield
I've started listening to it in the background, now I can't stop
@@MergOne Of Us One Of Us One Of Us
BIG SHOT is literally just leitmotifs to Mad Dummy, NOW'S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A, THE WORLD REVOLVING, and Power of -NEO- and I love it
_It's time... to be a _*_BIG SHOT!_*
0:13 The Spada Lisa?
0:34 No she will LMAO all she wants.
1:30 Now the Queen gets to punch you. >:D
2:07 You did not respect the pottery. Shame on you.
2:35 Why thank you.
4:06 Harder than the ball game I tell you.
4:50 Ngl that's a cool pocketwatch.
5:04 Bro they're bowing lol.
5:25 Oh no more pottery disrespect against the Queen.
6:00 Let's go Susie! >:D
6:47 Yup! The manager, you could say!
7:02 Yooo you actually got one!
7:32 Eyyyy.
7:39 Many seemed to think so lol.
7:48 Oof she don't like that chaos boy.
9:20 She fights you anyways lol, but complements you.
9:36 Don't all mansions have highways?
9:50 Ouch no- don't get teacup'd! You've got a harder one waiting...
10:20 _Keygen..._
10:36 A cursed-or lol.
11:06 Go Nubert!
11:18 Noice.
12:22 Guess the cars hate mice too?
13:12 So we're wearing a chain of email letters?
14:08 It's because there was a thing to select under his cursor head! :0
14:24 Bro he blind.
14:35 _Goodbye encryption._
15:00 Ah yes, the piano switch.
15:27 Enter... _the basement._
15:40 Mmmmoss.
16:07 Kinda looks like the back rooms.
16:52 They're like chain chomps!
17:14 Predicted lol.
17:58 It's gonna be even worse! >:D
18:25 Yeah it's a more Game Over style for Darkness Falls!
19:30 Almost choked but you saved it!
20:34 _Hi new body..._
21:37 Susie don't tease the goat boy! >:0
21:48 This is worse than chad this is... this is... *hawts.*
22:15 Personally I prefer to keep it to that one sprite, makes the impact better and makes more sense for the glasses.
23:14 Naahhhhh
23:35 Yeah it's... creepy.
23:48 It's the same shaking I see it. xD
24:02 Suddenly Rouxls Kaard.
24:22 Interesting...
24:26 Yooo Merg spittin bars!
25:05 _There he goes..._
25:48 YES! OF COURSE YOU CAN [help...] HIM YOU [Little Sponge]!
25:52 Even better. >:D
26:15 _Transfer complete..._
26:37 Well...
26:54 _HELLOOOOO NEOOOOOOO!_
27:06 Lmao the slight southern accent.
27:09 Unfortunately!
27:38 Yet darker...
28:03 Ah yes enlarge.
28:07 Kinda? He calls himself on in Snowgrave.
28:23 Eyyy the gang's all here to fight God!
29:00 JUSTICE TIME!
29:18 [[Big shot]]
29:24 _Don't you wanna be a [Big Shot]?_
29:26 Yes and it's worth it.
29:43 *_IT'S TIME TO BE A [BIG SHOT] MERG!_*
29:52 Yup. :>
30:00 His own little world...
30:03 YUP! >:D
30:44 It's the [NEO] we never had! :DDDD
31:23 Audience?
31:53 Even a heart attack!
32:25 I'm a man of the [Pipis] myself.
33:02 Yeah this attack is scary af.
33:09 _There is no audience..._
33:57 He always did that.
35:00 Yeah Spamton's the first... and the puppet thing... perhaps there's a connection? After all... we're the one in control. =)
36:01 Pipis.
36:12 It's the end of Dummy!
37:41 He's already free!
38:28 You can just use a normal item?
39:16 Funnily enough there is a way to spam [BIG SHOT]]s.
39:40 Just like him...
40:18 Rekt.
40:36 Even the original song title drop!
40:42 TIME FOR THE MOST [[ENLARGE]] ATTACK!
41:14 It's been there the whole time! :D
41:26 Near perfect timing ending the song. Spamton's free(?)
41:53 Lmao called it.
42:22 F.
42:48 But can we?
43:03 Number 2!
43:27 Yeah a bit awkward.
43:50 Oooo it's a Monika peephole?
44:32 The PuppetScarf to be exact.
45:26 The Dealmaker? The BossFighter? The DarkSecretsUncoverer?
46:22 Thank you Susie.
46:50 Float Boy?
47:06 Oh dear...
47:31 He's seriously super sus, like through the roof sus.
47:56 And I think Kris thinks so as well...
48:08 Awww.
48:25 Huh? No it hasn't changed.
48:40 Hah you'd be wrong.
48:46 The Addisons... his "friends"...
49:03 Cus he was a spammer, and a scammer, controlled with what to sell as a puppet...
49:33 Well...
50:17 _Abandoned..._
50:43 *_ENTRY NUMBER ###_*
51:12 HOLY [Cungadero] YOU'RE RIGHT-
51:39 They're just turned around lol.
52:30 Thanks Trashy.
Merg: *fights tasque manager
Merg: this might be the best designed enemy so far.
*S I M P*
Liking a character is simping now?
I Think Merg Was Just Saying It was Good Design That's All it's not simping
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The part where Merg breaks all the pottery, there's a joke about genocide in that...
btw, please do Snowgrave route.
I think he should do Snowgrave when he does Genocide
Let him finish the game at fullest and after this he can do a "secrets in deltarune chapter 2" video... i also wish he do that route too its so unique
Not making demands, I just can’t wait to see his reaction to how much darker this genocide run is. :-) There’s a lot to this chapter and I love it. Each chapter is going to be like a game by itself.
@@derekspradling7452 to be honest, the snowgrave route is a lot darker and more disturbing, which i still find absolutely amazing. but to me it just doesn't have the same emotional punch in the gut the genocide route had, again, to me at least.
however, both are still pretty great.
@@delete9540 I can see that. They just took the last game and added dialogue options, but that does it for me. Lol
21:52 Those eyes are another reason we need to protect our best fluffy boy !
Sometimes I think that Ralsei can't get any cuter...
Then something like 21:50 happens
Jevil and Spamton have been great secret bosses so far, great lore along with them too, I hope future chapters will have more like this
That battle theme song though, I've been addicted to listening to it for a while now, and I don't think it will stop.
Take a note on this!! Just in case you don't know,spamton's shop theme is just a slowed down version of jevils theme with a few pauses
51:40 They actually still do have faces, just that they are facing the wall. You can see this because some have a nose that's pointing to the wall.
51:40
33:00 am i the only one hearing the world revolving? Pretty cool tbh, still prefer jevil over spammy though
Kris was shocked. So shocked that they didn't respond to Susie and Ralsei
I don't think anyone's pointed this out yet, but one of the flavor texts for Spamton Neo is "The stage lights are shattered" which is a direct reference to Mettaton Neo's flavor text; "Stage lights are blaring"