Narrowboat Living - Our new Refleks Stove! Ep17
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- Опубліковано 28 гру 2022
- This video sees us removing our multi-fuel log burner and having a new Refleks diesel stove fitted by Lockgate. We removed the log burner in the coldest weather, at -8°C overnight, so we’re freezing for a couple of days. But the Refleks stove is toasty warm now. We hope you like this video, showing you the process involved in having this installed.
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Great information on the diesel stove, love a log burner, but cleanliness and efficiency are must 😊
Yes, we loved the log burner, it was really cozy, but the coal dust and dirt really was making us cough so much! We love the Refleks stove, it’s easy, you just light it and leave it, and it’s warm! Thanks Bob! xx
Nice...Well Done...I have a similar heater on my sailboat in Seattle it is a Dickinson (Newport) Diesel Heater...works the same way...2nd winter for me and I love it...puts out a lot of heat ...no smell, no soot, quiet, beautiful flames to watch... no reflex dealer near Seattle but Dickinson is close by...Best...SV Aquila.
Aww thanks Greg, yes, we’re so glad we changed it xx
After the Rhapsody on Ice it now looks very cozy and very clean! Congrats, no more hauling coal and wood! ❤
It was so cold when we fitted the stove, but well worth it, we’re so glad we changed to a diesel stove 👍😃 Thanks Eric xx
Really nice guys, looks amazing, just to be a bit cheeky, would it be possible for you to do a comparison vlog, on not what you think about this stove but a comparison on running costs, maintenance, you know, the stuff that the salesman doesn't tell you, many thanks for another great vlog ttfn ❤
Hi Nigel, that’s a great idea, definitely! I’ve written that down, so we’ll cover that soon. Thanks Nigel xx
Julia and Martin i just watched your video tour of your boat and I totally love it. It is so beautiful. You definitely have all the bells and whistles that others don't have which is exactly what I would want if I had a narrow boat. Unfortunately, I'm almost 63 and my husband is almost 70, so it won't happen in this life time. We would probably fall in just trying to get on the boat. I love the color. 👍Heidi Nolan
Aww thank you, what a lovely compliment! xx
Absolutely lovely done.
Thank you so much 😀
That was wonderful I, thoroughly enjoyed it!
Thank you! So pleased you enjoyed it xx
I visited that factory in Denmark with a old stove for renovating for the tugboat company i used to work for, it is such a nice old place and you can get you old Stowe reconditioned and upgraded.... They are made by craftsmen on old machines but are continuously developed....
Wow, that’s really interesting, thank you, we might look into the factory 😊
A Danish guy called sail life made a vlog from there about 6 years ago
@@16jan1986 ooh we’ll look it up, thanks! xx
love the new heater
Thanks Jane, we’re very pleased with it, so much cleaner and easier 👍😊 x
That looks, brilliant ! Very smart looking 🥰
Aww thank you, we’re very pleased with it xx
Very good job, stay warm and safe
Thanks Peter 😊x
That’s a smart looking new stove! Glad u have warmth again!
Aww thank you! 😊 Yes, it was so so cold the week we had it fitted, but it’s lovely and warm now, we’re really pleased with it xx
good vid on the cut look nice new fire you got thanks lee
Thanks Lee, much appreciated xx
Good Vlog I like the new fire, better than freezing while trying to get a coal fire going. Happy New Year to you both
Aww thanks Sid, and happy new year to you too! xx
We've just discovered your UA-cam channel and have started from the beginning. We love your footage so far as we enjoy feeling like we're cruising along with you. We're looking forward to following your travels! We had nb Parisien Star 10 years ago (another Crown boat) and kept a blog of our journey from Australia to live aboard for a couple of years. We saw Rhapsody in Blue during our travels! Bringing back such happiness memories. Elli&Mick
Oh wow! That’s fantastic! Do you think you’ll ever have another boat? Lovely that you remember our boat too xx
Outstanding. I can see the draw of both types of stoves.
Thank you! We love the new diesel stove and are glad we changed to it. 👍 xx
Hi Julie and Martin enjoyed watching your vlog on changing your stove. Happy new year to you both hope to meet up next year . Ruth and Dave life's Too Short
Happy New Year to you both too, hope we meet up again soon in 2023!! xx 😘
Just found your channel and really enjoyed watching this video. My plan is to watch all your videos starting with #1. Oh, did I fail to mention that I just subscribed. South Carolina USA
Hi Russ, lovely to have you on board! 😃 Thank you for your lovely comment. Bear with us on the first few videos, as we were only really putting together footage for our family and friends, we weren’t really vlogging then lol. But from Ep8 onwards we start talking more, we’re actually in the process of putting together a video of how it all started, how we came to be living on our narrowboat and vlogging, hoping to release it in a week or so’s time xx
Thanks. Made our minds up that we want a diesel stove!
It’s one of the best things we’ve done, we’re so glad we changed to diesel. There’s no mess, no storing coal or logs, and lovely and warm, we love it! Go for it! 👍 xx
Really enjoyed this informative video. We currently have a multi-fuel stove but it's looking it's age. It is tempting to change over to a diesel stove for an easier/dust free life.
Aww thanks Matthew, yes, that’s the main reason we did it, it’s nice not to have to worry about stoking the fire, or emptying the ash etc, it just does its thing 😃 xx
Thanks for vlogging the change over of stoves Julie. I’m
having a diesel refleks on my boat so was very interested to see how’s yours went. So glad you like it, and as you say it’s much cleaner and controllable with none of the ash. Love how you told Martin off ‘this is on UA-cam’ 🤣.
See you soon. Take care x
Aww yes, we love it, much easier than our other one 👍 Lol, re Martin, he is a proper joker, keeps me on my toes haha 😂 Hope to see you soon too xx
Fantastic vlog. We were magnet fishing at the windhole next to Tesco in Ellesmere today. Met up with the Hippy boat, Jules xxxx
OMG we must have walked past you!!! We saw people magnet fishing when we went to the launderette! We are moored behind the hippy boat, opposite the water point! Can’t believe we missed you! 😕 xx 😘
Great to see how far you have travelled since leaving Kilworth. We left not long after you bought her, and still dotting around Gayton area! So glad you are enjoying! Happy New Year to you both.
Hi Fiona, lovely to hear from you. Hopefully our paths will meet again soon, remind us of your boat name, we’ll look out for you?! Happy New Year to you too xx 😘
@@JulieandMartinonRIB it is Thomasina Alvinia, trad style boat with mid engine. Don't know if you had seen it as we were moored opposite work area. Spoke to you when you were buying and had a few giggles at Martin's colourful descriptions when ironing out problems initially, usually when walking Jack. Wee scots woman. We will certainly watch out for you.😁
@@fionasmith6755 yep now we remember!! 😃 hope we meet up again soon, we’ll b heading south in the spring 👍 xx
Jen and I are watching this video now. Aside from jumping around your videos out of order, we're so impressed with the work you did to switch over to the diesel stove. Between that and having a pump out toilet, you have heating and sanitation that seem the best choices for both. From what we've heard, choice of toilet is one hot topic on the cut!
Oh yes, toilet talk is a regular occurrence on the canals lol, but yes, we like our set up and are really happy with our diesel stove 😊 Thanks Steven xx
Very interesting 👍
Thanks Glyn, glad you liked it xx
The coldest spell of the year and you rip your fire out 😂😂 but wow the new one is looking fabulous, I bet it was worth it … I can’t wait to see it next time we meet up for coffee and nibbles 😄🏴☠️
I know, we couldn’t have timed it better lol 😂😂 yeah, we love it, looking forward to our next meet up in the new year! 😃😘xx
i had a refleks diesel stove on a old trawler kept the boat lovely and warm dryed the wet gear plus used to cook on it didnt use much diesel either great choice
They are a fantastic stove, like you say, keeps the whole boat toasty warm, we’re so glad we chose it xx
Hi really enjoyed your videos this year, interested to know more of your back story, like why you're now living on the cut and if you have any long term plans. Anyway hope you both have a great new year cheers Karl
Hi Karl, so glad you’ve been with us this year, thank you. We are currently putting together a vlog explaining how we came to be living on our narrowboat, and how we ended up vlogging too. Hopefully it will be in the next couple of weeks, fingers crossed. Happy New Year, hope you join us in 2023 xx
that kingfisher is stunning jane from new zealand
Aww thanks Jane xx
We've had this stove now for over a year , it's so clean & easy . Unfortunately diesel prices went up but then so has coal etc . On low & also webasto on 2hrs a day we use 40litres a week
Thanks Adie, yes, we haven’t had it long enough yet to work out our fuel consumption, but thankfully the diesel prices are coming down a bit now and like you say, it’s so much cleaner. 😊
This is a timely video as I have finally decided to look at replacing my Morso Squirrel with a diesel stove for all the reasons you give here. The Morso was fitted when I moved onto nb Bandoneon (formerly Sloe Roamin) in March 2018 and has performed well, keeping me and the cat warm but it would nice to not have all the paraphernalia and dust.
That’s great Peter. 😊 Don’t know if you’re aware, but you can get your Morso Squirrel stove converted to a diesel one by Lockgate stoves (our original one wasn’t suitable) If you like the look of your Morso, it is quite a bit cheaper and you get to keep your traditional looking stove, but without the coal and dust etc. Have a chat with Lockgate, they are lovely people. Hope this helps xx
@@JulieandMartinonRIB now that's a great tip! I'll call Lockgate on Monday 😀
I’ve always used diesel drip heaters over the years and never had a problem with them. When I go past a boat that’s got bags of coal and wood all over the roof I cringe at the the thought of all the manual labour involved🥴 In winter I run my Reflex on 28sec gas oil, it burns hotter and is very clean plus it’s cheaper than diesel
Ooh thanks for the tip! xx
How economic are they, how much is gas oil per litre and how much do you use per 24 hrs.
@@psy-op All this information is available on the internet🙄 try searching for Reflek 2000 heater and you’ll see fuel consumption figures - heat output: 4.2 KW (3675 kcal/h).
Fuel consumption: min. / max. 0.18 / 0.54 l/h?
28 sec gas oil is generally at least 25% cheaper than red diesel plus there is zero tax on kerosene, only downside is kerosene is not sold in marinas.
@@optimist3580 5% VAT on kerosene heating oil.
@@PaulThomasSouthWales thanks, yes I’m aware of that, still a lot better than the 20% on Red diesel for propulsion even when you take in to account the 60/40 split. Red diesel used for heating has 5% vat
Congratulations! Diesel stoves rule. I hope you've discovered the joys of using meth's rather than horrible smelly fire-lighters. Meth' spirit smells great and is hassle free. I thoroughly recommend using joss-sticks to light it. I have a Kabola back-boiler stove that works exactly the same as the Refleks. Just pour in the meth's, light the joss stick but don't blow it out - touch the flame to the pot and close the lid.
That way you've avoided filling the room with fumes. Alternatively you can snip the burning end off the joss stick to drop it in the pot for ignition.
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Ooh, we might just try that, thanks Dan! Happy New Year to you too xx
@@JulieandMartinonRIB CHEERS!
Please chuck the old chimney in the canal so we can pull it out.... the Martineers magnet fishing group 🤣
😂🤣 hahaha too late, it’s gone lol xx
@@JulieandMartinonRIB bugger 😂
@@judewilliams9345 You're gonna have to make do with bed-steads and shopping trolleys .. ....
Brillant! Thanks for showing the detail of your install. Clearly, doing this in the summer would be less chilling, but sometimes we just need to get stuff done. Do you have any idea of the running costs of the diesel versus the wood/coal stove? Cheers!
Hi, thank you, yes lol, it would’ve been a lot warmer in the summer hee hee, but we’d had to book it a few months ahead and really wanted it in place for when the hard winter months hit. We have our stove on 24/7 and we’re using between 4 and 4.5 litres of diesel a day and we usually have it on setting 2 or 3, so we’re probably on a par with coal at the moment. Diesel is coming down in price though now, we last paid £1.15 per litre and have been told it’s now at £1.08, so that will be good. For us it wasn’t cost, it was really more for health, no dust, soot and not storing the coal lol, now we don’t have to think about it, it just quietly does its thing and is toasty warm 👍 xx
wery good stove , they also use them in Greenland they wery populer there
Thank you so much for watching, yes, these stoves are fantastic, we’re so glad we changed it, thanks again! xx
and it look so fantastic on your beaterfull boath 🙂🙏@@JulieandMartinonRIB
@@luckylook4432 aww thank you so much! xx
Beautiful stove! Now this is going to be a very strange question but we have to ask. Those figurines that are on the shelf next to the new stove. They're the ones between the two fisherman trophies. They're a dark brown and "excuse me for this" they look like 'snake shaped turds'. Please, what are they and what do they have written on the bottom, etc.? Hope you both are warmer and will have less hassle without the coal & wood cleanup.
Hope you're both well ~ take care Mike & Lacy Oregon USA
Hahaha 🤣 you’re right!! They are collectible funny ornaments called ‘Turds’! We forgot they were on the shelf when we were filming, it was only when editing we realised they were there. Well spotted! 😂 I have to be careful how I put this lol, but from left to right: a driver (sh*te driver), a street fighter (tough sh*t), a romantic (sloppy sh*t) and a footballer (sh*te footballer) …… lol, you did ask 🤪 …. bet you wish you hadn’t 😂😂🤣
Hope you had a good Christmas xx
Looks fab. Did it help with the condensation?
Hi Stuart - yes, because it’s convection heat it’s a dryer heat. Also, as you keep a steady temperature 24/7, ie the boat doesn’t get cold then heat up, then go cold again like when we had the multi-fuel stove, there’s no chance of condensation build up on windows. Hope this helps, thanks! xx
Hello fantastic vlog! Is it expensive to run? Absolutely depends on usage, but an average?
HinDavid, thank you! We found if we had it on low, number 1 setting then it uses between 4 and 4.5 litres of diesel per 24 hours, and most of the time you only need it on seething 1, we only turned it up to number 2 occasionally when it was -4° or below, so this is a good indication, hope this helps xx
I've ran a propane heater inside my shop in the winter. I had to keep the garage door slightly open so that I wouldn't die. I also had some grease like film on some of my shelves. I know that this isn't propane but I was wondering how this is different in comparison to propane? If in fact that this is safe and doesn't cause issues like propane than I might replace my space heater that is propane with one of these.
I can’t speak for propane as we haven’t used that, however the diesel stoves are completely safe, easy to use, you can regulate the heat and are economical too. We only have the need to open windows if it gets too hot lol xx
@@JulieandMartinonRIB Thanks. That's awesome to hear! I didn't know that about diesel heat. Great stuff.
Hello. Do you find that the cold air around the floor gets warm or is that still cold with the new stove? Are you keeping the Reflex lit all of the time in the cold weather? Does the heat get around all of the boat or still sort of located in the area around the stove? Any condensation issues? Thanks.
Hi Joseph, wow lots of questions lol, here goes in order;
We have a fan on top of the stove and one at the top of the flue, which circulates the air, so the air near the floor does warm up.
Yes, we’re keeping it lit all the time, we turn it down to 1 overnight and then back up to 1.5 or 2 during the day. When it was -6° we had it a little higher.
Yes, with the two fans, it circulates the heat nicely, still a little cooler at the far end of the boat, but not cold.
No, the Refleks diesel stoves produce a dry heat, so it reduces condensation.
Hope this helps xx
Hi . Fantastic video. We are just trying out our stove today . Can you tell me where did you get ypur trivet & fan from . Thanks . Ant & saz ☀️
Hi Ant & Saz, you’ll love the stove 👍 xx
These are the items we bought, we got them from Amazon, see links below. We have two fans, one that sits on the trivet and one at the top of the flue pipe, to circulate the air. The one at the top we had to secure with a jubilee clip, as the stainless steel flue is not magnetic. Obviously do that when the fire is cold, as the flue gets way too hot to touch 🤪 Hope this helps xx
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Valiant Remora Magnetic Flue Pipe Heat Powered Stove Fan (FIR350), Black, 200 mm www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B079JPMQN7?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_dp_1BM060RWTT122YKKHGYD
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@@JulieandMartinonRIB so kind of you to reply. Thanks a bunch. Just ordered em from Amazon 👍... Ps ... the fire is lovely. We started it via the meths method but may well revert to the fire lighter method. Can I ask .... which method do you prefer? ... kind regards ant & Saz from boat happy days . ☀️
@@antsat37 we always use the meths ….. unless it’s warm, then NEVER try with meths, as it proper goes bang and takes your eyebrows off lol 😂
If we run out of meths, we’ll use a firefighter, but it tends to leave a small deposit build up where the fire lighter was. We haven’t got our fire on yet, still warm here lol, not for long though, as it’s just started raining! 🤷♀️ xx
@@JulieandMartinonRIB top stuff . Thanks so much . See you out on the cut somewhere. Byeee ☀️
What a useful video! I will buying another boat soon that I want to refit. I was thinking about a diesel stove but thought they were clunky, smelly things. I was so wrong. I'll definitely be considering one now. O not to have ash to empty and coal to lug ! 😄 Thanks for this.
You’re very welcome! Thank you for your lovely comment x
Whilst a real fire is the best it is the price to pay for it in physical labour and a mess that for some is a price too high.
If I had a boat built then I would install a multi fuel burner a mid ships but not make it the daily source of heat.
For that an onboard generator would supply electric panel heaters / and or hot air heaters.
Many have done what you're doing.
Thanks David, that sounds like a nice set-up, we’re very happy with the stove 😀 xx
Sorry i might of missed the info, but which model refleks is it please. Looks nice and toasty
Hi Paul, the model we have is a 2000KT. It’s fantastic, once it’s lit, you don’t have to do anything with it, just turn the heat up or down as required. Hope this helps! xx
Hi. I understand why there would be dust from a solid fuel stove - due to opening and closing and during cleaning etc. but since it has a door that closes while in use I'm wondering why it would cause more condensation than a diesel stove.
Hiya, apparently the diesel stove works more on a convection heat, I.e. it heats the cold air from the bottom and pushes warm air up the top, causing a dryer heat. That’s about the top of my knowledge lol 😂 Thanks! 😊
@@JulieandMartinonRIB Thanks. Do report your findings as you use this new stove. It should be a lot less dusty as you said before, but about condensation and also diesel consumption. Since you are on a separate tank for this I guess it will be easy to monitor. How did they get the fuel pipe all the way to the stove without having to take your wall lining down?
Hi, we will monitor it over the next couple of months 👍 The fuel pipe comes through the bulkhead from the well deck, then through the back of the cupboard, then under the shelving behind the fin-radiator panels, through an insulated cover, right along to where the stove is. The pipes are completely hidden from view and they’re also gravity fed, so no need for a pump either. Hope this helps x
@@JulieandMartinonRIB Ah yes, heater, not engine, so no need for a high pressure pump (or any pump as it happens). Still quite fortunate that there was a reasonably straight forward route for the pipe. No doubt you surveyed this before committing to the change.
I do look forward to hearing of your experience with the system. In particular I wonder how it stacks up against a diesel central heating unit, meaning if going diesel is it better to just run the central heating system and close off any radiators not needed at any given time. A fire is always a focal point, but then so is a TV these days. Growing up I was in an all electric house. In the living room (usually the only heated room due to costs) mum used to reduce the ceiling heating thermostat (yes, ceiling heating - don't ever get that!) in favour of the electric "fire", which she would then sit in front of like a black hole absorbing all heat energy with none being able to get past her. It put me off the idea for 2 reasons; 1. an electric 'fire' is not a fire (wondering how well a diesel heater qualifies) and 2. heat was not distributed. I've worked abroad, mostly in the tropics for the past 35 years, so that view has never been able to be retested.
Hi, is the stove hot to the touch when its on ?
Hi Michael, the sides of the stove stays cool, but the hot plate on top is very hot and also the small glass window is hot. The flue is hot, but the guard you can touch. Hope this helps xx
How did you find this stove for heating? Is it expensive to buy the gas compared to fuel for a wood/coal stove? Sorry, trying to decide which type of stove to get on my boat. Really want one of these. :)
Hi Jack, it’s great for heating the boat. We have it on 24/7 and it uses approx 5 litres of diesel per 24 hours. It keeps the boat at a steady heat and the beauty is you can turn it up if it gets really cold outside, or turn it down, or off if it gets too warm, unlike the wood/coal stove. It’s a lot easier, no mess, no storing coal, wood or kindling, no coal dust/soot everywhere, it just sits quietly heating the boat. And diesel is readily available from marinas and fuel boats, so always a supply. Hope this helps xx
@@JulieandMartinonRIB Oh, thank you so much. That really does help a lot. I think I will go with one like you have. Thanks again for the info and happy new year!!!
@@jackmedcalf6254 no probs! Happy New Year to you too! xx
Guess you should have done the stove conversion in warmer weather.......lol
Haha yes, but we wanted it done before the harsh winter fully sets in and this was the only time slot available. The weather was mild right up until 2 days before we had to remove the existing stove lol, couldn’t have timed it better 🤪 lol x
Hi are you still using your Reflex diesel stove? Is it expensive to run? Have you had any problems with it since you fitted it? Thanks Fiona
Hi Fiona, yes we’re till using it, it’s great! In winter it uses approx 5litres of diesel per 24 hours. We leave ours on constantly, usually on setting 1 and only turn it up if it gets really cold like mud temperatures outside. Keeps us toasty warm. Thanks! xx
Hi there thanks for your reply. Did you get a back boiler on your reflex stove to heat your radiators! If so do the radiators get hot enough? Or do you have a separate heater like a Webasto or Eberspatcher? Thanks Fiona
Hi Fiona, we have a separate Eberspatcher to heat the radiators. When it’s really cold we put the eberspatcher on for one hour in the morning and one at night, just to heat the radiators through. Hope this helps! xx
What size tank is that?
Hiya! The tank we ended up with is approx 50 litres, but originally it should have been 70 litres. If you are having one fitted, the bigger the better 👍 Hope this helps xx
Cheers, thanks for the quick response@@JulieandMartinonRIB
Nothing worse than someone's looking over your shoulder. Why you work
Lol, we did make sure that Paul was happy for us to film, I know what you mean haha 😂 x