Thanks for your video. I’m in Australia and labour are extremely expensive here. I think I’m going to attempt this myself. Thanks for each detail in explaining. It looks like hard work and lots of hours. I cant get a Sipho here by my boys can help hopefully. Cheers
Great video. Just what I needed to know to be able to supervise my contractor, who started off with a bang ten days ago and has turned out to be a bit of a "fly-by-night" . Delays mostly because of rain but also because his main worker went to a wedding in Mozambique after day one and has not yet come back ....
Brilliant video. Everything is very well explained. Thanks so much for sharing , but I have just 1 question ?? when can I come and swim in the fantsic pool , all the best from Robert UK London.
This was very informative for me personally as i was in this project monitoring my contract... they were so worried because i knew most of the things they were doing🤣🤣
I know this is old hope you can reply, how much gelcoat did you use, my pool has same surface as mine the guys are trying to sell me 60 kg of getcoat paint it seems like too much.
Great video thank you. Did you get the stick-on tiles from Nivitex cause I couldn't find it on their website. Please advise about the durability of the flexible vs the glass tiles. Thank you.
Hi, thanks for sharing this very helpful video. I currently have a plastered pool would I need to sand all the gunite down to plaster or can I apply fiberglass over it?
I have a 6x2 small fish pond which is built using concrete and tiled on top of it. It is lleaking and getting into the house wall as well. How to solve this issue without removing the tiles ? It is a new concrete tank. I guess it may leak for sometime and will stop after sometime ?
I’ve just had my Fibre glass pool resurfaced but the mosaic strips have come out very rough almost like a sand paper. Any idea why and how it can be fixed?
I'm surprised you didn't remove the brick and start a layer that would be under the brick. That should eliminate any water seeping through the seam between the different materials.
When you removed the old fiberglass, why didn't you just stay with the concrete instead of adding the fiberglass again. Fiberglass and resins doesn't bond to concrete and will just delaminate again. I repair these fiberglass over concrete pools all the time and have to fix the delaminating on most all of them.
i found that if the layer of cement is a strong mix, it bonds like crazy. However, if the fibre shell can move (like if the pool is left empty and in the sun), then it can come off when it changes shape owing to heat.
@@ecologicaltime You haven’t got the first clue about this topic. Seriously this is a perfect video to show how to do it completely wrong rather than a ‘how to’ style video.
hi, pool is the same as it was in the video. i only have this video published which was a few years ago: ua-cam.com/video/LgoppJ59Mig/v-deo.htmlsi=dkV8Xt9jLdrGxV4u&t=865 the pool has held up well. Now in 2024 its the same as it was then.
Hi, thanks for the thorough info on how to do this. I intend plastic fibre coating an existing concrete 'above ground' pool. It was originally a 'cisterna' for storing water for a small holding ut it was then tiled as a pool. After 5 years or so, the cracks have become too much and its near impossible to find them or cure them with tiles in the way. I am going to clear the tiles- clean and then coat in a similar way to you. Two questions...First, mine has very acute corners and I wonder if I should add round edges or will the fibre sheets accept being folded through nearly 90 degrees? Secondly, do you have a product name for the sheeting you used- The company you quote seems to have many options and as I am not in S.A. its not really fair asking them. Thanks again and good luck to anybody else who is going to try doing this!
hi, harsh corners can be rounded with some cement under the fibre but its not mandatory. Fibre can do 90 degree bends. School swimming pools have these right angles and the fibre handles it fine. You could do a second layer if you are concerned or if its a place where there is a lot of traffic - steps.The matt i used is the brand called Nivitex but its simply a chopped stranded matt. The company that sells the coatings would also sell the matt surely?
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. I will ask about Nivitex here in Portugal. I was going to ask about layers...You reckon a single layer is ok for the majority of the pool where people do not walk? I can't wait to get started and will be ready to drink a toast to you for your assistance when it is done!
thanks, if the glass is supported by a cement / concrete shell as you stated, then yes one layer is correct. Overlap by 10cm where the matts meet each other as shown in the video
Hi again. I have finally sourced the resin with a hardener that is right....But, like every other store I have visited or phoned, they only have glass fibre mesh- Its quite fine mesh but it is NOT matting. Do you think it matters? If it is all covered in resin perhaps its ok? I think the mesh is stronger than the matting so its just if you think the resin will not consistently fill the holes or the final surface is likely to feel rough becaause the mesh leaves an impression on the dried resin coat? Sorry to ask all these questions but your help is much appreciated.
please explain what is this csm mat? is it a cotton mat normally used in agriculture fields to control weeds or is it a fiber glass mat which is very expensive?
He mentions what it is around 24:30 time stamp. CSM = Chopped Strand Mat (fiberglass roll). Yes, it is expensive. 10 yards by 50 inches, (1.5 oz weight) runs about $48 USD (12/2018). That's just the CSM, not the wet stuff
everything goes well but my brothers when comes to mosaics please apply flow coat before applying the mosaic so it can shine blue direct to the mosaic sheets
Hello, That looks a nice job, hope you don't mind I have a couple of questions. The gap under the coping stone what size was this, where you tucked the mating into. Also did you have to use anything else to seal between the coping stone and the fiberglass. Going down this road ourselves as we can't find anyone here in France that is willing to do this . Thanks for a great video. Chis
thanks. The gap was about 10-15mm high owing to the coping being inclined a little so rain water does not run into the pool. The depth under the coping is about 15-20mm. As long as the coping is cemented then the fibre with the resin is sufficent. Just press it in quite firmly so that the fibre gets in at least 10mm under the coping. make sense?
I'm almost ready to start my project - your video has been a great help. Question return jets and skimmer how did you go about fixing/joining them to the fiberglass. I will be replacing them with new and all the pipe work. So not sure how much they should protrude from the concrete.
I am no pool worker. I own a concrete pool which i am thinking about applying a fiberglass layer to. My pool was previously painted. Do i need to remove the paint layer first?
Hi. How big is your pool (square meters)? And how many of the following did you use for your pool: 25l drums of resin, catalyst, fiber mat and acetone. My pool looks about the same size as yours and need to do the fiberglass next weekend. Thanks for the very helpful video :)
@@ecologicaltime Thank you so much for the feedback. My kids are nagging me to get the pool fixed and every pool company/contractor that I contact wants to sell me a new pool. My pool is currently cement (concrete) and there are many cracks that I need to fill before attempting to fiber-glass the pool. The size of my pool is 15m X 6m and another 0.5m (6.5m) by the steps. If I may ask, where did you purchase your product from and what was the total cost (more or less) for the materials? I browsed the web and the material seem very expensive if I purchase it locally (South Africa) There are companies that sell it for much less (oversees). The two gentleman that assisted you in fixing your pool, do you perhaps know if they would be available to help me fix my pool as well?
@@ecologicaltime please can you share the guys contacts ? This video was super helpful snd gave some confidence to do it myself . Using the guys in your video looks like it will really help me so if you could share that would be a real help
I dont have vids of people swimming but here is a video of the water inside and doing a floculation. Watch after about 4 mins when its clean. ua-cam.com/video/jnHnnm8oPi8/v-deo.html
As you can see that the Fiberglass did not bond to the concrete in the first place. Why not refinish out the concrete surfaces instead of reapplying the fiberglass to the concrete that will not bond again? I have a Fiberglass Pool refinishing company and run across a lot of this type of Fiberglass and concrete pools, most of them the fiberglass has come loose, not bonding to the concrete and is causing problems.
@Simon Evans That's right, Polyester resins do not bond to the gunite or marcite surfaces. We see it all the time, where the fiberglass sheeting is coming loose. You are better off staying with the surfacing agents and finishes that are for gunite and concrete pools.
Whoever Installed the original didn't get the right thickness there was not even close to a chance that was near 10mm thickness. That looked paper-thin A proper install would need a grinder to remove lol
what us? i see two workers. they should have mask on as well and eye goggles and as the owner it was your responsibility they were safe. and when you say, 'i'm using...' , you mean the men doing the work
ha ha that's funny. The resin ruins the clothes and shoes by the way. So I was the idiot wearing my trainers as they were destroyed after the job. Also ruined about two t-shirts and my hat. The two gents are dressed in the right gear.
I am a pool specialist and you did an excellent job
Dankie. Dit is baie insiggewend!
So am I and it was well done...acid wash would have helped a bit more bonding of the first layer but well done irrespective
Thanks for your video. I’m in Australia and labour are extremely expensive here. I think I’m going to attempt this myself. Thanks for each detail in explaining. It looks like hard work and lots of hours. I cant get a Sipho here by my boys can help hopefully. Cheers
Great video. Just what I needed to know to be able to supervise my contractor, who started off with a bang ten days ago and has turned out to be a bit of a "fly-by-night" . Delays mostly because of rain but also because his main worker went to a wedding in Mozambique after day one and has not yet come back ....
Brilliant video. Everything is very well explained. Thanks so much for sharing , but I have just 1 question ?? when can I come and swim in the fantsic pool , all the best from Robert UK London.
Great Video. have the same challange ahead here in Namibia now 🙂
Love your discription of a spirit level!
wow. excellent video.. Thank you.
Great help indeed! Not started yet but your video has given me encouragement!
This was very informative for me personally as i was in this project monitoring my contract... they were so worried because i knew most of the things they were doing🤣🤣
Love the burglar bars on the house. When will the grenade screens be going up. Lol
highest crime rate in the world - Johannesburg
After the fibre glass was the surface sanded down? Thanks for a very well documented video. What was the cost of the material used?
thanks. Yes its was sanded to remove rough surface finish. Cost R14k South African Rands with the labour
What do you do around the lights and the waterjets. I mean you can't really go behind them with the fiber glass.
How do you seal around the pool fittings. Lights, skimmers and jets etc. Thanks looks great
079 215 8746
Thx for sharing.
Hi
Thanks for video. Looks very well done
Do you remember how long and estimate what it costed?
Brilliant video. Everything is very well explained. Thanks so much
your a fuckwit hope u aren't fixining my pool
If I could show you a pic of what my pool looks like now I would. Had no idea what I was doing, only used this video as a guide and it’s perfect
Do you still have Sipho and Shepard's detail and would you still recommend them?
I know this is old hope you can reply, how much gelcoat did you use, my pool has same surface as mine the guys are trying to sell me 60 kg of getcoat paint it seems like too much.
Great video thank you. Did you get the stick-on tiles from Nivitex cause I couldn't find it on their website. Please advise about the durability of the flexible vs the glass tiles. Thank you.
thanks. yes i got the flexible sheets from Nivitex and then when i needed more i got from Pool Team. Glass is much nicer...
Hi, thanks for sharing this very helpful video. I currently have a plastered pool would I need to sand all the gunite down to plaster or can I apply fiberglass over it?
Fiberglass is for a smoother finish so you need to make sure you dont have cracks on your plaster surface and that its smooth then fiberglass it
Interesting, we don't use fiberglass finish in the US for in-ground pools. You guys also use Diamond Brite or Pebble Tec finish?
I have a 6x2 small fish pond which is built using concrete and tiled on top of it. It is lleaking and getting into the house wall as well. How to solve this issue without removing the tiles ? It is a new concrete tank. I guess it may leak for sometime and will stop after sometime ?
I’ve just had my Fibre glass pool resurfaced but the mosaic strips have come out very rough almost like a sand paper. Any idea why and how it can be fixed?
I'm surprised you didn't remove the brick and start a layer that would be under the brick. That should eliminate any water seeping through the seam between the different materials.
What was the final blue paint coating? Thank you for sharing.
Be sure to use a solid roller so as to remove the air...
Sir what paint do you use for a fiberglass swimming pool a gelcoat
When you removed the old fiberglass, why didn't you just stay with the concrete instead of adding the fiberglass again. Fiberglass and resins doesn't bond to concrete and will just delaminate again. I repair these fiberglass over concrete pools all the time and have to fix the delaminating on most all of them.
i found that if the layer of cement is a strong mix, it bonds like crazy. However, if the fibre shell can move (like if the pool is left empty and in the sun), then it can come off when it changes shape owing to heat.
@@ecologicaltime You haven’t got the first clue about this topic. Seriously this is a perfect video to show how to do it completely wrong rather than a ‘how to’ style video.
How do you suggest it is done, I wish to do my pool so would like to get it right.
Awesome job done. Where is the best place in Johannesburg to get all the materials from?
did you use epoxy resin or polyester resin to make the fiberglass?
Hello, Is it possible to have a update on how the pool is doing now.
hi, pool is the same as it was in the video. i only have this video published which was a few years ago: ua-cam.com/video/LgoppJ59Mig/v-deo.htmlsi=dkV8Xt9jLdrGxV4u&t=865
the pool has held up well. Now in 2024 its the same as it was then.
Did you say that you used cement WITHOUT SAND to plaster the walls? What kind of thickness did that give you on the plaster?
for patching yes it was cement alone. Its thin, about 10mm to patch the cracks.
Hi, thanks for the thorough info on how to do this. I intend plastic fibre coating an existing concrete 'above ground' pool. It was originally a 'cisterna' for storing water for a small holding ut it was then tiled as a pool. After 5 years or so, the cracks have become too much and its near impossible to find them or cure them with tiles in the way. I am going to clear the tiles- clean and then coat in a similar way to you. Two questions...First, mine has very acute corners and I wonder if I should add round edges or will the fibre sheets accept being folded through nearly 90 degrees?
Secondly, do you have a product name for the sheeting you used- The company you quote seems to have many options and as I am not in S.A. its not really fair asking them.
Thanks again and good luck to anybody else who is going to try doing this!
hi, harsh corners can be rounded with some cement under the fibre but its not mandatory. Fibre can do 90 degree bends. School swimming pools have these right angles and the fibre handles it fine. You could do a second layer if you are concerned or if its a place where there is a lot of traffic - steps.The matt i used is the brand called Nivitex but its simply a chopped stranded matt. The company that sells the coatings would also sell the matt surely?
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. I will ask about Nivitex here in Portugal. I was going to ask about layers...You reckon a single layer is ok for the majority of the pool where people do not walk?
I can't wait to get started and will be ready to drink a toast to you for your assistance when it is done!
thanks, if the glass is supported by a cement / concrete shell as you stated, then yes one layer is correct. Overlap by 10cm where the matts meet each other as shown in the video
Hi again. I have finally sourced the resin with a hardener that is right....But, like every other store I have visited or phoned, they only have glass fibre mesh- Its quite fine mesh but it is NOT matting. Do you think it matters? If it is all covered in resin perhaps its ok? I think the mesh is stronger than the matting so its just if you think the resin will not consistently fill the holes or the final surface is likely to feel rough becaause the mesh leaves an impression on the dried resin coat? Sorry to ask all these questions but your help is much appreciated.
If my pool has a floor drain can i still fiberglass it?
please explain what is this csm mat? is it a cotton mat normally used in agriculture fields to control weeds or is it a fiber glass mat which is very expensive?
He mentions what it is around 24:30 time stamp. CSM = Chopped Strand Mat (fiberglass roll). Yes, it is expensive. 10 yards by 50 inches, (1.5 oz weight) runs about $48 USD (12/2018). That's just the CSM, not the wet stuff
How many layers of sheets did you put down? How much did this cost you in Rand and where did you get materials from?
one layer with overlaps as shown. The company is called Nivitec as shown at end of video. Cost was about R14k with materials left over.
everything goes well but my brothers when comes to mosaics please apply flow coat before applying the mosaic so it can shine blue direct to the mosaic sheets
thank you
I'm doing the same thing in my pool . My vendor says it would be the frp thickness on my concerete pool will be 3mm . Is this enough? Need help please
frp?
Concrete cannot be less than 60mm
Not sure if i understand your question. Please ask again.
Hi, HOW MUCH WAS YOUR PROJECT COST TOTOALLY? THANKS
What is the border called and where can I find it? It's beautiful and would like to add it to our pool. Thanks.
mosaic - you can get this from any Pool Team store or the company that sells the materials called Nivitex. These companies are in South Africa though.
Hello dear friend
How many layers are used?
Hello, That looks a nice job, hope you don't mind I have a couple of questions. The gap under the coping stone what size was this, where you tucked the mating into. Also did you have to use anything else to seal between the coping stone and the fiberglass. Going down this road ourselves as we can't find anyone here in France that is willing to do this . Thanks for a great video. Chis
thanks. The gap was about 10-15mm high owing to the coping being inclined a little so rain water does not run into the pool. The depth under the coping is about 15-20mm. As long as the coping is cemented then the fibre with the resin is sufficent. Just press it in quite firmly so that the fibre gets in at least 10mm under the coping. make sense?
Thanks - Have you had any problem since you completed the work that I should look out for?
I'm almost ready to start my project - your video has been a great help. Question return jets and skimmer how did you go about fixing/joining them to the fiberglass. I will be replacing them with new and all the pipe work. So not sure how much they should protrude from the concrete.
This was 6 years ago and I guess it is broken again, right???
I have to do the same to my pool, could you put me in touch with the two guys that helped you?
hi, sorry they not doing pool repairs
I am no pool worker. I own a concrete pool which i am thinking about applying a fiberglass layer to. My pool was previously painted. Do i need to remove the paint layer first?
The fiberglass needs something to stick onto. Usually its a strong mix of cement. I suppose it depends what paint it is. Pool paint?
Yes Pool paint.
@Babita Mitchell did you remove the paint, I'm in the same situation.Can you let me know your outcome.
Hi. How big is your pool (square meters)? And how many of the following did you use for your pool: 25l drums of resin, catalyst, fiber mat and acetone. My pool looks about the same size as yours and need to do the fiberglass next weekend. Thanks for the very helpful video :)
approx 75kl
Which mat is the best to apply? Chopped Strand Mat Roll 40kg Roll - 400g, 600g or 800g?
min 600g. 400 will need two layers. if its for heavy use, then go with 800g. It will require more resin though
@@ecologicaltime Thank you so much for the feedback. My kids are nagging me to get the pool fixed and every pool company/contractor that I contact wants to sell me a new pool. My pool is currently cement (concrete) and there are many cracks that I need to fill before attempting to fiber-glass the pool. The size of my pool is 15m X 6m and another 0.5m (6.5m) by the steps. If I may ask, where did you purchase your product from and what was the total cost (more or less) for the materials? I browsed the web and the material seem very expensive if I purchase it locally (South Africa) There are companies that sell it for much less (oversees). The two gentleman that assisted you in fixing your pool, do you perhaps know if they would be available to help me fix my pool as well?
Thank you - how is the pool now?
same as it was in the video. All fine.
Thanks a lot for the video. How is your pool looking now, if I may ask? We also stay in SA and are looking at giving a facelift to our pool.
pool is perfect. Looks the same as it did the first day after the installation.
@@ecologicaltime please can you share the guys contacts ? This video was super helpful snd gave some confidence to do it myself . Using the guys in your video looks like it will really help me so if you could share that would be a real help
How is the pool doing now? Has in needed any maintenance?
no its the same as it was in the video except someone left a copper coin on the floor for two weeks and it made a small stain.
Three man job ,. one to watch while other two work!
someone needs to video
Any problems with black mambas?
fortunately i have yet to see a snake on my property
@@ecologicaltime cool. It looks like you have a good perimeter fence.
W had a black mamba, swimming off addington beach yesterday...🙀😽😹
how many layer of fiber cloth or mat was installed in the whole surface of the pool?
only need 1 layer.
what weight did you use? I assume close to 600g?
Pool pain yes.
Great job! Can we contact you?
Good job, I was just looking forward to some video with water in or people swimming, anyway it's just me
I dont have vids of people swimming but here is a video of the water inside and doing a floculation. Watch after about 4 mins when its clean.
ua-cam.com/video/jnHnnm8oPi8/v-deo.html
hi - what material did you use and where did you purchase it from? great Job by the way :)
thanks. Everything was bought from Nivitex company.
nivitex.com/make-contact.html
@@ecologicaltime can these be shipped to Nigeria?
Would have got it done faster if u would have worked as hard as the black guys.
someone needs to video :)
Hos many yards of the CSM did you guys use total?
sorry i cant recall.
As you can see that the Fiberglass did not bond to the concrete in the first place. Why not refinish out the concrete surfaces instead of reapplying the fiberglass to the concrete that will not bond again? I have a Fiberglass Pool refinishing company and run across a lot of this type of Fiberglass and concrete pools, most of them the fiberglass has come loose, not bonding to the concrete and is causing problems.
@Simon Evans That's right, Polyester resins do not bond to the gunite or marcite surfaces. We see it all the time, where the fiberglass sheeting is coming loose. You are better off staying with the surfacing agents and finishes that are for gunite and concrete pools.
Is this known as an inground pool with a fiber glass lining?
yes
Hi there could you send me the numbers of the guys that helped you?
is the blue stuff paint or gel coat?
yes
@@ecologicaltime So is it paint or Gel coat?,what is the spec of the product please?
how much does 1 m2 of mat consume resine
1ltr of resin
Are you able to share the guys who helped you contact details? Or can you please email it to me?
The one chap went back to his home country.
if ya lucky
Whoever Installed the original didn't get the right thickness there was not even close to a chance that was near 10mm thickness.
That looked paper-thin
A proper install would need a grinder to remove lol
what us? i see two workers. they should have mask on as well and eye goggles and as the owner it was your responsibility they were safe.
and when you say, 'i'm using...' , you mean the men doing the work
You in dbn or jhb
sameshen naidoo, that's joburg rain,.😹😹😹
Need to buy yr friends some new shoes and clothes.😁
ha ha that's funny. The resin ruins the clothes and shoes by the way. So I was the idiot wearing my trainers as they were destroyed after the job. Also ruined about two t-shirts and my hat. The two gents are dressed in the right gear.
the process of this pool will give you about a 3 year warranty
www.nivitex.com/swimming-pools-fibreglass-lining.html
DIY, a little bit, with the 2 black guys you hired doing most of the work.
sure, this is not a one man job, they very good.