These men are awesome. Attention to detail. I would pay these men to touch my pool any day. They're people that do what they do and they're people that do what they love! Thanks for the video.
Nice job Dale. Great video making all the steps easy to understand. Also kudos for coming back and answering many of the questions posed to you. This is how we learn.
I worked for an outfit based in Southern NM, and we resurfaced a pool in Lake Placid. we used a gun to spray our chop and resin all at once. It's cool watching it done by hand.
i dont no who still sees this video but it is the best i have seen so far and i will use it to repair the fiberglass walls full of blister on my pool the pool was built in 1971 and has not been used in many years but is still in good shape besides the blisters hope by using this video will be swimming in it this summer
Thank you for the response to the video. I get a lot of calls from others wanting to repair their pools and are using the video as a guide line. Good luck with your project.
What a superb video!! Thanks!! I do have one question, though.... I was under the impression that a fibreglass pool required bracing to stop it from caving in once the water has been emptied from it?? Why did you not have to brace this pool before commencing the job?
Thank you. I had made this video to show customers how we go about repairing pools. It is easier to show the customers than to try to explain the process we use. I will have a new video coming soon also on repairing blisters and the complete restoration of a pool. Stay tuned.
@@dalekoehn4691, do you use a specific resin for the CSM? I used some Bondo Fiberglass Resin with 1708 to repair a couple holes, but it looks much thicker than what you're applying, and seems like it would be hard to spread and get smooth with a roller. Any advice on where I can find what you use? Thank you!
@@jamieverley I use a low profile laminating resin. The Bondo resins that I have seen is a gel and not good for much of anything in my opinion. The best place to find Resin is a Marine supply store or a Fiberglass supply outlet store if one exist in your area. Good luck in your search.
@@patrickcollins9845 Oh, yes you can go that way. We do not apply Fiberglass mats onto all pools that we do. The reason we applied the fiberglass mats in the video was to show how to go about if it is needed. The only reason we will glass is if we find many, many small blisters the size of pencil erasers, to many to try to fix, on the surfaces. The Fiberglass mats will act as a barrier to keep the small blisters from opening up. Hope this helps you out.
What attachment is on when your grinding the floor?? Currently taking off fiberglass off a pool and need tips on how to do it easily. Im Currently using a hatchet and chopping up peices off. Any other ideas i could do??
Well done sir. Great job. Nicely explained. Your team is very methodical. I know video is a couple years old but what would be the cost to do something like that. Regards
Dave Could you Please provide the product info on the fiberglass, materials, resins, and paint that you used in this video. ?? Thanks alot! My pool is drained and in the process of doing this work. My pool is identical to the one in this video. Thanks for your help and this video.
Jay, I would say not to use the resin putty on concrete. Do you have a concrete pool that has been fiberglassed over? I have not seen blisters on a concrete pool, unless the concrete was fiberglassed, there are some companies that do the fiberglass overlay. Polyester resins will not bond to concrete, so there would be delamination of the putty from the concrete. Hope this helps answer your question.
We only use non waxed gelcotes. You can put as many coats of gelcote on without any sanding required. Only the final gelcote layer has waxes added to the gelcotes. Just make sure to not go any longer than 48 hrs. in between coats of gelcote.
awesome video. I have this same pool. has a crack at the top edge that's starting to spread. crack to around the water line. was wondering if drill a hole in it would stop the crack. if so, would I have to drain all the water?? any help would be GREATLY appreciated. thanks
Dale refinished my pool and less than a year later all of the gel coat has been bubbling off. Defective materials? Dale has not returned any calls or texts, I hope that he is doing okay, but the gel-coat he used didn't adhere and we have to completely redo this project. It did look great for about 10 months!
I live in Bradenton ,Fl. Have a fiberglass pool that is blistering. It's 10 x 28 rectangle, With 3 steps, 16 yrs old. Was wanting a ball park figure on the cost. And If you do work in this area?
Me W, sorry to say that we do not work in your area. As far as a ballpark price, it all depends on the amount of blisters and other repairs that would need to be done. I would venture to say the cost would be in the $6500. - 9000.range.
Can anybody tell me the best poolpaint brand to use for older fiberglass pools? I have an older San Jose fiberglass pool and the gel coat has come off and the fiberglass is showing! I am in San Antonio,Tx and the weather is hot and sunny so the sun takes its toll! Help!
@@trentcantu2031 I have an all-fiberglass pool that needs help. We are in the Black Hills of SD. If you would like a pool with a view, we'd appreciate it. We have a guest apartment if you need it.
Bummer. Have a pool with plaster and fiberglass on top of the plaster (for whatever reason they chose to do this I don't know) and the pool is decades old and the paint or gel on top of the fiberglass is peeling in one location in the deep end about 4' x 2' section.
I have an all-fiberglass pool that needs help. We are in the Black Hills of SD. If you would like a pool with a view, we'd appreciate it. We have a guest apartment if you need it.
We can go about it a couple of ways. If a well point was installed when the pool was installed, then we can pump water out from under the pool. If no well point was installed, then we can put a temp. well point in and pump the water out that way. Best to do repairs during the dry time of year.
You could do it, but the issue is that the Fiberglass and resins will not bond well to the concrete. We repair a lot of pools that have had fiberglass layered on concrete done by a company and the fiberglass releases from the concrete. We have seen where you could pull the fiberglass loose by hand from the concrete. It is best to just stay with your concrete pool with no Fiberglass added to it.
I drain the water down to about 2/3 empty of water first. I then get into the pool and feel if there is any water under the pool. If no drain pocket is there, then I take long drill bits and drill 1/2" holes through the fiberglass into the ground. This process will make the hydrostatic pressures the same on both sides of the pool and ground and then we can keep pumping with out worry the rest of the water and the pool stays in place. Hope this answers your question.
Wouldn't it be easier to just rip out the existing fiberglass layer instead of performing all the initial steps associated with blistering? Much of the time I would expect the fiberglass layer to be separated from the plaster already anyway. Just may have to re-tile, but still seems simpler...
Brian, it is a mix that we make. It is Polyester resins, Q-cell, Cab-o-sill and chopped fiberglass strand mixed up. I like to repair blisters and put back what was taken out of the laminate.
I cannot understand why anyone would apply fiberglass and resins to a pool surface and not coat the fiberglass with something to seal the surface of the pool. They must have no experience with working with fiberglass laminates and coatings.
@@danielle22226 I may NOT have the correct language, but,,, We had many black spots popping up inside our fiberglass pool. From one year to the next they doubled in numbers and size. We hire a company who explained to us what it was and what it was called. They drained the pool. Ground the entire interior of the pool. Ground out all these black spots and any blisters. Let it all dry. Filled anyplace that was ground deep into the fiberglass and then put (1) layer of fiberglass with some (white in color), resin that came in 5 gallon buckets on the walls and bottom rolling it all in with rollers and what they called a PIN ROLLER to get any bubbles out. It was very coarse. Next time I went out back, they were filling the pool and said they were done.... You can still see the fiberglass sheet and it is still very rough and now, 4-5 years later, the black spots are coming back..... (We had issues with these black spot right away, but they did fix them). Still, there is no gel coat and we could never get them to fix or finish it. Before anyone says: CALL A LAWYER, lawyers cost FAR MORE than I would ever get out of this failing company.. I would really like to have it done by someone who knows what they are doing and that will make it like NEW!!! Ps. They called the black spots COBALTING....
@@danielle22226 I don't remember exactly, but the same afternoon they finished sanding the steps, they were already filling the pool... I questioned it, but they said it flashed very fast, so no worries. Hell, they had the deep end full to about 3 feet while one guy was cleaning up and the other was touching up the top edge.. This truly pissed me off. Their website said 3 coats and the last two were leveling and color. It was supposed to be BLUE!! To add insult to injury, they covered over the skimmer flange. So to change anything there it has to be ground out.. Guess who's WEIR VALVE is shot!! (This weir valve snaps into 2 curved fingers on each side. New weir door doesn't stat in place as the fingers are worn out).
Sorry Salvador, I cannot help you out. As We are located in Southwest Florida, we do not know any company or person to have you contact in your area. Good Luck.
These men are awesome. Attention to detail. I would pay these men to touch my pool any day. They're people that do what they do and they're people that do what they love! Thanks for the video.
Thanks Motto, if you are going to repair something, do it the right way, not the fast way.
Thank you for the nice review.
Nice job Dale. Great video making all the steps easy to understand. Also kudos for coming back and answering many of the questions posed to you. This is how we learn.
Thank you for the nice comments.
I worked for an outfit based in Southern NM, and we resurfaced a pool in Lake Placid. we used a gun to spray our chop and resin all at once. It's cool watching it done by hand.
That's alot of labor and patience. Redid my fiberglass steps. Had probably 15 blisters no way I'd want to do an entire pool!
excellent information. Thank you.
i dont no who still sees this video but it is the best i have seen so far and i will use it to repair the fiberglass walls full of blister on my pool the pool was built in 1971 and has not been used in many years but is still in good shape besides the blisters hope by using this video will be swimming in it this summer
Thank you for the response to the video. I get a lot of calls from others wanting to repair their pools and are using the video as a guide line. Good luck with your project.
Did you end up repairing your fiberglass pool yourself?
What a superb video!! Thanks!! I do have one question, though.... I was under the impression that a fibreglass pool required bracing to stop it from caving in once the water has been emptied from it?? Why did you not have to brace this pool before commencing the job?
Nice Job. Just to be clear... I see Utra Guard Gel Coat... is that used for the patches and applying the fiberglass afterwards?
This looks great! How far do you travel for another pool repair?
Thank you very much for this great how to video.
Thank you
@@dalekoehn3955
Hi where are you located
how do you finish off the edge that meets up with the brick at the water line
Dale...My original gel coat lasted 20 years, how long does your system last and what is the guarantee?
You should totally sell a how-to series! I bet you'd make a mint. Great videos!
Thank you. I had made this video to show customers how we go about repairing pools. It is easier to show the customers than to try to explain the process we use. I will have a new video coming soon also on repairing blisters and the complete restoration of a pool. Stay tuned.
@@dalekoehn4691 Hey Dale, is it possible to fill blisters and then gel coat without re-fiber glassing the entire pool?
@@dalekoehn4691, do you use a specific resin for the CSM? I used some Bondo Fiberglass Resin with 1708 to repair a couple holes, but it looks much thicker than what you're applying, and seems like it would be hard to spread and get smooth with a roller. Any advice on where I can find what you use? Thank you!
@@jamieverley I use a low profile laminating resin. The Bondo resins that I have seen is a gel and not good for much of anything in my opinion. The best place to find Resin is a Marine supply store or a Fiberglass supply outlet store if one exist in your area. Good luck in your search.
@@patrickcollins9845 Oh, yes you can go that way. We do not apply Fiberglass mats onto all pools that we do. The reason we applied the fiberglass mats in the video was to show how to go about if it is needed. The only reason we will glass is if we find many, many small blisters the size of pencil erasers, to many to try to fix, on the surfaces. The Fiberglass mats will act as a barrier to keep the small blisters from opening up. Hope this helps you out.
Excellent work.
Do you not clean off the gel coat with acetone after it’s dried? It usually leaves a tacky feeling without cleaning it off
What attachment is on when your grinding the floor??
Currently taking off fiberglass off a pool and need tips on how to do it easily. Im Currently using a hatchet and chopping up peices off. Any other ideas i could do??
What type of gel coat are you using, is it the so-called top coat or waxed gelcoat? How long do you let dry between each gel coat application?
How long does it take to grind off the blister?
Well done sir. Great job. Nicely explained. Your team is very methodical. I know video is a couple years old but what would be the cost to do something like that. Regards
We were quoted $4550 just for a gel coat. No repairs. Doesn't include draining of $995.
Amazing Job and your explanation it very didactic. 👍👍👍
Thanks for your comments, thanks also for viewing.
Dave
Could you Please provide the product info on the fiberglass, materials, resins, and paint that you used in this video. ?? Thanks alot! My pool is drained and in the process of doing this work. My pool is identical to the one in this video. Thanks for your help and this video.
Did you get a reply on resins used?
Thank you for the video. Can I use the resin putty in blisters from a concrete pool as well?
Jay, I would say not to use the resin putty on concrete. Do you have a concrete pool that has been fiberglassed over? I have not seen blisters on a concrete pool, unless the concrete was fiberglassed, there are some companies that do the fiberglass overlay. Polyester resins will not bond to concrete, so there would be delamination of the putty from the concrete. Hope this helps answer your question.
Hi Dale...would you come over to Clewiston for a job like this? Thank you. Don Shivers
What brand of resin are you using?
How can you tell if a fiberglass pool has a concrete locking collar?
What preparation is needed between gelcoats. I have been told you need to re-sand each coat so the as it will or stick?
We only use non waxed gelcotes. You can put as many coats of gelcote on without any sanding required. Only the final gelcote layer has waxes added to the gelcotes. Just make sure to not go any longer than 48 hrs. in between coats of gelcote.
Why don't you put gel coat down before you leave fiberglass?
What gelcoats do you use?
awesome video. I have this same pool. has a crack at the top edge that's starting to spread. crack to around the water line. was wondering if drill a hole in it would stop the crack. if so, would I have to drain all the water?? any help would be GREATLY appreciated. thanks
A drill hole should stop the crack from spreading. Should be able to just drain the water down below the repair area in order to fix the cracked area.
Dale Koehn THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!!!
Dale Koehn do you know how many gallons this pool is? I bought a house with this same pool. the previous owner is deceased.
not for sure, think it was around 8800 gals
What type of resin do you use? Polyester?
Dale refinished my pool and less than a year later all of the gel coat has been bubbling off. Defective materials? Dale has not returned any calls or texts, I hope that he is doing okay, but the gel-coat he used didn't adhere and we have to completely redo this project. It did look great for about 10 months!
Good day gentleman great job. Which part of the world are you in. I'm asking because I am in South Africa JOHANNESBURG
What kind of cost would this be ?
Would it be ok to fill the blisters then gelcoat the pool w/o refiberglassing the entire pool? If not why? Ty.
I would like to know the answer to this question too
Is that a special kind of Gel Cote that is being used? something more resistant to chlorine?
Tyler, we use a ISO. NPG. Ultra Gaurd Gelcote for repairs.
Great thanks
Amazing.
what's the name of gelcoat used please?
I live in Bradenton ,Fl. Have a fiberglass pool that is blistering. It's 10 x 28 rectangle, With 3 steps, 16 yrs old. Was wanting a ball park figure on the cost. And If you do work in this area?
Me W, sorry to say that we do not work in your area. As far as a ballpark price, it all depends on the amount of blisters and other repairs that would need to be done. I would venture to say the cost would be in the $6500. - 9000.range.
Thx u for replying...
Can anybody tell me the best poolpaint brand to use for older fiberglass pools? I have an older San Jose fiberglass pool and the gel coat has come off and the fiberglass is showing! I am in San Antonio,Tx and the weather is hot and sunny so the sun takes its toll!
Help!
I fix any and all issues related to fiberglass pools. Im in the San Marcos, TX area and can do everything in this video
@@trentcantu2031 I have an all-fiberglass pool that needs help. We are in the Black Hills of SD. If you would like a pool with a view, we'd appreciate it. We have a guest apartment if you need it.
Hey Dale, are you in Southern California? Would like to get a price. Thanks, Brian
Brian, we are in S. W. Florida, so sorry we cannot help you.
Bummer. Have a pool with plaster and fiberglass on top of the plaster (for whatever reason they chose to do this I don't know) and the pool is decades old and the paint or gel on top of the fiberglass is peeling in one location in the deep end about 4' x 2' section.
How long does a repair last?
Just got a pool and it’s not even finished yet and has a crack in it. I’m regretting my decision of even getting one now
I repair all fiberglass pools regardless of issue. I travel anywhere in the U.S. but since Dale is in Florida ill let them have that one😁
I have a project in Indy!!
How about NM?
I have an all-fiberglass pool that needs help. We are in the Black Hills of SD. If you would like a pool with a view, we'd appreciate it. We have a guest apartment if you need it.
@@tosseiaholmes6112still have the project?
@@dawnb7972I have a fiberglass repair company, I can help you out!
what do you do to keep the pool from lifting in the 3 weeks it takes you to do the job
We can go about it a couple of ways. If a well point was installed when the pool was installed, then we can pump water out from under the pool. If no well point was installed, then we can put a temp. well point in and pump the water out that way. Best to do repairs during the dry time of year.
What type of mess did you use?
@@dalekoehn3955 Do you have any videos on how to install a temp well point?
Do you sand again between applying the mats and the gel coat? Such an awesome video!
Yes, we do sand the new fiberglass installed before applying the gelcotes.
@@dalekoehn4691 thanks so much for the reply! I'm going to try doing this myself in the next couple months. Your videos are really great!
@@jamieverley Good Luck with your project.
What is the putty used to fill the bubbles? Do you use Cabosil and Qcel? Thanks!
@@jamieverley when making the putty, use resin, 1/4" chopped fiberglass strand, Q-cell and cab-o-sil
What are blisters? How and why are they formed? Are they preventable?
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Can you convert a concrete pool into a fiberglass pool, meaning you just add fiberglass on the concrete?
You could do it, but the issue is that the Fiberglass and resins will not bond well to the concrete. We repair a lot of pools that have had fiberglass layered on concrete done by a company and the fiberglass releases from the concrete. We have seen where you could pull the fiberglass loose by hand from the concrete. It is best to just stay with your concrete pool with no Fiberglass added to it.
This is taking days to do. We resurface pools in two days. Statewide Fibreglass. Willing to travel anywhere for work.
Do you use the Fibertech product when you refinish fiberglass pools?
Do you still work on repairing pools?
Im in west palm beach. do you work that area, and do you have a blue gel coat.
we do not work in the West Palm Beach area, sorry.
Good morning do you in orlando area
If anyone still is in need of services shoot me a text 929-4126 Sarasota Fl we will travel
How did you drain the fiberglass pool without it pushing out of the ground?
I drain the water down to about 2/3 empty of water first. I then get into the pool and feel if there is any water under the pool. If no drain pocket is there, then I take long drill bits and drill 1/2" holes through the fiberglass into the ground. This process will make the hydrostatic pressures the same on both sides of the pool and ground and then we can keep pumping with out worry the rest of the water and the pool stays in place. Hope this answers your question.
People say never to drain your pool or it will pop! How are you able to drain it completely to fix it?
experience
Know where your water table is at and remove the static plug at your bottom drain
how long did it take to make all these steps ?
+Samuel St-Jacques it took me around 3 weeks with another week for curing
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How much did a job like this cost???
Wouldn't it be easier to just rip out the existing fiberglass layer instead of performing all the initial steps associated with blistering? Much of the time I would expect the fiberglass layer to be separated from the plaster already anyway. Just may have to re-tile, but still seems simpler...
Chris, this is a all fiberglass pool. There is no concrete substructure under the fiberglass. I wish it was that easy. Thanks for your comments.
their is no plaster with a fiberglass pool
AP fiberglass look us up in phoenix AZ we do travel out of state
I cant find a decent fiberglass pool repairman that would do this type of job in my area in el paso texas
That's what I plan to have done on my motorhome fiberglass roof (it's also 20 years old).
what did a project like this cost the homeowner?
+kodiackid , it was around 7500.00 for this pool to be resurfaced
Dale I live in north port what is this job today I have same pool but with a big crack on bottom can you tell me a round about price now
Can you fix a fiberglass pool that has cracked?
We do fix a pool that has cracked from time to time.
Wow. Good job 👍👍👍🏆🏆🏆🏆💸💸💸💸
No respirator worn. Don't the fumes get to you?
What type/brand (epoxy, polyester, vinyl ester) of resin do you use to fill the blisters?
Brian, it is a mix that we make. It is Polyester resins, Q-cell, Cab-o-sill and chopped fiberglass strand mixed up. I like to repair blisters and put back what was taken out of the laminate.
Can I buy this stuff anywhere. I live in arkansas. I am pretty sure you are not arround me
Thanks for the reply!
Steven, you would need to find a Fiberglass supply house, maybe a marine store might be able to help you also.
I have a pool that needs resurfacing can someone tell me contact info for estimate? I live in central Florida
We are about to purchase a new fiberglass pool from san juan pools, good company? Another ? Is will this happen in time to all fiberglass pools ?
san juan makes a good pool. it is possible after 15 -20 yrs. you will need some repairs done.
Hope that was a warranty repair. I'd ask for a new pool ughhhh
No warranty on this job. Pool was 20 yrs. old.
Dale Koehn wow great work man! What’s a job like that cost...
Who can fix cracked coping around a fiberglass pool in the Metro Atlanta area?
Can u send pix please
Still need services
@@joeviverios9812 No, but thanks.
Do you reduce your gelcoat
No, we don't thin our gelcotes at all.
Where were you when I had mine done?? The guy that did ours stopped after the fiberglass. NO GELCOAT!!
I cannot understand why anyone would apply fiberglass and resins to a pool surface and not coat the fiberglass with something to seal the surface of the pool. They must have no experience with working with fiberglass laminates and coatings.
I’m very curious. How is your pool doing w/o the gelcoat on it?
@@danielle22226 I may NOT have the correct language, but,,, We had many black spots popping up inside our fiberglass pool. From one year to the next they doubled in numbers and size. We hire a company who explained to us what it was and what it was called. They drained the pool. Ground the entire interior of the pool. Ground out all these black spots and any blisters. Let it all dry. Filled anyplace that was ground deep into the fiberglass and then put (1) layer of fiberglass with some (white in color), resin that came in 5 gallon buckets on the walls and bottom rolling it all in with rollers and what they called a PIN ROLLER to get any bubbles out. It was very coarse. Next time I went out back, they were filling the pool and said they were done.... You can still see the fiberglass sheet and it is still very rough and now, 4-5 years later, the black spots are coming back..... (We had issues with these black spot right away, but they did fix them). Still, there is no gel coat and we could never get them to fix or finish it.
Before anyone says: CALL A LAWYER, lawyers cost FAR MORE than I would ever get out of this failing company.. I would really like to have it done by someone who knows what they are doing and that will make it like NEW!!!
Ps. They called the black spots COBALTING....
@@SteveP-vm1uc wow, how long did they let it dry before filling it?
@@danielle22226 I don't remember exactly, but the same afternoon they finished sanding the steps, they were already filling the pool... I questioned it, but they said it flashed very fast, so no worries. Hell, they had the deep end full to about 3 feet while one guy was cleaning up and the other was touching up the top edge.. This truly pissed me off. Their website said 3 coats and the last two were leveling and color. It was supposed to be BLUE!! To add insult to injury, they covered over the skimmer flange. So to change anything there it has to be ground out.. Guess who's WEIR VALVE is shot!! (This weir valve snaps into 2 curved fingers on each side. New weir door doesn't stat in place as the fingers are worn out).
THE POOL WILL BE FILLED WITH WATER
I need my pool recoated, I live in San Jose California any phone numbers?
Sorry Salvador, I cannot help you out. As We are located in Southwest Florida, we do not know any company or person to have you contact in your area. Good Luck.
@@dalekoehn3955 Thank you.