Someone Drained Our Fiberglass pool! This is not good!!! [Fiberglass Pool Installation]

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  • @danlowe
    @danlowe 4 місяці тому +11

    Leaving you to discover it rather than prepping you for it before you could get out probably just gave you peace of mind. What was done was done at that point. Love the color of that house.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  4 місяці тому +1

      The best part was, he thought he was helping lol. Either way it’s water under the bridge

  • @bigashcan
    @bigashcan 5 місяців тому +15

    Hi regards backfill for your pool I have used portable conveyors belts. The great advantage is you’re not messing the site up with machinery going in and out.
    I used 6x6 yard long conveyors.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  5 місяців тому +2

      That’s a great idea about feeders, but they just don’t work out for us to get a job done quick because we have to contract one out and the timing just doesn’t work. Plus, we can’t shoot Rock over the pool.
      I’d like to use one one day

    • @Piffaliff
      @Piffaliff 5 місяців тому +1

      Yep portable conveyors work great so much time,mess and grass saved using those=very happy clients everytime

    • @JimsEquipmentShed
      @JimsEquipmentShed 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jonport_ Every time you see a treadmill on the side of the road, grab it. ;-) They are not just good for use as a cloths rack. ;-)

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  3 місяці тому

      @@JimsEquipmentShed 😂😂🫰

    • @seen48
      @seen48 2 місяці тому

      Yeah a small conveyor would work wonders. The one from rental houses like Herc Rental and Sunbelt carry them. Perfect for this application to back fill a pool.

  • @Jennifer-c5j
    @Jennifer-c5j 15 днів тому

    U said what I was thinking.... THIS IS GONNA TAKE 4 EVERRR...😂

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  15 днів тому

      @@Jennifer-c5j lol. It did too.

  • @ardronlandscapes
    @ardronlandscapes 4 місяці тому +28

    We rent a big air compressor with a 1” line and a 4’ long pipe and valve. I think they call it a blow gun? The air pressure blows the fine gravel into the space under the steps. Turns that 2 hour job into a 30 min job.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  4 місяці тому +5

      Interesting. how well does it actually pack?

    • @ardronlandscapes
      @ardronlandscapes 4 місяці тому +6

      We have to watch it doesn’t lift the pool up… so pretty well!

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  4 місяці тому +2

      @@ardronlandscapes interesting.

    • @johncolvin2754
      @johncolvin2754 2 місяці тому +2

      I was just thinking a converted leaf blower could do this even 😂

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  2 місяці тому +1

      @@johncolvin2754 haha. No way

  • @martinyballer7037
    @martinyballer7037 5 місяців тому +6

    Days for the hands on sad face thumbnail are over. 😂

  • @seen48
    @seen48 2 місяці тому

    That opening for the pool was dug way big, you said it. So much extra stone now when you had dirt available to back fill. Ugh. Pool with the big hole to be filled that one a conveyor system would be the best. Rent them from Herc Rentals or Sunbelt Rentals. That one looks like a challenging job.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  2 місяці тому

      Well, this was a demo so there’s nothing I can do about the Over dig and I certainly can’t backfill With Dirt because I’m putting concrete overTop. I would’ve liked to gotten a conveyor belt, but just wasn’t enough room.

  • @KHtally
    @KHtally 25 днів тому

    Spray foam to fill voids?

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  25 днів тому

      @@KHtally I wouldn’t advise using sprayfoam

  • @xlr8profits
    @xlr8profits 5 місяців тому +6

    Dude. Your composure under stress is admiration city!

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  5 місяців тому +1

      🙏🏻 brother that means the world to me! Thank you🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @Average-Joe
    @Average-Joe 3 місяці тому +5

    Not sure why you choose 3/4" minus instead of sand. Also the sump should be below the pool so any surface water that seeps in can be pump to remove any chance of it popping out. I started installing fiberglass pools back in 1978 and have never used 3/4 ,minus. Over time the rock will stat showing on the sides and bottom from the weight of the water. Also we use the sump to pump out the water as we jet the sand in and pack it that way. I've only had one pool pop due to the customer draining the pool to clean it and leaving the hose run outside the pool and not running the sump while doing it! So 45= years of experience says never use rock! Who ever told you to use it, is sadly mistaken. 5-10 years from now, you will see the rock! - FYI

  • @TheTishy44
    @TheTishy44 4 місяці тому +3

    Boomers thinking they know better and helping and screwing crap up…..my dad and father in law were like this.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  4 місяці тому +2

      All good. Honest mistake.

    • @jeffreywatts94
      @jeffreywatts94 Місяць тому +1

      @@jonport_classy reply, good for you.

  • @rinkopr5561
    @rinkopr5561 2 місяці тому +1

    Would anyone consider a flowable fill a mixture of mostly sand, water, and some cement that flows like water, but hardens like rock without vibration or compaction?

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  2 місяці тому

      @@rinkopr5561 I thought about it. I just don’t know if I want to do it or not.

  • @billwells3836
    @billwells3836 4 місяці тому +4

    That rock sucks for packing you should have used baserock

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  4 місяці тому

      We use a 3/8 minus crush Stone for packing steps. If there’s any real big gaps, then we use a three-quarter minus. I’ve tried using the bigger rock to pack and it is in nightmare for sure.

    • @Nancy-y8q1n
      @Nancy-y8q1n 2 місяці тому

      They trying to cut corners

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  2 місяці тому

      @user-vh2pk6bd3g never

  • @MapSpawn
    @MapSpawn Місяць тому

    I'm new to pools, I'm wondering why at 6:15 you would ever do this? If you laser leveled the gravel and then placed the pool, wouldn't that be better?

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  Місяць тому

      @@MapSpawn are referring to packing under the steps?

    • @MapSpawn
      @MapSpawn Місяць тому

      @@jonport_ ya it looked like if you didn't do that perfectly, it could crack and becomes ruined.

  • @PappyNet01
    @PappyNet01 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for sharing the project. It was cool to watch! I never operated mid-to-heavy equipment, but I think the operator maneuvered around the fiberglass shell really good. I live in Florida and 2 years ago I had a front row seat watching my neighbor's rebuild their swimming pool: I am very glad I got to watch the whole process from demolishing the old swimming pool and rebuilding a new swimming pool. I cannot believe that a lined pre-fabricated swimming pool is much less expensive than a concrete/gunite swimming pool built on site. The big dump trucks hauling away the construction debris and returning with new dirt busted the neighborhood's main water line!
    Geez Louise, I cannot find a contractor willing to repair/restore my parent's swimming pool and other home maintenance/improvement projects; consequently, I have become a "Novice DIY Guy". I have so many DIY Projects ahead of me. I am concurrently working on my parent's swimming pool [14,500 gallon capacity] and surrounding ground [I plan to plant new sod]. It is huge job for me: our swimming pool and pool deck was built in 1984 [too bad it wasn't my childhood home]. The pool needs maintenance/repair: besides a few tiles falling into the pool the following areas need repair; 1) the coping area needs to be cleaned and prepared for new mortar and/or concrete sealant, 2) the pool deck slabs may need to be jacked up unless it causes more damage, 3) the pool deck needs to be cleaned, resurfaced (?) and prepared for new mortar and/or concrete sealant in the control joints and cracks and 4) reattach tiles where necessary, I know I need to lower the water level to let the tiles and coping area to dry, In my research of swimming pool maintenance and repair, I don't think our swimming is in despair as I once thought: I guess that is why I do not get a quote from contractors. Most contractors want to demolish and build a new swimming pool - we are not going this option.
    ua-cam.com/play/PLGVI8bUyFEzpt5Ezt31wy1SBgv1pqu1g_.html&si=jmzGdzsDdq-8Mg04

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  Місяць тому

      @@PappyNet01 yes I got your work cut out for you. That’s awesome and the best of luck, my man.

    • @icebreaker19631
      @icebreaker19631 24 дні тому

      ​ if you don't backfill enough gravel to support that fiberglass how thick is a fiberglass on that lip turn on that part because if you have a 3 or 400 lb guy stand on there and you don't fill it up tightly against it it could give or crack.? I worked at fiberglass for a long time Milt boats jet skis aerators and all types of Tanks including nitroglycerin tanks which never made a lot of sense to me considering how much static electricity fiberglass causes but I guess if they make sure it's grounded it'll be all right

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  24 дні тому

      @@icebreaker19631 this shell is really hard to crack. But we go buy a 10/10 till which is, 10in of water and 10in of gravel. As you fill up and backfill

  • @christopherstaples6758
    @christopherstaples6758 4 місяці тому +2

    still trying to work out why no sand ? , warranty here is only valid if sand used with crusher dust being the only other allowed base

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  4 місяці тому

      I like the drainage you get with crushed stone.

  • @dzymslizzy3641
    @dzymslizzy3641 2 місяці тому +1

    I would think that sanding should be done BEFORE the water is added...just sayin'

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  2 місяці тому

      @@dzymslizzy3641 sanding the concrete? Do you think I should’ve not filled the pool up first?

  • @joanmullen2552
    @joanmullen2552 3 місяці тому +2

    I would leave that stuff on the pool just added protection.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  3 місяці тому

      Its not needed. Fiberglas is extremely durable.

  • @Floridamancan
    @Floridamancan 13 днів тому

    That is not how you pack rock back fill. This is rookie af

  • @Snowy84557
    @Snowy84557 2 місяці тому +3

    Kids will jump up from the bottom of pools. If one time they accidentally bump the wall on their way up, they could bash the overhang hard.
    With that much overhang... better hope the kids are being watched closely of they could knock themselves out and drown.
    Also too sharp at the bottom side. Less overhang and more deflection.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  2 місяці тому +1

      @@Snowy84557 the overhang is a standard 3/4-1in over hang

    • @seen48
      @seen48 2 місяці тому

      Not a really big deal in the grand scheme of things.

  • @fvrrljr
    @fvrrljr 2 місяці тому

    *CHARGE HIM!*
    should've put the dad to do the dirty work, teach him a lesson
    *Don't Touch My Work EVER!!!*

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  2 місяці тому +1

      @@fvrrljr its all good. Honest mistake

    • @fvrrljr
      @fvrrljr 2 місяці тому

      @@jonport_ *LOL* didn't have my morning coffee and was tapping into my new word for the day *curmudgeon* yep in my 60's. great video love seeing other Trades

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  2 місяці тому

      @fvrrljr haha. Thank you!

  • @desert-walker
    @desert-walker Місяць тому

    I have no suggestions I retired five years ago my days are busting. My butt are over. Good luck.😊

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  Місяць тому

      @@desert-walker right on lol enjoy your days

  • @infovidasupps8640
    @infovidasupps8640 3 місяці тому

    1965 called
    They want their brick house back

  • @stevenbeland5398
    @stevenbeland5398 2 місяці тому

    rock throw truck would make very short work of that. ,

  • @billwells3836
    @billwells3836 4 місяці тому +1

    I did not see fines in the rock in the video

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  4 місяці тому

      It can be hard to see. Packing with that big rock is so hard believe me we’re using small stuff lol

  • @mikimiki195
    @mikimiki195 Місяць тому +1

    So why is it beg deal if you empty out pool?

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  Місяць тому +1

      @@mikimiki195 well, for one it slows us down in the backfill process and 2nd if you empty a fiberglass pool will backfill around it it can cave in and compromise your shell. That could have happened here but luckily it didn’t

    • @mikimiki195
      @mikimiki195 Місяць тому

      @@jonport_ thank you for clarifying I keep hearing people talking about not being g able to empty pool. It makes sense now 👍🏻

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  Місяць тому

      @@mikimiki195 anytime. Overall, you can empty a pool, but it has to be done through the right channels and right process with supporting the walls and such and the builder has to do it or avoids the warranty. At least it does for us on the brand that we sell.

    • @StinkyBlack1
      @StinkyBlack1 Місяць тому +1

      A pool that can’t be drained? Hard pass.

  • @meruliouslacrimens5154
    @meruliouslacrimens5154 3 місяці тому

    Should have used FIBREGLASS POOL, rather than that inferior fiberglass stuff you use.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  3 місяці тому +1

      @@meruliouslacrimens5154 not totally sure what the means my man

  • @katiejo1095
    @katiejo1095 2 місяці тому

    Use a large diameter tube to funnel the gravel into the hard to reach space under the pool.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  2 місяці тому

      @@katiejo1095 ive done that before.

  • @AlphaMachina
    @AlphaMachina Місяць тому

    So, you need water weight in the pool so that the material you're dumping around it, doesn't cause it to float up?

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  Місяць тому +1

      @@AlphaMachina no. if water around the pool gets too high with not enough in the pool it can float. you want to fill the pool up as you backfill so the walls don’t push in and bend the shell

    • @AlphaMachina
      @AlphaMachina Місяць тому

      @@jonport_ Makes sense, thanks for the reply!

  • @joanmullen2552
    @joanmullen2552 3 місяці тому +1

    Oh my did it pop?

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  3 місяці тому +1

      Luckily it did not

  • @NoseyLurker
    @NoseyLurker 3 місяці тому

    Conveyors!!!!

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  3 місяці тому

      Maybe

    • @seen48
      @seen48 2 місяці тому

      Getting that stone to the other end, portable conveyors for sure. Just run them along side of the pool. You might need 4 16’ lengths for jobs like that.

  • @jaredportukalian9325
    @jaredportukalian9325 5 місяців тому

    Wetscapes Pools
    Tag us

  • @wickedbird1538
    @wickedbird1538 4 місяці тому

    😮😮I guess I am not sure why he pumped out the water. But I can barely use a hammer.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  4 місяці тому +4

      Haha. If there gets to much water around the shell it can float. Just like a toy in the tub. You definitely don’t want to drain the water in the pool shell because thats whats keeping in weighed down. So you have to be careful

    • @wickedbird1538
      @wickedbird1538 4 місяці тому

      @@jonport_ thanks

  • @kerrytodd3753
    @kerrytodd3753 Місяць тому

    Never used gravel…..washed sand.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  Місяць тому

      @@kerrytodd3753 why is that?

    • @kerrytodd3753
      @kerrytodd3753 Місяць тому

      @@jonport_ It just seems to wash down under the steps better, less coarse I suppose. If we dont have washed sand we will use unwashed but it has to be good quality with little to no clay. Steps and step outs are the toughest. We also use “somewhat” high pressure water to wash the sand under the pool. Occasionally will still have some settling and yes broken pvc from the settling. We always fill the pool completely and the process of backfilling usually takes a couple of weeks. Backfill, wash, repeat in several “lifts”. We always run the sump to get rid of the groundwater while we backwash, A real PITA. It’s the biggest drawback to fiberglass pools, they excel in other ways however.

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  Місяць тому

      @@kerrytodd3753 interesting

  • @michaelrauff734
    @michaelrauff734 3 місяці тому

    Self loading dump buggy

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  3 місяці тому

      Idk about them. To big i think?

  • @r.ccustomtruckingsydneyaus4632
    @r.ccustomtruckingsydneyaus4632 3 місяці тому

    Maybe it was a water helicopter 😂

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  3 місяці тому

      That would be sick lol. I could only imagine.

  • @ZackForester
    @ZackForester 3 місяці тому

    The whole you dug is too big.

  • @timschregardus5613
    @timschregardus5613 2 місяці тому

    What’s the point of the sana tube

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  2 місяці тому +1

      @@timschregardus5613 i wasn’t able to get good compaction on the rock so we added the tubes for extra support for the concrete patio

    • @timschregardus5613
      @timschregardus5613 2 місяці тому

      @@jonport_ you build pools in Oregon by chance

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  2 місяці тому

      @timschregardus5613 no sir i don’t. Im in louisville ky. I have done some traveling to build but never Oregon. Are you building yours?

  • @briankleinschmidt3664
    @briankleinschmidt3664 4 місяці тому

    Well, you shouldn't have filled it with money. . .

    • @jonport_
      @jonport_  4 місяці тому

      💵💵💵💵