I think a good honorable mention to all of this human hunger is how in fallout 4, there’s the Longneck cannery. That place is run by a dude who put ghoul meat into the food and causes a bunch of people to get sick
@@kingofhearts3185 My thinking tends to be that cannibalism isn't really a an act defined by biology, it's mainly about how you treat categories of beings that have or are associated with personhood, differently from you treat things we don't consider people. A ghoul is at the end of the day just a very changed human, and there's not that much fundamental biological distinction between a sapient ghoul with a clear humanity, and a non-sentient ghoul. For the record, I also think the idea of eating sapient beings even of completely unrelated species to us, to be almost morally the same as human cannibalism. I honesty get grossed out by the thought of people eating whales or apes in a way that is at least comparable to the thought of eating people. I mean, it's a cruel world, so it's not like I think you have to be crazy to do anything like that, if there's a need for it, but to the extent that we really wanna create some sort of really noble society, I do think we should create a norm of not instrumentalizing the bodies of sapient beings, and probably eventually moving away from eating sentient being as well.
No mention of the Marked Men in the Divide? They've got a meat processing facility set up in the basement of one of the surviving buildings, full of human skeletons and gore.
When you ask Bob for some Iguana Bits after you confront him, he says something like that: "You what that they are made of and you still want one?! You make Decker look like a kid" . That pretty much confirms, that Bob is not himself a cannibal.
As someone from Appalachia (specifically Western PA if you care lol) there are legends of folk in the mountains who lost their mind and went cannibalistic, some people believe they are responsible for folks that go missing along the Appalachian trail, and then also the Algonquin legend of the Windigo
Do people often dissappear on the trail? I'd love to hike in the US but as a European, im worried about your local wildlife being a higher weightclass than back here lol
@Svoorhout85 I’m also from eastern PA like OP. If you decide to hike the Appalachia, never ever ever hike alone. Never give out your real name either. And always stay armed, most critters won’t bother you but you never know. Mountain lions are mostly wiped out here, but still they can rarely be seen.
@@Svoorhout85 wildlife can be a threat, that's why I would carry a hunting rifle or shotgun while hiking just in case a critter wanting to make you it's meal approaches Edit: something I forgot to mention, yes people go missing among trails, national parks and forest all the time all throughout the US and Canada which birthed the missing persons profile 'Missing 411' which is more of the supernatural side of missing persons, but not always supernatural
I submitted to Bethesda the idea of adding Strange Meat and recipes using said meat. Also adding more gore-related decorations like the hanging meat bags, blood decals, those meat-shopping carts, Gourmand faction flags. It'd be nice if the Gourmands could return as a joinable faction.
I think we should mention hillarious way of roleplaying as aspiring cannibal in Fallout: New Vegas to get the perk "Meat of Champions". There's something special in eating King, Caesar, Kimball, House (and probably all other leaders if you feel like it) to show everyone that you're the apex predator of Mojave.
Look, if i dude that managed to get to the leaders of the strongest faction in the word (at least to your knowlage), kill them, eat them, and survived, i wouod be freaked out too.
The effects of that perk seem a bit unclear to me. When I first heard about it, I assumed that the timed bonuses you get are applied when you eat that leader. I then realised that that's a pretty worthless perk and that you probably get the timed bonuses from all cannibilisation after you eat the leaders. The thing is, it's a Bethesda published game using their engine, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was the former. Can anyone confirm if it's the former or the latter?
It would be super cool if when you have the Cannibal perk, you could pull a special unarmed attack where you could pull a Mike Tyson on anyone. If they are part of a group, there is a chance to make them flee.
Interesting thing is that in Andale Jack mentions that someone said that someone has a kid and family in Rivet city, and the only known fatherless family there is Hargrave family. So here something to think about.
It's just as likely that said family is just *implied* to exist, because: It's Bothosdo; The engine used in Fallout 3 was 11 years old at the time of release; Basically the only time they used it to its full effectiveness was in Morrowind; And said engine clearly has issues with the number of entities that can exist.
I mean how can we not talk about Cannibal Johnson? Even if he only ate the one fresh, raw human heart that is still enough to count as having eating a fresh, raw human heart.
@@AgusSkywalker depending if you really want to get harsh on the definitions, or go the route of the ancients, that even having the flesh in your mouth could count as cannibalism
@somepennsyltuckyin9353 I like to think that it's a gross mutilation of a corpse. I mean all he did was rip open a heart, just yano with his teeth instead of hands
I like how the wendigos include aspects of both the greed and cannibalism from their folklore origins Also like how some of their mental decline gives the appearance of a mutated prion disease
I figured it was radiation that made the wendigos but the idea of prion disease assuming human neural tissue is consumed would make sense as a contributing factor in the transformation
@@ryanbusch2885 considering they fight alongside ferals whenever present it wouldn't surprise me if they were considered an offshoot in the fallout canon
its strange for some reason i never considered the vampires as cannibals. i guess i was just too focused on the vampire thing that i forgot that blood is a part of the human body
Do you mean "The Family"? Cuz when i met them i was doing a full evil playthrough and made them looks like civilized citizens. I had cannabilsm and the bloody mess perk. Ended up turning them into chilli with a shotgun by accident and then ate em all. That was a crazy run
I’m sorry, but the Scoot-wendigo carrying “loose screws” is the funniest thing I’ve seen all day. Please tell me more of these characters have this inventory joke!
I know me and many others speculate that Wendigos may be a very specialized and exceptionally mutated version of ghouls. They act like ferals, live with ferals, and share many similarities. Plus the Wendigo Colossus was likely heavily inspired by the Beanpole Ghoul.
I think you’re right! Maybe something about cannibalism changes the trajectory of the transformation slightly. Also I think you might mean the Maypole Ghoul.
Honorable mention to all the protagonists that can become cannibals as well, as they can do anything from just have a quick snack, to take parts from people's bodies to save for later, to even being able to eat Ghouls and Super Mutants as well.
Maybe there is a specific gene that allows people to become wendigos. That could explain why they can only be found in Appalachia in fallout 76 because the people there all have similar ancestry that carries the gene.
I always thought it was a combo of FEV, mad cow disease, and the radiation. It's definitely something I hope is explained at some point cause it is kinda weird that it was only in Appalachia.
I think the wendigoes are some kind of offshoot of ghoul caused by excessive cannibalism and radiation. They're supposed to be beings with unending hunger yet they are often shown working with packs of ferals. You know how sentient ghouls are ignored by ferals? I think its the same thing here, they somehow recognize the wendigo as one of their own.
@@claytopolis Well that is what I mean not everyone has what it takes to become a ghoul and not everyone has what it takes to be a wendigo. So because they can only be found in Appalachia it is some genetic quirk only in that region that allows for it.
I always assumed it was basically just a super ghoul, maybe consuming flesh while becoming a ghoul or even consuming the flesh of a ghoul or someone with a ghoul gene fucks you up more than just becoming a ghoul, clearly there is a connection between ghouls and wendigo
For people wandering why there aren't any wendigos on any other places other than Appalachia, i might have found a quick theory. So wendigos are only in west virginia because they're basically humans who resorted to extreme cannibalism AND ghoulification, it's noticed on how they're immune to rads, able have a glowing version and are usually found with hordes of feral ghouls, also there are wendigo colossus who were doing extreme amounts of cannibalism like Earl and got irridiated by the mining equipment, so I think wendigos are born out of a severe length of cannibalism and the ghoulification mutating with each other, turning them into these. Or it could aswell be some ancient curse like the old virginia legends or like the Dunwich stuff.
Actually wendigo colossus happens because many wendigos were fused because of extreme and sudden radiation spikes aka nukes hence why they can only be found in nuked zones
I thought it was mostly because there called wendigos due to the amount of wendigo folklore that comes from mountains(Appalachia) and the north where there's very harsh winters. I mean it would be understandable their not Super-mutants there Wendigos in the folks eyes.(Im not meaning to sound rude just curious)
Regarding Arefu, I actually always figured the "deal" you broker involves the people of Arefu donating blood to consume, not just searching for old blood packs. But I guess it's never actually stated either way.
That damn 'rolltide' whisper during the andale section nearly made me choke on my hot dog You can't do that shit to me, I was not expecting that at all
a lot of stuff in fallout 3, such as the blood packs, are pretty handily explained by the fact that it was originally meant to take place around 20ish years after the great war, not 200, and it was changed rather late in production
Andale is my favorite I also always forget where it's at so finding it on a playthrough is nice and talking philipe into a existential crisis is also awesome
I think it is kind of incorrect to say that no groups are stated to be cannibals in Fo4, the super mutant are quite explicitly depicted as cannibals, e.g. the “decorations” in their locations and occasional human bones found in their loots.
Strong has dialogue about which parts are the best and to be careful about fingers and toes getting stuck in the teeth. There's also Malcom in Far Harbor with the hunger for "talking meat"
Now that I’ve actually given Fallout 76 a chance (really good. Now, not even a year ago, but right now it’s finally in a playable state), and learned more about Wendigoes, it gives me more evidence to my speculation about what’s really going on with ‘Ghoulification’ What do Wendigoes have in common with Ghouls? Pretty much everything (perhaps Wendigoes don’t live as long, it remains to be seen until we get another Fallout game that features them), EXCEPT, ghouls are caused by Radiation, and Wendigoes by Cannabilism. And yet... it doesn’t really answer anything. Why do they transform so completely, and seemingly so common, as opposed to both circumstances just killing them like any human? The answer might not be based in logic and science, but something more... cosmic... darker... supernatural. If you’re familiar with Dark Souls lore, perhaps these aren’t transformations at all, maybe Ghouls and Wendigoes are *reversions* . A return to what all humans harbor deep within, our true origins, and maybe even... creators.
But Radking, what better way to know Atom's glow than to consume that which he touched? We must sustain our bodies the same way his holy reaction was sustained, through the consumption of the self and others!
Dude, screw wendigos! They're the reason I never explored half the damn map cause I'm always afraid they'll be in a f***ing tree and jump me. They creep me out more than any other creature in the Fallout series, hands down.
Completely understandable. That actually happened to me when I puttered around Mire once, caught sight of it as it jumped down from a tree right next to me as I was running past and it scared the life out of me. That bit of PTSD always creeps up whenever I wander around there now. D:
I saw the mothman my first time after wandering a random direction, it just stared from behind a tree then phased away. Spookiest iv ever seen in FO games
If you choose to help Mortimer but bring him a different person than Ted to butcher, I seem to remember you can even choose to sacrifice one of your own companions, right? I'd call that the most evil route to finish this quest.
"Sacrifice one of your human companions by going to the kitchen and locking them in the freezer. This will end the quest. Note: you will lose anything they are carrying." Indeed
Even if it's a one-off interaction or unmarked quest, I would love it. Meet a Family member out in the wastes or bar somewhere. He asks for help with caps/supplies, saying he's trying to get back to his "Family" in Arefu.
I'm suprised you never mentioned that the restaurant the white gloves operate is called the gourmand. it makes me wonder if there's some connection to the gourmands in 76.
I assumed they were and over time cannibalism wasn't as necessary to survive but was also not frowned upon and still done when fighting with other tribes. Since it wasn't necessary to survive it was easier to turn away from that lifestyle.
@@MillieBlackRose but if we're to assume the gourmands and white gloves come from the same group. how and when did they travel all the way to the Mojave?
In FO4 if you’re playing in survival and have the cannibal perk you’ll develop a “dark craving” where it acts like an addiction. Your hunger meter can only be filled by eating people, you still benefit from other food for hp and buffs but your hunger is only satisfied by cannibalism
9:00 I think it should be noted that the Vault 22 survivors were likely influenced or sick or infected at that time and were going mad (mentions of coughing fits). I think their cannibalism was directly a result of all the biological horror that happened in their vault. Even Randall seems extremely shocked that the "jumpsuit people" actually ate their prisoners.
In Fallout 4 after you clear out echo lake lumber yard in far harbor there is this one guy that can make a deal with you that really sounds like you'll send settlers there for him to loot and eat
The vault 22 dwellers might of been influenced by the pesticide it just doesn’t make sense for them to be cannibals switch how Zion has wild life and lots if plant life
In fairness, Zion was still recovering, so plant and animal life wouldn't be as abundant as it is during FNV just yet. It's possible they had no idea if the plants were poisonous or not too, but this is just speculation on my part.
You forgot the one specific Trapper from Far Harbor that offers you a deal where you send people to a village and he implies he will hunt and eat them. Malcolm
Man I never played 76 but I remembered it dropping with no npcs so I was so confused when he was mentioning npcs from the game, looks like Betheseda was told to quit being lazy and put em in
@@MillieBlackRose According to the national institutes of health someone with kuru will die within 1-2 years of showing symptoms. Enough time to mutate. And that's assuming wendigoes aren't ghouls who got kuru and mutated further.
i had no idea that it was possible to get house to sign off on wiping out of the casinos.... andale freaked me out when i first saw it, the people were weird and i dont think i actually found out the truth behind it till a few visits later doing other stuff i would have to agree with you that the white gloves are the "best" even though the quest can be buggy its still pretty fun to do.
I remember staying at the bed & breakfast mountain side and it was normal when i got jumped until you go down the basement, it was very disturbing because of the body parts and bloody mess all over the room. Sadly i think either once you kill them, that basement room becomes clean and every body part and blood is removed unless Bethesda cleaned it idk
A fallout raider story based game might be cool. Showing how someone gets thrown into such a fucked situation and then turns into the worst of the worst, really could encapsulate the true struggle of the Wasteland in a more morbid way
I might be wrong about this but I think the 76 bed and breakfast might be a reference to the landlady as both are safe seeming bed and breakfastes that charge very low give free stuff and have evil intentions
Last time I played 76 I saw the hotel and that there where people inside so I thought I was gonna get a good rest in a room and then when I go to lay down instantly the cannibals start talking about eating you yes I tried to off the chick behind the counter even tho she said she was forced to do it😂
Are the White Gloves original tribe name mentioned? I sorta believe that 76 decided that the surviving Gourmands left, some made it to New Vegas, and eventually became the White Gloves
Ok I have some issues with The Family. Ein only became like them after a head injury showing The Family may just share a mental issue. I'd like to know if it is a true mental issue or a mutation. Either way The Family could very easily target raiders and slavers so as not to kill innocent people.
If the DLC contents are included, New Vegas had the various tribes that were cannibals. Then there are the Fiends that reference not only eating people, they terrorize people by eating them in front of each other. Honorable mention, New Vegas took it a step further with the Dog/God quest line and the fog people... That's nasty... Fallout 4 Had the far Harbor cannibal that was part of a settlement. The raiders at Nuka World are also cannibals. I'd argue the institute counts because they kidnap people for terrible experiments including harvesting gene material. They are consuming people in a different matter, but still consuming them nonetheless. Fallout 4 also had the meat packing plant with the ghouls in the food. Even though ghouls are abhuman, they are still people. That's nasty... Just a few missed...
Huzzah second comment. Is there enough info to do a kellog video? Like how long has he been kicking around the wasteland? Also in response to your laser weapon way back, granted it's not stated but they may have run into production limitations and had to balance as, best they could, cost effectiveness and damage output for thier grunts so they weren't spending even more resources on lower level assets.
When I was playing 76, I got into the mine and while waiting there to jump into the shaft everyone started breaking out power armor and I had missed the memo
With all the laundry detergent around in fallout I’m surprised no one has started eating it to get an affect. My local jail had a problem with people smoking paper with raid or similar insecticides on it so I could see desperate people trying to use soap.
In Fallout 4 it is implied that the pack raiders from nuka world are cannibals since you can find "strange jerky" in their base
Also Gauge the raider companion doesn't react negatively to the player being a cannibal so he's likely been around others before.
The "strange jerky" is also affected and boosted in effectiveness by the cannibal perk unless I'm mistaken, which confirms this.
They all are. Have you seen Nisha's cave?
@@GaijinNomad787 where's that cave
@@DonMagixx they mean the Disciples hq inside fizztop
Two clowns are eating a cannibal...
One turns to the other and says, "I think we got this joke wrong."
The cannibal says: "Eeeeeaaaargh..."
free food
Goteem
This joke was just really nice and wholesome
Thank you
I don’t get it.
Man, when even the raiders think you are too evil to live, you are on another level.
Raiders have standards
@@bluecarton43there villains not evil
@@bluecarton43 Yeah, you enslave children, not eat them. Quite the lofty standards.
@@bluecarton43 Professionals have standards
When you got me siding with slavers over you, ya dun F'ed up.
There's a guy in Far Harbor, at Echo Lake Lumber Mill, who openly admits to being a cannibal. He even carries a unique shredder.
Brings a new meaning to wanting five guys
to some extent, it's an old meaning to wanting five guys
There is a gay joke in there somewhere....kinda like the movie "A Few Good Men". 😂😂
Now I can think of 3 different ways of wanting 5 guys
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I'd let five guys eat me 😏
I think a good honorable mention to all of this human hunger is how in fallout 4, there’s the Longneck cannery. That place is run by a dude who put ghoul meat into the food and causes a bunch of people to get sick
Are ghouls really human though? Plus Theo (I think is is name) doesn't seem to Eat it himself, just pawn it off for money.
@@kingofhearts3185I'd consider Ghouls a subspecies at this point.
@@TattleDelta enough for it to be cannibalism? Serious question.
@@kingofhearts3185 Not imo.
@@kingofhearts3185 My thinking tends to be that cannibalism isn't really a an act defined by biology, it's mainly about how you treat categories of beings that have or are associated with personhood, differently from you treat things we don't consider people. A ghoul is at the end of the day just a very changed human, and there's not that much fundamental biological distinction between a sapient ghoul with a clear humanity, and a non-sentient ghoul.
For the record, I also think the idea of eating sapient beings even of completely unrelated species to us, to be almost morally the same as human cannibalism. I honesty get grossed out by the thought of people eating whales or apes in a way that is at least comparable to the thought of eating people.
I mean, it's a cruel world, so it's not like I think you have to be crazy to do anything like that, if there's a need for it, but to the extent that we really wanna create some sort of really noble society, I do think we should create a norm of not instrumentalizing the bodies of sapient beings, and probably eventually moving away from eating sentient being as well.
No mention of the Marked Men in the Divide?
They've got a meat processing facility set up in the basement of one of the surviving buildings, full of human skeletons and gore.
How many people go to the divide?
How many people just want the divide dlc to be over
@@vexile1239That isn't the best dlc, but i like it. One of the toughiest enemies in the game, some nice location, and you know, tons of good loot
@@komiks42 Way, way better than the idiocy that was... wow, forgot the name of it. The one with the casino.
Now if they ate each other then yes I think they would be considered cannibalistic.
When you ask Bob for some Iguana Bits after you confront him, he says something like that: "You what that they are made of and you still want one?! You make Decker look like a kid" . That pretty much confirms, that Bob is not himself a cannibal.
As someone from Appalachia (specifically Western PA if you care lol) there are legends of folk in the mountains who lost their mind and went cannibalistic, some people believe they are responsible for folks that go missing along the Appalachian trail, and then also the Algonquin legend of the Windigo
Do people often dissappear on the trail? I'd love to hike in the US but as a European, im worried about your local wildlife being a higher weightclass than back here lol
i'm from the SW Virginia part of Appalachia, the freakshow stories exist for a reason
@Svoorhout85 I’m also from eastern PA like OP. If you decide to hike the Appalachia, never ever ever hike alone. Never give out your real name either. And always stay armed, most critters won’t bother you but you never know. Mountain lions are mostly wiped out here, but still they can rarely be seen.
Sounds like its Mostly Harmless
@@Svoorhout85 wildlife can be a threat, that's why I would carry a hunting rifle or shotgun while hiking just in case a critter wanting to make you it's meal approaches
Edit: something I forgot to mention, yes people go missing among trails, national parks and forest all the time all throughout the US and Canada which birthed the missing persons profile 'Missing 411' which is more of the supernatural side of missing persons, but not always supernatural
I love how much they leaned into the cannibalism idea in 76. Even though it fell short in many ways, 76 had some really awesome ideas
I submitted to Bethesda the idea of adding Strange Meat and recipes using said meat. Also adding more gore-related decorations like the hanging meat bags, blood decals, those meat-shopping carts, Gourmand faction flags. It'd be nice if the Gourmands could return as a joinable faction.
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Though my meal was a hot steaming turd, I feel that the idea of a good meal was there.
Fallout 76 is 100% better than 4.
I think we should mention hillarious way of roleplaying as aspiring cannibal in Fallout: New Vegas to get the perk "Meat of Champions". There's something special in eating King, Caesar, Kimball, House (and probably all other leaders if you feel like it) to show everyone that you're the apex predator of Mojave.
Look, if i dude that managed to get to the leaders of the strongest faction in the word (at least to your knowlage), kill them, eat them, and survived, i wouod be freaked out too.
The effects of that perk seem a bit unclear to me.
When I first heard about it, I assumed that the timed bonuses you get are applied when you eat that leader.
I then realised that that's a pretty worthless perk and that you probably get the timed bonuses from all cannibilisation after you eat the leaders.
The thing is, it's a Bethesda published game using their engine, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was the former. Can anyone confirm if it's the former or the latter?
@@theonlybilge You have to eat the leaders to unlock it and after that eating any human triggers it. Not very practical, but fun as hell.
Interesting that you didn't included the Trapper at the Far Habor sawmill
To be fair we’ve never seen radking and the trapper in the same room
@@x2jzdave668😮 how did we not see it before.
It would be super cool if when you have the Cannibal perk, you could pull a special unarmed attack where you could pull a Mike Tyson on anyone. If they are part of a group, there is a chance to make them flee.
I thought this too! I'd love if they added the feral ghoul finishing attack where they lunge at the player and bit their throat.
@@North_Points_Uppretty sure that's already q thing in the last couple games
@@insomniagobrrr5542 No, we mean for the player to perform when they have the cannibal perk.
@@North_Points_Up misread your reply and thought it was off-topic
That's in fallout already I think
Interesting thing is that in Andale Jack mentions that someone said that someone has a kid and family in Rivet city, and the only known fatherless family there is Hargrave family. So here something to think about.
They ate the kids dad 😨
Really f up dude
It's just as likely that said family is just *implied* to exist, because:
It's Bothosdo;
The engine used in Fallout 3 was 11 years old at the time of release;
Basically the only time they used it to its full effectiveness was in Morrowind;
And said engine clearly has issues with the number of entities that can exist.
Why are cannibals always grumpy?
Because they are fed up with people!
I mean how can we not talk about Cannibal Johnson?
Even if he only ate the one fresh, raw human heart that is still enough to count as having eating a fresh, raw human heart.
I know right? It's right in the name!
It's actually not clear if he ate it. He says he "bit" the heart, which means he might have spit after that.
@@AgusSkywalker depending if you really want to get harsh on the definitions, or go the route of the ancients, that even having the flesh in your mouth could count as cannibalism
@somepennsyltuckyin9353 I like to think that it's a gross mutilation of a corpse. I mean all he did was rip open a heart, just yano with his teeth instead of hands
@@MsHarpsychord fair
I like how the wendigos include aspects of both the greed and cannibalism from their folklore origins
Also like how some of their mental decline gives the appearance of a mutated prion disease
I figured it was radiation that made the wendigos but the idea of prion disease assuming human neural tissue is consumed would make sense as a contributing factor in the transformation
@@simplyaregularguy131 yeah, they still seem like ghouls in many ways but just with something extra
@@ryanbusch2885 considering they fight alongside ferals whenever present it wouldn't surprise me if they were considered an offshoot in the fallout canon
its strange for some reason i never considered the vampires as cannibals. i guess i was just too focused on the vampire thing that i forgot that blood is a part of the human body
Vampires are just canibals on liquid only diet
Do you mean "The Family"? Cuz when i met them i was doing a full evil playthrough and made them looks like civilized citizens. I had cannabilsm and the bloody mess perk. Ended up turning them into chilli with a shotgun by accident and then ate em all. That was a crazy run
Those are just mentally unstable people who read a comic with a vampire lol
@@TheReZisTLust They do teach you a perk that does increase the effectiveness of blood packs. So they're not completely crazy to be fair.
The Family learned to satisfy their craving by drinking blood packs instead of eating people.
I’m sorry, but the Scoot-wendigo carrying “loose screws” is the funniest thing I’ve seen all day. Please tell me more of these characters have this inventory joke!
I know me and many others speculate that Wendigos may be a very specialized and exceptionally mutated version of ghouls. They act like ferals, live with ferals, and share many similarities. Plus the Wendigo Colossus was likely heavily inspired by the Beanpole Ghoul.
I think you’re right! Maybe something about cannibalism changes the trajectory of the transformation slightly.
Also I think you might mean the Maypole Ghoul.
@@calisatrexnah beanpole ghoul is funnier, new canon name
Although not really cannibalism I think Little Lamplight deserved an “honorable” mention, albeit they didn’t know what strange meat is.
Honorable mention to all the protagonists that can become cannibals as well, as they can do anything from just have a quick snack, to take parts from people's bodies to save for later, to even being able to eat Ghouls and Super Mutants as well.
The Marked Men in the Divide are implied to eat people as well. There's a basement with human remains and cooking implements.
Maybe there is a specific gene that allows people to become wendigos. That could explain why they can only be found in Appalachia in fallout 76 because the people there all have similar ancestry that carries the gene.
I always thought it was a combo of FEV, mad cow disease, and the radiation. It's definitely something I hope is explained at some point cause it is kinda weird that it was only in Appalachia.
I think the wendigoes are some kind of offshoot of ghoul caused by excessive cannibalism and radiation. They're supposed to be beings with unending hunger yet they are often shown working with packs of ferals. You know how sentient ghouls are ignored by ferals? I think its the same thing here, they somehow recognize the wendigo as one of their own.
That is possible. A secondary factor could be the unique toxins in Appalachia
@@claytopolis Well that is what I mean not everyone has what it takes to become a ghoul and not everyone has what it takes to be a wendigo. So because they can only be found in Appalachia it is some genetic quirk only in that region that allows for it.
I always assumed it was basically just a super ghoul, maybe consuming flesh while becoming a ghoul or even consuming the flesh of a ghoul or someone with a ghoul gene fucks you up more than just becoming a ghoul, clearly there is a connection between ghouls and wendigo
I went fishing once, and no one called me a fisherman...
I went hunting once, and no one called me a hunter...
Oh, but let me eat just 1 neighbor...?!
Roll tide killed me haha. I did not expect that. Love the content!
For people wandering why there aren't any wendigos on any other places other than Appalachia, i might have found a quick theory.
So wendigos are only in west virginia because they're basically humans who resorted to extreme cannibalism AND ghoulification, it's noticed on how they're immune to rads, able have a glowing version and are usually found with hordes of feral ghouls, also there are wendigo colossus who were doing extreme amounts of cannibalism like Earl and got irridiated by the mining equipment, so I think wendigos are born out of a severe length of cannibalism and the ghoulification mutating with each other, turning them into these. Or it could aswell be some ancient curse like the old virginia legends or like the Dunwich stuff.
Actually wendigo colossus happens because many wendigos were fused because of extreme and sudden radiation spikes aka nukes hence why they can only be found in nuked zones
@@Ashley-xn1mz I mean, it's what i said but with an even bigger source of rads i guess? ^^"
Edit : Also kinda like the rat king effect.
@@DeonTheDragonOOHHH! I never thought of it that way! That’s actually a really interesting concept!
I thought it was mostly because there called wendigos due to the amount of wendigo folklore that comes from mountains(Appalachia) and the north where there's very harsh winters. I mean it would be understandable their not Super-mutants there Wendigos in the folks eyes.(Im not meaning to sound rude just curious)
30:32 The “Roll Tide” got me lol
The subtle Roll Tide had me rolling myself on the Andale bit lol Very nice.
I lost it at "roll tide" 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Been bringing your content for a bit now, keep up the great work. All hail atom, bask in his mighty glow brother.
Regarding Arefu, I actually always figured the "deal" you broker involves the people of Arefu donating blood to consume, not just searching for old blood packs. But I guess it's never actually stated either way.
That damn 'rolltide' whisper during the andale section nearly made me choke on my hot dog
You can't do that shit to me, I was not expecting that at all
Missed opportunity to name the title "Meat the cannibles of Fallout"
Glad to see that Wendigo on the thumbnail, I was hoping to hear about 76's Trappers
a lot of stuff in fallout 3, such as the blood packs, are pretty handily explained by the fact that it was originally meant to take place around 20ish years after the great war, not 200, and it was changed rather late in production
My man hit us with the "roll tide" after incestuous. I died.
Sad fact: the residents of Andale probably ate James Hargave's (the angry kid in Rivet City) father.
There is a random encounter in 76 where blood eagles call super mutant meat "close enough" to human meat
Stepping into the Andale basement felt like it was taken right out of The Road by Cormac McCarthy.
13:06 that is the most psychopathic smile I've ever seen
Andale is my favorite I also always forget where it's at so finding it on a playthrough is nice and talking philipe into a existential crisis is also awesome
I think it is kind of incorrect to say that no groups are stated to be cannibals in Fo4, the super mutant are quite explicitly depicted as cannibals, e.g. the “decorations” in their locations and occasional human bones found in their loots.
Strong has dialogue about which parts are the best and to be careful about fingers and toes getting stuck in the teeth.
There's also Malcom in Far Harbor with the hunger for "talking meat"
@@MediumRareOpinions True
yes but cannibalism refers to eating members of your own species. in my mind super mutants are no longer human. they dont even see themselves that way
forgot about that lol, but the human-eating super mutant is the closest to cannibals we have in fo4, i guess. As the mutants are “transformed” human.
@@milkbaologist5610 yes. unless you wanna count me going around eating people with the cannibal perk
Now that I’ve actually given Fallout 76 a chance (really good. Now, not even a year ago, but right now it’s finally in a playable state), and learned more about Wendigoes, it gives me more evidence to my speculation about what’s really going on with ‘Ghoulification’
What do Wendigoes have in common with Ghouls? Pretty much everything (perhaps Wendigoes don’t live as long, it remains to be seen until we get another Fallout game that features them), EXCEPT, ghouls are caused by Radiation, and Wendigoes by Cannabilism.
And yet... it doesn’t really answer anything. Why do they transform so completely, and seemingly so common, as opposed to both circumstances just killing them like any human?
The answer might not be based in logic and science, but something more... cosmic... darker... supernatural.
If you’re familiar with Dark Souls lore, perhaps these aren’t transformations at all, maybe Ghouls and Wendigoes are *reversions* . A return to what all humans harbor deep within, our true origins, and maybe even... creators.
Also far harbor little small Bertha quest leads to clear a camp. Also has a guy offer you caps to turn in settlers to him for meat.
"Whats for dinner tonight?"
"Mike Donald."
"Oh, you mean McDonald's?"
"... Sure. You want barbecue sauce or ketchup with your McArm?"
But Radking, what better way to know Atom's glow than to consume that which he touched? We must sustain our bodies the same way his holy reaction was sustained, through the consumption of the self and others!
Dude, screw wendigos! They're the reason I never explored half the damn map cause I'm always afraid they'll be in a f***ing tree and jump me.
They creep me out more than any other creature in the Fallout series, hands down.
Completely understandable. That actually happened to me when I puttered around Mire once, caught sight of it as it jumped down from a tree right next to me as I was running past and it scared the life out of me. That bit of PTSD always creeps up whenever I wander around there now. D:
Similar thing happened to me walking around in the savage divide one just jumped out of a tree and that is why my base is in the ash heap
I saw the mothman my first time after wandering a random direction, it just stared from behind a tree then phased away. Spookiest iv ever seen in FO games
If you choose to help Mortimer but bring him a different person than Ted to butcher, I seem to remember you can even choose to sacrifice one of your own companions, right? I'd call that the most evil route to finish this quest.
"Sacrifice one of your human companions by going to the kitchen and locking them in the freezer. This will end the quest. Note: you will lose anything they are carrying."
Indeed
All of the Wendigos in Fallout 76 used to be cannibals.
love the Arefu vampires! wish they (or similar) were used more in other games
Even if it's a one-off interaction or unmarked quest, I would love it.
Meet a Family member out in the wastes or bar somewhere. He asks for help with caps/supplies, saying he's trying to get back to his "Family" in Arefu.
Arefu is a commune in Romania btw :)
@@lilith5865 that's a super cool reference. Thanks.
I wasn't ready for that little Roll Tide 😂😂😂
The little "roll Tide" jab...Love it.
"No we're not talking about Tide-Pods." caught me of guard.
Your upload schedule is absolutely insane and I love it.
Hyped to learn about the the cannonballs of fallout
Who doesn't love a good cannonball.
@@MillieBlackRose Captain Ironside would certainly approve
I didnt expect a ranking but 10/10. I like the Family but I have a big vampire bias. I think Doc Morbid is pretty interesting too
I'm suprised you never mentioned that the restaurant the white gloves operate is called the gourmand. it makes me wonder if there's some connection to the gourmands in 76.
I assumed they were and over time cannibalism wasn't as necessary to survive but was also not frowned upon and still done when fighting with other tribes. Since it wasn't necessary to survive it was easier to turn away from that lifestyle.
@@MillieBlackRose but if we're to assume the gourmands and white gloves come from the same group. how and when did they travel all the way to the Mojave?
In FO4 if you’re playing in survival and have the cannibal perk you’ll develop a “dark craving” where it acts like an addiction. Your hunger meter can only be filled by eating people, you still benefit from other food for hp and buffs but your hunger is only satisfied by cannibalism
9:00 I think it should be noted that the Vault 22 survivors were likely influenced or sick or infected at that time and were going mad (mentions of coughing fits). I think their cannibalism was directly a result of all the biological horror that happened in their vault. Even Randall seems extremely shocked that the "jumpsuit people" actually ate their prisoners.
30:26 "Roll Tide"
IM DEAD
Me: *Clicking on Patreon...*
Rad: If you aren't a cannibal...
Me: Awwww.
You forgot about
The Pack
The Fiends
Trappers
East Coast Super Mutants (formerly human, therefore cannibalism)
19:22 Was not expecting a jumpscare 😂
In Fallout 4 after you clear out echo lake lumber yard in far harbor there is this one guy that can make a deal with you that really sounds like you'll send settlers there for him to loot and eat
Jack Smith. At 38:33 says something pretty damn critical/sus gut from that on it's a telling in what goes where
Greetings Radking, thank you for all this wondrous content.
The vault 22 dwellers might of been influenced by the pesticide it just doesn’t make sense for them to be cannibals switch how Zion has wild life and lots if plant life
In fairness, Zion was still recovering, so plant and animal life wouldn't be as abundant as it is during FNV just yet. It's possible they had no idea if the plants were poisonous or not too, but this is just speculation on my part.
You forgot the one specific Trapper from Far Harbor that offers you a deal where you send people to a village and he implies he will hunt and eat them. Malcolm
Thank you radking for making these videos for us!
Man I never played 76 but I remembered it dropping with no npcs so I was so confused when he was mentioning npcs from the game, looks like Betheseda was told to quit being lazy and put em in
Hey I am a big fallout fan and I am enjoying your videos so far and I am new to your videos and keep up the good work
I wonder what the level of kuru is among the cannibals of the Wasteland?
Must have been an outbreak in Appalachia, explains how wendigoes are different than ghouls.
I can see why such a thing would change their mutation but Kuru is fatal.
@@MillieBlackRose According to the national institutes of health someone with kuru will die within 1-2 years of showing symptoms. Enough time to mutate. And that's assuming wendigoes aren't ghouls who got kuru and mutated further.
i had no idea that it was possible to get house to sign off on wiping out of the casinos....
andale freaked me out when i first saw it, the people were weird and i dont think i actually found out the truth behind it till a few visits later doing other stuff
i would have to agree with you that the white gloves are the "best" even though the quest can be buggy its still pretty fun to do.
I remember staying at the bed & breakfast mountain side and it was normal when i got jumped until you go down the basement, it was very disturbing because of the body parts and bloody mess all over the room. Sadly i think either once you kill them, that basement room becomes clean and every body part and blood is removed unless Bethesda cleaned it idk
A fallout raider story based game might be cool. Showing how someone gets thrown into such a fucked situation and then turns into the worst of the worst, really could encapsulate the true struggle of the Wasteland in a more morbid way
I mean the sole survivor did basically that tho lol. Your description is awful close to the story of the sole survivor after/ during nuka world
@@abrahamwashington8579 yawn
I might be wrong about this but I think the 76 bed and breakfast might be a reference to the landlady as both are safe seeming bed and breakfastes that charge very low give free stuff and have evil intentions
I just got done killing the people in Andale in my playthrough lol, perfect timing
The best part of the White Glove Society is Mr House's reaction to them turning back to Cannibalism. He wasn't mad... just disappointed.
Most disturbing part of the White Glove Society is that their contract CLEARLY states: no consuming human flesh.
So uncivilized.
So ghoul and supermutant are good to eat huh
@@komiks42 Ghouls are humans. Super mutants though are an interesting question as to whether they are genetically distinct enough.
I read "cannibals" as "cannabis" and it made me chuckle
So did I
Damn, Morris is actually kinda sad, that brief moment of sanity and mourning in the holotape is really good
That is so funny, i was going to make a joke about how realistic it is to have cannibals in appalachia but u already made it for me.
My #1 is the player character, since you can choose to be a cannibal during your playthrough. ...Not that I ever take that perk! Nope, not me!
Can I Eat You 🍽️
Last time I played 76 I saw the hotel and that there where people inside so I thought I was gonna get a good rest in a room and then when I go to lay down instantly the cannibals start talking about eating you yes I tried to off the chick behind the counter even tho she said she was forced to do it😂
Are the White Gloves original tribe name mentioned? I sorta believe that 76 decided that the surviving Gourmands left, some made it to New Vegas, and eventually became the White Gloves
Ya I could belive that.
Isnt there a guy in fo4 far harbor at one of the settlements that you can agree to feed settlers to?
Also does eating ghouls count, because there's that meat packing plant that is feeding people ghoul meat in fo4
Thank you for another banger RadDaddy
Ok I have some issues with The Family. Ein only became like them after a head injury showing The Family may just share a mental issue. I'd like to know if it is a true mental issue or a mutation. Either way The Family could very easily target raiders and slavers so as not to kill innocent people.
This is why I subscribed, it was even better the 2nd time
If the DLC contents are included, New Vegas had the various tribes that were cannibals. Then there are the Fiends that reference not only eating people, they terrorize people by eating them in front of each other. Honorable mention, New Vegas took it a step further with the Dog/God quest line and the fog people... That's nasty...
Fallout 4 Had the far Harbor cannibal that was part of a settlement. The raiders at Nuka World are also cannibals. I'd argue the institute counts because they kidnap people for terrible experiments including harvesting gene material. They are consuming people in a different matter, but still consuming them nonetheless.
Fallout 4 also had the meat packing plant with the ghouls in the food. Even though ghouls are abhuman, they are still people. That's nasty...
Just a few missed...
Huzzah second comment. Is there enough info to do a kellog video? Like how long has he been kicking around the wasteland? Also in response to your laser weapon way back, granted it's not stated but they may have run into production limitations and had to balance as, best they could, cost effectiveness and damage output for thier grunts so they weren't spending even more resources on lower level assets.
There is the guy named Malcolm at the Echo Lake Lumber Mill in Far Harbor who openly admits to being a cannibal.
Cooper Howard: "Ass jerky don't make itself."🔪🥓
Isn't Cook-Cook a cannibal too? Besides being killer, torturer, zoophile, sodomite and rapist. What a lovely fella he is.
When I was playing 76, I got into the mine and while waiting there to jump into the shaft everyone started breaking out power armor and I had missed the memo
The intro is great, mate!
Glad to wake up and watch another RadKing video
Ah Andale.... Been ages since I played Fallout 3, but this place really stuck in my mind, thanks for bringing it up
With all the laundry detergent around in fallout I’m surprised no one has started eating it to get an affect. My local jail had a problem with people smoking paper with raid or similar insecticides on it so I could see desperate people trying to use soap.
Cannibalism in the series is all a Bethesda addition, which makes me consider just how safe I would feel in a room with Todd Howard, really.