NO men want anything to do with you if you're unnatracive. Stop coping. Typical of women with bruised egos to turn down good looking guys even if she's ugly, just to inflate their already deflated ego.
Ironic that this actually supports their point that attraction for men and women is different, therefore both are different and should be treated differently
@@mindblowinglyrics55 that doesn’t really challenge anything I said. Whether what Kyle did was a ploy or not, he still did it. So why is he not being critiqued for being emotional? And if Kyle’s reaction was a ploy, wasn’t Jackie’s? And if the answer to that is yes, then I’ll ask again, why weren’t they BOTH called out for being emotional then?
@@benjaminf.1492 The comment section is the fresh and fit subscribers so you can't really expect anything else from them,lol..They young mouldable minds who hasn't really lived yet but they talk about the modern women,lol..I'm guessing Its young guys in their twenties who go by appearance of a man's credibility on being in a fake relationship where he pays for a woman over just having a likeable personality where she just wants to be with you.
Why get into a relationship with someone who wants to be monogamous? if you want to sleep around that’s perfectly fine, just do it single. I don’t fucking understand, staying single is the most logical and obvious choice?? I’m single for this very reason! I love sex with multiple different people.
@@alexandrapetersen8582 I don't think he's advocating cheating, IIRC he's advocating a relationship that's open on one end (for the man) and with the terms laid out clearly in the beginning. Because he thinks that women would rather share a top 1% high-value rich/hot/successful man than have a mediocre man to themselves. I do disagree with his double standard about how men cheating doesn't count though, like actual cheating behind the woman's back.
@@jjw3046 My boyfriend is in no way rich and hes a pretty normal guy but I would take him over any guy in the entire world. I think its shallow to assume women would take a rich guy over any other guy. Like yeah some girls r just straight up gold diggers and want money but most of us dont and just want happiness.
If women say posting sexy instagram photos isn't cheating, then why do women get so upset at men that look at other women on instagram? Can I get a Don DiMarco!!!
hes a degenerate along with his radio show, i dont even listen to them but i was on an uber once and they were on the radio, they were literally talking about how cheating was fine as long as you get away with it
@@CalikoTube that’s not a point proven. Some women may not even know who he is and if he’s sleeping around. There are also a lot of women and assume the same of all and what all women want. He’s controlling, narcissistic, and needs to get his trauma in check.
That's different. Because there's relationship attraction and there's sexual attraction. Most women keep conflating the two like there the same. Just because is sleeping with u. Doesn't mean he's ready to commit to u.
@@JizzyRizzy89 but see if a woman were to do that, just yk sleep around and not be ready to commit to anyone, we'd pretty much be shamed and called a hoe for every little thing. yes those two are very much different but someone could end up hurt because of their sexual attraction. it's different when you act upon it and you stay loyal. If the man is allowed to basically go out and cheat, then the woman can be allowed to post a picture of themselves even if it is "sexy" because they are not acting on any sexual tendencies. women can not control what men do, and it ain her fault that they found her attractive and decided to hit her up
@@sikeyouthought8729 well take a look at all the pornostars and cheaters on TV. Onlyfans girl strippers, escort. There being called hoes. Why is it women whose in the industry and the rest for what I named out get it. Why do they understand the male nature but wen it comes to goody two shoes they don't know. The world is not a fantasy. U have to live in reality. Men could fyck other women and still be in love with there woman. Women can't. U ain't fyckin another dude if u love your man. Men and women are very different. Ur not hardwire like men to have sex with alot of woman. Men could do it. Women can't. This is the way. God has made us. Hell even my pastor told me. A mans penis has no conscious. That's why we do it. And get this. Sexual attraction and relationship attraction is two different things. U could have sex with a guy with no title. A man's loyalty is not fidelity. His loyalty. Is protecting u, providing for u and willing to die for u. A woman's loyalty is one thing. Is to not sleep with no men. Were different every step we take on this. Through cheating, loyalty, relationships, casual dating, and even marriages. It's all different. And to answer your question on the dms from Instagram . Here's my thoughts on it. Why even have it and u kno your gonna get attention. That's like wearing booty shorts with your azz hanging out and u kno guys gon holla at u wen u wear that. When u walk down the street. Why not midigate it?
1% of guys can enact on that and that’s how it’s been since the beginning of times!. Kings, sultans , generals and so on and those guys aren’t changing anytime soon to appease your fragile ego.
Most women will not sleep with other men when they’re emotionally attached to their man. If they do sleep with other men, then the relationship is over. A small minority of women can sleep with other men with little to no emotional attachment but clearly these women are a minority exception and not the rule.
If you are a women of course you wouldn't understand. Men can have sex without emotional investment. It's like taking a piss. Women would admit that men HAVE TO meet higher expectations when it comes to sex. Understand?🤷
@@byrneluke Agree'd but it wasn't his show. The best thing they could have done is say "If yall keep interrupting I'm just going to leave the show" and cut the camera off just like old man winter did them. He's used to talking to people like that on HIS show where he has the power.
Should relationship be build with trust? If me, as guy, explore other options, I would feel guilty for cheating on my girlfriend. Why did you enter a relationship in the first place, if you’re just going to cheat on your woman?
@@latrellagujitas9835 its not advertising if no one is gonna buy it nigga. and like every single guy who ever went to the gym says " i got more compliments from guys on my physique than women"
Yes it is cheating, but women are only attracted to men that have options available to them. If you're a committed monogamous guy she'll eventually lose interest.
@@jimmcnicholas9670 if she loses interest she won't tell you to your face. I recommend checking her phone / social media to see what she says about you behind your back.
Why is he speaking on attractive men and their options when he is NOT attractive!!! The only way he will have options is with his podcast money! Don't confuse that with attraction babe.
If men want quantity, and women want quality... Then he made his own argument with the attention scale on social media. Men message 30 women, women message 10, of course the ratio is off. Imagine being ignorantly intelligent.
He actually undersold the reality. The average guy gets zero dms and prob 1-2 girls that he meets through social circles that are interested in him every year (if he’s lucky). The average girl has sexual abundance of options on steroids. Her dms are full and she gets d@ck thrown at her everyday. She walks into a nightclub and every guy (average-to-attractive) hits on her. The average girl has more options than a good looking guy that has money. And when the average women messages a guy it’s a 0.0001% man and/or she swipes right 1/50 times. That’s the reality. Women have an abundance of options, they are very picky. And men have almost no options and can’t be picky. The majority of men are invisible to the majority of women.
The main reason why they think it's cheating for a woman but not a man, is because they don't think men are capable of cheating. Period. Even if he's in a relationship and he goes after other women for sex, that's not cheating. According to them, cheating is only something a woman can do. When a man does it, it's called "exercising his options". So that's the foundation he's working on. Not only that, he lives in a world where there are no women except for the women who post near naked photos of themselves. It's not possible for him to imagine a woman on Instagram who wants to use it for anything else but thirst traps. Other women are not real.
Maybe most married women don't have thirst trap instagrams. That could be true as well. Honestly this is a Millenial and Gen Z issue. Boomers and Gen X would never think of posting what it the norm in today's day and age.
When women post selfies of themselves on social media (no matter how sexual it is) they are seeking validation from others. They are 'exercising their options' as you put it. They are hoping for likes and messages from guys. There are very few millennial women who don't post attention seeking selfies on social media, so it's easy to understand where he's coming from.
@@Marc_Lambert but there is a generational difference that needs to be emphasized here. GenX would never post the intimate sexy things that are posted by Millenials and Gen Z's. I think what they should have done is show the actual IG's by the girls vs what the guys IGs look like. There are stark contrasts.
@@Marc_Lambert But how do you know how many women aren’t posting attention seeking selfies if they are purposefully flying under your radar? I’m a woman who doesn’t post attention seeking selfies and every woman I know personally and the women I follow are similar to me (using Instagram for memories, sharing art/beauty/learning, etc often for a community of OTHER WOMEN with similar interests). Because these are my circles, the women who do use Instagram for thirst traps seem like the minority (not that they are rare but that they are a small fraction of the entire female population on Instagram). Unless there are stats pulling this info from Instagram (of ALL female users, what percentage post sexy/revealing pictures with the intent of getting attention from men), we can’t really know. Could it be possible the same confirmation bias is happening on your end? Maybe when you spend a lot of time looking at thirst traps on Instagram…you get the sense that there are a lot of women posting thirst traps on Instagram. You see what you are looking for.
@@WeCoachMentalHealth Yes, I agree. Older generations grew up with religion instilled into them from an early age, so they have a different mindset to today's youth.
Fr! Imagine doing an interview with some one and being too pussy and soft to finish the show because your grown feelings got in the way?! Imagine being so lame you rage quit like a little girl!!!
This man literally said “closed on your end and opened on my end” There’s no reasonable justification for it, the only justification offered was “well if I’m in a relationship then you shouldn’t have an IG and show your body. Because other people looking at you causes me to feel like you’re inviting men to seek sexual favors from you.” That’s not logical. That’s insecurity. Unless she is actively trying to sleep with other men, by messaging them and making arrangements, that’s not cheating. Posting photos does not equate to cheating. So if a woman is at the beach with friends she couldn’t ever post photos of her day, because that’s disrespectful? Men will do what men will do. A woman could wear a turtleneck sweater and still be hit on by men. Men will throw their shot at almost anything. And sadly it’s ALWAYS the woman who is minding her own business fault for another stranger’s thoughts. Honestly, men, this is tragic. Here’s what I agree on, if you are in a relationship you should respect that commitment, but that goes BOTH ways. It shouldn’t be closed for women and OPENED to men. That’s just ridiculous. Do for your partner what you would want done for you. The golden rule. It’s simple. And the number of followers someone has doesn’t mean shit. I know of a man who dresses up as a woman and does skits who has more followers than F&F. So what does that mean? I know of several dogs and cats who have more followers than F&F and are over the 1mil mark...so what does that mean? Nothing. All it means is that people find the F&F channel entertaining. F&F has a Maury Povich vibe. Occasionally Maury would have some shows of substance but the majority of people tune it because they like to see the baby daddy drama and make fun of women who don’t know who the father of their kids are ..same with F&F the majority of the viewers like to make fun of women, the comments reflect this. All their numbers means is that there are several broken men in the world who are in need of serious therapy and healing.
He’s no simp, he’s just usedto dominating conversations and got annoyed when Myron kept saying let me finish. He also knows teenaged girls and young women are their biggest audience and likes good ratings.
I think the casual sexualization of women's bodies is another problem, and what you would consider a sexual photo may be a regular day at the beach and sharing an experience, noone cares about the attention you give them, but these guys are upset because the attention being given is one sided.
Different and Equality are not the same thing. We are physically different yes but we are all equally human who deserve equal human rights. Also, sticking your man hood in someone other than your woman is cheating no matter how many "options" you get to stick it to. It's a physical act that is way more connecting than looking at pictures or someone you will probably never meet IRL Edit: Thanks so much for all the likes and comments 😊
@@bubblewire680 you invited them to discuss their point of view and barrage them with multiple questions while they are explaining. Only to personally insult them for having a point of view that you don't agree with. Why have them on?
based on this response you will either die alone or as a single mother. No man is gonna take women who's incapable of listening seriously, you're just a pump and dump.
He continues with the emotional manipulation. Dude, if that's what "All Men" think and feel; you shouldn't be surprised when women don't want to date anymore.
They attract who they are. They are superficial self serving and lack basic emotional intelligence so that’s who they attract those type of women. They are in Miami so they believe their view is BASIC PRINCIPLE.
@@ACTFIREE I’ve watched complete and full clips. I hate looking at 10 second clips and forming an opinion. I’ve watched interviews and their views are just very one sided
The fact that he gave Kings and sultans personal lives as an example shows how out of touch and far from reality they are.. he is thinking like a stone age man where the leader of the tribe can have more than one woman the rest can't cause they don't have the same privileges .. the fact that those two have an audience show how stupid some people are.. just because they have girls on thier show doesn't mean that they understand relationships .. basically thier general msg is : get rich and successful then you can get as much chick's as you want .. like a boy living the clubbing and partying life .. pathatic tbh !
Who do you think the modern “sultans” are? They’re the top men of society the doctors,lawyers, athletes, celebrities,etc. it’s simple supply and demand, there are very few men like them and an abundant amount of woman looking for men like them.
@@remont777 exactly wtf is this man talking about relationships have never been about love its about equal exchange. A man has no obligation to be loyal to a woman who wouldn't be loyal to him if he didn't have resources
men realize they don’t have to identify with their stereotypes right? how r u speaking from personal experience yet generalizing a whole “gender” they rlly scared and hide behind that stereotype like they afraid to speak an original thought, how have they made this far in life, disrespectful as hell
Generalization is how the world works. We can't live on fantasy island. Like there's not a problem. There's an elephant in the room n it needs to be address
Exactly! Like, they say they’re helping men but they’re further perpetuating the stereotypes for men which won’t help them evolve into greater people but instead keep them ignorant. It’s the Allegory of the Cave and these “smart” men don’t see it. They’re not interested in the society growing. They’re only interested in money and spreading their mentally unstable seed which leads into a continuous cycle because their kids learn from them and it never ends. They also talk about the red pill blue pill and it’s like, y’all really don’t understand the analogy because if you did, you wouldn’t even care about these “issues” and you’d focus more on growing out of generalized personalities. Generalization is for children, not adults. And if that’s how YOU want to live for the rest of your life, being generalized before you even speak, do it but don’t say it about society because people shock me with their new discoveries every day.
there was noting wrong with what he said, he just has standards and when he lets his standard be known you find it disrespectful but at the same time you have your own standard which you expect others to respect.
I only want my hubby to look at me. There is no way i would put pics of myself half undressed. I dont think its respectful to a marriage. But Kyles guests are taking it a bit far.
Sounds like they are jealous. “Because I don’t get as much attention as you, you can’t have an Instagram”. It just sounds like they want the same attention that women are getting. If men were getting the same attention then do they still get to keep their instagrams or do they have to delete it too? Sounds childish.
Are you also the same type of woman who cries about double standards when it benefits men? Like you sleeping with a lot of guys makes you a slut but not us? How about when we get to take out shirt off in public (not that it happens a lot) but you can't. Cause I see yall get jealous of men when it doesn't benefit women as well. Are those women childish? Please keep that same energy you and the 5 people who liked your comment. I hate hypocrisy.
You need to learn to pay attention when people are speaking. He clearly says sex for men, is like attention for women. So men getting attention isn’t the same when a women gets attention.
I think the main part that's missing from this convo is CONSENT & RESPECT. People in committed relationships should understand each other's boundaries and RESPECT them. If your partner doesn't respect you or your boundaries then you shouldn't be with them, man or women. A relationship is not a dictatorship, it's a partnership. A man should respect his woman just as much as his woman should respect him, it's simple. Obviously Myron doesn't understand that concept at all which is why it results in his struggles when dealing with women and why he's single. If a woman knows her man likes variety in women or multiple sex partners and if she's okay with that then that's cool, that's not considered 'Cheating'. CHEATING is when you're being sneaky stepping out on your partner sleeping around with other women behind her back without her consent and that's where the disrespect comes into play, that's not cool. Yes men and women are biologically not the same but that does NOT give a man the right to embarrass or disrespect his woman and her boundaries just because he doesn't look at dating and sex the same way as a woman does AND have the nerve to tell her she shouldn't do to him what he's doing to her LMAO that's asinine thinking. It doesn't matter how much money or status a man/woman has, LYING & CHEATING on your partner is never okay and is the ULTIMATE disrespect in a relationship. Polyamorous relationships are okay because the main groundwork of it is CONSENT. Both partners are considered and met with respect between each other's boundaries. A woman is supposed to be your better half, not your employee, that's what dude doesn't get, he looks at women as byproducts and not actual people... it's sad honestly.
Exactly, and to me it really comes down to his ego as well. He says all of these “universal truths” about how men want loyalty etc, and yet if every woman in the world came to him and told them that they value loyalty too he still wouldn’t believe it because he has these delusional beliefs (100% ego based, not biology) that women value strength over loyalty. Honestly this is hard to watch, the way he refuses to have a conversation and feels entitled to these big “let me put it this way” spiels without any sort of pushback is honestly disgusting. Entitlement and ego, yuck.
these guys are dating multiple women at a time. they practice what they preach and prove their points every night mon-fri. They are saying what most men are thinking, men today cant be honest with women.
@@R3dsk1n2123 Do you know what Kyle was fixing to say about Dan Bilzarian or whatever tf his name is? Dan said that despite the lavish life and parties and non commital sex with many women, he still feels lonely. He's not happy. If this is how most men feel then my God I would rather die alone. You guys have no emotional depth, you worship men to the point of blind belief and only consider women holes.
@@Contrarian-v7p this response is the reason men can’t be honest with women. Thank you for proving my point. Seek therapy and a dog, cause no man is gonna take you serious. You’re a pump and dump at best.
@@R3dsk1n2123 Your response would hurt more if you knew me and it didn't come from a man who sucks so much at living his life he needs to dickride two equally broken men whose advice is literally the laughing stock of women.
You wouldn’t expect anything else coming out of the mouth of this woman that’s for sure. What Fresh and fit are trying to do is actually help woman become more attractive. Woman these days think they’re men, they go around and sleep around like they’re men. The thing is when they’re used up no man actually wants them. They no longer become marriage material. By the time this chick here turns 30 with a notch count of 50 bodies, a high value dude will look straight past her for a younger hotter and tighter 21 year old to reproduce with.
@@OwnGrid because what men want is dangerous. Sleeping with multiple women (most likely unprotected) they can bring back hella shyt. Furthermore, when women compete for example in the harem days as Fresh points out, these women were vicious and literally killed each other for ONE man’s attention. What men want is way more dangerous.
@@EmpressKiya. you are making a tone of assumptions about how that play out, and those days are not gone and never will. Independent powerful men still do it. A lot of women would rather share a winner than lower their standards, so maybe there is something wrong with women because they enable this behavior
It does matter, because women trade up. There's a reason why 80% of divorces are initiated by women. Even cheating men remain in their relationship. For a woman to even consider cheating, it means the relationship is already over.
Why even think about how much attention one gets vs the other and bring it up. That’s a insecurity and harbored hatred. That guy is hurt by someone. He won’t even consider the amount of people who do care or think different in his stats even if it’s smaller amount it’s considered in stats because it’s PEOPLE we talking about. That amount counts too . They don’t consider the niche or grey areas
I feel like these guys try and use "evolution" and "science" to back their claims of sleeping with loads of women. The dangerous part is when they have an influence and speak for all "men" and generalize women based on "evolution". If you want to sleep with loads of women and have your preferences thats great but dont generalize all "men" like that. Some men can careless what there girlfriend post because they know they are stable in their relationship. If you dont like it because you see it a certain way then just find a girl thats fine with whatever your preference are but dont generalize and speak for all of men out there.
Great, if you take a survey of 100 men and at least 80 men will want to sleep with as many women as they can then generally most men do want that. The remaining 20 are exceptions. Definition of “generally” - in most cases; usually. in general terms; without regard to particulars or exceptions. widely
those men who are okay with their women posting bikini pics and watching dudes hit on them in their comments are cucs. Most men wants to sleep with loads of women the men who don’t are exceptions and exceptions don’t make the rule. The fact that they have fans worldwide goes to show it’s the same all around the world and that what they’re saying isn’t bullshit, they say what men want to say but can’t because you’re going to get shamed for it .
@@notghxsty8591 the fact they have fans worldwide is fucking Delores it and maddening that this ducking old ass bullshit hasn’t died off in the fucking 21st century. Still want to live like it’s the 17th fuck of with that fucking shit
Narcissists that are turned down by a potential love interest are more likely to be angry, seek retribution and are more likely to commit sexual assault. They also are more likely to objectify women as a group. When a woman posts “sexy photos” and “objectify” themselves, if a narcissistic man gets turned by a woman who posts stuff like this, he gets aggressive.
Edge the study that I’m referencing is only was tested on men with narcissistic personality traits. I’m not comparing one or the other, I’m just stating fact that is supported by studies.
When real people on real time check Myron you notice he just talks in circles and says the same thing. His points are NOT valid and when someone else makes a good point he goes to the same tired victim strategy that he always uses saying “let me finish” or attacking the other person saying they are in their “feelings”. Once you see all his tricks in action over and over again you realize his points are really trash and his whole worldview is immature childish beta bs.
Myron didn’t get to finish 99% of his points. The hosts were too busy getting triggered and not actually paying attention to what was being said. They didn’t check him at all, in fact they rage quit the whole debate. It’s pretty sad for their fan base to blindly follow them. You should try actually paying attention when people are speaking. You might learn something.
Women who doesn't respect there man post whatever they want. But women who respects there man never would post anything. How is that not VALID? And talking over people is rude. It's no manners
They knew their opinions before inviting them on the show. So rude, asking them questions and not letting them answer just because they don't like the answer. They planned this for sure, to stir the pot and gain clout because they are not as popular as they once were.
@@Mistanyycguy That FnF dunce went on and on and on with his rambling responses; clocked 2 1/2 minutes on that car analogy alone, 10% of the entire show. On top of that, he had the same damn answer to every question " 'Men and women are different.'" Over and over. That's not an attempt at debate, that's a meme. Honestly, I would've just started muting them, but that's no good for a show I imagine.
These guys are so disrespectful. Just laughing when Jackie is saying something against their views. And this stupid "all men" "let me finish" and "here is the thing" He was already done with his sentence, Jackie starts, and he is interrupting with "let me finish" - just because he does not like what she is saying. It's so funny to see how they let kyle finish his sentences....
So them calling them dickheads and clowns is ok by your stance ? They didn’t insult them once and they radio show carried out the show badly . This is like a man invited a girl on a date , not liking what she says then leaving her to foot the bill when he is the one that invited her.
@@iamjoshl on their podcast, they kept calling her a b word…so, they’re allowed to be rude but they aren’t. I watched their WHOLE podcast, they were being outright rude like Myron got so emotional and started yelling lol she must’ve struck a nerve…
If he says “Let me finish” one more time 🙄 You did finish & she started to respond and you keep finding something else to say to the 3 words she’s saying so she can’t say anything. She’s Legit not getting a word in edgewise
@@dariobalde4209 18:51, 6:47, 8:18, 8:41, 10:29 is this letting her finish? disregarding the fact that this is an argument people are allowed to interject and refute points or discuss them before proceeding
*lol* Why shouldn't the men be insecure if their main girl is attention seeking for guys to DM them? You women think you are equal (spoilers we're not) Men know they won't get the attention of women. I used to stream playing video games on Twitch. Rarely did I have more than 2 people at a time watching me. A young, cute woman stream and has hundreds to thousands of viewers. Not to mention the guys that hit on a female streamer. Also I think it wasn't explained as well, that men want the quantity is because for men sex is an act. They don't have to be attached to a woman. The woman needs the quality a.k.a. the emotional connection.
They were pretty specific about the women posting sexy pics while in a serious relationship leading to marriage and kids! It’s not about insecurities, it’s a respect thing!
Fresh and fit. Or I should say just fit because fresh don’t say anything, make way too many generalizations on what the status quo of men and women are. He sees everything through a thin veil of his own insecurities, it makes me wonder who hurt him to give him this world view.
You need generalizations to create arguments/theories. That doens't deny the existence of exceptions, in fact, exceptions being exceptions that they are, only prove that its right to generalize. If we start seeing exceptions everywhere, then there's no argument to be made because then everything deppends and its the end of the argument... like, this should be obvious, it's basic logic, we humans are generalizing almsot everything everytime, but on very specific things i guess we can't operate in logic or we'll hurt peoples fee fees, and hurting their fee fees is unaceptable these days.
@@flaclaren7682 that is true but the issue is that fit makes generalizations based upon his own interpretations even though it is not based on reality. Generalizations are good when you actually have the data to support those generalizations. Fit makes generalizations based upon his ideals and worldviews even tho he has no statistics to prove any of the points he makes. For example that would be the equivalent to if I were to say that the sky is red. I believe this and people that I associate with believe this as well. So I then stated that as fact and say that everyone believes what I do. That is a generalization true, but it is not one that is based upon provable fact.
@@myvideosetc.8271 they didn’t ask for data or numbers, they stated that F&F doesn’t have any so, what is your point? Take this energy and tell F&F to come with the data so people will be more inclined to believe what they say is true and not just made up scenarios that live under the “what-if” category.
How's is that insecure? The man is trying to protect his relationship. N how to keep the relationship going is not tolerating thot behavior. Wen u in a relationship with a high value man. U have to sacrifice.
@@JizzyRizzy89 “high value man” Lmaoo. The insecurity is thinking she is posting pics because she wants attention of man. She simply likes how she looks in a picture and posts it. If u weren’t insecure you could understand that and not be so worried about other dudes.
@@rebelchild9652 that's bs. Women don't take pics to just take pics. Na if she was a model and had to wear clothes for name brand. Or had a business. That's a different story. But taking pics to fish for a attention to get likes, comment, and dms. N if women would respect there man. They wouldn't do anything to mess up their relationship. It's not about being controlling. It's about being in control of your relationship. Letting your woman do whatever she wanna do. Is bad. Shes gonna treat that man like a puppy. N most women are unattractive by guys they could run over. She's not gonna respect him if he let it continue. Prime example look at jada pinkett. Since will let her do what she wanna do. She went into another relationship with another guy. That's wat fnf was trying to say but they kept interrupting him.
@@JizzyRizzy89 ur using ONE celebrity relationship as an example. The idea that women post pics and do everything JUST for male attention is ridiculous and stems from that insecurity im talking about. A woman can say “damn I look good today” and post a fucking picture. If ur in a relationship the “control” is trusting that your partner is loyal to you and loves you the same way you do for her. Women are not constantly trying to undermine and cheat men they are simply enjoying and loving themselves which is something you as insecure and misogynistic men don’t understand. If u break these broken ass ideas in ur head you would understand that and have a much happier and vivid romantic life
You know the sad part is the old dude was agreeing with them until the commercial break. Then, he completely changed afterwards. I think the producer or manager or whoever signs his paycheck told him to change what he was saying.
@@Dunnygirl21 don't try and spin it? The guy himself has gloated about cheating on women. There's a reason why the break they took was longer then what it was suppose to be. They were telling him that they needed to get off that interview immediately.
@@jerryc1112 yes because they were talking shit about the podcast. Kyle and Jackie were listening to what they were saying on their podcast. It sounds like you’re speculating.
Lol they shutted it up on their radio starion which literally no one cares about. Meanwhile they were continuing the stream with 10 times the amount of listeners lmao.
People really agreeing with this dude for saying that men posting those pictures is okay because women don't objectify men but its bad when its a woman posting it cuz men objectify women 💀 This dude is also entirely excluding the fact that women have feelings too claiming that men get offended easily but women arent allowed to lmao
Exactly, and people saying her feelings are in her way is because he is so disrespectful. The fact that the comments are agreeing with them upsets me so much. I feel so bad for her.
@irene luv bot Are you a fool? If what you are saying is true then men should be able to make money on onlyfans standing butt naked.... but the reality is nobody buys that crap but women are able to make millions of dollar posting feet pictures! You will understand the reason for that difference if you try to use 1 brain cell that god has gifted you with
@@AidenDavey123 Facts don't care about feelings mate. The truth is the truth regardless of how you're going to feel about it. There is a reason why many people agree with them, even right here you saw for yourself. If a majority of people weren't agreeing, there would have been no support for them.
@@ankitnagvekar9289 so how many women are you bringing home? I can tell you are not in a relationship. And if you were obviously you do not know how to cultivate a healthy relationship so it wouldn't last very long at all.
@@lastapparatus6024 What she said isn't misandry it's just dumb. Misogyny is hatred of women and she is using the word without knowing the definition. It is very common, all feelings zero logic.
@@chuntong3541 No she got it right. It’s misogyny. I’ve seen the word emotional used way too much in this comment section, please come up with something else. If you don’t like women, date men!
@@Mizanthrobe you seem emotional a lot because it's true Jackie got emotional. Even Kyle got emotional. And when you get emotional in an argument you lose everybody knows that.
These debates never really work well because these topics are much more complicated to be able to be widely generalised. It’s situational dependent on each relationship and the dynamic of it.
@@lastapparatus6024 Myron is talking about the very top men. Men who are worth millions that can exercise their options. Most men can't do that. However I will agree that most men would want that.
Nope, it's because some people are too emotionally invested in this modern day illusion that females can be promiscuous without consequences that they blow up as soon as you start opening their eyes. Very low iq comment btw, lain.
Well men are territorial. They don't wanna lose there woman. U have to put urself in a man shoes. Knowing there's simps that ruin relationships everyday
The biggest issue with fresh and fit is they equate people to property. And when you bring up how that secure men don't have that sorta mindset they start arguments with the whole let me finish to redirect back to their point.
They use that analogy to try to make others understand their perspective. They made it very clear that women can do whatever they want. Post sexy picture all they want, but they just won't be my girl.
@@chuntong3541 no they use that analogy because they clearly view "their woman" as property. The pattern of how they speak of the other sex is very much telling.
Men are way to insecure and untrusting of women nowadays. You shouldn’t be in a relationship if you don’t trust your partner in the first place. Some of y’all will stay single 4ever taking Fresh & Fit advice I swear to god. “It’s disgusting the way they insulted them” brooooooooo these men offend women on the daily and don’t give a shit, grow tf up😭🤚🏽
How the hell is having a preference being insecure. There are many times when a female is asked they want someone who’s tall, has money, etc and people are fine with it. Then when men get asked their preference all of the sudden it’s misogynistic. If a guy don’t want his girl posting bikini pics on insta, that’s his personal preference. If the girl doesn’t like what the guy said about his preference then she doesn’t have to be with the guy, it’s simple as that. No one is stopping her. This has nothing to do with trust. You are the type of people fnf always talks about. You miss the point and listen with your feelings.
It's not nothing with trust from your partner. It's the people around them. They don't trust. Especially men. Because guys look at any man's girl and they don't care.
Fresh n Fit wanted to say the truth, but didn't. Women, with sexy pictures on IG, get men DMs saying, "Come out/fly out here and let me F*ck you. You'll get paid $." Women with sexy IG pictures get prostitution offers from men! "Fly out, let me fly you out, are all codes for "Yes, girl, come out here; we'll f*ck, and you'll get paid $." Men on IG do not get prostitution offers from women. Why? Because men and women are different and want different things. Why would a man in a serious relationship with a woman desire his woman to get prostitution offers from other men? Unless, that man is secretly her P*mp.
U dont even know they are professional womanizers and gets laid a lot. That's why they have PHD in what women really thinks and wants from men in general.
Because he believes women are beneath men and it's quite obvious. The amount of people in this comment section agreeing with him is appalling. I'm just waiting for the day that all of these "dating coaches" who are single or aren't even hetero have to eat their words. It's going to be glorious.
Because her points where medicro. She was responding with emotions and not tryna understand the inner dynamics of how people mate with each other. U learn more wen u listen. Whether u don't like it or not
@@missfranniepants yeah, it's kind of amazing how he says she's responding emotionally when she was the only one speaking logically. I think the logic went over their heads and that's why they didn't have anything of substance to say.
@@MadmanPanda there was no logic in what she says, she agreed with Fit about men and women being DIFFERENT but then expects them to have the same standard, thats emotional. its like saying "no women is allowed to date a guy whos taller than her, because shes not tall" thats dumb, because women prefer taller guys and men prefer girls who are shorter than them. jackie's logic is basicly "girls shud not date taller guys than them"
They say women can't explore other options but men can. Dude, who do you think is dming her? All the dudes you tell to go cheat and explore other options are the same dudes giving your girl attention! These guys are creating their own problems!
The reason why is because Its easy for u to sleep with alot of women. I could go into details on it. N there not creating problems. There midigating problems. We know how women act wen u don't respect your man. U loose. U get on the defense of why's. Always shifting back to the man wen men not even getting not even half the attention as women. If a woman respected her man. She wouldn't even have an Instagram point blank. This is just another reason to justify not making sacrifices with men.
@@JizzyRizzy89 respect flows both ways. Both partners may be required to sacrifice for the health and longevity of the relationship. If you want your woman to get off instagram, what do you plan to sacrifice on your end? If you want her to respect you, you better be respecting her too. If you want her to be committed and monogamous, then you better be the same! Saying your gender automatically gives you privileges above the other is the definition of sexism. And if these terms don't sound appealing then you will never find yourself in a long lasting, healthy relationship with a partner who respects and loves you. And if all you want is sex, then why do you even bother dating in the first place?
Some are saying that Kyle & Jackie were unprofessional towards Fresh & Fit, and that this was not proper radio etiquette. Well F&F’s views on women are fucking medieval and completely ridiculous. It’s not something one can take seriously, so how can you expect K&J to? There’s no way for them to NOT argue with F&F, especially Jackie, because their way of talking about women is just wack. They probably begged them to go on the show so Jackie can finally knock some sense into the bald-headed guy and his puppet.
You see when speak the truth to women they get triggered...most men view women ..this way..they not gonna say it because we get cancelled..we getting called all those names..so that is why men do not even open up and just shut up...because once you start speakin facts..they come out on you with their feelings
They were unprofessional towards the guest. I don't blame them and I don't think F&F blame them. After hearing all those adds you know that the female dollar is at play and even if they had a cordial discussion it would be seen by the PC crowd as tacit acceptance of F&F views. It was good move on the host part to go 180 on them and virtue signal to those trap in the matrix that they got their back lol. After all why risk getting cancelled.
This dude cut Jackie off sooo many times, Jackie was very patient and profesional considering Kyle kept calling women "bitches" under his breath and the two men compared women to a car, a literal object. Meanwhile Kyle just sat there and said nothing to that misogynistic analogy, nobody did. She had every right to leave. She was in a call with sexist men, if she stood her ground, she's emotional. If shes explaining her point, shes talking too much... theres no winning. If your agree with the guests beliefs, thats fair but dont complain when women dont want to date you or feel uncomfortable around you, you only have yourself to blame. Women will be thankful for making your red flags so obivous.
Those guys are talking about 'those' 2% men when they say a man can have multiple women openly. And there ARE a lot of women who accepts that, because they provide what they want in the end so, it's a good deal for them, marriage is a deal after all, specially if you have too much money. The average man don't have those options anyways, most are invisible to the average women, they need to make something of themselves before they can even have a real chance.
Imagine if Myron got to the “fat piece of shit lose weight rant.” Kyle would’ve gone mad, not knowing that might have been the best advice anyone could give him.
There's a huge difference between telling someone to lose weight and then ranting on them being a "fat pos": one is trying to help someone and the other is just being a dick. Myron's just doing the latter.
@@selvamani1973-p7b I feel bad for them but at the same time the women there act that way only because the men allowed them to. Men as a collective needs to raise our standards and not F anything that moves
Fresh and Fit always use the same lines, same deflection tactics, same lame ass analogies. He refused to give the host a straight answer as to why a man can be on socials but a woman cannot if they are in a relationship. Women may get MORE attention online, but men are still getting attention (as shown in the stupid graphic). If you are in a secure relationship there should be no reason to make such a one sided rule. Instagram is a social platform, most people use it for catching up with friends/family, running businesses, networking etc. Moreover, if you do not like your girl to post bikini pics online, then you should not be dating a girl that does so in the first place.
"if you do not liek your girl to post bikini pics online, then you should not be dating a girl that does in the first place." THAT IS HIS WHOLE POINT. FOR HIS IDEAL MATE, SHE CAN'T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA. THAT'S HIS PREFERENCE. You solved your own issue.
your slow brain does not understand that he is a messenger, so he's being blunt about it. in reality him or other men wont even say nothing. we will either fu*k you and leave you. or leave you alone altogether and not consider you an option. have you wondering why you wasn't picked.
@@mkzzzzzzzzzz1 That may be what you took from it but that’s not what he said lol and if he actually felt that way it’s very simple to say “i prefer to date girls who aren’t on social media”… that’s understandable. We don’t need his flawed charts, analogies, and stats to understand that.
She’s single divorced twice. She should be heeding Myron’s advice, not sniping at him. She has depression issues and no kids while aging out fast. Unreal. She is so unaware.
Trust me, Kyle is a bloke who says exactly what he wants on air, without censoring it. A quick google search can tell you that. Kyle is a ‘shock jock’ for a reason - he’s got no fear of cancel culture and nor should he. If he called these boys clowns it’s because that’s exactly what he thought.
@@teganceebohm7668 There wouldn't be people calling and saying "I was scared because it seemed like you were agreeing with them" if he was truly someone who wasn't afraid of cancel culture. Even with all the "shock jock" antics, he still toes the line. "Got no fear" definitely doesn't describe how he quickly switched up when his co-presenter said "Not all men think like this. Kyle, you don't (think like this) speak up, because it's like you're (agreeing with them)". Not only did she speak for him but it was essentially a warning ie. You better not agree with them.
Kyle’s lines of ‘I’m sick of you mate asking to finish, you’re long boring answers that are the exact same answers each time’ now have iconic status, and if they don’t, well they bloody well should
Ah, just like men who decide to kill women for rejecting them... Or punch walls because their sport team lost... Or have to create entire ideologies to justify getting dumped. Anger is literally an emotion and men are way more given to act on it.
It’s funny though cause a woman I went on date with last year didn’t want to see me again because I wasn’t financially stable lol… She wanted to be with a man who made more or as much as her. Money is good of course, but that doesn’t bring happiness.
It’s okay for a woman to have financial standards. As a man, a woman has to look a certain way before you even approach her and that’s fair. A woman knows her goals in life and she may want to stay home with the children…and for that he needs to be able to support a lifestyle. Why would a woman want to waste time dating a man who is not financially stable-that type of man shouldn’t be dating in the first place. Men always want the most attractive woman they can get before they even consider anything else about her….I won’t date a man who isn’t financially stable and has less than me….why would I??? I won’t be happy being the breadwinner.
I love that he kicked their a**’s off the show. They’re so rude , dismissive to women and especially black woman. So glad someone FINALLY got them together and gave them a taste of their own medicine. 👏🏾
Jackie is a white woman. He didn't dismissed anyone. It's just rude to cut people off wen their talking. I bet u wouldn't cut off the judge wen they're talking. Unless u wanna lose your rights.
How about you focus on your daughter’s instead and teach them how to be real feminine women, but it will tough since you can’t stay out of other people’s business you can’t give what you don’t have
@@OwnGrid but you a noisy ninja..it's 6.7 k comments and you telling someone else what to worry about....how about you focus on some 800 numbers to get you some help
F&F: finishes answering question and stops talking. Jackie O: has a rebuttal F&F: you need to let me finish, if you're asking me a question let me finish. Lmfao F&F are the lowest of the lowest caliber of males I've ever witnessed in my life.
no she kept interrupting him before he finished with the question with a rebuttal , then when he challenged the rebuttal she would interrupt him again before he could finish his point
13:08 your partner is “totally secure with it” because he doesn’t want to hear the backlash from his super feminist girlfriend… I guarantee you he would rather not have you post those bikini pics!
Nah I used to be blue pilled and people like that actually believes in that delusion that men and women are the same they women can do what men can do. They have to go through hell before they realize the truth.
And thats really all about trust. Just bc you know how a guy thinks & they send dms to theses women does mean that they're gonna reply. But not having an insta all together bc they're insecure is a red flag 100%
Can I ask? How does is this good for a relationship? ua-cam.com/video/adzVRJbDZkQ/v-deo.html I just want to understand. Why would I be insecure, if I don't like the person I'm dating doing this?
It’s a conversation. Why aren’t the host allowed to respond? They keep saying let me speak, why doesn’t he let them speak. Even when he has spoken for several minutes, she still can’t comment. It’s just ridiculous. Glad she kicked him off.
Being considered unattractive as a woman is honestly a blessing bc men like this don't want anything to do with you.
why would a fit and successful man date a fat girl.
Facts.
Lol
NO men want anything to do with you if you're unnatracive. Stop coping. Typical of women with bruised egos to turn down good looking guys even if she's ugly, just to inflate their already deflated ego.
Ironic that this actually supports their point that attraction for men and women is different, therefore both are different and should be treated differently
Wait I’m confused. Kyle blew up at Myron but y’all are saying Jackie was overly emotional? Interesting
It was ploy to not lose their listeners & job
@@mindblowinglyrics55 that doesn’t really challenge anything I said. Whether what Kyle did was a ploy or not, he still did it. So why is he not being critiqued for being emotional? And if Kyle’s reaction was a ploy, wasn’t Jackie’s? And if the answer to that is yes, then I’ll ask again, why weren’t they BOTH called out for being emotional then?
@@applepierules1000 idk. About you but I'm reading the comments rn and it's pretty 50/50: "Kyle is white knighting" & "Jackie is a Karen"
thank you for pointing this out, glad someone else noticed this
@@benjaminf.1492 The comment section is the fresh and fit subscribers so you can't really expect anything else from them,lol..They young mouldable minds who hasn't really lived yet but they talk about the modern women,lol..I'm guessing Its young guys in their twenties who go by appearance of a man's credibility on being in a fake relationship where he pays for a woman over just having a likeable personality where she just wants to be with you.
Why get into a relationship with someone who wants to be monogamous? if you want to sleep around that’s perfectly fine, just do it single. I don’t fucking understand, staying single is the most logical and obvious choice?? I’m single for this very reason! I love sex with multiple different people.
Exactly! Hes acting like people should respect him if he wants to cheat on his gf. Like absolutely disgusting.
Yes! Nothing wrong with choosing to be single for that reason! I’m appalled at how many people are agreeing with the guys in these comments
Because it's not enough men that you want to go around.. 😂😂
@@alexandrapetersen8582 I don't think he's advocating cheating, IIRC he's advocating a relationship that's open on one end (for the man) and with the terms laid out clearly in the beginning. Because he thinks that women would rather share a top 1% high-value rich/hot/successful man than have a mediocre man to themselves.
I do disagree with his double standard about how men cheating doesn't count though, like actual cheating behind the woman's back.
@@jjw3046 My boyfriend is in no way rich and hes a pretty normal guy but I would take him over any guy in the entire world. I think its shallow to assume women would take a rich guy over any other guy. Like yeah some girls r just straight up gold diggers and want money but most of us dont and just want happiness.
If women say posting sexy instagram photos isn't cheating, then why do women get so upset at men that look at other women on instagram? Can I get a Don DiMarco!!!
Don DiMarco!
Dondemarcooo
Because you’re showing attention to another woman than your girlfriend. This is why men are growing old and alone.
Lol men are choosing to be alone because women want to fight us about any standards we set for ourselves over time after getting rejected or abused
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Kyle BRAGGED about having an affair with 7 different women at once in Perth (one was his FIANCE), and fled the state afterwards
hes a degenerate along with his radio show, i dont even listen to them but i was on an uber once and they were on the radio, they were literally talking about how cheating was fine as long as you get away with it
So he proved their point that women want a player.
Kyle caught one of his ex-girlfriends mounting Chad.
How does Kyle satisfy those women? He has been overweight his adult life.
But did he say it was because he had a right to do it as a man or was he just being a prick?
@@CalikoTube that’s not a point proven. Some women may not even know who he is and if he’s sleeping around. There are also a lot of women and assume the same of all and what all women want. He’s controlling, narcissistic, and needs to get his trauma in check.
“That’s how men feel when THEIR WOMEN, post sexy pics” … the same women THEY CHEAT ON?!?!
That's different. Because there's relationship attraction and there's sexual attraction. Most women keep conflating the two like there the same. Just because is sleeping with u. Doesn't mean he's ready to commit to u.
Exactly. They cheat with those same women who inbox them. Yet women are disgusted by the inbox messaged from sleazy men.
@@JizzyRizzy89 but see if a woman were to do that, just yk sleep around and not be ready to commit to anyone, we'd pretty much be shamed and called a hoe for every little thing. yes those two are very much different but someone could end up hurt because of their sexual attraction. it's different when you act upon it and you stay loyal. If the man is allowed to basically go out and cheat, then the woman can be allowed to post a picture of themselves even if it is "sexy" because they are not acting on any sexual tendencies. women can not control what men do, and it ain her fault that they found her attractive and decided to hit her up
@@sikeyouthought8729 well take a look at all the pornostars and cheaters on TV. Onlyfans girl strippers, escort. There being called hoes. Why is it women whose in the industry and the rest for what I named out get it. Why do they understand the male nature but wen it comes to goody two shoes they don't know. The world is not a fantasy. U have to live in reality. Men could fyck other women and still be in love with there woman. Women can't. U ain't fyckin another dude if u love your man. Men and women are very different. Ur not hardwire like men to have sex with alot of woman. Men could do it. Women can't. This is the way. God has made us. Hell even my pastor told me. A mans penis has no conscious. That's why we do it.
And get this. Sexual attraction and relationship attraction is two different things. U could have sex with a guy with no title.
A man's loyalty is not fidelity. His loyalty. Is protecting u, providing for u and willing to die for u. A woman's loyalty is one thing. Is to not sleep with no men. Were different every step we take on this. Through cheating, loyalty, relationships, casual dating, and even marriages. It's all different.
And to answer your question on the dms from Instagram . Here's my thoughts on it. Why even have it and u kno your gonna get attention. That's like wearing booty shorts with your azz hanging out and u kno guys gon holla at u wen u wear that. When u walk down the street. Why not midigate it?
Yes
The fact he completely ducked when she said that men are more likely to act on it was hilarious 😂
Myron likes to explain to us how he’s technically gay
he just admitted it's ok for guys to be open and have options while being in a relationship and girls have to be obedient to them bye i'm done 🤮🤮🤮
Yes!!! I'm shocked!! Have you seen the comments on their UA-cam page. Sooo many comments agreeing. Wtf has this world come to.
1% of guys can enact on that and that’s how it’s been since the beginning of times!. Kings, sultans , generals and so on and those guys aren’t changing anytime soon to appease your fragile ego.
Most women will not sleep with other men when they’re emotionally attached to their man. If they do sleep with other men, then the relationship is over.
A small minority of women can sleep with other men with little to no emotional attachment but clearly these women are a minority exception and not the rule.
If you are a women of course you wouldn't understand.
Men can have sex without emotional investment.
It's like taking a piss.
Women would admit that men HAVE TO meet higher expectations when it comes to sex.
Understand?🤷
@@alpharays3667 and? Your point?
If this was a drinking game and I had to take a shot everytime he said "Here's the thing", "Can I finish", etc. I would pass out lol.
You have weak tolerance
She acted like a rookie OAP.
Maybe because they kept cutting the guests off after bombarding them with questions?
That’s because the hosts wouldn’t let the guys talk..? 🔥🤘🏻😂
@@byrneluke Agree'd but it wasn't his show. The best thing they could have done is say "If yall keep interrupting I'm just going to leave the show" and cut the camera off just like old man winter did them. He's used to talking to people like that on HIS show where he has the power.
Should relationship be build with trust? If me, as guy, explore other options, I would feel guilty for cheating on my girlfriend. Why did you enter a relationship in the first place, if you’re just going to cheat on your woman?
Equally, why is she advertising as if she’s single by posting sexy pictures without you?
@@floriandc5695 I think same goes for women as well not only for us men.
if you agreed upon that before the relationship why would u feel guilty?
@@latrellagujitas9835 its not advertising if no one is gonna buy it nigga. and like every single guy who ever went to the gym says " i got more compliments from guys on my physique than women"
@@RobinXlone so you’re basically it’s okay to cheat?
It doesn’t matter what gender you are sleeping around when you are in a relationship is still cheating
Yeah that's cheating for sure.They are talking about men with status so the main woman had to share him just to be the main girl.
Nope
Yes it is cheating, but women are only attracted to men that have options available to them. If you're a committed monogamous guy she'll eventually lose interest.
@@Marc_Lambert I am living proof what you just said is BS ive been with my gf for 10 years. When do you predict she'll "lose interest"
@@jimmcnicholas9670 if she loses interest she won't tell you to your face. I recommend checking her phone / social media to see what she says about you behind your back.
Why is he speaking on attractive men and their options when he is NOT attractive!!! The only way he will have options is with his podcast money! Don't confuse that with attraction babe.
🤣🤣🤣FACTS
That's flawed logic though....
That's like someone saying why are you commenting about this podcast, when you don't have a podcast yourself.
😂😂😂😂😭😭😭💀
@@GarageStudio7 it was just a joke don't read to much into it. Being attractive is a obvious subjective matter anyway
Money and the lifestyle they provide are attractive to women. Maybe that’s news to fake TV
If men want quantity, and women want quality... Then he made his own argument with the attention scale on social media. Men message 30 women, women message 10, of course the ratio is off. Imagine being ignorantly intelligent.
Because men do most of the chasing at first til sex
Average woman gets a lot of reply average men doesn't
@@jjrobledo and the average men are more likely to reply
@@jjrobledo thats on men tho.
He actually undersold the reality. The average guy gets zero dms and prob 1-2 girls that he meets through social circles that are interested in him every year (if he’s lucky). The average girl has sexual abundance of options on steroids. Her dms are full and she gets d@ck thrown at her everyday. She walks into a nightclub and every guy (average-to-attractive) hits on her. The average girl has more options than a good looking guy that has money. And when the average women messages a guy it’s a 0.0001% man and/or she swipes right 1/50 times. That’s the reality. Women have an abundance of options, they are very picky. And men have almost no options and can’t be picky. The majority of men are invisible to the majority of women.
The main reason why they think it's cheating for a woman but not a man, is because they don't think men are capable of cheating. Period. Even if he's in a relationship and he goes after other women for sex, that's not cheating. According to them, cheating is only something a woman can do. When a man does it, it's called "exercising his options". So that's the foundation he's working on.
Not only that, he lives in a world where there are no women except for the women who post near naked photos of themselves. It's not possible for him to imagine a woman on Instagram who wants to use it for anything else but thirst traps. Other women are not real.
Maybe most married women don't have thirst trap instagrams. That could be true as well. Honestly this is a Millenial and Gen Z issue. Boomers and Gen X would never think of posting what it the norm in today's day and age.
When women post selfies of themselves on social media (no matter how sexual it is) they are seeking validation from others. They are 'exercising their options' as you put it. They are hoping for likes and messages from guys.
There are very few millennial women who don't post attention seeking selfies on social media, so it's easy to understand where he's coming from.
@@Marc_Lambert but there is a generational difference that needs to be emphasized here. GenX would never post the intimate sexy things that are posted by Millenials and Gen Z's. I think what they should have done is show the actual IG's by the girls vs what the guys IGs look like. There are stark contrasts.
@@Marc_Lambert But how do you know how many women aren’t posting attention seeking selfies if they are purposefully flying under your radar? I’m a woman who doesn’t post attention seeking selfies and every woman I know personally and the women I follow are similar to me (using Instagram for memories, sharing art/beauty/learning, etc often for a community of OTHER WOMEN with similar interests). Because these are my circles, the women who do use Instagram for thirst traps seem like the minority (not that they are rare but that they are a small fraction of the entire female population on Instagram). Unless there are stats pulling this info from Instagram (of ALL female users, what percentage post sexy/revealing pictures with the intent of getting attention from men), we can’t really know.
Could it be possible the same confirmation bias is happening on your end? Maybe when you spend a lot of time looking at thirst traps on Instagram…you get the sense that there are a lot of women posting thirst traps on Instagram. You see what you are looking for.
@@WeCoachMentalHealth Yes, I agree. Older generations grew up with religion instilled into them from an early age, so they have a different mindset to today's youth.
Rest in peace Kevin Samuels, he would have tore this podcast a new one
Facts!! 💯
No he wouldn’t have lol. He couldn’t even stand toe to toe with DJ Vlad
kevin samuels was on fresh and fit twice and agreed with them
Fr! Imagine doing an interview with some one and being too pussy and soft to finish the show because your grown feelings got in the way?! Imagine being so lame you rage quit like a little girl!!!
@@wrappedaroundmyfinger you’re out of your little mind
I hope he doesn't say "Let me finish" that much during sex 😂😂😂
He has admitted that he doesn't care about making the woman he sleeps with come so I guess he does😂
This is hilarious
This man literally said “closed on your end and opened on my end”
There’s no reasonable justification for it, the only justification offered was “well if I’m in a relationship then you shouldn’t have an IG and show your body. Because other people looking at you causes me to feel like you’re inviting men to seek sexual favors from you.”
That’s not logical. That’s insecurity. Unless she is actively trying to sleep with other men, by messaging them and making arrangements, that’s not cheating.
Posting photos does not equate to cheating.
So if a woman is at the beach with friends she couldn’t ever post photos of her day, because that’s disrespectful?
Men will do what men will do. A woman could wear a turtleneck sweater and still be hit on by men. Men will throw their shot at almost anything. And sadly it’s ALWAYS the woman who is minding her own business fault for another stranger’s thoughts.
Honestly, men, this is tragic.
Here’s what I agree on, if you are in a relationship you should respect that commitment, but that goes BOTH ways. It shouldn’t be closed for women and OPENED to men. That’s just ridiculous. Do for your partner what you would want done for you. The golden rule. It’s simple.
And the number of followers someone has doesn’t mean shit. I know of a man who dresses up as a woman and does skits who has more followers than F&F. So what does that mean?
I know of several dogs and cats who have more followers than F&F and are over the 1mil mark...so what does that mean? Nothing.
All it means is that people find the F&F channel entertaining. F&F has a Maury Povich vibe. Occasionally Maury would have some shows of substance but the majority of people tune it because they like to see the baby daddy drama and make fun of women who don’t know who the father of their kids are ..same with F&F the majority of the viewers like to make fun of women, the comments reflect this.
All their numbers means is that there are several broken men in the world who are in need of serious therapy and healing.
not forced, you can choose to stay or leave
You do realize the people that take antidepressants and anti anxiety medications at least here in the USA are women
Well said
Exactly!!!🙌🏽
This is the one 🙌🏽
That feelings rage quit was fkn hilarious 😂. Watching her feelings then take over the old dude was simp 101
Pride and arrogance are emotions too. It makes stuff go in one ear and out the other without ever touching the brain.
He’s no simp, he’s just usedto dominating conversations and got annoyed when Myron kept saying let me finish. He also knows teenaged girls and young women are their biggest audience and likes good ratings.
Myron sounds like a broken record
I think the casual sexualization of women's bodies is another problem, and what you would consider a sexual photo may be a regular day at the beach and sharing an experience, noone cares about the attention you give them, but these guys are upset because the attention being given is one sided.
Different and Equality are not the same thing.
We are physically different yes but we are all equally human who deserve equal human rights.
Also, sticking your man hood in someone other than your woman is cheating no matter how many "options" you get to stick it to. It's a physical act that is way more connecting than looking at pictures or someone you will probably never meet IRL
Edit: Thanks so much for all the likes and comments 😊
It's cheating in present day American culture, yes.
@@drew2fast489 no haha only insecure men thinks that.
By
him responding: wait but let me finish! let me finish! … men and women are different 🤡 🤣
@@bubblewire680 you invited them to discuss their point of view and barrage them with multiple questions while they are explaining. Only to personally insult them for having a point of view that you don't agree with. Why have them on?
That energy switch from Kyle after the break was booky
he was probably threatened to be fired if he continued to be agreeable with F&F
@@eqbal321a He just had enough and snapped.
@@Mizanthrobe no my dear
@@eqbal321a So I’m assuming that you have had a convo with Kyle?
@@Mizanthrobe did you
These clowns are so annoying at this point they need to just start dating other men
based on this response you will either die alone or as a single mother. No man is gonna take women who's incapable of listening seriously, you're just a pump and dump.
Exactly!
😐
keep dating your cat.
@@zengar2134 your mama
He continues with the emotional manipulation. Dude, if that's what "All Men" think and feel; you shouldn't be surprised when women don't want to date anymore.
Y'all will lose out more.
Men will still get sex, women won't get marriage & kids
EXACTLY
He never said ALL men think like that. It's pretty obvious that it's most. Not all. he agreed with them when they said that.
@@lashaunbeazer9264 he says all men all the time. He talks in generalizations all the time. He says all women too. What are you talking about?
@@lashaunbeazer9264 He said all.
They attract who they are. They are superficial self serving and lack basic emotional intelligence so that’s who they attract those type of women. They are in Miami so they believe their view is BASIC PRINCIPLE.
You don’t understand them… You just judge off clips if you did, it might actually enlighten you
Most young women are “superficial” “self serving” “lack basic emotional intelligence” .. so I guess ur right 😂
@@ACTFIREE There's nothing to understand. Fool and fruit are just complete and utter idiots.
@@ACTFIREE I’ve watched complete and full clips. I hate looking at 10 second clips and forming an opinion. I’ve watched interviews and their views are just very one sided
@@ACTFIREE Their views are far too extreme.
The fact that he gave Kings and sultans personal lives as an example shows how out of touch and far from reality they are.. he is thinking like a stone age man where the leader of the tribe can have more than one woman the rest can't cause they don't have the same privileges .. the fact that those two have an audience show how stupid some people are.. just because they have girls on thier show doesn't mean that they understand relationships .. basically thier general msg is : get rich and successful then you can get as much chick's as you want .. like a boy living the clubbing and partying life .. pathatic tbh !
Who do you think the modern “sultans” are? They’re the top men of society the doctors,lawyers, athletes, celebrities,etc. it’s simple supply and demand, there are very few men like them and an abundant amount of woman looking for men like them.
you are not taking in consideration the female nature
Reproduction process has always been the same for centuries. From sultans to celebrities it’s the same, just different times
@@remont777 exactly wtf is this man talking about relationships have never been about love its about equal exchange. A man has no obligation to be loyal to a woman who wouldn't be loyal to him if he didn't have resources
u think we are now woke beings without animal nature?
men realize they don’t have to identify with their stereotypes right? how r u speaking from personal experience yet generalizing a whole “gender” they rlly scared and hide behind that stereotype like they afraid to speak an original thought, how have they made this far in life, disrespectful as hell
This is why I will never get married. Men make themselves sound awful.
Generalization is how the world works. We can't live on fantasy island. Like there's not a problem. There's an elephant in the room n it needs to be address
Exactly! Like, they say they’re helping men but they’re further perpetuating the stereotypes for men which won’t help them evolve into greater people but instead keep them ignorant. It’s the Allegory of the Cave and these “smart” men don’t see it. They’re not interested in the society growing. They’re only interested in money and spreading their mentally unstable seed which leads into a continuous cycle because their kids learn from them and it never ends. They also talk about the red pill blue pill and it’s like, y’all really don’t understand the analogy because if you did, you wouldn’t even care about these “issues” and you’d focus more on growing out of generalized personalities. Generalization is for children, not adults. And if that’s how YOU want to live for the rest of your life, being generalized before you even speak, do it but don’t say it about society because people shock me with their new discoveries every day.
Average men won't be able to have standards... they are talking about the attractive 10% of men that women wants
there was noting wrong with what he said, he just has standards and when he lets his standard be known you find it disrespectful but at the same time you have your own standard which you expect others to respect.
I only want my hubby to look at me. There is no way i would put pics of myself half undressed. I dont think its respectful to a marriage. But Kyles guests are taking it a bit far.
I guess you don’t wear swimsuit to the beach?
Sounds like they are jealous. “Because I don’t get as much attention as you, you can’t have an Instagram”. It just sounds like they want the same attention that women are getting. If men were getting the same attention then do they still get to keep their instagrams or do they have to delete it too? Sounds childish.
Are you also the same type of woman who cries about double standards when it benefits men? Like you sleeping with a lot of guys makes you a slut but not us? How about when we get to take out shirt off in public (not that it happens a lot) but you can't. Cause I see yall get jealous of men when it doesn't benefit women as well. Are those women childish? Please keep that same energy you and the 5 people who liked your comment. I hate hypocrisy.
You need to learn to pay attention when people are speaking. He clearly says sex for men, is like attention for women. So men getting attention isn’t the same when a women gets attention.
@@R3dsk1n2123 💯💯
You come to your conclusion because you believe in the concept of blank slate equalism which is false since it's not grounded in reality.
@@aaaaaa2206 also she is using her feelings to justify
I think the main part that's missing from this convo is CONSENT & RESPECT. People in committed relationships should understand each other's boundaries and RESPECT them. If your partner doesn't respect you or your boundaries then you shouldn't be with them, man or women. A relationship is not a dictatorship, it's a partnership. A man should respect his woman just as much as his woman should respect him, it's simple. Obviously Myron doesn't understand that concept at all which is why it results in his struggles when dealing with women and why he's single. If a woman knows her man likes variety in women or multiple sex partners and if she's okay with that then that's cool, that's not considered 'Cheating'. CHEATING is when you're being sneaky stepping out on your partner sleeping around with other women behind her back without her consent and that's where the disrespect comes into play, that's not cool. Yes men and women are biologically not the same but that does NOT give a man the right to embarrass or disrespect his woman and her boundaries just because he doesn't look at dating and sex the same way as a woman does AND have the nerve to tell her she shouldn't do to him what he's doing to her LMAO that's asinine thinking. It doesn't matter how much money or status a man/woman has, LYING & CHEATING on your partner is never okay and is the ULTIMATE disrespect in a relationship. Polyamorous relationships are okay because the main groundwork of it is CONSENT. Both partners are considered and met with respect between each other's boundaries. A woman is supposed to be your better half, not your employee, that's what dude doesn't get, he looks at women as byproducts and not actual people... it's sad honestly.
I should've been born lesbian. I hate the way men view women and sex.
Right on brother
Exactly, and to me it really comes down to his ego as well. He says all of these “universal truths” about how men want loyalty etc, and yet if every woman in the world came to him and told them that they value loyalty too he still wouldn’t believe it because he has these delusional beliefs (100% ego based, not biology) that women value strength over loyalty. Honestly this is hard to watch, the way he refuses to have a conversation and feels entitled to these big “let me put it this way” spiels without any sort of pushback is honestly disgusting. Entitlement and ego, yuck.
So sad
@Whiwjwuwiq You'll be fine I swear, plus you're 16 you have plenty of time to find the one so don't sweat it.
Could have been a good debate, but yeah, too many interruptions, very bad radio etiquette.
“You’re cutting me off” says the guy that wasn’t even speaking to begin with LMAO
Right! Every time he said let me finish he had already finished and Jackie or Kyle were responding 🤦♀️
I’m not even offended by these guys, it’s laughable really. If a woman wants to date them with the mentality they have then good luck to her 😂
these guys are dating multiple women at a time. they practice what they preach and prove their points every night mon-fri. They are saying what most men are thinking, men today cant be honest with women.
@@R3dsk1n2123 Do you know what Kyle was fixing to say about Dan Bilzarian or whatever tf his name is? Dan said that despite the lavish life and parties and non commital sex with many women, he still feels lonely. He's not happy. If this is how most men feel then my God I would rather die alone. You guys have no emotional depth, you worship men to the point of blind belief and only consider women holes.
@@Contrarian-v7p this response is the reason men can’t be honest with women. Thank you for proving my point. Seek therapy and a dog, cause no man is gonna take you serious. You’re a pump and dump at best.
@@R3dsk1n2123 Your response would hurt more if you knew me and it didn't come from a man who sucks so much at living his life he needs to dickride two equally broken men whose advice is literally the laughing stock of women.
You wouldn’t expect anything else coming out of the mouth of this woman that’s for sure.
What Fresh and fit are trying to do is actually help woman become more attractive. Woman these days think they’re men, they go around and sleep around like they’re men. The thing is when they’re used up no man actually wants them.
They no longer become marriage material.
By the time this chick here turns 30 with a notch count of 50 bodies, a high value dude will look straight past her for a younger hotter and tighter 21 year old to reproduce with.
Doesn’t matter how much attention a woman gets because according to their logic women go for quality not quantity… it’s not the same.
Why is what women want gets cheered on
@@OwnGrid because what men want is dangerous. Sleeping with multiple women (most likely unprotected) they can bring back hella shyt. Furthermore, when women compete for example in the harem days as Fresh points out, these women were vicious and literally killed each other for ONE man’s attention. What men want is way more dangerous.
@@EmpressKiya. you are making a tone of assumptions about how that play out, and those days are not gone and never will. Independent powerful men still do it. A lot of women would rather share a winner than lower their standards, so maybe there is something wrong with women because they enable this behavior
It does matter, because women trade up. There's a reason why 80% of divorces are initiated by women. Even cheating men remain in their relationship. For a woman to even consider cheating, it means the relationship is already over.
Why even think about how much attention one gets vs the other and bring it up. That’s a insecurity and harbored hatred. That guy is hurt by someone. He won’t even consider the amount of people who do care or think different in his stats even if it’s smaller amount it’s considered in stats because it’s PEOPLE we talking about. That amount counts too . They don’t consider the niche or grey areas
304's mad lmao
It's also clear the Australian mafia threatened Kyle's family during the break. 😂🤣🤣
Imagine being in a "committed relationship" where the guy doesn't need to commit to anything.
...and this is coming from a guy.
How is it then a "committed relationship"? If a person doesn't commit to anything then it is not a committed relationship.
You’ve just got to laugh at these idiots 😂🫣🥹
@@aircraftboy1648 that is J.A. Greene’s point
Wrong, the guy commits to providing, and protecting the woman.
@@mattstone9364
Part of that is protecting her emotional stability. Ever think of that?
I feel like these guys try and use "evolution" and "science" to back their claims of sleeping with loads of women. The dangerous part is when they have an influence and speak for all "men" and generalize women based on "evolution". If you want to sleep with loads of women and have your preferences thats great but dont generalize all "men" like that. Some men can careless what there girlfriend post because they know they are stable in their relationship. If you dont like it because you see it a certain way then just find a girl thats fine with whatever your preference are but dont generalize and speak for all of men out there.
Great, if you take a survey of 100 men and at least 80 men will want to sleep with as many women as they can then generally most men do want that. The remaining 20 are exceptions.
Definition of “generally” - in most cases; usually. in general terms; without regard to particulars or exceptions. widely
those men who are okay with their women posting bikini pics and watching dudes hit on them in their comments are cucs. Most men wants to sleep with loads of women the men who don’t are exceptions and exceptions don’t make the rule. The fact that they have fans worldwide goes to show it’s the same all around the world and that what they’re saying isn’t bullshit, they say what men want to say but can’t because you’re going to get shamed for it .
My thing is black men are the bottom males of society. They are the last man on earth I will take advice on relationships from.
Evolution and facts. What more do you need ?
@@notghxsty8591 the fact they have fans worldwide is fucking Delores it and maddening that this ducking old ass bullshit hasn’t died off in the fucking 21st century. Still want to live like it’s the 17th fuck of with that fucking shit
Narcissists that are turned down by a potential love interest are more likely to be angry, seek retribution and are more likely to commit sexual assault. They also are more likely to objectify women as a group. When a woman posts “sexy photos” and “objectify” themselves, if a narcissistic man gets turned by a woman who posts stuff like this, he gets aggressive.
And how does is pertain to anything in this video??
It doesnt she thinks shes a psychologist
I don't think that only applies to men btw.. Also, people who consume massive amounts of propaganda are more likely to have personality disorders.
Legendary D-bo G there’s empirical and statistic evidence that supports my claim.
Edge the study that I’m referencing is only was tested on men with narcissistic personality traits. I’m not comparing one or the other, I’m just stating fact that is supported by studies.
When real people on real time check Myron you notice he just talks in circles and says the same thing. His points are NOT valid and when someone else makes a good point he goes to the same tired victim strategy that he always uses saying “let me finish” or attacking the other person saying they are in their “feelings”. Once you see all his tricks in action over and over again you realize his points are really trash and his whole worldview is immature childish beta bs.
Myron didn’t get to finish 99% of his points. The hosts were too busy getting triggered and not actually paying attention to what was being said. They didn’t check him at all, in fact they rage quit the whole debate. It’s pretty sad for their fan base to blindly follow them. You should try actually paying attention when people are speaking. You might learn something.
Exactly! And she pointed it out.
Women who doesn't respect there man post whatever they want. But women who respects there man never would post anything. How is that not VALID?
And talking over people is rude. It's no manners
Maybe he was talking in circles because they were only listening to respond and not listening to understand what he was saying.
@@R3dsk1n2123 after he said that women and men aren't equal he lost the right to speak
Their power move is trying to always interrupt people when they talk
you mean from kyle and jackie XD
They knew their opinions before inviting them on the show. So rude, asking them questions and not letting them answer just because they don't like the answer. They planned this for sure, to stir the pot and gain clout because they are not as popular as they once were.
@@Mistanyycguy That FnF dunce went on and on and on with his rambling responses; clocked 2 1/2 minutes on that car analogy alone, 10% of the entire show. On top of that, he had the same damn answer to every question " 'Men and women are different.'" Over and over. That's not an attempt at debate, that's a meme.
Honestly, I would've just started muting them, but that's no good for a show I imagine.
@@Beakerz857 and that’s why you’ll never be considered to host a show, dufus.
@@Beakerz857 They have no choice but to repeat the answer because Jackie is so arrogant that she's not listening to the answer.
These guys are so disrespectful.
Just laughing when Jackie is saying something against their views.
And this stupid "all men" "let me finish" and "here is the thing"
He was already done with his sentence, Jackie starts, and he is interrupting with "let me finish" - just because he does not like what she is saying.
It's so funny to see how they let kyle finish his sentences....
Well, i think the interview was pretty good after all. Sorry they did not end it professionnally because arguments was good from both side.
It was very difficult for them to let Jackie finish when she was currently interrupting when they were answering her questions
So them calling them dickheads and clowns is ok by your stance ? They didn’t insult them once and they radio show carried out the show badly .
This is like a man invited a girl on a date , not liking what she says then leaving her to foot the bill when he is the one that invited her.
@@iamjoshl on their podcast, they kept calling her a b word…so, they’re allowed to be rude but they aren’t. I watched their WHOLE podcast, they were being outright rude like Myron got so emotional and started yelling lol she must’ve struck a nerve…
lol ur built like a potato, hush
If he says “Let me finish” one more time 🙄 You did finish & she started to respond and you keep finding something else to say to the 3 words she’s saying so she can’t say anything. She’s Legit not getting a word in edgewise
he let her talk . 😑 why can’t it go both ways ……wtf is this logic
@@dariobalde4209 it's a female defending another female 🤷
@@TheHighEvolutionaryP13 I know I bet she on Amber heard side too 💀
@@dariobalde4209 You're probably right. What a tragedy.
@@dariobalde4209 18:51, 6:47, 8:18, 8:41, 10:29 is this letting her finish? disregarding the fact that this is an argument people are allowed to interject and refute points or discuss them before proceeding
I agree with Jackie… it’s your insecurities!!!
Fresh and fit Podcast 👏 👌
Woke culture
*lol* Why shouldn't the men be insecure if their main girl is attention seeking for guys to DM them? You women think you are equal (spoilers we're not) Men know they won't get the attention of women. I used to stream playing video games on Twitch. Rarely did I have more than 2 people at a time watching me. A young, cute woman stream and has hundreds to thousands of viewers. Not to mention the guys that hit on a female streamer.
Also I think it wasn't explained as well, that men want the quantity is because for men sex is an act. They don't have to be attached to a woman. The woman needs the quality a.k.a. the emotional connection.
They were pretty specific about the women posting sexy pics while in a serious relationship leading to marriage and kids! It’s not about insecurities, it’s a respect thing!
Explain to me how?
Everything she’s saying is going over their heads 💀 damn lol
Because it's emotion versus reason. You cannot disprove a logical argument with emotional statements which appeal to ego investment.
Because she wasn't saying anything.
Interesting I thought it was the other way around.
Facts
@@chuntong3541 oops yes everything FnF was saying went in straight thru there heads! Had hope for the guy for a second there
Fresh and fit. Or I should say just fit because fresh don’t say anything, make way too many generalizations on what the status quo of men and women are. He sees everything through a thin veil of his own insecurities, it makes me wonder who hurt him to give him this world view.
You need generalizations to create arguments/theories. That doens't deny the existence of exceptions, in fact, exceptions being exceptions that they are, only prove that its right to generalize. If we start seeing exceptions everywhere, then there's no argument to be made because then everything deppends and its the end of the argument... like, this should be obvious, it's basic logic, we humans are generalizing almsot everything everytime, but on very specific things i guess we can't operate in logic or we'll hurt peoples fee fees, and hurting their fee fees is unaceptable these days.
@@flaclaren7682 that is true but the issue is that fit makes generalizations based upon his own interpretations even though it is not based on reality. Generalizations are good when you actually have the data to support those generalizations. Fit makes generalizations based upon his ideals and worldviews even tho he has no statistics to prove any of the points he makes.
For example that would be the equivalent to if I were to say that the sky is red. I believe this and people that I associate with believe this as well. So I then stated that as fact and say that everyone believes what I do. That is a generalization true, but it is not one that is based upon provable fact.
@@hunterjurke3598 If you want numbers there is a book named just like that sunshine.
@@myvideosetc.8271 they didn’t ask for data or numbers, they stated that F&F doesn’t have any so, what is your point? Take this energy and tell F&F to come with the data so people will be more inclined to believe what they say is true and not just made up scenarios that live under the “what-if” category.
@@pleasedtomeetyou1284 Many words to say "I will disregard data because feelings even if exists", thanks for serving as a verification of F&F points.
Kyle got a call from the bosses during the break saying he’s about to get fired if he doesn’t shut it down
Proof?
@@nosoynegrosoycafe7811 😂
@@seanc120 This dude needs to proof he's not black before saying some shiiit like that. lol
@@nosoynegrosoycafe7811 He' s trolling , was just a funny comment
Its not trollling, maybe not get fierd, but they obviously told him what to think.
And be a goood boy
Fresh and fit is so ridiculously insecure it’s insane
How's is that insecure? The man is trying to protect his relationship. N how to keep the relationship going is not tolerating thot behavior. Wen u in a relationship with a high value man. U have to sacrifice.
@@JizzyRizzy89 “high value man” Lmaoo. The insecurity is thinking she is posting pics because she wants attention of man. She simply likes how she looks in a picture and posts it. If u weren’t insecure you could understand that and not be so worried about other dudes.
@@JizzyRizzy89 ur not “protecting” the relationship ur trying to control a woman.
@@rebelchild9652 that's bs. Women don't take pics to just take pics. Na if she was a model and had to wear clothes for name brand. Or had a business. That's a different story. But taking pics to fish for a attention to get likes, comment, and dms. N if women would respect there man. They wouldn't do anything to mess up their relationship. It's not about being controlling. It's about being in control of your relationship. Letting your woman do whatever she wanna do. Is bad. Shes gonna treat that man like a puppy. N most women are unattractive by guys they could run over. She's not gonna respect him if he let it continue. Prime example look at jada pinkett. Since will let her do what she wanna do. She went into another relationship with another guy. That's wat fnf was trying to say but they kept interrupting him.
@@JizzyRizzy89 ur using ONE celebrity relationship as an example. The idea that women post pics and do everything JUST for male attention is ridiculous and stems from that insecurity im talking about. A woman can say “damn I look good today” and post a fucking picture. If ur in a relationship the “control” is trusting that your partner is loyal to you and loves you the same way you do for her. Women are not constantly trying to undermine and cheat men they are simply enjoying and loving themselves which is something you as insecure and misogynistic men don’t understand. If u break these broken ass ideas in ur head you would understand that and have a much happier and vivid romantic life
You know the sad part is the old dude was agreeing with them until the commercial break. Then, he completely changed afterwards. I think the producer or manager or whoever signs his paycheck told him to change what he was saying.
Spineless
Bro was gonna get fired there’s sad af
He was agreeing with them UNTIL they said the bit about cheating. Don’t try to spin it.
@@Dunnygirl21 don't try and spin it? The guy himself has gloated about cheating on women. There's a reason why the break they took was longer then what it was suppose to be. They were telling him that they needed to get off that interview immediately.
@@jerryc1112 yes because they were talking shit about the podcast. Kyle and Jackie were listening to what they were saying on their podcast. It sounds like you’re speculating.
What was said during the break did Kyle get lectured 😂
obviously lol
You know the answer to that bro
he had to listen to his mommy
Its Australia what do you expect? Ban him from our country🤣🤣 LOL
proud of kyle & jackie for shuttin this bullshit up because these boys just b chattin to hear themselves speak
Lol they shutted it up on their radio starion which literally no one cares about. Meanwhile they were continuing the stream with 10 times the amount of listeners lmao.
@@jessj7516 yet you're here commenting on their UA-cam channel 🤡
@@whatsernamezz Where do you think i came from?
@@whatsernamezz you mad mad 😂😂
He loves to say “here’s the thing…” bahahahahahaha
lol!
I literally cringe when I hear their voices😭 I wonder if this type of ideology stems from mommy issues.
Why what they say wrong?
How does living in reality stems from mommy issues?
@@aircraftboy1648 how is that reality when they are lying all the time? They got exposed many times, not only by feminists
@@aircraftboy1648 lmao
@@aircraftboy1648 Can ya'll just say ya'll don't get bitches and keep it pushing lmao
People really agreeing with this dude for saying that men posting those pictures is okay because women don't objectify men but its bad when its a woman posting it cuz men objectify women 💀
This dude is also entirely excluding the fact that women have feelings too claiming that men get offended easily but women arent allowed to lmao
Exactly, and people saying her feelings are in her way is because he is so disrespectful. The fact that the comments are agreeing with them upsets me so much. I feel so bad for her.
@irene luv bot Are you a fool? If what you are saying is true then men should be able to make money on onlyfans standing butt naked.... but the reality is nobody buys that crap but women are able to make millions of dollar posting feet pictures! You will understand the reason for that difference if you try to use 1 brain cell that god has gifted you with
@@AidenDavey123 Facts don't care about feelings mate. The truth is the truth regardless of how you're going to feel about it. There is a reason why many people agree with them, even right here you saw for yourself. If a majority of people weren't agreeing, there would have been no support for them.
@@ankitnagvekar9289 so how many women are you bringing home? I can tell you are not in a relationship. And if you were obviously you do not know how to cultivate a healthy relationship so it wouldn't last very long at all.
@@BlackberryTitties I actually live in the Middle East and just married my 3rd wife last month, but go on tell me about relationships
The misogyny in the comments is concerning…
It's not surprising
the misandry in your comment isnt that concerning
@@lastapparatus6024 What she said isn't misandry it's just dumb. Misogyny is hatred of women and she is using the word without knowing the definition. It is very common, all feelings zero logic.
@@chuntong3541 No she got it right. It’s misogyny. I’ve seen the word emotional used way too much in this comment section, please come up with something else. If you don’t like women, date men!
@@Mizanthrobe you seem emotional a lot because it's true Jackie got emotional. Even Kyle got emotional. And when you get emotional in an argument you lose everybody knows that.
These debates never really work well because these topics are much more complicated to be able to be widely generalised. It’s situational dependent on each relationship and the dynamic of it.
not that situational at all. the vast majority of men do want what Myron is talking about and have wanted it for a lifetime.
@@lastapparatus6024 Myron is talking about the very top men. Men who are worth millions that can exercise their options. Most men can't do that. However I will agree that most men would want that.
Nope, it's because some people are too emotionally invested in this modern day illusion that females can be promiscuous without consequences that they blow up as soon as you start opening their eyes. Very low iq comment btw, lain.
@@RedPillSpill101 😂😂😂😂
It’s scary that there are men who think like this and treat women as if they’re not people and are property.
Its scary to think there are women out there that value a bunch of pixels on their phone more than a relationship and future with a man
Well men are territorial. They don't wanna lose there woman. U have to put urself in a man shoes. Knowing there's simps that ruin relationships everyday
@@Broshadian there are a handful of men and women who do that. It is NOT because of gender.
@@sophiaqotb212 no its wemon who do that and they will pay for it sooner or later
its because men want exclusive sexual access to you the way you want exclusive resource access from him
The biggest issue with fresh and fit is they equate people to property. And when you bring up how that secure men don't have that sorta mindset they start arguments with the whole let me finish to redirect back to their point.
They use that analogy to try to make others understand their perspective. They made it very clear that women can do whatever they want. Post sexy picture all they want, but they just won't be my girl.
@@chuntong3541 no they use that analogy because they clearly view "their woman" as property. The pattern of how they speak of the other sex is very much telling.
@@joshuanunez8397 what pattern do you mean?
@@joshuanunez8397 property would mean control & ownership. Get your definitions straight
@@harsh3948 interesting.
Men are way to insecure and untrusting of women nowadays. You shouldn’t be in a relationship if you don’t trust your partner in the first place. Some of y’all will stay single 4ever taking Fresh & Fit advice I swear to god. “It’s disgusting the way they insulted them” brooooooooo these men offend women on the daily and don’t give a shit, grow tf up😭🤚🏽
How the hell is having a preference being insecure. There are many times when a female is asked they want someone who’s tall, has money, etc and people are fine with it. Then when men get asked their preference all of the sudden it’s misogynistic. If a guy don’t want his girl posting bikini pics on insta, that’s his personal preference. If the girl doesn’t like what the guy said about his preference then she doesn’t have to be with the guy, it’s simple as that. No one is stopping her. This has nothing to do with trust. You are the type of people fnf always talks about. You miss the point and listen with your feelings.
It's not nothing with trust from your partner. It's the people around them. They don't trust. Especially men. Because guys look at any man's girl and they don't care.
having standards is a problem now? gl
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RAGE QUIT LMFAO
🤣
Lol every time fresh and fit starts loosing an argument they say “you’re in your feelings”
no .they say that when people start making ad hominem attacks and name calling
The guy got mad and stormed off... Did we watch the same video?
People who doesn't listen would say that
Dear fellas this why its important to work extremely hard so you can have options to the best women. wow. A man can not be honest upfront
Exactly bro... Make good money and marry a middle class traditional girl not these angry feminists....
precisely, especially in a feminist Nation like Australia
Most people don’t need money to have options 🤷🏽
@@SHIVAMYadav-pw5uz your admitting u don’t get bitches
@@juliaiman1535 🤣🤣🤣🤣 which world you r living in
this make me laugh, they upload this video but what I can see in the comment they are the one getting roasted......EMOTIONAL DAMAGE🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't think they are as fragile as fnf to care what incels think... lol
@@megzasaurusrex clearly they are if they rage quit their own show😂
@@intune6877 that's true.....and maybe because they don't have amendment rights to talk freely about this matter, that's why they rage quit😂😂
@@intune6877 “rage quit” stick to videogames incel 🤣
this makes me so mad i cant even sit still in my seat because i keep chiming in LMFAO
I agree, fresh and fit is nuts.
Terrible interview. Wouldn’t let guest get their point through. Super unprofessional!!
A point shouldn't b 5 min long... Get 2 it
I think they told Kyle to switch up his point of view in the comercial break because he was agreeing with them
Kyle's bigger than the show itself. And there are several examples wheres he's done this. Uneducated at most
100%
Fresh n Fit wanted to say the truth, but didn't.
Women, with sexy pictures on IG, get men DMs saying, "Come out/fly out here and let me F*ck you. You'll get paid $."
Women with sexy IG pictures get prostitution offers from men!
"Fly out, let me fly you out, are all codes for "Yes, girl, come out here; we'll f*ck, and you'll get paid $."
Men on IG do not get prostitution offers from women.
Why? Because men and women are different and want different things.
Why would a man in a serious relationship with a woman desire his woman to get prostitution offers from other men?
Unless, that man is secretly her P*mp.
and when all was said and done, he states openly , "they were right" lol
@@rafeeqturner1458 Tell us you're an incel without actually telling us you're an incel
Lmaoo y’all rage quit
@ACRplayer30 have no idea what you’re talking about
They even blame their own loneliness on women xD
What makes you think they’re lonely?
They are faaaar from lonely my friend
U dont even know they are professional womanizers and gets laid a lot. That's why they have PHD in what women really thinks and wants from men in general.
its because men want exclusive sexual access to you the way you want exclusive resource access from him
Unprofessional as hell... SHAME,SHAME,SHAME
I wish we could see the dislikes….I bet it’s 4x the likes 😂😂
40x
I have the chrome extension that shows the the dislikes. They have 114 likes vs 426 dislikes
@@cavaridrodid0924 that’s awesome! I was pretty dam close.
@@mattstone9364 188 to 746 right now
There's an add on for chrome to get the dislike/like bar back.
Just look up dislike/like bar extension.
UA-cam never took my dislikes away.
I love how he just wants to be heard lol. He literally never responds to her points. That's not really a conversation.
Because he believes women are beneath men and it's quite obvious. The amount of people in this comment section agreeing with him is appalling. I'm just waiting for the day that all of these "dating coaches" who are single or aren't even hetero have to eat their words. It's going to be glorious.
Because her points where medicro. She was responding with emotions and not tryna understand the inner dynamics of how people mate with each other. U learn more wen u listen. Whether u don't like it or not
@@missfranniepants yeah, it's kind of amazing how he says she's responding emotionally when she was the only one speaking logically. I think the logic went over their heads and that's why they didn't have anything of substance to say.
@@MadmanPanda what did she say that was logical? "oh my god i want to vomit" shows she was talking off of feelings
@@MadmanPanda there was no logic in what she says, she agreed with Fit about men and women being DIFFERENT but then expects them to have the same standard, thats emotional. its like saying "no women is allowed to date a guy whos taller than her, because shes not tall" thats dumb, because women prefer taller guys and men prefer girls who are shorter than them. jackie's logic is basicly "girls shud not date taller guys than them"
The more modern relationships, the more divorces
They say women can't explore other options but men can. Dude, who do you think is dming her? All the dudes you tell to go cheat and explore other options are the same dudes giving your girl attention! These guys are creating their own problems!
Exactly! But their to damn slow to realize that.
The reason why is because Its easy for u to sleep with alot of women. I could go into details on it. N there not creating problems. There midigating problems. We know how women act wen u don't respect your man. U loose. U get on the defense of why's. Always shifting back to the man wen men not even getting not even half the attention as women. If a woman respected her man. She wouldn't even have an Instagram point blank. This is just another reason to justify not making sacrifices with men.
@@JizzyRizzy89 LOL learn how to spell before running your mouth on illogical BS.
Your first mistake was to assume the male species possess the mental capacity to so much as acknowledge this let alone understand it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@JizzyRizzy89 respect flows both ways. Both partners may be required to sacrifice for the health and longevity of the relationship. If you want your woman to get off instagram, what do you plan to sacrifice on your end? If you want her to respect you, you better be respecting her too. If you want her to be committed and monogamous, then you better be the same! Saying your gender automatically gives you privileges above the other is the definition of sexism.
And if these terms don't sound appealing then you will never find yourself in a long lasting, healthy relationship with a partner who respects and loves you. And if all you want is sex, then why do you even bother dating in the first place?
Some are saying that Kyle & Jackie were unprofessional towards Fresh & Fit, and that this was not proper radio etiquette. Well F&F’s views on women are fucking medieval and completely ridiculous. It’s not something one can take seriously, so how can you expect K&J to? There’s no way for them to NOT argue with F&F, especially Jackie, because their way of talking about women is just wack. They probably begged them to go on the show so Jackie can finally knock some sense into the bald-headed guy and his puppet.
20:44 is why that guy Kyle went off the way he did!
You see when speak the truth to women they get triggered...most men view women ..this way..they not gonna say it because we get cancelled..we getting called all those names..so that is why men do not even open up and just shut up...because once you start speakin facts..they come out on you with their feelings
They were unprofessional towards the guest. I don't blame them and I don't think F&F blame them. After hearing all those adds you know that the female dollar is at play and even if they had a cordial discussion it would be seen by the PC crowd as tacit acceptance of F&F views. It was good move on the host part to go 180 on them and virtue signal to those trap in the matrix that they got their back lol. After all why risk getting cancelled.
So it’s ok to treat people like shit is their views are stupid?
the majority of the world has these views
This dude cut Jackie off sooo many times, Jackie was very patient and profesional considering Kyle kept calling women "bitches" under his breath and the two men compared women to a car, a literal object. Meanwhile Kyle just sat there and said nothing to that misogynistic analogy, nobody did. She had every right to leave. She was in a call with sexist men, if she stood her ground, she's emotional. If shes explaining her point, shes talking too much... theres no winning.
If your agree with the guests beliefs, thats fair but dont complain when women dont want to date you or feel uncomfortable around you, you only have yourself to blame. Women will be thankful for making your red flags so obivous.
Why do people get in their feelings over the car analogy...that's all it is, an analogy
@@jayangus1655 Because it's dehumanizing considering women have been considered male property since the dawn of time.
@@Contrarian-v7p and that will never change
And also women never really considered man as lovers...they considered man as their source of incomes
@@worldyglobal2533 Why did they consider men as sources of income?
@@Contrarian-v7p becuase they were not allowed to go to work
But now they are crying when we consider them as s*x objects
Those guys are talking about 'those' 2% men when they say a man can have multiple women openly.
And there ARE a lot of women who accepts that, because they provide what they want in the end so, it's a good deal for them, marriage is a deal after all, specially if you have too much money.
The average man don't have those options anyways, most are invisible to the average women, they need to make something of themselves before they can even have a real chance.
This podcast was the most satisfying moment ive witnessed in a while
How so?
yes! lol
Funny how people who are stating their opinions, get personally insulted afterwards and you are satisfied with that. Shows incompetence lmao
Yeah seeing their emotional behaviour was seriously satisfying.
They are just part of the fascist garbage media, anything truthful triggers them
Fresh and fit.
Ewww this comment section is FULL of Fresh & Fit fans. So freaking gross 💀
Stay mad lol
cope lol
You’re gross keep crying
slam dunk Jackie and Kyle...one of the few occasions someone has pointed out the deep mysogny on which FnF and other youtube bros act on...
Imagine if Myron got to the “fat piece of shit lose weight rant.” Kyle would’ve gone mad, not knowing that might have been the best advice anyone could give him.
He DEFINATELY would've rage quitted XD
aRe YoU bOdY sHaMiNg Me ?
He probably would've turned blue instead of red
There's a huge difference between telling someone to lose weight and then ranting on them being a "fat pos": one is trying to help someone and the other is just being a dick. Myron's just doing the latter.
Those poor Australians 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
They got fucked up to the point they just pulled their power plug 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
The poor Australian men there. Even worse than America which is really saying something.
@@chuntong3541 imagine being married to a drunk sailor 24/7 lmao
@@selvamani1973-p7b I feel bad for them but at the same time the women there act that way only because the men allowed them to. Men as a collective needs to raise our standards and not F anything that moves
Fresh and Fit always use the same lines, same deflection tactics, same lame ass analogies.
He refused to give the host a straight answer as to why a man can be on socials but a woman cannot if they are in a relationship. Women may get MORE attention online, but men are still getting attention (as shown in the stupid graphic). If you are in a secure relationship there should be no reason to make such a one sided rule. Instagram is a social platform, most people use it for catching up with friends/family, running businesses, networking etc. Moreover, if you do not like your girl to post bikini pics online, then you should not be dating a girl that does so in the first place.
"if you do not liek your girl to post bikini pics online, then you should not be dating a girl that does in the first place." THAT IS HIS WHOLE POINT. FOR HIS IDEAL MATE, SHE CAN'T HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA. THAT'S HIS PREFERENCE. You solved your own issue.
duh you shouldn't be dating her that's what he been saying, that's why they're mad because they don't like the standards cant you hear?
your slow brain does not understand that he is a messenger, so he's being blunt about it. in reality him or other men wont even say nothing. we will either fu*k you and leave you.
or leave you alone altogether and not consider you an option. have you wondering why you wasn't picked.
@@MackJoseph lol! I was about to say that.
@@mkzzzzzzzzzz1 That may be what you took from it but that’s not what he said lol and if he actually felt that way it’s very simple to say “i prefer to date girls who aren’t on social media”… that’s understandable. We don’t need his flawed charts, analogies, and stats to understand that.
She’s single divorced twice. She should be heeding Myron’s advice, not sniping at him. She has depression issues and no kids while aging out fast. Unreal. She is so unaware.
Emotional unprofessional radio clowns.....
HAAHAHAHA! That old man speaking about the other guys being childish while throwing a huge fit like a child. SMFH
"Speak up Kyle, it's like you're" was the trigger word.
It was basically, "Speak up against them; it's like you agree with them"...
then he had to be like a little slave and start cursing out the guests they invited.. what a unproffesional radio
@@lunchboxsupreme4758 Yep, he chose his career over standing by what he knows to be true...
I swear every misogynist has 2 brain cells, maybe he just thinks for himself and doesn’t just agree with every word that those two bozos say 🤯🤯
Trust me, Kyle is a bloke who says exactly what he wants on air, without censoring it. A quick google search can tell you that. Kyle is a ‘shock jock’ for a reason - he’s got no fear of cancel culture and nor should he. If he called these boys clowns it’s because that’s exactly what he thought.
@@teganceebohm7668 There wouldn't be people calling and saying "I was scared because it seemed like you were agreeing with them" if he was truly someone who wasn't afraid of cancel culture.
Even with all the "shock jock" antics, he still toes the line.
"Got no fear" definitely doesn't describe how he quickly switched up when his co-presenter said "Not all men think like this. Kyle, you don't (think like this) speak up, because it's like you're (agreeing with them)".
Not only did she speak for him but it was essentially a warning ie. You better not agree with them.
Kyle’s lines of ‘I’m sick of you mate asking to finish, you’re long boring answers that are the exact same answers each time’ now have iconic status, and if they don’t, well they bloody well should
That Kyle dude is too feminine can’t control is emotion
Being that fat is horrible for your testosterone
Unhinged comment
He is your tipical simp that caters to women, the simp that women agree with but don't respect behind closed doors
Ah, just like men who decide to kill women for rejecting them... Or punch walls because their sport team lost... Or have to create entire ideologies to justify getting dumped. Anger is literally an emotion and men are way more given to act on it.
@@Contrarian-v7p you’re making no sense
HIGHLY UNPROFESSIONAL! Ya'll are grownups and ya'll can't even keep your emotions separate from a conversation.
It’s funny though cause a woman I went on date with last year didn’t want to see me again because I wasn’t financially stable lol… She wanted to be with a man who made more or as much as her. Money is good of course, but that doesn’t bring happiness.
It’s okay for a woman to have financial standards. As a man, a woman has to look a certain way before you even approach her and that’s fair. A woman knows her goals in life and she may want to stay home with the children…and for that he needs to be able to support a lifestyle. Why would a woman want to waste time dating a man who is not financially stable-that type of man shouldn’t be dating in the first place. Men always want the most attractive woman they can get before they even consider anything else about her….I won’t date a man who isn’t financially stable and has less than me….why would I??? I won’t be happy being the breadwinner.
I love that he kicked their a**’s off the show. They’re so rude , dismissive to women and especially black woman. So glad someone FINALLY got them together and gave them a taste of their own medicine. 👏🏾
Jackie is a white woman. He didn't dismissed anyone. It's just rude to cut people off wen their talking. I bet u wouldn't cut off the judge wen they're talking. Unless u wanna lose your rights.
The fact I have daughters this worries me so much I really hope mom's teach their boys this is not the way
How about you focus on your daughter’s instead and teach them how to be real feminine women, but it will tough since you can’t stay out of other people’s business you can’t give what you don’t have
@@OwnGrid I hope you are being sarcastic coz you're also in her business about her daughters, lol the jokes.
@@kimsandy7869 I’m not a women and maybe that make no difference to you, but in reality it make all the difference
@@OwnGrid but you a noisy ninja..it's 6.7 k comments and you telling someone else what to worry about....how about you focus on some 800 numbers to get you some help
Men adapt to women. Women have the monopoly in the dating market. So teach your daughters to be better.
F&F: finishes answering question and stops talking.
Jackie O: has a rebuttal
F&F: you need to let me finish, if you're asking me a question let me finish.
Lmfao F&F are the lowest of the lowest caliber of males I've ever witnessed in my life.
no she kept interrupting him before he finished with the question with a rebuttal , then when he challenged the rebuttal she would interrupt him again before he could finish his point
Kyle and Jackie O lost the debate.
13:08 your partner is “totally secure with it” because he doesn’t want to hear the backlash from his super feminist girlfriend… I guarantee you he would rather not have you post those bikini pics!
Nah I used to be blue pilled and people like that actually believes in that delusion that men and women are the same they women can do what men can do. They have to go through hell before they realize the truth.
Do you know her partner personally?? Did he tell you that or is that just some made up bullshit coming out from your eyeballs?
Really embarrassing for y’all. The rage quit makes y’all look like children
And thats really all about trust. Just bc you know how a guy thinks & they send dms to theses women does mean that they're gonna reply. But not having an insta all together bc they're insecure is a red flag 100%
Can I ask? How does is this good for a relationship?
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I just want to understand. Why would I be insecure, if I don't like the person I'm dating doing this?
It’s a conversation. Why aren’t the host allowed to respond? They keep saying let me speak, why doesn’t he let them speak. Even when he has spoken for several minutes, she still can’t comment. It’s just ridiculous. Glad she kicked him off.
There response was redundant and long as hell
he has an enormous ego. i also noticed how every time she made a good point he resorts to laughing and calling her “emotional”. hes so far gone lmao
Kyle didn’t agree with Fresh and Fit but he could see where they were coming from on some points
A broken clock is right twice a day.
The "well here we go" when he starts talking is the absolute funniest thing ever
the hosts representing oz looked stupid.Yikes.
The dichotomy of their demeanors was hilarious.
Which ones?