He was talented in college. College isn't the same as the NFL where everybody is a top athlete. You can't just run around and play backyard football like in college because guess what, the players that couldn't make the NFL aren't there to be ran around.
he had one of the best wide out corps in college football, a great O-line, and one of the best offensive minded coaches at the time. Insert Random Johnny College Kid into that system and you will have similar numbers as Johnny Football.
What do you define as rich? Also they weren’t saying that Johnny wasn’t well off, they were lying that he was the he was apart of some major oil tycoon to justify him doing all the things he was doing in college. Also he said himself he was broke as shit in college. Unless you saw Johnnys family coming to school in McLaren, they were probably upper middle class at best.
Wow the replies to this are insane. Guys I literally graduated high school in 2012 one year after Johnny. I’m not just guessing, I 100% know his family and that they’re were loaded. It’s hilarious to see people argue with me who probably have never stepped foot in Kerville.
@@TheFrostbite324- I agree that upper middle class isn’t “rich” but for a whole lot of people it is very wealthy. As far as him being “broke” in college, well that was probably because his parents had him on a budget and said no when he wanted something completely unnecessary to his stay at A&M. And most people in the US don’t have parents that can afford to help with college expenses.
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It's really telling that no NFL team wanted to touch this guy after Cleveland released him. He sucked so hard and had such a poor work ethic that teams wouldn't even entertain putting him on their roster.
I hyped this dude up so much coming out of A&M I was so convinced he’d be a stud in the nfl. Come to find out id be so so wrong. I’ve never hyped up a college QB since
I wouldn't call it a waste of talent, the talent really wasn't there at the professional level. The partying didn't help, but the bottom line is that he wasn't cut out for the NFL.
Nah dude was overrated even in college, most people knew his skill and lack of work ethic wasn't gonna transfer to the NFL. I almost had a heart attack when I thought my Cowboys were gonna be dumb enough to draft him 😅
I would believe his NFL comp would be someone like Taylor Heinicke. However, when he was drafted in the first round, everyone imagine him being Patrick Mahomes before Patrick Mahomes. There is no way to not disappoint.
I caught that clip of Ryan Leaf's criticism of Netflix....yeah, how is it nobody from the Cleveland Browns or people who played with him at Texas A&M don't show up, not his coaches, not his teammates, nobody gives any other POV on his time playing
Even if he wasn't an irresponsible party animal, his game would've never translated to the pros. His whole career at A&M was him playing backyard heroball who pulled off ridiculous plays with receivers like Mike Evans going against mid competition.
This is what happens when you have talent,but no character. His parents should have taken him to Sunday school with the same intensity that they took him to football games.
Johnny is actually a good dude. I was one of the owners of the discord for the zappers in FCF and we got to talk with him and Al the other players. Actually a decent dude just doesn’t care about football
I had a boyfriend who always said he would fall flat on his face one day. Because of his arrogance of shenanigans, and how he acted like he was better than everyone else. . I think that's the Texas A&M. Being in Aggie is a BIG thing in Texas. Again, the upper middle class men. His a Nacisst like a former boss I had who went to A&M, but it all comes to an end very quickly...You'renot better then anyone, you had a talent , and you misused it thinking your above the law,and you weren't!!
I’d argue the biggest waste of talent in NFL history would be either Jamarcus Russell or even Lawrence Phillips. Those dudes were supremely GIFTED. Johnny Manziels athletic ability doesn’t even really standout amongst the average NFL QB
He didn’t work out in the nfl for one reason. He wasn’t a good quarterback. He played backyard football. That style works in high school. Even at the college level you can have some success but usually not on a consistent basis. TAMU lost six regular season games in his two years. For every Alabama that style beats, it will lose to a Missouri. That style does not work very well in the NFL. You can’t just wing it and survive in the league.
The Missouri team he lost to was 5th ranked at the time and they didn't lose to any non-ranked opponents, two of those losses they had over 40 points. Johnny Manziel was a very very talented quarterback, he didn't have the strongest arm, but his touch and placement was ridiculous. Also, he had the athleticism but most importantly, unprecedented ball carrier vision, he was a bust because he didn't watch film, work on his weaknesses such as his overreliance on going for home run plays, but he had the ability to succeed, he wouldn't have been a projected top-5 pick in-spite of his extreme red flag character concerns.
I disagree…Jamarcus Russell is the biggest waste of talent ever. JFF would’ve had a hard time in the pros because his play style wouldn’t have worked. Russell was just plain gifted physically but just decided he didn’t want to work at all. He legit could’ve been the GOAT.
Im not sure he’s as big a failure as people make him out to be…. I mean on the football field Johnny never lived up his own name, but when you think about it, what had happened in his career to convince you he was committed to football? Like theres a real chance Johnny Manziel is exactly who he wanted to be all along which would explain his decision making a lot
He was undersized, had an ok but certainly no cannon of an arm, he wasn’t running a 4.2 like Lamar Jackson and didn’t strike me as the brightest bulb, things required to understand a playbook and read defenses which which requires comprehension speed and visual spatial intelligence. His backyard brand of football doesn’t work in the NFL without superior athleticism and arm strength, skill sets he doesn’t process at the level needed to play at a high level. The Browns wasted a draft pick more so than him wasting his potential as a career journeyman.
Man, I’m wrong about players all the time. And QBs in particular. I never saw ANYTHING special about him at A&M. Just never understood the hype, especially leading into the 2014 NFL Draft. Like I said, I get it wrong a lot. I thought Joey Harrington and Cade McNown were going to be huge stars. Brady Quinn and Kyle Boller too. “Johnny Football” was one of the few times I’ve been right when it came to QBs coming into the league.
It comes down to 2 words missing in this equation….SELF DISCIPLINE! You can’t be an elite athlete in any sport without it. He had a chance in the palm of his hand to become an amazing athlete and he f****d it up. Point blank! That’s the end of the story. A cautionary tale of what not to do in the nfl.
If a sports psychiatrist could have turned Johnny around, man, that person would have free meals whenever Johnny might have continued in the NFL post Browns.
I'm from Hamilton and still have a Manziel ticats jersey because i thought it was hilarious. The ti cats are hilarious for claiming the rights to sign NFL players if they ever take the CFL route. They currently have first dibs on Tua 😂😂😂
Hey bro admits he f!cked up don't bring him down more I suppose he's trying to better himself more media for him probably going to cause more problems from a person that has kind mental illness as him no disprect but it's hard thank you
Maybe if he wasn’t on the Browns And Wasn’t On a disaster exuse of a Football team maybe he would’ve learned Behind a guy like Brady Maybe he would Be a good qb
Nice comparison. Leaf had a lot more NFL potential. His ego, drugs, and other issues just were his downfall. Being coachable is such a large part of succeeding at the top levels.
I wonder what would have happened if the NCAA threw the hammer down for the Autograph scandal instead of just a slap on the wrist. Maybe it would have shown him he can't get away with everything.... Ah who am I kidding he would still have probably sucked and probably still been drafted by the browns and made us more of a laughing stock than we already are.
I dont believe he was a bust had he had actual smart people around him. People who weren't afraid to tell him no. Tell him what to say and how. Dont be out over here, stay ya ass over there and study. Winston was a bust, but yet still playing with the Saints. Johnny was a bus that just couldnt get out of his own way. The problem just wasnt him alone, he had no guidance. Everyone wanted to talk about him, but nobody wanted to help him other than his dad. Johnny was that kid at cookouts that ran around annoying the shit out of everyone, but nobody would snatch his lil ass up n tell him either behave or catch an ass whoopin which would be worst case. You didnt want to see him hurt or dead. But if he didnt atleast get his life somewat together, it definitely would've been... the worst case. Next thing you know we'd be watching 30 for 30 The Tragic Life of Johnny Football Manziel
I don’t know if he was, but he looked just dumb and on top of that just immature. You can’t be a NFL qb if you don’t study and don’t understand how to run an offence.
Waste of nfl talent? Bruh. Johny was a great nfl player and deserves the hall. He had no help from his brown teammates. Johny would throw perfect passes but they would be dropped a lot.
He wasn't that physically talented, in my opinion. I'm not into these "fun, exciting" guys. I'm not interested in watching bozos like this and Tebow. I like my athletes to be athletic and gifted.
This is a false narrative. Johnny Manziel was not an NFL talent, he didn't have the arm talent, the speed or athleticism to hang in the NFL. He was the product of hype and being on a very good team. As a Browns fan my heart sank when they drafted him bc I knew a sub 6 foot QB without the skill for the NFL would be cooked in tbe league.
Didn't have the arm talent? He had more than enough to get by, it wasn't mahomes level, but he had the accuracy for it to not be an issue. As for speed and athleticism, even after his atrocious combine, every scout was still saying he was next level when it came to his mobility, and pocket presence. Physically, he had all the tools to succeed in the NFL, albeit in a very unorthodox way, with some scouts saying he had the best playmaking ability and instincts they had seen. Also, let's not forget that the Browns had Josh Gordon suspended for most of the year, and were still 7-4 at one point with Brian Hoyer as their QB. I think if Manziel had the maturity, and lack of mental health issues, combined with better circumstances he would have been very succesful.
He was talented in college. College isn't the same as the NFL where everybody is a top athlete. You can't just run around and play backyard football like in college because guess what, the players that couldn't make the NFL aren't there to be ran around.
Thank you 👍🏾 for speaking FAX! This dude is meat riding Manziel too hard😂
he had one of the best wide out corps in college football, a great O-line, and one of the best offensive minded coaches at the time. Insert Random Johnny College Kid into that system and you will have similar numbers as Johnny Football.
He looked slow in the nfl
@@matthewtaylor1927yeah just go beat a number 1 nick Saban team with random jonny kid
I went to high school with Johnny. He 1000% came from one of the richest families in the Texas hill country. The false info in this video is crazy.
That was a narrative that was not true. He was not in the riches family
What do you define as rich? Also they weren’t saying that Johnny wasn’t well off, they were lying that he was the he was apart of some major oil tycoon to justify him doing all the things he was doing in college. Also he said himself he was broke as shit in college. Unless you saw Johnnys family coming to school in McLaren, they were probably upper middle class at best.
@@TheFrostbite324 yea I have no doubt he was well off lol
Wow the replies to this are insane. Guys I literally graduated high school in 2012 one year after Johnny. I’m not just guessing, I 100% know his family and that they’re were loaded. It’s hilarious to see people argue with me who probably have never stepped foot in Kerville.
@@TheFrostbite324- I agree that upper middle class isn’t “rich” but for a whole lot of people it is very wealthy. As far as him being “broke” in college, well that was probably because his parents had him on a budget and said no when he wanted something completely unnecessary to his stay at A&M. And most people in the US don’t have parents that can afford to help with college expenses.
Johnny is possibly one of the best examples of not being able to get out your own way and it’s sad to see
Hey just wanted to tell you that Plz read everything btw Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ love you so much that God would send his one and only son Jesus Christ to die on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead 3 days later Get a relationship with God and Jesus and confess for your sins and Live for Christ and not the world and allow God and Jesus into your hearts. God and Jesus are trying to save you from going to hell.
HELL IS NOT A JOKE. Jehovah and Jesus are all of our Gods and Lords and Saviors✝️✝️✝️✝️SPREAD THE WORD✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️Pray to Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ get saved today ✝️✝️✝️✝️SPREAD THE GOSPEL✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
It's really telling that no NFL team wanted to touch this guy after Cleveland released him. He sucked so hard and had such a poor work ethic that teams wouldn't even entertain putting him on their roster.
he also didn’t want to play
@@Davo2times- Sure he did. If he didn’t want to play he would not have been In Cleveland for two years. He didn’t want to work. Big difference.
@@jpmnky he literally was wasted the night before a game with no way back. that’s not “not wanting to work” that’s not wanting to play
@@Davo2timesIf that was true of not wanting to play, he wouldn't have been an active free agent for 2 years lol
I hyped this dude up so much coming out of A&M I was so convinced he’d be a stud in the nfl. Come to find out id be so so wrong. I’ve never hyped up a college QB since
I knew he was going to be a busy immediately because his off the field antics and lack of discipline etc
@@b3yourself91 I was young back then and I didn’t know better but I learned to never hype up a college QB again
@@Giants1995 There's always a bust. 2 years ago it was Zach Wilson taken 2nd overall.
@@Giants1995So was Johnny Football
I wouldn't call it a waste of talent, the talent really wasn't there at the professional level. The partying didn't help, but the bottom line is that he wasn't cut out for the NFL.
Nah dude was overrated even in college, most people knew his skill and lack of work ethic wasn't gonna transfer to the NFL. I almost had a heart attack when I thought my Cowboys were gonna be dumb enough to draft him 😅
I would believe his NFL comp would be someone like Taylor Heinicke. However, when he was drafted in the first round, everyone imagine him being Patrick Mahomes before Patrick Mahomes. There is no way to not disappoint.
I honestly look at him more like a Russ Wilson. I feel like the talent was there he just never worked on all the other fundamentals of being a QB
He could’ve been a good player if he focused more on the sport than being a celebrity.
I caught that clip of Ryan Leaf's criticism of Netflix....yeah, how is it nobody from the Cleveland Browns or people who played with him at Texas A&M don't show up, not his coaches, not his teammates, nobody gives any other POV on his time playing
He got lucky Mike Evans is there catching his wild throws in college
I wonder what his career would be like if he took the sport seriously
He is the example of being your own worst enemy
Facts
Sad but it's true
Even if he wasn't an irresponsible party animal, his game would've never translated to the pros. His whole career at A&M was him playing backyard heroball who pulled off ridiculous plays with receivers like Mike Evans going against mid competition.
Really well said.
When was the SEC every mid competition? What conference considered high level in college? I agree with your take on how he played thou
This is what happens when you have talent,but no character. His parents should have taken him to Sunday school with the same intensity that they took him to football games.
Perfect example that talent alone isn’t enough to be great
Johnny is actually a good dude. I was one of the owners of the discord for the zappers in FCF and we got to talk with him and Al the other players. Actually a decent dude just doesn’t care about football
I had a boyfriend who always said he would fall flat on his face one day. Because of his arrogance of shenanigans, and how he acted like he was better than everyone else. . I think that's the Texas A&M. Being in Aggie is a BIG thing in Texas. Again, the upper middle class men. His a Nacisst like a former boss I had who went to A&M, but it all comes to an end very quickly...You'renot better then anyone, you had a talent , and you misused it thinking your above the law,and you weren't!!
He was basically a shorter, lighter and white version of Jamarcus Russell 2007 all over again in the nfl that is
Great video! I enjoyed watching!
I’d argue the biggest waste of talent in NFL history would be either Jamarcus Russell or even Lawrence Phillips. Those dudes were supremely GIFTED. Johnny Manziels athletic ability doesn’t even really standout amongst the average NFL QB
He didn’t work out in the nfl for one reason. He wasn’t a good quarterback. He played backyard football. That style works in high school. Even at the college level you can have some success but usually not on a consistent basis. TAMU lost six regular season games in his two years. For every Alabama that style beats, it will lose to a Missouri. That style does not work very well in the NFL. You can’t just wing it and survive in the league.
The Missouri team he lost to was 5th ranked at the time and they didn't lose to any non-ranked opponents, two of those losses they had over 40 points. Johnny Manziel was a very very talented quarterback, he didn't have the strongest arm, but his touch and placement was ridiculous. Also, he had the athleticism but most importantly, unprecedented ball carrier vision, he was a bust because he didn't watch film, work on his weaknesses such as his overreliance on going for home run plays, but he had the ability to succeed, he wouldn't have been a projected top-5 pick in-spite of his extreme red flag character concerns.
I disagree…Jamarcus Russell is the biggest waste of talent ever. JFF would’ve had a hard time in the pros because his play style wouldn’t have worked. Russell was just plain gifted physically but just decided he didn’t want to work at all. He legit could’ve been the GOAT.
0:35 THEY DIDNT MENTION EVERYTHING?!?!
Im not sure he’s as big a failure as people make him out to be…. I mean on the football field Johnny never lived up his own name, but when you think about it, what had happened in his career to convince you he was committed to football? Like theres a real chance Johnny Manziel is exactly who he wanted to be all along which would explain his decision making a lot
Bro thought he was bigger than the NFL
It’ll always be funny to me that Jerry Jones would've picked Manziel if it wasn't for his son
And that’s exactly why Jerry’s son needs to be in charge.
People don’t understand upper middle class in Texas is basically RICH 😅😅
College success doesn’t transfer into the NFL, and it’s why I don’t even watch college garbage
I still think that Mike Evans made Johnny Football...
He was undersized, had an ok but certainly no cannon of an arm, he wasn’t running a 4.2 like Lamar Jackson and didn’t strike me as the brightest bulb, things required to understand a playbook and read defenses which which requires comprehension speed and visual spatial intelligence.
His backyard brand of football doesn’t work in the NFL without superior athleticism and arm strength, skill sets he doesn’t process at the level needed to play at a high level.
The Browns wasted a draft pick more so than him wasting his potential as a career journeyman.
Manziel was too slow for the nfl and wasn’t a structure quarterback.Even if he studied i dont think he would have been good.
Say what you will about Baker Mayfield, but at least he's a *LIKEABLE* guy. That's something Johnny Football will never have.
Johnny Manziel: Biggest waste of talent in NFL history.
Todd Marinovich: Am I nothing to you?!
That arrest stat tho :o
Man, I’m wrong about players all the time. And QBs in particular. I never saw ANYTHING special about him at A&M. Just never understood the hype, especially leading into the 2014 NFL Draft. Like I said, I get it wrong a lot. I thought Joey Harrington and Cade McNown were going to be huge stars. Brady Quinn and Kyle Boller too. “Johnny Football” was one of the few times I’ve been right when it came to QBs coming into the league.
I don't care how good you are at anything but if you don't have discipline you ain't nobody. - Mike Tyson
It comes down to 2 words missing in this equation….SELF DISCIPLINE! You can’t be an elite athlete in any sport without it. He had a chance in the palm of his hand to become an amazing athlete and he f****d it up. Point blank! That’s the end of the story. A cautionary tale of what not to do in the nfl.
This guy had potential to save the Browns franchise, but if it wasn’t for his ego
Only 2 years in the NFL
If a sports psychiatrist could have turned Johnny around, man, that person would have free meals whenever Johnny might have continued in the NFL post Browns.
I'm from Hamilton and still have a Manziel ticats jersey because i thought it was hilarious.
The ti cats are hilarious for claiming the rights to sign NFL players if they ever take the CFL route. They currently have first dibs on Tua 😂😂😂
Hey bro admits he f!cked up don't bring him down more I suppose he's trying to better himself more media for him probably going to cause more problems from a person that has kind mental illness as him no disprect but it's hard thank you
He had Mike Evan’s enough said
The doc said he had 75 td’s in one season
Maybe he realized that he wasn't that talented at the pro level
HE IS A CLOWN WITH ALL THIS SUCCESS.
Pretty sure that Josh Gordan had more talent and got to use even less of it
Maybe if he wasn’t on the Browns And Wasn’t On a disaster exuse of a Football team maybe he would’ve learned Behind a guy like Brady Maybe he would Be a good qb
Plus I thin k if he would have been drafted by anyone besides Cleveland he would have been ok
Then you're insane. Yeah, the Browns front office was terrible at the time, but he was immature. That's why no one else picked him up
What a massive BUST! 💀💀💀
Johnny Leaf.
Nice comparison. Leaf had a lot more NFL potential. His ego, drugs, and other issues just were his downfall.
Being coachable is such a large part of succeeding at the top levels.
I wonder what would have happened if the NCAA threw the hammer down for the Autograph scandal instead of just a slap on the wrist. Maybe it would have shown him he can't get away with everything.... Ah who am I kidding he would still have probably sucked and probably still been drafted by the browns and made us more of a laughing stock than we already are.
Waste of nfl talent? Bruh. He was a great nfl player. He had no help in the browns. He deserves the hall. Seriously.
So much false info in this video i dont even know where to start. Yall used to put out good content.
Talent means physical abilities and stats.
Johhny didnt have talent.
I dont believe he was a bust had he had actual smart people around him. People who weren't afraid to tell him no. Tell him what to say and how. Dont be out over here, stay ya ass over there and study. Winston was a bust, but yet still playing with the Saints. Johnny was a bus that just couldnt get out of his own way. The problem just wasnt him alone, he had no guidance. Everyone wanted to talk about him, but nobody wanted to help him other than his dad. Johnny was that kid at cookouts that ran around annoying the shit out of everyone, but nobody would snatch his lil ass up n tell him either behave or catch an ass whoopin which would be worst case. You didnt want to see him hurt or dead. But if he didnt atleast get his life somewat together, it definitely would've been... the worst case. Next thing you know we'd be watching 30 for 30 The Tragic Life of Johnny Football Manziel
Don’t go Texas A&M
Well him and/or Ryan Leaf.
Johny wasn’t really as talented and was overhyped
1) small
2) slow by nfl standards
3) shouldve been a 4th or 5th rounder
Biggest waste of oxygen is more like it.
I don’t know if he was, but he looked just dumb and on top of that just immature.
You can’t be a NFL qb if you don’t study and don’t understand how to run an offence.
The original lamar
This guy isn’t even close to the most talent wasted, not even close. Not the most talented QB, nothing
Waste of nfl talent? Bruh. Johny was a great nfl player and deserves the hall. He had no help from his brown teammates. Johny would throw perfect passes but they would be dropped a lot.
I think his talent was overrated.
Manziel...biggest waste of talent in NFL history, huh? Ever heard of Ryan Leaf?
He wasn't that physically talented, in my opinion. I'm not into these "fun, exciting" guys. I'm not interested in watching bozos like this and Tebow. I like my athletes to be athletic and gifted.
Johnny football
His offensive line was that good and yet he still couldn't help scrambling. He was mentally limited.
Johnny manziel wasn't actually that talented
He was and is a nobody …..
Yawn
How is he the biggest waste of talent ever? Have you never heard of jaMarcus Russell?
Stop using the word “literally” lol
This is a false narrative. Johnny Manziel was not an NFL talent, he didn't have the arm talent, the speed or athleticism to hang in the NFL. He was the product of hype and being on a very good team. As a Browns fan my heart sank when they drafted him bc I knew a sub 6 foot QB without the skill for the NFL would be cooked in tbe league.
Didn't have the arm talent? He had more than enough to get by, it wasn't mahomes level, but he had the accuracy for it to not be an issue. As for speed and athleticism, even after his atrocious combine, every scout was still saying he was next level when it came to his mobility, and pocket presence. Physically, he had all the tools to succeed in the NFL, albeit in a very unorthodox way, with some scouts saying he had the best playmaking ability and instincts they had seen. Also, let's not forget that the Browns had Josh Gordon suspended for most of the year, and were still 7-4 at one point with Brian Hoyer as their QB. I think if Manziel had the maturity, and lack of mental health issues, combined with better circumstances he would have been very succesful.
Old head cadinals fans would still rather have him over Kyler cause hes white LMAO
Waste of nfl talent? Bruh. He was a great nfl player. He had no help on the browns. He deserves the hall. Like seriously.