I can name seven quarterbacks better than brady, manning breese rodgers marino Kelly young farve. Top ten isn’t a stretch. Don’t take team accomplishments and his lucky bounces as skill as a qb
@@MacNCheezeWhizI’ll give this to TB12: he’s a “clutch, ice in his veins” type of QB. Comes through in the post-season; late in a game that counts you wanna give Brady the ball. That said: you’re correct. He’s far from the best player to ever play the position. Mannging. Rodgers, Favre, Marino, Brees, & many more. Just because he has 7 championships on a team sport doesn’t mean he’s the best individual QB. I mean, what if Stafford had been the Pats’ QB during the dynasty years with all those fantastic defenses? If Manning or Rodgers were in his place? They’d have at LEAST six rings from that team.
As a Bills fan he is on the mount Rushmore of dudes I absolutely despise, but also respect the hell out of their accomplishments. It's a profound sense of hatespect.
Its not easy to win that many rings, dont get me wrong, but the job Belichick is "great" at is coaching the best QB in history by miles. I can coach Tom Brady to an 8 win season! lol
@@-Comet. If it weren't for Belichick? Without Brady, Pats wouldn't even have chance playing against Charges in playoff. In 2008, without Brady, they couldn't beat Chargers and Steelers, even with Randy Moss.
How is it possible when Belichick doesn't know much more about offense than Patricia does? BTW, his defense was a PAPER TIGER, you should have seen it in last 3 seasons.
@IDontBuyIt50 His defense couldn't hold in 4th quarters (the reason he couldn't win sh1t without Brady), *that is the case since his time in Giants.* In 1991 SB, his defense played less 20 minutes, and *collapsed completely though played only 6 mintues.* the missing FG saved Giants. Here is a list of the collapses of the "goat" coach's defense in last 2 minutes in big games (AFCCG and SB): 2002 SB against Rams (Brady saved him); 2004 SB against Panthers (Brady saved him); 2007 AFCCG against Colts; 2008 SB against Giants; 2012 SB against Giants; 2015 SB against Seahawks (Brady’s 28 points and Pete Carrol saved him); 2018 SB against Eagles; 2019 AFCCG against Chiefs (Brady saved him).
THANK YOU! im sick of watching sports commentators act like they dont know he had a career before the patriots and that it couldnt have only been brady.
He had a losing record w/ the Browns and w/o Brady. idk, he's still one of the greatest coaches ever but I think the next 2-3 years will show us whether or not the greatness of the Patriots dynasties was more on BB or TB. It's not black-and-white like that but still. The last 3 years have made the case fairly compelling towards Brady in that equation but even I would agree that Bill has earned a couple more to prove himself.
Brady didn't shutdown the Rams offense. Brady didn't win two SB's with the Giants. The Pats dynasty was based on a great QB and a great coach who could keep a team around him. Brady could win moving on to a stacked team but look how long it lasted. The Pats dynasty worked because both coach and QB were great, but there is no doubt that in a totally pass whacky era, forged by rule changes, you can't win without a good QB, and they are hard to find.
Thank you Brandon. Bill is truly greater than a lot of people give him credit for now. Means a lot seeing you put your Patriots hate aside for this. Hope your Broncos cook... er... Do well this season.
It's actually wild the disrespect belichick is getting right now. Brady is great in his own right, but Belichick is the one that gave him virtually a top 10 defense (and multiple top 3 defenses) almost every year of Brady's career in New England. No other QB has had that luxury except maybe Montana. Football is a team sport and there were many times throughout Brady's career where he was selling but it was Belichek's defenses that bailed him out (and vice versa).
It's a little wild but it's not entirely unwarranted. Man has a losing record w/o the GOAT QB. That adds some pressure to his legacy. A losing record as a HC when you don't have the greatest quarterback to ever play the game starting for you does threaten your ability to continue being considered the GOAT head coach.
@@samsizer2919 Tom Brady is great. He is one of the best Qbs of all time and I will say Belichick wouldn't have been as successful without someone like him. But I think you can say the same thing vice versa. One thing Brady had more of compared to his great contemporaries was the best team support. He was often given more short fields, turnovers, leads, and time of possession because of his defenses. Plus, he arguably had the best special teams of all time. He had a perennial all-pro/ pro bowler in Matthew Slater and for almost 20 years he had two of the greatest kickers of their generation with Vinatieri and Gostkowski; this is just surface level shit. None of that is because of Brady. Football is the ultimate team sport and it would be foolish to give Brady all that credit when it's Belichick that created that team's foundation. And besides he won 2 super bowls without Brady as the defensive coordinator to one of the greatest defenses of all time.
Everyone always talks about Patriots top 10 defenses as if 9 other teams don’t that every year including the Patriots all 3 seasons since he left but no one ever mention the bad offenses with no weapons Brady carried in NE all those years
@IDontBuyIt50 I’ve been disrespecting Belichek since 2007 because of all the false credit he got from the Brady hating media/fans I like Rex Ryans take on how easy it would be to coach Brady and how many super bowl he would have with him at QB he took Mark Sanchez to back to back AFC title games Belicheck can’t win a wild card playoff gm wo Brady?
@@davis2k1234 yea he only had arguably the greatest tight end of all time and a receiver patriots fans say should be a HOF but also wasn't good at the same time lol. But yes when he had a great oline but receivers that weren't something to write home about, Brady was able to elevate them because he's that great. However, I also think it's hilarious that the Patriots were able to start a QB that didn't start a game since high school and still went 11-5. Then went 3-1 when Brady decided to deflate his balls. Maybe that's because the team was very good already. When Rodgers and Manning didn't play, their teams would collapse.
As a Giants fan, this dude basically gift wrapped us all our SBs, so I can’t hate him at all. Also I saw this clip of him literally walking around Giants stadium, crying as he remembers all the good memories he has there, can never hate someone like that lol
That Brady interview is why I love the guy. Some he's still honestly humble and admits to the myriad of things out of your control when becoming great. Put that up to a Josh Rosen (or tons of other QBs) interview about how he's gonna make every team realize it was a mistake not to draft him. To learn you must first admit lacking knowledge, to defecit
I love the way he handles the press. Everything that should remain in-house stays there. However, ask him a question about the shift to dedicated long snappers and he'll talk happily and animatedly about it for an hour. The guy loves football. Having him coach against your team is not a pleasant experience but I love to hear the guy talk about the game.
You really have to respect Brady for the fact that even though he’s basically the consensus greatest QB of all time now, he’s still humble enough to say that he was lucky to have Belichick instead of acting like Belichick is nothing now that he doesn’t have him. As much as I hated the guy taking away opportunities from other teams for twenty years, there are some things you can’t help but love about him. 💯
Brady didnt really have a choice but to say how lucky he was to have BB. He knows he would look like a fool doing so that it was not even in the realm of thought to possibly undermine BB's contributions to the patriots dynasty. BBs contributions were pretty obvious
@@dominicharris5489 it’s the way Brady said it that made it sound genuine to me. Even if it was obvious enough that it’s the only thing he ever could’ve said.
So much respect for this man. It's funny what happens with success to others at the time but at the end of the day, he is truly a pioneer of this game that we love and honestly i do think if he had it his way, he would die on the sideline. Hell of a mind and hell of a coach, like him or not, the nfl needed coaches like him and I'll never think otherwise. Great video, Perna!
I am still in awe of the game plan he and Brian Flores drafted for that Super Bowl against the Rams. That they nearly shutout such a potent offense is bewildering to me. I cannot help but respect the absolute hell out of this guy as a coach.
There's also beating the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. The Seahawks at that time were at their peak and a real possibility of a dynasty for that team was there. They just crushed Denver to win the championship the year before. That was a big accomplishment.
Triple team Steve Smith on super bowl vs panthers. Lol he wasn't let him beat him. His giants d bs 9ers in 80s too. Beating greatest show on turf , low scoring game
As a patriots fan Bill is without a doubt my favorite coach of all time in any sport the dude cares about nothing else but his craft takes every bullet not only to him but to his team and his players salute to the Goat of Goats
@@pathutchison7688 Pat Mahomes my favorite player right now been on him since his first year Truly gonna be the 2nd best to ever do it You guys got the Dynasty torch now rooting for y’all Keep Greatness going 🙌🏾
@@pathutchison7688 I am an immigrant, not fan of any team. I am a fan of Bill Parcel (the first 2 NFL games I watched are 1991 NFCCG and SB, in which *Parcel's offense played 39 and 40+ minutes, that saved Belitard's defense* ), and Belitard shamelessly took credits from his mentor and Brady. Unbelievably that even after 3 years, there are still so many id10ts in Boston who believe Belitard had magic wand.
@@anthonysantana2000 yea. Mahomes is hard to dislike. He’s so genuine and always balls out. He could very well be the best to ever do it when all is said and done. Hard to say for a Steeers fan.
Bill improved Cleveland year over year, got them to 11-5 and a playoff win, then the team fell apart when Modell decided to announce they were moving. In New England he took over and won 3 super bowls in his first 5 years with the team. He won his first AFC Championship game, the 2nd toughest game of that first run, with Bledsoe at QB. Tom Brady was not yet Tom Brady in these first years, either. Once Tom left, he took the Pats to the playoffs with rookie Mac Jones throwing 7 times in a game. What did Tom do? Well he left New England on the cusp of a retooling to join a super team with a good coach that almost made the playoffs the year before with a QB that threw 30 interceptions. Who had the harder job? Bill. Sorry Bill didn't get a "2020 Bucs" equivalent at QB.
To be fair, he went 5-11 in his first season with NE and it's not like the roster got improved all that much, especially on the offensive side, in 2001 when Brady stepped in. "Tom Brady was not yet Tom Brady in these first years, either." How? How was he not Tom Brady yet? Dude won three SBs with no true #1 receiver......he spent 6 years from 2001-2006 throwing to solid receivers like Troy Brown, David Patten, David Givens, Jabar Gaffney, etc. The fact that Brady was still finishing in the Top 10 or even 5 at times yearly in many passing statistics kind of showed that he already WAS pretty damn good. This is what people don't get about Brady: he already was a fantastic QB.......we just got to see his true potential when he had the weapons to play with. And I don't think Brady deserves shit for going to TB. For starters, TB finished with a 7-9 record......let's stop acting like this team was some super team just because ESPN said so and Arians was a decent coach. They had good prospects but a lot of raw young talent......these guys frequently credit Brady for giving them the push they needed to be better. Brady left because he felt disrespected by Bill, simple as that. He wanted to stay but Bill didn't care so Brady said Fuck it and left. It's not like Belichick was giving Brady weapons to play with either.......the Patriots' receiving corps in 2019, outside of Edelman, was not good and Brady had to elevate those guys to play better. He was 43 at the time.....he still had enough left to win a SB. Why not go to a young blooming team like TB and try for a SB instead of carrying the Patriots on his back for another season? I don't know......just sounds like youre speaking with bitterness. And notice I didn't shit on Belichick either. Because I think the whole Brady vs Belichick argument is dumb but I'm not going to fault Brady for going to TB. He didn't do it for money, he did it on principle and I respect that.
@bananaman5668 You realize in 1995 the owner literally announced he was terminating the Cleveland Browns? THAT's why they went from 3-1 to 5-11. After it was announced, the team stopped really trying.
Belichick won his first Super Bowl against Dan Reeves and his last Super Bowl against Sean McVay. Reeves was 44 years older than McVay, and had been out of coaching for 14 years by the time McVay became a head coach.
Give me a break. With so much resource, Parcel still built a top 10 offense with a RB of 1500+ yards. Belitard simply a garbage on offense, and he couldn't win anything without offense.
@@TK-CRYPTIC Use that thing on your shoulders, do you think Belidiot knew more about offense than Patricia does? You should have seen enough from last 3 season, Belichick is Belitard without offense, and he had no clue how to build offense.
@@williamli6200 I would say that seeing how in 2021 with a rookie Mac the patriots had the 6th best scoring offense in the league with mediocre wrs yes I would say he knows a little bit more than Patricia
@@TK-CRYPTIC 180 points in 4 games against 3 worst teams in the league. (I don't deny Belichick's greatness against lousy offense) BTW, do you know 1-year wonder? it happens when opponents don't have the videos on the starting QB. See the falling of Mathew Stafford? The same happened in 2008 with super easy schedule.
Great episode, Perna!!! You should respect the Legion Of Boom for what they did to Peyton Manning and your Broncos, in the Super Bowl. It was an absolute clinic on how to throttle a record setting offense...lol
I think people forget his stint in Cleveland as a head coach and the ammicable job he did there, not to mention that when Brady went down for the year he got Matt Cassel rolling and barely missed out on the playoffs. Brady defo helped but to say that without him ol Bill would be nothing really glosses over how much he has accomplished. As a Steelers fan i still hate him but respect his accomplishments.
You''ve got something good in these ballzdeep vidz. Honestly, they're far better than your daily dives.. Keep it prestigious, don't over saturate with it, and you'll be at 1mil+ subs in a yr.
I still remember before the 2005 AFC championship game how all of us Steelers fans were so excited that the Broncos beat the Patriots for us, and all of the Broncos fans were excited that the Steelers beat the Colts for them
Drafting LT was lucky, but Bill knew exactly how to position him to make him the legend he became. Think of Bellichecks other LBs back then. Carl Banks, Pepper Johnson, Brady Van Pelt, Harry Carson, Gary Reasons, Brian Kelly. Stunning role call
In short, if he was your head coach you'd absolutely love him. Great job Perna. Stuff like this makes every other commentary you make that much more valuable.
As a lifelong Raiders fan I can’t stand that you’re a Broncos fan. Saying that I love your channel and your take on many situations. Keep up the great videos and Go Raiders! Seriously, you’re one of the best out there. I’m shocked you don’t have more subscribers. Let’s get this man to 1 Million.👍🙌
Tom and Bill are equally responsible for the success in my opinion. They may have had a title or maybe even a couple without each other, but even that is debatable. Most of those championships were a combination of Belichicks defensive genius and Bradys clutchness in key moments.
I personally have never let any of the noise or lack of *immediate* post-Brady playoff success dampen The Sith Lord's stature in my mind's eye. I was born well after those Giants Superbowls but it doesn't take a lot of searching for history to understand his critical role on those teams, particularly that Superbowl XXV like you mentioned. The fact that he GOT Touchdown Tom to work with was just incredibly fortunate and they both parlayed that into the greatest Empire football's ever seen. Each decade in NFL history is usually associated with one (sometimes two) teams' dominance. The Pats had TWO decades all to themselves. As a Raiders fan I hate that the Pats' run STARTED with us, but... well, it had to be somebody I guess.
One of the funniest stories I heard about Belicheck was that he was feared for being such a huge disciplinarian when he was the Giants DC but he would let Lawrence Taylor get away with breaking all kinds of rules, one day LT was significantly late for practice and one of the players said hey coach why is it LT never gets yelled at or fined when he comes in late but I do, all Belicheck said to him was, because your not Lawrence Taylor.
Why I respect Bill so highly is also why I don't want to sit down and have a beer with him, unless I'm ready to buckle up for a long in depth conversation about long snappers. This man lives and breathes football strategy. That's it. I think he loves his wife, children, and his dog. His strategy in managing the media has been simple, effective, and never changing his entire career. There's no surprises, no bullshit, no social media influencer presence. You just get Bill. This guy who is obsessed with football and has created a nearly unrivaled legacy in the process. Compare that to Tom Brady, and I think there has to be at least some clear justification as to why some of us might pick Bill.
Another big point for Belichick being such an effective coach is going 11-5 without Tom Brady immediately after his record breaking MVP season the year before. The closest comparison would be Peyton Manning missing the 2011, where the Colts went from per annealer contenders to the worst team in the league. The Pats missed the playoffs in 08 not because they didn’t have Brady as much as it was a flukey season when an 11-5 team didn’t qualify for a wild card spot.
that 2008 was not as good as the record suggested and despite having a historically easy schedule lost to every decent team they faced, which is why they had no tiebreakers and missed the playoffs, not just a "fluke." the patriots were maybe one play away from being the greatest team of all time, 11 wins with no playoff berth is not an accomplishment. matt cassel was also much better than people give credit for, he made a pro bowl with the chiefs after leaving NE. if anything going 11-5 could be considered a fluke as it was his first year without brady having a winning record with the patriots.
Care to take me on with that assessment? I'm an M.I.T Grad and I can statistically prove the horrendous loss of production and value in 2008 without Brady. Go ahead try and take me on.
I have no idea if you’ll even see this comment, but I’d love to see a continuation of this video that just shines a light on players/coaches/teams that were able to consistently beat prime Bilichick and how they did it.
I'm an M.I.T Grad MS/LDT and my field of expertise is forensic statistical data as it pertains to value and worth and if you put me in a Court of Law (Which I am accustomed too) my opening statement would be "Bill Belichick is an abysmal and horrific 21 games under .500 .475 Win% coach in 130 career games when Tom Brady isn't his starting QB. Tom Brady without Bill Belichick is over .700 , SB MVP 2020 and Runner Up as league MVP 2021 leading the league at age 44 in TD's,Completions, Yards and in 3 years after Bill > An Astronomical 13,000 yards passing,130 TD's. I'm just in the infant stage of getting started if anyone cares to embarrass themselves and take me on Belichick in New England before Brady 5-13 .277 Win % /After Brady in 2001 Week 3 to the SB 14-3 .823 Win% With Brady as his QB Belichicks win % rises an incredible 66.3% in value. I would eviscerate,pulverize nd annihilate anyone on this issue. > To an absolute,undisputed,unmitigated mathematical certainty. 103,000 yards passing and 730 TD's don't lie.... For Context without Brady in New England Pats QB's have combined for a total of 34 TD's in 2 seasons. Is there a mentally challenged idiot that cares to take me on? And like I said i am just getting started.
Check out bill bowman a retired NHL coach, born in 1933 started coaching in 1956 and kept doing so until 2002. He is personally the best coach in the USA, I was born in 1979 and this guy was coaching only 4 years after bill belichick was born. Completely blows belichick out of the water if they are talking about the best coach in America.
I cannot be convinced that he isn’t the GOAT HC. He can do more with less talent than anyone ever and that should never be forgotten. Why do you think players and coaches often do worse outside of NE? Because Belichick is who puts them in position to succeed
Everyone talks about how pedestrian Bills coaching was in Cleveland from 91-95, yet they fail to mention that Bill was the man who assembled the team that became the Raven’s. A team that won the Super Bowl in the 01-02 season. Bill assembled the coaching staff and was responsible for drafting many of the dominant defensive players on that team. It is a criminal shame that that little fact gets lost in the fog of history! Had Baltimore retained Bill during that transition it is quite likely.
Yeah, firing a coach who then goes on to have (much more) success elsewhere usually doesn't turn out well. But, if you're Baltimore, things could've been worse. The Ravens at least won two Super Bowls, which is more than a lot of other organizations can say.
Bill Belichick, is a Dark Lord of the Sith. So powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to bend NFL rules, to create wins. He has such a knowledge of the Dark Side, that he could even keep his players entering free agency, from leaving. He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was not winning any more Super Bowls, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, his former quarterback Tom Brady left for another franchise, and he won a Super Bowl without him. Ironic, he can win a Super Bowl with Tom Brady, but not by himself.
The first 3 superbowls it was mainly defense that got them there, especially the first 2. Brady game managed well and didn’t make back breaking mistakes at the wrong times. After 05-06 it was Brady lol.
Hey buddy you are embarrassing . Tom Brady's performance in his 2nd SB win over Carolina in 2003 is still regarded as one of the greatest SB performances by a QB in history. He bailed out Bill Belichick and his awful defense in that game. You should delete your comment it makes you look mentally challenged.
Belichick cannot form a winner by himself as far as Super Bowls but I’ve often said that 2020 team wasn’t a 7 win club they should’ve won 3 games it was cam newton past his primes prime , damere Byrd was about the only deep threat, and the third string defense. Belichick as the gm ehhhhh different topic but him as a coach, he’s kept this team out of th cellar
Honestly the real answer for me is if belichek hadn't taken a chance drafting Brady and if Brady ended up getting drafting elsewhere the year he got drafted neither of them would've been as successful as they were together. A pure definition of the perfect storm
I see the tradition of the media not understanding the crucial role Ernie Adams played all these years is continued by the new media. Ernie is a savant, and Bill childhood friend, who left a career making millions and millions as a financial analyst when Bill got his head coaching job.
I will admit is was a game against the Broncos that cause me to respect Belichick. When he called the knee down in the end zone to trade two points for better field position, I don’t believe any other coach could have made the call and it was a good call but counter intuitive
As a Pats fan I agree with mostly everything you said except, that we lost to you guys in the most important games... I remember us always doing well against the Colts
I'm a Jets fan. Watching the Jets play New England twice a season is basically Ohio St. - Michigan. It's heavily one-sided but losing to belichick is that devastating EVERY. YEAR., it doesn't matter if the rest of season great & get into the playoffs. Belichick is that respected. Especially the series sweep is the ultimate pain every year. 🤣
"I do hate that Belichick is the reason Bills fans are without a Lombardi" Uhhh.... I think there's another team that also comes to mind. About 3 times.
HAte the patriots but love the Belichick. Yes He and Brady were a symbiotic relationship but he had the sense to draft the gangly dork and he dressed him as a rookie so he couldnt be signed by another team. Dude knows football and is neat...
It like people forget that Belichick also put together and coached a shitload of top ten defenses during the New England Dynasty. I hate his guts but the man understands that having a bunch of superstars didn’t matter as much as a team full of fundamentally strong players who understand their assignments. I’d rather have 11 good players on the the field than 3 superstars I’m paying so much that my other 8 guys are scrubs.
I think something being discounted in the discussion of whether or not belichick was great is the late teens patriots defenses. They were really good units
I've long said that when Belichick retires (if he isn't carried out of Foxboro feet first), he should be commissioned as the lead historian and research fellow for the NFL. Nobody has a mind for the game like Belichick does. He'd pore over classic NFL Films stuff and have liner notes for their entire video library in a month, give or take.
The tour guide on Nantucket Island mentioned that Bill has a house there. Nantucket, the guide told us, is where the billionaires look down on the millionaires.
As an eagles fan I despise him for robbing us of that 04 Super Bowl. I also respect him since the birds had another shot at him in 17, and it ended up being one of the most entertaining games in Super Bowl history. I have grown to appreciate his grumpy persona too. As someone who works in media I adore the way he handles press conferences. He is an iconic figure in nfl lore and I hope he retires in a successful way. Normally coaches retire, resign, or lose their jobs because of a lack of success but I think Bill wants to walk into the sunset leaving NE in a good place. I am concerned about his decision making with BOB being hired as their OC . That dude is like the angel of death for NFL qb’s
He was instrumental in developing Brady. Brady had good but not great numbers in college. Can we honestly sit here and say that Brady would have won seven Super Bowls if he'd been drafted by, say, the Lions or Browns? The whole Bill v Tom debate just reeks of hindsight bias
It’s insane how quickly people forget these days. I just can’t believe in 2023 we’re even discussing how great Bill is. Two decades of dominance isn’t proof enough?
These are really cool. Keep up the good work. There is a QB with the #12 that I hate but respect. However, I will not ask for that because we don't want your head to explode
Calling Brady "a top 10 QB" is classic passive aggressive Perna.
I was like….
“WHOA PERNA!!! EEEEEASY!!”☝️🤚
Bruh Bill Belichick found Tom Brady & was indistinguishable 💪💯🔥
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I can name seven quarterbacks better than brady, manning breese rodgers marino Kelly young farve. Top ten isn’t a stretch. Don’t take team accomplishments and his lucky bounces as skill as a qb
@@MacNCheezeWhizI’ll give this to TB12: he’s a “clutch, ice in his veins” type of QB. Comes through in the post-season; late in a game that counts you wanna give Brady the ball.
That said: you’re correct. He’s far from the best player to ever play the position. Mannging. Rodgers, Favre, Marino, Brees, & many more. Just because he has 7 championships on a team sport doesn’t mean he’s the best individual QB.
I mean, what if Stafford had been the Pats’ QB during the dynasty years with all those fantastic defenses? If Manning or Rodgers were in his place? They’d have at LEAST six rings from that team.
As a Bills fan he is on the mount Rushmore of dudes I absolutely despise, but also respect the hell out of their accomplishments. It's a profound sense of hatespect.
Steelers fan here i hate but, kinda respect him. Still think he cheats.
Why do you respect a person who took the credits he didn't deserve?
Its not easy to win that many rings, dont get me wrong, but the job Belichick is "great" at is coaching the best QB in history by miles. I can coach Tom Brady to an 8 win season! lol
As a Chargers fan, I'm with ya. 11-3 vs chargers, 3-0 in playoffs. Chargers have at least 1 superbowl win if it weren't for belichick
@@-Comet. If it weren't for Belichick? Without Brady, Pats wouldn't even have chance playing against Charges in playoff.
In 2008, without Brady, they couldn't beat Chargers and Steelers, even with Randy Moss.
Colin Cowherd claiming Belichick is nothing without Brady confirms that Belichick is one of the best coaches of all time.
i mean Cowherd has said that it cant be hard to be a manager in the MLB cause half the league is dominican so dude is a bum
Facts
So We all agree here
How is it possible when Belichick doesn't know much more about offense than Patricia does?
BTW, his defense was a PAPER TIGER, you should have seen it in last 3 seasons.
@IDontBuyIt50 His defense couldn't hold in 4th quarters (the reason he couldn't win sh1t without Brady), *that is the case since his time in Giants.*
In 1991 SB, his defense played less 20 minutes, and *collapsed completely though played only 6 mintues.* the missing FG saved Giants.
Here is a list of the collapses of the "goat" coach's defense in last 2 minutes in big games (AFCCG and SB):
2002 SB against Rams (Brady saved him); 2004 SB against Panthers (Brady saved him); 2007 AFCCG against Colts; 2008 SB against Giants; 2012 SB against Giants; 2015 SB against Seahawks (Brady’s 28 points and Pete Carrol saved him); 2018 SB against Eagles; 2019 AFCCG against Chiefs (Brady saved him).
As a patriots fan, I salute you. I honestly miss losing to the broncos back in 2015. It’s better than being .500
As a Broncos fan, touché dude.
@@Hidingfrompeopleyour name makes sense
@@Hidingfrompeople what team do you follow? From the grumpy reply I’d say Jets?
@@Hidingfrompeople well at least you’re an intelligent New York sports fan
As a browns fan, please stop whining it could be so much worse
THANK YOU! im sick of watching sports commentators act like they dont know he had a career before the patriots and that it couldnt have only been brady.
He has been 36-38 without Brady
@@thhndy Yea and he had turd QB otherwise
Look at easy interception Bledsoe
He had a losing record w/ the Browns and w/o Brady. idk, he's still one of the greatest coaches ever but I think the next 2-3 years will show us whether or not the greatness of the Patriots dynasties was more on BB or TB. It's not black-and-white like that but still. The last 3 years have made the case fairly compelling towards Brady in that equation but even I would agree that Bill has earned a couple more to prove himself.
Brady didn't shutdown the Rams offense. Brady didn't win two SB's with the Giants. The Pats dynasty was based on a great QB and a great coach who could keep a team around him.
Brady could win moving on to a stacked team but look how long it lasted.
The Pats dynasty worked because both coach and QB were great, but there is no doubt that in a totally pass whacky era, forged by rule changes, you can't win without a good QB, and they are hard to find.
Brady’s first two super bowls were won by defenses. Go back and look at his stats those years
Going balls deep into Belichick...never thought I'd hear this from Perna.
That’s something I never thought I’d hear at all 😂
Thank you Brandon. Bill is truly greater than a lot of people give him credit for now. Means a lot seeing you put your Patriots hate aside for this. Hope your Broncos cook... er... Do well this season.
You mean the id10t who doesn't even know more about offense than Patricia does?
It's actually wild the disrespect belichick is getting right now. Brady is great in his own right, but Belichick is the one that gave him virtually a top 10 defense (and multiple top 3 defenses) almost every year of Brady's career in New England. No other QB has had that luxury except maybe Montana. Football is a team sport and there were many times throughout Brady's career where he was selling but it was Belichek's defenses that bailed him out (and vice versa).
It's a little wild but it's not entirely unwarranted. Man has a losing record w/o the GOAT QB. That adds some pressure to his legacy. A losing record as a HC when you don't have the greatest quarterback to ever play the game starting for you does threaten your ability to continue being considered the GOAT head coach.
@@samsizer2919 Tom Brady is great. He is one of the best Qbs of all time and I will say Belichick wouldn't have been as successful without someone like him. But I think you can say the same thing vice versa. One thing Brady had more of compared to his great contemporaries was the best team support. He was often given more short fields, turnovers, leads, and time of possession because of his defenses. Plus, he arguably had the best special teams of all time. He had a perennial all-pro/ pro bowler in Matthew Slater and for almost 20 years he had two of the greatest kickers of their generation with Vinatieri and Gostkowski; this is just surface level shit. None of that is because of Brady.
Football is the ultimate team sport and it would be foolish to give Brady all that credit when it's Belichick that created that team's foundation. And besides he won 2 super bowls without Brady as the defensive coordinator to one of the greatest defenses of all time.
Everyone always talks about Patriots top 10 defenses as if 9 other teams don’t that every year including the Patriots all 3 seasons since he left but no one ever mention the bad offenses with no weapons Brady carried in NE all those years
@IDontBuyIt50 I’ve been disrespecting Belichek since 2007 because of all the false credit he got from the Brady hating media/fans I like Rex Ryans take on how easy it would be to coach Brady and how many super bowl he would have with him at QB he took Mark Sanchez to back to back AFC title games Belicheck can’t win a wild card playoff gm wo Brady?
@@davis2k1234 yea he only had arguably the greatest tight end of all time and a receiver patriots fans say should be a HOF but also wasn't good at the same time lol.
But yes when he had a great oline but receivers that weren't something to write home about, Brady was able to elevate them because he's that great. However, I also think it's hilarious that the Patriots were able to start a QB that didn't start a game since high school and still went 11-5. Then went 3-1 when Brady decided to deflate his balls. Maybe that's because the team was very good already. When Rodgers and Manning didn't play, their teams would collapse.
As a Giants fan, this dude basically gift wrapped us all our SBs, so I can’t hate him at all. Also I saw this clip of him literally walking around Giants stadium, crying as he remembers all the good memories he has there, can never hate someone like that lol
Every great coach has a humble beginning
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Lol I found a hidden video
i found a hidden comment.
*GOD*
Is the hidden video perna taking a Doritos bath because I found that little gem.
When is the Tom Brady video coming?????
Hidden?
That Brady interview is why I love the guy. Some he's still honestly humble and admits to the myriad of things out of your control when becoming great. Put that up to a Josh Rosen (or tons of other QBs) interview about how he's gonna make every team realize it was a mistake not to draft him. To learn you must first admit lacking knowledge, to defecit
I love the way he handles the press. Everything that should remain in-house stays there. However, ask him a question about the shift to dedicated long snappers and he'll talk happily and animatedly about it for an hour. The guy loves football.
Having him coach against your team is not a pleasant experience but I love to hear the guy talk about the game.
You really have to respect Brady for the fact that even though he’s basically the consensus greatest QB of all time now, he’s still humble enough to say that he was lucky to have Belichick instead of acting like Belichick is nothing now that he doesn’t have him. As much as I hated the guy taking away opportunities from other teams for twenty years, there are some things you can’t help but love about him. 💯
Brady didnt really have a choice but to say how lucky he was to have BB. He knows he would look like a fool doing so that it was not even in the realm of thought to possibly undermine BB's contributions to the patriots dynasty. BBs contributions were pretty obvious
@@dominicharris5489 it’s the way Brady said it that made it sound genuine to me. Even if it was obvious enough that it’s the only thing he ever could’ve said.
@@BrendanPappas hmm i feel dat
As a Giants fan I love Belicheck, they ain't got SHIT ON THE GIANTS
So much respect for this man. It's funny what happens with success to others at the time but at the end of the day, he is truly a pioneer of this game that we love and honestly i do think if he had it his way, he would die on the sideline. Hell of a mind and hell of a coach, like him or not, the nfl needed coaches like him and I'll never think otherwise. Great video, Perna!
I am still in awe of the game plan he and Brian Flores drafted for that Super Bowl against the Rams. That they nearly shutout such a potent offense is bewildering to me. I cannot help but respect the absolute hell out of this guy as a coach.
There's also beating the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. The Seahawks at that time were at their peak and a real possibility of a dynasty for that team was there. They just crushed Denver to win the championship the year before. That was a big accomplishment.
Triple team Steve Smith on super bowl vs panthers. Lol he wasn't let him beat him. His giants d bs 9ers in 80s too. Beating greatest show on turf , low scoring game
Thank you for making this, it’s so true. They needed each other, they both were the reason for all their success
That Ravens AFC divisional game is one of the all time great Patriot wins. That’s the “Your Love” by The Outfield game
As a patriots fan Bill is without a doubt my favorite coach of all time in any sport the dude cares about nothing else but his craft takes every bullet not only to him but to his team and his players salute to the Goat of Goats
How can he be even great when he doesn't even know offense more than patricia, and his defense was PAPER TIGER that couldn't close games?
As a Patriots fan, seems about time for you to drop them and get on the Chiefs bandwagon. Like a true Patriots fan. lol. I’m only kidding by the way.
@@pathutchison7688 Pat Mahomes my favorite player right now been on him since his first year Truly gonna be the 2nd best to ever do it You guys got the Dynasty torch now rooting for y’all Keep Greatness going 🙌🏾
@@pathutchison7688 I am an immigrant, not fan of any team. I am a fan of Bill Parcel (the first 2 NFL games I watched are 1991 NFCCG and SB, in which *Parcel's offense played 39 and 40+ minutes, that saved Belitard's defense* ), and Belitard shamelessly took credits from his mentor and Brady.
Unbelievably that even after 3 years, there are still so many id10ts in Boston who believe Belitard had magic wand.
@@anthonysantana2000 yea. Mahomes is hard to dislike. He’s so genuine and always balls out. He could very well be the best to ever do it when all is said and done. Hard to say for a Steeers fan.
Bill improved Cleveland year over year, got them to 11-5 and a playoff win, then the team fell apart when Modell decided to announce they were moving.
In New England he took over and won 3 super bowls in his first 5 years with the team. He won his first AFC Championship game, the 2nd toughest game of that first run, with Bledsoe at QB. Tom Brady was not yet Tom Brady in these first years, either.
Once Tom left, he took the Pats to the playoffs with rookie Mac Jones throwing 7 times in a game.
What did Tom do?
Well he left New England on the cusp of a retooling to join a super team with a good coach that almost made the playoffs the year before with a QB that threw 30 interceptions.
Who had the harder job?
Bill. Sorry Bill didn't get a "2020 Bucs" equivalent at QB.
Cope.
To be fair, he went 5-11 in his first season with NE and it's not like the roster got improved all that much, especially on the offensive side, in 2001 when Brady stepped in.
"Tom Brady was not yet Tom Brady in these first years, either."
How? How was he not Tom Brady yet? Dude won three SBs with no true #1 receiver......he spent 6 years from 2001-2006 throwing to solid receivers like Troy Brown, David Patten, David Givens, Jabar Gaffney, etc. The fact that Brady was still finishing in the Top 10 or even 5 at times yearly in many passing statistics kind of showed that he already WAS pretty damn good. This is what people don't get about Brady: he already was a fantastic QB.......we just got to see his true potential when he had the weapons to play with.
And I don't think Brady deserves shit for going to TB. For starters, TB finished with a 7-9 record......let's stop acting like this team was some super team just because ESPN said so and Arians was a decent coach. They had good prospects but a lot of raw young talent......these guys frequently credit Brady for giving them the push they needed to be better.
Brady left because he felt disrespected by Bill, simple as that. He wanted to stay but Bill didn't care so Brady said Fuck it and left. It's not like Belichick was giving Brady weapons to play with either.......the Patriots' receiving corps in 2019, outside of Edelman, was not good and Brady had to elevate those guys to play better. He was 43 at the time.....he still had enough left to win a SB. Why not go to a young blooming team like TB and try for a SB instead of carrying the Patriots on his back for another season?
I don't know......just sounds like youre speaking with bitterness. And notice I didn't shit on Belichick either. Because I think the whole Brady vs Belichick argument is dumb but I'm not going to fault Brady for going to TB. He didn't do it for money, he did it on principle and I respect that.
Exactly
@bananaman5668 You realize in 1995 the owner literally announced he was terminating the Cleveland Browns? THAT's why they went from 3-1 to 5-11. After it was announced, the team stopped really trying.
It's harder to find a replacement for a HOF QB than it is to pick a team that had everything but a QB.
“Can i dress as the devil?” Classic Bill
That's Bill witty and sarcastic 😂
Belichick won his first Super Bowl against Dan Reeves and his last Super Bowl against Sean McVay. Reeves was 44 years older than McVay, and had been out of coaching for 14 years by the time McVay became a head coach.
Give me a break. With so much resource, Parcel still built a top 10 offense with a RB of 1500+ yards.
Belitard simply a garbage on offense, and he couldn't win anything without offense.
@@williamli6200dude is definitely a jets fan 😂😂🤡
@@TK-CRYPTIC Use that thing on your shoulders, do you think Belidiot knew more about offense than Patricia does?
You should have seen enough from last 3 season, Belichick is Belitard without offense, and he had no clue how to build offense.
@@williamli6200 I would say that seeing how in 2021 with a rookie Mac the patriots had the 6th best scoring offense in the league with mediocre wrs yes I would say he knows a little bit more than Patricia
@@TK-CRYPTIC 180 points in 4 games against 3 worst teams in the league. (I don't deny Belichick's greatness against lousy offense)
BTW, do you know 1-year wonder? it happens when opponents don't have the videos on the starting QB. See the falling of Mathew Stafford? The same happened in 2008 with super easy schedule.
Great episode, Perna!!! You should respect the Legion Of Boom for what they did to Peyton Manning and your Broncos, in the Super Bowl. It was an absolute clinic on how to throttle a record setting offense...lol
Too soon
Brandon “History starts when I’m born” Perna
I think people forget his stint in Cleveland as a head coach and the ammicable job he did there, not to mention that when Brady went down for the year he got Matt Cassel rolling and barely missed out on the playoffs. Brady defo helped but to say that without him ol Bill would be nothing really glosses over how much he has accomplished. As a Steelers fan i still hate him but respect his accomplishments.
I was waiting on this video it should be good. I respect him as he really is a historian when it comes to Football.
You''ve got something good in these ballzdeep vidz. Honestly, they're far better than your daily dives.. Keep it prestigious, don't over saturate with it, and you'll be at 1mil+ subs in a yr.
I still remember before the 2005 AFC championship game how all of us Steelers fans were so excited that the Broncos beat the Patriots for us, and all of the Broncos fans were excited that the Steelers beat the Colts for them
Shoutout to everyone who saw when I uploaded the wrong thumb lol
Brandon "oh God, he's not retiring until he gets that coaching record" Perna
Drafting LT was lucky, but Bill knew exactly how to position him to make him the legend he became. Think of Bellichecks other LBs back then. Carl Banks, Pepper Johnson, Brady Van Pelt, Harry Carson, Gary Reasons, Brian Kelly.
Stunning role call
In short, if he was your head coach you'd absolutely love him. Great job Perna. Stuff like this makes every other commentary you make that much more valuable.
As a lifelong Raiders fan I can’t stand that you’re a Broncos fan. Saying that I love your channel and your take on many situations. Keep up the great videos and Go Raiders! Seriously, you’re one of the best out there. I’m shocked you don’t have more subscribers. Let’s get this man to 1 Million.👍🙌
Tom and Bill are equally responsible for the success in my opinion. They may have had a title or maybe even a couple without each other, but even that is debatable. Most of those championships were a combination of Belichicks defensive genius and Bradys clutchness in key moments.
I personally have never let any of the noise or lack of *immediate* post-Brady playoff success dampen The Sith Lord's stature in my mind's eye.
I was born well after those Giants Superbowls but it doesn't take a lot of searching for history to understand his critical role on those teams, particularly that Superbowl XXV like you mentioned.
The fact that he GOT Touchdown Tom to work with was just incredibly fortunate and they both parlayed that into the greatest Empire football's ever seen. Each decade in NFL history is usually associated with one (sometimes two) teams' dominance. The Pats had TWO decades all to themselves.
As a Raiders fan I hate that the Pats' run STARTED with us, but... well, it had to be somebody I guess.
By far, one of the best cold openers... I rewind it 6x... I nearly died.
One of the funniest stories I heard about Belicheck was that he was feared for being such a huge disciplinarian when he was the Giants DC but he would let Lawrence Taylor get away with breaking all kinds of rules, one day LT was significantly late for practice and one of the players said hey coach why is it LT never gets yelled at or fined when he comes in late but I do, all Belicheck said to him was, because your not Lawrence Taylor.
As a Bills fan, he made my life hell every time we played against him up until recently. I gotta admit he’s a coaching genius tho
Why I respect Bill so highly is also why I don't want to sit down and have a beer with him, unless I'm ready to buckle up for a long in depth conversation about long snappers. This man lives and breathes football strategy. That's it. I think he loves his wife, children, and his dog. His strategy in managing the media has been simple, effective, and never changing his entire career. There's no surprises, no bullshit, no social media influencer presence. You just get Bill. This guy who is obsessed with football and has created a nearly unrivaled legacy in the process. Compare that to Tom Brady, and I think there has to be at least some clear justification as to why some of us might pick Bill.
The level of quality keeps going up. This channel will explode. I swear.
Lol, this makes my heart feel happy. Perna talking up Belichick, it starts small, next thing you know you'll be a Patriots fan too lol
Another big point for Belichick being such an effective coach is going 11-5 without Tom Brady immediately after his record breaking MVP season the year before. The closest comparison would be Peyton Manning missing the 2011, where the Colts went from per annealer contenders to the worst team in the league. The Pats missed the playoffs in 08 not because they didn’t have Brady as much as it was a flukey season when an 11-5 team didn’t qualify for a wild card spot.
Having an 11-5 season is not really a big achievement in football lol.
You're not wrong, but that's his only season w/ a winning record w/o Brady in NE.
that 2008 was not as good as the record suggested and despite having a historically easy schedule lost to every decent team they faced, which is why they had no tiebreakers and missed the playoffs, not just a "fluke." the patriots were maybe one play away from being the greatest team of all time, 11 wins with no playoff berth is not an accomplishment. matt cassel was also much better than people give credit for, he made a pro bowl with the chiefs after leaving NE. if anything going 11-5 could be considered a fluke as it was his first year without brady having a winning record with the patriots.
The Colts literally beat Manning in Denver a year later after they cut him they just intentionally tanked for Luck for 1 season
Care to take me on with that assessment? I'm an M.I.T Grad and I can statistically prove the horrendous loss of production and value in 2008 without Brady. Go ahead try and take me on.
Perna brining up the number 70 is quite fitting after week 3 of the 2023 season.
I have no idea if you’ll even see this comment, but I’d love to see a continuation of this video that just shines a light on players/coaches/teams that were able to consistently beat prime Bilichick and how they did it.
26:37 "Lost by about 70" Hmmm ironic line now, isn't it?
This is so nice to see in the sea of hot takes
You, Tom, urinatingtree and secret base do the best type of work
Video idea: Tom Brady. Make sure it's a collab with Barry McCockiner.
I'm an M.I.T Grad MS/LDT and my field of expertise is forensic statistical data as it pertains to value and worth and if you put me in a Court of Law (Which I am accustomed too) my opening statement would be "Bill Belichick is an abysmal and horrific 21 games under .500 .475 Win% coach in 130 career games when Tom Brady isn't his starting QB.
Tom Brady without Bill Belichick is over .700 , SB MVP 2020 and Runner Up as league MVP 2021 leading the league at age 44 in TD's,Completions, Yards and in 3 years after Bill > An Astronomical 13,000 yards passing,130 TD's.
I'm just in the infant stage of getting started if anyone cares to embarrass themselves and take me on
Belichick in New England before Brady 5-13 .277 Win % /After Brady in 2001 Week 3 to the SB 14-3 .823 Win%
With Brady as his QB Belichicks win % rises an incredible 66.3% in value.
I would eviscerate,pulverize nd annihilate anyone on this issue. > To an absolute,undisputed,unmitigated mathematical certainty.
103,000 yards passing and 730 TD's don't lie.... For Context without Brady in New England Pats QB's have combined for a total of 34 TD's in 2 seasons.
Is there a mentally challenged idiot that cares to take me on?
And like I said i am just getting started.
I was born in December of '75. It's nuts to me that Belichick has been coaching in the NFL since before I was born.🤯
Check out bill bowman a retired NHL coach, born in 1933 started coaching in 1956 and kept doing so until 2002.
He is personally the best coach in the USA,
I was born in 1979 and this guy was coaching only 4 years after bill belichick was born.
Completely blows belichick out of the water if they are talking about the best coach in America.
I didn't even get past the intro and had me rolling in laughter! "just do your job perna"
damn these are some well developed videos!! keep it up dawg
Brandon “My Broncos are 3-1 against Belichick in the playoffs” Perna
6:29 So Anton Chigurh isn't a fictional character, and he worked for the Colts before moonlighting as an assassin for a drug cartel.
Do Seahawks next, because as Broncos fans I want to see your analysis since we both hate them for similar reasons
oh man you should have mentioned Bill's insane love for Ed Reed. i've never seen him as over the moon for someone as Ed Reed.
Awesome mountain shirt brandon!!😁😁 Im from new england so youre REALLY representing today and i appreciate that!!😁😁👍👍
I cannot be convinced that he isn’t the GOAT HC. He can do more with less talent than anyone ever and that should never be forgotten. Why do you think players and coaches often do worse outside of NE? Because Belichick is who puts them in position to succeed
Did you lose a bet or something. I love that you have to say nice things about Bill. Long live the Hoodie!
That bit about writing a letter to Matt cassel’s mom is freaking hilarious !
I love these videos. Again... well done Perna!
He does deserve a lot of credit
No
@@Jooba1776Four in a row lmao
@@tsarXadam div championships?
He got maxed credit (card), but the bill has come due. Time to pay debt.
Everyone talks about how pedestrian Bills coaching was in Cleveland from 91-95, yet they fail to mention that Bill was the man who assembled the team that became the Raven’s. A team that won the Super Bowl in the 01-02 season.
Bill assembled the coaching staff and was responsible for drafting many of the dominant defensive players on that team. It is a criminal shame that that little fact gets lost in the fog of history! Had Baltimore retained Bill during that transition it is quite likely.
Yeah, firing a coach who then goes on to have (much more) success elsewhere usually doesn't turn out well. But, if you're Baltimore, things could've been worse. The Ravens at least won two Super Bowls, which is more than a lot of other organizations can say.
He's earned his place alongside George Halas, Don Shula, and some arguable 4th person on the NFL coaching Mount Rushmore.
I was lucky to be at the Broncos game in 2003 when the Patriots intentionally took a safety. Absolutely amazing gamesmanship.
Brandon ”i bet Belichick is a great lover” Perna
Bill Belichick, is a Dark Lord of the Sith. So powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to bend NFL rules, to create wins. He has such a knowledge of the Dark Side, that he could even keep his players entering free agency, from leaving.
He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was not winning any more Super Bowls, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, his former quarterback Tom Brady left for another franchise, and he won a Super Bowl without him. Ironic, he can win a Super Bowl with Tom Brady, but not by himself.
The first 3 superbowls it was mainly defense that got them there, especially the first 2. Brady game managed well and didn’t make back breaking mistakes at the wrong times. After 05-06 it was Brady lol.
Hey buddy you are embarrassing . Tom Brady's performance in his 2nd SB win over Carolina in 2003 is still regarded as one of the greatest SB performances by a QB in history. He bailed out Bill Belichick and his awful defense in that game. You should delete your comment it makes you look mentally challenged.
God this is such a good fucking series.
Please do this for the next 100 years.
Bill was on the sideline for every New York Football Giants SB win 🏆 😂 thank you Bill 😊
Congratulations. Head Coach Billy Sweatshirt was also sideline view of Philadelphia Eagles 🦅 SB win 🏆
The rule changes In the mid 2000’s were basically designed to destroy Belichicks defenses and he still had good to great D’s
Belichick has one of the best personalities while simultaneously having no personality lmfao. He's the king of dry humor in the NFL.
Belichick cannot form a winner by himself as far as Super Bowls but I’ve often said that 2020 team wasn’t a 7 win club they should’ve won 3 games it was cam newton past his primes prime , damere Byrd was about the only deep threat, and the third string defense. Belichick as the gm ehhhhh different topic but him as a coach, he’s kept this team out of th cellar
No joke about that Chandler Jones stiff arm, I hate the Raiders but I could still appreciate it, Mac Jones won't ever forget it lol
Honestly the real answer for me is if belichek hadn't taken a chance drafting Brady and if Brady ended up getting drafting elsewhere the year he got drafted neither of them would've been as successful as they were together. A pure definition of the perfect storm
Brady on the Bucs proved that he was winning with any team that drafted him
I see the tradition of the media not understanding the crucial role Ernie Adams played all these years is continued by the new media.
Ernie is a savant, and Bill childhood friend, who left a career making millions and millions as a financial analyst when Bill got his head coaching job.
I will admit is was a game against the Broncos that cause me to respect Belichick. When he called the knee down in the end zone to trade two points for better field position, I don’t believe any other coach could have made the call and it was a good call but counter intuitive
Gottyam this video is absolutely 👍🏼 incredibly well done and hilarious, typical Perna. I respect 🫡 grumpy old sweatshirt billy boy
Some of those Patriot's 2010s defenses were really really good. Even in 2019 when the offense (and Brady) sucked the defense was incredible
As a Pats fan I agree with mostly everything you said except, that we lost to you guys in the most important games... I remember us always doing well against the Colts
I'm a Jets fan. Watching the Jets play New England twice a season is basically Ohio St. - Michigan. It's heavily one-sided but losing to belichick is that devastating EVERY. YEAR., it doesn't matter if the rest of season great & get into the playoffs. Belichick is that respected. Especially the series sweep is the ultimate pain every year. 🤣
YOUR 2015 SB WIN WAS A RETIREMENT GIFT TO MANNNING!!!!!
"I do hate that Belichick is the reason Bills fans are without a Lombardi"
Uhhh.... I think there's another team that also comes to mind. About 3 times.
New favorite channel.
You’re seriously hilarious and I can’t get enough, brother.
HAte the patriots but love the Belichick. Yes He and Brady were a symbiotic relationship but he had the sense to draft the gangly dork and he dressed him as a rookie so he couldnt be signed by another team. Dude knows football and is neat...
It like people forget that Belichick also put together and coached a shitload of top ten defenses during the New England Dynasty. I hate his guts but the man understands that having a bunch of superstars didn’t matter as much as a team full of fundamentally strong players who understand their assignments. I’d rather have 11 good players on the the field than 3 superstars I’m paying so much that my other 8 guys are scrubs.
It’s wild to be here 6 months later with Belichek ousted and not picked up anywhere. An unceremonious end for a guy who loved the game
I think something being discounted in the discussion of whether or not belichick was great is the late teens patriots defenses. They were really good units
I've long said that when Belichick retires (if he isn't carried out of Foxboro feet first), he should be commissioned as the lead historian and research fellow for the NFL. Nobody has a mind for the game like Belichick does. He'd pore over classic NFL Films stuff and have liner notes for their entire video library in a month, give or take.
We need a " I hate him but I respect him" Tom Brady episode.
That'll never happen!
inb4 Perna does it and screenshots this comment and puts it in the video to spite me.
Thanks Brandon I love these long form videos
Small correction: on the intentional safety, the ball was snapped at the goalpost. The punter never touched it.
The tour guide on Nantucket Island mentioned that Bill has a house there. Nantucket, the guide told us, is where the billionaires look down on the millionaires.
As an eagles fan I despise him for robbing us of that 04 Super Bowl. I also respect him since the birds had another shot at him in 17, and it ended up being one of the most entertaining games in Super Bowl history. I have grown to appreciate his grumpy persona too. As someone who works in media I adore the way he handles press conferences. He is an iconic figure in nfl lore and I hope he retires in a successful way. Normally coaches retire, resign, or lose their jobs because of a lack of success but I think Bill wants to walk into the sunset leaving NE in a good place. I am concerned about his decision making with BOB being hired as their OC . That dude is like the angel of death for NFL qb’s
Wow that was a great video!
Bill: Is it against the rules?
Harbaugh: Well no, but it's petty af...
Bill: But is it AGAINST the rules???
He was instrumental in developing Brady. Brady had good but not great numbers in college. Can we honestly sit here and say that Brady would have won seven Super Bowls if he'd been drafted by, say, the Lions or Browns? The whole Bill v Tom debate just reeks of hindsight bias
Nice, very nice, im a Tom Brady hater and even a greater Bill hater, but you made art with that video 🎉
It’s insane how quickly people forget these days. I just can’t believe in 2023 we’re even discussing how great Bill is. Two decades of dominance isn’t proof enough?
Great video Perna 👏 well done sir 🍻
These are really cool. Keep up the good work. There is a QB with the #12 that I hate but respect. However, I will not ask for that because we don't want your head to explode
*good....goooooood....let the hate flow through you*
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