I absolutely love playing as Seofon, it took me a while to get used to him, but now he's one of my favorites! Have you tried any of the new sigils on the rest of the characters? Which characters do you think got the best new sigils?
Hi DarkHero, great video here. Just wanted to let you know that there was a reddit post showing that Seofon has a few secret combos, like XXYXYY. I would post it, but UA-cam deletes it.
I actually JUST showed this to my friends. He plays exactly like Gran/Djeeta being able to fit in power strike anywhere in the combo before ending with combo finisher. Gran's/Djeeta's best route is XXYXY>Y(hold)
Thanks for the knowledge, after checking he can do it with the first 2 combo finishers, so for example, you can do XYXYY, you can also keep doing x to reach the last combo, like XYXXYY and it will end in the 4 hit combo so you can do the avatar finisher.
Was playing as seofon with my friend against Lucilus and we hit him with SBA triple full burst in a row and ended fight straight away after the celestial fusion phase lol
This was a good in-depth guide for Siete (Seofon). It feels good to finally play another character I actually like aside from Id, but one of my main gripes about him is the Swordshine gauge as it cannot be saved. In a way, I find it strange how the Avatar can be manually turned on/off to save meter, yet, the SS is not maintained, making it come across as an oversight from the developers, ESPECIALLY, if you accidentally press Y to deactivate when in the mental state of doing a combo. Resulting in a loss of progress over a bizarre choice in design. I can’t help but feel stupid over something that is more of an inconvenience that punishes the player for making a mistake.
Yeah man, I personally found it ridiculous how they implemented this mechanic of activating and deactivating Avatar mode with the same button. Sometimes you can barely see your character during combat and it becomes extremely easy to lose track in the middle of a combo, especially when there's a Tweyn shooting a thousand arrows filled with extravagant special effects.
yeah that's my main issue with this boy ... really I want to love him and enjoy his playstyle but damn I cancel him sooooooo many time because the game is some time not reactiv to the Y so you double tape it and it summon and cancel him , or you think it's the finisher but it was not and you lose your whole gauge when it miss one pixel of charge before the avatar finisher , in the end I enjoy Song way more because she isn't feeling as clumsy as Siete :(
Hello ! After a bunch of testing, i found at that the combo X X Y Y actually deals more damage, and is a little bit faster for grinding the jauge because of its quick animation. Also, you jump very high while doing it, which make you dodge a lot of attacks ! Its my personnal bread and butter combo :)
Great job on the guide (like all the others)! I've been out of the game for a while but I really like the seofon character so I just needed to play again! But how do you get the seven-star boundary sigil and the spirit edges? Thanks!
I got Lucky I have a Damage Cap with Steel Nerves so I can use Stout Heart as a Defensive Sigil and people found out that Stout Heart gives a 25%(30% with Defense Tree Bonus) Damage Reduction and if you use Steel Heart you get around 40% Damage reduction, with Seofon's Warpath might be worth swapping it out I just can't reliably use Avatar Finisher every 30 seconds on some bosses Even with low HP I've been lucky to survive with a good chunk of health from attacks (I even took 699,999 damage from Super Nova as Siegfried was pretty funny)
I just have a problem with their weopans being locked behind rare drop items (the crowns from Behemouth). The fight takes a while and I have completed it 15 times and only got 1 crown. I have only got 2 Terminus weaponms from Bahamut after 20+ times. I think that was a bad decision, no variety just repeat long drawn outfights again and again to not get anything, Makes it really boring.
Yeah he's awesome! If you don't have the Lucilius sigils simply go for Damage Cap+ with good utility traits like Stun Power, Improved Dodge, Nimble Onslaught, Potion Hoarder, Guts, etc.
War path is actually a dps lose on Siete! Doing your xxyy combo is most optional. I did like 40mil without warpath. The fact that you have to dump your swordshine is a HUGE dps lose. Everything else seems good! Nice guide
Warpath is weird because it's a straightup dps loss in parsing, but in fights that last long enough to get link time, the enhanced damage is crazy. Although Seofon is already absolutely ridiculous during linktime, so it's probably overkill at that point
@@kevingraham4736 Thought you were refering only to the fact the guy shoot sword at people,not that he was voiced by the same dude since you solely mention the noble phantasm.
I wouldnt run his Warpath nor use the Avatar Finisher. While its a good buff, the finisher does absolutely terrible damage and is really only worth it in link time
This Caracter doesnt work at all for me on aside from Bosses without movement. On Behemoth you can barely ever get to finish your combo, Avatar runs out before it finishes usually. Takes ages to get any bar filled.
I do believe its been tested that his hidden combo is the best one to use. XYXYY. Also during link time you want to skill spam not use avatar finisher. If you know link time is foming soon you can waste gauge early to get the buffs ready for linktime then you can skill spam since you get the gauges back immediately in link.
Imo is a worse version with better animations. You have no super armor at all, the finisher sometimes bugs out and misses and the bar takes eons to fill. Seofon is imo what you get by mixing the worst parts of Id and Katalina kits with extremely nice animations
worse... the DPS is also so worse 😭... I expected for him to have a good dps but jesus... same build Katalina and Same build Seofon will tell you the answer.... dam*t I wasted hours of grinding for him... I was so frustrated that I cant outdmg my Katalina.... anyways... hes animation is fun and cool... thats it but for DMG??? think first before grinding...
Little tip but like a lot of other characters you can keep your avatar finisher in storage if you wanted to do it but the monster moved, with improved dodge it's even better, just spam dodge until you reach the monster and you'll be able to hit him
There seems to be a problem with the level lock horns. I have been trying to get the crown of lament . i’ve done it over 10 times and it hasn’t dropped. So I’m just gonna have to wait until they fix it to start playing again.,
I did parsing with Seofon in Behemoth and I found what works for me best which allows Seofon to constantly hit above 300k dps. Get the awakening sigils and add another supplementary damage sigils. I don't like Tyranny especially cause you need to compensate it with Aegis, rather than that I'd prefer something like Life on the line, and put one quick cooldown, Get a cascade 4 wrightstone to max out your cascade level, this will help a lot in your rotation for all your skill cooldown. Improved dodge works wonder for him, if you're a good enough player then instead of improved dodge, get an uplift. Seofon really don't need stout heart if you already have his warpath. Warpath + gamma is enough to make you immune to small chip damage. XX + YY combo is the best!
How did you manage to spend 6 minutes to explain a mechanic that takes 2 sentences? I generally really like your guides on relink and DD2, but level of yapping in this one is something else.
Appreciate the feedback brother. I try to make my guides to be easy to follow, kind of like if I were explaining it to a friend over discord. I didn't try to purposefully bloat the video but I can totally see what you mean. I've added chapters to the videos so at least everyone has the option to skip to a different part if they feel I'm spending too much time on a topic, but I value your feedback, I'll keep that in mind for the future. Cheers mate
@@darkhero2 Appreciate your concern with quality. Sry if comment sounded ruder then intended. Looking forward for more relink videos from you if they are still to come!
Totally fair! I'd say swap out the Lucilius sigils for Dmg Cap+ that have the utility trait you like. Replacing them with Damage Cap5+ isn't going to result in a huge DPS loss, I believe it's less than 12%
yes its good cause it bypasses damage cap so basically more damage the only downside side is that some warpath sigils just arent that good or theyre very niche
@@kittykedama7643 other than Tweyen and Seofon I dont intend to change older chara sigils haha imo their warpaths are niche too I hope some CC will let us know later haha
They're good in general. May not seem much but it's treated the same way as War Elemental; calculated AFTER every other "flat" damage boosting skills (tyranny, LoL, stamina, etc) so long as you meet the conditions. Seofon's in particular is odd since it kinda gimps his dps than anything far as I tested. Not even Narmaya's warpath levels of odd where it's a playstyle change where you focus on normal attacks than SBA spam with uplift, his is just.... odd.
9:16 Just tested myself, it's worse. Not only can it be a casted once, and has a long Cooldown of 7-8mins. But if you ever die/get downed. The Cooldown resets. Meaning you'll have to wait to use that move again. You can bypass the reset for a bit with Autorevive (tried it myself) but again, if you die, the Sever Star skill *WILL* reset. NOT WORTH IT.
How fast do u get the materials for the sigils? I’m playing 2 days straight and didn’t get enough Crowns from Behemoth. I only get 2 in 2 days of farming 😢 Are there any tips?
Yo can you make a sigil guide for people that havent already 100% beat the entire game and have absolutely no reason to watch these videos as they have all the best items, sigils, etc.? Kinda absolutely dumb you didnt include a "Sigils for Seofon before you beat the entire game" section.
There are only 2 wrong things with this guide. That build is poorly optimized. You dont need stamina if you already have Tyranny, you are way over the damage cap, meaning you are losing damage, another thing is the rotation, it goods look on paper, but it is really bad depending on the boss. Some bosses take too many hits before you can fill their stun gauge or move too much, it works on the training dummy, but other rotations are better depending on the monster.
bro what, you are not gonna hit damage cap with just a tyranny please stop saying things you dont know about i just tested this and you dont hit the damage cap with just a tyranny
I'm gonna have to disagree here. 1 Tyranny sigil does not hit the damage cap for Seofon. I tried different combinations with Combo Booster, Combo Finisher, Life On The Line etc. and this is what I found to consistently hit the damage cap
Seven Star is purchased from Siero (Treasure Hunt on the second page with all the other warpath sigils). You'll need a lot of Behemoth clears for the mats. Spirit edge, iirc, comes with the 4.99 DLC pack you can buy that gives you the weapon essences needed to unlock Seofon (or Tweyen) outright without grinding Behemoth at all.
I absolutely love playing as Seofon, it took me a while to get used to him, but now he's one of my favorites!
Have you tried any of the new sigils on the rest of the characters? Which characters do you think got the best new sigils?
I was afraid of this... Forgive me Lancelot, I have found my new main
Real
Lancey will still be my guy Seofon just gon be right there with him lol
My maxed out Ferry is shaking
Yeah I said the same thing lol new main all day
Aww yeah been checking all day for this video!
Hi DarkHero, great video here.
Just wanted to let you know that there was a reddit post showing that Seofon has a few secret combos, like XXYXYY.
I would post it, but UA-cam deletes it.
I actually JUST showed this to my friends. He plays exactly like Gran/Djeeta being able to fit in power strike anywhere in the combo before ending with combo finisher.
Gran's/Djeeta's best route is XXYXY>Y(hold)
Any other? Or just that one?
@raymondcampusano2991 sorry, you'll have to Google, "Seofon secret combos reddit"
Thanks for the knowledge, after checking he can do it with the first 2 combo finishers, so for example, you can do XYXYY, you can also keep doing x to reach the last combo, like XYXXYY and it will end in the 4 hit combo so you can do the avatar finisher.
A secret combo?? Now that's interesting I'll have to try that out, thanks for letting me know!
The spanish is absolutely immaculate ngl - amazing guide, was really looking forward to this. Thanks a lot!
Ahahah thank you I'm glad you liked it!!
Am I the only one that got the MH Teostra reference? 😂
Was playing as seofon with my friend against Lucilus and we hit him with SBA triple full burst in a row and ended fight straight away after the celestial fusion phase lol
He actually has hidden combo routes you didnt mention.
He has XYXYY and XXYXYY routes
This was a good in-depth guide for Siete (Seofon). It feels good to finally play another character I actually like aside from Id, but one of my main gripes about him is the Swordshine gauge as it cannot be saved. In a way, I find it strange how the Avatar can be manually turned on/off to save meter, yet, the SS is not maintained, making it come across as an oversight from the developers, ESPECIALLY, if you accidentally press Y to deactivate when in the mental state of doing a combo. Resulting in a loss of progress over a bizarre choice in design. I can’t help but feel stupid over something that is more of an inconvenience that punishes the player for making a mistake.
Yeah man, I personally found it ridiculous how they implemented this mechanic of activating and deactivating Avatar mode with the same button. Sometimes you can barely see your character during combat and it becomes extremely easy to lose track in the middle of a combo, especially when there's a Tweyn shooting a thousand arrows filled with extravagant special effects.
yeah that's my main issue with this boy ... really I want to love him and enjoy his playstyle but damn I cancel him sooooooo many time because the game is some time not reactiv to the Y so you double tape it and it summon and cancel him , or you think it's the finisher but it was not and you lose your whole gauge when it miss one pixel of charge before the avatar finisher , in the end I enjoy Song way more because she isn't feeling as clumsy as Siete :(
Hello !
After a bunch of testing, i found at that the combo X X Y Y actually deals more damage, and is a little bit faster for grinding the jauge because of its quick animation. Also, you jump very high while doing it, which make you dodge a lot of attacks ! Its my personnal bread and butter combo :)
The leader of the Eternals, everyone
It feels good to be back playing relink again
I'm currently grinding. Where do i get flawless prisma?
from boss quest or you can buy from Siero too
Great job on the guide (like all the others)! I've been out of the game for a while but I really like the seofon character so I just needed to play again!
But how do you get the seven-star boundary sigil and the spirit edges?
Thanks!
thank you for your guides, they've been immensely helpful, definitely some of the best on UA-cam. can't wait to try Seofon!
Another tip for Seofon i just like Percivlle you can dodge right after the combo finisher to cancel the long animation after.
I got Lucky I have a Damage Cap with Steel Nerves so I can use Stout Heart as a Defensive Sigil and people found out that Stout Heart gives a 25%(30% with Defense Tree Bonus) Damage Reduction and if you use Steel Heart you get around 40% Damage reduction, with Seofon's Warpath might be worth swapping it out I just can't reliably use Avatar Finisher every 30 seconds on some bosses
Even with low HP I've been lucky to survive with a good chunk of health from attacks (I even took 699,999 damage from Super Nova as Siegfried was pretty funny)
Where do you actually get the warpath and boundary sigil? Haven't saw it yet on transmarvel.
I just have a problem with their weopans being locked behind rare drop items (the crowns from Behemouth). The fight takes a while and I have completed it 15 times and only got 1 crown. I have only got 2 Terminus weaponms from Bahamut after 20+ times. I think that was a bad decision, no variety just repeat long drawn outfights again and again to not get anything, Makes it really boring.
Been waiting on your video. He’s my new favorite after Percy. Can you show a recommended build without the lucerious sigils?
Yeah he's awesome! If you don't have the Lucilius sigils simply go for Damage Cap+ with good utility traits like Stun Power, Improved Dodge, Nimble Onslaught, Potion Hoarder, Guts, etc.
If seofon had a katana he would be Vergil
“Rocking the Teostra set” - floored XD
War path is actually a dps lose on Siete! Doing your xxyy combo is most optional. I did like 40mil without warpath. The fact that you have to dump your swordshine is a HUGE dps lose. Everything else seems good! Nice guide
Warpath is weird because it's a straightup dps loss in parsing, but in fights that last long enough to get link time, the enhanced damage is crazy. Although Seofon is already absolutely ridiculous during linktime, so it's probably overkill at that point
Thanks a lot for this Incredibly detailed guide .. I feel like a pro playing Seofon after watching this
Hahaha I'm glad you liked it and I hope you have fun with Seofon!
This game sucks. I'm so disappointed that I wasted my money on it. It's another failed attempt at trying to be Monster Hunter.
Thank you for a great video!
He felt hard to play for me at first, but not anymore after this guide
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it!!
U can also use real money to buy seofon and tweyn
Unlimited blade works is op? No way
Fun fact:Its also literaly the same Japanese VA as Archer.
@@George_Gogo01 that was the joke 😃
@@kevingraham4736 Thought you were refering only to the fact the guy shoot sword at people,not that he was voiced by the same dude since you solely mention the noble phantasm.
I wouldnt run his Warpath nor use the Avatar Finisher. While its a good buff, the finisher does absolutely terrible damage and is really only worth it in link time
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This Caracter doesnt work at all for me on aside from Bosses without movement. On Behemoth you can barely ever get to finish your combo, Avatar runs out before it finishes usually. Takes ages to get any bar filled.
I do believe its been tested that his hidden combo is the best one to use. XYXYY.
Also during link time you want to skill spam not use avatar finisher. If you know link time is foming soon you can waste gauge early to get the buffs ready for linktime then you can skill spam since you get the gauges back immediately in link.
Dropping this here, but Seofon has a hidden combo of: XXYXYY that builds up gauge the quickest!
Is he just a better version of Katalina? His moves look super similar which I thought was kinda lame.
Imo is a worse version with better animations. You have no super armor at all, the finisher sometimes bugs out and misses and the bar takes eons to fill.
Seofon is imo what you get by mixing the worst parts of Id and Katalina kits with extremely nice animations
worse... the DPS is also so worse 😭... I expected for him to have a good dps but jesus... same build Katalina and Same build Seofon will tell you the answer.... dam*t I wasted hours of grinding for him... I was so frustrated that I cant outdmg my Katalina.... anyways... hes animation is fun and cool... thats it but for DMG??? think first before grinding...
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bro I bought the dlc , when can I unlock the new characters instead of farming them ??
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Little tip but like a lot of other characters you can keep your avatar finisher in storage if you wanted to do it but the monster moved, with improved dodge it's even better, just spam dodge until you reach the monster and you'll be able to hit him
Are there alternatives for the sigil if you dont have alpha, beta, or gamma?
Thanks for great video as always
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!
Good show 👏 👍 👌 my build is lil different tho
There seems to be a problem with the level lock horns. I have been trying to get the crown of lament . i’ve done it over 10 times and it hasn’t dropped. So I’m just gonna have to wait until they fix it to start playing again.,
Nah, they just have low drop rates, I got more than 100 just by doing AFK farming.
I did parsing with Seofon in Behemoth and I found what works for me best which allows Seofon to constantly hit above 300k dps.
Get the awakening sigils and add another supplementary damage sigils. I don't like Tyranny especially cause you need to compensate it with Aegis, rather than that I'd prefer something like Life on the line, and put one quick cooldown,
Get a cascade 4 wrightstone to max out your cascade level, this will help a lot in your rotation for all your skill cooldown.
Improved dodge works wonder for him, if you're a good enough player then instead of improved dodge, get an uplift.
Seofon really don't need stout heart if you already have his warpath. Warpath + gamma is enough to make you immune to small chip damage.
XX + YY combo is the best!
his flying swords skills and attacks looks so cool! but this antenna hair looks so goofy....
Does anyone know how he is as ai? Any changes we have to do to get it done?
Oh look the strongest baker
Only thing i dont like about him is that he loses his collar on his cape looks and it little weird when he transforms 😂 i love this man 🎉❤
Teostra set 😂😂😂
4177 Krajcik Cape
I can't choose who to main anymore..all of them are so fun to play (even Ghanda)
Can you get all of his sigils from vouchers?
How did you manage to spend 6 minutes to explain a mechanic that takes 2 sentences? I generally really like your guides on relink and DD2, but level of yapping in this one is something else.
Appreciate the feedback brother. I try to make my guides to be easy to follow, kind of like if I were explaining it to a friend over discord.
I didn't try to purposefully bloat the video but I can totally see what you mean.
I've added chapters to the videos so at least everyone has the option to skip to a different part if they feel I'm spending too much time on a topic, but I value your feedback, I'll keep that in mind for the future. Cheers mate
@@darkhero2 Appreciate your concern with quality. Sry if comment sounded ruder then intended. Looking forward for more relink videos from you if they are still to come!
Eventually can i replace a stamina + with another tiranny +? To max the damage output?
if you are full hp, stamina gives more dmg than tyranny
Is anyone else getting one shot by bosses with a power level over 21k as Seofon?
that's a great sigil damage setup but I don't think I can survive Lucilius without improve dodge and potion hoarder at least
Totally fair! I'd say swap out the Lucilius sigils for Dmg Cap+ that have the utility trait you like. Replacing them with Damage Cap5+ isn't going to result in a huge DPS loss, I believe it's less than 12%
@@darkhero2 true we can just keep gamma to provide shield and all dmg cap up.
You don't need a vitality wrightstone on Seofon. With one crit rate sigil and crit overmastery you're at 100%
Yeah but I feel like it's more important to save that sigil slot for something else
@@darkhero2 So Wrightstone+Master is 100% too? Yeah than the sigil is *definitely* more important, my b.
quetion about the new "enhance DMG" is it good?? the number are just 20-30% so it must be really good right??
yes its good cause it bypasses damage cap so basically more damage the only downside side is that some warpath sigils just arent that good or theyre very niche
@@kittykedama7643 other than Tweyen and Seofon I dont intend to change older chara sigils haha imo their warpaths are niche too I hope some CC will let us know later haha
They're good in general. May not seem much but it's treated the same way as War Elemental; calculated AFTER every other "flat" damage boosting skills (tyranny, LoL, stamina, etc) so long as you meet the conditions.
Seofon's in particular is odd since it kinda gimps his dps than anything far as I tested.
Not even Narmaya's warpath levels of odd where it's a playstyle change where you focus on normal attacks than SBA spam with uplift, his is just.... odd.
9:16 Just tested myself, it's worse.
Not only can it be a casted once, and has a long Cooldown of 7-8mins. But if you ever die/get downed. The Cooldown resets. Meaning you'll have to wait to use that move again.
You can bypass the reset for a bit with Autorevive (tried it myself) but again, if you die, the Sever Star skill *WILL* reset.
NOT WORTH IT.
How fast do u get the materials for the sigils? I’m playing 2 days straight and didn’t get enough Crowns from Behemoth. I only get 2 in 2 days of farming 😢
Are there any tips?
It's just luck, i try to break his head every time just to get a chance to get it. (Knowing that the material is on his head so..)
mods
always get S++ so there's a chance on chests
crit damage sigils aren't very good?
Me gusta como decis "barrido" y "rotura", bastante bien la verdad!!
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how is he as an AI?
Great video but I have a question is the blue hair dlc? I really want it
Thank you but yeah it's one of the DLC colors. I have a video with all of them if you'd like to check how they all look
Yo can you make a sigil guide for people that havent already 100% beat the entire game and have absolutely no reason to watch these videos as they have all the best items, sigils, etc.? Kinda absolutely dumb you didnt include a "Sigils for Seofon before you beat the entire game" section.
Cygames did again a great job with the characters.
neither of the 3 are any good, Tweyen's burst damage is lame.
There are only 2 wrong things with this guide. That build is poorly optimized. You dont need stamina if you already have Tyranny, you are way over the damage cap, meaning you are losing damage, another thing is the rotation, it goods look on paper, but it is really bad depending on the boss. Some bosses take too many hits before you can fill their stun gauge or move too much, it works on the training dummy, but other rotations are better depending on the monster.
what would you recommend?
Can you recommend the best Sigils please
bro what, you are not gonna hit damage cap with just a tyranny please stop saying things you dont know about i just tested this and you dont hit the damage cap with just a tyranny
I'm gonna have to disagree here. 1 Tyranny sigil does not hit the damage cap for Seofon.
I tried different combinations with Combo Booster, Combo Finisher, Life On The Line etc. and this is what I found to consistently hit the damage cap
What would you recommend?
Hey! how did you get the seven star sigil and spirit edge one ?
Seven Star is purchased from Siero (Treasure Hunt on the second page with all the other warpath sigils). You'll need a lot of Behemoth clears for the mats. Spirit edge, iirc, comes with the 4.99 DLC pack you can buy that gives you the weapon essences needed to unlock Seofon (or Tweyen) outright without grinding Behemoth at all.