New video shows moments when nose of Delta plane briefly catches fire at SEA Airport
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
- NO AUDIO. Footage obtained from the Port of Seattle.
Passengers and crew aboard a Delta flight that had arrived at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on May 6 were evacuated after a fire started inside the nose of the plane. No major injuries were reported.
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No fire extinguishers anywhere near the flightline? That's nuts!
ya, just watching how much none of the ground crew gave 2 sheets about it...but, typical workforce these days.
that's totally pathetic.
Or, the ground crew quickly determined (as I did after managing ground operations for 8 years) that a fire extinguisher would have zero effect on an electrical fire until the current flow is stopped. The current flow appears to stop at 4 minutes when visible fire magically disappears. Then, fire assets arrive and wet it down a little as a precaution (and would only have done this with the knowledge that current flow had stopped)
That’s an electrical fire , the ground service on the terminal side had to be faulty! If ground crew don’t know the difference someone would have caused more harm
An active electrical fire like that with the plane still fully charged, an extinguisher would only briefly knock the fire down, it would flare up again in seconds. You have to de-energize the entire plane and that takes a few minutes. By then, the firefighters were there, and the fire was out.
90 seconds to deploy slides. Took 3 minutes & 30 seconds for all passengers to get off. Almost 6 minutes for fire trucks to arrive. This is the WORST response time I have ever witnessed. If this plane had caught fire very few people would have made it out alive.
Slow your roll there punchy. Being that this was an unannounced emergency, the response time for the fire trucks depends on when they were notified. May have taken a good few minutes for that notification.
@@gunhog11 All emergencies are un-announced isn't it ?
@@vivvar2000 an announced emergency is one where an aircraft inflight, for example, has an emergency and there is time between then and when it arrives at the airport, thus emergency services has time to be prepared and in standing by. As opposed to an unannounced emergency where the emergency services have to be notified and have to respond from a cold start, with no prior notification.
"Almost 6 minutes for fire trucks to arrive"
-Where did you obtain that number from?
@@gunhog11
Stop using logic and rational thought... It only confuses the mouth breathers
6 mins for fire crew to arrive?! WTF
Depends on when they were notified. May have taken a few minutes.
On what do you base your assertion on?
Sleeping?
I am disappointed to see that response time
Depends on when they received notification. Clock starts at that time for response time.
An absolute shambles of a response time.
When was fire services notified? The clock starts at that time of notification, for an unannounced emergency.
looks like the Ground power unit plug in short circuiting
AND a complete lack of safety training and awareness. POOR all the way around!
@@user-lb6hp6se4g ramp rats tend to be not the brightest bulbs in the box. Seriously. Remember the one that got eaten by a turbine engine a year or so ago-she ignored ALL safety breifings-and done ruined a perfectly good engine as a result. Spent some 30+ years in that industry as an A & P mechanic & have seen some individuals that had absolutely NO business whatsoever on a ramp.
@@stevenrobinson2381 still on the line as an A/P.....you NAILED it
Maybe its just me.....but the word "briefly" means 10 seconds or less
Exactly. The fire lasted a while. Definitely wasn't "brief."
Didn't fizzle out for about 4 minutes.
About 7min before any fire suppressant hit the fire area...That's is one lame airport and ground crew.
Gotta figure out when the fire dept was called. Might have taken a couple of mins before anyone did.
@@gunhog11 ....when you figure that out, subtract that from 7min and that will tell you how long it took to drive to the scene...let us know
@@MrDLRu wouldn’t be surprised if there was a fairly good delay before anyone called the ARFF station, seeing as how most people on the ramp were running around like a clown show.
What a total embarrassment!!! All people running away not a single person takes a fire extinguisher out of their vehicles all driving away with aircraft full of defenseless passengers. 6 minutes before emergency arrived and parked on the wrong end of the airplane. Wild, wild west more like whole bunch of free range chickens, shame on all involved 🫣
Depends on when the fire dept was called, due to it being an unannounced emergency. If it took a few minutes too, then the clock starts then. Plus, and this is the pathetic part, the ramp personnel aren’t trained at many airlines to use the large ramp fire extinguishers that are all around the flightline. Those are mostly there for show, it would seem.
@@gunhog11they could have called the supervisor who instructed don’t do anything if it’s an electrical fire , that’s 115V nothing to play with
SO TRUE. POOR SAFETY training by all!
",,as you deplane via a slide, be SURE to take ALL your belonging with you!!" 4 minutes in and STILL clearing planes to taxi as passengers mill about,,what a cluster!!
Honestly, you would not want to be the guy reaching for his luggage if I was on that plane, things would not go well for you. Also, pathetic response by ground personnel, guaranteed there are fire extinguishers on all those support vehicles and a bunch more in the nearby terminal. THIS is why flying scares me, not because of potential crashes or fires, but idiot passengers.
Media be like "Boeing problems again" eventhough is a A321.
for sure
this is not an A321
it is a boeing 737
I fly this and it’s definitely a 321
And this was most likely a ground power cable failure. Gate power is notoriously trash, but this is a new one
Airport firefighters response time supposed to be 2 minutes or less, where are they ?
5 mins. Depends when the notification came in. I’m more interested in how no one appears to know how to use a fire extinguisher.
3min
Fire extinguishers dont stop an electrical short. Short still remains.
@@72sat360 The fire extinguisher puts out the residual fire when the power was shut off
Since we don't know when they received the notification, we can't know how much it took them to respond. It may be well within 3 minutes.
Absolutely terrifying
Notice how they DON'T specify that it's an Airbus A321 NEO in the title. DETAILS ARE IMPORTANT!
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut if it were a boeing....
It's not popular to hammer Airbus, just Boeing.
@@richardpark3054 Not really relevant in this case as the cause was not the plane but a faulty GPU cable connected by the ground handling crew.
@@garyyoung3179 The haters won't care.
Fire bored to wait for the firefighters and was extinguished by it self!
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Or the source of current was switched off
@@dickenskowuor9851 For sure, but it's funnier thinking it differently ;)
Had this same issue on a DC10 years ago. I just ran up and grabbed the burning power cord and unplugged from the airplane. Problem solved in two seconds.
No-one has a fire distinguisher ?
Pretty sure it wouldn’t take a fire distinguisher to distinguish a fire from a non-fire.
Extinguishers all over the ramp area there, but no rampers trained to use them believe it or not
@@gunhog11 no there aren't
This is exactly how not to handle an emergency.
That was embarrassing, everyone was totally unprepared on the ground. The fire was out before the response got there!
Interesting that it took a few minutes before emergency exits were open. What were they waiting for? Then the fire dept shows up much later, pretty lights and shiny trucks. Did we disturb you?
This looks like an electrical fire at the plug socket. Likely a junky jet bridge plug which caught fire not the landing gear.
I had boarded a plane at Sea Tac waiting to take off to Sacramento CA and they announced a delay because the battery was dead 😮
It took all my positive thinking abilities to remain on the plane 😂
nobody doing nothing........so very strange
come hang out at an airport for about a week....this is normal
@@justing42 WOW!
Looks like unorganized chaos. Where is the fire bottle that should be at the nose of the airplane? Why are the passengers allowed to run around in all different directions without anyone to show them where to go? What a laugh.. All for a shorting out electric cord plugging into the plane. Shutting off power to the cord would have been a good first call. NOPE not even that..
I'm sure the extinguisher cart is in front of the nose of the aircraft. The question is, are any of the ground crew trained to use it? Even know what it is?
why did they place the slide at the rear door and then not open it? Was there a problem with the door? All passengers had to exit out the wing doors, many took their luggage! Don't they have training and emergency plans in place? That was crazy!
@@EJWash57 yes this very true.
@@EJWash57 Correct. Large fire extinguishers at every gate. But no ramp people trained to use them apparently. So there they sit.
Where exactly are these fire bottles? Or are you another non ramper that knows everything
The media is going to blame Boeing lol smh, I’m happy that everyone is safe.
That will be interesting since the aircraft is an A320 NEO...
No flickering cabin, cockpit, and other lights (nav and logo are still on), I assume the APU is also on? Plane looks totally chill AF. Meanwhile, the GPU plug and cable glows brightly. That's quite electrical flame that's notoriously difficult to put down. I really like how there is that one ramp agent casually standing there watching (hopefully also frantically calling fire team on his HT), while a slide is deploying. You can put on Yakety Sax, which plays approximately as long as the fire response.
What happened to those all-kinds-of-fire kind of fire extinguisher they wheeled along when pushingback an airplane? I thought every parking stand / gate bound to have one.
Otherwise, I understood that all those live engines from that Delta Airbus completing its pushback behind this plane on fire, and that arriving Alaska 737 traffic might complicate emergency responder access. But the ramp should have all the equipment to deal with this kind of situation, since we are increasingly using GPUs to reduce emission.
9:38:42PM Fire starts
9:40:02PM First slide deployed
9:40:32PM People start exiting through emergency exits
9:42:19PM Last evacuating person walks away from the plane
9:42:39PM Fire appears to go out
9:43:49PM First vehicle with flashing lights arrives
9:44:26PM First fire truck arrives
911: "911 whats your emergency?" Passenger: "The plane is on fire!" 911: "Please hold."
Crew working must be professional
Is there some reason the fire dept didn’t pull the apparatus up to near the seat of the fire? Rookies.
Flight ops should have seen this and reacted immediately. Were they out to lunch?
Serious questions need answering on the response for this fire. Crazy delays and well outside required minimum response times for international airports. Shocking. Thankfully it appears everyone made it out safely.
"well outside required minimum response times for international airports"
-Prove your assertion
The pilots: seems a bit toasty in here..
I swear, the ground crew are walking around like nothing’s happening. And WHY did it take so long for the fire trucks to get there and when they did stationed way too far from fire. Ground crew did nothing to direct them.
The ground crew didn’t even notice that the aircraft was on fire
Electrical fire. If ramper would have used their fire bottle they would have gotten fried. And without killing the electrical source even a “dry bottle” wouldnt work. But why did it take so long to get the fire trucks there, thats concerning. First thing we learn in training though is no evacuation ever goes smoothly because passengers are involved.
Do you even work on a ramp! Cause your comment is misleading
Lol, the fire eventually put itself out. It got tired of waiting for the firefighters. 😂😂
"EMBARRASSING!"
Appears to be an electrical fire.
Appears that no one at that Airport is properly trained.
Meanwhile they just leave all the passengers onboard...
😮
I still have the best luck with service and being on time with Delta.
5 minutes and NO fire trucks ....way to go SEA.
3.30 seconds before anyone attempted to tackle or isolate! This airport isn’t fit to operate passenger aircraft!
The passengers scramble, the gate/aircraft crew are not excited because they have worked Delta gates before.
Luckily planes don't run on gasoline. That'd be bad.
Can be used as a training video for what not to do!!!!
4 minutes later the fire got bored and went out!
Ok fire is out everyone back on board!
Very, very slow response, could have been catastrophic.
electric fire
Is that another Bumming I meant Boeing?
I’m curious, how long did it take for fire responders to arrive?
So many people carry their luggage.
Guys, I cannot believe its another scary Boeing incident...........................................................................(Yall, I know its an A321NEO and just pointing out how whenever Boeing has issues no matter how small BOEING is in headline, but this isn't lol)
AIRBUS AIRBUS AIRBUS
For a change, eh?
@@EJWash57 actually, there was a hawaiian a330 and a a321 that both had emergencies last week
@@jordanwilliams2557 HA02 HNL-LAX, A330-200, low tire pressure indication, declared emergency as a precaution. Found a report of an American Airlines A-321 hard landing in Maui this last January.
Looks more EXTERNAL POWER. EXTTERNAL POWER. EXTERNAL POWER....but what do I know?
Everyone blaming the ground crew personnel should know what they talking about before blaming the ground crew! There’s a fault ground service power cord which went up in flames which is AN ELECTRICAL FIRE ! There are different classes of extinguishers around all airports but you should identify the source before you hurt yourself in the process ! This is how you are trained in each airport
So I guess their training doesn't specify that for electrical, you grab CO2? How about some training for ground staff that says....You see a fire in a cord/plug, throw a breaker?
@@garymackey850 the ground equipment should automatically turn off, even if you don’t have it plugged all the way in , it should shut off automatically ! When stuff happens everyone doesn’t respond as a hero , and sometimes people do and get hurt some don’t ! Fortunately everyone made it off safe , the aircraft can be repaired !
I will blame the ground crew and you for misinformation! And I do know what I'm talking about! Kill the power,unplug the cord, and use the correct the fire extinguisher! But your statement shows the mentality of this country. Make excuses, blame other factors!
Look at all the idiots bringing their bags with them
it is battery compartment to power pilot cabin instruments.
Explains the molten metal dripping off. Electrical shorts can get pretty hot.
Very embarrassing
bad procedures, little or no training, bad behavoure from ground crew.
This is an Airbus problem
😂😂, nope, a plug problem....
A fire that put itself out because everyone around it took too long to do it, lol this has got to be a joke. Worst emergency response ever! No one on the ground seemed to have a sense of urgency at all...
Lets not forget all the STUPID MORONIC Passengers who just have to stand around with their cell phones out. A flight line is a very dangerous place even not in a emergency.
3:39 😂😂😂 what a clown show. Embarrassing delta
CHAPEAU AUX POMPIERS 6 MINUTES POUR ARRIVER
I remember taking a tour of the airport fire fighting team and facilities back in the 80s, as a cub scout, I remember then saying they had to train to get to a fire in 2 minutes because that was how long a cabin could hold up against a fire.
Oh well, so much for that.
No one gives a crap anymore.
They so act like the shop pilot were from Galaxy quest.
I had a fire Saturday in my dad's car One time, hooking up a CB, lol, two wires crossed, instant fire, yanked the wires out, put out the fire, moved on. Tell my dad, he'll no ,lol.
Common sense people.
Call the fire team, try to Yank it the wire, CO2 fire extinguisher of you have it, even better, there had to be an emergency shut off switch.
It's a freaking short circuit, it happens. My freaking god, it's kind Idiocracy.
We are all so freaking doomed.
"they had to train to get to a fire in 2 minutes"
-That would be incorrect
-Further, the time here would be unknown since you have no idea when they were dispatched
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Probably firetrucks were electric and the charging was not complete when fire broke up :)
What?
@@coolgatz708 Come on buddy...just a joke!
The fire department was obviously in bed or baking cookies at the station. Good to know that on one single ramoer had access to a fire extinguished or just didnt care
Depends when the Fire Dept was notified. Probably took a couple of minutes or so. Clock for response starts at that time.
"The fire department was obviously in bed or baking cookies at the station"
-What do you base such an assertion on?
@@virgilhilts3924 On how fire responses are timed. The fire dept doesn’t have a crystal ball. They have to be notified of an emergency, and thats when the clock starts for response time for an unannounced emergency. Right out of 14 CFR 139
Let me guess, not enough diversity in the maintenance or manufacture of the aircraft is the cause of the fire.
Yall stole that video from my database
For real?
Airbus, Boeing... the plane makers change... but the blacks working around them stay the same... humm...
what?
@@Gwizz1027 they are pretty much saying that all blacks are 'diversity hires and unqualified'. its a racist statement