A very interesting video. My father, after serving with the RCAF during WW2, worked at Canadair, managing the production of CF-86 jets, under contract with North American. Canadair built 1800 Sabre Jets. Most went to Germany, and some were Super Sabres, with the Orenda engine. I remember hearing sonic booms over my town in the early '50s.
This is a good look at the history of the XP-86. I sure would like for you to cast your harp eye on the production version of the airplane, including the FJ-2/-3 Fury.
Designed by a German, Edgar Schmued , who also designed the P-51. Politics always kept his name out of it.imagine telling the American people that during the war.
Technically, ES was never German. He was born in Germany, but his father was Austrian, so he never held German citizenship before being granted the American one. He was already a naturalized American at the time he designed the P-51 and when also German-born actress Marlene Dietrich entertained the American troops.
I am no engineer but I believe that information from the cancelled Miles supersonic project was also significant in the F86's performance, especially with regard to the tail controls. We used to see F86s at air shows in England and they were distinct from British jets by the amount of smoke they emitted.
The whole "captured German tech" thing is blown way out of proportion, it's been done over the years for the sake of sensationalism because that's what sells books and gets people to "tune in" whether it's TV or UA-cam or whatever. The reality of it is the US was already flying a swept wing plane during the war, it was a pusher prop with swept wings that was dropped because the proposed engine was one of those goofy H or X configuration liquid cooled engine's that they quit putting time and money into since jet technology was just emerging, since the proposed engine was dropped a standard Allison V1710 was put in it for the sake of test flying it but the speeds needed for the swept wings to be beneficial were never going to be reached with an engine that only made ⅔rds the power that the original specs called for. Of course aircraft designers in the US looked at what the Germans had but that doesn't mean they'd never thought about swept wings or flown them before they saw what they'd done. The designer of it was one of the known companies like Bell or maybe even North American but at the moment whoever it was and the nomenclature for it I can't remember. Flying tails were a French invention that dated back to the 20's.
As fascinating this project is, it proves how armament and war necessitate each other. This jet was eveloped mid-WW2 to beat a powerful enemy. The enemy is beaten without the help of this project, but it's finished anyway. Now you need another war to show what your military project is good for. "Luckily", less than two years after entering service, the F-86 is sent to fight in Korea. The Korean War sparks the development of the Phantom, Phantom enters service after the Korean War ends, only seven years later, the US engage in the Vietman war ...
Surprisingly, there is very little to no footage of the XP-86s so, in the interest of keeping audiences engaged, we used filler footage of other versions.
What's the point of slats opening at 57mph? Why make them automatic at all. Edit: Was he supposed to say they *close* at 57mph? Or maybe that they open *under* 57mph? I don't know much about airplane design so I'm confused :)
German research was ahead of the rest. But to put that into production when you are without some materials, your industry is bombed, and in your factories are sabotage prone slave workers, well in that case you have zero chances.
why does you video cite stock gov and public domain footage to random youtubers? do you not know how citations work? you cite the original source, not some random other person who used the same clip.
As numerous and far-reaching as the F-86 fighter jet was in its day, there are probably hundreds of untold exploits and incidents that these machnes and their pilots had over the decades once production models were being made. I hope to learn about some.
You guys need to brush up on your aircraft recognition. Nearly all the footage you show are of F86D which is a VERY different, much later aircraft than the XP86 😕 And you need to learn how to convert from km/hr
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I love to listen to these videos while working or just relaxing.
I get to experience them twice because I often fall asleep listening.
having watched about every F86 video on UA-cam I thought I knew everything about this jet. Today I learned something new thank you.
My grand uncle worked @ NAA during WW2 & afterwards durung development & production of the F86 Sabres 🛩 thanks for the informative video.
A beautiful and capable aircraft.
A very interesting video. My father, after serving with the RCAF during WW2, worked at Canadair, managing the production of CF-86 jets, under contract with North American. Canadair built 1800 Sabre Jets. Most went to Germany, and some were Super Sabres, with the Orenda engine. I remember hearing sonic booms over my town in the early '50s.
Excellent. Thank You
Very informative video!
This is a good look at the history of the XP-86. I sure would like for you to cast your harp eye on the production version of the airplane, including the FJ-2/-3 Fury.
It would be interesting to see NA140 pictures as it sounds like it initially had straight wings.
Designed by a German, Edgar Schmued , who also designed the P-51. Politics always kept his name out of it.imagine telling the American people that during the war.
Not really that crazy considering Germans are the largest ethnic group in the US
And North American Aviation was basically Fokker US
Technically, ES was never German. He was born in Germany, but his father was Austrian, so he never held German citizenship before being granted the American one. He was already a naturalized American at the time he designed the P-51 and when also German-born actress Marlene Dietrich entertained the American troops.
@@einundsiebenziger5488was wiegt eine Erbse?
I am no engineer but I believe that information from the cancelled Miles supersonic project was also significant in the F86's performance, especially with regard to the tail controls. We used to see F86s at air shows in England and they were distinct from British jets by the amount of smoke they emitted.
The whole "captured German tech" thing is blown way out of proportion, it's been done over the years for the sake of sensationalism because that's what sells books and gets people to "tune in" whether it's TV or UA-cam or whatever.
The reality of it is the US was already flying a swept wing plane during the war, it was a pusher prop with swept wings that was dropped because the proposed engine was one of those goofy H or X configuration liquid cooled engine's that they quit putting time and money into since jet technology was just emerging, since the proposed engine was dropped a standard Allison V1710 was put in it for the sake of test flying it but the speeds needed for the swept wings to be beneficial were never going to be reached with an engine that only made ⅔rds the power that the original specs called for.
Of course aircraft designers in the US looked at what the Germans had but that doesn't mean they'd never thought about swept wings or flown them before they saw what they'd done.
The designer of it was one of the known companies like Bell or maybe even North American but at the moment whoever it was and the nomenclature for it I can't remember.
Flying tails were a French invention that dated back to the 20's.
As fascinating this project is, it proves how armament and war necessitate each other. This jet was eveloped mid-WW2 to beat a powerful enemy. The enemy is beaten without the help of this project, but it's finished anyway. Now you need another war to show what your military project is good for. "Luckily", less than two years after entering service, the F-86 is sent to fight in Korea. The Korean War sparks the development of the Phantom, Phantom enters service after the Korean War ends, only seven years later, the US engage in the Vietman war ...
Very little of the video is of the XP-86. Plenty of video of the F-86D/K, which is a completely different airplane.
Surprisingly, there is very little to no footage of the XP-86s so, in the interest of keeping audiences engaged, we used filler footage of other versions.
Never knew about the supersonic ability beating the X-1 before.
If you have more information on the F-86. That would be great 👍
What's the point of slats opening at 57mph? Why make them automatic at all.
Edit: Was he supposed to say they *close* at 57mph? Or maybe that they open *under* 57mph?
I don't know much about airplane design so I'm confused :)
The first ones came from ME 262 wings. They were sprung so that at low speed the reduced air force would let the springs extend the slats.
1:02 the war did WHAT???
The firebombings were just the precum.
Messerschmitt P1101 was the real orign of F-86.
Yeager broke the sound barrier in LEVEL flight, not during a dive….
Please do more civilian converterd planes
... converted*
In welchem Land ist das erstmal ein Jet geflogen???
Romania 😮
German research was ahead of the rest.
But to put that into production when you are without some materials, your industry is bombed, and in your factories are sabotage prone slave workers, well in that case you have zero chances.
why does you video cite stock gov and public domain footage to random youtubers?
do you not know how citations work? you cite the original source, not some random other person who used the same clip.
As numerous and far-reaching as the F-86 fighter jet was in its day, there are probably hundreds of untold exploits and incidents that these machnes and their pilots had over
the decades once production models were being made. I hope to learn about some.
I also edge towards my climax
Ist doch komisch, daß der Russe mit der MIG15 fast das gleiche Flugzeug rausgebracht haben! 🧐
You guys need to brush up on your aircraft recognition. Nearly all the footage you show are of F86D which is a VERY different, much later aircraft than the XP86 😕 And you need to learn how to convert from km/hr
Unfortunately, freely available high quality footage of the XP-86 is severely lacking. So we used what we had as filler.
And now the comments will go supersonic.
A Chevy jet engine!
It was not a Chevy engine.Allison Engine in Indianapolis built the engine.Allison was owned by GM and under the Chevrolet division.
@@jerryg53125 A fullstop needs to be followed by a space.* Makes reading easier.
@@einundsiebenziger5488 I have no idea what you are talking about.
British engine
57 km/hr or 135mph? Say what? This is what happens when you let AI write your script..
Lol, making your own MIG you mean? 🤣
Please learn how to pronounce terms….
Hi Doug, as a voice actor and narrator, I'm always striving to get better. Which terms are you referring to?
Man, you really don't know much about what you are talking about.