Horus Heresy: How to Build a Legion - Alpha Legion

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  • @christopherschlegel6412
    @christopherschlegel6412 2 роки тому +47

    Thank you for going in reverse, being an Alpha legion fan first and foremost, I had anticipated not having any videos like this one for months because most would be going in numerical order.

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому +11

      So welcome! I was so tempted to skip Salamanders cause they're just not that popar, but it felt a bit unfair 😅 But apparently people LOVE the Alpha Legion! As they should!

    • @graffpov
      @graffpov 2 роки тому +2

      Thats cause nobody knows about alpha)

    • @HeartlessNinny1
      @HeartlessNinny1 2 роки тому +2

      Hydra Dominatus!

  • @SEIRRA035
    @SEIRRA035 2 роки тому +48

    This is a super useful video to me, as I’m starting an AL force myself. One thing I’ll note is that a couple of the original Gal Vorbak were infiltrating Alpha Legionaries. All but one died, and he informed his legion. It is perfectly fluffy to have AL Gal Vorbak. Pretty sure it’s in Book 8 Malevolence

  • @FlourEater
    @FlourEater 2 роки тому +60

    their legion trait is more powerful than it seems really. Those extra 2" are super important (that´s what she said), especially for charge rolls.
    Love the vid, looking forward for other legions!

    • @Swarbie8D
      @Swarbie8D 2 роки тому +9

      Plenty of reactions (and Advanced Reactions) require the triggering unit to be within 12”. The trait really lets you mess with those, kiting around 10.5” away from enemy units

    • @TheExcessus
      @TheExcessus 2 роки тому +4

      don't forget melta or rapid fire rules. :)

  • @highmarshalbalian680
    @highmarshalbalian680 2 роки тому +12

    Happy you started with the first active legion and found Primarch!

  • @jackurquhart7994
    @jackurquhart7994 2 роки тому +28

    im very glad im doing two legions, iron warriors and alpha legion, it allows me to use anything i want, as while a spartan wont be useful for my AL, my iron warriors would love it, its also goods so i can use all my armour marks, 4 and 6 for AL and 2 and 3 for my IW

    • @tn00bz
      @tn00bz 2 роки тому

      I think I'm doing the same with IW and either EC or SoH!

    • @crimsonknight7011
      @crimsonknight7011 2 роки тому

      Mark 4 is my favorite

    • @jackurquhart7994
      @jackurquhart7994 2 роки тому

      @@crimsonknight7011 yeah I do like the look mk 4 has, my 3 is my fav tho

    • @Endorfas
      @Endorfas 2 роки тому +1

      I've been thinking of making half of the box Alpha Legion and the other half into Iron Warriors. Any advice if that would be a good idea? The idea would be to use The Rewards of Treachery

  • @jamessimpson9798
    @jamessimpson9798 2 роки тому +7

    thank you very much for starting with the true first and last Legion.the most mysterious
    I've found it difficult to find content like this for my most cherished defenders of Humanities Long plan... two amazing built ideas explained clearly for all. Building my force's since '17. Always bring the Primarch Alpharius

  • @disturbansbrother6493
    @disturbansbrother6493 2 роки тому +9

    Im excited for this! I have chosen alpha legion too so excited to see what you go with!

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому +5

      We will grow together!

    • @Kaanfight
      @Kaanfight 2 роки тому +2

      I did too, I got a 40K alpha legion army and I’m going to have my 30k army be them before the heresy. I’m so excited!

    • @disturbansbrother6493
      @disturbansbrother6493 2 роки тому +1

      @@Kaanfight nice i sold my 40k alpha legion a while ago so gonna try make it crossover to both!

    • @Kaanfight
      @Kaanfight 2 роки тому +1

      @@disturbansbrother6493 alpha legion heresy stuff is probably the easiest to parlay into 40K cuz the legion isn’t the most chaos-y, so it’s a good choice

    • @disturbansbrother6493
      @disturbansbrother6493 2 роки тому +1

      @@Kaanfight exactly! Plus with the new traitor guard im looking forward to a vraksian style force! Are you doing a very different 30k and 40k army?

  • @Boyzdontcry
    @Boyzdontcry 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much for this ! Such a clear, precise, and usefull video !
    I like the way you always keep fluff and fun in mind.

  • @philippemichelhely
    @philippemichelhely 2 роки тому +1

    These guides for every legion are amazing. Can’t wait for the Iron Hands. You’ve gained a subscriber.

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Take a bit of work but I reckon they'll be mighty handy for a lot of people.

  • @genericusername5001
    @genericusername5001 2 роки тому +1

    Very informative and easy to understand for a new player still deciding on which legion to pick. Thanks!

  • @Lord-Supreme_Branden
    @Lord-Supreme_Branden 2 роки тому +21

    Hey just so you know it was mentioned at some point in lore that the one of the legionnaires that became a gal vorbak was an alpha legion spy.

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому +5

      Love it!! Reference!!!???

    • @Lord-Supreme_Branden
      @Lord-Supreme_Branden 2 роки тому +9

      The Confessions of the Hydra
      An alpha legion soldier gets caught after the Siege of terra and interrogated. Tells them that they knew about the Word Bearers involvement with the Warp since the beginning and they had spy's in the Serrated sun on their trip into the warp. With one managing to get back to the alpha legion to tell them about the what happened. (All survivors turning into possessed including himself.)

    • @seanzlatev1560
      @seanzlatev1560 2 роки тому +1

      @@Lord-Supreme_Branden I can't find it online, do you have any links?

    • @Lord-Supreme_Branden
      @Lord-Supreme_Branden 2 роки тому +7

      It's in the 8th black book malevolence from forge worlds.

  • @seriouslysampson
    @seriouslysampson 2 роки тому

    Excellent video mate - waiting with anticipation for Raven Guard!

  • @tn00bz
    @tn00bz 2 роки тому

    Thank you for existing BBG, can't wait for more legions!

  • @diecast667
    @diecast667 2 роки тому

    Loving your HH videos, can't wait for the World Eaters video!

  • @Lukelea13
    @Lukelea13 2 роки тому

    this was amazing buddy. thank you I'm sold on Alpha legion now

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому

      Awesome! Don't watch the others! They might sway you :P

    • @Lukelea13
      @Lukelea13 2 роки тому +1

      @@blackbriargaming5483 i can be all the others through Alpha legion

  • @HeartlessNinny1
    @HeartlessNinny1 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome! Hydra Dominatus!

  • @bigkahuna1510
    @bigkahuna1510 2 роки тому

    Awesome video man! I'm so glad to see some awesome and flavorful rules for one if the coolest legions. Now I can only home they get as much love in 40k

  • @skalathrax
    @skalathrax 2 роки тому +1

    love the vids, can't wait for the sons of horus one

  • @bequakynskagroupie3751
    @bequakynskagroupie3751 2 роки тому +3

    Again, second best legion after the III’rd. Definitely going to at least make a smaller army of these dudes. Just read the book ‘Legion’ on audible. The Cabal was also super tight :)

  • @Nillereh
    @Nillereh 2 роки тому

    In reference to 15:00, after upgrading 10 of the new beakies using the Headhunter bits, it's a fair bit of conversion. The whole thing of the beakies not having their left hand and their chests/legs being one piece makes it a real pain in the ass to deal with. But it DOES look really nice
    Thanks for the video mate, it was great info for a new HH player like me!

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому +1

      I was actually just looking at this tonight! As I've put my first 5 MkVI together. Would be RIGHT pain in the butt. And having to cut down the torsos too. But yeah, I'm guessing the MkIV Headhunters would look a bit sad and stumpy next to their beaky brothers, so probably worth the effort.

    • @Kaanfight
      @Kaanfight 2 роки тому

      @@blackbriargaming5483 tbh I just kitbashed them with combi bolters using extras I had left over from my cataphractii in the box. They look cool and I can’t wait to clean them up with green stuff!

  • @Darkcocospartan
    @Darkcocospartan 2 роки тому

    Heyyyy that’s my art work 🤣! Cheers for this in-depth video buddy very helpful

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому

      And it's SICK! I try to keep the artists' signatures on when they're there, so hopefully I didn't cut it off!? And thanks!

  • @pitbuell7959
    @pitbuell7959 2 роки тому +1

    That just solved all the problems of my main alpha legion miniature collection. Loyalist Headhunter Leviathal with various volkite squads, Angels tears through Rewards of Treason and thanks to Moebius I can add in a Knight Errant with some Sisters of Silence... Definitely a surprise that my loyalist selection transfers directly to the tabletop.
    As for the Traitor force, think of more of a Iron Warriors style force with a squad of Kakophoni, ordnance (medusa and vindicator), assault squads, dreadnoughts and I might have to add in a Spartan and a Cerberus next to the Terrax pattern assault drill...
    Overall really happy with the rules vs the previous mutable tactics...

    • @Orlunu
      @Orlunu 2 роки тому +1

      Morbius config gives you Fellow Warriors with "any allied detachment that has any version of the Legiones Astartes (x) special rule", no? Doubt a Talons detachment would qualify as such.

    • @pitbuell7959
      @pitbuell7959 2 роки тому

      @@Orlunu lol, i totally overlooked that.

    • @pitbuell7959
      @pitbuell7959 2 роки тому +1

      Alright, actually awake now... So Morbius would be a wasted trait as it doesn't apply. The important note there is a loyalist force with a loyalist allied detachment. So it's all good. (Can't wait for them to release the rest of the books for proper cross referencing...)

  • @MegaApostel
    @MegaApostel 2 роки тому

    can’t wait for your Thousand Sons, Word Bearer and Salamander list
    i’m new for Heresy but got some units from FW long time ago ^^

  • @leigha3034
    @leigha3034 2 роки тому +5

    Missed opportunity to do the series ALPHAbetical…

  • @Hartefact
    @Hartefact 2 роки тому +4

    I would love to see this done for Dark Angels! With all the wings there are so many ways it could go, and honestly it's hard for me to figure out what to focus on as a new-to-heresy player

    • @lokalnyork
      @lokalnyork 2 роки тому

      I think DA really benefit from 2 (halves) of this box, to really push in particular "wing" direction. Either 80 (yes, in any configuration) of Bolter Dudes with Spartans (exactly 1500 points before any upgrades/extra units) for MAXIMUM STORMWING, or literal Deathwing (20 Terminators, again in 2 Spartans, 1200 base, throw in some MkVI as Veterans) 30K.

  • @Instar_nine
    @Instar_nine 2 роки тому

    I'll be doing everything 😁
    Awesome overview❤️

  • @mikemccoy7931
    @mikemccoy7931 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the vid, will be keeping an eye out for when you do Death Guard

  • @peterchestowski2419
    @peterchestowski2419 2 роки тому

    Finally something for me ;) Alpha Dominatus Brothers

  • @WarzoneMorloc
    @WarzoneMorloc 2 роки тому

    Subscribed. Love your work

  • @GaryP336
    @GaryP336 2 роки тому

    Just found this channel. Great work. Keep em comming (im doing alpha legion too)

  • @jamesderwin
    @jamesderwin 2 роки тому

    Really useful video

  • @lokalnyork
    @lokalnyork 2 роки тому +1

    I love Hydra Ultramarines idea, just stick their decals *upside down*.

  • @loltwest9423
    @loltwest9423 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for putting out this video and doing it in the order that you're doing it. It really helped me focus on what exactly I want to do for my Alpha Legion build. And what do you know? I'm already buying pair of Headhunter Killteams.

  • @stevewowchuk2394
    @stevewowchuk2394 Рік тому

    Didnt see it in the comments, but all 3 units taken by the right of do indeed need to be the same unit. Gw addressed this in a faq

  • @PB-re1mm
    @PB-re1mm 2 роки тому +1

    10x Inner Circle Cenobium, all taking power daggers and thunder hammers to get them to 4 attacks on the charge and 6 on the sarge with digital. Mayhaps even in a spartan with my Lernaeans.

  • @DevilsBrushGaming
    @DevilsBrushGaming 2 роки тому

    great video made me sub straight away

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! They're a bit of work to put together but I think they'll be really useful. Working on RG now 😊

    • @DevilsBrushGaming
      @DevilsBrushGaming 2 роки тому

      @@blackbriargaming5483 Cant wait to watch, i have able 3k plus of alpha legion and this was a really solid video. Have a couple of other armies, we do love Hersey

  • @Steve_Deadload
    @Steve_Deadload 2 роки тому

    Honestly I'm super intrigued by running a generic ROW legion recon company. Recon squads seem super strong with the extra 2" AL rule, plus beakie marines just beg to have cloaks and suppressors/scopes added to their bolters.

  • @MetzoPaino
    @MetzoPaino 2 роки тому

    Great video! Showing my like and subscribe support now in the hope we get a Death Guard version 🤞

  • @kitten2799
    @kitten2799 2 роки тому

    I was pretty much thinking headhunter leviathal and the mobius configurtation would guide my army building. I will get units that can be used for both, cause they both seem very very cool

  • @childrenofthesun471
    @childrenofthesun471 Рік тому

    I personally went for 10 man Iron Havoc's with Lascannon for my AL as a Reward of Treachery for Headhunter Leviathal

  • @kusanagi54321
    @kusanagi54321 2 роки тому

    I would love to see something similar for the generic rites of war too.
    I planning to do some combination of White Scars recon force and Alpha Legion headhunters. Not sure which is the primary yet. So I’ll probably end up trading off my spartan for more dreads or some mk 4 marines.

  • @yagsipcc287
    @yagsipcc287 2 роки тому +1

    The main problem with the new HH GW made it seem like this can be split up into two forces so new players will be in a bad way when it comes to having an army aka they wont have an army. They advertised this as a two basic armies going against each other and many people will split a box up as they have done with many boxsets over the decades.

  • @WolfTau
    @WolfTau 2 роки тому

    I recently found out about the Blackshields. I wonder how they would work out in HH?

  • @EM-tx7qm
    @EM-tx7qm 2 роки тому

    I have Alpharius and I want to include a Fellblade and one contemptor dread naught
    Any suggestions for filling out the rest of the list?
    Fantastic video !

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому +1

      You'll struggle to put Alpharius and a Fellblade in the one list, as there's a restriction on percentage of points. Obviously depends on points level, but check out the rule around it so that you're prepared. Alpharius LOVES dreadnoughts. He has this cheeky rule where he can make them deepstriking. Now. Self regulation is key here. I think three deep striking dreadnoughts is enough for any list, and taken as one talon, gives you elite slots to fill out with other cool stuff. Alpharius needs a retinue, terminators are best, they can deep strike with him too. From there it's just down to taste. Alpha Legion loves headhunter kill teams, long range firepower, anything armed with a nemesis bolter. You do you! :D

  • @user-rz8gx3fh1p
    @user-rz8gx3fh1p 2 роки тому +1

    I am planning on a unit of red Butchers :)

  • @onepingyboi9363
    @onepingyboi9363 2 роки тому +2

    Can you mix the coils of the hydra and the mobius configuration? If so how does it work?

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому +3

      Sure can! And I have no idea 😅 I imagine the allied detachment also starts in reserve. But who can say??

    • @onepingyboi9363
      @onepingyboi9363 2 роки тому

      @@blackbriargaming5483 Nice! I love the idea of a legion getting ready for a fight only for half of their force to be Alpha Legionnaires and they have no choice but to just roll with it lol.

  • @GMTemplar
    @GMTemplar 2 роки тому

    Well, it turned out the mkVI of the core box are not that great for Headhunters. The palm of the left hand is attached to their bolters so switching in the FW combi-bolters, which don't have palms on them, is quite problematic.

  • @walterburdzy5408
    @walterburdzy5408 2 роки тому

    I'm curious if the keywords line up to let a squad of Contekar Terminators be the warlord in an alpha Legion list. I'd love to have The Coils of the Hydra that started on the board with 3 set of treacherous different terminators including the warlord(s).

  • @Dragsnpr
    @Dragsnpr 2 роки тому

    At least one of the original Gal Vorbak were a Alpha Legionaries in disguise, I believe only one escaped the WB and then returned to the Legion to undergo voluntary vivisection so the Legion could learn how to make more.

  • @Valreg
    @Valreg 2 роки тому +1

    I’m tempted to convert the Cataphratii squad of the box into a Lernean squad to throw into the spartan. Plus I have a terminator praetor that a friend gave to me which fuels that fire.

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому +1

      There's probably some good 3D print options out there for the weapons?!

    • @Valreg
      @Valreg 2 роки тому +2

      @@blackbriargaming5483 I already found some and waiting on the delivery. I can also make some easily make some headhunter kill teams too.

  • @Plaukainis
    @Plaukainis Рік тому

    Excellent video. I've started a Salamanders Legion but am a little let down by their rules. (and fluff tbh). Would you say they are a good choice for Mobius? The Pyroclasts and Firedrakes are a tad pricey though and require transports :(

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  Рік тому

      A pyroclast heavy force makes for a great Mobius choice as your opponent HAS to deal with them, especially if you've made them line. You do have to be creative with getting them up the table though, depending on your opponent.

    • @Plaukainis
      @Plaukainis Рік тому

      @@blackbriargaming5483 well, I've always used Rhino's. So not that creative :D

  • @vincemattana
    @vincemattana 4 місяці тому

    I have a unit of Suzerain I want to use in a Headhunter Leviathal detatchment - can I have them in a Spartan?

  • @leestride2285
    @leestride2285 Рік тому

    Can you use a unit from a loyalist legion - there's a lot of cool options if you can!

  • @impropertoast8603
    @impropertoast8603 Рік тому

    Per the FAQ all the units you pick for the Coils of the Hydra from a different legion have to be all the same unit IE 3x tyrant terminators.

  • @jamescollinge5043
    @jamescollinge5043 2 роки тому

    Has losing Specialist Weapon on the power dagger persuaded anybody to put something other than a power fist as the second CCW on their tac squads?

  • @MLaak86
    @MLaak86 2 роки тому +3

    Interesting, I thought Alpha would have a kinda generalist playstyle vs leaning into something in particularly like the sorta Infantry heavy DG and IW they're up against for my primary Legion slot

  • @Khurzan72
    @Khurzan72 Рік тому

    Coils of the Hydra: Rewards of Treachery was ruled that all of the units must be the same unit, not just from the same legion. Its pretty much a junk Rite of War now.

  • @runamuck840
    @runamuck840 2 роки тому +1

    If I don't use alpharius what is a good hq then?

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому +1

      Preator or Dynat (who has a mini version of Alpharius shenanigans) if you want to run a RoW. Both work fine. If you're not planning on running a RoW, you could skip them and go the cheaper option. It comes down to consuls that mess with the enemy/support your own plans. Master of Signals does SO much if you're not deep striking. Exodus/Vigilator are both excellent.

  • @JxMag
    @JxMag 2 роки тому

    A friend and I are splitting the Age of Darkness box set. I am going alpha legion and he is still undecided. Which is the best loyalist and traitor legion for him to pick to utilize the opposite units that I will use as alpha legion? We are both brand new to warhammer. Assume we know nothing. Please help! Thank you.

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому

      Ha ha, what units are you looking at using?! If he's taking the Spartan and Terminators I would recommend either Sons of Horus, Space Wolves or Iron Hands, though there's plenty of other options.

  • @ignitedxblaze
    @ignitedxblaze 2 роки тому

    good choice to start from the last, unless that's what you want us to think like an alpha legionnaire

  • @juan_grande_128
    @juan_grande_128 2 роки тому

    How to build wb pls

  • @simian872
    @simian872 2 роки тому

    Whats the best legion with the starter set, maybe with the kratos too?

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому +2

      Dark Angels, Iron Hands (though I don't love the beak for the 10th), Imperial Fists and Sons of Horus all seem like great contenders just off the top of my head.

  • @MrCitizen0
    @MrCitizen0 2 роки тому

    What's the name of those flying bikes with the coils un the front? I wanna order some

  • @nukem8128
    @nukem8128 2 роки тому

    Looking forward to emo batman!

  • @runamuck840
    @runamuck840 2 роки тому

    Would using the contemptor in the head hunter Leviathal rite of war be a good Idea along with Alpharius or bad this is for 1k point games by the way

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому

      You can only include Alpharius in games 2000pt and over 😊

    • @runamuck840
      @runamuck840 2 роки тому

      @@blackbriargaming5483 that's an actual rule? Where can I find it

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому

      @@runamuck840 pg 279 of the rulebook 👍

    • @runamuck840
      @runamuck840 2 роки тому

      @@blackbriargaming5483 isn't there a rite of war called primarchs chosen which negates said effect?

    • @blackbriargaming5483
      @blackbriargaming5483  2 роки тому

      @@runamuck840 not that im aware of? 😅

  • @Orlunu
    @Orlunu 2 роки тому

    Noteworthy disgusting Morbius Config combos:
    White Scars Sagyar Mazan slightly wastes an effect (no VP for enemy killing your units) but is very fluffy, makes your speedbump units even faster and gives them an inherent 5+ FnP.
    Raven Guard Decapitation Strike: This is the big lad. They double up on your Slay the Warlord bonus VP - 4 extra VP total on Slay the Warlord and another extra VP if you can get all your birdbois killed, which you really should be able to as you'll be infiltrating them or jump-packing them natively.

  • @mandulis3410
    @mandulis3410 2 роки тому

    one Point you got wrong the MK VI Marines are bigger than the MK III;IV;V that the upgrade ist for. So I don't think the combining the 2 is a good idea

  • @MrCitizen0
    @MrCitizen0 2 роки тому

    Can I use tyrant siege terminators in my alpha legion? So that counts as 1 I can select 2 more? How many of ea special unit can I use drom the 3 selections.
    Do I make them look like alpha legion as for as colors or do they look like their origin legion?
    Edit nvm I saw the image I color thr siege terminators with alpha legion colors .

  • @trajanfidelis
    @trajanfidelis 2 роки тому

    Hydra Dominatus

  • @Hastein666
    @Hastein666 2 роки тому

    Me playing Dark Angels and Emperor's Children : Noooooooooooooooo

  • @meanmachine6328
    @meanmachine6328 2 роки тому +1

    Alpha legion have one of the best terminator squads
    they are scoring
    Stubborn
    +1 to hit against the enemy unit

    • @mintyaroma987
      @mintyaroma987 2 роки тому

      How is their damange output against other elites?

    • @XxXchrisXxX78
      @XxXchrisXxX78 2 роки тому +1

      @@mintyaroma987 Not good their DPS will be fine but ws4 makes them extremely vulnerable also powerfists cost a massive amount for them and if you don't have them you wont 1 shot other elite termis.
      Their value comes from scoring use them to crush cheaper units defending objectives and use small squads

  • @Orlunu
    @Orlunu 2 роки тому

    First and Last, last is first, as it should be. Aleph-Null.

  • @meanmachine6328
    @meanmachine6328 2 роки тому

    Im trying to find which heresy army makes the most use of dreadnoughts so far im looking at
    Iron hands -1 to wound in shooting, can be healed
    Alpha legion for infiltration, pref enemy, fleet
    World eaters +1 att & 6+ fnp

  • @Ahivalaostia88
    @Ahivalaostia88 2 роки тому

    Well well well.... What do we have here...

  • @batteredwarrior
    @batteredwarrior 10 місяців тому

    Venom SPHERE...not "spear". They are grenades.

  • @mrmatt2466
    @mrmatt2466 8 місяців тому

    lernaen arent that amazing unfortunately

  • @The_skeleton_king
    @The_skeleton_king 8 місяців тому

    Scam