I kind of read that in Tex's voice from the Black Pants Legion. "And then... there's this asshole. The TIE/FO. You know those guys who are so obsessed with their past that they disregard any problems prior designs had? Yeah, the First Order saw the TIE Interceptor and decided that was too good. So they went full Kurita and decided to go with the older style, just slapping some shields and stuff on it and calling it a new model. Because they're lazy. Their other variant literally just has a red stripe on it. But they added a hyperdrive and a rear turret so I guess it's different. But what's even funnier is that they still had their own versions of TIE Interceptors, even gave them to elite pilots instead of mass-producting them. Why, we may never know. Probably because their designer was executed for insulting Papa Snoke's bathrobe. Just look at it. It's ridiculous." "And finally, we have the TIE Dagger. You know when grandpa gets dementia and starts mumbling about the good old days? That's pretty much this ship. Old Palpy's dark side dementia. But hey, they changed the wing shape so it has two wings on either side and a giant fuck-off blaster cannon because snubcraft need to die in one volley. So at least there's that."
If I ever buy an electric car I'm attaching a speaker to it and programming it to play the tiefighter sound effect to replace the missing gas engine. It will be glorious!
Darth Vader: The rebels are unprepared for our attack. Signal Vice-Admiral Thrawn to launch his TIE squadrons immediately. Vice-Admiral Thrawn: This rebel stronghold has no hope of escape! Commence the attack!
I like both the TIE Fighter and the Interceptor as both were very iconic in their shape of design and their screen time in the movies, although the TIE Dagger got a decent amount of screen time in The Rise Of Skywalker, we never get to see what the pilots look like, but hey at least the wings look like Nacho Cheese Doritos (lol, I love the nickname for it, TIE Dorito), but I love the TIE Sticker from Rogue One because it's cool and imposing wings and the way it's only used for atmospheric flight, it reminds me of the German Stuka Dive Bomber with their sirens used in WWII, and those are my favorite TIE's. Good job making this video Eck!
Tie fighter was cheap but far too slow and basic. The cost of training and paying pilots made them a poor choice. Interceptors were significantly better but they should have gone for the advanced as the basic starfighter. The issue with these was not against other fighters but transports with turrets and any ship with missiles.
A great video, very interesting. The TIE is where the Empire screwed up. What they needed was a high quality space superiority fighter like the X wing, not a cheap swarm fighter. The TIE was simply there to protect the star destroyers from bombers and fighter-bombers, as the Empire knew no other capital ship could take on the ISD and survive. Incidentally, the ISD-II also didn't have any CIWS to defend against fighters, and relied on their TIEs. So, what do the Rebels do? They engage with fighters only. The X-wing was their choice, a multi role space superiority fighter with torpedo launchers, hyperdrive, shields, astromech socket and a cup holder, it had all the optional extras. Sure, it was more complex than a TIE, and it wasn't as fast or agile, but it could take more damage and therefore had a much higher kill ratio. Combine this with the torpedo launchers, you could disable an ISD. I quite like the TIE interceptor. It does what it's supposed to do, intercept. It's flaming fast, armed to take out fighters, and it looks pretty cool. It's still a flying coffin though.
@@HomoSolari they are still part of the TIE line (at least according to the canon page in Wookiepedia, and that only the TIE Crawler/Century Tank is canon), but indeed they are not starfighters. We're they built by Sienar Fleet Systems too?
Gotta love the thinking behind the TIE crawler. Take a notoriously frail fighter that's main strength is it's mobility and turn it into a tank. What could possibly go wrong?
I love how he just added the first order tie and dagger in without any voiceover, because the only differences are: THIS ONE BLACK (and also shielded, I think, but don't quote me) and THIS ONE TRIANGLE.
Yeah, the First Order TIE Fighter is basically the regular Imperial TIE Fighter but with shields. The Special Forces TIE Fighter is the regular First Order one, but the reactor is moved to the pylons and doubled, a hyperdrive added, and tail gunner position installed.
I think it was deliberate. His way of making a statement about how there's so little imagination and variety with the Disney Canon ship models that it's not even worth him commenting on.
Another TIE model was the Aleph-class (pondskippers) used by the GA. They were initially designed to counter the Vong's coralskippers, but were produced after the Yuuzhan Vong War concluded.
I gotta admit, I miss your ship battles and comparisons. I know you got a lot of flack from them, but I loved them. They were always well thought out and pretty logical. This video reminded me of them. Really like this one!!
Gotta love how the TIE/ln, TIE Bomber and TIE Phantom are all in the same family despite each being radically different in every way from each other. About the only system they have in common is the front window. :)
The TIE predator would probably make Spacedock have an internal crisis with that giant front silhouette. It's literally saying 'Hey guys! Shoot me! I'm a giant flying target!"
One of my favourites that was not mentioned here is the TIE Phantom from Rebel Assault 2. I played that game constantly growing up, and even got myself a resin model kit of the TIE.
If anyone is curious what the ties in the thumbnail are- 0bby- tie fighter (obviously) 3 ABY -Tie indertictor/punisher. 30 ABY- TIE dagger (you can see it in TROS) and 130 ABY is TIE predator
I would love a video where you compare and contrast various TIE fighter models and talk about who deployed them and such. Even better would be you and Corey teaming up for such a video. You could even make it into a mini series I think. I'd watch the heck out of that!
Also, I feel like you should put more versus videoes like the F-22 Raptor vs some elite tie fighter like the defender and modern attack helicopters vs the separatist droid gunship and the A-10 warthog vs star wars ground armor like separatists tanks, AT-TE and the imperial at-at's
There's one missing one in Legacy: The Sith-Imperial fighter, which is clearly a TIE relative complete will ball, and a lot of visual similarity to the Clawcraft
As for the TIE, I have never liked the classic version so much, but it is the other versions that I like very much aesthetically. As for the models, the TIE / D defender and the TIE / IN interceptor, in addition to being very aesthetically beautiful (in my opinion), can mount shields, and the hyperdrive system, allowing you to fight on a par with the fighters of the republic rebels, the empire was wrong to prefer mass production of the classic version, without shields, life support, hyperdrive, and heavy weapons, and this contributed significantly to its defeat.
Weren' there predecesors in the Old Republic era like the Mark 6 supremecy fighter which looks similar, had a similar function, had 2 ion engines and was extremely maneuverable?
Loved flying my red Royal TIE Interceptor in SWG and the Aggressor was a blast if you had a friend along. Though I've since upgraded to a TIE Defender in X4 SW Interworlds. 😁
My personal favorite TIE variant is the royal Guard TIE Interceptor. It has the striking design of the interceptor, added wing flaps and the crimson color making it look even slicker. The Royal guard Interceptor is superior to the TIE interceptor in pretty much every way including, speed maneuverability, and weaponry, not to mention it had a shield and a hyperdrive.
The only thing I like about the Disney TIEs are the upgrades they made, I've always been a sucker for the eyeballs, but the TIE Silencer looks dope, I really liked TLJ's version
#AskEck As a follow up to my earlier question, was the Imperial Remnant able to build and/or purchase TIE Fighters after the Bastion Accords and/or after joining the Vong War on the G.A's side?
How would Palpatine do in the Warhammer 40k universe? Would he be able to achieve a position of power through either his political skill or for be powers? Or would he be destroyed easily since the Warhammer universe is so much stronger than the Star Wars universe? #askeck
Well, this was disappointing. No talk of the TIEr/b Brute Heavy, the TIE Striker, the TIE Raptor, the TIE Dagger, and complete silence while showing the First Order TIE (don't remember if it was regular or Special Forces). Eckharts is usually so thorough.
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EckhartsLadder what’s the music for ur intro
I dont know it is just with me but some parts of the vídeo had no sound 🤔
Sound cuts out when you start talking about the First Order Garbage.
Was 9:05 to 9:33 supposed to have no voice over or was it intentionally left silent?
Hi Eck, do think you'll do a Timeline comparison: Canon Vs. Legends? Like for example (35 ABY [Canon] vs. 35 ABY [Legends]).
Did the audio cut out at the canon ties for anyone else? Cuz i just got a silent zoom on on the F/O Tie as if to say
"And then theres this asshole"
stashman117 same
It's the equivalent of staring at the guy sitting in the corner in disgust
I kind of read that in Tex's voice from the Black Pants Legion.
"And then... there's this asshole. The TIE/FO. You know those guys who are so obsessed with their past that they disregard any problems prior designs had? Yeah, the First Order saw the TIE Interceptor and decided that was too good. So they went full Kurita and decided to go with the older style, just slapping some shields and stuff on it and calling it a new model. Because they're lazy. Their other variant literally just has a red stripe on it. But they added a hyperdrive and a rear turret so I guess it's different. But what's even funnier is that they still had their own versions of TIE Interceptors, even gave them to elite pilots instead of mass-producting them. Why, we may never know. Probably because their designer was executed for insulting Papa Snoke's bathrobe. Just look at it. It's ridiculous."
"And finally, we have the TIE Dagger. You know when grandpa gets dementia and starts mumbling about the good old days? That's pretty much this ship. Old Palpy's dark side dementia. But hey, they changed the wing shape so it has two wings on either side and a giant fuck-off blaster cannon because snubcraft need to die in one volley. So at least there's that."
@@BoisegangGaming "Their other variant literally just has a red stripe on it" lol bro this is great
@@BoisegangGaming Hah! As soon as I saw Tex's name his voice kicked in.
Now I can't turn it off!
If I ever buy an electric car I'm attaching a speaker to it and programming it to play the tiefighter sound effect to replace the missing gas engine. It will be glorious!
YES
Dew it!
What about the General Lee horn?
YES please XD
Buy me one to please.
Uhh, you got some audio/editing issues near the end of the video Eck. No voiceover for the shots of the sequel TIES and the outro has no music.
I assumed there was just nothing important to say about those last entries.
Gave the canon TIEs just as much of a description as they deserved considering the creativity that went into them
@@mosaic6225 almost like we're not "allowed" to or something
@@CC1138 Its more you all won't shut the fuck up already, you hate it so damn much then go create your own.
Those are dead to him.
When I was a kid I thought they were called TIE Fighters because they looked like bow ties.
I'm pretty sure TIE is a "backronym". They are called TIEs because they look like bowties. The Twin Ion Engine part came after.
Same
Hope they don't get TIE'd up.
Ricky. 🤣😂🤣
Weird looking bowtie.
Tie Predator was such a cool design
Darth Vader: The rebels are unprepared for our attack. Signal Vice-Admiral Thrawn to launch his TIE squadrons immediately.
Vice-Admiral Thrawn: This rebel stronghold has no hope of escape! Commence the attack!
pierce payumo I read that in MIDI
Enough of this charade, Gamma 1 is the Emperor's stool pigeon!
Best video game for star wars
Yes sir
Which game? I can't remember and was kinda wanting to play :(
I like both the TIE Fighter and the Interceptor as both were very iconic in their shape of design and their screen time in the movies, although the TIE Dagger got a decent amount of screen time in The Rise Of Skywalker, we never get to see what the pilots look like, but hey at least the wings look like Nacho Cheese Doritos (lol, I love the nickname for it, TIE Dorito), but I love the TIE Sticker from Rogue One because it's cool and imposing wings and the way it's only used for atmospheric flight, it reminds me of the German Stuka Dive Bomber with their sirens used in WWII, and those are my favorite TIE's. Good job making this video Eck!
Saw FAR too little of Interceptor on screen, yes. But what was there of it, was memorable.
[ In my blog review, I literally called the Dagger an olive with two dorritos... ( : ]
Tie fighter was cheap but far too slow and basic. The cost of training and paying pilots made them a poor choice. Interceptors were significantly better but they should have gone for the advanced as the basic starfighter. The issue with these was not against other fighters but transports with turrets and any ship with missiles.
TIE Hunter will always be my favorite because of Rogue Squadron III.
Same! The TIE Hunter is the coolest TIE variant ever created. A seamless blend of the X-Wing and TIE Interceptor, it is perfect in every way.
You have fantastic taste sir.
I loved the TIE Silencer. Best hyper maneuverable star fighter.
@@virajkadam1684 The TIE Silencer is hideous. A knockoff of the TIE Avenger with a stupid square cockpit and oversized wings.
Well, Avenger DID have a polygonal cockpit, at first...
I swear, I have never seen anyone so dedicated to Tie fighters. Good job.
I like the Tie SF! It just looks cool! TIE BOMBER and regular TIE from Star Wars are cool too!
Your forgot the most important one
The Thai Fighter
Lol
Funny
Liam Walsh space tuktuk
Liam Walsh *slow clap*
They do be havin cute boys doe😳
A great video, very interesting.
The TIE is where the Empire screwed up. What they needed was a high quality space superiority fighter like the X wing, not a cheap swarm fighter. The TIE was simply there to protect the star destroyers from bombers and fighter-bombers, as the Empire knew no other capital ship could take on the ISD and survive. Incidentally, the ISD-II also didn't have any CIWS to defend against fighters, and relied on their TIEs.
So, what do the Rebels do? They engage with fighters only. The X-wing was their choice, a multi role space superiority fighter with torpedo launchers, hyperdrive, shields, astromech socket and a cup holder, it had all the optional extras. Sure, it was more complex than a TIE, and it wasn't as fast or agile, but it could take more damage and therefore had a much higher kill ratio. Combine this with the torpedo launchers, you could disable an ISD.
I quite like the TIE interceptor. It does what it's supposed to do, intercept. It's flaming fast, armed to take out fighters, and it looks pretty cool. It's still a flying coffin though.
Flying Coffin is also the nickname for the RB-79 Ball from the Gundam franchise.
Plus the rebels has the best pilot s
That’s new cannon you are arguing. Plus plot armor. Tie Fighters and Tie interceptors have slightly different roles.
Now this is podracing
What about the ETA-2? It is a precursor to the TIE
Was wondering exactly this. Where are the Kuat Delta Classes?
If I had to pick, my Favorite is the Tie Phantom.
Honourable mention to the bowTie fighter & Tie Dye fighters.
Wasnt the Tie Tank a thing?
Yeah, I think it was called the Tie Mauler. It's in Empire at War.
Well the TIE Crawler and the TIE Mauler don’t count as starfighters
@@HomoSolari they are still part of the TIE line (at least according to the canon page in Wookiepedia, and that only the TIE Crawler/Century Tank is canon), but indeed they are not starfighters. We're they built by Sienar Fleet Systems too?
Gotta love the thinking behind the TIE crawler.
Take a notoriously frail fighter that's main strength is it's mobility and turn it into a tank. What could possibly go wrong?
I knew I wasnt losing it!!!
9:07 audio cuts out but music stays on, is that it for the last two?, then audio comesback at 9:34?
#AskEck
*Attempt 727*
Remember to do the Forerunners vs The Imperium of Man.
I love how he just added the first order tie and dagger in without any voiceover, because the only differences are: THIS ONE BLACK (and also shielded, I think, but don't quote me) and THIS ONE TRIANGLE.
The TIE Dagger is a very cool and new design. If that's really the reason than it's quite stupid
Yeah, the First Order TIE Fighter is basically the regular Imperial TIE Fighter but with shields. The Special Forces TIE Fighter is the regular First Order one, but the reactor is moved to the pylons and doubled, a hyperdrive added, and tail gunner position installed.
@@fuckinantipope5511 I never said it was a bad design. I just said it was a triangle.
@@attilathehun5067 too bad Disney ripped it from fan designs it's not original
The TIE model that I actually like from the ST era is the TIE Silencer. Too bad they changed it in Ep 9...
Um, I think you have some Editing errors, because we don’t hear you say anything about the two canon Tie Fighters and there’s no music in the outtro
I think it was deliberate. His way of making a statement about how there's so little imagination and variety with the Disney Canon ship models that it's not even worth him commenting on.
LTrain 45 Disgrace
@@Walpurgis117 The new canon designs have had just as much creativity.
Blue Ranger that’s the point sergeant.
LTrain 45 Lmfao
I think that the Tie Phantom is my favourite model it was pretty unique when next to standard Imperial ships
I can hear every TIE fighter sound in my head even when you’re speaking
The Canon segment has no audio; as does the outro.
I thought my headphones broke, glad someone else pointed it out
Disney canon is vacuous? Perfect analogy
the music is still there but no v/o
Pretty lazy move for Eck to just not cover any of the canon TIE variants despite having it in the title of the video.
FlipDarkFuture pretty sure that was an editing mistake.
Suggestion:
Master Chief(Halo) vs General Blue(Dragon Ball)
I think you made an error in video editing, there's just two shots at the end with no talking over them. You're also missing your normal end music.
Another TIE model was the Aleph-class (pondskippers) used by the GA. They were initially designed to counter the Vong's coralskippers, but were produced after the Yuuzhan Vong War concluded.
Aww, everyone's favorite dickey bow of doom...
I like the Royal Guard TIE/IN interceptor, TIE/D Defender and TIE/rb(brute) heavy starfighter XD
The tie phantom is my favorite tie model
I gotta admit, I miss your ship battles and comparisons. I know you got a lot of flack from them, but I loved them. They were always well thought out and pretty logical. This video reminded me of them. Really like this one!!
I love the Chiss Claw Craft!! I had to make my own in 3D space, my icon, I loved it so much lol
"This is not even my final form!"
The Predator looks like a giant eyeball
In Legends, Rebel pilots called Tie Fighters "Eyeballs" and interceptors "Squints." I am not suprised.
Gotta love how the TIE/ln, TIE Bomber and TIE Phantom are all in the same family despite each being radically different in every way from each other. About the only system they have in common is the front window. :)
As much as I kinda dislike the new trilogy, I've gotta admit, they got the best looking TIE fighters. But the best overall is Vader's TIE fighter.
*Looks at the TIE Dagger, and other garbage.* "Uh....Tie Defender and Hunter look better to me.
@@ceilyurie856 lemme get this settled. What I meant was "Disney era TIEs"
@@NoCluYT Defender is from Legends
kim doan it’s canon now. Well. If you count rebels as canon.
@@jacobbundy5256 Yes of course, I just wanted to point out that TIE Defender is legends first
I like how the Tie Dagger has red paintings to show the sith influence
The TIE predator would probably make Spacedock have an internal crisis with that giant front silhouette. It's literally saying 'Hey guys! Shoot me! I'm a giant flying target!"
That ending was quite..
I’ve been waiting for this update :)
Ty eck I’ve been asking for this for weeks since your every era of stormtrooper vid
I've always held a special place in my heart for TIE Fighters, but I don't know why
They’ve got this feeling to it
The TIE/gt, TIE Vanguard, and T.I.E Fighter are very underrated…
Surprised there was no reference to TIE Advanced or the Tie Experimentals from the games.
Zaarin will not be pleased...
I am supposed to clean the house, but it looks like I’m all Tie’d up
Besides! Who can resist this sweet sweet theme music ❤️❤️❤️🥰
One of my favourites that was not mentioned here is the TIE Phantom from Rebel Assault 2. I played that game constantly growing up, and even got myself a resin model kit of the TIE.
Yes, my first SW game. Got the FFG model, too.
If anyone is curious what the ties in the thumbnail are- 0bby- tie fighter (obviously) 3 ABY -Tie indertictor/punisher. 30 ABY- TIE dagger (you can see it in TROS) and 130 ABY is TIE predator
Listening to this while watching Raw
Wow, I’m extremely early
I would love a video where you compare and contrast various TIE fighter models and talk about who deployed them and such. Even better would be you and Corey teaming up for such a video. You could even make it into a mini series I think. I'd watch the heck out of that!
My favorite personally is the Tie Striker for its slick looks and specialization
My favorite's the TIE Predator.
Why am I not subbed to this man already?
RIP tie striker
TIE Crawler!
I'd thought the ETA 2 would of been the first kind of TIE.
Also, I feel like you should put more versus videoes like the F-22 Raptor vs some elite tie fighter like the defender and modern attack helicopters vs the separatist droid gunship and the A-10 warthog vs star wars ground armor like separatists tanks, AT-TE and the imperial at-at's
There's one missing one in Legacy: The Sith-Imperial fighter, which is clearly a TIE relative complete will ball, and a lot of visual similarity to the Clawcraft
TIE Predator, yes.
@@chrissonofpear1384 The one that the Sith introduced as a replacement/counterpart to the Predator
You missed the TIE lancer, And the imperial TIE cockpitted tread tank
the video covers TIE fighters not TIE tanks or artillery.
As for the TIE, I have never liked the classic version so much, but it is the other versions that I like very much aesthetically.
As for the models, the TIE / D defender and the TIE / IN interceptor, in addition to being very aesthetically beautiful (in my opinion), can mount shields, and the hyperdrive system, allowing you to fight on a par with the fighters of the republic rebels, the empire was wrong to prefer mass production of the classic version, without shields, life support, hyperdrive, and heavy weapons, and this contributed significantly to its defeat.
Nice!
Weren' there predecesors in the Old Republic era like the Mark 6 supremecy fighter which looks similar, had a similar function, had 2 ion engines and was extremely maneuverable?
How large was the CIS navy in the Expanded Universe Clone Wars?
Always liked the Phantom and Defender series
The fav of mine was Tie striker! It looked very cool and is probably very viable
I got the notification while watching the video
My favorite is easily the TIE Defender. You can drop it in just about any era or continuity and it can still compete.
My favorite tie fighters are the tie hunter, tie defender, and the inquisitor’s tie advanced prototype.
Loved flying my red Royal TIE Interceptor in SWG and the Aggressor was a blast if you had a friend along. Though I've since upgraded to a TIE Defender in X4 SW Interworlds. 😁
With the mouse owning starwars everyting is legends
love you bro
Rebel Alloance fleet (Endor) VS Separatist Alliance Fleet (Serreno)
-Full Complement Of Weapons,armament systems and StarFigthers for both fleets
My personal favorite TIE variant is the royal Guard TIE Interceptor. It has the striking design of the interceptor, added wing flaps and the crimson color making it look even slicker. The Royal guard Interceptor is superior to the TIE interceptor in pretty much every way including, speed maneuverability, and weaponry, not to mention it had a shield and a hyperdrive.
Throwback to when all we had was excitement for the sequels... before the dark times
before the Disney
It's just Juan I thought the sequels where good movies just not good Star Wars movies
The imperial army era's, they don't get enough attention
3:05 is there any better footage of that tie transport? Is it seen anywhere else in the movies?
I’ve always liked the tie interceptor.
Have actually always been a fan of the Interceptor.
That otaking77077 video is still so damn awesome.
The only thing I like about the Disney TIEs are the upgrades they made, I've always been a sucker for the eyeballs, but the TIE Silencer looks dope, I really liked TLJ's version
TIE Striker is my favorite.
I see the Tie Fighter as the Dodge Aries K of the Star Wars fighters. Base frame and motor used with many bodies.
Aw, no audio on the outro, it’s my favorite outro of all time
Do STAR WARS versus :
The high ground VS *THOSE WRIST ROCKETS* !
No audio from 9:08 to 9:32. Did something go wrong?
This is the First Order TIE Fighter. We don't talk about it.
In case you wonder about ABY AND BBY ...
*BBY before blowing (up) your-deathstar*
*ABY after blowing (up) your-deathstar*
Erm did the canon section voice over and outro not play for anyone else?
It was meant
Also the empire used the I7 Howlrunner, Scimitar Assault Bombers and the A9 Interceptor
Always loved the TIE Defender from playing TIE Fighter back in the day. That thing would have destroyed the rebels if it was built in numbers.
Damn i love eckhartsladder content
Also sorry justin but had to expose ur name
#AskEck As a follow up to my earlier question, was the Imperial Remnant able to build and/or purchase TIE Fighters after the Bastion Accords and/or after joining the Vong War on the G.A's side?
How would Palpatine do in the Warhammer 40k universe? Would he be able to achieve a position of power through either his political skill or for be powers? Or would he be destroyed easily since the Warhammer universe is so much stronger than the Star Wars universe? #askeck
Commissar Gazma did that.
TL;DW summary:. Palpatine becomes a Daemon Prince of Tzneetch
@@akumaking1 Yup. Tzeentch would *loooooooooove* Palpatine.
Defender ftw!
Can we get a video comparing how old starfighters in the old republic or before days to the more modern ones?
TIE/rb is my current favorite
My favourite TIE’s were defender and phantom.
When the sequels don’t even deserve Eck’s beautiful voiceover
Well, this was disappointing. No talk of the TIEr/b Brute Heavy, the TIE Striker, the TIE Raptor, the TIE Dagger, and complete silence while showing the First Order TIE (don't remember if it was regular or Special Forces). Eckharts is usually so thorough.
What is the game called in the background