Ski Boot Fit
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2021
- This is a very in-depth video about ski boot fit. The video looks far beyond the simplistic videos you find about saying but instead details the problems with how ski boots are manufactured and how foot beds are seen as the answer to all the problems people have with ski boots.
I dive into a details look at the fit and what is stopping you from making the turns you desire.
#ski boot fit #ski equipment #learn to ski
00.00 Intro
05.40 Shell Fit
08.10 Ramp Angle and Flex
08.00 Measuring Ankle Mobility
32.00 Inner liner and Shaft alignment
37.00 How we pronate and why the bones of the foot are so important
42.20 Tripod of the Foot
45.20 An analogy from the gym
52.30 Physics and Levers
1.03.00 Arches and Footbeds
1.14.00 Shaft alignment
1.20.10 Why this matters in Skiing.
1.24.30 Outro - Спорт
As you can see this goes far beyond the standard boot fit you might be used to. Do you think you could get the level of service from a shop that might be needed to get the best boot fit possible for you? Do you think that even the most experienced and best boot fitters are still at the mercy of badly manufactured boots and are victim to the fact that they are not likely to be in the ski resort where you will ski when first using the boots? Let me know some of your nightmare boots and have you found a boot and fitter that works for you.
may boots fischer plug flex 150 last 92 length 293 mm thermo plastic 179 -78 kg winter 70 summer
came for a boot fitting tips... after buying them... and got a TEDx Talk about life on two planks... cheers lads, really enjoyed it
😂 thanks for the comment
I did a course with SIA a year or so ago, to say I have a custom set of boots is an understatement. Being able to go back to a boot shop after skiing flat out all day is priceless! I had the boot blown out, molded, stretched, ground out, insoles, footbed lifts and kanting changed. Pretty much everything to give ‘me’ the ideal boot… A good boot fit doesn’t have a price, what does is your enjoyment though… and its a huge difference to how you ski having something fit for ‘you’… although I still go by the saying ‘ski boots are all about pain management and performance not comfort’ 😂
I have been talking about how foot connectivity is so critical to skiing for years. This takes it to a whole other level… fantastic info and Great interaction between the two of you. Jamie’s sense of humor keeps us on our feet. Thanks guys!
I must be too old for Jamie's sense of humour! haha!
@@SIAAustria HAHA! Never too old!!
Ramp angle and forward lean is not just about range of motion, it's about feeling neutrally centered. By that I mean the fore / aft balance feels natural and it means you are 'on it' all the time, ready to ping into a new turn with a subtle movement. This has a lot to do with the physique of the skier, where their center of mass is etc. It is worth experimenting to get this feeling.
Very thought provoking lecture. Would you please clarify or direct me to a resource regarding:
1) the relationship between ramp angle and forward lean and resultant magnitude of responsiveness?
2) where is the anatomical (while wearing a skiboot) fulcrum, load, and effort in the first and second class levers? Specifically, the preferred second class lever.
3) is there something to be said for matching ramp angle to a certain amount of achilles tendon tension in a neutral stance? I.e. engaging golgi apparatus early.
Great stuff! Really enjoyed your thoughts.
Great bunch of information. It helps setting in some pieces of this puzzle.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video! I was a bit surprised by one thing though, and it’s the one thing I was hoping you would spend more time on. Maybe you have another vid on the subject? It wasn’t until the very end you started addressing lateral canting under the foot. I was hoping to get more in depth on this. Specifically, I’m trying to firm up my knowledge about the jargon used by bootfitters: “over edged and underedged.” I think I understand the objective is to optimize weight distribution over the ski laterally so that you have equal access to both edges as needed? I know some bootfitters (hard
to find) will plane the boot sole and use wedges below the sole, thick side in or thick side out, as needed. Or wedges under bindings for touring setup. What really confused me in your video, was that after your explanation about why footbeds can be a bad idea, (I agree), the only intervention you showed for lateral stance alignment correction was an inside the boot, under foot adjustment. Can you share any information in this seeming contradiction in your approach? Or direct me to other videos of yours I may have misssed. Love your content. You are great, thanks!!!
Good job guys.
Cheers Tom. looking forward to the next collaboration! :)
Great lecture. I like how you guy emphasize the connectivity of the different joints. Too long and often have I been told from ausbilder and L4 instructors about pushing or driving my knees into the turn without any mention of maintaining ankle tension, and therefore losing the force transfer and my athletic stance.
p.s. you forgot to cut out a part at 43:00
Great video!
Thanks for the feedback! Sorry about the 43.00 haha! I like how you also see how important the tension is over simply using the wrong cue.
HI there thanks so much for this lecture, I used to race at a high level however I stopped as I preferred disciplines such as touring which lead me to buy a softer touring boot which I had fitted in japan, however after skiing this them I then developed patella tracking disorder in both knees which I still suffer from. for this season I was planning on getting another pair of boots that can help with this such as talked about at around 1:18:00 do you have any suggestions on what to ask for at the boot fitter and/ how to tell if they know what there talking about as I feel like I have been a victim of a poor boot fitment in japan wich as caused this injury many thanks. love the channel
It is so difficult to play your trust in someone's hands that you do not really know. I am hoping the information in this video will help you develop your awareness to the point that you know if someone has your best interest in mind or are they just selling a boot. Any person including myself will need information to be able to help someone with their boot fit but often the client can not articulate accurately what is going on with their skiing and with their body awareness. A suggesting might be is finding a good sports physio who can look closely look at your range of movement and your alignment and perhaps this person may be able to explain how you can best in lay term pass this information over to the boot fitter. The Patella should be able to migrate in all directions as you flex and stretch..... I shall go into more detail in future videos. I shall also talk about how to find a boot fitter that you can have some faith in. Good luck this season!
Thanks for sharing. I liked very detailed info and excelent sound quality. I wonder how (and if?) bootfitting relate to the ski witdh. Do we need two difrent setups for 70 and 105mm skis?
Thanks for the comments Jerzy. If a boot has 70mm under foot it is likely it is a relatively race/carve set up ski whereas the ski with 105 under foot will be far softer and more setup for deeper or softer snow. With this in mind a boot that matches the performance limitations and strengths of the ski would be optimal but not everyone can afford 2 or 3 pairs of boots and skis to change as the conditions or the skiing style changes day to day. I think your comment is important and warrants further explanation. I shall add it to the podcast list.
Thanks for sharing this extremely informative video! What role does a booster strap have on connectivity and power transfer?
I will need to tackle this in another video as it is important when so many people are making significant additional problems by messing about with this important piece of the boot.
@@SIAAustria for my entire skiing career Ive always replaced the stock straps with Booster straps and tightened all four buckles to get the most compact feel, but after seeing your video I cant wait to try skiing with looser buckles and strap, especially the top two straps to see how it will affect my range of movements!
Usually in moguls I loosen the top two straps to gain forward lean, but never thought about doing this for regular carved turns!
Again thanks for your kind response and videos!
Great lecture! One question: is the forward lean of the boot related to the calf size?
In other words, when a tall person with a high or skinny calf has to tighten the top buckle at the narrowest setting, can this affect the forward stance? I see the tibia giving the forward lean angle, and since the tibia is touching the front of the boot, that changes it position depending on the buckle position.
In this case, can a spoiler on the back of the liner be sufficient to artificially increase the size of the calf and restore the boot intended forward lean?
Thanks for the comment Alex. The spoiler could act in this way but finding a boot that better fits from the start around the calf would be my recommendation. There are many manufacturers and finding one that suits without to much "space/volume filling" would be best. It is one thing to punch out or blow out a boot but another when padding and filling a void.
Awesome, awesome lecture! I just didn't get it if your knee is tracking outward which way to tilt the shaft, out?
Thanks for the feedback- let me answer the question on a future video
Any recommendations for a boot fitter in Sölden?
You mentioned compression socks. I'm skiing with Smartwool Compression phd Ultra Light socks which I found out are discontinued now! No cushion anywhere, indestructible (probably why they don't want to make them any more) high wool contend compression socks. What socks do you recommend in fact now that my favorite is out?
I am using Boot Doc but to be honest as long as the sock fits smoothly and is relatively snug I find most work. Most important for me is that they are thin. That said you are right, my socks wear our quickly and sometimes as they are so think my toe nail tears them at the front.
I had a weird experience skiing last week where I couldn't get out of the backseat and fried my quads real quick. I figured it was bc it was warm and conditions were trash, but I've skied these conditions before and didn't have this happen. I started wondering if it had something to do with my boots and the way they fit. Could this have been the case?
It could of course be a boot issue. Especially if you use hire boots or these boots were new to you. Then again boots are just one of many important variables that can effect our skiing.
A big takeaway for future videos: don’t interrupt your ski instructor (Jamie) when he is making good points, which was all of his points. We have a problem all over the world with people interrupting each other in dialogue; people feel speech pressured these days. It makes for high conflict conversations.
You can easily see from Jamie’s body language, though he is pretty cool about it, that he doesn’t like being treated this way. I am guessing he may not return to be treated this way again. He is an expert too.
Otherwise, excellent information.
thanks for the feedback. We are never to old to learn David!
All "Too-stiff" boots can be softened.
fuckin Paul ruined that spoiler position eh? classic Paul
may stance is cuff forwat lean 12 degrees foot boart ramp angle -0-invertet -1 -degree cuff -1-outwart reason to increase reverse hips rotateing square hips durning lateral inclainet legs to insaide of the turn insaide hip up outsaide hip upper body down hill separated waist to prevent flexing ankles durning lateral set edges to soon and dump upper body up hill hip down i set edges apex of the turn from flat skis after complate lateral not partial evry turn finish and start new turn from down hill ski not up hill i dont flex ankles i rotate from edget set skis to flat in lateral transition i flex hips and pelvis forwart down to set edges insaide hip back down to recenter to flat skis accelerate out the turn down hill not on edget skis on daiagnol
So...what was the final verdict on forward lean? Very confusing and all over the place. Also, this guy is so disrespectful.