As a professional boot fitter I can say there was very little scientific information in this video. They only mention alignment and cuff angles. No mention of boot sole canting/ grinding to level the boot if needed. Boot shell and liners are heated and stretched. Many racers start with a plug boot which is then custom fit by the teams boot fitter. I am fortunate to have a sales representative that was a boot fitter for the US ski team so I know there is so much information that was not presented in this video.
why should i get the comfiest and warmest boots if i'm not a racer? I do ski in race boots because it's way more fun as you have the best control possible. I'm a very good skier, but not a racer
Cat Tracks..!! I still use my Salomon Force 7 Rear Entry ski boots since I bought them back in 1992 in Mannheim, Germany 🇩🇪. Since new, I have always used Cat Tracks to protect the bottom of my ski boots.
Everyone--including mere mortals--can benefit from a few tweaks to make your feet feel better and have better control of your skis. Custom footbeds provide a stable platform for your foot and compensates for high arches or flat feet. Canting can provide a neutral stance in order to stand flat on your skis. No one has perfect, symmetrical feet and legs. You can do a lot better for yourself than looking for the softest, fluffiest boots.
I have had boot issues my entire life, I have had every brand and have had lots of boot work performed. Two years ago I changed to Atomic Hawks 130 and they are perfect. No more boot issues. They heat the shells and liners to fit your feet.
+1 Love my FT. After getting custom footbeds. very easy to fit and customize to my previously shattered ankle. Great to be able to swap out tongues for stiffness depending if I'm just cruising or want to spend the day in the moguls.
OMG let the poor guy speak. Not even sure why she invited the guy on the video other than to call him names and make fun of him. Too bad as I was looking forward to hearing the science from him...
Been skiing for more than 30 years but only as a holiday thing - 3 or 4 years ago I went without my all mountain flex 130 boots and I rented a racing boot flex 130 - even for a normal amateur who don’t race - I felt the huge difference so I had to get some new boots for the next day. The angle and the way you have to ski with racing boots is just not comfortable for a holiday skier. The only way I could ski those boot was max attack and my leg muscles simply isn’t strong enough for that -:) So I have the greatest respect for professional skiers and the hard training that they have to do....and I am pretty sure that the so called racing boot that I tried from the shop would have felt like slippers for Lindsey
here's some advice for jr. racers. Try different things. set your boots with 0 cuff angle. then try +1, +2, and +3 cuff angle. then go back to 0 cuff angle. then try -1, -2 and -3 cuff angle. get a feel for the effect each set up has, what it can do and can't do. experiment till you find a set up(or 2) that works for your style of skiing. same with forward lean, footbed height and ramp angle. you will learn what doesn't work and what does. once you get your boots dialed in, then you can focus on your technique and ski set up.
Used to have Technica race boots(size 9 and I wore size 10.5 shoes) and Dynastar Omeglass 63s. Boots angled out as far as they'd go and a slight heel wedge. Omg what a carving combo. Also, what a painful way to spend a day skiing.
Really want to know more about how the canting specifically affects the aggressiveness. Tipping in, less aggressive; tipping out, more aggressive, but how or why? If there's another video about it, more in-depth, that would be awesome!
Antony Wang I have been a professional boot fitter for 40 years. The boot specialist only addressed leg alignment in a very limited way. Most high end boots offer boot cuff alignment. He did not get into canting which would correct and level the boot sole to compensate for any natural missalinement of the skiers legs. At the US ski team level boot soles are sometimes ground to an angle to correct the stance to neutral. Any good boot fitter can check your stance and alignment. My Nordica boot sales representative was a boot fitter for the US ski team so I have had the opportunity to learn from the best. There was so much other information not presented. Custom molded foot beds to align the foot properly inside the boot. What boot liner is used? It it standard Head issue or does she use something like a Zip Fit custom liner? I expected a lot more from her expert? I could go on and on. For real good advice check out Patriot Footbeds on UA-cam. This guy makes very good boot fitting videos.
Interesting, I never knew the stuff about the angles. My race boots were soooo uncomfortable. I can't believe I used to casually ski in them when I wasn't racing.
@@LindseyVonn Thankfully I did a few years ago when my boyfriend of the time informed me that it's not normal to have to unbuckle boots between runs and still end up with bruised shins... 😜 I still like to unbuckle before I get on the lift, though. Old habits 💚
This is a very generalized overview- go to a good boot fitter if you want to get your boots dialed. Ask some racing coaches where they recommend you go. First you need good foot beds, as the ones that come with the boots are usually pretty worthless. Then you need to align the boot, generally so your shins are ever so slightly inward (less aggressive) when skis are flat. If your shins are too far inside, you will ski knock kneed when skis are flat and require too much movement to get edge angles. If shins are to the outside, you will ski more bowlegged when skis are flat and will over edge too easily. If you are just off by a little bit, you might get by with cuff canting and maybe a wedge under the foot bed, but beyond that you will have to get the bases ground which is pricey, but worth more than a new pair of skis as far as improving your skiing. The best advice they had was wearing Cattracks. I cringe when I see people walking through the parking lot with unprotected boots.
Sorry you didn't like the video Frank. It was really meant to cover topline information for beginners and people new to ski racing. But I've heard everyone's feedback and will work to make more Science Corner boot videos that go more in-depth and cover more of the granular details with Matt. Appreciate the feedback!
@@LindseyVonn With all due respect, the name of the video is "Science Corner," clearly it should have been "Information for beginners." Love your skiing and would love to hear more about materials the boots are made of, how does flex change with temperature if at all, lean angles maybe if they change from venue to venue, how tight do you have your buckles and how do you deal with shin-bang if you get it. What's the reason for shims on the sole of the boots? What kind of liners do you use and how do you mold them? Spoilers, do you use them and if you do why. Seriously, spoilers are a damn mystery to me.
Surprised there's no mention of sanding down especially for the Head boots. Wore B2s for a long time, stretched them so many times, never got them right. Great control but often went home before others as my feet were hurting too much. When I was done racing I learned the B series have thicker walls so that you can sand them down to fit wider feet or bumps. Would have changed those years sooo much if I had known.
Hey Lindsey - is it possible for you to learn how to do videos without coming across as condescending and smug? That would help in not taking away from the quality of the information...
I am also thinking of buying those HEAD Raptor boots. The only issue is that I heard it is extremely difficult to put on or off. Do you have any tool to help to put it on or off? Or do you have any other suggestions? I am interested in 140.
Are your boots smooth on the bottom because you have to get them at the right angle in the binding? Or is it because you are so much more aggressive on your skis than someone just skiing recreationally? Do you wear men's boots since you ski with men's skis? How does the ski boot angle effect what the ski tech does in terms of preparing your skis?
Lets take a step back, a true race boot like what Lindsey is in is a solid lug boot which makes it easier to cant, the lateral adjustment that they are referring to. The yellow sole is to adjust for any height difference in the lug once the canting is done. The reason for the cat tracks is to keep the sole as smooth as possible which gives a better (and safer) interface between the boot and the binding. There are mny "recreational" skier who ski in a race boot because of the low volum and increased performance. There are not really men's or women's race boots, they are unisex. As far as the lateral adjustment of the boot (canting), that is completely different to how the edges are set up on the ski.
Andrei Malyuchik Well, it was a weak joke since the title is the science behind my boots. There was a little science behind boot choice, but since I don't ski, it is not useful to me.
Interesting. In the movie "I ,Tonya" Harding says she went from #2 to Kerrigan to like 9th one year. Couldn't land a hard f*rt and didn't know why. She discovered later her skates were off by a couple of mm. Very nice channel Linz.
I like your channel soo much 😍 so interesting and fascinating!! you have been my idol since I was a child - your fighting and comebacks - I watched so many of your races and I was so happy when you finished with the best result and I love your book - it's so inspiring - my dream is to meet you some day 😍 #teamlindsey Love, Carina ❤
I love the idea of the boot science video but Lindsey ruined the video with her smug remarks and detracting from the science that Matt is delivering here.
Fascinating? How? Please elaborate? Were you expecting to hear from the actual science guy or all the interruptions from a racer? If the latter, why click on the "science" headline of the video?
Great video. The negative reviews are absurd. I didn't realize how beautiful Lindsey is. Fascinating to hear what one of the greatest skiers ever has to say about her boots. Her best is advice is, "if you are not a racer get the comfiest, warmest boots." The boot tech says to get bigger boots for warmer fit and Lindsey agrees. Most people watching this video are not racers but if you go into your local ski shop they will fit boots like your are a racer and tell you to wear a super thin sock. Then you will have painfully tight boots and your feet will freeze. Ridiculous!
He did not distinguish between Boot cuff angle which adjust the cuff of the boot to the angle of your leg and Canting which makes the boot sole level and neutral. This is accomplished by either grinding the boot sole to correct your stance , adding a canted sole pad to correct the stance or placing a plastic can’t under the binding. All of this must be done correct as it can effect the release of the binding especially at the toe in a twisting release. Binding companies are concerned that the corrected angle of the boot sole could interfere with release. Ski racers favor correct leg / boot alignment and use ridiculously high release settings and are not going to sue a binding manufacturer. Some ski shops may not want to make any modifications if fear of legal litigation. Just speaking from decades of working in a Ski Shop.
most people don't have access to the bootfitters that Lindsay does. there might be a few dozen on the planet with the kind of equipment and knowledge it takes to do this, so even in the racing community it's not very common. I also wish there was more science in this video, but it wouldn't be all that useful to anyone.
You need to be more engaging in your presentation skills LV. At times during this vid it seems like you really don't wanna be there. Are you sure you don't wanna do one more year? You look annoyed/defeated almost here.
As a professional boot fitter I can say there was very little scientific information in this video. They only mention alignment and cuff angles. No mention of boot sole canting/ grinding to level the boot if needed. Boot shell and liners are heated and stretched. Many racers start with a plug boot which is then custom fit by the teams boot fitter. I am fortunate to have a sales representative that was a boot fitter for the US ski team so I know there is so much information that was not presented in this video.
why should i get the comfiest and warmest boots if i'm not a racer? I do ski in race boots because it's way more fun as you have the best control possible. I'm a very good skier, but not a racer
Cat Tracks..!! I still use my Salomon Force 7 Rear Entry ski boots since I bought them back in 1992 in Mannheim, Germany 🇩🇪. Since new, I have always used Cat Tracks to protect the bottom of my ski boots.
Everyone--including mere mortals--can benefit from a few tweaks to make your feet feel better and have better control of your skis. Custom footbeds provide a stable platform for your foot and compensates for high arches or flat feet. Canting can provide a neutral stance in order to stand flat on your skis. No one has perfect, symmetrical feet and legs. You can do a lot better for yourself than looking for the softest, fluffiest boots.
I have had boot issues my entire life, I have had every brand and have had lots of boot work performed. Two years ago I changed to Atomic Hawks 130 and they are perfect. No more boot issues. They heat the shells and liners to fit your feet.
Very cool... as LV says at the end .. get the most comfortable boots you can .. we have some ideas.
+1 Love my FT. After getting custom footbeds. very easy to fit and customize to my previously shattered ankle. Great to be able to swap out tongues for stiffness depending if I'm just cruising or want to spend the day in the moguls.
OMG let the poor guy speak. Not even sure why she invited the guy on the video other than to call him names and make fun of him. Too bad as I was looking forward to hearing the science from him...
Wow she seems suuuper unsympathetic.
Well just a video might be wrong.
Been skiing for more than 30 years but only as a holiday thing - 3 or 4 years ago I went without my all mountain flex 130 boots and I rented a racing boot flex 130 - even for a normal amateur who don’t race - I felt the huge difference so I had to get some new boots for the next day. The angle and the way you have to ski with racing boots is just not comfortable for a holiday skier. The only way I could ski those boot was max attack and my leg muscles simply isn’t strong enough for that -:) So I have the greatest respect for professional skiers and the hard training that they have to do....and I am pretty sure that the so called racing boot that I tried from the shop would have felt like slippers for Lindsey
could you also make a video with your ski science guru?
here's some advice for jr. racers. Try different things. set your boots with 0 cuff angle. then try +1, +2, and +3 cuff angle. then go back to 0 cuff angle. then try -1, -2 and -3 cuff angle. get a feel for the effect each set up has, what it can do and can't do. experiment till you find a set up(or 2) that works for your style of skiing. same with forward lean, footbed height and ramp angle. you will learn what doesn't work and what does. once you get your boots dialed in, then you can focus on your technique and ski set up.
Used to have Technica race boots(size 9 and I wore size 10.5 shoes) and Dynastar Omeglass 63s. Boots angled out as far as they'd go and a slight heel wedge. Omg what a carving combo. Also, what a painful way to spend a day skiing.
Really want to know more about how the canting specifically affects the aggressiveness. Tipping in, less aggressive; tipping out, more aggressive, but how or why? If there's another video about it, more in-depth, that would be awesome!
Antony Wang I have been a professional boot fitter for 40 years. The boot specialist only addressed leg alignment in a very limited way. Most high end boots offer boot cuff alignment. He did not get into canting which would correct and level the boot sole to compensate for any natural missalinement of the skiers legs. At the US ski team level boot soles are sometimes ground to an angle to correct the stance to neutral. Any good boot fitter can check your stance and alignment. My Nordica boot sales representative was a boot fitter for the US ski team so I have had the opportunity to learn from the best. There was so much other information not presented. Custom molded foot beds to align the foot properly inside the boot. What boot liner is used? It it standard Head issue or does she use something like a Zip Fit custom liner? I expected a lot more from her expert? I could go on and on. For real good advice check out Patriot Footbeds on UA-cam. This guy makes very good boot fitting videos.
Love this video, we get to watch you ski never really get to see behind the scenes look that help you get to be such an amazing skier.
Interesting, I never knew the stuff about the angles. My race boots were soooo uncomfortable. I can't believe I used to casually ski in them when I wasn't racing.
You need to get a pair of the fur lined ones now!
@@LindseyVonn Thankfully I did a few years ago when my boyfriend of the time informed me that it's not normal to have to unbuckle boots between runs and still end up with bruised shins... 😜 I still like to unbuckle before I get on the lift, though. Old habits 💚
Intuition! Forget the fur...
This lady certainly is in love with herself.
I wonder if you’d say that about a male
Lindsey, you know that no racer skis with boots right out of the box
This is a very generalized overview- go to a good boot fitter if you want to get your boots dialed. Ask some racing coaches where they recommend you go. First you need good foot beds, as the ones that come with the boots are usually pretty worthless. Then you need to align the boot, generally so your shins are ever so slightly inward (less aggressive) when skis are flat. If your shins are too far inside, you will ski knock kneed when skis are flat and require too much movement to get edge angles. If shins are to the outside, you will ski more bowlegged when skis are flat and will over edge too easily. If you are just off by a little bit, you might get by with cuff canting and maybe a wedge under the foot bed, but beyond that you will have to get the bases ground which is pricey, but worth more than a new pair of skis as far as improving your skiing. The best advice they had was wearing Cattracks. I cringe when I see people walking through the parking lot with unprotected boots.
Close to 0% boot science in this video.
About as much science as in Oxycontin marketing brochure... LOL
Sorry you didn't like the video Frank. It was really meant to cover topline information for beginners and people new to ski racing. But I've heard everyone's feedback and will work to make more Science Corner boot videos that go more in-depth and cover more of the granular details with Matt. Appreciate the feedback!
@@LindseyVonn With all due respect, the name of the video is "Science Corner," clearly it should have been "Information for beginners." Love your skiing and would love to hear more about materials the boots are made of, how does flex change with temperature if at all, lean angles maybe if they change from venue to venue, how tight do you have your buckles and how do you deal with shin-bang if you get it. What's the reason for shims on the sole of the boots? What kind of liners do you use and how do you mold them? Spoilers, do you use them and if you do why. Seriously, spoilers are a damn mystery to me.
Surprised there's no mention of sanding down especially for the Head boots. Wore B2s for a long time, stretched them so many times, never got them right. Great control but often went home before others as my feet were hurting too much. When I was done racing I learned the B series have thicker walls so that you can sand them down to fit wider feet or bumps. Would have changed those years sooo much if I had known.
Hey Lindsey - is it possible for you to learn how to do videos without coming across as condescending and smug? That would help in not taking away from the quality of the information...
@Converged Digital Marketing, best comment. 👍
👋🏻 Hi Matt & Lindsey! Great info! Nice work! 🙌🏻❄️
What info? Any bootfitter can tell you the same thing as far as the proper foot-bed goes... Lindsey, give us some actual interesting science!
Bummer Matt didn’t get to actually speak or get into details. :(
I am also thinking of buying those HEAD Raptor boots. The only issue is that I heard it is extremely difficult to put on or off. Do you have any tool to help to put it on or off? Or do you have any other suggestions? I am interested in 140.
Are your boots smooth on the bottom because you have to get them at the right angle in the binding? Or is it because you are so much more aggressive on your skis than someone just skiing recreationally? Do you wear men's boots since you ski with men's skis? How does the ski boot angle effect what the ski tech does in terms of preparing your skis?
Lets take a step back, a true race boot like what Lindsey is in is a solid lug boot which makes it easier to cant, the lateral adjustment that they are referring to. The yellow sole is to adjust for any height difference in the lug once the canting is done. The reason for the cat tracks is to keep the sole as smooth as possible which gives a better (and safer) interface between the boot and the binding. There are mny "recreational" skier who ski in a race boot because of the low volum and increased performance. There are not really men's or women's race boots, they are unisex. As far as the lateral adjustment of the boot (canting), that is completely different to how the edges are set up on the ski.
@@skitalkdotcom there's a slight difference from women's and men's boots.
I don't ski, but I am a scientist. Also, Lindsey Vonn is a hero to me... yeah there's that.
What's your point? Did you find anything scientific in that video?
Andrei Malyuchik Well, it was a weak joke since the title is the science behind my boots. There was a little science behind boot choice, but since I don't ski, it is not useful to me.
@@MYKroe LOL, true. There was an actual scientist "behind" her boots. As in geographically... LOL
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2:35 "...I'm consistent person, its like margherita pizza..."
Interesting. In the movie "I ,Tonya"
Harding says she went from #2 to Kerrigan to like 9th one year. Couldn't land a hard f*rt and didn't know why.
She discovered later her skates were off by a couple of mm.
Very nice channel Linz.
What is flex of this boots?
Find a GREAT boot fitter
Ditch the original liner: I like Intuition liners
Get boot heaters
Use thin socks
Get a heated boot bag
I like your channel soo much 😍 so interesting and fascinating!! you have been my idol since I was a child - your fighting and comebacks - I watched so many of your races and I was so happy when you finished with the best result and I love your book - it's so inspiring - my dream is to meet you some day 😍 #teamlindsey
Love,
Carina ❤
Go Alpine Canada!
Funny, thinking when the Lange banana boots became popular. The banter was, if your feet didn't bleed, you didn't have the best boot.
Congrats top
I love the idea of the boot science video but Lindsey ruined the video with her smug remarks and detracting from the science that Matt is delivering here.
brett palomaki I agree. The beginning turned me off. Ridiculing an expert you’re relying on for the video content doesn’t make sense to me.
NEVER leave your boots in your car!
-as a ski boot fitter, its amazing how small of a change a good skier can feel.
Lindsey, this was interesting. I enjoyed seeing and hearing you talk, and also everything and everybody in the presentation.
Cool thank you
Fascinating content, thanks Lindsey and friends. Would you consider doing a podcast LIndsey, your insight and experience is invaluable?
Good idea! ill think about it.
Fascinating? How? Please elaborate? Were you expecting to hear from the actual science guy or all the interruptions from a racer? If the latter, why click on the "science" headline of the video?
Love you sweetheart 🥰
Great video. The negative reviews are absurd. I didn't realize how beautiful Lindsey is. Fascinating to hear what one of the greatest skiers ever has to say about her boots. Her best is advice is, "if you are not a racer get the comfiest, warmest boots." The boot tech says to get bigger boots for warmer fit and Lindsey agrees. Most people watching this video are not racers but if you go into your local ski shop they will fit boots like your are a racer and tell you to wear a super thin sock. Then you will have painfully tight boots and your feet will freeze. Ridiculous!
Do you refer to boots that are angled out or in as being "canted"?
This is actually a good question that could have been covered in the video. What about canting? What do you do for it?
He did not distinguish between Boot cuff angle which adjust the cuff of the boot to the angle of your leg and Canting which makes the boot sole level and neutral. This is accomplished by either grinding the boot sole to correct your stance , adding a canted sole pad to correct the stance or placing a plastic can’t under the binding. All of this must be done correct as it can effect the release of the binding especially at the toe in a twisting release. Binding companies are concerned that the corrected angle of the boot sole could interfere with release. Ski racers favor correct leg / boot alignment and use ridiculously high release settings and are not going to sue a binding manufacturer. Some ski shops may not want to make any modifications if fear of legal litigation. Just speaking from decades of working in a Ski Shop.
About eh!
And what about a spare pair???
No BOOSTER STRAPS???
Lindsey just wishes ski boots were as comfy as snowboard boots
most people don't have access to the bootfitters that Lindsay does. there might be a few dozen on the planet with the kind of equipment and knowledge it takes to do this, so even in the racing community it's not very common. I also wish there was more science in this video, but it wouldn't be all that useful to anyone.
No racer skis with boots right out of the box
You're
You need to be more engaging in your presentation skills LV. At times during this vid it seems like you really don't wanna be there. Are you sure you don't wanna do one more year? You look annoyed/defeated almost here.
Just say "Race Boots"!
Salut la blonde. Tu vas me manquer... Heureusement qu'il y-a youtube ...
"...Your working on your boots"... Cringe
Not very nice to belittle the man in front of his kids.
I want to know the science behind your body.