Roof Shingles : Asphalt vs Metal
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Great video as always, Matt! Lots of helpful points about the benefits of metal roofing! -Thad
Keep in mind, Matt states that he has never installed an asphalt roof. Hmm, I guess that makes him an expert in not installing asphalt shingles?
Great?
Great ad I guess.
Not too informative, certainly not a critical comparison.
Matt did a better job of pumping this product more than their own salesman did.
Salesman did a great job and listened to the potential customer
You could tell that YouTubing was not the salesman's thing, he did provide the necessary info.
If you are not use to speaking to a camera knowing that potentially millions of people are going to be watching and listening to you your nerves are going to mess with your presentation.
I started preparing tax returns for a company's customers 10 years ago and I was nervous as heck. I chewed gum to keep my mouth from drying out and chewed the flavor out of a stick of gum every time I prepared a tax return. Not near as much a problem now, but every year when the season starts my nerves kick in for a while but settle down a lot quicker than the first year.
@@MrElemonator 😅😂🤣
Indeed - sales guy is the poster child for “deer-in-headlights” look.
What a stammering stare.
My grandmother's house (willed to her from her parents) is over 100 years old and has the ORIGINAL shingles which we have photographs of the house when new to prove it.
They are galvanized stamped steel and are about 12"x12" showing with overlaps and underlaps for water sealing. The shingles are nailed on upper edge and one nail on one side at the bottom covered by the adjacent shingle.
The house has been through a couple of tornados in my lifetime and didn't lose a single shingle.
The manufacturer is long gone so I don't know where you'd get any replacement if you'd ever need one.
About 20 years ago the shingles finally started developing small rust spots so we pressure washed, then osphoric acid treated and painted it with aluminum powder silver paint, looks new even today and reflects a lot of heat.
The point is metal shingles or roofs are much better than any asphalt shingles or roof cover.
Its not the steel that dont hold up its the paper under the steel, those tar paper only will last 30y.
@@um8440 well having been up in the attic and looked at the underside, the roof deck was rough sawn 1 1/4" x 12" 20 foot planks and yes, I couldn't see much because the gaps were small but there did appear to be old tarpaper....
But there's never been a leak in the 100 years since the house was built so I think the shingles kept all the water out, not the tarpaper so it's moot what condition the tarpaper is in.
Note that about every 25 years the family slaps/mops a coat of silver-aluminum paint on, same thing you paint exhaust systems, BBQ pits and butane tanks with and so no rust.
I did it when I was 17 and I'm 67 now and since it was my turn other branches of the family did it.
I wish I knew that 4 years ago when I had my roof replaced. My shingles are 30 year shingles, but when I looked at the history of the house, shingles have been replaced about every 10 years.
@@69BTony one of my cousins is a general contractor and his company does roofing, I remember him mentioning that most asphalt shingles start really losing their gravel (seems more like sand granules to me) about 12 years on the Texas Coast. And that once the gravel's gone the UV deteriorats the asphalt in just another 3 or 4 years. So even supposidly long warrenty roofs don't last in some climates (he's got crews in Florida STILL doing roofing from the hurricanes since the insurance companies have been so slow to pay up on claims. Note that my stepsister still has tarps on her roof in Punta Gorda and it's been 1-1/2 years waiting on insurance money.) Anyway, Florida is another place that just eats asphalt shingles due to weather)
Solar installer here. It is very difficult to install solar on a metal shingle roof. I used to work for EcoFasten Solar/Alpine SnowGuards and there are some base plates that can be put under metal tile sections, but if it is not done during the initial roofing, you pretty much have to re-move all the tile sections, put down the base plates and re-install the tile sections to get solar on.
I had a friend in Pittsburgh that needed to re-roof. I told him what I thought the best options were, but I told him he absolutely should not get metal tiles. The 4 solar companies he was getting quotes from assured him they could do a metal tile roof. He didn't talk to me, had the re-roofing done, tried to finalize the solar quotes and that's when all 4 solar installers realized they had no idea what metal tile roofing was when they gave him the previous assurance that they could do it. They didn't have the skill level necessary and all 4 told him they can't do anything for his roof.
Solar has a really short payoff period and a minimum 25 year warranty. It is an excellent investment for a home owner, so I hope no one shoots themselves in the foot by installing a roof that can't take solar.
Solar is the new Romanian Gypsy grift.
Solar is a loser.
solar in Pittsburg if you pay a contractor the payback will likely be at least 20 years. My payback in Missouri was going to be around 12 years and that was if I DIY'd the whole thing and had no battery storage.
My grandfather put a metal roof on his house in 1946. That roof is still in great shape and likely won't need to be replaced until the 2040s. My grandfather built things to last 100 years. I don't see anything built like that today.
I installed a snapped on standing seam roof on our house 20 years ago. No air gap, just two layers of felt roofing paper under it. Even before the sun goes down the roof is cool to the touch. Very low mass so it does not hold heat (live in hot Arizona), it really helps the insulation do its' job.
Hit with hale once - basically knocked of the paint oxidation. Looked great afterwards.
With our high monsoon winds it really brings peace of mind that the roof is going to stay put - that alone was worth the cost.
I really like how Matt went into the details for how to do the bottom-edge, but I would also like some detail on how to do the side-edge.
Agreed, I was wondering how step flashing is done, and what the hip/ridge cap ends up being. I assume it's something similar to hidden fastener metal roofing.
Loved the illustration of roof assembly. Great video!
I’m in the market for a new roof, siding, insulation and HVAC. I’ve learned a lot from your content and thanks for the video
I switched to metal several years ago. It was a very difficult choice, but I’m still happy I did.
What makes you happy about it?
Metal roofs are better in many ways , especially if you can get less expensive larger laminates vs these. Problem with them is they are very loud in rain compared to asphalt , so be prepared to add extra sound insulation. I have lived with a metal roof for over 20 years . Typically you might need an adjustment and silicone at some screw spots with a pressure wash and repaint every 20 years . They can last 100+ years if you do this
They CAN be very loud during the rain. They can be well insulated using rigid foam board and Z channel over top of the roof sheeting.
There is ZERO difference in sound In any modern home with an insulated attic. NONE. The only time you’d notice sound is on a low pitch porch roof with open rafters and no plywood.
@@AD-cy7wx it depends upon your attic design allowing enough insulation , many people that have parts or all the roof as vaulted have much less space. one expensive solution some do for the rain noise is install sheets of playrock under the roof as well . I prefer metal roofs but people need to be aware of the tradeoffs
Metal roofs like this have hidden fasteners. There's no silicone needed. Sounds like you bought a cheaper exposed fastener system.
@@mr.g937 The silicone has nothing to do with the installation. The silicone is use to patch the roof in certain flashing spots and around certain fasteners after 20 years of abuse, after a pressure wash and before a repaint . Also I'm talking about a completely different system that sells for 1 dollar a sq ft instead of 8 dollars
Great video Matt thank you. I'm glad you touched on the hail issue early on and I'd like to share more information here. On a Facebook post I noted my preference for metal roof because of the issues you talked about here. A friend of mine who worked with the NRCA (National Roofing Council of America) noted one caveat I should mention. When an asphalt roof has hail damage part of the waterproofing system has been removed and is therefore covered by insurance. Hail damage to metal as mentioned here is aesthetic and it is likely that a traditional homeowner's policy will not cover the damage because as you said you have not damaged the waterproofing characteristics, just the aesthetics. Insurance likely doesn't cover aesthetics. I quickly added that as my friend says he's seen a couple of architects get in trouble by disgruntled homeowners finding this out the hard way.
Thank you also for sharing your ventilation method. I remember another video of yours where you talked about ventilating any roof in a similar matter but you had shown I believe one by four battens at a 45° angle to the roof slope for this. The matte method looks to be much simpler and quicker.
I had a new roof put on my house back in 2019 and none of the roofing companies I found in my area did metal roofs. They almost all suggested GAF Timberline HD shingles with a 50 year warranty. The previous owners clearly cut corners with the last roof, but we got everything new from the decking up and so far I'm happy with it. Even if I only get 30-40 years out of it I think I'll be content with that.
Always seems you have to bring them in from somewhere else or find a commercial roofer because commercial properties use a lot of metal roofing.
Thanks for the info Matt! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
I live in a condo complex that has multiple evergreen / pine trees . The roofing material on all the roofs is asphalt , etc . Which of course the pine needles fall on and create algae , etc that I expect breaks down the asphalt shingles . As they sit , day after day , week after week , etc. Where a metal roof with vertical panels would allow the pin needles to fall away , during rain or wind .
I am glad this is an option we have a 30s home that originally has metal shingles. We would love to add on and pay tribute to the original architecture.
Having paid to re-roof the same house two times already (they seem to barely last 15 years where I live) and are prone to all sorts of quality issues not to mention hail damage, I will definitely look into steel if I have to do it again.
What climate are you in? Just curious. I installed a 20 year roof about 27 years ago(tar paper and drip). Still in great shape. I have been using spray and forget the past 5 or so years on the north to ward off moss and stuff. This house is in a high wind, high desert. Below zero in winter and up to 120F in summer but not a ton of rain. and maybe several feet of snow in winter. I suppose how it is installed makes a huge difference too.
@@jonwikan3986 Calgary. Temps range from -31F in the winter to 90F in the summer. We get strong winds and frequent hail too.
I liked this video. I like my steel roof. I had a choice to install a new shingle roof or a metal roof. Back in 1998, I replaced by last house roof with shingles and cost me $3000 to do myself with a crew of 2 additional helpers in a week. 3 years ago on my newer house, I had to replace the roof. I went with metal/steel 29 gauge. The materials cost was $3000 and included transportation. I did all the installation by myself and took me 6 months. Best thing I can say is it looks great. Should last me 50 years.
Who takes 6 months to complete a roof🤣
29 gauge is a cheap type of metal and you likely screwed through the roof (exposed fastener). It's not a real metal roof and it's not even in the same class as the products Risinger installs.
@@ToddBizCoach I only worked on the roof one day a week, unless it was cold or raining because I almost slipped off the roof a few times. At best I moved 3 16 foot by 3 foot sections that day by myself up a single ladder. I could have hired some helpers, but I deemed it was too dangerous and took on the challenge by myself.
@@mr.g937 I used 26 gauge steel. I misquoted in my remarks.
Great video couldn’t come at a better time
Hey guys, class A fire rating? Why even mention that? The most popular Asphalt are class A rated as well now days. At least the GAF ones I am putting in. They are also class 4 impact rated. I like the wind rating of the metal and of course the lifespan. Walking on a wet metal roof(cleaning) becomes quite an operation though, especially with a steep pitch.
On some older homes, that that have metal lath plaster walls and ceilings, renovation to some of these homes with adding a metal roof, basically puts you in a Faraday cage where you won't get cell reception (or so poorly that you need to go outside or near window). Something to thing about if you depend on cellular signals...I can attest to this and use calling over wifi when in my home.
Oh yeah, thats definately a thing I've run into where Im at out at the edge of town near the farm fields . A friend of mine had terrible cell reception in his house and would go park his car down the street and talk from there in all types of weather, got him some suspicious looks sometimes. I looked into the problem (retired USN radar tech) and realised his Ranch style home had aluminum sideing and a steel carport roof on one side, and a matching steel porch roof on the other. House roof is standard shingles, but still created a big RF shadow inside the home that wouldnt give any phone bars unless you stand on the couch in the main room and hold it 9ft up! Most people find that uncomfortable for daily conversing, and recieving calls may be challenging!
Solution was to order the free cell booster kit from T-Mobile, and install the antenna relay box in the front room window faceing the nearest cell tower, and the interior relay box on the wall at the center of the house. One of the sons has it even worse, living in a log cabin with a steep snow shedding metal shingle roof out in the woods of North Idaho 10 miles outside the nearest town. He had to install a cell booster system with a high gain antenna on a 20ft pole above his roofline to get signal thru the Fir trees to a tower! There's no cable or DSL data options when you're that far off the telecom grid, and the phone line boxes kept getting smashed by County snow plows and brush mower tractors. Just part of the joys of rural life, I suppose.
It’s definitely easier to just use Wi-Fi for voice calls at home then to figure out how to get better cell service to your house. It’s definitely not easy to solve cell service issues without giving up the bonus of living in a tough built tank of a house
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I put my own metal roof on a home, after removing a shake roof. (I blew out both arms removing the shakes with a scraper, and PAINFULLY installed the metal roof over the span of 9 weeks). I had taken a factory course for 2 days as part of an evaluation for a community that was resistant to accepting anything except stone tile roofs. Since my house wasn't architected for the weight of stone tiles, and fire risk was rising along with insurance rates, metal was a no-brainer for me. (others chose "dimensional shingle" which still has a shorter lifespan. It took a LOT of meticulous work to put it on over a grid system for horizontal and veritical stability. It was a wide ranch style home, and it had to be SPOT ON for the underlying grid. I regret having filled in the slats from the shakes with 1x4's, but money was tight, and trying to wrestle 4x8 sheets of plywood to a 2 story roof with a steep pitch and blown elbows was impossible. It DID affect cell phone coverage in the 2nd story of the house. Overall, it looked very nice, and the company lent me a brake to bend the metal for valleys. So weight is a huge consideration if you're moving from shake.
Great job on providing a factual comparison of the two types of roofing. It seems intuitive that metal would be better, but you proved it. :-) Great questions and in-fill for the company's rep (who will get better with practice ;-) ).
I'm wondering how that dimple mat being there between the metal shingle and the underlying roof deck and structure would affect things mounted on top of the roof, such as a racking system for solar panels? Would that require some kind of harder attachment points being created at various spots in the dimple mat, or can you screw things like that down directly over top of the dimple mat?
I love that this is just an AD for the metal shingles and I still watched the entire thing lmao
One thing to be considered when deciding between different types of metal roofs is what can happen when water gets beneath the metal panel.
Forensic building scientist Peter Yost, one of the hosts of the Unbuildit UA-cam channel and contributor to the Green Building Advisor website, did a series of “Wingnut” tests (informal tests designed to see how building products might perform in real-world jobsite conditions) about what would happen when water is held in constant tension between the WRB or roof underlayment and a cladding.
Specifically, he wanted to see if water would either penetrate through a site installed product like GAF Dek Armor, Greenguard Raindrop, Greenguard Classic Wrap, or standard type D building paper and soak into the sheathing or penetrate through a factory applied WRB (like you would have on Huber ZIP sheathing and GP Forcefield).
How could this water penetration occur? Because sometimes there is no air gap between a roofs WRB or underlayment and the cladding material (such as a standing seam metal roof) so any water that does get beneath the metal panel can be held there under constant tension and eventually penetrate through the WRB and into the sheathing causing mold, rot, or possible failure of the sheathing.
His tests are covered in these three separate short videos.
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He lost me when he said a bundle of asphalt shingles weighed one hundred pounds 🤣
They weigh thousands of pounds each.
How are vents and skylights dealt with vs asphalt? How does the traction compare? Can you actually safely walk on it? What about solar installations? I'm worried about all those penetration holes.
24 ga standing seam roofing with well done flashing : very little or no oil canning and long lifecycle. PVDF is one of the best finishes. High end from there is zinc.. please do a show on zinc.
I have seen a lot of houses near the ocean replace their rusted metal roofs.
Metal roofs should be re-coated or painted every 20-25 years - this should keep the rust at bay. Maybe more often if near salt water.
Is that for metal steels roofs because from my understanding aluminum shingles don’t rust. They use them a lot in Hawaii near the ocean because they are rust resistant
So I don’t know what type of metal roofs you are referring to but they’re fan favorite in beach towns.
How does it react to thermal expansion? Is there a risk of oil canning like on standing seam panels?
confused about radiant barrier use at the end...
wouldn't that orientation reflect heat from roofdeck back to house, retaining heat?
How would that help hot summer climate?
We use concrete tiles, steel sheets or terracotta tiles in Australia
Matt, What is the process should a shingle a few rows in from the top/bottom needs to be replaced? Does the whole roof need to be removed?
There are two things I would like to see addressed in a future video.
1) What about rust? If the roof gets scratched through the paint and galvanizing, it will rust and you get rust streaks. That could happen even during installation with roofers walking on it or afterwards is someone has to go up on the roof.
2) If the roof is in good shape and someone wanted a cosmetic change, of the finish was worn and grimy looking, how about repainting it? A pressure wash, clean, and repaint should be possible in less than a day and much cheaper than tearing it off and reroofing it.
Rust is nothing but rim rams leaving the body. It doesn't exist.
If your asphalt shingles are no too warped you can put metal over them. It’s cheaper than replacing asphalt because you don’t have to tear the old ones off. I’ve done it to 2 roofs. No issues b
I hope my testimony of buying a metal roof helps someone. When choosing my metal roof I learned the hard lesson of buying cheap. The big difference was in the warranty. My house is about 1/2 mile from salt water (Puget Sound). After several years the paint began to fade. I should have looked carefully at the warranty when shopping. The warranty of my roof did NOT cover being close to a body of salt water. Had I paid for the more expensive roof it would have the better warranty that would cover my situation. Not matter what kind of roof use a reputable company and read the warranty.
The nail holes are specifically placed, what happens when you get the ever-present 1/4 to 3/8 inch gap in your older homes? Can you nail outside of the pre marked drilled holes?
Isn't that airflow gap at the edge, along with the airflow layer on the roof, a perfect entry and nesting grounds for wasps? The holes are like wasp sized
Theyd bake down here in Texas.
Looking to use metal shingles in my upcoming build. I'm sold on the slate-like look, the durability, the wind resistance and the weight savings. I'm building in an earthquake-prone area so weight savings up on the roof will make it possible for the walls below to be of a lighter construction than otherwise because the shear forces on the walls will be reduced when the ground is accelerated away from the roof in an earthquake.
FYI it is very hard to install solar on a metal shingle roof.
@@patrickcorcoran4828 That's ok. I'm not really interested in solar on my roof. Maybe a standalone unit if any at all is my thinking.
@@patrickcorcoran4828 Why is that? Those silver shingles look amazing for some bifacial solar panels so I want metal + solar ideally.
@@TheRobojay I've got some more technical responses to other comments below (sorry, not youtube savvy enough to link them) but the bottom line is that unlike most other roofing materials, metal tiles have an air gap between the "tile" surface and the solid roof deck/purlin/rafter below. Solar attachment points use a compression system for waterproofing and need a solid surface to compress against. If there is an air gap, they'll crush the "tile" void the warranty and cause leaks. Someone with the experience to do it and the approval of the metal tile manufacturer can install base plates to fill this air gap, but it has to be done during installation of the roof, otherwise you essentially have to re-roof to add the base plates.
Be careful because I have run into solar sales people that see "metal tile" and think its an actual tile, for which there are multiple attachment solutions. They don't understand that metal tiles roofs are just rows of embossed false tiles and go together like vinyl siding, rather than real tiles.
Other metal options like Standing Seam and Corrugated metal work great with bi-facial solar. White reflective asphalt shingles are also an OK option.
So when you add the dimple matt and then the metal shingles, how can you walk on the roof (to do repairs or clean off leaves, etc) without your body weight denting or damaging the shingles?
i dont have a rely, just have the same question to my own...every layer u add needs nails. sounds counter-intuitive????
Thanks for posting that. Informative to the lay person. Asphalt shingles are like legacy auto, designed to fail. Nice to see old Tec being reborn. And recycled, like metal roofs. Peace
When it comes to fire, a metal roof obviously wont burn from embers. What I have heard is that many fires are caused because of the ridge cap design. Apparently it's easier for embers to get inside the ridge cap on a metal roof. Can you speak to this?
What about the insurability of the metal roofs in Florida?
Insurances started saying that they wouldn't cover roofs more than 15 years old regardless of condition.
What about the noise of rain and hail hitting the roof? I hate our vinyl siding because it is so much loader than our old cement board.
Need a diy friendly metal shingle roof. I can install it but getting my hands on it as a non contractor is near impossible.
I dont see the metal shingles option on the Idial roofing site, they still producing this?
I'm guessing the installed cost will come close to standing seam, hence, that might be the more appropriate comparison instead of ashpalt shingles. Also, the photgraphy was from an aerial view. I would like to see it from street level as I suspect the thinness of this material may not pop well from certain angles.
Sure, but Matt's main theme for the channel is "trying to advance building practices" and the main things being fought is inertia: The vast majority of builders will just keep using what builders have always been using i.e. asphalt shingles, at least in wide swaths of the country. He's speaking to builders, trying to give them reasons to move off of the default.
Asphalt.
Standing seam is currently around $2,000/square in my market. You think metal shingles around the same? Absolute insanity.
@@srt4b That is crazy. Steel is an inexpensive material. Asphalt is made from oil and as the current administration wages war on the fossil fuel industry, the price will go up.
@@BryanTorok Aside from your political philosophy, you can buy a square of Timberline shingles for a hundred bucks. Not sure where the war on fossil fuels is evident in that. Steel roofs are priced disproportionately higher because they are marketed to upper end homes, not just because of the price of the material. Four years ago, I put a new architectural shingle on my roof for about $8k. My quote for standing seam was $32k for the very same roof. All I’m saying is the metal shingles, particularly given the way Matt is recommending they be installed, will likely be closer to standing seam costs rather than asphalt. I would be pleasantly surprised if it turns out otherwise.
Ash-fault shingles? I would think that if you are in the roofing business, even if your focus is on metal, you'd know how to pronounce asphalt.
Canadians say ashphalt
I just took it as a speech impediment, not a purposeful mispronunciation. Kind of a dickish comment, honestly.
He also said “ambers” not embers… I think it’s an accent.
Yes, this was pretty much an infomercial for the metal Shingles…but that ok. We all know everything there is about the super old technology of asphalt shingles. The metal shingles are a relatively new technology. This was informative. But at 71 years old I won’t live long enough to experience the 50 year warranty on the metal vs the new 30-40 year asphalt shingles…and the cost difference is a deal breaker. So when my current asphalt shingles go bad I’ll go with another asphalt roof.
Yep, when I did my roof around 6 years ago, materials for a metal roof were 3x more than traditional 3 tab shingles. Metal would have went on much faster with less work, you're basically paying for convenience with a metal roof. Since I did the work myself, going with 3 tab shingles was a no brainer.
I wonder if there is a good metal product for a flat roof? (barely enough slope to carry the water away). This is for coastal climate (northern California)
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Very informative video. Question: Does moss stick to this metal? Is it easy to walk on so one could clean out the valleys when the leaves fall off of the trees?
Same question, no one will talk honestly about how to work on a metal roof without simulating a playground slide.
I have a shingle roof and two areas get Ice Damming. What about Ice Damming on Metal Roofs? What would I have to do to prevent them on Metal roofs? This is a residential home, so the roof slope is not steep.
I wish I'd seen this before the roof went on our new house. The "old school" roofers in the OKC area never seem to be interested in newer technology that will last. When the asphalt roof we settled for gets beat up by hail, we'll find someone that offers this kind of product.
Curious how the dimple mat would support the metal roof while being impacted with larger hail. I could see the metal doing well on a solid substrate but not sure with the air gap. I do understand why the air gap would be good though 🤷♂️
How does metal shingles compare to traditional seamed metal roofs? Cost wise and performance wise?
Plenty of comp shingles have a class A fire rating. I've personally, as a firefighter, witnessed an entire valley full of glowing embers on a Malarkey Legacy shingle roof without any combustion of the roof material. I have both shingle and steel roofs on the buildings I own, and I sell both products. I'll likely never do another steel roof again. I don't like the look and I really don't like the dangers in snow country of steel roofs sliding. Sure, I could put snow stops on, but those are a maintenance nightmare over time.
I agree, cosmetically with most homeowners disliking the look of metal, the desirability of a metal roof home will go down when put up for sale. Many people won t give metal a second look.
Can you walk on a metal roof to replace a vent seal or something without leaving foot dents?
Does the metal roof and radiant sheet have an effect on radio waves? Will it block cell phones, WiFi, 5G, TV and radio reception?
hi, look for the PREFA sheet metal system (Italy Bolzano) they make beautiful things
can you go over a shingle roof with metal? or do you need to go to the decking?
Matt,hello,some years ago,at a home show,in NJ, saw a meal roof which looked like terra costta,in a few colours,if I had to re roof,it would be METAL for me,stay well,🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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I have gutters on my roof. Do I have to replace my gutters when putting that type of roof on? Florida living.
I need you to do my roof in Tennessee
I live in south Florida near to Miami which roofing product has the best hurricane wind rating ?
I just put a 26 gauge stone coated steel roof on my home recently. It cost me roughly 30% more than a high quality class A, Class 4 asphalt. The good news, It lowered my insurance premium almost 45% ( I had cedar shakes). The bad news, every insurance company now has a "metal roof cosmetic damage exclusion". Meaning, if your expensive metal roof gets the crap beat out of it by hail, your insurance company will NOT replace it. The hail has to actually cause a leak to get a claim approved. No size hail will puncture the steel so the reality is, your metal roof has no coverage by insurance. That is absolute BullShit but that isn't the biggest problem. The real issue is that roofers wont tell you about the exclusion unless you specifically ask and worse yet, the insurance companies dont disclose the exclusion until AFTER you buy the policy. Absolute fraud in my opinion by the roofers and insurance companies. Full disclosure of the exclusion should be to be required by law so homeowners can make an informed decision.
My advice, save yourself $1000's of dollars and go with the absolute least expensive asphalt shingle roof material available and let your insurance company replace the roof every time a hail storm rolls through due to damage. Asphalt shingles dont have a cosmetic exclusion. Minor damage that leaves a ding and removes the granuals warrants replacement.
There is no justification or logic to spending 30%+ extra on a steel roof except for the asthetics. Then when it gets beat to shit by hail and looks terrible, your home value will drop. Buyers will want it replaced.
You have been warned. If this helps one individual it was worth it.
You are just compounding your insurance rates by making big claims every time you feel like getting a new roof. I don't think strategies like this work in reality.
I put high end asphalt shingles on in 2006 and it shows absolutely no wear! I’m 58 and I’m pretty sure they’ll last as long as I do.
Does a metal roof need to grounded? Please explain why or why not.
When talking the weights make sure they are right. Many 3 tab singles are less than 200 a square. Especially the stuff sold down south. High end laminates sometimes are less than 300 pounds a square. Metal is longer lasting and easier to install though.
I feel like that air gap is specifically necessary for attics with spray in insulation.
How long will the galvanized steel roof last on an oceanfront house? We get high winds and constants rain here on the southern Oregon coast, and every metal rusts or corrodes -- even aluminum.
Millions of years.
asphalt shingles bundle typically range from 65-80 pounds, designer is the 90-110 pound range
More like 1,000 pounds. Get outta here, amateur.
Can you do a video on Rubber Roofing?
Will this medal roofing material work on a roof with a 3/12 pitch?
They haven't won any awards yet.
Check the FAA guidelines when going for higher SRI values. Don't want the glare to hinder a pilots ability to see where they're going.
So I'm in DFW area and looking at this what is the disadvantage of metal roofing with a solar system?
I'm a solar installer and formerly worked for EcoFasten Solar/Alpine SnowGuards, a company that makes roof attachment points for solar racking. Solar works on every metal roof type EXCEPT solar tiles.
I'd bet that solar sales people will tell you they can install because they think it is like a synthetic slate, but when they look into how metal tiles actually interlock they'll realize they don't have the skill to install it. It happened to a friend of mine. Of the hundreds of thousands of solar attachments I sold in 4 years at that company I probably sold under 100 of the base plates that can be used with metal tile.
What about walking on your roof … or solar panels?
What about the big steel panels? A friend had his small place done in steel panels. He has a high pitch, not sure what. The panels were 4' x 16' so only 9 panels on each side of the house. Those large panels are what I see folks going with in my area in southwest Michigan.
When I need a new roof I want panels like that, I have a low pitch. The total running roof measurements of just the house are 40' x 28' (edge to peak 14') and there is a 12' x 24' attached car port. In the 24' part of the roof the actual run from peak to edge over the carport is 26'.
Some roofers won't touch my house with shingles since it is roughly a 2 in 12 pitch. I figure more like 1.7 in 12.
Your insurance will actually go up with metal shingle roof, as the insurance is based on replacement cost. I metal shingles cost more than asphalt , than your insurance will go up.. This is based on my experience as i thought my insurance would go down, but not the case
How would that not dent in hail!? The silver panel he held up was dented from riding in the pickup.
Don't forget all of the asphalt that wears off into your gutters. Is metal also susceptible to ice dams? Thanks!
The cause of ice dams is inadequate roof ventilation and poor roof design. No matter what you roof it with, ice dams will occur, if they are presently occurring. Ice dams on metal can be every bit as devastating as ice dams on asphalt shingles.
@@akdoug6437 I would think ice dams on a Standing Seam metal roof wouldn't be a factor, but maybe in the Valley's. With these shingles shown, maybe so. I put a Standing Seam roof on a house from Eastern States Metal Roofing I had and was very pleased with it.
Do they make an aluminum roof/ painted?
Why not just use large 8x4” roofing sheets like corrugated or box profile?
My assumptions would be to keep that tight sheer strength pattern on the sheets. A 4x8 wouldnt allow you to add as many screws without having them exposed. This system hides the fasteners. At that point if you want a metal sheeted roof you got the with the stand seem.
What about adding solar panels on the roof?
I'm a solar installer and formerly worked for EcoFasten Solar/Alpine SnowGuards, a company that makes roof attachment points for solar racking. Solar works on every metal roof type EXCEPT solar tiles.
I'd bet that solar sales people will tell you they can install because they think it is like a synthetic slate, but when they look into how metal tiles actually interlock they'll realize they don't have the skill to install it. It happened to a friend of mine. Of the hundreds of thousands of solar attachments I sold in 4 years at that company I probably sold under 100 of the base plates that can be used with metal tile.
What does a metal roof do for insurance rates?
Went metal ! The best decision in a property
Is the guest Canadian? Nevermind, I looked up the link in the description box. He is.
Awesome - I’ve been wanting a discussion from someone I trust to be objective!
Also would love to hear if we (in Oregon) should leave roof moss, or clean it off and spray copper sulfate???
No way you watched 16 minute video in 1 minute
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What about aluminum metal roof for people on the coast?
Another negative for asphalt is the grit. After ten years, I still get just as much grit down the gutters and into my rain barrels as when the roof was new. 😠
Not all shingles are created equal. Be happy that minor degradation of granules does not lessen lifetime of roof.
Are these metal shingles slippery to walk on ? Installing Xmas lights in fall could be worse than grippy 3 tabs.
It'll only be slippery if slippy from star fox falls on the roof but that is a made up character so you should be good.
Someone please elaborate on noise and mitigation of it please?!
How do you flash it?
I asked for an estimate from a metal shingle company and they said they did not do manufactured houses. Is there a pitch limitation to metal shingles?
Just laziness lol
Mobile homes are built in a factory and this causes installers to think that the manufacturer might have been up to manufacturing building in a manner that metal might not go into places that metal could otherwise need to be from the manufacturer but really the installer could think so also but to include.
How do you work up on a metal roof? It seems to me that getting grip between your feet and the substrate would be nearly impossible. I already hate working on my asphalt shingle roof due to pitch.
You glue sandpaper on the bottom of your shoes. That is how the professionals do it. It causes rust to start forming where the paint is scratched, but rust just provides more traction and is not an issue. Big Wood is trying to scare you about metal rusting, but it is not a problem.
Nice! Out of these two, the metal seems a clear winner for performance.
How does the tempered glass rooves (like the Tesla ones) compare?
Tesla is getting out of that business, so it's a moot point, but you should check out how many of those catch fire. I mean, it IS a Tesla product, so that's pretty on-brand.
@genjii931 If Tesla says pop goes the weasel, then they know to start popping.
Why not have both? Do a Decra roof.
How do I get this kind of roofing in America?
Metal roofing just is not affordable here in Michigan where I live. The quotes I received were 3 TIMES more than asphalt. Since typically you don't take a bank loan for a roof, this makes metal a no go for me.