iOS 17 Sideloading: The secret feature Apple won't talk about! 🤐
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- There's one new #iOS17 feature coming that perhaps you don't know about yet. It's one that Apple neglected to mention at all in its WWDC 2023 keynote, and one that potentially bulldozes a hole right through the iPhone's walled garden.
Sometime during the lifespan of iOS 17, #sideloading and alternative app stores will come to the iPhone. Apple doesn't want to do this, but if it wants to keep selling iPhones, it's gonna have to. It's a big, huge deal that's been a LONG time coming, with a fascinating backstory involving greed, billionaire back-biting and some of the biggest apps around.
0:00 Intro
0:40 The Walled Garden
2:48 Epic Wins
3:32 Fortnite Fallout
5:14 Free Fortnite
7:45 The EU and third-party app stores
9:12 Sideloading for a more open iOS?
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Side-loading is gonna give apple a OS monopoly over android by making more people switch to IOS
1 comment and 32 likes ? Lemme change that
Shout out to the EU for forcing type-c and side loading.
Yaaayyyy
Thanks
I never had iPhone before, but lightning is much better than usb-c, because my phone and cable is more than 5 years old, and it still grips the connector tightly and makes proper contact, unlike usb-c, which after half a year wobbles, slips out, and has a faulty contact, it doesn't always make contact. I was also very surprised by this, but it is true. On the other hand, I would also strongly support side loading and third-party applications and stores, because it is not good to spend on everything, something and many other things would be available.
@beni_plays then apple shpild allow everyone to use lightning, right now no one can use it without paying a hefty sum to the big apple.
@@kowhaifan1249why would anyone want to use it tho, its outdated
Finally! No more resigning every 7 days!
Yay infinity altstore
ya altstore sucks
Finally! Altstore is nice and all, but it will be so much easier now.
@@yournamegg4988sidestore lets you refresh apps without a pc but still does limit the number of apps you can have 😔
Yep i have ios 17 im waiting
Sideloading was never a security issue for a number of reasons: MacOS was open from the start and still is without issue. If someone is afraid they can stay in the AppStore and not move from there, then in the end, it's just a matter of choice.
The public could have forced Apple to allow sideloading long ago if, faced with this problem, they turned to the competition, but apparently Apple consumers are comfortable this way.
Monopolies can be destroyed very quickly if people realized the power of decision they have.
Communism is what we need
MacOS is not open. Especially in the latest version (Sonoma) they disabled AltServer so now I can’t side load anything. Especially any Mac with a T2 security chip is especially difficult to install unsigned software.
@@chriswestphal26 I hope you realized that I was talking about the previous OS, right? I don't know how Sonoma works on the new chipsets.
But that's exactly my point, as long as users are comfortable with it, Apple will continue to do the same.
People on android sideload apps everyday.. the only that infected is the one that download apps that were sent by someone on messaging apps
It is when old people use it.
Have you seen the number of Calendar bullshit added to their phones?
It’s not a big issue on Android cuz they locked it behind several restrictions… Apple doesn’t like that.
The European Union made 2 good decisins:
1. The USB-C obligation
2. The force to tolerate Third-Party apps.
Apple owes the EU for forcing them to make their devices more appealing to more consumers
Fr I like Android for side loading but I'm considering apple for the ecosystem and now the side loading
As if billions of people already didnt buy it?
@@sadatnafis2032I owned iPhone 5 but left to android with the launch of the first android the Motorola droid 1 for many reasons. Now I bought a 15 pro max because of usbc titanium and side loading
More people may buy it but Apple will hemorrhage money for losing lightning and sideloading. That being said they will still be a multi trillion dollar company. But although I’m thanking the eu I can certainly say that Apple is not
True, I'm a diehard rooted android user.
ios sideloading might be a game changer.
THE CLOSING OF THE VIDEO IS SO GOOD. More and more people need to understand this to be honest.
My favorite part was when he talked about how Apple added sideloading.
Gotta get those clicks, amirite?
Didn't you hear, it's always about money
For me I would like Apple to be more open with its control over the device itself. Stuff like reducing the volume reduction on apps when on calls, active background processes able to work for any app, more settings to customize the experience in general.
0:16 That app icon is so ridiculous I love it 😭
Sweet hopefully this will be easier for jailbreaking for future iPhones I miss untethered jailbreaks where even if the battery dies the jailbreak stays without computer
If Apple finally releases the ability to sideload third-party apps and people start porting Revanced and other stuff to iOS, I'm done with Android. iOS has came a long way and was optimized since day one. Now it even supports game controllers and whatnot. Meanwhile, I always felt like the Android counterpart needs much more processing power and RAM to even compete with iPhone flagships. Android was always a slow, buggy mess. I had the S4, S6, S7E, S8 and S10 and it never changed. They always were blazing fast, however some months later they began to lag and stall. And that given that I am an Android dev and know what I'm doing. I disable things I don't need, leave free space, etc. I even rooted it to gain some controls over the CPU/GPU with a custom kernel. It kinda helped, but still... iOS doesn't need all that and "just works" - fast.
With all of that said, Android, especially on Samsung phones, is being massively dumbed down. They removed everything I loved Android for. 3.5mm Jack, IR Blasters, removable batteries, etc. Even Root/Magisk is going away with forced signatures. I really have nothing to loose anymore. They want to compete with iOS, but are not even on the same level. Java will never be as fast as C.
All in all... Again... If Apple allows third-party Apps and I see that it will stay that way, I might switch sooner or later.
It's kinda funny, because I was a die-hard Android fan.
You could sideload 3rd party apps on IOS through Altstore/Sideloadly since IOS 14. And IOS already has a UA-cam Vanced, uYouPlus (which I use)
So, you’re an Android “dev” you say, fusseldieb? What exactly have you “developed?” You think knowing what to disable, some free space and rooting equals a dev? Lmao!!
@@zg468i use sidestore and its good but it for the average user its too much of a hassle
I'm at the same place... Hell I'm switching to IOS in few months 😢 but I love android. And it's not android's fault that it's loosing its charm but it's OEMs fault that they are killing android.
For real currently confused between iPad pro and samsung S8 , if iPad allowed some ways to download mod apps , then I will go for iPad blindly , only thing I will miss is SD card slot 😢
I would happily switch to iphone if we get side loading and file explorer in iphones.
Ironically the new version of MacOS (Sonoma) removed legacy mail plugins that AltServer relies on to side load apps. AltServer released a statement saying they are aware and are working on a new method to sideload on to iOS.
I'm on Ventura beta and it's working fine
Use Windows version.
well i guess i won't be updating then
I use the windows version but I'll be glad the day I don't have to use AltStore to side load. I don't like the app limit
@@kilrain_devgreat! But he's talking about Sonoma 😅
That was a great piece. Well thought out and written. Thanks.
I know that I’ll be installing all the retro emulation apps😂
I bought an iPad Pro for work and study but I discovered that with a Dual Sense controller it's also an insanely amazing gaming platform. If only Apple allowed us to install emulators.
"The first iPhone, didn't even have an App Store"
*shows a picture of some old iPhone WITH an App Store*
I hope people in the UK and US will be able to do this too, otherwise it’s ridiculous.
Man, I didn't even know that Epic parodied Apple's own ad to use against them! That's actually hilarious, even if most of Fortnite's player base had never even seen that original ad.
Sideloading would be amazing on iPhone
It's also notable that the original 1984 styled advertisement was actually from Apple for their Macintosh and aired during Superbowl XVIII (only the 18th Superbowl! 🏈).
The EU is literally helping Apple at this point!
Hi! So my question is that it will only come to new iphones or older ones too like the iphone 13
From what I understand the EU law affects products released after march 2024 which means it would affect iOS 18 - but I could be wrong i haven't read the law for a couple months
Nope, it will affect iOS 17. Something, as iOS 17 is in beta right now and will release to the public some time in September when the new iPhone is announced, a beta 1 of iOS 18 will be announced at WWDC 2024 which is usually held in June-July which means the law will go into effect before iOS 18 is announced.
I thought it need to be implemented by December 28, 2024…
@@EddyGraphicmy guess is the functionality won’t be made available until apple has to… Which means it’ll be a 17.whatever update, Apple might not even mention the function at WWDC
The deadline is May 2024, they must have it up and running way before that, so EU can review it and make sure it follows guidelines.
I just know there'll be a version of Fdroid for iOS.
nice video! may I ask what the song name of the background music is at around 5 min?
There is a clause in the terms that say if they believe that this provides a security risk then it can be stopped
I like how Android has had sideloading for years, and iPhone is finally catching up. Good for them too
It would be so funny if in September apple released the new iphone and only the European one had the sideloading feature and the usb C, but lets hope it doesnt come to that.
The side loading feature would have to be worldwide because if someone moves to Europe it would be weird and VPNs and all that stuff, but I can see them doing that for the lighting port
@@lewismaxvaltteri check up on the VPN topic. I have read articles that basically said apple would most likely release this only in EU and make sure VPNs are not reliable in terms of getting access to sideloading. It's sad but I hope it doesn't come to that. At the end of the day there is many sources and most are wrong. It's up to us to decide which seems most plausible
Sideloading apps could be totally a local thing. But USBC is most likely than not to become a global feature.
I think it would be cheaper to implement one port worldwide
When is it coming
well said 👏👏
11:24.. Damn right. At least Google is aware of open source idealism and everything associated with that.. Which makes me lean towards Google more generally, but money IS the bottom line..
That’s so BS. By this argument Epic should allow anyone to upload skins and other things without charging anything. Tesla should allow any apps to be installed and so on.
the only reason google open sourced android is because it could not compete with the iphone otherwise
Nah, it's an ENTIRELY different approach, which includes the open handset alliance when Android was first publicized..
@@Shubhpt with Tesla there are road and vehicle software safety laws that will take precedence.
@@avbear77 how difficult would be to block apps once car is in motion.
I don’t want want another store. Just the ability to load and install .ipa directly.
It should work for both ways
I expected how to saidload, I got history
You'll probably have to put the app on a special apple sim card that you put in and then find something hidden deep in the accessibility settings to install it
Infact Apple does have something like Google Play Protect on macOS. That's why there's no need for anti virus on Mac.
*sigh* there's no need for antivirus on anything and Windows has defender too, Macs not needing an antivirus is a myth, it is required as much as any other device, that being it doesn't need one
Mac's don't get a lot of viruses because they are not the majority of devices. Macs are about 30% of the market while windows is around 68% of the market
@crestofhonor2349 30% where? Maybe in some parts of the US?
@@AlejandroLZuvicThat is US data. World wide it's about 19% for MacOS and 62% for windows
@@lewismaxvaltteri macOS has built in anti virus into the system kinda like defender.
Sideloading has always been possible. With free dev account and Xcode. How did you skip over that factor?
Xcode only runs on MacOS though.
there already is sideloading with altstore and sideloady without a jailbreak
Finally the public can get a real ad blocker and free stream and casting. Custom launcher soon apps no longer touch
If I had to guess. Side loading will be possible but you’d have to run the ipa file through iTunes or some approved equivalent. Maybe they’ll keep the 7 day resign rule.
God I hope not.
Possible but I think it'll have to be something more accessible to regular people
Knowing apple, they probably will do this and it will only be accessible in Europe not in US
@@OverClient that does seem like something they would do.
If that's how they did it then you could argue that sideloading is technically already on iPhone. I can sign and install any ipa file for 7 days with a non-developer account right now.
I long to use something similar to vanced on ios
will there be sideloading for iPads
I got rid of that trash cannot even copy and paste
I just want to play my old games on my iPhone without having to update every seven days it’s so annoying
i wonder if changing the iphone Region on an UK or Canada iphone will work Eg: change it to an EU country as if the phone belongs to one from EU.
ive done it now but not seen any new option or addons as of yet in { ios17.3 }.
I'm 7 months late in watching this video, but I just like to say that I really love your last few statements about corporations just wanting more and more money and that they're not their consumers' friends.
The app stores are a massively monopolistic anti-competitive tech prison where they can control anything anyone makes, down to their policy, or they don't get to exist.
hopefully we can now download infinity blade trilogy again
countryd inside iOS will do all the region limitation work
I hope the EU also forces big tech giants to open-source significant portions of their work that directly affects their service's performance, longevity, and maintainability and access of their original and subsequent users.
That's... A very difficult proposal.
That would kill off all financial incentive to continue, you understand how asinine this idea would be? When companies inevitably say "to hell with this" and quit doing business, it could cause the already stagnent EU economy to fall even lower.
Sooooooo…. Revanced and co on iPhone? Literally the only thing I would use this for currently
I can finally install tidal without changing the region
no wayyyyyyyyyyy sideloading for real now in iOS wooo
Well technically they don’t have to do side loading in the USA they just have to do it in the EU they just have to give you access according to your location
So, are we finally able to install non-store apps like in Android for iOS or, is this another Apple gimmick “we’ll give you what you ask for, but not really” thing?
So far it's nothing. Apple didn't confirm anything, it's just something they supposedly need to do before March 24 but to this day there's no information about how or even if Apple will implement it (they should but you know how these legal things can be fight in court).
Dude are you "Harold" from the show "Suits"? 😊
If Apple only made it work in Europe, everyone will just flip the setting to Europe to get it
same
Nope most like me think the EU is dumber beyond dumb to force apple to do this none of us iOS users ever asked or wanted this, we like apple for apple and the fact it’s not another clone or android distro we like how apple locks things in there eco system if we didn’t like it we wouldn’t of bought it to begin with
@@Duffster115what u talkin bout dude 🤡
@@Duffster115stfu
Man i want sideloading on nu iPhone so i dont have to pay FOR DAW and FOR games like deadcells Minecraft etc. If you dont want to sideload then dont activate the setting… like in android nu the way
It’s iOS 17 beta 3 and still no trace of sideloading
It’s too early
This is bigger for iPads than it is for iPhones.
I really want to play Infinity Blade again! 3:05
I love the EU
Me having Samsung with Galaxy store that has Fortnight in it and still not playing the Game 💀
i like how they used mcAfee as "malware" there
Fr💀
I hope they extend this to all supported OSes (15/16/17)
I hope they will allow sideloading globally because I have an iPad and I want to install happymod or Nintendo emulators without wasting an entire day just for it to disappear in a week
Lol I can do all of this on my Android
@@Steve21_harris yeah I know I have an Android phone and I do this stuff but I also want it on my ipad and it's pretty complicated.
@@ARBUZIK.dudkin oh ok
What if they only allow side loading on the newest iPhones?
Fr💀
One major problem is that apple has often allowed apps which scam their users to exist on iOS and even allowed them to run ad-campaigns. Their walled garden always have had weeds and poison ivys. And apple sucks in case of side loading even for developers, you can only keep your own developed apps for 30 days, and 90 days in case you pay them $100 per year for testflight.
Super!
Hope it will be global
“The very first iPhone didn’t have an App Store” Wdym it’s literally in the 4th row!
im a computer head but im a android fan i don't want the EU to do this cause there will be no competition for any smart platform like your tv for a example
Imagine a 3rd party launcher on an iphone!
We are at 17.1, and still no alternative stores, or sideloading apps in the EU.
Just saying.
Some apple executive cried today
God I hope we get syncler real debrid kodi etc etc
Long we have mod app stores like android I’ll be happy
Apple could greatly improve security on the iPhone by removing all Apps.
We need safari dark mode on iphone ‼️‼️
YESS!1!1!1!1!1!1
*LETS GO.*
9:00 They will probably realise it with the phones region which you can set at will. Changing it to France for example will deactivate downclocking the device „to save battery life“ or rather why it was banned in France. Because they intentionally worsened the phones over time by software limitations to encourage you to buy a new device.
A feature I’ll literally never use….ever. Though just cause I won’t doesn’t mean others shouldn’t be able to, bout time it was a thing.
that might genuinely make me buy the 15 pro
Same
I may actually buy an iphone now if this is true
Honestly if they added sideloading and had a cheap type c Iphone I would consider switching to iphone ngl
2024 it is then! As we didn't get this.
If an iOS device becomes less secure with side loading, it means that iOS has severe know security vulnerabilities (if they're unknown, the manual review process won't catch them either) whose only line of defence is a manual review process. A process that's highly flawed. I've had apps rejected for something that they've not complained about in earlier version, meaning that the one that reviewed the earlier versions, didn't fully review the app. Which makes you question what else they're letting through.
If this is Apples approach to security no one should ever use an Apple device because this means Apple's whole design philosophy around security is flawed, and their devices are probably littered with security holes.
But more likely, it's just Apple bullshitting the consumers because they want to keep them in the their grasp.
Thank you! That's what it is.
macOS is open to sideloading and it doesn’t have problems
if that were the case Mac would also not allow Sideloading.
they are just bullsh*tting same as they do with "BLOCKING THIRD PARTY TRACKING FOR PRIVACY", "GENUINE LIGHTNING ACCESSORIES FOR SECURITY", and "SCANNING YOUR COMPLETE GALLERY FOR CH*LD PO*N FOR CHILD SAFETY".
iPhone is the most selling product of Apple and if they can grab cash from any product, it is this one.
As people who buy Macs, know why they are doing it and what they need for their workflow, but majority of iPhone users buy iPhones for show off/peer pressure.
thus are easy to be fooled and restricted.
It seems like people don't actually own their devices as you can only do what Apple allows you to do.
EU Privacy/Security requirements are probably even more stringent than the US and even then they realize the importance of allowing people a choice and the USB-C requirement was wise move.
I hate App Store
This sideloading feature will only be for EU
if apple was to be stingy, they could only allow side loading on EU phone models/accounts.
Don't expect Android level support from third party apps and especially opensource apps in iOS lol.
Yeah no piracy like on android sad the reason why no good android apps exist lol
We already have a great third party support with altstore
@@MaxMustermann-vy7ur Android has amazing apps, what are you talking about?
@@AlejandroLZuvic look at whats iOS apps are there they are more pleasure designed UI, faster,more optimized and more features even the apps from google like authenticator has FaceID or TouchID while on Android there nothing such thing…
And where are apps first released and sometimes exclusive yeah iOS not Android …
Apple isn't going to announce anything untill they are at the deadline, or they have a way to spin it like it was their idea in the first place. Like with the iphone 15's USB C port, we all know it was a forced move, but they certainly talked it up like it was their plan in the first place.
What about the fact that Cydia had the “App Store” before the bullshit App Store existed
Sideloading was reasons i got a iPhone
If Apple makes it a hassle to sideload apps in Europe, they WILL be in violation of European Law and will be fined for it. They won't be able to escape this time (just like Google won't be able to prevent OEMs from making all their bloatware uninstallable on Android).
Their best option will be marketing. And because 99.9% of iOS users are dumb AF, an aggressive marketing campaign to scare them will likely be enough. Heck, I have tech savvy friends who are still iSheep and don't even want Apple to have that possibility on the iPhone because they're scared of "the malware from Android".
“iPhone users are dumb” yet you think the European Union has ever made a legislation that worked. They literally think they have banned memes, look it up. They literally had an open border policy that took back a year later we kept buying oil from Russia for no reason. The eu literally tried to force micro usb to every phone some years earlier. Trust me, the eu will get nowhere with this.
Also don’t fool your self android is just as closed off as iOS, don’t like being able to change the colors fool you. There is built in temple try and literally most aspects of both systems are closed source, don’t story anything you wouldn’t want to be leaked or the government to know on a smartphone in general.
@@user-fr2fm3ri3w android is fully open source lmao what u talking about ? these companies skin off based on stock aosp rom.
half knowledge fool
@@nikhilt3755 ahahajjshshaAHAHAHAHAH
@@nikhilt3755 YOU ACTUALLY THINK ANDROID IS IOENSORUCE ARE YOU KIDDING ME
I want iPhone for iTunes music
Does this mean we can download APKS?
Yes
iOS 17 really isn’t much different from iOS 15. I wouldn’t say it has “a ton of new tricks”
iphone are rare iphones share is mere 15% so ofc malwares for that 15% will be rare 😂
Apple will limit it to 3 apps, 3 days, 3 devices. Have fun!
I’m sure they will try. They tried to make the usb c thing still proprietary there
FINALLY , A REASON TO USE AN IPHONE 😈😈😈