OH ALSO I forgot to say this on youtube, but I won't be doing Different Beast anymore. Reason is I really wanna do a Scylla animatic and that will be the one I'll be working on now
Love the detail of his annoyance when he says "Penelope" after her near siren-reveal. The sync is so smooth and you can see him resisting all his rage from watching this monster pretend to be his wife
I love that even though Odysseus knows she’s a siren, he still checks. He tests her with the “You know I’m afraid of water” and confirms that it really isn’t his wife. Obviously, he’s not afraid of water and never told Penelope that he’s afraid of water, so she would be like ‘uh. What?’ Whether that’s for his own sanity or because he just doesn’t want to risk the 0.0001% chance that it could actually be Penelope is kind of cool. He even gives little smirk after she fails it like ‘gotcha’. Edit: Yes, I know the daughter thing is also a giveaway, but she said that unprompted. It wasn’t really part of Odysseus testing her. It was just her slipping up on her own and doubling down on her mistakes. Since it wasn’t part of the test, it was irrelevant to the point I was making.
And I love that in the animatic, you can see that, too. When she first shows up, it’s animated to show that he hesitates for like half a second before he greets her. Then, he smiles almost placatingly and mentions being afraid of the water. Then, when she doesn’t pick up on the lie and also talks about a daughter that doesn’t exist, he smiles to himself a little. Almost bitter yet triumphant. Like “Got you” or “I freaking knew it”. I showed this to a friend who doesn’t know the show. On the first watch, she figured out it was a siren, but didn’t realize Odysseus was tricking her. Then, it got to the part with the bow. Then, after rewatching it, she asked me, “The guy doesn’t actually have a daughter. Does he?” She got that just from the reactions in this animatic and I think that speaks greatly to the skills of the animator. Great job.
@@rachelmr24 What's also great is, Penelope also has a way to tell if someone isn't her husband, by asking only one question: "Can you move our bed, honey?"
i love that when Odysseuss is explaining his "hypothetical" scenario of being chased by Poseidon, the visual relay of the events looks like old Greek art
I'm shocked I had to scroll this far to find this comment! I thought it was very clever to use the pottery look when it went into the "hypothetical" scenario - it immediately reminded me of the opening of the Disney Hercules.
@@jakeking3859 RIGHT!! The little hints at other Greek history/mythologically inspired things (and just Greece history/mythology) that animators leave in their adaptations for Epic are super cool! I always enjoy picking them out!!
0:12 another indication of Penelope being a siren is the absence of her signature instrument I forgot what it’s called but in the song The Horse and The infant, when Odysseus called out Penelope’s name it can be heard
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I like how even though Odysseus is clearly lying and playing along, he looks like he's genuinely having fun on some level. He knows it's not the real Penelope, but his heart is too happy to care.
I mean, its the first time he physically sees "Penelope" in "12 long years", we've only seen his remembering her through the Penelope theme or in the "Keep your friends close" dream, so obviously he still enjoys seeing a phisical thing that looks like her,if it makes sense😅
oh the tragedy. it's only a ruse. both sides are putting on a show, but for 1 moment odysseus can pretent everything is fine. oh, my gay little heart 🥺
1:34 I love how the Siren genuinely looks like she is invested in explaining how to sneak past Poseidon. You can tell she spends her time coming up with hypothetical scenarios like that while waiting for victims to sail by, and just enjoying sharing her ideas for once.
It makes me wonder what she thought of Odysseus asking in the first place. From the siren's perspective, Odysseus should've been charmed by her song, so did she think that discussing how to sneak past gods was some sort of pillow talk? Like "oh baby you're so sexy when you strategize like that". Well considering what Ody and Penelope are like, I wouldn't put that past them either.
I absolutely love that second at 2:01 where Odysseus is genuinely pissed off- he’s been acting all nice, but now he’s got the information he needs his mask starts to crack little by little!! Amazing attention to detail!!
0:05 That is such a smooth and gorgeous animation of the siren transforming into Penelope. Also love the attention to detail having Odysseus reading her lips the entire time.
I love that Ody lures the siren closer to the ship by dangling his feet above the water; him focusing on her lips as soon as he asks his questions, not wanting to miss a single detail; and the siren just polishing her claws, so certain of her success that shes not even trying that hard to pretend anymore
The zoom in on the lips at that point was JUST-- chef's kiss. Also the Greek pottery for the montage during Ody's "hypothetical" oh my word Gigi you mastermind
I am pretty sure you have to plug your ears to escape a siren's voice, so it could also be that he is trying to read her lips while having his ears plugged. Edit: yes, this was written without knowing the next part of the odyssey.
I like the little smirk Odysseus does after the siren says "come play with me and our daughter"! Kinda a very subtle nod that he knows more than hes letting on.
I love how Penelope is just floating in the water effortlessly, arms stretched out, no need to swim, cause the Siren is using her fish tail beneath the water.
I mean, technically you can do that as a human too. You just kick your legs. It's not as good as it would be with a fishtail, though, so your point still stands.
I love the "I would take the suffering from you" line so much. To take the suffering from someone can mean to soothe or comfort someone, right? well, to end the suffering can also refer to suicide She's asking Odysseus to allow her to kill him
She also is only focused on the suffering, nothing else. Not his fear, not his wish to stay dry. The siren saw that the suffering was the easiest to lock on to and try to get him under her control
My favorite aspects of all Suffering animatics are always - Sirenelope's "oh no~" -The random appearance of baby gurl or fem Telemachus (EDIT: and of course Dolphinmachus) -The design of sirens (I usually geek out if the animators add feathers, because: accurate feathers) - and Odysseus' "too shy" 🥺👉👈 Even if this animatic doesn't meet all the aspects though I'll still love it: because well its a gigi animatic
I love how Odysseus is shown always looking at the siren when she talks, revealing later he was reading her lips and that his ears were plugged the entire time.
1:59 the pure emotion Odysseus shows when getting splashed by the siren, hes trying so hard right there to not blow his cover. It is amazing, the emotion through it all is beautiful
The best thing here is the fact that his crew is watching all this mess. Odysseus: *flirts with siren, literally dances on the edge of the ship, pretends to be shy princess* Everyone else: ...whaaa- I just want to see the face of Eurylochus, seriously :D
Okay so i love *literally everything about this animatic* but the little hand motions Ody does during "Giant Waves and Giant Storms." Is just. So cute. I love them so much
I had to slow down the animatic A LOT when Penelope mentioned the lair of Scylla, but that one frame of Scylla followed by Odysseus’s reaction and the siren sharpening her nails and showing her teeth, she’s just waiting for her food to stop yapping. Plus I love just how Invested she is in the whole Poseidon thing.
Feels like on the same type where people who get excited when you ask them about something they are really knowledgeable on (since Penelope siren knows about the best routes from the lyrics of different beast)
When I first listened to Suffering, I remember feeling like it was a Dream or a Flashback or something, with just a hint of something being off. It's not supposed to be clear that she's a Siren, it's supposed to almost trick you like a Siren would, with it Revealed in a Different Beast. Something I've noticed with other Animatics is that they all seem to kinda shove in your face that she's a siren throughout the whole thing since Odysseus already knows she's a Siren, but I think it shouldn't be obvious to the Audience. Your Animatic did that really well, only really showing anything obviously Siren-like at the bit where it shifts away from the Sweet interaction between Penelope and Odysseus into the thing abt the Lair of Scylla. You really captured all this really well!
I love at 1:29 where it focuses in on Odysseus' eyes and then the siren's lips as her mouth movements are much more defined than the rest of the animatic because he's reading her lips. Incredible attention to detail
1: Wasn't expecting the kid. Can't tell if it's a doll or a young siren. 2: Odysseus's smile afterwards. LOOKS like he's happy, but in reality he's thinking "Gotcha". 3: Odysseus dangling his feet over the railing, teasing her. He's just playing with his food. 4: Love the classical vase artstyle! 5: The close-up on Odysseus's eyes, followed by a close-up on the siren's mouth with exaggerated mouth movements, showing how he's reading her lips. 6: Using a starfish as a nail file, love it. 7: Both of them letting their masks slip, the siren with slightly transforming into her true form, and Odysseus getting annoyed when he's splashed. Overall, it felt more cartoony than normal, but I feel like that just reflects the silliness of this song. Extra 8: Someone pointed out the single frame of Scylla. Can't wait to see THAT! in motion!
as stawberrymilknya pointed out the kid is just seaweed and bones, but I find the idea of the kid being a young siren to be hilarious, like "TAKE YOUR KID TO WORK DAY :DDDD"
I mean in the sirens defense, after a war and 12 years of horrible things happening on his trip, it’s not too far fetched to suddenly be afraid of the water
After all the shit that this man goes through, I’m pretty sure every morning that he wakes up and looks out at the sea and proceeds to flip it off every morning now because he has to, but simply because it’s just become part of his routine. Because no matter how much he and Penelope get it on there is no being on Greek mythology that fucked Odysseus more than the sea itself
@@sinfuladam "no matter how much he and Penelope get it on there is no being on Greek mythology that fucked Odysseus more than the sea itself" - OMG I'm cackling so hard at this
I love how the siren seems like so genuinely invested in telling him the best way to pass through sylla . Even through the little “oh no!” Like she’s genuinely so invested lol!
I got the vibe that she loves to get to be clever, and this was a way to scratch that itch in a way that trickery doesn't. I like to imagine that in a different telling maybe Odysseus got her on his side, like with Circe, and he introduces her to Athena like "Hey, found you a new friend!"
I love how we can tell its not Penelope bye the fact that 1. She doesn't have a viola playing behind her in the beginning and 2. She says daughter instead of son, so that's cool!
i love how the daughter lowkey does look like telemachus, also kinda random but i really like the choice of colors, they help set the mood a lot, the blue/purple really helps sell the dreamy/fantasy vibe, then there's the style changing when Odysseuss is explaining the situation to the style for vases, and then the yellow for Penelope that changes to the purple/blue again but darker when she starts to talk about scylla and show her dangerous side
Maybe the sirens saw a random pic of the family but telemachus was so young and had enough "feminine" features for them to assume: _screw it, it's a gal_
@@THATBrokeAroSpecWalletthey didn't have pictures in ancient greece, imo it's just how facts get distorted - while Scylla can look exactly like Penelope does, she actually doesn't know much about the family. Odysseus says things like "I prefer my feet on the ground" and that he's scared of the water, things which the real Penelope would definitely know aren't true. Similarly Scylla may only know that they have a child, but is unaware or falsely assumes it's a girl. She isn't all-knowing after all
@@justahermit1172 That's not Scylla, that's a siren. It would be hilarious if it was her but then she'd be dead because Odysseus killed them all. Scylla is so powerful that she doesn't need to trick anyone, pretty sure.
This video illustrates one of my favorite moments in this song, which is just the Siren's entirely chipper "Oh no!" like she's actually humorously distressed at Odysseus's hypothetical. Every time I hear it, I just giggle a little given how casual it makes the whole ordeal Odysseus's been through so far.
I noticed there seemed to be a lot of detail as to syncing her mouth to the lyrics in that moment, didn't even cross my mind it's because he's reading her lips. Very good attention to detail from gigi, as usual.
That "Oh no~!" at 1:22 is so cute xD The little theater of him explaining his questions is an adorable touch. God, I love how Odysseus clearly knows something is wrong, and they're both playing around to some degree, but... His mild annoyance at "Penelope" splashing him is very telling. AND HIM SECRETLY LOADING UP THE BOW AT THE END 🔥🔥
Aaaahh I love the Ancient Greek vase style with Odysseus' monologue and his sassy, playful lines with Penelope. Her smile is even different from the real Penelope showing that she isn't real. Also the teeth and nail sharpening were so cool! They bit with the daughter was so funny to me. It was like Penelope pulled the daughter out from her inventory! Brilliant animatic! ❤
I like how Ody is chill at first and the moment Sirenelope really confirms that she isn't his wife by saying "our daughter" he's just like "Cue dramatics!"
Honestly this has to be one of my absolute FAVORITE animation for suffering! I love how “Penelope” seems so genuine especially when giving Ody the information about how to get back to Ithaca while avoiding Poseidon. There’s no subtle animation showing the sirens or that “Penelope” herself is a siren until the ending of the songs. Most other animations make it very obvious that Penelope was a siren the whole time and I think that kind of ruins what Jorge was going for with that song. Bc the whole point was giving as little information as possible, with little hints such as “come play with me and our daughter” knowing full well they don’t have a daughter, until the next song “Different Beasts.” I’m so glad this was the first animation I saw of “Suffering” because it made it way more enlightening and mysterious.
I like how you sorta hid the fact that she was a siren in this, all the other animatics blatantly show that shes really a siren, but the way Jay intended is that we dont find out until different beast so im glad you did it this way
The execution of Odysseus telling the story of how Poseidon was stopping him from getting home was done really well. It was in a historic Greek and Roman format, and it looked extremely visually pleasing.
I love how expressive the characters are! Especially when Odysseus learns about Scylla being the only way home. The expressions and body language are 🧑🍳🤌💋 1:461:54 That takes more than knowing how to draw-it takes understanding how human emotion is presented and the song and the story you are bringing to life! You’re so appreciated!
I love how the siren gets so impatient, that she doesn't even try lie or really listen to what he saying or how he acting. You can tell she not use to trying this hard.
The way Odysseus starts toying with the siren KNOWING she's a siren is absolutely wild at 0:55 with the fact she nearly got him. I started laughing, i wont lie.
EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS. -The lack of linework at the beginning -ODY BEING SUCH A SASSY LITTLE- -The pithos designs during Ody’s slideshow presentation -Siren!Penelope pulling out the map during HER slideshow (personally it’s giving Emperor’s New Groove in the best way) -Siren!Penelope filing her nails with a starfish -THE COLORS OF THE BACKGROUND GOING DARKER WHEN ODY ISN’T PLAYING ALONG AND IS LOW-KEY PANICKING ABOUT SCYLLA SKHFAKJDSNKXKSBFKSHDSJ I LOVE ITTT
I love watching how people interpret Siren Penelope’s mannerisms. This might be my favourite adaption yet. The way she’s so apathetic after giving terrible news, yet pretends to be so eager and caring is great. The camera panning through Scylla’s caves was wayyy cooler than it had any right to be.
@@BeansproutGamesSirens here rather than just the voices seem capable of taking on physica appearances. That’s probably whats happening? They just made a girl physically resemble him
Loving Ody’s dramatic ass here 😂 The little uwu on the _totally real daughter’s_ face I can’ttttt The kinda-rap part being presented Kuzco-style is a highlight, love it! I like how as “Penelope” is going on about Scylla, she slowly loses the disguise and playfulness, only to quickly put it back up at “Now jump in the water!” Speaking of, I love the sort of bouncy, playful vibe of this one, and how it’s briefly cut off as Ody learns what he’ll have to do to get home. The little distortions with the background hissing are really cool!
I love how the siren actually looks very friendly and cheery! As much as I love the type of siren where you can see a bit of slyness on their face, I also love this version, where she’s lying super well
THIS IS INCREDIBLE! The part where she says "now jump in the water" after telling him to go through the lair is soooo beautifully done, as well as the splash of water on Odysseus.
I feel like Odysseus's look of affection and longing when he first sees the siren, is real. Even though he knows it's not the real Penelope, he hasn't seen his wife in 12 years and can pretend for just a few minutes that he made it back home to her.
0:37 - 0:43 I wonder if for a moment, Odysseus lowkey thought how adorable it would be to add a baby girl in the family. 🥰🥰🥰🥰 Also I've binged a few of your videos and you earned yourself a new subscriber. Love your work Gigi! 😊😊
Gigi, Gigi. GIGI, STOP BEING SO FREAKING TALENTED FOR 5 SECONDS! I love this so much! I just love all the emotions you put into Odysseus, how playful and theatrical he is, just enjoying the moment. He knows he has the thing in his finger tips, and he's just playing with her before he crushes her in his fist, but also immersing himself in what is effectively role playing begin with his wife again. Its very fun and semi-sweet, but also has an odd edge to it. It fits the vibe of the song really well. The bit where The sirens true features started poking out was just effing awesome (plus, her using the starfish to file her nails was just simply golden. I honestly laughed at that). And the cuts to the traditional greek art background with Odysseus was GREAT. Its the first time I've seen that kind of imagery in an EPIC animatic and you did it really well. As a whole, you just did an amazing job with the piece, and I honestly CANNOT wait to see your take on Scylla. Oh, almost forgot: Her just freaking MATERIALIZING A CHILD was absolutely hilarious. Just a fantastic touch- The comedy in this whole thing is just bloody golden. This is my new fave piece from you.
Finally someone who draws the siren to react in a very convincing and caring type of way while saying "oh no" instead of rolling her eyes! Like she is literaly pretending to be his loving wife i think she would be invented into the act in a deeper level so he would fall for it... Thank you gigi we love you and i am in love with every animation you make! 🙏💖
I AM BEYOND MAD I MISSED THIS COMING OUT!!!! HOW DO YOU KEEP PUTTING OUT BANGER AFTER BANGER GIGI?!?! If you were in epic, you'd be able to break the laws of diogenic music with how godly you are!
this is STUNNING? One of my favorite animatics I’ve ever seen to this song!! your movement is so clear and dynamic and your framing/camera movements are IMPECCABLE Amazing job!!
i LOOOOOVE this!!! what makes this song so much fun is how blatant the lies are on both sides, and you do a fantastic job of showing how much they're over-acting without making the scene unbelievable. it's so fun and juicy. i especially loved odysseus's little smirk when he realized he really had her, the moment when his mask drops to reveal his horror about scylla, and right at the end as he turns to reach for his bow. awesome work, thanks for sharing!!
OH ALSO I forgot to say this on youtube, but I won't be doing Different Beast anymore.
Reason is I really wanna do a Scylla animatic and that will be the one I'll be working on now
We eating good this month yall 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
but will you do different beast after scylla and mutiny? or just no
@@ThatAlx that is the true question, we need more different beast animatics in general
@@ThatAlx well after Scylla I'll do Mutiny soooo we'll see
:((( but me wanted to see your take on Diffrent beast.....:(((((
I love how the 'daughter' is just:
:3
and she looks so much like telemachus like- so cuteee
:3
Most likely the only thought going through her mind is "I'm not sure what's going but I'm gonna sit here a smile
no thoughts behind those eyes
Like a ditto transformed lmao
I love how Penelope just whipped the daughter out of her inventory🤣
PFFT LITERALLY-
“x1 Daughter has been added to your inventory”
Her face said OwO🤣🤣🤣
🤣
I laughed out loud reading this, I genuinely hope you’re proud of how funny you are, this was gold 😂😂😂
It's simultaneously funny and creepy how the "daughter" seems to be just a mindless construct who does nothing more than smile.
omg I thought that too like a makeshift doll Sirenelope pulled from under the rock haha
That’s probably my favorite part of the animatic
THIS! I forgot to mention it in my comment!! IT was just . . .so . . .uncanny!
With that face she kinda reminds me of a winion. Like, if they just pulled out a winion and then magiced a child's body illusion over it.
The daughter just :3
I love the “more than you know” subtly saying, “fuck off, you don’t understand how much I know and love my wife”
It returns with "the things I'd do for you" which is saying he's willing to kill a siren (among other things) to get back to his wife.
@@MarcieParcie I didn't notice this, but yeah. I love how Jay play with this double meaning in every Odysseus' line.
God loves you bro😅
Love the detail of his annoyance when he says "Penelope" after her near siren-reveal. The sync is so smooth and you can see him resisting all his rage from watching this monster pretend to be his wife
THIS this was my favourite part to see
Gigi legit said "FULL SPEED AHEAD" when she heard the thunder saga huh?
goated comment. deserves more likes
@@AStrangeCreature it has 1kj
Why does it say *ten hours ago*?
@@Promise-e3p The comments are always made by time travelers, obviously.
@@Promise-e3p when an uploader made-public a scheduled upload, audience can already comment before it gets fully released.
I love that even though Odysseus knows she’s a siren, he still checks. He tests her with the “You know I’m afraid of water” and confirms that it really isn’t his wife. Obviously, he’s not afraid of water and never told Penelope that he’s afraid of water, so she would be like ‘uh. What?’
Whether that’s for his own sanity or because he just doesn’t want to risk the 0.0001% chance that it could actually be Penelope is kind of cool. He even gives little smirk after she fails it like ‘gotcha’.
Edit: Yes, I know the daughter thing is also a giveaway, but she said that unprompted. It wasn’t really part of Odysseus testing her. It was just her slipping up on her own and doubling down on her mistakes. Since it wasn’t part of the test, it was irrelevant to the point I was making.
And I love that in the animatic, you can see that, too. When she first shows up, it’s animated to show that he hesitates for like half a second before he greets her. Then, he smiles almost placatingly and mentions being afraid of the water. Then, when she doesn’t pick up on the lie and also talks about a daughter that doesn’t exist, he smiles to himself a little. Almost bitter yet triumphant. Like “Got you” or “I freaking knew it”.
I showed this to a friend who doesn’t know the show. On the first watch, she figured out it was a siren, but didn’t realize Odysseus was tricking her. Then, it got to the part with the bow. Then, after rewatching it, she asked me, “The guy doesn’t actually have a daughter. Does he?”
She got that just from the reactions in this animatic and I think that speaks greatly to the skills of the animator. Great job.
Imagine if this was actually just Penelope who decided he was taking too damn long and went after him herself
“It’s probably not Penelope, but I *have* been gone a long time and I wouldn’t put it past her to try to come after me.”
@@rachelmr24
What's also great is, Penelope also has a way to tell if someone isn't her husband, by asking only one question:
"Can you move our bed, honey?"
Being afraid of water also gives him a valid excuse to why he’s not getting in, without letting the siren know he’s onto her
1:56 I love how “Penelope” turns into the siren for that split second but back into being “Penelope” being happy.
Sirenelepy
I love how annoyed he gets with her before he covers it up again
Both performers letting a part of the mask slip before getting into it again.
@@Piplup425-ej8zuNAH 💀
i love that when Odysseuss is explaining his "hypothetical" scenario of being chased by Poseidon, the visual relay of the events looks like old Greek art
I'm shocked I had to scroll this far to find this comment! I thought it was very clever to use the pottery look when it went into the "hypothetical" scenario - it immediately reminded me of the opening of the Disney Hercules.
@@jakeking3859 RIGHT!! The little hints at other Greek history/mythologically inspired things (and just Greece history/mythology) that animators leave in their adaptations for Epic are super cool! I always enjoy picking them out!!
@@l.ftshoepersonally, my favourite one was the Go the distance in keep your enemies close
0:12 another indication of Penelope being a siren is the absence of her signature instrument I forgot what it’s called but in the song The Horse and The infant, when Odysseus called out Penelope’s name it can be heard
It should be the viola
THERES NO VIOLAS SHES A FAKE
Your honour, the vibes were off!
also the fact she brings out Odysseus's Daughter even though he has a son
@@amyoakAnimation The whole fandom: uh- *daughter*?? HE HAS A *SON*-
Gigi: "Suffering will probably look a bit simple"
Also Gigi: *Opens the song with the most beautiful animation of a siren transforming in Penelope*
LMAO I FORGOT I SAID THAT
Oh boy did I change my mind while making this video
lolllll
I loveeeeed the transformation animation, it was so good.
Hola iko! Ya q comentaste aca te agradezco por tus traducciones de verdad muchas gracias todas las otras q veo estan mal hechas las tuyas son las unicas en las q confio JAJA
@@manuelbucay2385 ¡Holaa! Muchas gracias por el mensaje 🥺 de verdad, lo aprecio mucho 🫶
I like how even though Odysseus is clearly lying and playing along, he looks like he's genuinely having fun on some level. He knows it's not the real Penelope, but his heart is too happy to care.
I mean, its the first time he physically sees "Penelope" in "12 long years", we've only seen his remembering her through the Penelope theme or in the "Keep your friends close" dream, so obviously he still enjoys seeing a phisical thing that looks like her,if it makes sense😅
@@nefelibata8773 12 looongggg yeaaarrrsssssss (insert jay crying noises)
Maybe, now just maybe he could have fun messing with her and using the siren. However when things get serious he removes the playful attitude.....
Sad 😭😭
oh the tragedy. it's only a ruse. both sides are putting on a show, but for 1 moment odysseus can pretent everything is fine. oh, my gay little heart 🥺
1:34 I love how the Siren genuinely looks like she is invested in explaining how to sneak past Poseidon. You can tell she spends her time coming up with hypothetical scenarios like that while waiting for victims to sail by, and just enjoying sharing her ideas for once.
Makes me feel kinda bad ngl
It makes me wonder what she thought of Odysseus asking in the first place. From the siren's perspective, Odysseus should've been charmed by her song, so did she think that discussing how to sneak past gods was some sort of pillow talk? Like "oh baby you're so sexy when you strategize like that". Well considering what Ody and Penelope are like, I wouldn't put that past them either.
@@raymondchen3815Not the "so sexy when you strategize" 🤣
@@raymondchen3815 oh you make me laugh xD thanks
That actually does make sense, considering how quickly she knew the exact answer.
I absolutely love that second at 2:01 where Odysseus is genuinely pissed off- he’s been acting all nice, but now he’s got the information he needs his mask starts to crack little by little!! Amazing attention to detail!!
YES, I also absolutely adore it, and how he quickly goes back to being all silly, he is running a charade as much as the siren, perhaps even more!
“this BITCH-“
@@ChupacabraRexand I bet it’s so hard to hold his focus is because he is probably PISSSSED that a siren would dare impersonate Penelope 😂
@@TheWorstOtter2912 exactly!
0:05 That is such a smooth and gorgeous animation of the siren transforming into Penelope. Also love the attention to detail having Odysseus reading her lips the entire time.
I didn't notice this before, but damn, that hands movement to make "wild" hair into Penelope's bun... love it
Damn Gigi, you're making us suffer for a few more hours. Now we'll all jump in the water when Sirenelope tells us to.
Sirenelope is actually quite a good name for siren penelope
ID ABSOLUTELY JUMP IN THE WATER FOR SIRENELOPE AND GO IN CIRCE’S PALACE
Which one, @@mattsheng?
@@storminlogan1878 Dang, we have to pick?
@@brysonbarnett4 kinda. Both are one way trips if you aren't extremly resourcefull.
I love that Ody lures the siren closer to the ship by dangling his feet above the water; him focusing on her lips as soon as he asks his questions, not wanting to miss a single detail; and the siren just polishing her claws, so certain of her success that shes not even trying that hard to pretend anymore
The zoom in on the lips at that point was JUST-- chef's kiss. Also the Greek pottery for the montage during Ody's "hypothetical" oh my word Gigi you mastermind
I am pretty sure you have to plug your ears to escape a siren's voice, so it could also be that he is trying to read her lips while having his ears plugged.
Edit: yes, this was written without knowing the next part of the odyssey.
VARIAN PFP
@@EclipseOfTheMoonsMoodOMG I NOTICED TOO
VARIAN PFP AND YOU LIKE EPIC!!!! FINALLY I FOUND ANOTHER ONE
The dedication you gave in having him look at her lips whenever she is talking is insane.
OMG I LEGIT THOUGHT NO ONE WAS GOING TO NOTICE THAT
@@gigi2820we probably wouldn’t have if we hadn’t heard that line in different beasts
@@freedomwriter9688 duh
@@gigi2820 i watch ed this a dozen times ... i wish i have a penelope in my life in some years 🤕
I like the little smirk Odysseus does after the siren says "come play with me and our daughter"! Kinda a very subtle nod that he knows more than hes letting on.
Very bold of him to assume the siren would tell him the truth rather than, I don't know... suggesting something crazy dangerous for a laugh.
Lorewise they always tell you what you want to hear truthfully otherwise their truck wouldn't work.
@@razorflossrazor2937 Why would their truck stop working?
Hey, we were trying to contact you about your truck's extended warranty!
It's because the siren believes he'd rather jump into the water than risk going through Scylla. She doesn't know that he saw through her, after all.
I love how he is like "I prefer my feet on the ground" just to dangle them right in her face above the water 😂
Monster odysseus loves playing with fire
The transition from siren to Penelope in the beginning is sooo good
: how many times have you replayed it?
Me: yes
Magical girl henshin good
Yeah!!!
@@HafsaAlami-qf4ktway too many times 😭
It was so goood, the full color of it too aaaaa-
I love how Penelope is just floating in the water effortlessly, arms stretched out, no need to swim, cause the Siren is using her fish tail beneath the water.
I mean, technically you can do that as a human too. You just kick your legs. It's not as good as it would be with a fishtail, though, so your point still stands.
It's funny, you can actually see where gigi added little snippets of her tail under the surface!
The fishtail
HELICOPTER HELICOPTER
Well actually, if that was really Penelope, it wouldn’t work bc humans don’t have enough boancey
Animating the siren's mouth moving as she talks and showing Odysseus focused on it is such a nice touch.
I love the "I would take the suffering from you" line so much.
To take the suffering from someone can mean to soothe or comfort someone, right?
well, to end the suffering can also refer to suicide
She's asking Odysseus to allow her to kill him
She also is only focused on the suffering, nothing else. Not his fear, not his wish to stay dry. The siren saw that the suffering was the easiest to lock on to and try to get him under her control
My favorite aspects of all Suffering animatics are always
- Sirenelope's "oh no~"
-The random appearance of baby gurl or fem Telemachus (EDIT: and of course Dolphinmachus)
-The design of sirens (I usually geek out if the animators add feathers, because: accurate feathers)
- and Odysseus' "too shy" 🥺👉👈
Even if this animatic doesn't meet all the aspects though I'll still love it: because well its a gigi animatic
I swear, I see you on all greek mythology related content
My favorite "daughter" was the random baby dolphin she had lying around.
@@BrandonVout Best thing ever
@@BrandonVout Oh yeah, Ximena’s animatic
I want to believe the siren playing Penelope was Parthenope, just because their names rhyme
2:08 Obligatory camera pan shot at emotional climax of the song
Every animatic needs one
I LOVE THEM SO MUCH
It's become a staple of gigi's animatics at this point lol
It wouldn't be a Gigi animatic without it ❤
SO REAL LMAOOOO
YES WE GET SUFFERING FROM THE QUEEN OF EPIC ANIMATICS!!!
They are epic animatics indeed! ]
Indeed ma’am/sir
This sounds really ironic hehe
Scylla is my favorite song but Suffering’s title is so goofy with moments like this lol
I know you didn't mean it, but this sounds threatening as hell
The purple ripples when the siren uses her 'charm' on Ody is so cool...
"Penelope why you know I'm to shy and terrified" so classy
I love how Odysseus is shown always looking at the siren when she talks, revealing later he was reading her lips and that his ears were plugged the entire time.
Wow I didn’t notice that! Good catch!
Cool detail! Truly a lot of thought put into the animation!
Ohhhh I didn’t even notice that! What incredible attention to detail! Good eye!
1:59 the pure emotion Odysseus shows when getting splashed by the siren, hes trying so hard right there to not blow his cover. It is amazing, the emotion through it all is beautiful
Man nat 20’d his performance check and charisma save
@@birubu A DnD reference on a Gigi animatic? This is just heavenly.
It's honestly My favorite moment in this video~ Gigi is too good
He so mad
The best thing here is the fact that his crew is watching all this mess.
Odysseus: *flirts with siren, literally dances on the edge of the ship, pretends to be shy princess*
Everyone else: ...whaaa-
I just want to see the face of Eurylochus, seriously :D
hes such a pretty princess
They’re offscreen, “fishing”
“Hey, why’s the captain making uwu anime shy girl poses?”
“What’s that? I can’t hear you with the freaking beeswax in my ears!”
@@YouveBeenMegged 🤣 so true lol 😂 🐝 🕯
Arent they suppose to catch the other sirens? They probably having their own song and dance routine lol
2:14 i like how in this frame, you get a glimpse of the sirens tail
Yeah!
Okay so i love *literally everything about this animatic* but the little hand motions Ody does during "Giant Waves and Giant Storms." Is just. So cute. I love them so much
REJOICE, EPIC FANS, FOR GIGI IS BACK!
THE QUEEN ARRIVED
Bow for the queen
Whoooooo
Well I mean, she wasn’t rly gone for long hh
(love you gigi, take breaks if you need)
@@HafsaAlami-qf4kt yeess, but sometimes it's fun to be ✨dramatic✨
the evil face when she says "well you ask and now you know >>:D" to the cute "now jump in the water :3!" kills me XD
So evil and so cute at the same time lol 😂 it’s just like DEMON TO 😊
I had to slow down the animatic A LOT when Penelope mentioned the lair of Scylla, but that one frame of Scylla followed by Odysseus’s reaction and the siren sharpening her nails and showing her teeth, she’s just waiting for her food to stop yapping.
Plus I love just how Invested she is in the whole Poseidon thing.
@@Maria-mr3pe just a little tip in case you didn't know but if you're on pc you can pause and move frame by frame using the , and . keys
Understandable if youre on your phone though lol
Feels like on the same type where people who get excited when you ask them about something they are really knowledgeable on (since Penelope siren knows about the best routes from the lyrics of different beast)
@@ItsSoldier101I was on my phone, but thanks for the tip!
🤯 awesome!!!❤
When I first listened to Suffering, I remember feeling like it was a Dream or a Flashback or something, with just a hint of something being off. It's not supposed to be clear that she's a Siren, it's supposed to almost trick you like a Siren would, with it Revealed in a Different Beast. Something I've noticed with other Animatics is that they all seem to kinda shove in your face that she's a siren throughout the whole thing since Odysseus already knows she's a Siren, but I think it shouldn't be obvious to the Audience. Your Animatic did that really well, only really showing anything obviously Siren-like at the bit where it shifts away from the Sweet interaction between Penelope and Odysseus into the thing abt the Lair of Scylla. You really captured all this really well!
I love at 1:29 where it focuses in on Odysseus' eyes and then the siren's lips as her mouth movements are much more defined than the rest of the animatic because he's reading her lips. Incredible attention to detail
1: Wasn't expecting the kid. Can't tell if it's a doll or a young siren.
2: Odysseus's smile afterwards. LOOKS like he's happy, but in reality he's thinking "Gotcha".
3: Odysseus dangling his feet over the railing, teasing her. He's just playing with his food.
4: Love the classical vase artstyle!
5: The close-up on Odysseus's eyes, followed by a close-up on the siren's mouth with exaggerated mouth movements, showing how he's reading her lips.
6: Using a starfish as a nail file, love it.
7: Both of them letting their masks slip, the siren with slightly transforming into her true form, and Odysseus getting annoyed when he's splashed.
Overall, it felt more cartoony than normal, but I feel like that just reflects the silliness of this song.
Extra 8: Someone pointed out the single frame of Scylla. Can't wait to see THAT! in motion!
Kid never moves at all, or changed expression. I assume it's a doll in this animatic.
@@KaguroDravenon Tumblr Gigi said that it’s just seaweed and bones.
i didnt notice #5! i LOVE that!
as stawberrymilknya pointed out the kid is just seaweed and bones, but I find the idea of the kid being a young siren to be hilarious, like "TAKE YOUR KID TO WORK DAY :DDDD"
Oh damn I didn’t notice the hint to his lip reading. Nice catch!
I mean in the sirens defense, after a war and 12 years of horrible things happening on his trip, it’s not too far fetched to suddenly be afraid of the water
After all the shit that this man goes through, I’m pretty sure every morning that he wakes up and looks out at the sea and proceeds to flip it off every morning now because he has to, but simply because it’s just become part of his routine. Because no matter how much he and Penelope get it on there is no being on Greek mythology that fucked Odysseus more than the sea itself
@@sinfuladam "no matter how much he and Penelope get it on there is no being on Greek mythology that fucked Odysseus more than the sea itself" - OMG I'm cackling so hard at this
Wouldn’t blame the guy
When I first listened to the song I thought he was saying he was afraid of poseidon, which is a reasonable fear to have
@@sinfuladamWhy cant youtube have a reward system for comments like this omg 😂😂 Sorry Penelope but your husband is the ocean’s bitch
I love how Odysseus is just teasing the siren by walking/sitting on the ship's railing, like that painting of a fool taunting hungry dogs
I love how the siren seems like so genuinely invested in telling him the best way to pass through sylla . Even through the little “oh no!” Like she’s genuinely so invested lol!
I got the vibe that she loves to get to be clever, and this was a way to scratch that itch in a way that trickery doesn't. I like to imagine that in a different telling maybe Odysseus got her on his side, like with Circe, and he introduces her to Athena like "Hey, found you a new friend!"
I love how we can tell its not Penelope bye the fact that 1. She doesn't have a viola playing behind her in the beginning and 2. She says daughter instead of son, so that's cool!
GIGI'S SCYLLA CAN BACKFLIP Y'ALL, SHES A MAGIC-TASTIC BACKFLIPPING SCYLLA RAWR
Lucifer when did you become an EPIC fan?!?
@@Godofbeingasmartass Since he fell lmao (more like jumped (in the water))
Okay Luci, but you forgot to mention that she also spits fire
@@RacketEPIC no she eats men and spits them out if they're gamey
YES, NITSU'S QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED!
i love how the daughter lowkey does look like telemachus, also kinda random but i really like the choice of colors, they help set the mood a lot, the blue/purple really helps sell the dreamy/fantasy vibe, then there's the style changing when Odysseuss is explaining the situation to the style for vases, and then the yellow for Penelope that changes to the purple/blue again but darker when she starts to talk about scylla and show her dangerous side
Maybe the sirens saw a random pic of the family but telemachus was so young and had enough "feminine" features for them to assume:
_screw it, it's a gal_
@@THATBrokeAroSpecWalletthey didn't have pictures in ancient greece, imo it's just how facts get distorted - while Scylla can look exactly like Penelope does, she actually doesn't know much about the family. Odysseus says things like "I prefer my feet on the ground" and that he's scared of the water, things which the real Penelope would definitely know aren't true. Similarly Scylla may only know that they have a child, but is unaware or falsely assumes it's a girl. She isn't all-knowing after all
@@justahermit1172 That's not Scylla, that's a siren. It would be hilarious if it was her but then she'd be dead because Odysseus killed them all.
Scylla is so powerful that she doesn't need to trick anyone, pretty sure.
I love Odysseus’s little poses on ship
that man and his sexy poses
He is so dramatic
This animatic is so good! the expressions, the camera movement! you've really outdone yourself! 😲
This video illustrates one of my favorite moments in this song, which is just the Siren's entirely chipper "Oh no!" like she's actually humorously distressed at Odysseus's hypothetical. Every time I hear it, I just giggle a little given how casual it makes the whole ordeal Odysseus's been through so far.
YES, I love how playful the siren is in this animatic!
I love how when Odysseus tells Siren Penelope about Poseidon the art looks like a Greek vase! A very neat detail :D
@mitsukishirogane5229
Yep I noticed that too. Very Disney's "Hercules" vibes
LMAO the “daughter” fr said
:3
she looks like fem telemachus- why? i didnt know i needed that
Makes it even sadder knowing what her fate is in the next song...
:3
@@eloquentsloth6080....Welp, That's unfortunate....Anyways-
@@eloquentsloth6080she won't feel a thing. Because she was never alive in the first place.
But she is sooo cute
I love the emphasis at 1:29 on him reading her lips before it’s revealed
I noticed there seemed to be a lot of detail as to syncing her mouth to the lyrics in that moment, didn't even cross my mind it's because he's reading her lips. Very good attention to detail from gigi, as usual.
THAT'S GENIUS!!!
Why is he reading her lips though?
@@Quinton_ovo_ he covered his ears with beeswax so he wouldn't hear her sing and be lured in the water so he had to lip read
@@nefelibata8773 but didn't he remove the beeswax and chain himself to the boat? Is that no longer canon for epic the Musical?
I loved the echo effect every time it was her turn to talk as if to show she's trying to use her voice to lure him into the water.
1:23 Her ‘oh no’ is sooo fake
I was waiting for someone to say that!
It’s so iconic too
Like "good for you" kind of "oh no"
That "Oh no~!" at 1:22 is so cute xD The little theater of him explaining his questions is an adorable touch. God, I love how Odysseus clearly knows something is wrong, and they're both playing around to some degree, but... His mild annoyance at "Penelope" splashing him is very telling. AND HIM SECRETLY LOADING UP THE BOW AT THE END 🔥🔥
When she said oh no, it sounded like someone says something sad but you don’t really care so you just say “oh no” so they think you gaf.
Aaaahh I love the Ancient Greek vase style with Odysseus' monologue and his sassy, playful lines with Penelope. Her smile is even different from the real Penelope showing that she isn't real. Also the teeth and nail sharpening were so cool! They bit with the daughter was so funny to me. It was like Penelope pulled the daughter out from her inventory!
Brilliant animatic! ❤
I like how Ody is chill at first and the moment Sirenelope really confirms that she isn't his wife by saying "our daughter" he's just like "Cue dramatics!"
Man went from schizophrenic to drama queen in like a millisecond
This is genuinely so sad, because you know he wishes with all his heart that somehow, that could be the real Penelope.
Honestly this has to be one of my absolute FAVORITE animation for suffering! I love how “Penelope” seems so genuine especially when giving Ody the information about how to get back to Ithaca while avoiding Poseidon. There’s no subtle animation showing the sirens or that “Penelope” herself is a siren until the ending of the songs. Most other animations make it very obvious that Penelope was a siren the whole time and I think that kind of ruins what Jorge was going for with that song. Bc the whole point was giving as little information as possible, with little hints such as “come play with me and our daughter” knowing full well they don’t have a daughter, until the next song “Different Beasts.” I’m so glad this was the first animation I saw of “Suffering” because it made it way more enlightening and mysterious.
gigis dramatic oddy was genuinely made for this song
I like how you sorta hid the fact that she was a siren in this, all the other animatics blatantly show that shes really a siren, but the way Jay intended is that we dont find out until different beast so im glad you did it this way
The execution of Odysseus telling the story of how Poseidon was stopping him from getting home was done really well. It was in a historic Greek and Roman format, and it looked extremely visually pleasing.
He is ACTUALLY afraid of the water at the moment, because of Poseidon I love that
I love how expressive the characters are! Especially when Odysseus learns about Scylla being the only way home. The expressions and body language are 🧑🍳🤌💋 1:46 1:54 That takes more than knowing how to draw-it takes understanding how human emotion is presented and the song and the story you are bringing to life! You’re so appreciated!
I love how the siren gets so impatient, that she doesn't even try lie or really listen to what he saying or how he acting. You can tell she not use to trying this hard.
The way Odysseus starts toying with the siren KNOWING she's a siren is absolutely wild at 0:55 with the fact she nearly got him. I started laughing, i wont lie.
EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS.
-The lack of linework at the beginning
-ODY BEING SUCH A SASSY LITTLE-
-The pithos designs during Ody’s slideshow presentation
-Siren!Penelope pulling out the map during HER slideshow (personally it’s giving Emperor’s New Groove in the best way)
-Siren!Penelope filing her nails with a starfish
-THE COLORS OF THE BACKGROUND GOING DARKER WHEN ODY ISN’T PLAYING ALONG AND IS LOW-KEY PANICKING ABOUT SCYLLA
SKHFAKJDSNKXKSBFKSHDSJ I LOVE ITTT
I was definitely thinking Emperor's New Groove during the map part!
well done ! The animation was beautifully thought out and made!! ☺☺👍👍
I appreciate how much emphasis is put on her mouth in this animatic, subtly hinting at our boy's scheme before he reveals
I love watching how people interpret Siren Penelope’s mannerisms. This might be my favourite adaption yet. The way she’s so apathetic after giving terrible news, yet pretends to be so eager and caring is great. The camera panning through Scylla’s caves was wayyy cooler than it had any right to be.
0:40 Well at least she's not a dolphin this time.
The dolphin was super but I did always picture a girl
@@Madelyn-e1e :3
The question is where the freak did siren Penelope get a fricken child?
Im guessing she’s another siren
@@BeansproutGamesSirens here rather than just the voices seem capable of taking on physica appearances. That’s probably whats happening? They just made a girl physically resemble him
2:20 penelope is so gorgeousss I woulda jumped in the water so fast 😭😭
REAL
REAL I would absolutely drown though I am ass at swimming
@@DinoandGalaxyand you know the fact that’s she’s gonna kill you the moment you’re in the water
FRR
Same bro
Odysseus faithful as fuck, I would have gone crazy
I love the "daughter" even though it's just seaweed and old bones (I follow you on Tumblr)
Oh my gosh, the quality of this is so 🔥🔥🔥
Also the little cute cartoony explainations are so adorable I can't🥰🥰🥰🥰
THE LITTLE "oh no..." OF YOUR FAKELOPE WAS SO CUTEEEE
Loving Ody’s dramatic ass here 😂
The little uwu on the _totally real daughter’s_ face I can’ttttt
The kinda-rap part being presented Kuzco-style is a highlight, love it!
I like how as “Penelope” is going on about Scylla, she slowly loses the disguise and playfulness, only to quickly put it back up at “Now jump in the water!”
Speaking of, I love the sort of bouncy, playful vibe of this one, and how it’s briefly cut off as Ody learns what he’ll have to do to get home.
The little distortions with the background hissing are really cool!
I love Sirenelope's twirls.
Love how penelopsiren just randomly conjured up his "daughter"
Also the odyseus animation when he says giant waves and giant storms
Pretty sure that's a young siren, she's just learning
@@belle-x_youtube yup XD
AMAZING AS ALWAYS GIGI!!🫶🏾💕
I LOVE the little sound waves coming off the Siren trying to use her song. It's subtle enough but still clearly there.
Such a warm illusion! The "daughter" just sitting there after being yoinked from its hiding spot was a neat detail.
I love how the siren actually looks very friendly and cheery! As much as I love the type of siren where you can see a bit of slyness on their face, I also love this version, where she’s lying super well
This ones my favorite animatic. I really love the camera shifts. It really gives the song and style dimensions. I love it, and the whole musical
I think the eels are so gorgeous as well as the dynamic perspective of everything is gorgeous continue your beautiful work gigi!
THIS IS INCREDIBLE! The part where she says "now jump in the water" after telling him to go through the lair is soooo beautifully done, as well as the splash of water on Odysseus.
Gigi really saw how Suffering didn't have enough suffering in it so is now doing this 😭
I feel like Odysseus's look of affection and longing when he first sees the siren, is real. Even though he knows it's not the real Penelope, he hasn't seen his wife in 12 years and can pretend for just a few minutes that he made it back home to her.
This is so good, I absolutely love it
0:37 - 0:43
I wonder if for a moment, Odysseus lowkey thought how adorable it would be to add a baby girl in the family. 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Also I've binged a few of your videos and you earned yourself a new subscriber. Love your work Gigi! 😊😊
Gigi, Gigi. GIGI, STOP BEING SO FREAKING TALENTED FOR 5 SECONDS! I love this so much!
I just love all the emotions you put into Odysseus, how playful and theatrical he is, just enjoying the moment. He knows he has the thing in his finger tips, and he's just playing with her before he crushes her in his fist, but also immersing himself in what is effectively role playing begin with his wife again. Its very fun and semi-sweet, but also has an odd edge to it. It fits the vibe of the song really well.
The bit where The sirens true features started poking out was just effing awesome (plus, her using the starfish to file her nails was just simply golden. I honestly laughed at that).
And the cuts to the traditional greek art background with Odysseus was GREAT. Its the first time I've seen that kind of imagery in an EPIC animatic and you did it really well.
As a whole, you just did an amazing job with the piece, and I honestly CANNOT wait to see your take on Scylla.
Oh, almost forgot: Her just freaking MATERIALIZING A CHILD was absolutely hilarious. Just a fantastic touch- The comedy in this whole thing is just bloody golden. This is my new fave piece from you.
Finally someone who draws the siren to react in a very convincing and caring type of way while saying "oh no" instead of rolling her eyes! Like she is literaly pretending to be his loving wife i think she would be invented into the act in a deeper level so he would fall for it... Thank you gigi we love you and i am in love with every animation you make! 🙏💖
2:10 THE SPIN, DEAR GOD THE SPIN!!!! GIGIG YOU'RE A STAR❤
I AM BEYOND MAD I MISSED THIS COMING OUT!!!! HOW DO YOU KEEP PUTTING OUT BANGER AFTER BANGER GIGI?!?!
If you were in epic, you'd be able to break the laws of diogenic music with how godly you are!
And Scylla next? You are to good for this earth!
1:52 No, little star!
Star:😔 H E L P 😔
😭
I love her "Oh No" like "Can we just get this over with so I can eat dinner"
2:00 I love how annoyed he is here
Also I can’t wait to see Scylla Backflip
this is STUNNING?
One of my favorite animatics I’ve ever seen to this song!! your movement is so clear and dynamic and your framing/camera movements are IMPECCABLE
Amazing job!!
This is the cutest animation I've seen, my sister and I love Epic and we absolutely loved how you did this!!!
i LOOOOOVE this!!! what makes this song so much fun is how blatant the lies are on both sides, and you do a fantastic job of showing how much they're over-acting without making the scene unbelievable. it's so fun and juicy. i especially loved odysseus's little smirk when he realized he really had her, the moment when his mask drops to reveal his horror about scylla, and right at the end as he turns to reach for his bow. awesome work, thanks for sharing!!