There Are Other Ways | EPIC: The Musical ANIMATIC
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- Fun fact! This has roughly the same amount of frames as my Ruthlessness animatic. Most of them are of just Circe
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There Are Other Ways | Epic: the musical Animatic
Music by Jorge Rivera-Herrans @JayHerrans
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Odysseus being a Wifeguy really saved all their asses
⚡ 🌩 about that
Wellllll, might be more accurate to say it was an extension to life.
Eh hehe...AHAHAHAHA *wheeze
Odysseus being a wifeguy saved all their asses, his friend being an asshole backstabber who undermined him at every turn killed all their asses.
@@rikowolfin4984I wonder how different the story could’ve gone if it hat been Eurylicus who died to the cyclops instead of Poleteis
Cause you know for damn sure Poleteis wouldn’t have opened the bag if Odysseus told him not to
I love how Odysseus flops next to Circe and she looks at him like he's BONKERS. "Sir, this wasn't supposed to be a therapy session-" "I MISS MY WIIIIIIIIIFE..."
my thoughts exactly haha
It’s giving “I miss my wife tails”
@@justemilyhadthatoneerror1254”everyone is dying and i miss my wife” “damn Ody, have this illegal plant i found 😃”
OMG I JUST NOTICED THAT AT 3:15 YOU CAN SEE ELPENOR DANCING ON THE ROOF BEFORE FALLS!
XD
The way Odysseus flops down beside Circle like ''GIRL YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE THE LAST 12 YEARS I'VE HAD''
LITERALLY
FOR REAL!! Like he’s talking to a therapist and she’s like: BITCH WHAT-
Hes such a mood lmao
@@Ghostinasuit He's sooooo ready for a girls night
And Circe looks so surprised too
1:11 the way Circe is both impressed that he is so loyal to his wife but also offended that a man refused her is gold. Very good attention to details, way to go Gigi!
Actually in reality, she got denied 2 times before Odysseus, when she fell in love with 2 men since those 2 men are very loyal to the ladies they're in love-😀
@@Entertainer_Kids_3209 Circe got the only three greek men who were actually loyal to their wives. Unlucky xd
@@adv8882 Maybe she's attracted to loyalty. She just needs to find her own though.
WHEN CIRCE TIED HER HAIR BACK WITH MAGIC 😭😭 IN LOVE
Honestly that's what I thought
That was such a nice touch
YUHH
I absolutely loved that 😍😍😍
Omg, I loved that too 🖤
I love how Circe's all "why didn't you say Poseidon was causing you problems sooner!? I hate that guy"
Saaaaame!!!!!
Remember folks: miscommunication kills people
lmao yess
EXACTLY lol! I like how multiple Greek mythological beings have understandable beef with the bigger time gods
@@CombatSportsNerd Ugh, I know right? Medusa, Lamia, Scylla, Circe, the list goes on
BUT THE SNAP AND CHANGE OF COLOR WHEN SHE SAYS THAT PROFIT IS DEAD OML
Heck yeah profit is dead in this economy.
Lol prophet not profit, but you're right it's amazing animation
Profit is dead? Circe is a communist confirmed!!!
Ikr, it was so pretty and smooth ❤❤❤
Fr
3:22 I like how two crewmates just bear hug eurlyochus when in reality he was the one who wanted to abandon them.
dude how haven't I noticed that yet
THE WAY THAT THE NYMPHS WERE NERVOUS ABOUT ODY AND CIRCE JUST SMILED AND THEY CALMED DOWN??? SHE REALLY IS THEIR LOVING QUEEN HUH
I loved that bit. And Odysseus’ nervous wave to them.
Right!! I'm also loving the parallel between odyssey and Circe from this saga and the new one
Don't forget the slow blink to indicate trust.
Because the nymph were nervous because Odyssey been a human??
@@carolcameron4277 because he's a man in fact
I really like that Odysseus was finally rewarded for not being bloodthirsty with Cerce, my man is getting shat on at every turn for trying to be a good person, nice to see him being rewarded for that
On one hand, war leaves no room for remorse. Prices to be paid in tithes of deep and flowing crimson.
On the other, the merciful man though seldom rewarded can change the world a thousand times over.
Ody a few songs later "I am the monster rawr rawr rawr"
Kinda makes sense knowing circes background, when she was a little girl the gods thought her weakness was empathy,Although this trait would save her life would day little did they know, Fun fact when she was rebelling against the gods she was attempting to free prometheus with witchcraft
@@bum851 yet she was jealous of scylla
@lifesokaymhm2270
That was just one version of Scylla's origin.
I love how Circe is sneaking a knife at the beginning; it's such a better interpretation than i had in my head. When I first heard this song, I thought Circe was just "I can't fight you? Ok, I'll just fuck you to learn if you're trustworthy. That totally makes sense." This take, that Circe was using seduction as a test and trap, is so much better. When Odysseus turns her down because he's married, Circe sees that Odysseus is a decent man and not a threat to her nymphs, so she drops the knife and agrees to help him.
That's actually the canon take 😅 But I had a similar interpretation as you when I first listened to the song
It makes so much more sense
I love that, too!
Yeah, also that’s HIS KNIFE, she just fucking took it, and then she made it disappear into magic. He never got his knife back.
@@brookedickson4118rip knife boy, never getting his knife boy knife back.
1:07 the "i can't!" immediately followed by the familiar melody of Odysseus calling out Penelope's name is SO GOOD
In fact Is her melody, her instrument so yes
3:15 Elpenor living his best life
Omg Elpenor!!!
OH NO
LMAO I HADN'T SEE THE EASTEREGG
amazing. beautiful
DUDE IS DEAD
i have a massive crush on this version of circe, like- the hair, the clothes, the facial expressions, her mannerisms, and all that coupled with the singer's voice????? dead. i'm dead.
Literally me too bro like how am I so gay for a DRAWING?
@@Koi.is.a.demon.from.he11REALLLLLLLLLLL😭😭😭😭
@@Koi.is.a.demon.from.he11same 😭
She is the reason why I'm gay 😍😍
@@Síbyl_Cats yes😭 as well as Athena😭😭😭
Odysseus looks so offended in the thumbnail adfjfssffdfgghgdsaghj
Ody: THIS CANNOT BE THE WAY!
@@IceFoxGirl THIS SHALL NOT BE THE WAY
@@IceFoxGirlSOMETIMES MERCY HAS A PRICE
@Bluecookies1116 SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA BE COLD AS ICE
@omarsalem1219 EMPATHY MAKES YOU GOOD
3:41 AWWW HE'S TALKING ABT PENELOPE!! He's just so smitten, I love it.
"I miss my wife tails"
Por fiel se salvó 😅
@@doot1doo1 I miss my wife Circe, I miss her a lot, I'll be back
@@doot1doo1 im giggling this is so true
The animation is actually so good it’s also so funny/kinda cute how Circe is just sitting there as Odysseus is like ‘my wifeee wahhh’
Nah bud, telemachus is her husband though.
@@JamalPrice-wq2sv I’m aware, but that’s much after Odysseus & Circe first meet. Additionally, I don’t believe it was ever stayed in the Odyssey that Telemachus wedded Circe, but that’s a whole other page of research for me.
@@Rowan_Kaavi You're right! The Circe married Telemachus and Penelope married Telegonus was only stated in Telegony/Thesprotis and far as I know, wasn't written by Homer (the guy that write/documented the original Odyssey poems)
@@TomatenUndZwiebelSuppe pretty sure the Telegony was written by Eugammon but I may be wrong.
@@TomatenUndZwiebelSuppewe should treat Greek mythology like SCP lore whatever you want is canon
3:14 NOOO ELPENOR DON'T JUMP OFF THAT ROOF
Thanks for making me notice that!
GODDAMMIT ELPENOR
@@niroshanaperera7330Tbh it isn' that hard to spot. Imagine surviving a 10 year war, a cyclop, the fucking god of the sea but dying like that
Yay somebody noticed! :D
ELPEEEEEEEENOOOOR 😭😭
Am I the only one who’s going hysterical over the way Circe slow blinks like a cat to the people around her to indicate trust?? She does it to her nymphs when her and Odysseus come out together and puts them at ease- and then she does it to Odysseus at the end?? Screaming. The details in this are immaculate
I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE ELSE HAD NOTICED THAT LOL
WAIT I DIDN'T NOTICE BEFORE OMG THE DETAIL
I didn’t see the few first times I watched this, but damn that’s so cool!
I thought she winked at them! The slow blink makes so much more sense!
Hi ❤❤❤❤
0:53 OH HOLY MOTHER OF HERA
*exhales deeply from gay pannick* My same exact reaction, bro.......
@@Burnt-outXI same 🙂
This is,once again, why I’m not straight…sigh
I don't care if this happened to Odysseus, IT SHOULD'VE BEEN MEEEEEE!!!
@@castlegarden2999no it sould have been me 😡
Love the detail that one soldier was on the roof, and that only two soldiers instead of three made it back. Elpenor just got transformed back from being a pig and the first thing he did was party on the roof
I like the idea that it was only the food that turned you into a pig, and Elpenor went up to the roof with his wine first chance he got without eating anything. Its just funny to me imagining him their during the entire circe saga until he falls off at the end.
Omg… I just noticed that cause I saw this comment. GIGI YOU GENIUS!
I love this masterpiece and a,l your woe for EPIC so dang much.
Ohhhh! I'd been trying to figure out something for so long! How they started with 600 men, then Posiedon leaves them with only 43 survivors, but then in the Underworld Saga, the fallen men say "558 men who died under your command".
Wasn't aware that some doofus went and fell off of a building. That puts my mind at ease.
@@birdlythebirdkid5208 yup, Elpenor is a dude who got so excited about going home that he went ahead and partied on the roof, fell off and broke his neck
Time stamp?
I love the way the song parallels "say no to this" from Hamilton because Hamilton is like "you can't expect a man to deny a pretty woman throwing herself at him, especially not when the wife is away for a bit" but Odysseus hasn't seen his wife in YEARS and resists Circe. I can't fully articulate it, but it's great
He did what Hamilton couldn’t do and that was saying no to this
OMG YES
@user-qj7vv6sf4x yeah cuz Odysseus IS smarter than Alex apparently
@@daniellechristine4823 well yeah, Alex ruined his own life, Ody ruined everyone else's but his, that's kinda big brain
Well…Sorry to ruin your immersion but In the source material He did hook up and have a kid with circie
For some reason I like that Circe shows that she makes the knife disappear rather than other animatics I've seen where she just hides the knife or something. It feels like she's actively trying to show Ody "hey I'm not a threat anymore and I want to help you." Idk maybe it was totally unintentional but I find it kind of sweet.
I like that too, but part of me wished that actually when she took her hair down it’d actually be her taking it down by taking out a hairpin. And the way that it would be seamlessly taken out of the scene again is when she decides to not use it against him and put her hair back up.
But her making the knife disappear with magic wasn’t seen by him, he was looking at the ground and only we saw it, now I do like it better than Circe just hiding it
What I loved about this animation is it showing that she was trying to seduce him to stab him and get rid of him which is a valid motivation. The other animations don't give any reasons why she's doing this
@@Alex-u6n5lYeah! That’s also what happens in cannon for this musical
1:15 "i miss my wife tails"
“I miss her so much”😔
Poseidon in the storm saga: 🗣️🔊🔊“I’VE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT-“🔊🔊🗣️
I miss her a lot
I’ll be back
Odysseus' ultimate power: fidelity. Truly rare among the greek heroes.
You're so real for that
@@galletonfruna8474what kid! I don’t remember any kid! You must be mistaken! 😬🤫
@@galletonfruna8474 "there is no telegony in ba sing se"
Also it's not really a homeric hymn but written far after, so people usually just don't consider it.
@@mattmayhem4377 its not on the homeric odyssey but some authors mention this child who actually is the one who causes the death of Odysseus once he is the king of Ithaca again. Search 'Telegonus', in some traditions he is the child of Calypso but its most accepted to be Circe's
LOL 😂
BRO THATS SO TRUE.
I just need a scene of Ody basically herding his crew like fucking chickens because i swear this is just a really long story of how Ody is babysitting 600 men and occasionally yelling at them like a stressed out parent who is just trying to focus on the road 😂😂😂
At the end they kill a guy and they get in trouble with authorities
@@Smallllllllllllllwolf and then the same authority kills 552 of them yet the other 48 escape
The origin of roadtrip stories fr 😂
@@Lauryn-wf9dw then they get in a car crash and only the dad is left
quote from my copy of the Odyssey "They opend the sack, snd the winds flew howling out and raised a storm that carried us far away from our country. Then I awoke. I did not know wether to throw myself into the sea or to live on and make the best of it" this is my favorite example of how sassy Odyssey Ody is!!
3:17 In love with the physical yet very-much-platonic affection Circe raises Odysseus's chin with here. It's so immediately endearing and sells you on her not really being evil at all - just a kind person jaded after centuries of abuse.
I loved that touch
Platonic?💀💀 he has three children with her, supposedly and then telemachus married her.
@@JamalPrice-wq2sv well if you think about Odysseus' relationship with Circe was purely sexual, not like he had much of a choice cuz Circe would just end him if she really wanted to. He still very much loves his wife and he did what he had to do with Circe to get him and his men back alive
@@JamalPrice-wq2svand also theyre specifically talking about the platonic gesture in THIS animatic, not to say that Odysseus and Circe has a platonic relationship in the odyssey
@@JamalPrice-wq2svin this context it's platonic. Just like Hermes didn't have synth electropop playing when he talked and Polites was barely there
Circe is such an interesting character. Within her songs she lost in terms of power, managed to get out of the situation with only a few actions and almost kill Odysseus, and then when that fails as well manages to send him away (Quite literally to the underworld I might add), all without any loss to herself or her nymphs.
The men bear-hugging Eurylochus is both adorable and heartbreaking. They have no idea he wanted to abandon them- only that he went to fetch Odysseus. I also liked how Odysseus smiled at the nymphs- it showed he truly would bring them no harm. Not to mention the Prophet scene?! That was so perfect!
Hey so I’m actually crying thanks
Also something awful to note, the bigger one, the guy with one eye, gets got by Scylla. He's the last one.
It's so heartbreaking- though I can only imagine how it must feel thinking on how you would've been left behind. Although on the flip side, I also can't imagine feeling helpless that you can't do anything to save them 😭
You gotta love the contrast of Odysseus very human and un-god-like FIDELITY to his wife that makes Circe and later Hera help him.
For all the ways Odysseus tries and fails to put himself among gods trough war and trickery, his best qualities are the very human love and loyalty.
I like this idea, it's wholesome amongst the man becoming monster theme ( which I am so obsessed with too 😂)
I really love this idea, and you're right, it's the thing that helps him the most throughout the story/musical and actually the thing that makes him win the help and compassion of two gods when he most needs it and without which he would have never been able to return home, if they had continued being his enemies and being against him and disagreeing to help him
@@doloresgronenberg5882 Take that Athena, his best qualities are the ones you repressed. And now you have friends.
You know, in the myth, he got her pregnant, right?
@@L0v3dNL0st You that in the MUSICAL he did not? Wild idea that two different things are not the same.
THE ART DURING "Problem is this prophet is DEAD *DUUUUHHHHH*" was just *AMAZING*
Yeah I got chills from that part and it became my favorite part
1:48 I love how girls like “…a loyal man??”
HAHAHAHAHA literally 😂❤
Circe: i am the rizzler rawr rawr rawr
Underrated comment
1:32
Odysseus: *sighs* i miss my wife, circe i miss her a lot ;-;
"I'll be back"
-eggman played by alfred
PUT THE COMMA,THE COMMA IS IMPORTANT
@@TheLampPostinTheroom ALEJNEHWBDBSBDNSJDNEJDNEN
@@artisticweeabo NO!!!! THE COMMA AFTER WIFE AAAAAAAAAAAAA
@@TheLampPostinTheroom BWHAHAHAHA apologies for my grammar 😭😭😭 we all in the Penelope x Odysseus ship here dw
0:37 Circe prowling like a lioness is so good. And I’m loving that Tiresias design.
I do
the fact that circe is like “what is this guy yapping about” as ody just throws himself next to her and trauma dumps
i love how this went from circe's deadly seduction to her just being "that's rough, buddy" towards odysseus at 1:30
Avatar and the last airbender ref?
@@Jakiii_th3ratyes
AHAHAHHAHAH
the sketch of odysseus whining about loving penelope at the end is just 😭😭😭
I love how the motif for "Penelope" plays right after he says "I CAN'T"
holy shit i didn't even notice that!! i love that so much
Jorge does that alot!! Like warrior of the mind during god games, just a man at the veerryy end of WYFILWM.
@noneofjobussines Yes I'm aware. I made this six months ago my guy.
1:30
*Circe moving to the side after Ody plops down*
Circe: Didn't know this was a therapy session but ok I'll be your therapist what's happening?
Ody: I MISS MY WIFE! And Poseidon is out to get me! And I haven't seen my son since he was a BABY!
*Cue hysterical tears from Ody*
Circe: Damn, you've really gone through it, huh?
Ody: YES!
Circe: Alright, I'll release your friends.
Ody: *Still hysterically crying* THANK YOU!
LOL
I love how the thumbnail is Circe trying to seduce Odysseus but he’s like “YO YO CHILL-“ 😂😂
“WAITWAITWAITWAIT”
Odysseus: Aye Circe watch your jet! Watch your jet, Circe! WATCH YOUR JET!
😂😂😂😂
"LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING- LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING!"
"WAITIHAVEAWIFEIAMFAITHFULWAIT" 😂😂😂
the way the nymphs are nervous but then calm after circe winks and smiles at them IM DEADDD OHHH I LOVE THSI ANIMATIC SO BAD. ur circe owns my heart
Ik it's so sweet that their on edge but trust Circe implicitly!
I like the detail of the nymphs immediately being frightened upon seeing Odysseus- really shows smth happened and Circe is just protecting them from it happening again. You can see how much they trust Circe by the way they relaxed when Circe gave the approval that he's okay. AAA small detail but really puts things into perspective
3:18 so cute when Circe lifts Ulysses chin which is like saying: "Don't kneel down, there's no need anymore" and this is confirmed, because Circe have done the sign of “no” with the head.
It’s like she's...softened
I think I’m also… turning lesbian..
@@Heybestie10 fr
Gotta appreciate how kindly Circe moves out of the way when Odysseus flops on the couch, just “oop- let me get outta the way”
"What's your type"
"I have a wife"
"What's your type then"
"my wife"
"and what does she look like"
"she looks like my wife"
"what would you rate me out of 10?"
"uhm I can't do that"
"can't rate me at all?"
"can't rate you at all"
"what would you rate your wife out of 10?"
"she broke my scale she's so beautiful"
"understandable. have your friends back"
"thx"
YES OMG LOL
Well that summarizes this entire song.
Why is that so in line with Epic’s version of Odysseus
@@templin7, this entire song and really the whole musical
No, no. That's more of Calypso's song in "love in paradise"
Gah, you’re making us wait TWO DAYS?! GIGI, THE WINIONS NEED YOUR ART! Stoked tho
244 Likes and no replies??? Let me change that
BUT IKR!!!
OMG YES, *WE ARE THE WINIONS*
3:33 BRO ODY LOOKS SO CUTE LOL
Frfr
Odysseus went from death-risking scenario to therapy session at Circe's palace 🙏
😂 the conversation Odysseus must have had with his crew would have been crazy.
"Hey guys change of plans we're taking a detour to the underworld to get advice on how to get home from a dead guy"
The crew: "Well, considering some of our men were turned into pigs right before, that's not the weirdest thing we've seen today"
"Are you sure we ought to be taking advice from the lady that turned us into pigs with the intent to eat us?"
"But she turned you back"
Penelope must be some hell of a woman for Odysseus to turn down THAT.
so true, so true
Penelope is THE WOMAN I WOULD TRADE ANY GODDESS FOR
Or Odysseus must be one hell of a man to turn her down. EPIC Odysseys, at least...
@@enigmatic3194 odysseus in general :"D
True
I LOVE seeing Circe gather ingredients and cast spells like a witch! Paired with that color change, it feels drastic (and foreshadows the palette of the Underworld saga).
0:16 can we take a moment to appreciate how smooth that snap was
I was going to like your comment but it matched with the time
Circe with her hair down really sells the lion motif she has going on the other aspects of her design, like the markings on her stomac and the cat eyes.
3:13 ELPENOR GET DOWN FROM THE ROOF PLS
I did not notice.....
Dont worry. He'll get down alright :)
Oh he will get down, one way or another.
@@jazzyjaz5910 dont say that dude
he's just speeding up the process to find the prophet, nothing to worry there.
0:32 SWEET MOTHER OF HERA PLEASE SAVE ME WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THSI
HOLY MOLY GUACAMOLELY THAT WAS SMOOTH TBH
Damn
SOMEONE ELSE WHO UNDERSTANDS, FINALLY
I BI PANICKED SO FAST
OMG SHADOW PFP SPOTTEDDD‼️
Circe looks so freaking pretty in your art style! Odysseus has the willpower of a Green Lantern to turn that down. Mad respect. I would have melted.
Same
Fr, her Circe design is still my favorite, she looks incredible 💕
12 years at war and at sea with only one goal: to get home to his wife and son. He tried to be a good soldier, a good citizen, a good man, but what he always succeeded at in this retelling was being a good father and husband.
1:11 THE WAY CIRCE LOOKS AT HIM LIKE 'you **better** give me a **VERY** good reason for throwing my on a couch like that."
Odyseus is like "of course i do. I have a wife."
Circe: Understandable. Here, have your men back.
Hermes: this ended up better then I expected.
*the underworld*
Odysseus: alright guys, no talking to the ghosts we gotta stay focused
also Odysseus: *has a duet with his dead mom*
@@thetombengskiddos6903 HELP-
not him having a flippin duet with the ded ones and rocking the high notes 💀
holy crap Gigi
- Her stalking around him in the first “don’t be afraid” as if she’s a hunting-cat
- baring his throat under her hand??? Shoving him onto the bed with a toothy smile? help I’m very gay
- the gleam in her eyes as she crawls on top of him wtf
- THE LION HEAD ON THE POMMEL OF THE DAGGER okay the resemblance of her movements to a hunting feline were not accidental, I see you sprinkling in all the cat imagery
- Oh I love how very mortal/human/earthy Penelope looks in contrast to Circe’s leonine fey witchiness
- her pose for “this prophet is dead” XD and the underworld transition! That Tiresius design!!
- Ahahah the look from the nymphs and his sweat drop wave
- ELPENOR XD
I'm also very gay for Circe, especially this interpretation of her 😅
I’m not sure if I’ve commented already, but Gigi you are so so talented and your art is ASTOUNDING!!! This is so gorgeous and I always love your choices and vision! I’m so lucky to get to see your art to my vocals 🥰❤️ thank you!!!
@@talyasindel AAA Talya thank you so much!! Your comments are so nice and a really strong incentive for my animatics!!
OH HI!!!
Hello, Circe.
Hi :0
Your voice is beautiful Miss Sindel, I know you probably get told that frequently, but it truely is breathtaking. You are perfect for Circe.
There are so many details i love about this!!!
Circe circling and stalking Odysseus like a lioness
The lion details on the furniture and dagger
How Circe undid her hair
Odysseus reaching out his hand like Penelope did in The Challenge animatic
The sweeping shot like in Puppeteer
The scene with the nymphs
The transformation from pigs to men
And the close-up of Circe's eyes!
I'm in love with this! ❤
Oh my, I'm not the only one who pointed out Odysseus reaching his hand out like Penelope.
And Elpenor on the roof!
I think so much about kindness vs ruthlessness in epic, I’ll never get over how this song and the verse about kindness is the last thing that happens before ody heads to the underworld and becomes the monster he needs to be to get home. Like. He wouldn’t have gotten to the underworld without kindness and vulnerability, and even leaves Circe with a new perspective on what it means to be kind. But without becoming ruthless, ody never would have made it home. You can’t be kind in war (even tho the war’s over technically this is still a war against the elements/the gods) because all that does is leave yourself open to a counterattack.
Yet, Odysseus inspires Circe to be kinder. Circe’s history with men killing her nymphs made her completely cold; Odysseus warmed her back up just enough. She’s not naive enough to let her nymphs be hurt, but open to the idea that some people do have good intentions. It’s almost like Odysseus knew what he had to do subconsciously, and wanted to impart Polite’s message of kindness with someone else before needing to destroy it from himself entirely.
Sorry for the wall of text I’ve been thinking abt this so much lol
This is my favorite interpretation of that whole situation!
I can't agree more! I also think it has a lot of parallels with the Calypso arc (needing divine intervention, attempted seduction by a powerful supernatural woman, Hermes providing encouragement) where it shows that while Odysseus needs to be ruthless to get home, he still has his human core left because a ruthless man would've failed or given up (fallen for Circe's honey trap, just accepted living in paradise with Calypso, plus Hera only letting him go for his Fidelity). The only way for him to get home is to show mercy, both in ruthlessness and truth.
In ruthlessness, there's kindness and in kindness there's ruthlessness. It's important to show one or the other when the situation demands it. Greet the world with open arms but be ruthless when they dare choose not to spare.
The entire situation with the cyclops could have been avoided if they met before they killed a sheep. After that, he should have shown ruthlessness. I think Epic makes it really clear that there isn't a clear cut line and you should choose depending on the situation
Without the ability to kill mercilessly he never would make it past all those suitors. Without the lessons he learned--"he's aiming for the torches"--they'd have eaten him alive. But at the same time without Athena's sacrifice in the name of the one thing she said she wasn't looking for--friendship--he'd have been stuck with Calypso forever.
having heard the vengeance saga the message seems to be kind of the opposite, in that ruthlessness begets only more ruthlessness. Poseidon refuses to show mercy and in the end it comes back to bite him. It doesnt end up being mercy upon himself. It was the same in the case of mutiny. Odysseus showed the same ruthlessness in sacrificing his men, the epitomy of ruthlessness not being mercy upon ourselves and he ended up entirely losing the trust of his crew. Plus in this actual odyssey, Odysseus killing the infant is why he is being punished by being unable to return home in the first place. Like all the Greeks, he was punished for his crimes in the taking of troy
Its about the cyclical nature of violence. Poseidon killed Odysseus crew and now he gets tortured. Odysseus sacrificed his men so now he gets betrayed etc etc. This is the sense in which the message is the opposite. You NEED to show kindness, because if you show only ruthlessness that's the only thing youll get back.
That's why in six hundred strike Poseidon doesn't allow Odysseus to finish the line about ruthlessness being mercy, its an admition that its not. That's why Odysseus says LOOK WHAT YOUVE TURNED US INTO, LOOK AT WHAT WEVE BECOME. Its basically commentary on Poseidon's ideology about ruthlessness. What has it wrought? One murderous psychopath torturing another? Did Poseidon's actions restore his sons sight? Did they not end up with him cowering with a trident stuck in him? Did Odysseus actions save his men? Keep their trust? End up with him having a clean conscience?
In a very real way the circe saga showcase what happens when things dont work that way. Odysseus could have marshalled his troops and razed Circe's palace, he could have killed her. Circe could have killed or refused to tturn Odysseus men back. She could have killed him in a moment of weakness. After all going by your logic this is no less war if battling the elements is war. But Odysseus simply asks and refuses to kill Circe and she in turn him, and the interaction ends with no one harmed. This is what mercy brings, everyone coming out ok. Ruthlessness here would have resulted in ppl dying for no reason and needless enmity, like every other time
Tldr : The whole saga is about how ruthlessness fundamentally doesn't work, and every time someone deploys violence it comes back to bite them, and the only time when bad things doesn't happen, like in the Circe saga, its when ppl are kind and merciful. The saga itself starts with a monstrous act in killing the infant which essentially curses Odysseus to be punished (though both here and in the Odyssey the sins of odysseus are many and his pride is his most notable bugbear)
I need this, I love this song.
Not cannon compliant but what ever, Circe rules and so does Odysseus' love for banana peels (penelope)
Ngl even in the canon I'd argue Odysseus didn't have much of a choice anyway… Which makes Odysseus even more of a baller, somehow.
2:15 Wait cause ngl this part is super cool
2:23 i really like how you make Tiresias look a little bit androginous instead of making him look like an old man like many other animatice i've seen. It reminds me of how in the myths Tiresias was tranformed into a woman and lived like that for a while before being turned back into a man.
Your animatics are amazing, as always, i especialy love how playful and energetic your Circe is.
Gigi posted No Longer You before this and he does look old. I wonder why the redisign unless they plan to make a new version
@naiaracruseno9868 yeah, I think the "No longer you" was with Jorge's demo so it was before the reveal that he's supposed to look young in Epic
1:30 Circe was not prepared to be a therapist- 😭😂
The way elpenor is on circe's palace is just amazing
3:00 omgs I love everything about this ending!
REALL!! ❤
Odysseus be collapsing in the chair like he's at therapy.
This is SO GOOD! The magical sparks floating around her, the transition to the underworld section with the color swap, Odysseus' expressions, I could (and probably will) watch this 200 more times. If it was possible for you to outdo yourself at this point, I think it's safe to say you did. Well done :)
YOO MORTIUS so glad you liked it!! :D
Have you noticed Elpenor in the video?
2:48 I love Odysseus's little wave. It's so cute!
Moments before the Underworld
@@yay29823 True 😭
Circe just staring at Odysseus while he just yaps
Ikr😂 Circe was like "erm shut up boi" Odysseus: *doesnt stop yapping* Circe: *awkward silence*
1:16 I love how soft his face is when he's talking about Penelope, and 1:40 I LOVE THAT HE KNEELS HERE. HE GETS ON HE KNEES AND BEGS. HE JUST WANTS TO GET HIM AND HIS MEN HOME
his face gets even softer at 1:19 hes so in love I'm going to cry
If Odysseus Doesn't Want Her I'll GLADLY TAKE HIS PLACE IN THIS ANIMATIC!!!
real
BAGAHAHAH FR 😭😭😭😭
Dude, please
Odysseys bowing to Circe showing her respect and appreciation for her act of kindness 💖💯🥹❤
OKAY HEAR ME OUT THE PROPHET LOOKS SO FINE IN THAT SCENE 2:22
ALSO CIRCE IS JUST SO FINE AND SHE'S ALSO SO UNDERSTANDING I'M STARTING TO RETHINK MY AROACE-NESS I SWEAR 😍😍😍😍😍
I’m pretty sure that’s Charon the ferryman of the underworld….
You have been herd
1:39 Okay but this moment is actually so good because back then, kneeling down like this left you completely vulnerable to attack, so Odysseus is literally begging her to grant him mercy and not kill him.
3:02 AWW the poor scaredy pig
*Slams fist into the ground* IT SHOULDVE BEEN ME, NOT HIM
to be stabbed?
Me too
@@remnants9974no, to be seduced by Circe
IT'S NOT FAAIR
@@remnants9974if that’s what it takes…
Elpinor on the roof😂
I really love the part where she says "dead" and Odysseus face before he says "wait, are you helping us?".
Dude was entirely sure her plan to 'get them to the underworld' was code for murdering them. Because that's just how his life works
3:16 I love how you added the guy who fell from Circe's palace
Love that the Prophets Design has so many Eyes while he himself is Blind.
Everybody in the live chat is going crazy for Circe and I love it LMFAOO
2:10 AUGH???? AWESOME???
The parallel between Circe's nymphs being afraid of Odysseus and then the 'pigs' being afraid of Circe. 😭
ELPENOR ON THE ROOF AT THE END GOODBYE FOREVER
Dude just the THUMBNAIL IS AMAZING!!
SO EXCITED FOR THIS
Bro, Ody sat down as if Circe was his therapist 😂😂i loved this❤
I absolute ADORE how you animate the tone shift of the song when Circe starts talking about the underworld. It’s just all so good!
Also the design of the profit and the music change shown with the colors is *chef’s kiss* (even if the prophet design was changed in future stuff)
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
I LOVEE how this one shows exactly how much power Circe actually has, most show a more subtle mind-game, but this one shows her power physically, with her dominating the entire interaction, being taller, shoving Odysseus around, and causing him mental distress all wrapped in a seductive package before going in for the kill. She was literally trying to court him with death, using herself as bait and I love that.
I also love how it shows that the only thing that stays her hand and her blade is his loyalty and love for Penelope. She almost seems annoyed that she can’t kill him now, because she’s been in the same situation before, and expected Odysseus to choose the other woman just like Glaucus, but he remains loyal instead. Killing him would be like killing the part of herself that still loves and longs for what Odysseus and Penelope have, so she couldn’t even if she is cynical to a happy ending.
AND amazing usage of film techniques and camera angles, like the ARC SHOT (my fave) the DOLLY SHOTS the TILTING, the TRACKING, the PANNING THE LOW ANGLE POV SHOT OF CIRCE THEN PENELOPE?!!?
10/10 amazing as always, Gigi!
I love that his sword at the start isn’t a full battle sword showing that he is mainly an archer and so wouldn’t have a full large blade
I love how in your Circe animatics they are clearly pulling from the book Circe and not just the The Odyssey
yEAH! I absolutely love circe's design and just the whole movement and scenes on this.
like the beat changes are soo satisfying - magically closing the curtains and setting the mood lighitng, and then after Ody goes 'I miss my wife circe' she's like okay and ties her hair back up
and the beat change when she says "I've been in love once before" and it her and Ody walking down and the camera movement??? jUst super fun
CAN WE TALK ABOUT 3:21 WHERE THOSE TWO MEN WHO WERE TURNED BACK FROM PIGS JUST TACKLE THAT OTHER GUY IN A BEAR HUG??? LIKE THAT'S WAS CUTE
Edit: also I did NOT notice Elpenor on the roof at the end, that's a lovely little detail
"I diEd, and nOboDy noTicED. I diEd, and nObodY cArEd."
"ELpEnor hoW did tHis haPpeN? HoW diD yoU mEet yoUr dEspAir??"
Isn’t the other guy Eurylochus?
@@emerson4140 I think it is, and if so, that makes the scene so much more adorable. It shows how close Eurylochus was with some (if not all) the crew :)
@@I_will_have_an_emu_army I think it highlights how much of a hypocrite he is, though. He was absolutely willing to sacrifice the men that went with him and leave so that everyone else could survive. Whereas in Scylla, when Odysseus does exactly that, makes a sacrifice of six men so that the other 37 could live, Eurylochus loses his fuckin mind over it.
@@Yaeza31 I see both him AND Odysseus as hypocrites in that moment.
Eurylochus because, yes, he was the one who had wanted to leave his recon team behind back on Circe's Island. Odysseus because he was the one who had talked of not leaving comrades behind no matter the risks involved, only to do so when faced with Scylla.
Of course, Odysseus had his reasons. It was either giving up six lives of his crew to Scylla, or run the chance of losing the entirety of his crew to Charybdis. Between those two options, who could really fault him for the decision he made?
However, the circumstances between Circe's Island and the Lair of Scylla differ.
Back on Circe's Island, Eurylochus had no clue he was leading his team into what would be a trap. They had no clue there was a witch inhabiting the land. It was foreign territory. And when it happened, and Eurylochus rushed back to explain the matters, he was outwardly against going back for the men who he had deemed a loss cause.
To him, it was a sucide mission. They had already lost so much after their encounter with Poisideon, it's reasonable to not want to lose more.
But, Odysseus proves him wrong. He goes and bargains the release of the pig-turned crew members, likely much to Eurylochus' surprise.
Maybe it's in that moment that Eurylochus realizes that Odysseus really would do just about anything to ensure the safety of his crew, and the lives of his men. So maybe that's why it comes as such a horrible shock to Eurylochus when he dechipers that Odysseus had been planning to sacrifce six of them.
Because the Odysseus he knew never would have never gone through with such a morbid thing. The Odysseus he knew would have found another way.
It's also important to note that with Eurylochus, the whole incidnet with his recon team was an accident and no one could have foretold what would happen. And though Eurylochus wanting to leave the men behind may not have been the most moral choice, considering his panic and fearing for the worse, it was justified.
But with Odysseus, it was pre-planned. Premeditated murder, if you think about it. Which, I believe, makes the slightest of differences. He knew six lives were going to be lost, and he willfully continued on. However, considering how he had little to no other choices to contend with, his final decision, though gruesome and unfortunate, was also justified.
Both of these characters have made or have wanted to make unethical choices. Both have been through their fair share of trauma and tiring events. Both situations sucked, to be honest, but I can understand the perspectives of Eurylochus and Odysseus. If only things could have turned out for the better for all them.
@@Yaeza31 Tbf, Odysseus has them killed. He gives torches to six men to ensure his survival. Six men would have died anyway but he didn't warn his crew and gave six of them torches. It's premeditated murder. And Eurylochus is mad at how Ody has completely changed from before. Like, he didn't even try to fight back against Scylla or anything. He took the coward's way out which is pointed out in the Wisdom Saga if you haven't heard it already
Circe legit a couch therapist for a moment there lol. Beautiful, stunning work Gigi!!
I'm so happy that they made Circe actually a friend.
I originally heard something else and frankly- I really liked Circe and thought "omg besties!"
SO! I'm happy for that :D
3:15 Anyone else noticed a certain drunk guy on the roof?
ELEPENOR
Elpenor😢
I swear I was about to point it out.
Man we're too slow to notice gigi's Easter eggs
ELPENOR NOOO😭
I just saw him
1:31 idk why but the way Odysseus sat there pouring his heart out while Circe is just there looking at him made me think of a therapy session 😂
Circe: tell me about your weekend
Odysseus: it's been twelve long years...
“That’s a long ass weekend, dude.”
@@FloatyyBrain LMAO
You would not BELIEVE the time I’ve had…
1:45 the detail of the lioness heads everywhere, especially on the dagger! This was another top tier animatic!
The parallel to Penelope through a reflection of sorts at 1:23 , Odysseus is so close and yet so far from her and yet she is everything to him. He longs for her still and I love it. Actual Queen 💜
2:08 I’m not sure if anyone else noticed it but I absolutely love the way odysseus raises his head like excited or hopeful, I find it so cute like a toddler waiting patiently for you to finish something up to go to the park y’know