S1 E16: Student Debt, Gecko Update & ISIS: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

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  • @kiloftd
    @kiloftd 6 місяців тому +361

    ITT Tech was barred from using government loans two years after this episode. They immediately shut down and filed for bankruptcy.

    • @JMSginoclave
      @JMSginoclave 6 місяців тому +49

      Which they could file for, unlike those stuck with student loans. Fucking bastard broken system.

    • @Kauffy901
      @Kauffy901 2 місяці тому

      @@JMSginoclave If I recall, a lot of students who were conned into taking out insane loans to pay for educations that were certainly nowhere near worth that money, and sometimes even worthless, had those loans forgiven. ITT Tech wasn't the only school. I think The Art Institutes (just checked to be sure-- it was) was another of them. At the start of May, 2024, former students were approved for $6,000,000,000 of loan cancellations-- essentially erasing all Education Department loans for 317,000 people that attended their schools from 2004-2017. I don't know if any students who had been making payments got their money back, though.

  • @stellabee24
    @stellabee24 6 місяців тому +334

    and finally the "Libyan Pool Party" joke in the Student Loans segment makes sense

    • @stoodmuffinpersonal3144
      @stoodmuffinpersonal3144 6 місяців тому +8

      I read your comment before I saw that segment.
      Now that I have seen the rest of that segment, I have to agree! 😂

    • @dylancarter6375
      @dylancarter6375 6 місяців тому +5

      You nailed it. I felt the same. 😅

    • @Outsider_98
      @Outsider_98 5 місяців тому +1

      I know right. I have always wondered 😂😂😂

  • @abturska
    @abturska 6 місяців тому +104

    Thank you John and A Great Big World for that touching memorial.

    • @GioYoLOL
      @GioYoLOL 6 місяців тому +3

      Gave me goosebumps. We all touched heaven in that moment.

    • @raineob4996
      @raineob4996 5 місяців тому +6

      John nailed the harmonies with Ian too.

    • @larainneestell700
      @larainneestell700 4 місяці тому

      I wonder how many times they had a rehearse the song The guy at the piano definitely wanted to laugh several times

  • @edwardgrimes7535
    @edwardgrimes7535 6 місяців тому +234

    10 years and it’s still as raw as if it happened yesterday. But I take solace in the knowledge that those geckos are in heaven now, fucking angels.

    • @joeygibson6867
      @joeygibson6867 6 місяців тому +21

      Russian space geckos fucking in heaven definitely sounds like a hazbin hotel plot line

    • @mrfooledyaa5430
      @mrfooledyaa5430 6 місяців тому +1

      They did an updated student loan debt episode not too long ago, and it's depressing to see we've made so little progress. Some student loan debt forgiveness is better than none, but it's not looking good for my youngsters. I guess Russia wasn't lying about re-establishing contact with the satellite.

    • @jacker90
      @jacker90 5 місяців тому +2

      So true, and I cry when ever I hear that song. Thinking about and missing those fucking Geckos

    • @mrfooledyaa5430
      @mrfooledyaa5430 5 місяців тому +1

      @@jacker90 You sonsabitches, I had just stopped mourning 😭

    • @jacker90
      @jacker90 5 місяців тому +1

      @@mrfooledyaa5430 lol honestly I read that in Alan Tudyk’s voice.

  • @lurdesoliveira
    @lurdesoliveira 6 місяців тому +130

    12:40 - The first appearance of Janice from accounting

  • @ezioauditoredafirenze4571
    @ezioauditoredafirenze4571 6 місяців тому +23

    As a current college sophomore who's been watching LWT since middle school, the "go enjoy yourselves" segment is more real than ever.

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 6 місяців тому +233

    S1 E16 (aired September 7, 2014)

    • @jessaminemanchester
      @jessaminemanchester 6 місяців тому +12

      Jfc, when this first aired I was in my first week of 6th grade, now I'm watching this in my senior year of college with my own pile of debt to deal with. Oh the passage of time.

    • @zippyelly
      @zippyelly 6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much for doing this with every episode!

    • @robdavlin
      @robdavlin 6 місяців тому

      Commenting to help push this up to at least spot 2.
      Thank you.

    • @rootvalue
      @rootvalue 6 місяців тому

      THANK YOU this seems like a critical piece of information when re-airing a program about current news 😂

    • @mattjamison484
      @mattjamison484 6 місяців тому +1

      It's already in the description. Amazing how many people are leaping to conclusions. Almost as many as the people commenting "I was like what year is it?...then I saw or heard..."

  • @josephtrevino8718
    @josephtrevino8718 6 місяців тому +498

    Wasn’t sure how old this was until I heard “ice bucket challenge”

    • @Deathtothefalse
      @Deathtothefalse 6 місяців тому +5

      You're an ice bucket challenge!

    • @SquirefromtheShire
      @SquirefromtheShire 6 місяців тому +12

      It’s really strange that they don’t put the original air date on these uploads

    • @Banks4004
      @Banks4004 6 місяців тому +1

      I never stopped

    • @AltuveLJ
      @AltuveLJ 6 місяців тому +6

      @@SquirefromtheShire I differentiate the recently aired episodes from the decade old ones by checking out the title. If it contains “S1” or anything before season 8, it’s older than your mom.

    • @podemosurss8316
      @podemosurss8316 6 місяців тому +1

      I remember that Al Qaeda guy because he looks like the former Spanish President Mariano Rajoy.

  • @dmitrinatachu6022
    @dmitrinatachu6022 6 місяців тому +131

    NOT THE GECKOS 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @turtleofpride4572
    @turtleofpride4572 6 місяців тому +128

    I shed a tear for the horny space gekos. Come and gone in their prime

    • @tracykellison8682
      @tracykellison8682 6 місяців тому +13

      I knew they were goners when he first told us about them, they have already killed a dog & a cat, so I knew lizards didn't mean anything to them either! 😢

    • @bornvlevi
      @bornvlevi 6 місяців тому +2

      @@tracykellison8682 They meant something to the world, damn it!

  • @gozzythebat
    @gozzythebat 6 місяців тому +40

    These 10 year old episodes are the phrase: “The more things change the more they stay the same”

    • @Farzlepot
      @Farzlepot 6 місяців тому +2

      New show title: Last Decade's Problems Got Worse

  • @whydoineedahandle1058
    @whydoineedahandle1058 6 місяців тому +61

    SIX SEASONS AND A MOVIE

    • @larsdewit6521
      @larsdewit6521 6 місяців тому +6

      Rewatched recently and I forgot Oliver is actually in that show for multiple seasons

    • @rueautumn8303
      @rueautumn8303 3 місяці тому

      I haven't finished watching it and was kinda in that bliss not knowing when it ends.

  • @chrissturm1375
    @chrissturm1375 6 місяців тому +42

    6 Seasons & a Movie!

  • @stephenriggs8177
    @stephenriggs8177 6 місяців тому +31

    John arm in arm with the gecko may be the cutest thing ever.

  • @queenbelle5903
    @queenbelle5903 6 місяців тому +69

    I love how we're all just vibing watching the old episodes and realizing the world has been facked for awhile now

    • @astrid703
      @astrid703 5 місяців тому +2

      I know. It makes me feel part of a big LWT community.

  • @nicholaswise5818
    @nicholaswise5818 6 місяців тому +8

    John oliver being able to sing the harmony (tuning aside) is pretty good commitment

  • @TheMagicalSock
    @TheMagicalSock 6 місяців тому +9

    I love that John has pipes and a good ear, and he’s used them both from the beginning.

  • @stevewindisch2882
    @stevewindisch2882 6 місяців тому +13

    That belch in the LBJ recording gets me every time 🤣

    • @rachelmcdonough1506
      @rachelmcdonough1506 2 місяці тому +1

      I show that clip to my high school US History students and we laugh every time.

  • @0Clewi0
    @0Clewi0 6 місяців тому +11

    6:20 Damn, those Libyan pool parties warnings ended up being too real.

  • @valeriedefarias
    @valeriedefarias 2 місяці тому

    Season 1 John Oliver still had silliness and joy in his heart… the last few years really did a number on this poor man

  • @lenaeospeixinhos
    @lenaeospeixinhos 6 місяців тому +60

    Knowing how leaving Afghanistan went, this is prophetic...

    • @piedpiper1172
      @piedpiper1172 6 місяців тому +14

      It was quite the Libyan Pool Party

    • @AIHumanEquality
      @AIHumanEquality 6 місяців тому +3

      Leaving was the best option. There was no winning in Afghanistan for the US.

    • @DragonbIaze052
      @DragonbIaze052 6 місяців тому +3

      It's not a prophecy if it's a rerun.

    • @lenaeospeixinhos
      @lenaeospeixinhos 6 місяців тому

      @@AIHumanEquality it was rather the manner of leaving than the fact of leaving 😥

  • @brianwoo9963
    @brianwoo9963 6 місяців тому +14

    Most ironically, youtube gives me an ad for a for profit school twice: before i started this episode and before the last segment.
    I have a masters degree, gtfoh for profit school ads 😂

  • @studiosandi
    @studiosandi 6 місяців тому +4

    Love John Oliver ❤

  • @Kira_Mine
    @Kira_Mine 6 місяців тому +13

    Love that we might actually be getting that Movie soon. It only took ten years 😂

  • @Jivolt
    @Jivolt 6 місяців тому +3

    28:38 Oliver with the mad skillz harmonies.

  • @kisaragi-hiu
    @kisaragi-hiu 6 місяців тому +3

    Thank you so much for the full episodes!

  • @zoewood555
    @zoewood555 6 місяців тому +8

    22:50 - I was a sophmore in college when he gave this advice 😂😂

    • @sapphiresupernova
      @sapphiresupernova 2 місяці тому

      Same here! Then I got stuck to where I couldn't afford to graduate, nor afford to drop out after a family member got sick and I left to take care of her

  • @studiosandi
    @studiosandi 6 місяців тому +3

    John Oliver, I'm so glad you came to the United States. You are a national treasure.

  • @devyysk
    @devyysk 6 місяців тому +1

    so nostalgic. thank you guys!

  • @joaoborges6851
    @joaoborges6851 6 місяців тому +12

    Goodnight sweet geckos

  • @decencywarrior9598
    @decencywarrior9598 6 місяців тому +4

    The writers on this show have their shit together - you have my approval.

  • @vaibhavagarwal-j9g
    @vaibhavagarwal-j9g 6 місяців тому +17

    I graduated with 100k student loan and I had 12.5 percent interest rate

    • @piedpiper1172
      @piedpiper1172 6 місяців тому +3

      This made me shiver and sent sweat beads down my back.
      45k @ 8.11% doesn’t feel as bad anymore

  • @jaymiller5669
    @jaymiller5669 6 місяців тому +6

    Shout out to everyone that watched and loved Community

  • @aribantala
    @aribantala 6 місяців тому +8

    19:20- 19:35 You can actually see his very real and raw anger right here when he said that these For Profit Institutions targets Veterans, knowing that his own spouse is one.
    Not even John can keep his composure knowing these ghouls are actively targeting his spouse's Comrades in Arms

  • @ariellwrf6844
    @ariellwrf6844 6 місяців тому +13

    Reposting this reminded me of ITT Tech; I forgot it closed in 2016

    • @GioYoLOL
      @GioYoLOL 6 місяців тому

      I almost went to an HVAC program there but couldn't make the commute after my current job there so decided not to enroll. I never became a tradesman but I didn't go to ITT so that makes me happy lmao

  • @BoyAditya
    @BoyAditya 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm bingewatching all of these

  • @fireflyfox93
    @fireflyfox93 6 місяців тому +18

    I love how unhinged this show is sometimes and the shit they get to do for stupid reasons 😂

  • @adelaflores2027
    @adelaflores2027 6 місяців тому +11

    Wonder how Janice in accounting is doing these days. Hopefully well.

  • @kevinmcqueenie7420
    @kevinmcqueenie7420 6 місяців тому +11

    Sadly Afghanistan did eventually turn into a Libyan pool party. Just took a minute.

  • @mehvishkhan
    @mehvishkhan 6 місяців тому +23

    #sixseasonsandamovie came true!

  • @colemanjunior9773
    @colemanjunior9773 6 місяців тому +17

    Thinking about how many emmys this show has during the Russian Space sex lizard tribute

    • @piedpiper1172
      @piedpiper1172 6 місяців тому +4

      It’s a clear sign of the hard work the team put in; earning Emmy’s ain’t easy.

  • @jakec2229
    @jakec2229 6 місяців тому +42

    Could you guys put in the description the original airdate of these older episodes?

    • @SanskarWagley
      @SanskarWagley 6 місяців тому +6

      Agreed. First season was all 2014

    • @User12347ejdj
      @User12347ejdj 6 місяців тому +10

      There is a guy that posts it in every video. Make sure to thank him.

    • @rMeSclan
      @rMeSclan 6 місяців тому

      Imdb probably has it

    • @SanskarWagley
      @SanskarWagley 6 місяців тому

      @@rMeSclan Wikipedia does too

    • @GoldieXBL
      @GoldieXBL 6 місяців тому

      It literally says that season and episode. Google it for yourself like a functional adult. Jfc

  • @MorbidGod391
    @MorbidGod391 6 місяців тому +3

    28:29 somehow this song needs to be on your grandma’s iPod track list 😅😅😅

  • @vanessawhitneypro
    @vanessawhitneypro 6 місяців тому +3

    SO appreciate you guys! Let's keep fighting the good fights! 🗳💙

  • @sondersighs
    @sondersighs 6 місяців тому +1

    Man, those geckos got some unpresidented love

  • @erickmunoz1378
    @erickmunoz1378 4 місяці тому +2

    I fucking love this show. My god. I'm rewatching every episode and just hearing "Say Something" being sang about frozen fuck lizards is helping me lose my mind.

  • @mason4533
    @mason4533 Місяць тому

    can we acknowledge how great the end performance was? like genuinely 👏

  • @aaditkamat4995
    @aaditkamat4995 6 місяців тому +3

    Man, the first season is comedic gold. The punch lines come on one after the other, and there is no repetition just to let the jokes sink in. And the topics are so relevant even today, sigh.

  • @ItsmeLeslieee
    @ItsmeLeslieee 6 місяців тому +3

    10 years later and now I’m dealing with student debt 😅

  • @voodoochild24262
    @voodoochild24262 6 місяців тому +2

    these uploads taught me there's an intro lol

  • @tee_es_bee
    @tee_es_bee 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for releasing the entire first season from a current HBO subscriber! 🧡💛🧡

  • @mikerotch7606
    @mikerotch7606 6 місяців тому +2

    I’m legitimately sad about the geckos, little guys had no say in being sent into space and died not knowing what was going on. 😢

  • @raineob4996
    @raineob4996 5 місяців тому +2

    I wanna know what that phone call to Ian Axel for this episode consisted of. “Hey, do you want to come onto Last Week Tonight and do a duet for a funeral for geckos having sex?”

  • @JackLalane-yt4iu
    @JackLalane-yt4iu 6 місяців тому +2

    It's time to play some Marco Fucking Polo 😂

  • @MorbidGod391
    @MorbidGod391 6 місяців тому +3

    12:58 not sure if this was relevant back then but ITT Tech is now gone and I’m sure that guy would change where he went to school 😮

  • @SigmaGE
    @SigmaGE 5 місяців тому

    I love that he musician is having trouble not laughing at the geckos.

  • @artrogers3985
    @artrogers3985 Місяць тому

    Great episode 🎸

  • @bazilda
    @bazilda 5 місяців тому

    We can now percieve the masterpiece that was the song for those poor geckos.

  • @hockeymusicbooks
    @hockeymusicbooks 6 місяців тому

    Still waiting for that movie!!

  • @laurachristianson1688
    @laurachristianson1688 6 місяців тому +4

    I was incredibly lucky in hindsight……I supposedly attended an online university. From the outset, I thought things were fishy as the curriculum for IT was horribly outdated. But I fell for the Clinton push for you need to retrain yourself for these “new” jobs. I did get some FAFSA loans, but what I ended up with useless education and a huge debt, to the point I cashed in my meager retirement fund get the bloody thing half paid off. I took a hit for cashing out early and so forth. The good news is that dare I say it Biden did something helpful to help me (1) discharge the remainder of my loan after ten years (2) most importantly I got my retirement refunded to me.

  • @studiosandi
    @studiosandi 6 місяців тому

    Those 4 gecko's needed a bear instead of a boy.😂😂😂

  • @kopeschka6748
    @kopeschka6748 5 місяців тому

    That Afghanistan joke hit different in the future they had the biggest pool party ever

  • @Nopadope
    @Nopadope 6 місяців тому +1

    Student debt is so dumb, what are they gonna do, give you a lobotomy 😂😂😂

  • @PremierCCGuyMMXVI
    @PremierCCGuyMMXVI 19 днів тому

    I still can’t believe they felt neglected because iss was taking all the credit lol

  • @bigbadpandah7947
    @bigbadpandah7947 3 місяці тому

    That Gecko shit hurt man.. 😢

  • @Trickniner
    @Trickniner 6 місяців тому

    Is there a reason the original air date isn't listed in the description? It would be nice to have.

  • @samuelrosander1048
    @samuelrosander1048 6 місяців тому +2

    4:45 "Fun" fact, most of Europe and the United States cheerd-on the rise of fascism. The Nazis weren't the enemy, the Italian fascists weren't the enemy, the Japanese weren't the enemy, they were just the people who stepped on the wrong imperial toes. Fascism was more popular among Western leaders (especially economic and political, but also some cultural/religious) than people want to remember/acknowledge. It was especially popular among capitalists, because they knew what fascism was about back then, even if today they pretend like fascism (including Nazism) was all a leftist ideology "because socialism, and didn't you know Mussolini was a Marxist before he started fascism?"
    Fascism has only been a moral panic away because, given that the world's "normal" is right wing (if you don't understand how/why, you should take some time to learn/think about what it really means to be left/right. Hint: it's based on hierarchy, including political and economic). The lessons learned from WWII had nothing to do with atrocities or fascism, and everything to do with "America is #1 because we saved the world single-handedly from evil (that we actually sided with even DURING the war, because we both hated anyone who leaned even slightly left). Oh, and the other Allies helped, too, I guess."

  • @Obiter3
    @Obiter3 5 місяців тому

    I guess Wolf Blitzer's head was always shaped like that.

  • @bornvlevi
    @bornvlevi 6 місяців тому

    I don't know if he did it on purpose or just conveniently messed it up in just the right way but John was actually harmonizing pretty well with the singer at the end

  • @AIHumanEquality
    @AIHumanEquality 6 місяців тому +2

    This aged so well considering who currently runs Afghanistan.

  • @Kingbimmy
    @Kingbimmy 5 місяців тому

    My gut reaction to the end segment was “never change, John Oliver.”
    And then I remembered this episode is 10 years old, and he really hasn’t changed 🥹❤️
    We’ll always remember you, funky little fuck geckos 🫡 🚀🦎

  • @kaylaschwartz8697
    @kaylaschwartz8697 2 місяці тому

    the irony that i was a college freshman when this came out originaly

  • @KrakenIsland64
    @KrakenIsland64 5 місяців тому

    6 seasons and a movie... that I'm still waiting for. Get off Tiger King and meet the quota Joel.

  • @SnappyJCM800
    @SnappyJCM800 6 місяців тому +4

    It’s funny cause you can see in these old episodes that the show and the topics is already starting to slowly kill John

  • @tuckerbowen4626
    @tuckerbowen4626 6 місяців тому

    ah man, remember Janice from Accounting?

  • @gayahithwen
    @gayahithwen 6 місяців тому +2

    It is depressing how much of this is repeating. Or still ongoing, as the case might be. But at least once in a while, you get to see a bullet dodged.

  • @seventothethird
    @seventothethird 25 днів тому

    Love the show, been binge watching for days, lol.
    This particular episode pissed me off though. Im about halfway through. I get that for profit school were scummy to civilians, but ITT Tech was the only "college" that taught the same way as the army. Death-by-powerpoint, followed by 4hrs of hands-on learning. After multiple TBIs, PTSD, and a lot of training in the army I flunked out of traditional schools because cant accommodate alternate learning styles. I'd rather have a scummy school that teaches me the best way i learn. Thats my 2 cents at least. Also, your tax dollars is what was paying for me school, so i wasnt getting any debt at all. In fact, i think i remember reading somewhere that almost 2/3 of veterans were going to schools like ITT Tech because of their hands-on teaching approach.

  • @shafffffff
    @shafffffff 2 місяці тому

    Aaand student loans is still one of the biggest unresolved problem in USA

  • @BillFreese-s8p
    @BillFreese-s8p 5 місяців тому

    I am laughing so hard I'm crying because of the death of space geckos ten years ago. Only John Oliver can make that happen.

  • @northzero6274
    @northzero6274 5 місяців тому

    the "libyan pool party" with afghanistan wound being pretty prescient

  • @callamastia
    @callamastia 6 місяців тому +2

    dang he totally called afghanistan and ukraine 🥸

  • @MitchellTF
    @MitchellTF 5 місяців тому

    At 23:59, their ratings suddenly went down 100%.

  • @DANNYonPC
    @DANNYonPC 6 місяців тому +3

    I wonder how many gay experiences John had

  • @deliverencerise6351
    @deliverencerise6351 5 місяців тому

    i can attest that the graph for i.t.t. tech is Correct

  • @Suzy24
    @Suzy24 2 місяці тому

    RIP Geckos 👅

  • @antowane
    @antowane 6 місяців тому

    How does this show exist? It's so dumb, it great.

  • @DrakonIL
    @DrakonIL 6 місяців тому

    I was in college in 2014, graduated in 2017 with about $55k in debt.
    Now I'm about $50k in debt. Really wish I'd gone ahead with the fireworks out of every possible orifice.

  • @Drazja
    @Drazja 5 місяців тому

    1.I can't watch all episodes on HBO Max.
    2.The playlist is out of order.
    3.I can't watch all episodes on UA-cam either.
    4.Where can I find a way to watch/pirate this series in order? Da fuq

  • @carnelianfox5010
    @carnelianfox5010 6 місяців тому +2

    #goodbyegeckos

  • @CorinneCrow
    @CorinneCrow 6 місяців тому +1

    lol except the English would get the sarcasm

  • @rock-bottom2023
    @rock-bottom2023 6 місяців тому

    Hilarious.

  • @veggigoddess
    @veggigoddess 6 місяців тому +4

    I'm curious how much we spent on the completely pointless destruction of five animals, geckos or not, for absolutely zero benefit

    • @zachswaim1956
      @zachswaim1956 6 місяців тому +1

      I hate to tell you this...

    • @funtechu
      @funtechu 6 місяців тому +2

      We didn't spend anything. Russia on the other hand...

  • @carsonmcarthur9718
    @carsonmcarthur9718 6 місяців тому

    Why do we keep issuing debt if it keeps going up,the solution should be to cap tuition fees and force people to pay up front. I know this would be incred8bly difficult to implement but it's similar to the 2008 crash where everyone defaulted in their mortgages, if people can't repay its gonna to hurt the country when it comes to a head, which could be curbed if less debt is issued, there are more strict laws on debt lending and interest rates. I understand the need for fund but laws need to be made to limit debt to only those who can show the ability to repay. I'm no pro but if debt keeps growing and the gov doesn't care, why doesn't everyone just get into as much debt as humanly possible. If there's no consequence for not repaying debts then the whole system breaks

  • @dylanshavefeelstoo
    @dylanshavefeelstoo 5 місяців тому

    Imagine if the US withdrew from Afghanistan and something pool party-ish happened there, it would be like John and the team predicted the future..
    Hang on though...

  • @stevedixon9734
    @stevedixon9734 6 місяців тому

    Was student debt a problem before?

  • @uberfu
    @uberfu 4 місяці тому

    06:24 Ironic much ?? Afghanistan.

  • @smth.something
    @smth.something 6 місяців тому

    First comment!
    Thank you John Oliver for delivering these episodes for us! 😍

  • @chloecarpenter3635
    @chloecarpenter3635 6 місяців тому +1

    Wait did they post ALL their reruns here..

    • @ultimatehawkeyefangirl
      @ultimatehawkeyefangirl 6 місяців тому +5

      Just season 1 for now. They said they’d upload a new season every time they didn’t have an episode, up until Season 8 I think?

    • @Deathtothefalse
      @Deathtothefalse 6 місяців тому

      Hahaha I love these guy's!

  • @lizabethhampton4537
    @lizabethhampton4537 5 місяців тому

    Listening to LBJ try to describe a gusset always tickles me

  • @tarab4617
    @tarab4617 6 місяців тому

    I went to Kaplan before this show was even a thing. They were so predatory and gross. Literally calling me to the office and threatening to kick me out if I didn’t give them all the money I had on me. Often taking my last $20 I needed to eat for the week. Just got my loans from them dismissed under the “bs lying ass school” defense not even a year ago.