No it doesn’t. It’s not as simple as a pro or anti stance. Every pregnancy comes with unique conditions and therefore this topic is pretty complex. Simplifying it to column A or column B isn’t helpful and only shutdowns honest conversation.
@@Jesusgurl777 You have to understand how silly that sounds though. No one is pro-murder. Life is complicated. I would guess there are even situations where you could justify ending a life, but that doesn't mean you are pro murder.
@@albertfralinger2711 Well, what instances would you justify ending a life? Mine would be if someone was brain dead, and had no chance of survival. If someone murdered someone else. So what does Abortion mean 2 you?
@@Jesusgurl777 Thank you for the honest response. I agree that there certain cases where people can morally justify a type of euthanasia. That does not mean that either of us are pro murder though. I'm not sure how to answer what abortion means to me, but I believe there are situations where abortions should be allowed. For instance there are sadly many fetal conditions that can arise where the developing child will not survive outside of the womb. In those situation I believe the mother should have the right to make whatever difficult decision she believes is best for her and her family.
Calling abortion "pro-choice" or "reproductive health" is about as ridiculous as back in the day when they called slavery "property rights" or "popular sovereignty".
@@Procyon-j7e When little, I thought "exotic dancing" was like Latin ballroom dancing or belly dancing. Lol I miss that innocence. Euphemisms only get you so far. Don't get me started as "euthanasia", especially as someone with mental health and other issues. I pray for the Canadians, especially ones similar to me or with different challenges. Lol Yes, I just used euphemisms for a couple different things.
Exactly. Compare the rhetoric of Stephen Douglas in his famous debate with Lincoln and just switch out "slavery" for "abortion": it sounds exactly like modern "pro-choice" rhetoric.
It dawned on me last night ... IF a woman can so easily kill her own unborn baby, then what other life does she truly value but her own?! Society has become so selfish & "all about me!" It's just sick!
Absolutely... Abortion is notbing mkre than selfishness and refusal to be accountable for choice. Which is why pro-choice is such an absurd idea. Thats the entire progressive movement... Refuse to be accountable for choice.
If you’re a conservative snowflake…. don’t read my next paragraph, or I’ll have to make you a safe place…. You’ll cry for a ba-ba and a binky….. 61% of women who get abortions go on to have children….. Majority of women had a child when they got an abortion….. 15% of aborting couples are married people….
@@pasta8470 Good question. Since I know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, hated black people and saw us as "Weeds that needed to be exterminated ." And that so many black people have been brainwashed into believing that the killing of innocent life is ok, I am letting that brave and courageous woman know that this Blackman supports her.
@@s-w and although they know the righteous requirement of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.
Speaker: "I'm pro-choice to do what they like." Kristan: "Pro-Choice to do what?" Speaker: "To do what they want with their own body." Kristan smiles: "Ahh, having an abortion." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love her Even though I'm not American nor reside in America, I admire Kristan Hawkins for her courage and well-mannered engagement with the audience. God bless her, God bless America.
Not just having an abortion, there's contraception which her religion opposed and pretty much anything other than being part of her religion they oppose.
Pro choice is just a change of words to make infanticide sound better. It's to make those who are pro abortion not feel so bad about the decision to end a human life. Kudos to this woman for calling it out.
I am anti-abortion but still pro-choice. If the death penalty is still legal in this country and that's "legal" murder, then so should abortion. It's as simple as that.
@@tylerj7298The death penalty is punishing an evil person for evil acts. Abortion ends the life of an innocent child. They are not the same. Abortionists should be receiving the death penalty, in my opinion.
@@llpalmer5082 nope the are the same thing. The death penalty is murder that’s what it is. If you’re argument is pro-life, then you’d be pro-life across the board. So you’re not really pro-life, you’re just anti-abortion. Just admit that.
@@tylerj7298 What logic even is that? The death penalty is punishing evil as the previous comment said and abortion is what? Punishment of the innocent? For what? Death penalty is a punishment for what someone did like killing someone for an example. Abortion is killing the baby for what?
@@LizwiththeFrizz That is not telling you what to do. That is telling you what you _may_ do. ("If you like, you can have some ice cream." --"Don't you tell me what to eat!")
Saying pro-choice instead of pro-abortion is just trying to sugarcoat it. That's like saying murdering someone is simply getting them out of your life.
So forced-birthers don’t sugarcoat… they call abortion “murder”…. but what did they do about all this supposed murder?…. Not much…. There were 63,000,000 abortions….. Ya gotta wonder where they were when the fetuses need their help….. Forced-birthers get mad about abortion long enough to type a comment…. then they cool off, and quickly move on and forget….. Their deeds don’t exactly match up with their rhetoric…..
I agree, but "pro-life" is at least as bullshitty. "What do you mean, pro-life? Like what about animals that are alive? Are you vegan?" "No." "OK, war kills people, are you anti-war?" "Depends on the war, but not necessarily" "Anti-capital punishment?" "Nope." "Do you want to terraform Mars to spread life further than Earth?" "What? No." "Well then what the hell do you mean?" "I don't think women should be legally allowed to procure an abortion!" "Well gee, that's oddly case-specific. It would seem to me that 'anti-abortion' describes that opinion better." "But the 'anti' sounds so negative!!!1!"
@@rodiusmaximus the voice sounds like a woman on testosterone, and the mannerisms are not masculine at all. But the biggest tell is the face looks female despite the disguise
Did you know in Jewish law it's required for a woman to get an abortion if her life is in danger? I'm sure lots of people don't know that. So banning abortion infringes on religious rights.
@@tylerj7298 Where in the Bible does it quote this? Or which internet source did you get that from. Please share it! I would like to have it for reference please!
That's ALWAYS the difference between us and them. They're irrational, while we are perfectly sane! That's how you know that they're not right in the head!
Choosing the words they are using plays a big part in a person's conscience as far as right or wrong doing. We all have to make "choices "The words Reproductive health care. What in those words has anything to do with abortion??To Reproduce is to create or to make another life. Abortion is the opposite. Words matter
"Words matter". Indeed they do. So what does it say about the pro life side when taking away the option of abortion forces women to give birth against their will but the pro life side isn't up front and honest about it?
@@albaraka7319 Kristin said she introduces herself as anti-legal abortion. Pro-life is the generic term given to those against abortion. We’re pretty upfront that we don’t believe women should kill the little human in their womb.
@@albaraka7319 How are you actually still arguing with people here, over facts as mind - numbingly fundamental as "F = ma"...or "water is wet?" What is your purpose, here? You're just wrong. Period. Magnificently, _hysterically_ - so. The end. Take the L. Get over it. Invest in the eduction you've somehow managed to delude yourself into believing you've already obtained...but _whatever_ you do, remember to never -- *EVER* -- share your thoughts in a public forum, for _any_ reason, ever again. Doing so is really only a good look when you're intelligent. You're welcome.
@@83btm "What is your purpose, here?". To see why people are so supportive of forcing women to give birth against their will. "You're just wrong. Period. Magnificently, hysterically - so. The end." Then why can't you provide evidence proving I'm wrong? "Take the L. Get over it." Anyone who claims someone else is wrong but can't explain and demonstrate how and why they are wrong are just projecting their own failure. That's why it's called an empty assertion. "Invest in the eduction you've somehow managed to delude yourself into believing you've already obtained...but whatever you do, remember to never -- EVER -- share your thoughts in a public forum, for any reason, ever again." Or what boy? What will you do about it? Make more empty assertions because you can't do better which ironically shows who really lacks an education? "Doing so is really only a good look when you're intelligent." I agree. So why did you speak when you are not intelligent? "You're welcome." Couldn't have put it better myself.
If someone is actually "Pro-Choice" they would empower women & organizations that provide help in women in crisis. Why is the choice abortion? Shouldn't the choice be at the beginning? Choosing whom to date? Choosing monogamy? Choosing abstinence? There are so many choices before having sex.
See, it's a simple as this! They know there are ways to prevent it! They just don't care. They use abortion as an excuse, to say they're not ready to be parents? Hmm. Should've thought of that before you opened your legs. They do this because they don't want the responsibility or accountability. If they feel they're responsible enough to have sex, they're responsible enough to be a parent! And they get SO shocked when they find out they're pregnant! Like, you had sex, what did you think was gonna happen? This is EXACTLY why you wait to have sex AFTER you get married. Then there's no heartbreak, because you don't wind up alone and pregnant!
@@smbarone2000 Because by being against abortion you are literally taking the position of wanting to take a woman's choice away. If women has a choice they can either choose to remain pregnant and give birth or they can choose to get an abortion. By being against abortion you don't want women to have a choice and instead want them to be forced to remain pregnant regardless of whether the woman wants to or not. That is literally anti choice.
@@MatthewBentz- No one is taking the woman's choice away-she has the absolute choice what to do with her body before possibly getting pregnant (abstinence). The issue comes down to hedonism and wanting to live without consequences.
I agree…. That’s right, you can’t compromise on abortion…. either a woman can get one or she can’t….. It should be the woman’s decision whether she keeps her uterus occupied…. mind your own business….
Usually the response is for mother--oops sorry,birthing "person" and not the "clump of cells" unbeknownst to them ,their entire make up is from a cumps of cells 🤷🏻♂️
So if Kristen isn’t sugarcoating…. If abortion is murder, does she think women should get the death penalty or life in prison?…. that’s what you get when you murder a REAL person…..
Hello, hello?…. Is this thing on (tap tap)….. It’s been two months…. were you able to think of an answer…. is abortion murder, and should women get the death penalty or life in prison?
@@Procyon-j7e Abortion isn't murder. And taking away the option of abortion forces women to give birth against their will. Are you honest about that aspect of no abortion stance?
@@albaraka7319 There's a living human being inside a person that's dependent on said person ,you remove the "clump of cells" against it's will ,it's murder 🤷🏻♂️ The one grey area for me is if the child is gonna be severely mentally ill and/or wheelchair bound, at that point it isn't "living".
I'm pro-choice because while I believe abortion is wrong and wouldn't do it myself; I don't believe in forcing my opinion on others. There are definitely people who are pro-abortion though. They exist and they just use the word pro-choice because that is the popular term. Just like some people use the words "pro-life" and but then support the death penalty or will allow abortions in certain circumstances like rape, incest or underage pregnancy. 🤔
I had a whole debate with a woman about this a few weeks ago . She was in favor of the term pro-choice instead of pro abortion but crazy part was that she claimed to be pro-life . Sorry ,I refuse to use the term pro-choice because the baby in the womb doesn't have a choice in the matter .
Trust me.. the main problem is not even abortions, it's the normalization of sex before marriage/one night stands, especially in western culture. These issues would drop drastically in % if people stopped messing around, it's like people want to have fun so much they forget sex is mainly about reproducing lmao
Exactly. The rise in abortions is corelated with sexual "liberation" (more acuratelly described as "degeneration") Promiscuity, casual sex and sex out of wedlock are the roots of the problem.
Kirsten is pro-COERCED-birth….. she supports taking women’s human rights away from them….. She is anti-individual liberty….. That’s what she needs to admit, and I wish she would……
I used to be pro choice now I have a kid. 360 I wish I could adopt them all and my daughter does too. She wants us to have a safe home for all kids. She is 8 and has more love in her heart that these people need.
Here is my problem, I asked my 7 year old child what he knew about pro-choice. His response was that choosing whether to raise his hand in school was a good thing, and choosing what he wanted to eat for breakfast was a good thing. I then explained abortion and asked his thoughts he said abortion was murder and murder was evil that people shouldn't choose that. God forgive us.
@@fl_snorkeldork The point is that a 7-year-old understands what an "educated" college student fails to understand. The student actually seems to understand the logic, only he doesn't agree with it because it contradicts his argument, which is why he reverts to his euphemism.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 No one's forcing women to get pregnant. Only trying to stop them from ending human life for the sake of convenience. There's literally no point in the entire process where the government forces a woman to do anything. It's trying to prevent a murderous act, not force anything. You may as well claim that by criminalizing murder, the government is forcing everyone to suffer living with each other against their will. I mean, sure, I guess you can twist things to view it that way, but your great alternative of 'just let them kill' has no moral or legal logic to back it up.
@@hexl702too5 My comment went over your head. It’s not that a person can’t say the word abortion, it’s that you’re forcing them to say the opposite of the cover up phrase, “pro choice.”
@@Earthtime3978 Lol silly!….. Pro-choicers favor THREE options for women…… Do you understand the word “three”?….. Forced-birthers put words in our mouth and harp on the words THEY put there…. they think we favor abortion over any other choice and we “hope” she gets one….. and if she chooses something else, we’re supposedly mad or something….. If a woman chose abortion over the other options, then SHE was the one who was “pro-abortion”, not me….. Why aren’t you judgmental to the woman who actually made the choice?…..
@@Earthtime3978 Hell….. if this is what you think of people who just debate the issue….. what you must think of a woman who actually aborted!….. Did she commit murder?….. Let’s talk about the language YOU guys use…..
Let's say that there's a pregnant woman who goes to the hospital to do a pregnancy check up. Sadly when the doctor examines her with the ultrasound, found out theres no movement like heartbeat or even any form of activity of the clump of cells by saying "I'm sorry, but i don't see any activity anymore, i cant hear any heartbeat" to the parents to be. So what was that if its not a human that was developing in her womb, that absorb all the nutrients from the mother since they need it and absorb the oxygen that their mother breath in? This clump of cells is certainly part of HUMAN development. They are developing their own system in order to be fully formed of a human being. And these people still think they have the right to take their right to develop and growing. Have you seen a real footage when a baby is in the process of being aborted??? They do react by moving all their body parts and trying to push what's coming to them cause they feel the pain. And just like the "borned" human beings as these pro-choice said, when the the doc found out that the clump of cells isnt alive anymore, they NEED to remove it from the woman body. Because it could actually rot inside and even can cause blood clots. So if its part of her body, then why do they need to get it out? Why the body cant just simply absorb it since its part of her body? So I'm just saying that so far, i never saw any pro choice made a logical scientific reasoning (not even research lol) to prove what they believe in besides theyre just being arrogant since they just wanna do what they wanna do. No matter if it harms other human being or an early form of life or whatever.
A few years ago, an anti-abortion group wanted to have billboards with graphic photos of late term abortion procedure and results. This visual of the procedure was quickly shot down as indecent and obscene and was disallowed and yet the procedure itself was promoted. That says it all.
choice is what you had before you made the conscious decision to get on with someone. when you get rid of the consequence of your choice, it is called something else.
A completely missed opportunity to make that point that, if she is uncomfortable with the term pro-abortion, it is because she realises that abortion is not a desirable thing, its ugly to confront the consequence of her belief. Pro-choice is a euphemism because it concentrates on the woman, and her right to choose. By calling it pro-abortion you are centring on the baby and a persons right to exterminate it if they feel like it.
Pro lifers support many choices. Just not killing. Exterminating the human you created is exactly what pro abortion is. Lol. You laid it all out yourself and still don't see it.
When someone tells me they're pro choice and not pro abortion, I ask them the same questions I get asked because I'm pro life. I ask what they're doing to help those who choose to have their baby? Are they volunteering at or financially supporting a pregnancy crisis center, adopting or fostering? It becomes very obvious when asked that most aren't not pro choice but pro abortion.
Lol silly!….. Would you feel like a damn fool if you were wrong?…. Hexl is a pro-choice woman who has donated to maternity homes….. There’s no contradiction between that and being pro-choice….. I can believe that women should not be criminalized for abortion, AND that women need more tangible help than hot air and marshmallow pablum….. Which is usually the only help forced-birthers offer…..
There was a sign a guy had at a wrestling show. It said pro-choice pro science pro wrestling. I asked how can you be pro-choice if your pro science. And oh my God the attacks I got. All I did was question the sign without even saying What side I'm on.
@@sueryan8320 It doesn't matter whether she does or not. Abortion is still wrong. Intentionally causing a child's death will never make you the good guy.
@@jasonweinstock1282 I am glad to see you are opposed to vaccine mandates, we will have to disagree on abortion being a right since it is the antithesis to the right to life.
@@jasonweinstock1282 Why? How can you protect liberty if you can't protect life? Abortion is an act of aggression against the most innocent that results in murder.
honestly, pro-choice in broad terms can be used in any scenario if by their definition, "to be able to do with my body" like women who go into sex industries are "pro-choice" because it's their body to do whatever, or when people get cosmetic surgery... it's their body to do what they want. if they really believe in pro- abortion and the ideas of it, why are you afraid of the label????
Because she goes too far in the other direction, she is pro-coerced-birth….. That should not be her prerogative….. The woman decide if she stays pregnant……
@@hexl702too5 You can't coerce a woman into giving birth. Birth is the natural end result of being pregnant (unless something goes wrong). Abortion is the interruption of that process.
@@hexl702too5 To "end a pregnancy" is to kill a child. It should be treated like any other murder. The fact that the child gets no justice for that cruelty is a flaw in our system.
Where the pro choice movement really loses me is denying that the action of abortion terminates life. It isn't a tricky question about when life begins and a belief that isn't rooted in reality is catastrophic.
I'm Catholic and was raised by Catholics. When I was about 16 years old and started spending more time with girls, my grandmother said something to me and it stuck. She said if I were to get a girl pregnant no abortion, and I would have to raise the kid. That kept me on the straight and narrow. 🤔🙂
@@baldwelder8775 you basically paraphrased what I was thinking. They know it's killing an unborn baby. They just refuse to acknowledge it, because they know the moment they do, their whole argument falls apart.
Here is what I think they should enforce on states that allow abortion: Doctors who perform the abortion are not allowed to cut the baby in to pieces and vacuum it out but rather they are supposed to get it out of the womb as it is and give it to the parents to bury it. This way they will see that they actually killed a living human being 😢
@@denniswakabayashi9000 I wouldn’t say prefer but rather if abortion is going to happen regardless, then parents need to see what they are really doing and it’s not just a medical procedure.
@@KingStr0ng So what do you call it when forced-birthers sit on their ass while abortions take place?….. They always claimed to love babies…. but you sure couldn’t tell that by the abortion statistics…. 63,000,000 in 50 years….. I wonder what conservatives would do about abortion if they thought it was immoral…. 🤔
Seems we’ve found our next single question that dismantles an entire lie. What is a woman? And now, Are you pro abortion? Thank you for all the work you do. God bless and take care.
Both irrelevant, and easily dismissed and I suggest not repeating them in public because you'll get laughed out of the room. Using an unwilling body is wrong, regardless of gender. Some of the women of Texas suing their own state were prolife, and still required abortion healthcare so the term pro abortion denies them their reailty. They are Prolife, yet still needing abortion healthcare. You're not rational. Seek help.
@@freedomishavingachoice3020 An innocent child is not “using” someone. They’re not doing anything wrong and do not deserve punishment. Someday we will have artificial wombs as well-it’s literally in the works as we speak. Will you still advocate for killing innocent people when we have artificial wombs?
@@narnia1233 I never said the fetus was guilty of anything. Please do not lie about my words. I said none of us are legally allowed an unwilling body for anything. Do not change my words. It's rude.
@@freedomishavingachoice3020 That’s literally a contradiction what you just said. If the child is not guilty of doing anything wrong then your point of them using someone’s body illegally is wrong. And I’ve explained to you over and over that even if we accept your premise that using someone’s body is illegal and that a child was doing an illegal action-that STILL doesn’t give you the right to kill them.
The moment you acheived that oh so glorious "GOTCHA" you can see his brain crack...first spider legs then into a gazillion pieces!!! itwas priceless! Thank you and keep it up!!
Claiming to be pro-choice but not pro-abortion...is like saying you are pro-the decision to be able to drink and drive, but being against drunk driving. It isn't a logical stance.
So according to this person, pro-choice is about doing what you want with your body... Which involves removing a developing baby from your womb... Which is literally what an abortion is... Which means he's pro-abortion... So... pro-choice is pro-abortion... This person really didn't think about this argument, did they? :P
I don’t like the fact of mothers killing their children, but I hate the fact that the law defines abortion, OF ANYTHING in the “woman” being removed. Including cancer and tumors
The first time I seriously tried to get into this topic, I saw "anti-abortion" and "pro-choice". It took like two seconds of further searching to see they were just pro-abortion, because as you can see here, the "pro-choice" do not like the idea of anything other than abortion. Even PlannedParenthood, despite the name, is an abortion clinic. They intentionally use confusing language to mask their real agenda, they even treat people like they're stupid. All it takes is to talk about it and ask questions to know the real answers.
@@chrisazure1624 so,you think that,just because a woman has sex,that she should expect to get pregnant and pay the consequences? I sure as hell don't think so! What women do with their bodies, and how people live their sex lives is their business! Just because a woman consents to sex does not mean she has to consent to carrying a pregnancy to term,if she were to find out she is pregnant!
@@chrisazure1624 would you accept or allow abortion in cases of rape or incest? I believe people should be proactive and responsible when it comes to contraception.but, contraception can fail,and you can't penalize someone for at least trying! That's one reason why I think abortion should be available as an option,should contraception fail
Pro-choicer: You're anti-choice! Pro-lifer: If I'm anti-abortion, you're pro-abortion. Pro-choicer: I'M NOT PRO-ABORTION! But you're anti-abortion and I'm not!
Pro-Abortionists: "We're pro-choice! Women have the right to choose!" Woman: "I choose life." 2nd Woman: "I choose protection." 3rd: Woman: "I choose saving myself for marriage." Pro-Abortionists: "No! Not like that!"
I am so sick of people saying a woman has a right to do what they want with their body when they are talking about an unborn baby. An unborn child is a separate human life with its own DNA, brain, heart and lungs.
The fact they hesitate at using the term "pro-abortion" means on some level, deep down, they know abortion is wrong.
No it doesn’t. It’s not as simple as a pro or anti stance. Every pregnancy comes with unique conditions and therefore this topic is pretty complex. Simplifying it to column A or column B isn’t helpful and only shutdowns honest conversation.
Yes, it does. It's to "sugarcoat" the word pro murder!
@@Jesusgurl777 You have to understand how silly that sounds though. No one is pro-murder. Life is complicated. I would guess there are even situations where you could justify ending a life, but that doesn't mean you are pro murder.
@@albertfralinger2711 Well, what instances would you justify ending a life?
Mine would be if someone was brain dead, and had no chance of survival.
If someone murdered someone else.
So what does Abortion mean 2 you?
@@Jesusgurl777 Thank you for the honest response. I agree that there certain cases where people can morally justify a type of euthanasia. That does not mean that either of us are pro murder though.
I'm not sure how to answer what abortion means to me, but I believe there are situations where abortions should be allowed. For instance there are sadly many fetal conditions that can arise where the developing child will not survive outside of the womb. In those situation I believe the mother should have the right to make whatever difficult decision she believes is best for her and her family.
Calling abortion "pro-choice" or "reproductive health" is about as ridiculous as back in the day when they called slavery "property rights" or "popular sovereignty".
Too much euphemism
Or like a stripper wanting to be called an "exotic dancer"😆
@@Procyon-j7e When little, I thought "exotic dancing" was like Latin ballroom dancing or belly dancing. Lol
I miss that innocence.
Euphemisms only get you so far. Don't get me started as "euthanasia", especially as someone with mental health and other issues. I pray for the Canadians, especially ones similar to me or with different challenges. Lol Yes, I just used euphemisms for a couple different things.
Exactly. Compare the rhetoric of Stephen Douglas in his famous debate with Lincoln and just switch out "slavery" for "abortion": it sounds exactly like modern "pro-choice" rhetoric.
excellent point
i never realized how ridiculous 'pro-choice' sounded until i became pro life & anti abortion.
Same!
same here!
I agree.
I hope you find self-esteem.
That’s masculinised woman
It dawned on me last night ... IF a woman can so easily kill her own unborn baby, then what other life does she truly value but her own?!
Society has become so selfish & "all about me!" It's just sick!
True. I wouldn't want anyone like that around my children or pets
Absolutely... Abortion is notbing mkre than selfishness and refusal to be accountable for choice. Which is why pro-choice is such an absurd idea. Thats the entire progressive movement... Refuse to be accountable for choice.
If you’re a conservative snowflake….
don’t read my next paragraph, or I’ll have to make you a safe place….
You’ll cry for a ba-ba and a binky…..
61% of women who get abortions go on to have children…..
Majority of women had a child when they got an abortion…..
15% of aborting couples are married people….
Exactly, eventually men seek mates who will extend their bloodlines. Why waste time on a woman who would kill your child in the end?
@@mikepuleo9375 you do. You just dont it
Speaking as a black man in America, I simply love this woman and the truth that she shares. God bless her!!!
Your skin colour doesn't matter but your opinion does.
What has your race got to do with that?
@@pasta8470 Good question. Since I know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, hated black people and saw us as "Weeds that needed to be exterminated ." And that so many black people have been brainwashed into believing that the killing of innocent life is ok, I am letting that brave and courageous woman know that this Blackman supports her.
@@BroHood100 But nobody mentioned Margaret Sanger and nobody mentioned black people.
Who cares what color your skin is. Geez
Because deep inside they know it’s morally wrong they just can’t allow themselves to admit it out loud
Suppressing the truth in unrighteousness
Yep and it is sick.
They want to place the sin solely on the woman killing the baby, not themselves.
@@s-w and although they know the righteous requirement of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.
I'm proud of my abortion. 💙
Prime example of everybody is grown until it’s time to take responsibility as a grown person
leftists are very well known for not wanting to take accountability for their actions.
Sounds like to me he never went through puberty
I don't need your opinion
Speaker: "I'm pro-choice to do what they like."
Kristan: "Pro-Choice to do what?"
Speaker: "To do what they want with their own body."
Kristan smiles: "Ahh, having an abortion."
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love her
Even though I'm not American nor reside in America, I admire Kristan Hawkins for her courage and well-mannered engagement with the audience. God bless her, God bless America.
Not just having an abortion, there's contraception which her religion opposed and pretty much anything other than being part of her religion they oppose.
Yes having an abortion among other things that the church disapprove of
Pro choice is just a change of words to make infanticide sound better. It's to make those who are pro abortion not feel so bad about the decision to end a human life. Kudos to this woman for calling it out.
In the civil war the South was Pro-choice... not pro-slavery
I am anti-abortion but still pro-choice. If the death penalty is still legal in this country and that's "legal" murder, then so should abortion. It's as simple as that.
@@tylerj7298The death penalty is punishing an evil person for evil acts. Abortion ends the life of an innocent child. They are not the same.
Abortionists should be receiving the death penalty, in my opinion.
@@llpalmer5082 nope the are the same thing. The death penalty is murder that’s what it is. If you’re argument is pro-life, then you’d be pro-life across the board. So you’re not really pro-life, you’re just anti-abortion. Just admit that.
@@tylerj7298 What logic even is that? The death penalty is punishing evil as the previous comment said and abortion is what? Punishment of the innocent? For what? Death penalty is a punishment for what someone did like killing someone for an example. Abortion is killing the baby for what?
They don't even know what gender they are, yet they want to tell you what to do with your child.
Who tells you what to do with your child??? No one who is pro-choice would presume to do that.
@@ColonelFredPuntridge they do.. they say you’re able to kill a child lol
@@ColonelFredPuntridge democrats do
@@LizwiththeFrizz That is not telling you what to do. That is telling you what you _may_ do.
("If you like, you can have some ice cream." --"Don't you tell me what to eat!")
3 weeks ago their SCOTUS pick couldn’t define a woman and now they want to lecture us on women’s rights.
Warriors for Christ
Saying pro-choice instead of pro-abortion is just trying to sugarcoat it. That's like saying murdering someone is simply getting them out of your life.
So forced-birthers don’t sugarcoat… they call abortion “murder”….
but what did they do about all this supposed murder?….
Not much….
There were 63,000,000 abortions…..
Ya gotta wonder where they were when the fetuses need their help…..
Forced-birthers get mad about abortion long enough to type a comment….
then they cool off, and quickly move on and forget…..
Their deeds don’t exactly match up with their rhetoric…..
Where were you when “all these babies were getting murdered”?
No, it's rather the aversion to taking a (probably perceived authoritarian / fascist) position of dictating people what to do or not to do. 🤷🏻♀️
I agree, but "pro-life" is at least as bullshitty.
"What do you mean, pro-life? Like what about animals that are alive? Are you vegan?"
"No."
"OK, war kills people, are you anti-war?"
"Depends on the war, but not necessarily"
"Anti-capital punishment?"
"Nope."
"Do you want to terraform Mars to spread life further than Earth?"
"What? No."
"Well then what the hell do you mean?"
"I don't think women should be legally allowed to procure an abortion!"
"Well gee, that's oddly case-specific. It would seem to me that 'anti-abortion' describes that opinion better."
"But the 'anti' sounds so negative!!!1!"
That’s exactly what it is, a politically correct way of saying pro-abortion without using the word “abortion”
I love how kristen used the correct pronoun
Same. I was waiting for her to step back to the microphone to yell that she was a he
F pronouns.
@@mamabel5986 me too lol
how can you tell?
@@rodiusmaximus the voice sounds like a woman on testosterone, and the mannerisms are not masculine at all. But the biggest tell is the face looks female despite the disguise
I could listen to Kristan debate for hours. Just love what she stands for and how she fights the good fight. God bless her.
I couldn’t. I hate the people who bother her. If it was just her talking, I could.
She just sucks though, all her arguments are utter drivel.
You could listen to Kristan for hours and she still wouldn't have made a good argument. She literally doesn't know what she is talking about
I think in any argument it says enough when someone is sitting on the fence rather than fully siding with their own point
It’s not a hard concept. They just know they can’t defend it. It’s the only one they insist is pro / pro instead of pro / anti.
Exactly! Going back and forth with these people is exhausting.
Did you know in Jewish law it's required for a woman to get an abortion if her life is in danger? I'm sure lots of people don't know that. So banning abortion infringes on religious rights.
Did you know, that it's considered Murder?
Murder is going against the Ten Commandments in the Bible.
So what makes Abortion the exception?
@@Jesusgurl777 What makes the Death Penalty the exception? That’s also murder
@@tylerj7298 Where in the Bible does it quote this? Or which internet source did you get that from. Please share it! I would like to have it for reference please!
I soooo admire your ability to stay calm in the face of absurdity. You do an awesome job. THANKS.
She is brave. In another video you see her getting attacked and she stays calm and rational.
@@Visual_Writer she's a hero.just imagine any of the snowflakes living through any of that. They meltdown over pronouns.
That's ALWAYS the difference between us and them.
They're irrational, while we are perfectly sane!
That's how you know that they're not right in the head!
She also stayed calm through millions of abortions…..
She didnt a lift a finger to help the fetuses….
Oh yeah, that’s awesome too!….
@@hexl702too5 she's doing alot now, what are you doing besides whining ? Are you saving any babies?
This gal is beast. Thank you so much for standing up for the unborn
She should debate Steven Bonnell
A hambeast
She is appalling
Choosing the words they are using plays a big part in a person's conscience as far as right or wrong doing. We all have to make "choices "The words Reproductive health care. What in those words has anything to do with abortion??To Reproduce is to create or to make another life. Abortion is the opposite. Words matter
"Words matter". Indeed they do. So what does it say about the pro life side when taking away the option of abortion forces women to give birth against their will but the pro life side isn't up front and honest about it?
@@albaraka7319 Kristin said she introduces herself as anti-legal abortion. Pro-life is the generic term given to those against abortion. We’re pretty upfront that we don’t believe women should kill the little human in their womb.
@@anastasia-fr1gn And are you trying to accomplish that by forcing women to give birth against their will?
@@albaraka7319 How are you actually still arguing with people here, over facts as mind - numbingly fundamental as "F = ma"...or "water is wet?" What is your purpose, here?
You're just wrong. Period. Magnificently, _hysterically_ - so. The end. Take the L. Get over it. Invest in the eduction you've somehow managed to delude yourself into believing you've already obtained...but _whatever_ you do, remember to never -- *EVER* -- share your thoughts in a public forum, for _any_ reason, ever again. Doing so is really only a good look when you're intelligent. You're welcome.
@@83btm "What is your purpose, here?". To see why people are so supportive of forcing women to give birth against their will.
"You're just wrong. Period. Magnificently, hysterically - so. The end." Then why can't you provide evidence proving I'm wrong? "Take the L. Get over it." Anyone who claims someone else is wrong but can't explain and demonstrate how and why they are wrong are just projecting their own failure. That's why it's called an empty assertion. "Invest in the eduction you've somehow managed to delude yourself into believing you've already obtained...but whatever you do, remember to never -- EVER -- share your thoughts in a public forum, for any reason, ever again." Or what boy? What will you do about it? Make more empty assertions because you can't do better which ironically shows who really lacks an education? "Doing so is really only a good look when you're intelligent." I agree. So why did you speak when you are not intelligent? "You're welcome." Couldn't have put it better myself.
If someone is actually "Pro-Choice" they would empower women & organizations that provide help in women in crisis. Why is the choice abortion? Shouldn't the choice be at the beginning? Choosing whom to date? Choosing monogamy? Choosing abstinence? There are so many choices before having sex.
Good point. If they're pro-choice, why are they against those who are against abortion? Isn't it my choice?
Amen! You hit the nail on the head. You have the choice to have sex or not have sex. If you don’t want to get pregnant, then don’t have sex.
See, it's a simple as this!
They know there are ways to prevent it!
They just don't care.
They use abortion as an excuse, to say they're not ready to be parents?
Hmm. Should've thought of that before you opened your legs.
They do this because they don't want the responsibility or accountability.
If they feel they're responsible enough to have sex, they're responsible enough to be a parent!
And they get SO shocked when they find out they're pregnant!
Like, you had sex, what did you think was gonna happen?
This is EXACTLY why you wait to have sex AFTER you get married.
Then there's no heartbreak, because you don't wind up alone and pregnant!
@@smbarone2000 Because by being against abortion you are literally taking the position of wanting to take a woman's choice away. If women has a choice they can either choose to remain pregnant and give birth or they can choose to get an abortion.
By being against abortion you don't want women to have a choice and instead want them to be forced to remain pregnant regardless of whether the woman wants to or not. That is literally anti choice.
@@MatthewBentz- No one is taking the woman's choice away-she has the absolute choice what to do with her body before possibly getting pregnant (abstinence). The issue comes down to hedonism and wanting to live without consequences.
They call themselves pro choice to minimize their immoral actions and deflect responsibility all out of selfishness.
Exactlyyyyy. Theyre using pro choice as a euphemism for pro abortion
Anything to justify murder .
@@bogartmotomoto8222How is pro-life not equally a euphemism?
@@CL-fs3kt
Because we want to protect ALL life and show love to BOTH the woman AND the baby.
@@autumnemerald1019 Exactly. A euphemism for “we want all pregnant to carry the pregnancy to term.” Still a euphemism.
“You think it’s black and white?”
Yup there’s no room for gray area in this matter.
You can't half abort someone.
@@Bones12x2 I would consider that still abortion
I agree….
That’s right, you can’t compromise on abortion….
either a woman can get one or she can’t…..
It should be the woman’s decision whether she keeps her uterus occupied….
mind your own business….
Amen
Pro choice for which person ? Mother or baby ? They have cognitive dissonance about this ..
Usually the response is for mother--oops sorry,birthing "person" and not the "clump of cells" unbeknownst to them ,their entire make up is from a cumps of cells 🤷🏻♂️
@@Procyon-j7e it gets crazier .. women's rights against trans lol
@@jojackson1573 wouldn't want to upset the non birthing people
Not really, they’re just really stupid.
@@Procyon-j7e 😂
“Doing what they want with their body” is such a walk around answer
Of course it is. It's the only debate tool a leftist has. Throw out a platitude and run away before being forced to back it up with logic.
i always find it strange when people say they’re pro choice and not pro abortion, cause they’re fighting for abortion to be fully legal for any reason
No because Anti abortion means your ideal is zero abortions.
Pro choice ideal isn't 100% abortions.
Lmao love how Kristan calls it how it is! Tired of people sugarcoating things and walking on eggshells and being deceitful for the sake of others.
Woke people always sugar coat and can't handle the truth
So if Kristen isn’t sugarcoating….
If abortion is murder, does she think women should get the death penalty or life in prison?….
that’s what you get when you murder a REAL person…..
Hello, hello?….
Is this thing on (tap tap)…..
It’s been two months….
were you able to think of an answer….
is abortion murder, and should women get the death penalty or life in prison?
@@hexl702too5 Easy, the women should be “Aborted” like thier babies 😂
I'm tired of sugar coating things too. American Christian values are absolute excrement.
She has infinite patience. I couldn't talk to these fools for more than a minute or two.
Good, don't talk to them. STFU
What makes it even more ridiculous is the disconnect of not seeing just how ridiculous they sound!
They know it's wrong, that's why they avoid the true definition of their movement.
They don't want to be called murderers.
Trying to tell other people what they know is the mark of an ignorant person.
@@Procyon-j7e Abortion isn't murder. And taking away the option of abortion forces women to give birth against their will. Are you honest about that aspect of no abortion stance?
@@albaraka7319 There's a living human being inside a person that's dependent on said person ,you remove the "clump of cells" against it's will ,it's murder 🤷🏻♂️
The one grey area for me is if the child is gonna be severely mentally ill and/or wheelchair bound, at that point it isn't "living".
I'm pro-choice because while I believe abortion is wrong and wouldn't do it myself; I don't believe in forcing my opinion on others.
There are definitely people who are pro-abortion though. They exist and they just use the word pro-choice because that is the popular term. Just like some people use the words "pro-life" and but then support the death penalty or will allow abortions in certain circumstances like rape, incest or underage pregnancy. 🤔
Nice work. Force them to face that mirror.
Excellent 👍🏽👏🏽 No anger just Truth, and evil can’t take it. Thank you #GodFirst 😌🙏🏽🌟🕊
What truth ?
I’m so proud of you Mrs. Christen for speaking up for those who can’t the unborn children who are getting mitigated left and right.
Kristan is appalling
We are all "pro choice", but that "choice" is made at conception.
Intercourse is for creating life not taking it. Mic drop! 🎤 🤯
Or answering carnal needs.
I had a whole debate with a woman about this a few weeks ago . She was in favor of the term pro-choice instead of pro abortion but crazy part was that she claimed to be pro-life . Sorry ,I refuse to use the term pro-choice because the baby in the womb doesn't have a choice in the matter .
Well the embryo in the woman's body doesn't get a choice because the embryo isn't reproducing, the woman is.
Trust me.. the main problem is not even abortions, it's the normalization of sex before marriage/one night stands, especially in western culture. These issues would drop drastically in % if people stopped messing around, it's like people want to have fun so much they forget sex is mainly about reproducing lmao
Yup
What do you call religion in a land fill ?
A good start.
Exactly. The rise in abortions is corelated with sexual "liberation" (more acuratelly described as "degeneration") Promiscuity, casual sex and sex out of wedlock are the roots of the problem.
@@Ignisan_66 I regard your religion as degenerate
I'm not pro slavery. i just believe that every individual has the right to decide if they want to own a slave. I am pro-choice.
I'm surprise the person didn't respond with "Well, are you Pro-Birth?" Of course, Kristan could still defend her stance.
Kirsten is pro-COERCED-birth…..
she supports taking women’s human rights away from them…..
She is anti-individual liberty…..
That’s what she needs to admit, and I wish she would……
I think the term is forced birth.
I used to be pro choice now I have a kid. 360 I wish I could adopt them all and my daughter does too. She wants us to have a safe home for all kids. She is 8 and has more love in her heart that these people need.
I think you should probably stick to looking after her and leave other people's reproduction to them.
Those intent on first degree murder ALWAYS has a choice. When the ONLY one who has a choice is the would be killer, it's NOT pro-choice.
You have a problem with women deciding if they give birth or not?
@@albaraka7319 No, only those that choose to kill their living offspring.
How will you stop me though?
Abortion is not murder simply because there are no anti-abortion laws which would trigger murder charges.
Stop lying
@@denniswakabayashi9000 Slavery was legal, didn't make it right. Prove I'm lying silly bean.
Kristan is a rockstar! She tells it like it is
She talks total BS
Here is my problem, I asked my 7 year old child what he knew about pro-choice. His response was that choosing whether to raise his hand in school was a good thing, and choosing what he wanted to eat for breakfast was a good thing. I then explained abortion and asked his thoughts he said abortion was murder and murder was evil that people shouldn't choose that.
God forgive us.
Why is this a problem? Seems like he is able to understand right from wrong, something a lot of adults lack.
@@fl_snorkeldork The point is that a 7-year-old understands what an "educated" college student fails to understand. The student actually seems to understand the logic, only he doesn't agree with it because it contradicts his argument, which is why he reverts to his euphemism.
Oh wow, clarifying. I was saying my problem with calling abortion pro- choice. I'm anti-abortion and God willing, my kid will stay that way too.
Yikes, you told a 7 year old what abortion is…
He’s 7. He has no life experience. He also has no uterus so why are you asking him these questions?
"I'm not pro-murder, I just support the murderer's right to choose to murder"
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 No one's forcing women to get pregnant. Only trying to stop them from ending human life for the sake of convenience.
There's literally no point in the entire process where the government forces a woman to do anything. It's trying to prevent a murderous act, not force anything.
You may as well claim that by criminalizing murder, the government is forcing everyone to suffer living with each other against their will. I mean, sure, I guess you can twist things to view it that way, but your great alternative of 'just let them kill' has no moral or legal logic to back it up.
@Electricutie
Look up the fallacy of Presupposition.
@@Dhorpatan Look up the fallacy fallacy.
@@smexijebus Your response was impressively childish.🤮
@@Dhorpatan My response was tailored to match your own. Great self-assessment.
This lady is out here on the front lines.
When people say they’re pro choice I always say, ‘what are you choosing?” One answer is abortion. Make them say it .
Ok. I choose abortion.
Lol silly!…..
If you can’t even make somebody say the word abortion….
how do you make a woman give birth when she doesn’t want to?…..
@@hexl702too5 My comment went over your head. It’s not that a person can’t say the word abortion, it’s that you’re forcing them to say the opposite of the cover up phrase, “pro choice.”
@@Earthtime3978
Lol silly!…..
Pro-choicers favor THREE options for women……
Do you understand the word “three”?…..
Forced-birthers put words in our mouth and harp on the words THEY put there….
they think we favor abortion over any other choice and we “hope” she gets one…..
and if she chooses something else, we’re supposedly mad or something…..
If a woman chose abortion over the other options, then SHE was the one who was “pro-abortion”, not me…..
Why aren’t you judgmental to the woman who actually made the choice?…..
@@Earthtime3978
Hell…..
if this is what you think of people who just debate the issue…..
what you must think of a woman who actually aborted!…..
Did she commit murder?…..
Let’s talk about the language YOU guys use…..
Pro abortion just means
"I shouldnt be responsible for my actions"
Being exact with words is important.
They are so hesitant to say it because they KNOW it's a bad thing.
This
The key to ideology is language.
As a result, they blur the meaning of words and make language pointless.
"I don't think it matters"....then why are you there at the debate?!
I could listen to this woman all day.
You are such an awesome woman! May God bless you abundantly for speaking up and speaking out!
Let's say that there's a pregnant woman who goes to the hospital to do a pregnancy check up. Sadly when the doctor examines her with the ultrasound, found out theres no movement like heartbeat or even any form of activity of the clump of cells by saying "I'm sorry, but i don't see any activity anymore, i cant hear any heartbeat" to the parents to be. So what was that if its not a human that was developing in her womb, that absorb all the nutrients from the mother since they need it and absorb the oxygen that their mother breath in? This clump of cells is certainly part of HUMAN development. They are developing their own system in order to be fully formed of a human being. And these people still think they have the right to take their right to develop and growing. Have you seen a real footage when a baby is in the process of being aborted??? They do react by moving all their body parts and trying to push what's coming to them cause they feel the pain.
And just like the "borned" human beings as these pro-choice said, when the the doc found out that the clump of cells isnt alive anymore, they NEED to remove it from the woman body. Because it could actually rot inside and even can cause blood clots. So if its part of her body, then why do they need to get it out? Why the body cant just simply absorb it since its part of her body?
So I'm just saying that so far, i never saw any pro choice made a logical scientific reasoning (not even research lol) to prove what they believe in besides theyre just being arrogant since they just wanna do what they wanna do. No matter if it harms other human being or an early form of life or whatever.
Kristan is who she thinks she is. Brilliant good woman
A few years ago, an anti-abortion group wanted to have billboards with graphic photos of late term abortion procedure and results.
This visual of the procedure was quickly shot down as indecent and obscene and was disallowed and yet the procedure itself was promoted.
That says it all.
Exactly 💯 if you ain't doing anything wrong then you ain't got anything to hide.
Pro abortion or anti abortion
Pro Life or Pro Death 💯
You are very good at fallacious false dichotomy.
@@Dhorpatan It's not a false dichotomy. You are for death if you allow abortion to continue.
She makes such a good point. They know that it's killing a human.
choice is what you had before you made the conscious decision to get on with someone. when you get rid of the consequence of your choice, it is called something else.
Good job girl!! Keep doing what you do. We stand with you🤝🙏
A completely missed opportunity to make that point that, if she is uncomfortable with the term pro-abortion, it is because she realises that abortion is not a desirable thing, its ugly to confront the consequence of her belief. Pro-choice is a euphemism because it concentrates on the woman, and her right to choose. By calling it pro-abortion you are centring on the baby and a persons right to exterminate it if they feel like it.
Pro lifers support many choices. Just not killing. Exterminating the human you created is exactly what pro abortion is. Lol. You laid it all out yourself and still don't see it.
Ironic. When I had my abortion every adult in my life told me that I had “no choice.”
I’m so sorry you didn’t have any support
Wow, yep, I'm not surprised.
Especially when they lie to people!
You gotta wonder where the forcedbirthers were when you could’ve used their help…..
@@hexl702too5 They were busy fighting the likes of you who were stopping them from helping.
When someone tells me they're pro choice and not pro abortion, I ask them the same questions I get asked because I'm pro life. I ask what they're doing to help those who choose to have their baby? Are they volunteering at or financially supporting a pregnancy crisis center, adopting or fostering? It becomes very obvious when asked that most aren't not pro choice but pro abortion.
Lol silly!…..
Would you feel like a damn fool if you were wrong?….
Hexl is a pro-choice woman who has donated to maternity homes…..
There’s no contradiction between that and being pro-choice…..
I can believe that women should not be criminalized for abortion, AND that women need more tangible help than hot air and marshmallow pablum…..
Which is usually the only help forced-birthers offer…..
Don't forget that segregationists viewed themselves as "pro-choice"...especially with the segregation academies.
the truth is written in every people's heart, those who call themselves pro-choice simply don't want to hear the truth.
There was a sign a guy had at a wrestling show. It said pro-choice pro science pro wrestling. I asked how can you be pro-choice if your pro science. And oh my God the attacks I got. All I did was question the sign without even saying What side I'm on.
Blessings to you and your ministry
I hope she starts volunteering with single moms. Does she adopt? Work with fostercare kids?
@@sueryan8320 It doesn't matter whether she does or not. Abortion is still wrong. Intentionally causing a child's death will never make you the good guy.
She's right. So was George Carlin. "Soft language" is how the lunatics make lunacy normal.
These same people who claim to be about choice did not want you to have choices to wear a mask, get injected, or stay open for business.
I support abortion rights,and I oppose vaccine and mask mandates
@@jasonweinstock1282 I am glad to see you are opposed to vaccine mandates, we will have to disagree on abortion being a right since it is the antithesis to the right to life.
@@nomoreserfs everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion.
@@nomoreserfs if I opposed vaccine and mask mandates AND opposed abortion rights,I would feel like a hypocrite
@@jasonweinstock1282 Why? How can you protect liberty if you can't protect life? Abortion is an act of aggression against the most innocent that results in murder.
honestly, pro-choice in broad terms can be used in any scenario if by their definition, "to be able to do with my body" like women who go into sex industries are "pro-choice" because it's their body to do whatever, or when people get cosmetic surgery... it's their body to do what they want. if they really believe in pro- abortion and the ideas of it, why are you afraid of the label????
Where can I watch the full thing? I’ve tried to find her college tours but cannot find them anywhere.
If you go on her channel, under Kristan Hawkins, she has all her full college debates on there!
@@Jesusgurl777 thank you!!
Lol, it's always like that, those people can not define themself but always thinking their right.
If these people are not pro-abortion, then why are they even arguing with someone who is also not pro-abortion?😂
Exactly. They would be quiet and be for Kristan's choice to be anti-abortion.
Because she goes too far in the other direction, she is pro-coerced-birth…..
That should not be her prerogative…..
The woman decide if she stays pregnant……
@@hexl702too5 You can't coerce a woman into giving birth. Birth is the natural end result of being pregnant (unless something goes wrong). Abortion is the interruption of that process.
@@hexl702too5 To "end a pregnancy" is to kill a child. It should be treated like any other murder. The fact that the child gets no justice for that cruelty is a flaw in our system.
Where the pro choice movement really loses me is denying that the action of abortion terminates life. It isn't a tricky question about when life begins and a belief that isn't rooted in reality is catastrophic.
I'm Catholic and was raised by Catholics.
When I was about 16 years old and started spending more time with girls, my grandmother said something to me and it stuck. She said if I were to get a girl pregnant no abortion, and I would have to raise the kid.
That kept me on the straight and narrow. 🤔🙂
That’s basically how I taught my son too! It was common sense to me back then and also now. I also taught him about STDs.
I had that, and we saw an old 1950s Civil Defense film on how to deliver a baby in high school. Raw footage from the doctors perspective.
love you Kristan and what you do. this fool didn't want to admit he is for killing of babies. Maybe on some level he knows its murder.
he knows it is on every level but he won't admit it to himself because he knows how reprehensible it is
@@o0StarDawn0o already a subscriber. thank you
@@baldwelder8775 you basically paraphrased what I was thinking.
They know it's killing an unborn baby. They just refuse to acknowledge it, because they know the moment they do, their whole argument falls apart.
Here is what I think they should enforce on states that allow abortion:
Doctors who perform the abortion are not allowed to cut the baby in to pieces and vacuum it out but rather they are supposed to get it out of the womb as it is and give it to the parents to bury it.
This way they will see that they actually killed a living human being 😢
You prefer "partial birth abortion"
Where the fetus is aborted whole?
@@denniswakabayashi9000 I wouldn’t say prefer but rather if abortion is going to happen regardless, then parents need to see what they are really doing and it’s not just a medical procedure.
I can agree with that, but if they let them see the baby beforehand, we could prevent it!
It’s like yea you are pro abortion
You are voting to continue the legalization of abortion clinics
Exactly. You are for it if you want it to continue.
@@KingStr0ng
So what do you call it when forced-birthers sit on their ass while abortions take place?…..
They always claimed to love babies….
but you sure couldn’t tell that by the abortion statistics….
63,000,000 in 50 years…..
I wonder what conservatives would do about abortion if they thought it was immoral….
🤔
It's not pro-choice unless they're out there supporting women who want to have children. Most are not.
Seems we’ve found our next single question that dismantles an entire lie. What is a woman? And now, Are you pro abortion?
Thank you for all the work you do. God bless and take care.
Both irrelevant, and easily dismissed and I suggest not repeating them in public because you'll get laughed out of the room.
Using an unwilling body is wrong, regardless of gender.
Some of the women of Texas suing their own state were prolife, and still required abortion healthcare so the term pro abortion denies them their reailty. They are Prolife, yet still needing abortion healthcare. You're not rational. Seek help.
@@freedomishavingachoice3020 An innocent child is not “using” someone. They’re not doing anything wrong and do not deserve punishment.
Someday we will have artificial wombs as well-it’s literally in the works as we speak.
Will you still advocate for killing innocent people when we have artificial wombs?
@@freedomishavingachoice3020 The pro life movement is about saving lives. Both the mother and the child. To do everything possible to save both.
@@narnia1233 I never said the fetus was guilty of anything. Please do not lie about my words. I said none of us are legally allowed an unwilling body for anything. Do not change my words. It's rude.
@@freedomishavingachoice3020 That’s literally a contradiction what you just said. If the child is not guilty of doing anything wrong then your point of them using someone’s body illegally is wrong.
And I’ve explained to you over and over that even if we accept your premise that using someone’s body is illegal and that a child was doing an illegal action-that STILL doesn’t give you the right to kill them.
This lady really rocks it.
She rocks it like humans thought Alex Jones rocked it.
The moment you acheived that oh so glorious "GOTCHA" you can see his brain crack...first spider legs then into a gazillion pieces!!!
itwas priceless!
Thank you and keep it up!!
Claiming to be pro-choice but not pro-abortion...is like saying you are pro-the decision to be able to drink and drive, but being against drunk driving. It isn't a logical stance.
Reproduction has nothing to do with abortion; they are opposites. The right to reproduce is the opposite of the right to murder.
"Im pro having the right to choose between abortion and birth"
"Sooo you're pro abortion"
"No! im pro choice"
Like what 😂
Agreed! If I can admit I’m anti abortion then you can admit you’re pro abortion
So according to this person, pro-choice is about doing what you want with your body... Which involves removing a developing baby from your womb... Which is literally what an abortion is... Which means he's pro-abortion...
So... pro-choice is pro-abortion...
This person really didn't think about this argument, did they? :P
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Man I love this organization, God bless them.
Logic leaves the room for “whatever they want” and we just have to agree with them? Hard pass
i love how she slays these pro-abortion folks so easily and effortlessly.
She’s not so hot….
There’s still about 2200 abortions a day….
It’s still legal and available to 70% of the American people…..
She talks constant crap
I don’t like the fact of mothers killing their children, but I hate the fact that the law defines abortion, OF ANYTHING in the “woman” being removed. Including cancer and tumors
"I'm not pro-violence, I just believe that people should be able to commit violence against each other" 😂. Just say it, person of unknown gender!
Exactly. Watching her/its level of dishonesty made me sick.
finally, i like a full clip of her explanation and stance. then you can understand where someone is coming from.
The first time I seriously tried to get into this topic, I saw "anti-abortion" and "pro-choice". It took like two seconds of further searching to see they were just pro-abortion, because as you can see here, the "pro-choice" do not like the idea of anything other than abortion. Even PlannedParenthood, despite the name, is an abortion clinic. They intentionally use confusing language to mask their real agenda, they even treat people like they're stupid. All it takes is to talk about it and ask questions to know the real answers.
I prefer to use the terms "pro life" and "pro death".
The pro death people don't seem to care for it much 🤷♂️
Both sides can be for women's rights and body autonomy. The difference is a specific claim to a horrendous act being claimed as a right.
Horrendous is forcing a pregnant woman to carry a pregnancy to term and give birth against her will!
@@jasonweinstock1282 That is what is natural. No forcing is involved. The force is used to kill innocent unborn lives.
@@chrisazure1624 so,you think that,just because a woman has sex,that she should expect to get pregnant and pay the consequences? I sure as hell don't think so! What women do with their bodies, and how people live their sex lives is their business! Just because a woman consents to sex does not mean she has to consent to carrying a pregnancy to term,if she were to find out she is pregnant!
@@jasonweinstock1282 I don't expect anything but to be responsible and not kill a human life because it not convenient.
@@chrisazure1624 would you accept or allow abortion in cases of rape or incest? I believe people should be proactive and responsible when it comes to contraception.but, contraception can fail,and you can't penalize someone for at least trying! That's one reason why I think abortion should be available as an option,should contraception fail
Pro-choicer: You're anti-choice!
Pro-lifer: If I'm anti-abortion, you're pro-abortion.
Pro-choicer: I'M NOT PRO-ABORTION! But you're anti-abortion and I'm not!
Yep, they’re so hypocritical
Strange how they suddenly have cold feet when confronted straight to their faces
Pro birth is also included in pro choice
"i don't think it matters" it really does
Pro-Abortionists: "We're pro-choice! Women have the right to choose!"
Woman: "I choose life."
2nd Woman: "I choose protection."
3rd: Woman: "I choose saving myself for marriage."
Pro-Abortionists: "No! Not like that!"
We need to support this woman and what she is doing. No one wants to do the work she is doing.
I am so sick of people saying a woman has a right to do what they want with their body when they are talking about an unborn baby. An unborn child is a separate human life with its own DNA, brain, heart and lungs.