If you have any doubts on this bout being unwinnable, look up Necroscope86's LP of Breath of Fire 3. He cheats to buff up Ryu enough that he can't be taken down, and deals ridiculous amounts of damage, and STILL Garr does not fall. You can NOT win this match. This is a scripted battle where you HAVE to lose to progress, much like Tiga's fight in BoF2.
Fighting Tiga in BoF2 is optional. You don’t NEED to fight him. He asks if you and Katt are just friends and you’re okay with him marrying her. Answer yes to both of his questions and he won’t fight you.
Man, I remember trying to win this battle for so long. I kept resetting thinking there was an alternate story path. This was of course before I had internet and could easily go online to find everything about a game.
No. Balio and Sunder (1st time) can simply NOT be won. Please dont say it is, its not. It's been tested and attempted time and time again (by myself with legit-level 32 characters, leaving the psx on overnight, dealing an estimated 1.8MILLION damage in the meantime.
Actually they do notice. 7 years later as an adult in Dauna Mines there's a random person you talk to that says 'now that you mention it, the last time he saw a dragon was at the Contest of Champions in the Arena'. or something of that nature.
Garr actually comments in the midst of battle about settling this in one strike before launching a barrage of Lucky Strikes. Eventually, even if you manage to take them all without falling, he'll wipe you out with an insta-kill strike.
...how else do you think I managed to survive overnight? influence on balio, and sunder attacks him nonstop. After either 57 or 167 casts of lightning, Balio's AP runs out (and yeah I counted them but I dont recall which number it was >.>; ). Even so neither of them dies. They are programmed to have (capped) -1HP. In short, they will never reach 0hp and die, nor will healing them/hitting them kill them. The guide claiming they can die used the wrong pictures (many times).
Love this game. This fight is so fucking good , i wished so hard that there was a tournament where you can fight for money & pride over and over. :-( But anyway , this game is godlike !
Yeah CAPCOM loves to do cameos. I think Breath of Fire 2 had it where you could see a person litterally turn into chun-li for a second then change back as well.
Garr has infinite HP, so it’s impossible to defeat him. If the fight drags on too long, his attack will greatly increase, meaning it won’t be long until he KOs you.
don't lie. You didn't do it. There have been people who used a gameshark to have lv99 rei/teepo/ryu, and left their psx on for an entire WEEKEND. After 3 days, they STILL didnt kill Balio, Sunder, or later Garr. They can't be won, period.
As awesome as this moment in the game was, it makes me appreciate games like disgaea, for having the "unwinnable" fights still obay the game's rules, with alternate outcomes if you actually manage to win.
I didn't transform on this since I didn't rest before fight. Already played through when it first released after all. I started with Protect, he smacks around 20, healing herb - he takes 73 damage, vitamin, 70 damage, vitamin, 15 damage, herb, sooner or later "Lets Finish This" - 641 damage interface. :)
I was somewhere around lvl 30 or above :s But I still put a good fight xD. When Garr started to do those damaging blows and when i was out of healing items, i transformed into a dragon (with the same result as always xD). Too bad, but this unbeatable fights has also there fun into it :) You just gotta enjoy it and give it your best, no matter what lvl you are, even if you know the result already xD
I have a question I have this game why is both of them scared of garr but they don't fear ryu I do love the game my all-time favorites Next Breath of Fire 4 I beat the game and I'm trying something new now I got both icons which they tell me to get never got that before I always get one never could get the other I got 6 Ivory charms that is sweet plus one more thing my first time ever trying to beat the game and get every single enemy I got all enemies so far and I beat 3 of the hardest enemies goo king berserkr and archermage it is hard to get the goo king sword I did it once along time ago and I'll never get tired of that game plus I like challenging myself
When me and my sis first got to this fight as kids, the bosses before this seemed so difficult, got to Garr and we’re like “great, he’s probs gonna be such a **** to beat”. Hits you for 10hp-20+ sometimes, ok maybe have a chance... Garr: “Let’s finish this! (Normal none crit strike 200-300hp+) ok now we are human again, maybe we can have a chance (Crits 900-1000+) Turned the game off thinking we are under levelled, this repeated a few times before you get to the point you don’t reset the game because you are sort of too pissed, ahhh it’s one of them fights... :D
Such a good scene. I was totally baffled when he asked for THAT as his prize. Then I got him in the party and he was...well, alright I guess. Haha. Still, this game was awesome.
Garr was great if used right, same as any character really. I once used him as my damage dealer one playthrough and using super combo with a focus/Might back up I one shotted the elder...
mxthorne I haven't got a video. But it definitely happened. I went power formation and put Garr on point, spent about 4 turns casting Might with Momo and Shield with Ryu then had Garr use an Hourglass, after that he focused twice and on the 3rd turn I hit him with a 9 button Super Combo and took off over 3000hp. Ryu got a reprisal in there before hand but Elder only has 3000hp anyway so he would've still died in one hit. My jaw dropped.
i didn't survive the first attack of Garr, he immediatly did a lucky strike og 106 (besides, i had only 1 hp :p) but indeed as you say, after a good 6 turns Garr indeed does the "let's finish this" and hits you for over 800 hp. :)
Oh i see Thank youxD but i meant where you found the game on the net if i could please get a link>< Thanks and sorry for bothering and again your vid is awesomexD
The battle against Balio and Sunder [When you are trying to stop them from kidnapping Nina] actually can be won. But it's not really a win, considering Nina runs away and Balio and Sunder just leave trying to find her. Once that happens, Ryu passes out and next thing you know, Nina thanks you. XDD I sat there for a few hours hammering through that part, determined to win. Didn't happen, the way I wanted it to.
I did that and I beat them a long time ago because I did this where I had Nina Escape and then they said something and then they ran away best thing to do is use the skill that u can bait a enemie to make them attack someone like the were tiger it worked for me
I had a gameshark and i gave myself access to all the dragon sphere things and had maxed out my healing items. I ate all his attacks but no matter how much dmg you do, you cant win.
well then I guess your game is broken indeed. Its impossible to win that fight. Not impossibly-difficult, no, just impossible. You're not supposed to win that fight, and there is no programming done in case you DO win the fight.
once he gets serious, you know its over best battle in gaming history.... 1 of the best i might still have that cheating cd, but when using it to give ryu max equipment and lvl 100, i still couldnt stay that long with garr, same with balio and sunder they are unbeatable, gamefaqs has info about a person who hacked through the game, seeing what holded their defeat back, i think it was the fact they were not true enemies, so couldnt be defeated ps. if anyone knows the rumors we had back then, when supercheats was a rumor site more than cheat or info site..... is there a character named Jarno in a game? rumor says: defeat balio and sunder (1st battle) and instead of getting nina, you kill off nina, and get Jarno..... is that a made-up name, then name of the rumor's creator, or an actual gaming character? still pretty cool, 2 strong enemies being afraid of 1 guy, and he's gonna join you :O .... plus he kicks your butt easily, when serious
Hey Chun-Li and Sakura! You are watching the wrong Ryu! LOL
***** Sakura debuted on SF Alpha 2, year prior to BOF III. Look carefully and you will see her in the audience.
***** When the camera pans over after the announcer introduces Garr... you can see Sakura on the left side of the screen.
+Dewani90 2:06
@Dewani90 u blind
If you have any doubts on this bout being unwinnable, look up Necroscope86's LP of Breath of Fire 3. He cheats to buff up Ryu enough that he can't be taken down, and deals ridiculous amounts of damage, and STILL Garr does not fall. You can NOT win this match. This is a scripted battle where you HAVE to lose to progress, much like Tiga's fight in BoF2.
Fighting Tiga in BoF2 is optional. You don’t NEED to fight him. He asks if you and Katt are just friends and you’re okay with him marrying her. Answer yes to both of his questions and he won’t fight you.
I'd love to see this fight in a remake or remaster.
1:42 Chun-Li 2:04 Sakura
Man hearing this music, and hearing Garr's gambit/critical strikes is just awesome :p
To bad he doesn't always sound like that when he attacks.
Once i forgot to remove "Soul Gem" from Ryu before fight with Garr, what a waste.
Man, I remember trying to win this battle for so long. I kept resetting thinking there was an alternate story path. This was of course before I had internet and could easily go online to find everything about a game.
The no internet days were better imo, so much curiosity and trying and gossip
New York! I always thought it sounded like that.
No. Balio and Sunder (1st time) can simply NOT be won. Please dont say it is, its not. It's been tested and attempted time and time again (by myself with legit-level 32 characters, leaving the psx on overnight, dealing an estimated 1.8MILLION damage in the meantime.
michelrpg jajajajajajjajajajajaja
you can see chun-li when the camera pans over to show Ryu coming out, she's standing in the middle of the crowd motionless like Sakura is standing.
Actually they do notice. 7 years later as an adult in Dauna Mines there's a random person you talk to that says 'now that you mention it, the last time he saw a dragon was at the Contest of Champions in the Arena'. or something of that nature.
This moment. This. F@#$ING moment. The greatest. Even after the fight is great.
Garr actually comments in the midst of battle about settling this in one strike before launching a barrage of Lucky Strikes. Eventually, even if you manage to take them all without falling, he'll wipe you out with an insta-kill strike.
...how else do you think I managed to survive overnight? influence on balio, and sunder attacks him nonstop. After either 57 or 167 casts of lightning, Balio's AP runs out (and yeah I counted them but I dont recall which number it was >.>; ).
Even so neither of them dies. They are programmed to have (capped) -1HP. In short, they will never reach 0hp and die, nor will healing them/hitting them kill them. The guide claiming they can die used the wrong pictures (many times).
omfg... i've played this game for over ten years and i never noticed that. my mind has been blown.
Love this game.
This fight is so fucking good , i wished so hard that there was a tournament where you can fight for money & pride over and over. :-(
But anyway , this game is godlike !
Yeah CAPCOM loves to do cameos. I think Breath of Fire 2 had it where you could see a person litterally turn into chun-li for a second then change back as well.
Garr has infinite HP, so it’s impossible to defeat him. If the fight drags on too long, his attack will greatly increase, meaning it won’t be long until he KOs you.
don't lie. You didn't do it. There have been people who used a gameshark to have lv99 rei/teepo/ryu, and left their psx on for an entire WEEKEND. After 3 days, they STILL didnt kill Balio, Sunder, or later Garr. They can't be won, period.
how come garr aint that strong when he joins your team later on
As awesome as this moment in the game was, it makes me appreciate games like disgaea, for having the "unwinnable" fights still obay the game's rules, with alternate outcomes if you actually manage to win.
Awesome video! never played BoF3 but played all others>< i wonder what kind of PS1 emulator you used and where you found BoF3=o
I didn't transform on this since I didn't rest before fight. Already played through when it first released after all. I started with Protect, he smacks around 20, healing herb - he takes 73 damage, vitamin, 70 damage, vitamin, 15 damage, herb, sooner or later "Lets Finish This" - 641 damage interface. :)
Its an easter egg, like what capcom usually does. Also, its like what DAJ01 said both were expecting the ryu that they know, but isn't.
so the entire audience doesnt notice a giant dragon fighting?
I was somewhere around lvl 30 or above :s
But I still put a good fight xD. When Garr started to do those damaging blows and when i was out of healing items, i transformed into a dragon (with the same result as always xD). Too bad, but this unbeatable fights has also there fun into it :) You just gotta enjoy it and give it your best, no matter what lvl you are, even if you know the result already xD
I didn't find it on the net.
I played it on my computer using the original CD.
Protecto!
I have a question I have this game why is both of them scared of garr but they don't fear ryu I do love the game my all-time favorites Next Breath of Fire 4 I beat the game and I'm trying something new now I got both icons which they tell me to get never got that before I always get one never could get the other I got 6 Ivory charms that is sweet plus one more thing my first time ever trying to beat the game and get every single enemy I got all enemies so far and I beat 3 of the hardest enemies goo king berserkr and archermage it is hard to get the goo king sword I did it once along time ago and I'll never get tired of that game plus I like challenging myself
Man someone needs to still be making 2D rpgs like this for console...I'm sure theres still a market for it
This guy is a fighting man alright
Legend has it, if you beat him, nina gives you a kiss. So lewd
Sweet dragon! And D'AIM, what an ass Garr was with those finishers!
When me and my sis first got to this fight as kids, the bosses before this seemed so difficult, got to Garr and we’re like “great, he’s probs gonna be such a **** to beat”. Hits you for 10hp-20+ sometimes, ok maybe have a chance...
Garr: “Let’s finish this! (Normal none crit strike 200-300hp+) ok now we are human again, maybe we can have a chance (Crits 900-1000+)
Turned the game off thinking we are under levelled, this repeated a few times before you get to the point you don’t reset the game because you are sort of too pissed, ahhh it’s one of them fights... :D
Pause at 2:08. You can't miss her.
Such a good scene. I was totally baffled when he asked for THAT as his prize. Then I got him in the party and he was...well, alright I guess. Haha. Still, this game was awesome.
Garr was great if used right, same as any character really. I once used him as my damage dealer one playthrough and using super combo with a focus/Might back up I one shotted the elder...
Video or it didn't happen.
mxthorne I haven't got a video. But it definitely happened.
I went power formation and put Garr on point, spent about 4 turns casting Might with Momo and Shield with Ryu then had Garr use an Hourglass, after that he focused twice and on the 3rd turn I hit him with a 9 button Super Combo and took off over 3000hp. Ryu got a reprisal in there before hand but Elder only has 3000hp anyway so he would've still died in one hit. My jaw dropped.
Let's finish this!
i didn't survive the first attack of Garr, he immediatly did a lucky strike og 106 (besides, i had only 1 hp :p) but indeed as you say, after a good 6 turns Garr indeed does the "let's finish this" and hits you for over 800 hp. :)
Is that Sakura in the crowd?
Oh i see Thank youxD but i meant where you found the game on the net if i could please get a link>< Thanks and sorry for bothering and again your vid is awesomexD
The battle against Balio and Sunder [When you are trying to stop them from kidnapping Nina] actually can be won. But it's not really a win, considering Nina runs away and Balio and Sunder just leave trying to find her. Once that happens, Ryu passes out and next thing you know, Nina thanks you. XDD
I sat there for a few hours hammering through that part, determined to win.
Didn't happen, the way I wanted it to.
I did that and I beat them a long time ago because I did this where I had Nina Escape and then they said something and then they ran away best thing to do is use the skill that u can bait a enemie to make them attack someone like the were tiger it worked for me
I'm always going to like the game I have Breath of Fire 4 also
FINISH HIM Mortal Combat style!!!
Yah Garr is a badass and Bulio & Sunder are funny yet annoying bullies who never leave you alone!
Shin megani tensei moment
my brother was playing and he stole from garr using steal, he stole scale mail
I had a gameshark and i gave myself access to all the dragon sphere things and had maxed out my healing items. I ate all his attacks but no matter how much dmg you do, you cant win.
Garr hp is approximately 65000 or even infinite
the name of the song in the battle :>
My first PSX game...ahh bring back memories....hehe and i remember i was makeing highes possible lvl to that tournament xD 35 lvl ryu rocks there:P
well then I guess your game is broken indeed. Its impossible to win that fight. Not impossibly-difficult, no, just impossible. You're not supposed to win that fight, and there is no programming done in case you DO win the fight.
I used ePSXe.
And i found BoF3 by buying it from the shop when it was first released. =P
All is finished at 5:20...
Balio and Sunder are funny xD
You can beat Garr later in the story but not in this fight
No you can't beat him.
He has unlimited HP in this fight.
Sakura?
You watch too mutch naruto or it's gotten into your mind
Lol Woodtza said interface
i can't see chun-li
But Sakura I see
once he gets serious, you know its over
best battle in gaming history.... 1 of the best
i might still have that cheating cd, but when using it to give ryu max equipment and lvl 100, i still couldnt stay that long with garr, same with balio and sunder
they are unbeatable, gamefaqs has info about a person who hacked through the game, seeing what holded their defeat back, i think it was the fact they were not true enemies, so couldnt be defeated
ps. if anyone knows the rumors we had back then, when supercheats was a rumor site more than cheat or info site..... is there a character named Jarno in a game?
rumor says: defeat balio and sunder (1st battle) and instead of getting nina, you kill off nina, and get Jarno..... is that a made-up name, then name of the rumor's creator, or an actual gaming character?
still pretty cool, 2 strong enemies being afraid of 1 guy, and he's gonna join you :O
.... plus he kicks your butt easily, when serious
actually he doesn't cheat
3:26
more like using hacks or coding. In the psx game its simply not possible.
its winnable i've tried and done it-.-
Hahaha...whatever you do with Garr...you'll never win!He has infinite HP ya know...But i think you already know that anyway.
Гарра я так понял невозможно победить а этой битве, а так игра прикольная. Играл в нее в детстве и сейчас решил перепройти
i won this shit by just spamming guard
nope. garr CAN be deafeated. i heard if u defeat it, u will get 6k - 8k exp.. i cant remember.. i saw it on somewhere on the net.
Oh...awwh ok=( But Thanks Anyway=P