Kendall Rae hey Kendall, my name’s Lore and I’m from Chicago and have such a corrupt, unsolved murder case of my half sister’s Mom, and I would love to be able to share this story with you, for you to tell it.
My name is David Garman and I am Mike's nephew who lived with him and his daughters. I have been on the sidelines listening to this podcast and ithers. I am not sitting on the sidelines and being quiet anymore. First Mike had contacted me at the behest of my step father Lyle Garman. Mike and Lyle were concocting a wrongful death lawsuit to sue a hospital and a few doctors over my mother's sudden death. When Mike called me that he was having a hard time trying to take care of Alissa and Sarah and asked me if I could stay with him to help him with his daughters because of his health issues. I did not ask him if I could move in with him, I already had a place. I was not homeless or destitute as he has claimed over the years. He also said he needed financial help as well so I believed his stories and thought I could help him. It wasn't until a few years later that I realized his true intention was to get me involved with this lawsuit and to convince my late brother as well because these idiots had an attorney file a class action lawsuit. Back then I was drinking alcohol, heavily. I was self medicating because I am a combat veteran and my mother had just died. One night I came home and found a VHS tape that clearly had Alissa and I believe one of her friends posing nude. As soon as I saw that I called a friend to come pick me up immediately and I left hastily. The next day I called my mom's mother and sister to tell them what I found at Mike's house. When I spoke to them they were not to terribly shocked because they were suspicious of Mike having an inappropriate relationship with Alissa. I wish that I had called CPS and reported this. But I didn't. I live with this every day because I was a coward. Mike didn't kick me out he didn't take me in because I was destitute. When I was approached by the Phoenix PD via a flyer about Alissa in 2008 I decided that I needed to do the right thing and come forward with what I knew. And I still will. I loved Mike Turney. He was more of a father to me than my real and step father. I truly wanted to aspire to be like him. I don't want any attention and I do not seek attention. This isn't about me. This is about a 17 year old girl whose life was snuffed out because her step father didn't want anyone to know of his dirty secret. Mike Turney killed her. And that truth will come out. My heart goes out to Sarah and her brothers and the hell that they have and still do endure.
@Alexis Sikes ♡ his comment literally was just made 3 wks ago. This video was posted 5 months ago. Logically, I think thats the ONLY reason for the lower amount of likes...Id assume from this point on that anyone who stumbles upon this comment will most likely continue to raise its likes, thats just my opinion on it tho 🙄 lol
Wow. Sorry you gotta live with that, man. That is disheartening. But you did come forward. That's what matters. We all have things we wish we could do different. On another note, Kendall usually doesn't catch the comments unless it's within the first few hours of the upload. Has someone notified her on Twitter or Insta about this comment? Not sure what they can do with it but seems like something she might want to see if she hasn't.
Alissa talked to her teacher about the sexual abuse by her step-father? Aren't teachers bound by law to contact authorities when a student comes to them about any kind of abuse at home?
Maybe they did? I mean how else would they know she told the teacher unless the teacher told someone? They could've reported it and nothing was done, that happens all the time
He went to her work “just to LOOK at her” and then he quickly changes his word choice to “just to see if she was there.” Very telling. IMO, he was obsessed with her and perving on her.
Her sister did another video like this with youtuber Stephanie Harlowe and in that video they actually showed footage that her dad recorded through the windows of Alissa's workplace (a fast food restaurant). It was really creepy and perverted feeling.
@@vonniemacintosh3330 i believe he still hasn’t gone to trial. i think covid delayed it. i could only find one article saying that his trial would be sometime in 2021 but nothing else
I don't know if it's different with stepchildren but to be fair I call my biological father daddy, and my mother mummy. it isn't always sexual (although i very much believe mike was a predator
So, this girl told her boyfriend, friends and a teacher that her step dad was sexually abusing her. And none of them reported it. Not even the teacher?
To be fair, it’s possible Alyssa begged her friends and boyfriend to not say anything. I mean, she said she was scared he’d kill her. I can only imagine what would happen if they did a wellness check because her friends or boyfriend reported and what would’ve happened after that wellness check. That being said, her teacher DEFINITELY should’ve done something. That’s a grown adult who had an obligation to report something.
I can’t believe people would complain about you talking about Thorn and trying to raise money for a great cause. It’s just mind blowing how selfish people are now.
This is my first time hearing about this case but I’m definitely more into it and this was my thought exactly!! I feel like he’s for sure the one who was SO obsessed with her and I didn’t like how much he was into her life like that.... people can see him as the “overprotective parent” but that was BEYOND that! He was literally trying to make sure, at every point that he can still have her to himself and I KNOW he was jealous of Alissa’s bf etc. She didn’t run away, no one in the union was fatter her. He killed her. And unfortunately, her sister Sarah probably got the murder story as accurate as possible. I believe that what Sarah was allegedly saying happened to Alissa, I believe that’s EXACTLY what happened. I just really hope one day they can prove it and nail this bastard.
"Dad is a pervert"? Very telling. Why would she say something like that out of nowhere, in a serious tone? Perhaps she said it because she knew they were filming and would have a record of it. That is disturbing.. This dad sounds like a monster and a total liar.
I think she said it because he used to record her and at that age she made the connection between the recorder and him and blurted it out. I'm very surprised he didn't erase or record it. Maybe he took pride in a sick way of having it on recording knowing that the evidence was there in so many tapes of him abusing and yet he still wan't caught. He's a very disgusting man and I hope he isn't hurting anyone else. I also hope he gets what he deserves soon.
I found it really unsettling that during the father's interview, he said he went to Alissa's work "just to look at her", as opposed to something like "to check on her".
I saw the episode about Alissa when it aired on ID (so, before Sarah realized some of these things, I believe), and I got such a bad read off the dad. When he said that, well, it was over, I was already uncomfortable with him from other things he said, but that line has warning bells all over. The word choice is just... scary. It's scary. It's even worse to think about the cameras in the house, though, imo. Secret cameras? Inside your house? I'm uncomfortable with Nanny cams, personally (though I understand them and why people have them). Hidden cams is just. So sketchy.
Talk about Thorn. Who cares if it’s “boring” because it matters. We’re sitting here watching a video on UA-cam and we have no idea what those kids are going through. Talk about it, those kids deserve more.
I’m late but right we need to bring awareness if they don’t care they can just skip because you don’t care doesn’t mean others don’t people can be inconsiderate
He was a strange man. Alyssa was my employee at jack in the box.He would come in and just sit there and it would creep her out. I have for years wondered what really happened to her. She was a sweet girl. A normal teenager. My heart goes out to you Sarah. ❤ Lisa
Did you ever have any other parents of teen employees swing on by, and any regularly? I know my mum would have been a regular and very annoying presence if I had worked there, however her obsession with me was pure mother love. Did you feel yourself something was wrong with him? Or was that just what she told you? Did he ever communicate with any of you or just stare psycho like?
The thing is though, it is JUST creepy because it's a dad not a mom, and is it creepier only because it's a step dad? Would people find a mom just as creepy? Sometimes people reach calling people a creep, far faster with men and in some cases it's not always warranted, just because theyre a man, not saying that's the case here because yes I agree he's creepy, just in general
@@angelika_munkastrap4634 The dad IS a creep? We are not talking about a woman right now. This is a case where a man is a prime suspect. This is a case about a creepy man, not woman. No one said women cannot be creepy. It is not just creepy cause it is a man/dad. The mom is dead. What you said has nothing to do with the case. He sexually abused his daughter. If you are defending this man you are ignorant and disgusting.
Breanne Dixon I doubt she'd do it knowingly. Remember the oxfam scandal? Like the biggest charity in the world? They're a scam. It's too hard to trust any charity nowadays, just my opinion:)
Ellie Paget just because another charity was busted for fraud doesnt mean ALL charities are scamming people. That is why there are charitIES, they are not all grouped under one organization. They are all organized and ran by different individuals who have different morals. Some are shitty, some are not. The same as everything else in life. So please, unless you have direct proof that Thorn is a scam, please don't go around stating that they are. You could potentially stunt the growth of a movement that could help millions of children.
Alissa literally shouted to Sarah: "Sarah, sarah, sarah! Your dad's a pervert!" in that video. If that isn't evidence something weird was going on, I don't know what is.
It’s absolutely insane how police just dismiss missing kids as “runaways” and don’t do anything to search for them. I mean, regardless of wether or not they wanna be missing or not, this is a CHILD VULNERABLE IN THE WORLD. It’s ridiculous.
I encountered this when my sister went missing for a few days it was horrific. Police were so apathetic and unhelpful. Honestly it made me feel even more alone it was traumatic
@@Jadenmic false statement pal. Yes you can just not in your own name. If you have money. And where I’m from a band member you can get hotel room in the casino no problem.
@@nicolay1450 I’m pretty sure JW means legally…. Just like saying you can’t drink in most states until you’re 21. Obviously you can if you have fake IDs, have an older person buy it, etc. but legally you can’t.
Because the teacher was in a romantic relationship with Mike Turney at the time that Alissa confined that information in her. Mike Turney manipulated the situation and convinced Alissa's teacher that Alissa was lying.
I don’t understand how the police DID NOT think it was CRAZY that the “father” was surveillancing his own children! This whole case is Bizarre and really sad for Sarah!!
Hang on. They probably DID think it was weird. But is it illegal? Illegal enough to haul the sole supporter of 5 children? Police don’t get to arrest people because they think they are weird. Thank God!
When I heard Alissa call the dad a pervert, my heart broke. I was molested as a child and I can remember for so long, I would call the man who did it a paedophile: not knowing, everyone would tell me that wasn't a nice thing to call someone, but I was a child who was scared and wanted what was happening to me to stop and me calling him a "paedophile" was me desperately trying to get someone to notice and help. I signed the petition and I'm glad to see it's almost at its goal. You will get justice, Alissa, and I'm so unbelievably sorry it wasn't soon enough.
Elin Winblad Good pick! He does have some narcissistic traits but not 100% convinced. I think that the fact that Alissa was his step daughter, not biological also played a huge part!
You’re honestly one of the most genuinely kind hearted UA-camrs ever. These videos are honestly *extremely* important. I’m so glad I found your channel.
KENDALL. You're amazing... the fact family members of missing persons come to YOU to tell their story and help the search is sooo amazing and powerful. You're a voice for the missing and I adore you for it. Your videos are so important and the work you do with Thorn. DON'T EVER STOP. ❤
Update August 2020: Today after almost two decades, Alissa and Sarah’s dad Michael Turney was arrested and charged with second degree murder. Sarah did it 👏🏻
Her sister is brave to talk about it. I was a victim of child abuse (physically) and everyone thought my dad was nice too but that is because the abuser is two faced. It sounded like she was controlled and she Defently sounded like she was in fear from him. I hope there will be justice for her.
Tatum Griffiths Thank you Tatum, my dad left when I was 21 so I haven't seen him in years and I am so lucky to have him out of my life but it does change your life forever. Then years later I was abused in a relationship and lucky to be out of that as well.
@@rebeccasmith5832 I'm sorry you had to go through that as well and hope you get justice as well, I found out my dad's wife divorced him, karma is starting to come to him.
Kaur Amy exactly the same over here😫this poor girl.. she KNEW.. I think everyone knew.. people are just so quick to assume the next person will take care of it.. nobody did.. my god I cringed so hard when she said that! 😳😭🤢😢 this guy gives me major creepy vibes... ugh Off to sign the petition..
The fact he made fun of her and degraded her after she said that and started throwing stuff at her....he definitely abused her and I have no doubt he killed her. I am so sad she had to endure any of his shit.
"he was a drunk so he kicked him out" Man, if he was a drunk, why did he fill their mini fridge with beer? Also, most people who are children who claim that they've been sexually assaulted aren't lying about it. I don't care what the law says, he definitely sexually assaulted Alissa.That boyfriend knew what was up and I wish he would've called the police. I wish the teacher who suspected sexual abuse would've called the police too.
I remember seeing the home video of Alissa calling her rather a pervert on Tik Tok and being chilled to the bone.... you could tell she was being serious- that she was trying so hard to reach out to whoever would be viewing the tape later. I didn’t know what the word pervert meant when I was her age... I’m so sad that she did.
This is so scary. My abuser was just like this. He put cameras in my bedroom. I wasn’t allowed to speak to any boys even at 18. Had to keep my hair how he liked. He would spy on me at work and send me flowers. He abused me my entire life. This story could have been me. How truly terrible. I hope Alissa is found so her family can finally have some peace.
Alejandra Villalobos Magdaleno I moved out at 19 while he was at work one day. No one ever believed my story. He wound up having a heart attack alone and dying about 8 years ago. So I have peace of mind knowing he isn’t torturing a new family at least
@@makeyoupretty I'm glad he is not around to hurt you anymore, and I am extremely sorry that you experienced this. If you ever need to talk, I am always here for people who need it. Also there is AGORA, their national # is 855-505-4505, they help ppl in all sorts of situations, they helped me find resources when I really needed it & they also let you vent and things like that. I hope that you are happy and healthy in every possible way.
Yes I'm glad you are bringing back talking about thorn in the where is videos! It needs to be done, it needs people to be aware of it and what they do.
Yes I took longer on this one thas why there wasnt one in June! There will be at least one a month normally! edit: whoops i misunderstood this lol but thank you, im glad too!!
amberinwonderland Mike needs to be looked into as a person of interest. This is Alot like Monique Daniels. I watched your coverage of that Kendall, fantastic work. I think Mike is guilty.
Hailey Brown are you serious?? Not that it matters, but it's not... you go to an Islamic country and there's hookah bars, at least in both Egypt and Turkey where I spent time. Why would you assume this gentleman is an Islamist anyway supporting sharia law?? Anyway, completely irrelevant... this is about missing persons and a missing woman named Alissa, in case you forgot.
If a student came to you saying they were being sexually abused and your a MANDATED REPORTER, would you just dismiss what they said. Like who tf does that!?
It's really touching to see you shine a light on these cases that never get any attention. I would've never known about this case if it weren't for you. I truly hope Alissa is still alive but if not, I hope Sarah will get justice for her and find some evidence since the police clearly was unable to do that
ryan carson I feel like the police are holding back on information on purpose. I mean he was a detective he must know someone higher up in the system. Plus imagine how bad the department would look for hiring such a man who abused, killed and hid the body.
Sarah you are so brave and I'm so proud of you for standing up for your sister and for victims of abuse. You're so intelligent and well-spoken and I'm so sorry that you've had to go through all of this. Stay strong, sweet girl 💝✨
I feel so bad for Sarah, losing her sister, finding out her father isn't the man she thought he was, now caught up in the whole story. I hope she finds peace in life and good things come to her. Also, there is too much evidence against the dad for him not to be involved somehow. Either she actually ran away to get away from him or he had something to do with it. Like what the nephew said he saw on the videotape? Thats way too weird and specific to be made up. And all the other little things. He sounds like a creep, just was really good at hiding it. And he took all his creepiness out on Alissa, targeting her as the "rebellious" one and treating Sarah differently. How crazy. :(
Not a law expert but as believable as the evidence may be from the stories, I think it isn’t valid on court since it’s lacking more proof and might have been considered assumptions since there are no solid evidence:( i really hope alissa gets her justice
How is it boring to hear solutions about fucking human trafficking like that shit can really mess someone up mentally and leave them in a dark place I’ve never been in trafficking but the people that have have gone threw a lot and th fact that you’re saying it’s boring to hear about when it is a big problem in our world is just outrages just shut the fuck up and don’t say that shit!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@rananawito3526 yeah but the donations and the shirts are literally the funding to help WITH the human trafficking. She's not just gonna leave that out when it's important for people who are interested in helping out to know. And like she said; s k i p button. It's a thing. Use it if you get so bored
The other daughter saying he let her boyfriend move in when she was 17 and bought a mini-fridge and stocked it with beer tells me all i need to know. Creepy.
Jay Of The Dead yeah that video was awful, she called him a perv and he was more concern about the cam being on. Then insulting her and that contract thing... Omg.
I agree. The dad seems to be hiding something. My guess is he was sexually abusing Alyssa and she threatened to reveal the truth. He would not let that happen, ever, and killed her.
all of this happened because SEXUAL ABUSE IS NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY! her friends, her boyfriend her TEACHER should've reported the police after the claims against her dad. I'm so sorry for her sister. I feel like moms are the only people you can truly trust. I'm heartbroken that she lost her mom and has such a disgusting father. I can relate though and girl I'm proud of you for being so strong. what your parent did does never define who you are, all of us need to remember that.
@Dana Davison exactly... Some mothers are Narcissistic pieces of work, jealous, insecure, unhappy and competitive with their own daughters. It's sickening.
i’m late but not all dad’s are like that unless they weren’t raised right . a dad that is like mike ? that’s not even a man , that’s a monster . moms? most of the time moms wouldn’t believe the child & they will choi’s their husband over them UNLESS the mom spots it with her own eyes or sees it on camera or something . i’m just saying , not all dad’s are like that 💯
The first alarming thing is that Mike referred to himself as “Daddy” when talking about his teenage daughter. The second red flag is that he was so controlling of ONLY Alissa. Third alarm is that HE WAS RECORDING HIS CHILDREN INSIDE HIS HOUSE FOR NO REASON. I think the video of Alissa saying “Sarah- Sarah- Dad’s a pervert.” should be enough evidence to arrest the man.
I mean my dad calls himself daddy bc that's what I'm supposed to call him and I'm a teen myself it's definitely not in a weird sexual way bc that would be really gross but it's just kinda a respect thing and he's around his 30s a full grown extremely muscular man and calls his own father daddy still to this day but idk every family is different but still that man is disgusting
the upsetting thing about media coverage in missing persons cases is that people just lose interest. if there aren’t leads being followed or the case has been cold for years, then media will often drop the case because they either don’t care anymore or people are losing hope. it’s awful when you think about it, because a little more media coverage could make someone talk. they might even bring closure to a family - whether that’s by bringing the missing person home or just finding out where they went and what happened to them.
LUNA. it’s even worse for non white persons in america. they barely get much interest in public eye compared to white kids missing. i just wish all missing persons got coverage. they all deserve it.
They'll report on us spreading awareness, if we can make it big enough. This isn't just for this girl. This could start to help more people. Kendall's videos have already raised 20,000$ to a company that looks for these people. Just like the Me Too movement, just because it happened in the past doesn't mean media won't talk about it. They NEED to talk about it.
If there is enough attention, I’m sure more people will hear about it and get involved. I had never heard about this case until just now, with Kendall’s video.
Her sister is amazing. My dad was murdered and I know first hand how hard it is to talk about and how emotionally exhausting it gets but how you find the strength to do so for the person you love and for a shot at justice. Kudos to her. All my love!
I just graduated from Paradise Valley High School this Thursday night and my principal honored Alissa and gave a moment of silence for her at the ceremony. I've known of her story for years now, but I had no idea she had gone to my school. It really puts things into perspective how close missing person cases are to you, not just a distant phenomenon. It really made me happy Alissa's story was brought up to the thousands of people at my graduation, I hope her story never dies and we can someday bring her justice.
I HATE that people say it's "boring" when you're talking about Thorn...It's SO IMPORTANT...I watch every single one of your where is videos and I tell my family the stories too. I am also looking to do small community fundraisers and donate to Thorn...I feel like it's an INCREDIBLY important topic to support..
Dana Davison what?? Is that true? I tried searching but couldn’t find anything. All I found was that the technology has been used to identify 6000 victims and rescued 103 as of 2018
For Sarah to be able to change her mind and speak with so much conviction against her father must have taken a lot and I respect her so much for it!! I can’t imagine how tough it would be to not only lose your last remaining parent in the process but also be cut off from most if your extended family, but she’s so brave for speaking about what she believes is the truth
For his own children to think he’s done this to me speaks volumes. This is the second video I’ve watched on this story and to me it’s obvious he did it xxx
Exactly! I couldn't ever imagine accusing my father of something like this knowing he didn't do it. His poor daughters, i feel so horrible that they were subject to this 24/7
Ok...my first question is about the "contract" he had Alyssa sign. WHY on Earth would you have ur daughter sign a contract saying you DIDNT sexually abuse her IF IT HAD NEVER COME UP BEFORE OR DIDNT HAPPEN? Like even BEFORE her boyfriend teacher friends said that? That's a smokin gun if u ask me!
Sarah just posted this! It’s way to help get #justiceforalissa is to write or call Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery. He decides which cases go to trial. write him at 301 W. Jefferson St. Phoenix, AZ 85003. Let’s flood his office with requests to try this case!
The only reason I haven’t signed is because I’m nervous about sharing my personal info online. To make up for it, Sarah on twitter shared an address to write to the Maricopa County Attorney directly about why this case should be brought to trial, which is something I’m planning to do. If anyone is nervous like me I recommend doing the same. :)
I can’t imagine the pain and the anger her sister must be living with everyday, I really hope you get the answers you need in order to solve this case. This is just devastating.
Hats off to Sarah. It would be very hard to go against your dad and do the right thing. He has now been arrested for Sarah's disappearance because of her diligence. Good on you sweetheart.
Oh my god...that VHS. Seeing the dad try and "team up" with Sara while saying over and over "Allisa's a stupid morooonnnn"...reminds me SO MUCH of my dad. I so feel for her. I wish I could have known Allisa. Maybe we could have helped each other..I dunno.
The Hob Family *ESPECIALLY* since she seems like she was not only his daughter, but his pride and joy! I mean she was actively trying and petitioning to get him out of prison, so you *know* just how much she loved him and how highly she thought of him. It takes a lot for someone with that close of a bond to publicly accuse the father she once loved more than anything! That's all the proof I need. I just can't imagine how painful this has been for her, not just losing her sister and her mom, but she has also lost her dad. She is so incredibly strong for stepping up to be her sister's voice, even when it cost her the loss of her father, her only parent left. My heart breaks for her, and I pray that she finds justice for her sister. God bless her! 💕🙏🏻
The way Alyssa’s dad treated her was a lot like the way my dad treated me. He molested me for 8 years. He was abusive physically and mentally. He used to pick me up from school for no reason. I truly feel for Alyssa and Sarah. Sending love their way💜
I am so sorry that you or Alissa had to experience this horrible abuse from your fathers! It’s so unfair and heartbreaking. I hope that you find peace, healing and true joy in the future. You are worthy of authentic love and a happy life! Stay strong and keep sharing your story! We are stronger together and most especially when our voices are united. As a fellow survivor of sexual assault I stand with you! We are not alone. 💕
I think that runaways should be treated the same as every other disappearance. It almost never is the case that they're running for no reason & then cases like this would be far less likely to happen. If they find them, do an in-depth interview & if everything is hunky dory, then fine move on. It's nothing more than a welfare check & cops do those all the damn time. Far fewer people would slip through the cracks that way. Have a great day!
Tazhie Nunurbusinezz In an ideal world that would happen but unfortunately there just isn’t enough money to look into every missing person case in depth so they have to prioritise.
Most of the time they are run aways. It happens a lot. I volunteered at a JDC for a while and 90% of the kids there were for probation violation by running away. Sometimes it’s not the case, but if there’s no evidence leading to a disappearance, there isn’t enough money to put full force effort into it.
Bek Slater Or we could just make a few less million dollar bombs or a few less billion dollar fighter jets (that the military hate & say don't work like promised so don't even want) & we'd be all set. Most people don't remember this but less than a week before 9/11, the Pentagon informed Congress that they had "misplaced" 3 trillion dollars. If we started holding them more accountable instead of handing contractors blank checks, we'd have more than enough. Seems our priorities are just way out of whack.
He seems so guilty. Out of all the true crime videos I’ve watched no parents usually point out the bad things about their kid even if they were a “wild child” they say stuff like “free spirited” or “loved life” the way he talks about her should be suspicious itself
That video he made where he is calling her a stupid moron in that awful voice told me everything I needed to know about him. He sounded like such a bully and such a creep. He is obviously abusive. It is very clear that he did it.
Okay, so here’s what I think. I think that Mike was sexually abusing Alissa. There are a lot of red flags in this case, the fact that Alissa was not his biological daughter made it easier for him, after her mother passed away she didn’t have her to protect her from Mike, and he could have starting turning his attention on her as some sort of replacement for his wife. The fact that he monitored her constantly could have been from fear of her outing him as an abuser, but it also could have been a fixation on her, he was displaying jealous tendencies in terms of Alissa’s boyfriend. The video in which she calls Mike a pervert and he calls her a stupid moron, I mean, what kid says that their stepdad is a pervert unless it’s true? The whole incident with the cousin finding the vhs footage of Alissa is weird, and the fact that Alissa said to friends that Mike picked her up from school early and tried to abuse her and he picked her up early from school the day she went missing is another red flag for me. I think he picked her up early from school, tried to sexually abuse her, she fought back and said she would tell and he killed her and buried her. He probably had the note she wrote about running away because he had previously gone through her things out of jealousy and snooping, so he had it ready as an excuse and made sure Sarah found it and the staged run away scene in her room. It’s easy to make a teenage girl look like a runaway, and he knew how to manipulate the narrative around her disappearance to make her seem like she left. I hope that he gets put in trial for this, he should not be allowed to walk free if he did kill her. Okay, I know that was long, but I really hope that Sarah gets some closure on this, Alissa gets justice and Mike gets what he deserves. Thanks Kendall for covering this story and for all the work you do with Thorn. ❤️
Hey Kendall! Have you heard of the Elyse Pahler case? She was murdered where I live in 1995 by some guys in a rock band that killed her as a sacrifice to get their band famous. Its what the movie Jennifer's Body is based off of. Her parents were the ones that tried to sue Slayer. My brother went to school with her, such an interesting and twisted case
It's insane that with the majority of these cases, it's so blatantly obvious who the culprit could be, but it's still so hard to physically prove it. I mean...this guy recorded her, watched her at work, picked her up from school early and she was never seen again, and that home video where Alissa OUTRIGHT SAYS he's a pervert?!?! And those sexual abuse contracts?! I have no words
Check out my recent podcast episode with Sarah Turney ua-cam.com/video/YiPyWM9DECg/v-deo.html
Kendall Rae amazing podcast as always, Sarah was a great guest. It’s so incredible what you guys are doing to help spread awareness❤️❤️❤️
THANK YOU FOR THIS
Kendall Rae thank you I was just about to ask if there were any updates
Kendall Rae hey Kendall, my name’s Lore and I’m from Chicago and have such a corrupt, unsolved murder case of my half sister’s Mom, and I would love to be able to share this story with you, for you to tell it.
I am not current yet but hasnt this case been solved? having huge episode of deja vu.
"Sarah! Dad's a pervert." That says it all right there.
and especially how angry the dad was throughout the video
right??? like it’s so obvious. and it’s so horrifying:(((
It’s like she knew that if something bad happened to her, she needed to take any chance she could to leave any sort of evidence.
Omg no way that was her. I saw the video on tiktok!
Yep, and there was multiple videos of him recording her and stalking her. They also found a lot of hidden cameras in the house.
Alyssa saying "Dad is a pervert" was CHILLING. This whole thing was... a lot...
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Zamiria Monay 30:35
Can you just imagine being her sister and coming up on this video? My God.
@Dana Davison uhm... I just meant imagine being in her sisters shoe's watching that home video years later after all that has happened.
Johnny Brown I think he was talking about this UA-cam video not the home video and got confused about what video Kornelija was referring to.
My name is David Garman and I am Mike's nephew who lived with him and his daughters. I have been on the sidelines listening to this podcast and ithers. I am not sitting on the sidelines and being quiet anymore. First Mike had contacted me at the behest of my step father Lyle Garman. Mike and Lyle were concocting a wrongful death lawsuit to sue a hospital and a few doctors over my mother's sudden death. When Mike called me that he was having a hard time trying to take care of Alissa and Sarah and asked me if I could stay with him to help him with his daughters because of his health issues. I did not ask him if I could move in with him, I already had a place. I was not homeless or destitute as he has claimed over the years. He also said he needed financial help as well so I believed his stories and thought I could help him. It wasn't until a few years later that I realized his true intention was to get me involved with this lawsuit and to convince my late brother as well because these idiots had an attorney file a class action lawsuit. Back then I was drinking alcohol, heavily. I was self medicating because I am a combat veteran and my mother had just died. One night I came home and found a VHS tape that clearly had Alissa and I believe one of her friends posing nude. As soon as I saw that I called a friend to come pick me up immediately and I left hastily. The next day I called my mom's mother and sister to tell them what I found at Mike's house. When I spoke to them they were not to terribly shocked because they were suspicious of Mike having an inappropriate relationship with Alissa. I wish that I had called CPS and reported this. But I didn't. I live with this every day because I was a coward. Mike didn't kick me out he didn't take me in because I was destitute. When I was approached by the Phoenix PD via a flyer about Alissa in 2008 I decided that I needed to do the right thing and come forward with what I knew. And I still will. I loved Mike Turney. He was more of a father to me than my real and step father. I truly wanted to aspire to be like him. I don't want any attention and I do not seek attention. This isn't about me. This is about a 17 year old girl whose life was snuffed out because her step father didn't want anyone to know of his dirty secret. Mike Turney killed her. And that truth will come out. My heart goes out to Sarah and her brothers and the hell that they have and still do endure.
Wow!
@Alexis Sikes ♡ his comment literally was just made 3 wks ago. This video was posted 5 months ago. Logically, I think thats the ONLY reason for the lower amount of likes...Id assume from this point on that anyone who stumbles upon this comment will most likely continue to raise its likes, thats just my opinion on it tho 🙄 lol
@@breephoenix111 what do you mean?
Bree Phoenix // how do you know? you don't. so don't just make an assumption and claim that it is true when you clearly don't know
Wow. Sorry you gotta live with that, man. That is disheartening. But you did come forward. That's what matters. We all have things we wish we could do different.
On another note, Kendall usually doesn't catch the comments unless it's within the first few hours of the upload. Has someone notified her on Twitter or Insta about this comment? Not sure what they can do with it but seems like something she might want to see if she hasn't.
Update: Her stepfather has been arrested finally justice for Alissa Turney !!
!!! Yes
Hell yea!!!!!!!!
great rotten in hell
Thank you for posting this!
Im so glad to hear that!
He said he went to her place of work "just to look at her"!?!? Am I the only one who caught that?
Dude right when he said that I paused and looked at my gf and we were like dude that is WEIRD.
And his face when he says that what a pervert ! He disgusts me soooo fucking much
Thats Freaky, I Heard It Too.
Sierra Ferguson that’s so effed up I heard it and was like “god damn dude you’re a sick f***ing bastard”
I think he was definitely obsessed with her.
Alissa talked to her teacher about the sexual abuse by her step-father? Aren't teachers bound by law to contact authorities when a student comes to them about any kind of abuse at home?
Lori Lit Lolo yes they are! ANY person that works in a school is a mandated reporter! (So are nurses & aides)
Who is that teacher we should make sure they dont still work there
Maybe they did? I mean how else would they know she told the teacher unless the teacher told someone? They could've reported it and nothing was done, that happens all the time
This is the late 90’s it wasn’t a big deal back then
The teacher was in a relationship with alissa’s steapfather mike turney. The relationship ended after alissa confided in her.
When he said he would go to Alissa's work, "Just to look at her...." that was a slip up. 1000% CREEP.
I notice in the comments Alissa’s former boss said he’d go to her work and just sit there. It really creeped her (Alissa) our.
Yes i got that feeling too, i was like how they didnt catch that????
He would video tape her at work too and not just watch her there. There’s a clip going around fb of it
@@nacolhelton765 I've seen that video too.
Who’s here after they FINALLY arrested that creep??
🙋🏻♀️
Me ☝️
Finally,I hope she gets some justice
Hopefully justice will be served!!
Yes finally!!
Ok so i havent watched the vid yet but apparently me
Step dad recorded EVERYTHING that went on in HIS house, but those hours when she supposedly split are missing! Duh! Possessive freak!
He went to her work “just to LOOK at her” and then he quickly changes his word choice to “just to see if she was there.” Very telling. IMO, he was obsessed with her and perving on her.
He was sick in the head, clearly
Also he was probably paranoid that she would not be at work and may have run away or would be telling someone of the sexual abuse..
Sarah L Yes he was I caught that to
Her sister did another video like this with youtuber Stephanie Harlowe and in that video they actually showed footage that her dad recorded through the windows of Alissa's workplace (a fast food restaurant). It was really creepy and perverted feeling.
If he was ‘checking on her’ why would he be videotaping her ? Makes no sense
whenever Kendall says “it was sent to police but never looked into” I die a little inside
And you see it so often with cases like this.
And then the police will say why don't people come forward and report abuse .
Me too
same, but with the teacher. they’re supposed to be the first line of defence for so many kids and a mandatory reporter and they did nothing
UPDATE: MIKE HAS BEEN ARRESTED FOR THE MURDER OF ALISSA TURNEY!!!! maybe now she will finally get her justice and be able to rest in peace now!!
What happened
Good the father deserved it ! Justice for Alissa Rip Alissa
FINALLY!
@@vonniemacintosh3330 i believe he still hasn’t gone to trial. i think covid delayed it. i could only find one article saying that his trial would be sometime in 2021 but nothing else
Thank God! The father is creepy!
He referred to himself as "Daddy" when talking about his teenage stepdaughter. Absolutely creepy.
My stepdad does that too 😳
O K Are you close with him?
Ruby Duzan Nope, I barely talk to him cause he makes me and my sister very uncomfortable, he’s also really rude and yells all the time☠️
O K wow.
I don't know if it's different with stepchildren but to be fair I call my biological father daddy, and my mother mummy. it isn't always sexual (although i very much believe mike was a predator
So, this girl told her boyfriend, friends and a teacher that her step dad was sexually abusing her. And none of them reported it. Not even the teacher?
Our society takes sexual abuse lightly which is not true
To be fair, it’s possible Alyssa begged her friends and boyfriend to not say anything. I mean, she said she was scared he’d kill her. I can only imagine what would happen if they did a wellness check because her friends or boyfriend reported and what would’ve happened after that wellness check. That being said, her teacher DEFINITELY should’ve done something. That’s a grown adult who had an obligation to report something.
they might have said something, but Mike warned authorities that there would be "false reports"
The teacher dated the father for a while and after she told her everything the teacher left him but never said why
It's way more common then people think.
I can’t believe people would complain about you talking about Thorn and trying to raise money for a great cause. It’s just mind blowing how selfish people are now.
I knew I had watched a video on this case already a British UA-camr Eleanor Neale did a video on this like 5 months ago.
Seems like some weird disinformation bullshit. It's honestly creepy to me that people have an issue with Thorn being talked about.
Emily Cruz do Hamid hayat
that’s ridiculous if it bothers them that much they can skip it
Agreed 100% it’s actually quite shocking
Her sister just announced on tik tok that her dad was arrested for Alissa’s murder!!
Finally
What’s her TikTok
@@jenny.5star331 @saraheturney
He may have been obsessed with her because she reminded him of her mother. He seems to be very guilty.
Raymond Saults i agree
This is my first time hearing about this case but I’m definitely more into it and this was my thought exactly!! I feel like he’s for sure the one who was SO obsessed with her and I didn’t like how much he was into her life like that.... people can see him as the “overprotective parent” but that was BEYOND that! He was literally trying to make sure, at every point that he can still have her to himself and I KNOW he was jealous of Alissa’s bf etc. She didn’t run away, no one in the union was fatter her. He killed her. And unfortunately, her sister Sarah probably got the murder story as accurate as possible. I believe that what Sarah was allegedly saying happened to Alissa, I believe that’s EXACTLY what happened. I just really hope one day they can prove it and nail this bastard.
That’s what I thought 😭😭😭😂
Alyssa D yea
He’s a fucking asshole
"Dad is a pervert"? Very telling. Why would she say something like that out of nowhere, in a serious tone? Perhaps she said it because she knew they were filming and would have a record of it. That is disturbing.. This dad sounds like a monster and a total liar.
i agree!! i wish more people would understand that kids DO NOT LIE ABOUT ABUSE.
Adults should always believe children when it comes to sexual abuse or any kind of abuse. Kids don’t lie about these things.
I think she said it because he used to record her and at that age she made the connection between the recorder and him and blurted it out. I'm very surprised he didn't erase or record it. Maybe he took pride in a sick way of having it on recording knowing that the evidence was there in so many tapes of him abusing and yet he still wan't caught. He's a very disgusting man and I hope he isn't hurting anyone else. I also hope he gets what he deserves soon.
I found it really unsettling that during the father's interview, he said he went to Alissa's work "just to look at her", as opposed to something like "to check on her".
I was thinking the exact same thing
Yes! Instantly made me uncomfortable
I saw the episode about Alissa when it aired on ID (so, before Sarah realized some of these things, I believe), and I got such a bad read off the dad. When he said that, well, it was over, I was already uncomfortable with him from other things he said, but that line has warning bells all over. The word choice is just... scary. It's scary.
It's even worse to think about the cameras in the house, though, imo. Secret cameras? Inside your house? I'm uncomfortable with Nanny cams, personally (though I understand them and why people have them). Hidden cams is just. So sketchy.
I was thinking the same thing when I watched that part
Zoe Haskell yes super weird
Adults failing children over and over again. Speak tf up, that's a child, she told you for a reason!
I just cannot fucking believe the teacher who didn't report it when Alissa told them that her father was abusing her.
The police and teacher should be sued for not doing anything.
Talk about Thorn. Who cares if it’s “boring” because it matters. We’re sitting here watching a video on UA-cam and we have no idea what those kids are going through. Talk about it, those kids deserve more.
This is so true :(
I’m late but right we need to bring awareness if they don’t care they can just skip because you don’t care doesn’t mean others don’t people can be inconsiderate
YES
Well said
Exactly!!! 100%
He was a strange man. Alyssa was my employee at jack in the box.He would come in and just sit there and it would creep her out. I have for years wondered what really happened to her. She was a sweet girl. A normal teenager. My heart goes out to you Sarah. ❤ Lisa
Did you ever have any other parents of teen employees swing on by, and any regularly?
I know my mum would have been a regular and very annoying presence if I had worked there, however her obsession with me was pure mother love.
Did you feel yourself something was wrong with him? Or was that just what she told you?
Did he ever communicate with any of you or just stare psycho like?
Munkastrap4 it seems like ur trynna justify his actions he was a creep, just because your mother isn’t doesnt mean he innocently creeped on her.
@@angelika_munkastrap4634 if it creeped them out, including Alissa, I think the intention was not just father's love..
The thing is though, it is JUST creepy because it's a dad not a mom, and is it creepier only because it's a step dad? Would people find a mom just as creepy? Sometimes people reach calling people a creep, far faster with men and in some cases it's not always warranted, just because theyre a man, not saying that's the case here because yes I agree he's creepy, just in general
@@angelika_munkastrap4634 The dad IS a creep? We are not talking about a woman right now. This is a case where a man is a prime suspect. This is a case about a creepy man, not woman. No one said women cannot be creepy. It is not just creepy cause it is a man/dad. The mom is dead. What you said has nothing to do with the case. He sexually abused his daughter. If you are defending this man you are ignorant and disgusting.
Thorn is NOT boring. It is so important. If people think it is boring they can gtfo. What you do is so amazing Kendall.
Thank you and yes it is!!!
They don't give all the money they say they do...
Ellie Paget And how do you know that? And tbh, a little goes a long way. If she’s knowingly supporting a fake charity though, that’s messed up
Breanne Dixon I doubt she'd do it knowingly. Remember the oxfam scandal? Like the biggest charity in the world? They're a scam. It's too hard to trust any charity nowadays, just my opinion:)
Ellie Paget just because another charity was busted for fraud doesnt mean ALL charities are scamming people. That is why there are charitIES, they are not all grouped under one organization. They are all organized and ran by different individuals who have different morals. Some are shitty, some are not. The same as everything else in life. So please, unless you have direct proof that Thorn is a scam, please don't go around stating that they are. You could potentially stunt the growth of a movement that could help millions of children.
The home video Alyssa was recording says so much. “Dad’s a pervert” and then him saying “Alyssa is a moron”.
That’s not a normal man.
God I feel so much for the sister and having to just deal with all of this.
Seriously I cried thinking about her and what she’s going through
Alissa literally shouted to Sarah: "Sarah, sarah, sarah! Your dad's a pervert!" in that video.
If that isn't evidence something weird was going on, I don't know what is.
jamison h I totally agree!
jamison h what part
I think Alissa said that because she knew what her father had previously recorded on the camera and she didn't want Sarah to see it.
I have called my dad a lot of names when angry. Never a pervert. People don’t call their parents perverts for no reason 99.99% of the time.
It’s absolutely insane how police just dismiss missing kids as “runaways” and don’t do anything to search for them. I mean, regardless of wether or not they wanna be missing or not, this is a CHILD VULNERABLE IN THE WORLD. It’s ridiculous.
For real. You can't even get a hotel room if you are younger than 18.
Exactly. They can be abducted even if they ran away, too.
I encountered this when my sister went missing for a few days it was horrific. Police were so apathetic and unhelpful. Honestly it made me feel even more alone it was traumatic
@@Jadenmic false statement pal. Yes you can just not in your own name. If you have money. And where I’m from a band member you can get hotel room in the casino no problem.
@@nicolay1450 I’m pretty sure JW means legally…. Just like saying you can’t drink in most states until you’re 21. Obviously you can if you have fake IDs, have an older person buy it, etc. but legally you can’t.
How does a teacher justify not reporting sexual abuse?
Because the teacher was in a romantic relationship with Mike Turney at the time that Alissa confined that information in her. Mike Turney manipulated the situation and convinced Alissa's teacher that Alissa was lying.
@@XClosetXGeekX I don't give a SHIT!! She should have reported what Alissa told her and let CPS do their investigation.
It's the law in Australia now that adults must report this if they suspect it/it's been disclosed to them
I don’t understand how the police DID NOT think it was CRAZY that the “father” was surveillancing his own children! This whole case is Bizarre and really sad for Sarah!!
I know! Putting cameras in the vents? Ffs what a weirdo.
And then deleted all evidence 🤔
I just saw a comment that said the dad was a deputy in the 70s so he probably had some friends in the force
40% of them are abusers
Hang on. They probably DID think it was weird. But is it illegal? Illegal enough to haul the sole supporter of 5 children? Police don’t get to arrest people because they think they are weird. Thank God!
When I heard Alissa call the dad a pervert, my heart broke. I was molested as a child and I can remember for so long, I would call the man who did it a paedophile: not knowing, everyone would tell me that wasn't a nice thing to call someone, but I was a child who was scared and wanted what was happening to me to stop and me calling him a "paedophile" was me desperately trying to get someone to notice and help.
I signed the petition and I'm glad to see it's almost at its goal. You will get justice, Alissa, and I'm so unbelievably sorry it wasn't soon enough.
+Gaming Salma you’re such a sweet person! It’s so nice to see support for others in the comments it’s so heartwarming❤️
Bee Cee thank you for signing! 💜
Your story is a lot like mine 💙
Bee Cee Heartbreaking 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
@@sarahturney6344 is David Garman related to you?
I don't trust her father... He's just got too much going against him even if he is innocent.
Elin Winblad just curious - what do you mean by narcissism explaining the different treatment towards the children?
Wasn’t that her step dad?
Elin Winblad Good pick! He does have some narcissistic traits but not 100% convinced. I think that the fact that Alissa was his step daughter, not biological also played a huge part!
I had no idea, thank for explaining and I just checked out the subreddit - thanks for the suggestion!
*UPDATE:* THE DAD HAS BEEN ARRESTED FOR THE MURDER OF ALISSA
Good.
Did they ever find her? Or any evidence of her death?
@@jadeastepp1998 correct me if im wrong, but I heard they found her bones
@@jmfltr this is so sad
@@jmfltr they didn't find her bones
I can't believe people complained about you mentioning thorn what on earth
thed4rkestrose right what kinda Disney villain shit is that
thed4rkestrose Their probs helping in the human trafficking sheet.
SERIOUSLY THOUGH MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
“Surveillance cams” nooo he’s a peeping Tom and no doubt harmed that poor girl
IGNORE THE PEOPLE SAYING IT'S BORING TO TALK ABOUT THORN. You have this platform for a reason!!!
I came back to watch since the father has been charged. I am so happy for Sarah, the best sister somebody could have. I know Alissa is so proud of her
You’re honestly one of the most genuinely kind hearted UA-camrs ever. These videos are honestly *extremely* important. I’m so glad I found your channel.
Fr!
Its true and the world needs to know these things
I agree
Yes she is an amazing youtuber
Ethan Moses I love her she is so kind and she has a beautiful soul
As of June 8th, 2020, the police have officially submitted charges against Mike Turney to the prosecutor's office! We are getting closer to justice!
hope so !!
where did you find that? i searched on google but I didn´t find anything
@@sincerely.anasofia meaww.com/19-years-after-alissa-turney-disappeared-police-set-to-charge-her-stepfather
They arrested him
@@sincerely.anasofia Look at her sisters twitter
KENDALL. You're amazing... the fact family members of missing persons come to YOU to tell their story and help the search is sooo amazing and powerful. You're a voice for the missing and I adore you for it. Your videos are so important and the work you do with Thorn. DON'T EVER STOP. ❤
Thank you Rachel! And i wont!
Rachel A. YES AGREED.
Right? and they can literally skip over...people nowadays, I swear.
Have you checked out John's video on LordanARTS? He's been in communication with Sarah and doing videos about Alissa over the past few years.
Update August 2020: Today
after almost two decades, Alissa and Sarah’s dad Michael Turney was arrested and charged with second degree murder. Sarah did it 👏🏻
He wouldn't give up home surveillance videos, but dug up the ones of him fighting with her boyfriend..........
So many red flags I lost count.
Her sister is brave to talk about it. I was a victim of child abuse (physically) and everyone thought my dad was nice too but that is because the abuser is two faced. It sounded like she was controlled and she Defently sounded like she was in fear from him.
I hope there will be justice for her.
Tatum Griffiths Thank you Tatum, my dad left when I was 21 so I haven't seen him in years and I am so lucky to have him out of my life but it does change your life forever. Then years later I was abused in a relationship and lucky to be out of that as well.
Im seding so many hugs to you. I hope you are it a happier and brighter place. Sending lots of love.
@@assmasher6929 ,🤗 Hug, Thank I wish I could say my life is better now but I am living with a narcissistic mother now and trying to move out.
I am a victim of abuse too and everyone thought my abuser was amazing too. It's sick. I hope justice is served and served harshly to him.
@@rebeccasmith5832 I'm sorry you had to go through that as well and hope you get justice as well, I found out my dad's wife divorced him, karma is starting to come to him.
*Sarah, Dad is a pervert* that gave me chills 💔
Kaur Amy exactly the same over here😫this poor girl.. she KNEW.. I think everyone knew.. people are just so quick to assume the next person will take care of it.. nobody did.. my god I cringed so hard when she said that! 😳😭🤢😢 this guy gives me major creepy vibes... ugh
Off to sign the petition..
Vee Emm so true 💔
Kaur Amy me too
The fact he made fun of her and degraded her after she said that and started throwing stuff at her....he definitely abused her and I have no doubt he killed her. I am so sad she had to endure any of his shit.
It broke my heart when I found it.
HE WAS CHARGED WITH MURDER TODAY! Finally some justice for this poor girl
If this story touched you at all spend the literal 5 seconds it takes to sign the petition in the video description. Seriously.
I’m not even 10 minutes into the video yet and I already signed.
Probably my favorite where is video you’ve ever done 🙌🏻
"he was a drunk so he kicked him out" Man, if he was a drunk, why did he fill their mini fridge with beer? Also, most people who are children who claim that they've been sexually assaulted aren't lying about it. I don't care what the law says, he definitely sexually assaulted Alissa.That boyfriend knew what was up and I wish he would've called the police. I wish the teacher who suspected sexual abuse would've called the police too.
I signed the petition.
I remember seeing the home video of Alissa calling her rather a pervert on Tik Tok and being chilled to the bone.... you could tell she was being serious- that she was trying so hard to reach out to whoever would be viewing the tape later. I didn’t know what the word pervert meant when I was her age... I’m so sad that she did.
This is so scary. My abuser was just like this. He put cameras in my bedroom. I wasn’t allowed to speak to any boys even at 18. Had to keep my hair how he liked. He would spy on me at work and send me flowers. He abused me my entire life. This story could have been me. How truly terrible. I hope Alissa is found so her family can finally have some peace.
How did you finally get away? And did he ever go to jail ?
Alejandra Villalobos Magdaleno I moved out at 19 while he was at work one day. No one ever believed my story. He wound up having a heart attack alone and dying about 8 years ago. So I have peace of mind knowing he isn’t torturing a new family at least
Larissa I’m glad you’re at peace!!❤️❤️❤️
Ava R thank you! I think everything that happened to me was for a reason. Hopefully I can use it to help someone else one day
@@makeyoupretty I'm glad he is not around to hurt you anymore, and I am extremely sorry that you experienced this. If you ever need to talk, I am always here for people who need it. Also there is AGORA, their national # is 855-505-4505, they help ppl in all sorts of situations, they helped me find resources when I really needed it & they also let you vent and things like that. I hope that you are happy and healthy in every possible way.
Yes I'm glad you are bringing back talking about thorn in the where is videos! It needs to be done, it needs people to be aware of it and what they do.
Yes I took longer on this one thas why there wasnt one in June! There will be at least one a month normally! edit: whoops i misunderstood this lol but thank you, im glad too!!
its sad that human trafficking still exists in 2018
amberinwonderland Mike needs to be looked into as a person of interest. This is Alot like Monique Daniels. I watched your coverage of that Kendall, fantastic work. I think Mike is guilty.
Completely agree with you he does need to be looked into as a person of interest there's just things that aren't adding up/making sense.
I think the father saw her as the mother and was in love with her in a twisted way
this
He’s fucking mental not being able to contain himself
Coming back to this video 2 years later, after justice was finally served! 🥰
Aren’t teachers mandated reporters!? A student tells you she’s been sexually assaulted and you don’t report it!?
Lindsey Willis they are 💔
Maybe they did report it and police (shockingly) did nothing.
Lindsey Willis they frequently don't report...my neice they called the parents to...talk to the family together...wtf?????
Not at the time she went missing
Thats the first thing i thought!
The OG missing persons channel. Love your videos Kendall
Ishan Ali hey love your video
U r everywhere lol
Ishan Ali I see you everywhere Hi
Hailey Brown are you serious?? Not that it matters, but it's not... you go to an Islamic country and there's hookah bars, at least in both Egypt and Turkey where I spent time. Why would you assume this gentleman is an Islamist anyway supporting sharia law?? Anyway, completely irrelevant... this is about missing persons and a missing woman named Alissa, in case you forgot.
This video was so powerful, thank you for shedding light on this case! Just signed the petition, I truly hope she gets justice!
Thanks so much Caitlin!💜💜💜🙏🏼
How do i sign the petition?
If a student came to you saying they were being sexually abused and your a MANDATED REPORTER, would you just dismiss what they said. Like who tf does that!?
It's really touching to see you shine a light on these cases that never get any attention. I would've never known about this case if it weren't for you. I truly hope Alissa is still alive but if not, I hope Sarah will get justice for her and find some evidence since the police clearly was unable to do that
ryan carson I feel like the police are holding back on information on purpose. I mean he was a detective he must know someone higher up in the system. Plus imagine how bad the department would look for hiring such a man who abused, killed and hid the body.
John from LordanARTS has been in communication with Sarah and doing videos about Alissa for the past few years. I'd recommend those as well.
My dad molested me and let me just say he acts like my dad did when I brought it up and called him a pervert etc. HE IS GUILTY!!!
i’m so so sorry that happened to you, i hope you’re ok now 💛
im so sorry God bless u
I completely agree I always said my step dad was a pervert. There's always a reason
I am so sorry... But you are a very brave woman to raise your voice. May God bless you. 🙏🏻
Thank you for sharing your strength by telling your story.
*your story is someone elses survival guide*
‘Why did you go there?’
‘Just to look at her...to watch’ so creepy 😬
Sarah you are so brave and I'm so proud of you for standing up for your sister and for victims of abuse. You're so intelligent and well-spoken and I'm so sorry that you've had to go through all of this. Stay strong, sweet girl 💝✨
I feel so bad for Sarah, losing her sister, finding out her father isn't the man she thought he was, now caught up in the whole story. I hope she finds peace in life and good things come to her.
Also, there is too much evidence against the dad for him not to be involved somehow. Either she actually ran away to get away from him or he had something to do with it. Like what the nephew said he saw on the videotape? Thats way too weird and specific to be made up. And all the other little things. He sounds like a creep, just was really good at hiding it. And he took all his creepiness out on Alissa, targeting her as the "rebellious" one and treating Sarah differently. How crazy. :(
He sexually abusing the step daughter that’s why. And treating her the way abusers treat their partners...
Not a law expert but as believable as the evidence may be from the stories, I think it isn’t valid on court since it’s lacking more proof and might have been considered assumptions since there are no solid evidence:( i really hope alissa gets her justice
if alissa ran away, i’m sure she would’ve reached out to SOMEONE. He defiantly killed her
good god this dude is so sick. He was so obsessed with her. when he couldnt control her anymore he took her out. that is so so sad.
It’s boring to hear about solutions to help end human trafficking?!?! Wow.
people are freaking stupid
How is it boring to hear solutions about fucking human trafficking like that shit can really mess someone up mentally and leave them in a dark place I’ve never been in trafficking but the people that have have gone threw a lot and th fact that you’re saying it’s boring to hear about when it is a big problem in our world is just outrages just shut the fuck up and don’t say that shit!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@nevaehb1272 read the cooment again. theres a question mark at the end
I just know about it, so it’s boring to hear the details of how to donate and the shirts and stuff, not the human trafficking.
@@rananawito3526 yeah but the donations and the shirts are literally the funding to help WITH the human trafficking. She's not just gonna leave that out when it's important for people who are interested in helping out to know. And like she said; s k i p button. It's a thing. Use it if you get so bored
The other daughter saying he let her boyfriend move in when she was 17 and bought a mini-fridge and stocked it with beer tells me all i need to know. Creepy.
That father is definitely involved with Alissa’s disappearance. He has issues and I believe without a doubt that he was abusing her.
Jay Of The Dead yeah that video was awful, she called him a perv and he was more concern about the cam being on. Then insulting her and that contract thing... Omg.
I agree. The dad seems to be hiding something. My guess is he was sexually abusing Alyssa and she threatened to reveal the truth. He would not let that happen, ever, and killed her.
jp i believe that too. I feel so bad for the sister sarah she lost too many people close to her :/
100% agree!!!
all of this happened because SEXUAL ABUSE IS NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY! her friends, her boyfriend her TEACHER should've reported the police after the claims against her dad. I'm so sorry for her sister. I feel like moms are the only people you can truly trust. I'm heartbroken that she lost her mom and has such a disgusting father. I can relate though and girl I'm proud of you for being so strong. what your parent did does never define who you are, all of us need to remember that.
Sadly mom's don't always believe the child or children. I was lucky and my mom did but a few houses down from me there mom didn't believe them.
Some mothers are emotionally and psychologically abusive and violent. Not all mothers are good.
@Dana Davison exactly... Some mothers are Narcissistic pieces of work, jealous, insecure, unhappy and competitive with their own daughters. It's sickening.
i’m late but not all dad’s are like that unless they weren’t raised right . a dad that is like mike ? that’s not even a man , that’s a monster . moms? most of the time moms wouldn’t believe the child & they will choi’s their husband over them UNLESS the mom spots it with her own eyes or sees it on camera or something . i’m just saying , not all dad’s are like that 💯
Not all moms, my mom said i was lying about her dad
The first alarming thing is that Mike referred to himself as “Daddy” when talking about his teenage daughter. The second red flag is that he was so controlling of ONLY Alissa. Third alarm is that HE WAS RECORDING HIS CHILDREN INSIDE HIS HOUSE FOR NO REASON. I think the video of Alissa saying “Sarah- Sarah- Dad’s a pervert.” should be enough evidence to arrest the man.
charlotte hanks as soon as I heard him call himself daddy I got weirded out and thought he did it. Now we know he did.
Also said he went to her work 'just to watch her' after suspecting she wasn't showing up... flat out stalker.
I swear I caught that too!!
I mean my dad calls himself daddy bc that's what I'm supposed to call him and I'm a teen myself it's definitely not in a weird sexual way bc that would be really gross but it's just kinda a respect thing and he's around his 30s a full grown extremely muscular man and calls his own father daddy still to this day but idk every family is different but still that man is disgusting
Its child porn i dont understand why they did not arrest him on that
Alissa 's sister delights me really deeply. She's such a good spot. Testifying against your own father for the sake of justice is really delightful.
the upsetting thing about media coverage in missing persons cases is that people just lose interest. if there aren’t leads being followed or the case has been cold for years, then media will often drop the case because they either don’t care anymore or people are losing hope. it’s awful when you think about it, because a little more media coverage could make someone talk. they might even bring closure to a family - whether that’s by bringing the missing person home or just finding out where they went and what happened to them.
You are so right!
LUNA. it’s even worse for non white persons in america. they barely get much interest in public eye compared to white kids missing. i just wish all missing persons got coverage. they all deserve it.
LUNA. Well if the case has gone old and there is no new information for years, what is the media supposed to do? The media reports on NEWS.
They'll report on us spreading awareness, if we can make it big enough. This isn't just for this girl. This could start to help more people. Kendall's videos have already raised 20,000$ to a company that looks for these people. Just like the Me Too movement, just because it happened in the past doesn't mean media won't talk about it. They NEED to talk about it.
If there is enough attention, I’m sure more people will hear about it and get involved. I had never heard about this case until just now, with Kendall’s video.
Her sister is amazing. My dad was murdered and I know first hand how hard it is to talk about and how emotionally exhausting it gets but how you find the strength to do so for the person you love and for a shot at justice. Kudos to her. All my love!
darcie mellon I’m so sorry for your loss and that pain 💜
alexandra thank you so so much
I’m so incredibly sorry for your loss!!
I'm sorry for your loss and I hope your father and your family got justice!!
I'm sorry that happened. Hopefully, your family got justice for that crime.
I like when you talk about Thorn. Ashton Kutcher is soooo handsome and I love when celebrities do good things with their fame and wealth.
You're an idiot, you don't really seem to get the message, "Ashton Kutcher is so handsome"??? Idiot.
merel janssen 😂😂I get what you're saying though.
His girlfriend was killed before he got famous.
@@mereljanssen5794 there is nothing wrong with observing that Ashton is handsome...it's true. And he Is an incredible human being. ❤❤❤
Sarah is so strong to be talking about this. I know her father got arrested for what happened to her sister and my heart goes out to her ❤️
that’s so insane that you got to work with her sister. what you’re doing is truly incredible.
I just graduated from Paradise Valley High School this Thursday night and my principal honored Alissa and gave a moment of silence for her at the ceremony. I've known of her story for years now, but I had no idea she had gone to my school. It really puts things into perspective how close missing person cases are to you, not just a distant phenomenon. It really made me happy Alissa's story was brought up to the thousands of people at my graduation, I hope her story never dies and we can someday bring her justice.
This is so crazy! I went to Paradise Valley High and this year filmed a special video for people that would be missed!!
I HATE that people say it's "boring" when you're talking about Thorn...It's SO IMPORTANT...I watch every single one of your where is videos and I tell my family the stories too. I am also looking to do small community fundraisers and donate to Thorn...I feel like it's an INCREDIBLY important topic to support..
Portia Kuchka I agree 100%. These are probably the same people who complain about receiving Amber Alerts.
Dana Davison what?? Is that true? I tried searching but couldn’t find anything. All I found was that the technology has been used to identify 6000 victims and rescued 103 as of 2018
For Sarah to be able to change her mind and speak with so much conviction against her father must have taken a lot and I respect her so much for it!! I can’t imagine how tough it would be to not only lose your last remaining parent in the process but also be cut off from most if your extended family, but she’s so brave for speaking about what she believes is the truth
Shouldn’t people be going through his stuff since he’s in prison? Seems like he was the type to keep everything. I bet there’s a lot of clues
He’s actually out now! A free man smh
cxmariee oh damn, that’s crazy!!!
cxmariee dude, someone needs to doxx him
For his own children to think he’s done this to me speaks volumes. This is the second video I’ve watched on this story and to me it’s obvious he did it xxx
Preach 🙏🏽
Exactly! I couldn't ever imagine accusing my father of something like this knowing he didn't do it. His poor daughters, i feel so horrible that they were subject to this 24/7
If she ran away she’d be alive rn and I feel like she would’ve definitely contact her sister by now
Ok...my first question is about the "contract" he had Alyssa sign. WHY on Earth would you have ur daughter sign a contract saying you DIDNT sexually abuse her IF IT HAD NEVER COME UP BEFORE OR DIDNT HAPPEN? Like even BEFORE her boyfriend teacher friends said that? That's a smokin gun if u ask me!
Sarah just posted this! It’s way to help get #justiceforalissa is to write or call Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery. He decides which cases go to trial. write him at 301 W. Jefferson St. Phoenix, AZ 85003. Let’s flood his office with requests to try this case!
Kendall Rae I will try from Australia xo
ill try from argentina
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Its been 4hrs since this comment and its not not even at 6k signatures.... more people need to sign!
The only reason I haven’t signed is because I’m nervous about sharing my personal info online.
To make up for it, Sarah on twitter shared an address to write to the Maricopa County Attorney directly about why this case should be brought to trial, which is something I’m planning to do. If anyone is nervous like me I recommend doing the same. :)
I can’t imagine the pain and the anger her sister must be living with everyday, I really hope you get the answers you need in order to solve this case. This is just devastating.
Hats off to Sarah. It would be very hard to go against your dad and do the right thing. He has now been arrested for Sarah's disappearance because of her diligence. Good on you sweetheart.
This poor girl. Lost her mom & sister and her dad is a monster. Bless her heart. She’s so educated and caring. I hope you get justice for your sister
Found video idea: Success stories from Thorn.
trinthetrex yes!!!!!!
Great idea!!
Yes!!!!!
I agree!!
trinthetrex YESSSSS!
Oh my god...that VHS. Seeing the dad try and "team up" with Sara while saying over and over "Allisa's a stupid morooonnnn"...reminds me SO MUCH of my dad. I so feel for her. I wish I could have known Allisa. Maybe we could have helped each other..I dunno.
That is why this feels so familiar to me! Shivers down my spine. This feels so eerie
Are you ok? Do you need help?
God bless u i love you
KENDALL WE HAVE A VICTORY 😭😭😭😭 HE WAS FINALLY CHARGED! SARAH IS SO INCREDIBLE FOR FIGHTING FOR HER SISTER 20 YEARS LATER. never too late for a win 💖
If his own daughter turned on him then it’s obvious he isn’t innocent .
The Hob Family *ESPECIALLY* since she seems like she was not only his daughter, but his pride and joy! I mean she was actively trying and petitioning to get him out of prison, so you *know* just how much she loved him and how highly she thought of him. It takes a lot for someone with that close of a bond to publicly accuse the father she once loved more than anything! That's all the proof I need. I just can't imagine how painful this has been for her, not just losing her sister and her mom, but she has also lost her dad. She is so incredibly strong for stepping up to be her sister's voice, even when it cost her the loss of her father, her only parent left. My heart breaks for her, and I pray that she finds justice for her sister. God bless her! 💕🙏🏻
The way Alyssa’s dad treated her was a lot like the way my dad treated me. He molested me for 8 years. He was abusive physically and mentally. He used to pick me up from school for no reason. I truly feel for Alyssa and Sarah. Sending love their way💜
I'm so sorry that happened to you. Did you manage to escape?
I am so sorry that you or Alissa had to experience this horrible abuse from your fathers! It’s so unfair and heartbreaking. I hope that you find peace, healing and true joy in the future. You are worthy of authentic love and a happy life! Stay strong and keep sharing your story! We are stronger together and most especially when our voices are united. As a fellow survivor of sexual assault I stand with you! We are not alone. 💕
I'm so sorry anyone experienced this. Monsters come in all titles unfortunately
That's horrific I'm so sorry. I hope you are having better days with the love and support you deserve💖
Am really sorry for what u gone thru God bless u ❤️
I think that runaways should be treated the same as every other disappearance. It almost never is the case that they're running for no reason & then cases like this would be far less likely to happen.
If they find them, do an in-depth interview & if everything is hunky dory, then fine move on. It's nothing more than a welfare check & cops do those all the damn time.
Far fewer people would slip through the cracks that way.
Have a great day!
Tazhie Nunurbusinezz In an ideal world that would happen but unfortunately there just isn’t enough money to look into every missing person case in depth so they have to prioritise.
THANK YOU
Most of the time they are run aways. It happens a lot. I volunteered at a JDC for a while and 90% of the kids there were for probation violation by running away. Sometimes it’s not the case, but if there’s no evidence leading to a disappearance, there isn’t enough money to put full force effort into it.
Tazhie Nunurbusinezz exactly! They’re still missing people, that could get in danger!
Bek Slater Or we could just make a few less million dollar bombs or a few less billion dollar fighter jets (that the military hate & say don't work like promised so don't even want) & we'd be all set.
Most people don't remember this but less than a week before 9/11, the Pentagon informed Congress that they had "misplaced" 3 trillion dollars. If we started holding them more accountable instead of handing contractors blank checks, we'd have more than enough. Seems our priorities are just way out of whack.
When that song comes on "where'd you go?..." I always tear up now.
He seems so guilty. Out of all the true crime videos I’ve watched no parents usually point out the bad things about their kid even if they were a “wild child” they say stuff like “free spirited” or “loved life” the way he talks about her should be suspicious itself
That video he made where he is calling her a stupid moron in that awful voice told me everything I needed to know about him. He sounded like such a bully and such a creep. He is obviously abusive. It is very clear that he did it.
Omg. 40 minute video?! So excited. And the sister is involved which is wild. Love ya Kendall!!!
Okay, so here’s what I think. I think that Mike was sexually abusing Alissa. There are a lot of red flags in this case, the fact that Alissa was not his biological daughter made it easier for him, after her mother passed away she didn’t have her to protect her from Mike, and he could have starting turning his attention on her as some sort of replacement for his wife. The fact that he monitored her constantly could have been from fear of her outing him as an abuser, but it also could have been a fixation on her, he was displaying jealous tendencies in terms of Alissa’s boyfriend. The video in which she calls Mike a pervert and he calls her a stupid moron, I mean, what kid says that their stepdad is a pervert unless it’s true? The whole incident with the cousin finding the vhs footage of Alissa is weird, and the fact that Alissa said to friends that Mike picked her up from school early and tried to abuse her and he picked her up early from school the day she went missing is another red flag for me. I think he picked her up early from school, tried to sexually abuse her, she fought back and said she would tell and he killed her and buried her. He probably had the note she wrote about running away because he had previously gone through her things out of jealousy and snooping, so he had it ready as an excuse and made sure Sarah found it and the staged run away scene in her room. It’s easy to make a teenage girl look like a runaway, and he knew how to manipulate the narrative around her disappearance to make her seem like she left. I hope that he gets put in trial for this, he should not be allowed to walk free if he did kill her. Okay, I know that was long, but I really hope that Sarah gets some closure on this, Alissa gets justice and Mike gets what he deserves. Thanks Kendall for covering this story and for all the work you do with Thorn. ❤️
Navy Rosie agreed
well said, i agree 🙌🏼
I just saw on Twitter that charged might be laid against him at last..
Thank you Sarah and Kendall. This story breaks my heart. I wish there was a place or source for people and kids in this situation.
There is.
Hey Kendall! Have you heard of the Elyse Pahler case? She was murdered where I live in 1995 by some guys in a rock band that killed her as a sacrifice to get their band famous. Its what the movie Jennifer's Body is based off of. Her parents were the ones that tried to sue Slayer. My brother went to school with her, such an interesting and twisted case
Bratatouille 😱😔😭 where can we find more info?
Bratatouille wow that seems like a very interesting case !
I didn’t know about that. It sounds interesting
Kendall please bless us with this case
Bratatouille yo I love jennifer’s body thank u for this!!!! do you know the podcast my favorite murder??? you might like it ❤️
That video on where Alissa tells her sister "Dad is a pervert" gave me the chills!
It's insane that with the majority of these cases, it's so blatantly obvious who the culprit could be, but it's still so hard to physically prove it. I mean...this guy recorded her, watched her at work, picked her up from school early and she was never seen again, and that home video where Alissa OUTRIGHT SAYS he's a pervert?!?! And those sexual abuse contracts?! I have no words
Kayla Balleste exactly imagine that it was a stranger then they'd be suspects for sure but because he was her dad it wasn't taken seriously