The Truth of Xehanort's Sorrow - Kingdom Hearts Dark Road
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2020
- Although Xehanort was defeated at the end of Kingdom Hearts 3, a dive into his past through Kingdom Hearts Dark Road gives us an understanding to his ideals, path to darkness and his inner sorrow through loss.
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Xehanort's Past is finally being revealed through Dark Road, and with his past coming understanding of his deeds and sorrow! Lets Get Past 1000 Likes!
I have to agree with you.
Augur Robin that’s unlikely
No wonder. I have one theory though, does Xehanort had a biological daughter or son?
Caleb Morse no he doesn’t their no way that Xehanort has a wife and children to continue his legacy.
What does HMK stand for???
“You see? Having a heart is just pain!”
“Pain is being human, Xemnas.”
“Really? It must take incredible strength!”
Wow your comment and this video brings a whole new meaning to that statement.
Xemnas right now to me embodies what is essentially Xehanort's despair or how he felt when he lost his friend just how Xemnas betrayed and lost his comrades and in the end showed sadness and regret.
@@michaelmurray8134 that and Terras sorrow for losing too and also losing his master.
That line had me.
Xemnas's lines after you defeat him kinda reflect Xehanort's loneliness in a way...
The Truth of Xehanort's Sorrow is that he had to defeat *_thousands and thousands and thousands of heartless_* *to reach Level 30*
The grind is real 😔
I just reached 29 today. Almost there!
And he still couldn't beat the winning streak challenge lol
@@fanficdaddy LOL TRUE
This shit right here. He got crazy from the grind.
Everyone: No one dies in.....
Nomura: Most of Xehanort's friends died.
People just don’t get that death works differently in Kingdom Hearts
yeah... but if they become popular Nomura will find a way to bring them back :v
@@auroraufi6359 Yeah, Death in KH is: Popular Character? = You live.
I was shocked to see a graveyard. I was like what a waste of land. There is nobody buried in there since they just scatter as light particles
S T R E L I T Z I A
Classic "Fight fire with fire" notion.
"You see how powerless you are to save them? Savor that rage and despair. Let it empower you!"
BRO
Give this guy a Oscars man 👊
@@HMK Will we find out the dreadful truth about Kairi's long lost parents in Melody of Memories?
Wow!
@@x-bladepokemonmastercj0781 and the face reveal of Sora's mom.
So Xeanort became Sandman "I'm not asking for your forgiveness. Just want you to understand"
Peter Parker "I've done terrible things too. I forgive you."
Xehanort is easily one of, if not the most intriguing character in all of Kingdom Hearts
I mean that should be a given since he’s the main villain of the series up until now
Kalen Marshall nope. There have been many games where it’s main antagonist is less interesting than a bag of rocks
I'm afraid that the by execution he still is not the most compelling villain or even char in the series. Leaving this important part of his character to mobile game published after KH3 is just kinda wonky storytelling.
Roope Reimi his story has been all over the series thus far, how is this any different???
@@blksheepramirez if series has had his story all over it, it surely hasn't been told it in very compelling way.
Makes sense in Birth By Sleep when he tells terra that just like darkness one can be a slave to the light. He fill he was a slave to the light and because of this he lacked power to save his best friends.
Failed to prevent the Keyblade war from happening which lead to more tragic events down the line leading to his next life only to experience more pain and suffering. Which all started being abandoned by his mother in his new life
Wow, I never thought I would hear such a deep insight here: "It is not about forgivness, but about understanding.". My take on that is, that forgivness is a side effect, not something you actively can do. Gaining understanding about someone and being compassionate someday leads to forgivness.
I would love to hear more about Xehanorts destiny and what made him to what it was.
Amazing words, great comment!
No forgiveness is not a side effect it is an action that someone does, it is a willingness to let go of any ill will or retribution. It does not require understanding as someone can understand someone’s reasons and still cannot forgive. It is not something native to humans as it only come from God Himself.
shawn Boahene We have a different perspective on forgiveness and that‘s okay. I see it this way, that forgiveness happens, as we heal our trauma, bit by bit. Then peace will arise, which gives room for forgiveness. That‘s how I see it.
Realest shit since Naruto and Pain. Arguably better.
+HMK
If I was Riku or Terra and learned this I feel a mix of anger and pity. He put others through what he went through and that in itself many would see as unforgivable.
"My world was turned upside down."
"Stoned-Kirito is an asshole, don't listen to that guy!"
I completely understand where Xehanort is coming from. The death of a friend, a close friend can change your perspectives. And while I hate the stuff he’s done to other people, I get why he did it
I don’t and Nomura can miss me with this nonsense. You’re telling me he did this because his friends died. That’s pure bull. From his quotes about how he reveals in darkness, how it’s the hearts true essence even though it killed his friends. He killed his friend that he supposedly cherished without a hint of remorse. I get this is a massive retcon but this is just stupid.
I’m on the fence about that. I think there was more to it then just that. Also he wasn’t completely alone, he did have his brother Eraqus whom he considered. I could understand if he lost *everything* an left completely alone.....but he did have people. Also his journey to different worlds and seeing everything end the same way possibly as his friends and being manipulated but the Mom and possibly Luxu, that’s what made him become the man he became.
Every Villain believes they are the Hero In there own story. I Imagine when the Master of Masters identity gets revealed we will all feel the same way.....like mabe the Mom lost people in his life too an he did all of this too change everything and to start over. I don’t mind the sympathetic villain but I feel like well hopefully they don’t over use it too much. I mean everybody hates Xigbar now too because he’s really Luxu an who knows what if we come to find out he lost family and friends to which is what led him to be so devoted to the Mom and became the Xigbar we all know.
I also think his parents didn’t love him anymore.
Jake Rutigliano here’s the thing. I think Xehanort was the first inhabitant of Destiny Islands. He explained that the people just sort of pop up eventually so that leads me to believe he was the first
@@shawnboahene5231 Agreed. This is a piss poor attempt at making someone who's well past the Moral Event Horizon sympathetic.
I would say that him Journeying to the other worlds and seeing the “hypocrisy”of how people spoke and acted probably was the thing that solidified his views on light and how the worlds need to be changed
So he basically wanted revenge when his best friends were killed. It makes sense why he turned to the Darkness.
I wonder if the MoM had anything to do with his friends deaths 🤔
That is a very good question
You mean Luxu? according to the reports he had to find someone suitable and guide them down the path of darkness
@@malucifer no dude MoM, Young Xehanort talks to MoM not Luxu on that scene
Somehow i get the feeling he did not.
@@randomanimefan0154 He might had indirectly. First luring Xehanort to some questionable ideas which eventually led Xehanort to actions which caused his friends' deaths.
You either die a hero, or live to become the villain.
Xehanort sought power. that power corrupted his sight, but not his ideals.
He is the Tragic Hero turned Villain, who would do anything to create a world where what happened to him, would happen to no one else.
However, in doing so he paved his path in the blood of innocents.
There is a saying that those who fight monsters must be careful to not become one themselves. Xehanort became not just a monster but possibly the greatest monster to ever rise.
The story of his past of how he became a monster isn't an attempt to redeem him but a way to show how he became one and why. Xehanort saw the world in a way that we as the players of the series have yet to and as we dive into his history we can see why he felt the extreme solution needs to be used. This isn't seeking justification for his actions but seeing the underlining problem and figuring out how to fix it. The scary thing is that there are many parallels between Sora and Xehanort just as we have many parallels between Riku and Xehanort.
Are we seeing the road of a man who went to far to show a different road than Sora will choose or are we seeing a glimpse at the road Sora will follow?
You could say Sora is already walking down the same road but going in the light instead of dark
If Sora becomes a bad guy of light, things are gonna be REAAAAALLY interesting...
Because the Master of Masters is going to corrupt Sora into being his disciple like he corrupted Xehanort into following his path.
I view him Xehanort as a great scholar/philosopher type. Those kinds can not only swing either way in their alignment but defy conventional definitions within alignments too. Definitely glad we got Dark Road, looking forward to Episode 2. I honestly sympathize with him even if that's not what he wants. As unlike Sora who got magical/plot means to save people like Roxas, etc. There's NONE OF THAT for Xehanort.
But Xehanort is Nomura's fave ....
"The worst Evils (or darkest Darknesses in this case) grow from broken hearts."
True evil is born from something once truly and purely good, despair is a very major catalyst, along with hopelessness.
Give this man a hug!
I was going say something about Eraques being able to hold Xanahort while being a ghost then I remembered he was voiced by Mark Hamill.
Xehanort is my favorite character in the series
And I'm really happy that we get to explore his past
Even if it was through a mobile game
He's my favorite character too... However, I am downright furious that the only Xehanort game we get is a crappy grindy idle RPG mobile game !
@@milanmalfait9914 I feel you bro
But it's better than nothing
@@ZZAFRETZZ You're probably right, but I still think that even a gameplay a la Re:COM would have been better for Dark Road.
“My guess is that no one’s ever loved you before” my ass.
Finaly someone who said it!
Some fans theorize Urd was Xehanort's special someone (Like Kairi is to Sora) since she has golden eyes (before Xehanort did), and how her clothing and color scheme are similar to Ansem SoD's and that Ansem SoD inherited Urd's color scheme in his clothing.
In the graveyard scene, there are 7 other graves that the camera shows in addition to the four with the flowers. I would presume that means the 7 upper classmen were never found. Or at least I think that's what Nomura wants us to think.
Okay, I was just re watching the scene with Woody just to understand Xehanort's character more and came to this conclusion and then I see this video pop up in youtube. Amazing as always! The line that Xehanort mentions in that scene with Woody and the others "Your friends are your power? Ah... How very true" seems kind of upsetting. I know that we would usually analyze it or say it as if he is mocking Sora, but to me it felt like Xehanort believed in that too.
Then there is the scene where Sora believes that he doesn't have the power without his friends, I feel like that scene shows us how Xehanort felt or feels like on the inside.
I really like Xehanort's character in the story because his character has a depth that helps us understand and relate to his character.
Remember Xehanorts past life he was willing to fall into Darkness for those he considered friends (Emphmer Skuld) when he was willing to throw down with Master Ira so in a way he could relate to that he once shared Sora's view on friendship
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
“My guess is no one’s ever loved you before.” “Listen here, you little shit. I had lots of friends. One could say we looked at each other like a family. And where did that get me?”
The strength of will
Or the will to do what you must to get what you dream or what you wish.
That is the true power.
When multiple dreams entwine. "Friends" out grows even stronger.
That it's my theory
1:05 no, that can't be, we don't see Xeharnort sitting by his lonesome on a swingset while looking at his friends playing in a flashback
I've always been a fan of villains, and honestly I'm so happy his story is finally being told!
Xehanort has always been my favorite I simp for this old man
As grey as his EYES?? Ba dum tss
I cant wait to see more of his backstory. If you think about it he was the one other character you will always think of when you think kingdom hearts
So, does Eraqus' statement at the end of Chapter 1 imply that Xehanort is responsible for killing all his friends? (including Eraqus)
Eraqus is a hypocrite. Him and Odin put the task of destroying the darkness in Baldr so why is it Xehanort’s responsibility on the deaths of everybody? If Xehanort kept it a secret to himself is because he had suspicions which were later confirmed but then it was already too late. However Vidar, Vala and Vali already knew and never said a thing and only thought Baldr will never go for his own friends. These upperclassmen are the ones to be blamed the most, not Xehanort.
This was beautifully put
Xemnas as he fades away hits harder now 😳
I don’t mind Xehanort being a sympathetic villain.....I just hope they don’t plan to use that for *every* villain in the story. I get it Xehanort was the villain the whole time. An we are now understanding why. And he did get a happy ending. But we all come to find out he *wasnt* the real mastermind. The Master of Masters is, So I really hope for whatever plot or backstory Nomura has for the Mom. I don’t want it to be like......well the Mom lost friends too...and family. So he made this mastermind plan to change everything and to start over. Y,know I just feel like the sympathetic villain plot is very over used. I don’t mind it now for Xehanort of course since he was the series FIRST main villain. But for Luxu or the Master of masters I reeeally don’t want it be like “ wow they lost people too...so I get why they did what they did” 😑 because we would of already seen this type of storytelling with Master Xehanort.
yes if anything xehanort and master remind me of vader and palp we have yet to see master fight but i lnow that he will be stronger then xehanort he also could be connected to kairi
What if, like, Luxu or Ansem SoD, or someone else killed the four who died in order to nudge him in the dark seeker direction?
I really can't wait for more of dark road. it truly is an interesting story so far.
Understanding how people get to where they are is the way to help and prevent others from going there.
The first time I watched KH3 I was wondering why Nomura took the path of making Old Xehanort’s character redeemable before he dies since what he did till Kh3 had been very unforgivable but now after all the new follow ups showing his backstory now it all made sense. He is indeed a tragic who had lost sight or perhaps, misguided. I had never hated any villains in KH lore because they somehow had this reason I can actually understand and Master Xehanort, though terrible, he actually have my respect for being this extremely knowledgeable Keyblade Master. Out of Eraqus, Andem the Wise, and Yen Sid, he is definitely the wisest and most knowledgeable Master, his knowledge is probably the closest to Luxu and MoM. He is one of the first to know the existence of quadratum too and for that, he has my significant respect.
Stay tuned for Dark Road Episode 2！Great video dude, luv ya KH content
Oh my kingdom hearts this hits so much harder after Union cross ending now
And I’ll admit and be very honest here I originally gave xehanort ending crap when I first saw it and thought it was BS but after KH DR it made me change my mind.
boy numora most have been like oh what’s that a lot of you hate xehanort KH3 ending ok fine 😒GUESS WHAT😏 YOUR ALL PART OF XEHANORT HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT numora drops mic 🎤 leaves out door 🚪
Can't wait to see where this all goes!
I understand him completely, sorrow is quite the emotion...
Thank You HMK !
Kinda seems like he came to realize his role in MoM's plan and just set out to give 110%.
I am really looking forward to going through the Dark Seeker Saga again after getting the full Dark Road story. I am sure that there are going to be a lot of things that change how we look at different scenes. I know that after we found out about Terranort a lot of the scenes with Ansem Seeker of Darkness and Xemnas changed, and more recently all the scenes with Xigbar/Luxu changed.
All in all though I am kind of seeing Xehanort in Dark Road and all the later Xehanorts as different characters. I am also having trouble connecting Eraqus with his older self. I am sure that once we learn more about the story it will be a lot easier to see them as the same characters and I am looking forward to being able to do so. At this point in time in Dark Road however both of their younger selfs are much easier to like then the men that they grew up to be. I am sure that they will get to the point where I can see them as one and the same person I am just not there yet.
Now the story is even sadder!
wait I didnt know my boy Brian was the cover at the end omg I played a cover with him. So cool
this hits deep man
I can't wait for the day this story is completed and what it could mean if anything for the KH series going forward! Also I need Nomura to just have an origin/back story that's not built on pain and sadness and one that can be happy or at least end on a good note😢
Honestly the one thing I want to see in Dark Road more than anything is Xehanort haveing a one sided crush on Urd only to watch how she develops an actual romantic relationship with someone else right in front of hes eyes. Why? For that one line of Woody: My guess is noone's ever loved you before.
@@yungbreezy36 Thank you for you're kind words, inteligent comment, interseting and well explained thoughts and first of all for the real gentleman atitude that raidiates from you're sheer presence, its so rare to see it on the internet now days. Again, thank you!
She has golden eyes (did Xehanort inherit that from her), he always sits by her, and Urd's clothing/ color scheme is similar to Ansem SoD.
Nah.. I’d rather the KH story continues without romantic plot lines. I don’t even like the sora and kairi love story since it doesn’t even have any importance to the whole KH itself so why not just stay away from a romantic plot this time.
Darkness is hard to win against however making it your ally fills the sorrows in your heart from the pain of loss....
They should make it so we get to play as Xehanort and Eraquas.. that would be great.
Yes, an actual console game, not a mobile game.
I can't wait to see the finale of dark road.
And now even more sorrow :(
What I don't understand is the rule about how when you time travel. You can't change the past but we see in dark road that ansem sent xehanort to Scala ad caelum. So is that a retcon or am I missing something.
Wow..., that was very accurate, now I can understand why he had to do this he wanted to recreate the world as he desired where his friends didn't die a horrible death he just wanted to get rid of darkness by using the X-Blade to make a world filled with light. and maybe re-experience those times with his friends.
I like to see this as an almost star wars type path, a Jedi turning to the sith for greater power, maybe because they felt guilt over the deaths of a loved one. Maybe we'll see him indulge in darkness before eventually finding that balance is key, turning to the Grey.
Just my thoughts, I mean a couple of his forms have lightsaber-esque weapons, so I could just be overthinking it or not, who knows.
@HMK Quote from Thanos "THE HARDEST CHOICES REQUIRES THE STRONGEST WILLS"
I kinda get why he choose darkness even before dark road but he seem like a riku that never went back to the light ( since sora "died" maybe riku while trying to save sora may turn back to darkness if it means saving his friend)
HMK is right. We don't have to forgive xehanort because what he did in Birth by Sleep, Dream Drop Distance, and KH 3 were all terrible Acts but that doesn't mean we cannot understand and sympathize with why he did it. He wanted to fix what he considered was a doomed World anyway and decided to change things for the better even if the world saw him as evil. I don't agree with the methods but I understand the reason.
It's similar to how Obito's story came full circle. Fans don't completely forgive him but they do understand how and why he wanted to do it.
I wonder all this exploration into xehanort's past is a hint towards the future of sora, if sora found out all his friends died would he go down the dark seekers path too? and if so maybe that's why yozora has to save him?
i always saw sora and xehanort similar to each other. I just find it funny how those 2 have done similar acts such as stabbing themselves with the keyblade, both became heartless, both had multiple versions of themselves.
And now sora lost kairi and was willing to change the timeline in order to save her while xehanort attempted to reset the worlds maybe because the darkness killed his classmates? idk maybe it's nothing but those 2 are very similar sometimes.
Let's see if I'm similar to xehanort by doing a checklist. Tragic past: check. Strategic in decisions: always, so check. Care about others of my world: unfortunately even when I was a kid, so check. Hiding my sorrow with a calm demeanor: check. Willingness to try and change what's wrong with your world: check. Will easily do borderline evil deeds to achieve goals: no, at least not now. Considering last listed item as a check: yes, if I can't do what I set out to do in a peaceful way.
Tmw it gets recommended after the Union X ending LMAO
I love his character. Great vilains are ones you're not necesseraly supposed to forgive, but the understanding of their flaws make you care for them.
I only play KH3 and a bit of Union Cross and Dark Road, but it was obvious he was more deep that the typical bad guy. Giving up after Sora defeated him was great story telling : he tried his best for what he believed in but had to acknoledge someone better than him at the game. Knowing what certainely happened to his friends, speech of other version of him hits different.
I'm really excited to know more about the Dark Road he takes and why the Master Of Master was interesting in him. Did Luxu ever spoke again with his master before deciding to manipulate Xehanort from behind ? And what will Melody Of Memory give us on the plot ? We're already half year, I can't wait for it to get on Switch !
when s the episode 2 comin out ?
I think its failure, lies and disappointment that he choose the Dark Road. He saw that humas were behave like everthing is alright but it is all an "act". He saw this "act" not in 1 world but in all world.
I wonder that if when Xehanort killed all of Soras friends, he wanted him to feel what he felt when he lost his friends
I think xehanort is a very important character I think he is the metatron honestly if you reverse his name his name is tron-a-hex and tron means empty tool like literally it does and I found out if you spell sora's name backwards it's aros a very very close name to a greek god
I guess that is understanding why he choose this road
Tbh now that you theorized/explained Xehanort’s story, it sounds similar to Sasuke Uchiha’s story lol
Then is Eraqus the Naruto? xD
I don’t really see that much similarities
No.
Sasuke had no intentions of doing the right thing though 🤣 he literally had to get his ass beat by naruto for him to finally realize he has true friends. Other than that he would have went down a road of pure revenge and slaughtered anyone who got in his way
@@kalenmarshall8692 True. Actually, Pain is probably the most like Xehanort out of all of the Naruto cast.
It really is looking that way, don't it? Xehanort's sorrow. TwT He really tried to change the world for the better, but at such terrible costs that could've been avoided. I have a feeling they may show what happened to Xehanort's friends at least one time to show how Xehanort reacted. ;w;
Would a new player have to go through all of the hundreds of missions in Unchained X in order to experience dark road for themselves? I am not a new player, but I am far behind in the missions and it seems very difficult to keep up with the difficulty scale from what I remember.
EDIT: Do we know any of this or is it unclear for now?
I'm guessing it's Baldur that survived, as it's likely that the mission that Xehanort and them were sent to find the others is when they died
Also not sure if he would be the survivor, but Braig is Bragi if you switch the I and g, so possibly Bragi is the body that Luxu took as Braig. We know with Terranort that the hair and eye color changes when they're possessed so could be that Luxu actually has black hair and that is why Xehanort would not recognize him
*To understand all is to forgive all*
He was like Sora at one point
Now amplify this sorrow even more with Union X
So, Eraqus only became a master because everyone else was dead or peaced the fuck out. No wonder, dude was incompetent to his dying breath.
I think i will begin Dark Road from now
Auto is your friend. Just flip that on. Occasionally buy strong cards and apply them and let auto do the heavy lifting
Thanks and i just found something interesting. Well the traduction of Sora and Yozora's name which is:
Sora = sky
Yozora = night sky (the two in japanese)
And in the last video we see there's a connection betwen The master of masters, Sora and Yozora. And if the traduction of Sora and Yozora's name will help us to find the real name of The master of masters?
Yeah I don't know about how they try to make him more a tragic character. He seams having enjoyed way too much the bad thing he has done to make it plausible for me. Without KH3 I don't feel like you could have feel is 'sorrow'. it's not bad but I don't feel that really fit his character
They shouldve used DDD as Xehanort's story and published Dark Road before KH3. Series does really have a problem when it comes down to characterization.
Rip xehanort
Xehanort seems jaded
I bet Woody would feel like a piece of shit if he actually knew.
I understand him all too well.....
The truth is that his only friend Eraqus turned against him...just because he pulled a Captain Hook and turned to a user of darkness
Yeah that was kinda dick-ish of Eraqus but in the end i guess he realized he was no different hence he came back for his friend.
@@randomanimefan0154 true he even was willing to unjustly kill Ven and fight Terra being blinded by the light. Ironic how two friends were blinded by the very path they walked down
Hmk: Sees a quote I have a theory🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Woah…
Sora backwards aros means to desire love and the roman equivalent is cupid or amor, kinda cool to be honest cause I see past all these things😂😂😂 xehanort I'm sure is one of the master of masters scribes a metatron
That's Eros.
DIVE IN
THESE WORLDS SHALL KNOW PAIN!
I wonder if this is why he killed Kairi in front of Sora like it was no big deal.
Also it gives the narrative another reason to cement Sora as the good guy as he didn't turn to darkness after losing his friends like Xehanort did.
As I'm typing this I just realized, Xehanorts plans for Sora throughout the franchise has always involved taking friends from people, he took Ventus and Terra away from Aqua. Riku and Kairi away from Sora. and Goofy and Donald "died" too (Goofy with the boulder and Donald with zetta-flare) and idk how to even describe the whole Namine, Roxas, Axel, and Xion situation but they all lost each other too. Xehanort is making everyone experience what he did.
I feel bad for Xehanort i get why what he did he loss his friends he felt really bad for what happen
i feel like there is going to be a light version of heartless that be respoible for teh tragety witch will be the main reason why xenonort goes to darkness being if both sides cause monsters why just use one side of the same power
What ost is this
Hmm. Even though Nomura didnt have much of a hadn in final fantasy 15 as much as in versus 13 there still seems to be a bit of him lingering in there.
There are a lot of connections and similarities you can make between Xehanort and Ardyn from ff15. Both are very tragic characters that get set on a path that will walk them down a road of darkness and loneliness of course their set up differs considering Ardyn was simply a pawn by the gods to awaken the True King. However Ardyn and Xehanort both had great loss Ardyn lost his lover Xehanort lost his friends (albeit still had eraqus and 2 others) both trusted in something so much only for it to disappoint them. Ardyn believed he was doing good and was granted a gift to take the starscourge out of those that were inflicted unknowingly making him no longer eligible to become king. Ardyn believed that what he was doing was a good thing that no one suffered but then he was treated like a monster and a criminal. Xehanort believed he was doing something good but even he was only a pawn in an even bigger game not that he knew but Xehanort believed he was doing something good for their world something it needed so there was no more suffering. Madara Uchiha could be looped into this too but im just stick on square enix stuff atm.
Regardless there are so many heartbreaking similarities between Xehanort and Ardyn
So the one's who died you think are the 4 we play alone with but not the upper classmen. I fill its the upperclassmen that died and its because he wasnt strong enough or his future self stopping him from saving them.