Some tips to gain popularity: - put troops in allies territory -help allies in war. -kill rebels in allies territories -give allies presents ( money or settlements ) but your popularity with the masses may drop. In that case lower the taxes.
Pontifex Maximus (supreme pontiff) was primarily head of all religious matters, as he was chief high priest of Rome. Was supposed to oversee most important rituals on religious days and funeral rites of important people. One famous supreme pontiff was Julius Caesar who was still persecuted by the senate for his "illegal war in Gaul" so that office didn't really protect him there. Also one could be elected consul at the same time.
I played a game as the Brutii, I did all the Senate missions but i stayed at 1/10 popularity with the Senate for pretty much the entire game so I'm not sure that it always works to get Senate popularity by doing the missions.
Popularity in senate highly depends on your popularuty with the people. If your family members happened to gain a lot of traits/retinues that improve popularity with the people almost all of such traits/retinues also has a background of lowering your popularity in senate.
@@MachinegunnerMugZ Also if you expand in cities without the senates bad opinion lowers their opinion. its like "yeah hes doing what we tell them but Im pretty sure its not for us its for his empire". just ask the senate what they think of a faction. Itll let you know when the line is drawn with that faction. the more they hate the enemy the less they hate you if you march in.
You are so close to 1000 subs. Really hope the best for you man! You made it with passion.. Even tho still without ads.. When you upgrade your gear, you can start another game.. To diversified your audience
I definitely plan on doing some other games. If you see some of my earlier videos I had a bit of civ5 and tropico 5 in there but my computer doesnt have the best processing power so its tough for me to record many games and play them at the same time without it lagging a ton. I will always have rome: total war content on this channel though, it's my favorite game for sure
Hey blueMatona . Thank you BlueMatona for how to move units together in formation . Do you have other advice about micromanaging and moving units more effectively and efficiently ? You still playing Rome total war? Or are you playing other total war games?
@@TheBeastsHere Senate missions are only a small number of actions that can improve your family member(fm) chances to be elected to a senate office. There are also a lot of other little things to do to get a useful traits and retinues. If your most influential fm is a governor, make sure to set tax rate to very high, build law temples, academies and train military units in a city he rules. The one interesting way to gain a useful political trait for the governor is to construct an arena in a city and never arrange games. Make sure you don't have more than 50k denarii left at the end of each turn. If your most influential fm is a faction leader every diplomacy success, even bribery, improves his political traits, so does successful assassinations/sabotage and spying attemts. You also receive a useful political trait for your faction leader after destroying an enemy faction. If your most influential fm is an army general, you have a high chance of receiving military tribune retinue and true roman trait after killing many enemy soldiers in a battle with your general unit and a 100% chance of getting good political trait after capturing a wonder.
This is a late game type of missions which pops up if you have a high level of popularity with people and low popularity in senate and for some reason refuse to start a civil war.
The different roman schools even welcomed Greek philosophers at some point, too, after a while though, the Romans just started telling all Greeks to go fuck themselves.
@@gigicestone4902 Probably got tired of their shit Senators: "Alright gentlemen, how can we reduce the national debt?" Philosophers: "If we have debt but no one can see it, does it really exist tho?"
It might be an interesting challenge to try to win the game without triggering a civil war! Keep assassinating allied generals so they lose the war maybe, and keep giving money to the enemies bordering the other roman factions, giving away excess land to keep civil war risk lower.
The senate has decided that your faction doesn't deserve any senate positions. SPQR: 1 settlement Scipii: 3 settlements Brutii: 6 settlements Julii: 35 settlements Are you sure you want to get on my bad side? Because I think it's you that doesn't deserve any senate positions. For anyone wondering I think the Scipii bugged after taking Syracuse, they never even took Lilybaeum and I beat the Brutii to most of Greece
A lot of times, I’ve noticed that if the Scipii attack Syracuse in the first five turns and lose that battle, their campaign never seems to recover. They spend the rest of time in futility trying to conquer the rest of Sicily and never even land in Africa by the time the Roman civil war starts. The Julii and Brutii never face this problem. Even in a slow campaign start for them, they’ll have at least 20 settlements by the time the civil war starts.
so what happens when u take rome? is there an easier way to win the civil war or just conquer whatever they have? have only played the game twice so far :)@@BlueMatona
Great Video. I always wondered why the Senate offices in RTW were not consistent with history. They got the first 4 right, but there were really only 4 offices in the Senate. From lowest to Highest it was Quaestor, Aedile, Praetor, Consul. Censor and Pontifex Maximus were government offices, but weren't really Senate Offices. Pontifex Maximus wasn't the highest office in the Roman senate, Consul was. Pontifex Maximus was the highest ranking religious leader in the Roman state, and it was a Lifetime office. So once you're elected Pontifex Maximus, you held that title for the rest of your life. Censor's did not out rank Consul, nor were they below Pontifex Maximus. They weren't even an Office in the Senate, but rather a government official responsible for keeping the count of the population, among other things. Consul was the Highest office in the Senate and were the Leaders of the Roman Republic. There was always 2 Consuls at a time and They were effectively Kings in all but name, the head of state and government, and were allowed to wear a purple stripe in their Robe -- a color widely regarded as the color of Royalty by the Romans.
It's not actually true that the game hardcodes Roman Senate unpopularity as Pleb pop is high. I have 10/10 with people, but paying tribute to Senate and completing missions has kept up a top Senate rating as high as 8/10. I never used to bother with this in game but tried to improve play, interferring with other factions, eg) Brutii enemies have had discrete subs through make gift and so on. For once I'm aquiring high offices which help manage cities
I've only managed to get 1 family member to pontifex maximus, but that's mostly bc he lived to the ripe old age of 80 somehow. Other than him I've never seen someone live past 68 in my campaigns. Outlived his sons they all died late 50's.
Footnote: None of this is remotely historically accurate except in some very vague symbolic sense. Also Pontifex Maximus was not that big of an office.
Pontifex Maximus was significant, maybe not bigger than Consul, but the advantage is that the Pontifex Maximus position is for life, whereas Consuls had term limits. In particular Julius Caeser was Pontifex Maximus and he used his religious authority to influence some political movements: check out Historia Civilis' video: ua-cam.com/video/NcCtiX-VuWA/v-deo.html
@@Qladstone Great stuff. I've gone through them. About the station though; Is it a fairly useful political asset? You bet. Is it the top dog position? Not remotely so.
Haven't played in 10 years and I just got back into the game so I was hoping to learn some new things on youtube. This video did not disappoint with tons of new tricks and a great explanation of this mechanic that i didn't know much about. Looking forward to checking out more of your content!
One thing I've noticed is the Senate favors you most if you are playing the Brutii faction. Your senate missions will help you expand into the area you want to go, so you don't really have to go out of your way to complete a mission. Second-best is the Scipii faction. And least favored is the Julii faction. If you are Julii, you will sometimes get some useful missions, but you will also get the mission to blockade Sparta (for the Brutii I guess), so you have to send your navy, if you have one close enough, a few turns away to accomplish the mission. All of the missions in the game help the beginner, so you will get missions to take small and weak rebel cities first. But taking the big cities is the real way to expand in the game.
I’ve gone ultra aggressive and done everything the Senate wanted and been passed over every time for Senate positions. What is the highest senate office anyone has managed to get? I honestly wonder if the hard coding makes it impossible to get into position s. Other factions were not even doing anything worthwhile and they get two three offices. What is the deal?
The thing is senators can be elected to a same office more than once, so you need to use assassins to improve your family members(fm) chances. Senate missions are only a small number of actions that can improve your fm chances to be elected to a senate office. There are also a lot of other little things to do to get a useful traits and retinues. If your most influential fm is a governor, make sure to set tax rate to very high, build law temples, academies and train military units in a city he rules. The one interesting way to gain a useful political trait for the governor is to construct an arena in a city and never arrange games. Make sure you don't have more than 50k denarii left at the end of each turn. If your most influential fm is a faction leader every diplomacy success, even bribery, improves his political traits, so does successful assassinations/sabotage and spying attemts. You also receive a useful political trait for your faction leader after destroying an enemy faction. If your most influential fm is an army general, you have a high chance of receiving military tribune retinue and true roman trait after killing many enemy soldiers in a battle with your general unit and a 100% chance of getting good political trait after capturing a wonder.
Apologies for being a day late with this video as I had a really busy week at work. I hope you all enjoy and find this game guide helpful!
This weekend's Let's Play Brutii and Germania episodes will be right on schedule!
A trick : watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.
@Samuel Neil Yea, have been watching on flixzone} for since november myself :D
@BlueMatona : Actually, it will often tell you what the reward will be if you complete a given mission .
Made my day - "New Senate Mision: Blockade port in bumfuck nowhere!"
For real
I managed to hold all of the goverment positions it senate once:)
"I am the senate!"- Socrates
me too. I assasinate my competitor
Some tips to gain popularity:
- put troops in allies territory
-help allies in war.
-kill rebels in allies territories
-give allies presents ( money or settlements )
but your popularity with the masses may drop. In that case lower the taxes.
is that rome remastered as well or just original rome?
Pontifex Maximus (supreme pontiff) was primarily head of all religious matters, as he was chief high priest of Rome. Was supposed to oversee most important rituals on religious days and funeral rites of important people. One famous supreme pontiff was Julius Caesar who was still persecuted by the senate for his "illegal war in Gaul" so that office didn't really protect him there. Also one could be elected consul at the same time.
I would really love to see the civil war mechanics fleshed out!
You can skip Aedile and go from Quaestor to Praetor, just like the real Cursus Honorum.
I played a game as the Brutii, I did all the Senate missions but i stayed at 1/10 popularity with the Senate for pretty much the entire game so I'm not sure that it always works to get Senate popularity by doing the missions.
Popularity in senate highly depends on your popularuty with the people. If your family members happened to gain a lot of traits/retinues that improve popularity with the people almost all of such traits/retinues also has a background of lowering your popularity in senate.
@@MachinegunnerMugZ Also if you expand in cities without the senates bad opinion lowers their opinion. its like "yeah hes doing what we tell them but Im pretty sure its not for us its for his empire". just ask the senate what they think of a faction. Itll let you know when the line is drawn with that faction. the more they hate the enemy the less they hate you if you march in.
Funny thing is if I am not wrong you can’t be an Ex Pontifex Maximus irl because it was a lifetime job in Rome.
You are so close to 1000 subs. Really hope the best for you man! You made it with passion.. Even tho still without ads..
When you upgrade your gear, you can start another game.. To diversified your audience
I definitely plan on doing some other games. If you see some of my earlier videos I had a bit of civ5 and tropico 5 in there but my computer doesnt have the best processing power so its tough for me to record many games and play them at the same time without it lagging a ton.
I will always have rome: total war content on this channel though, it's my favorite game for sure
@@BlueMatona In just 9 monts. You reach 2k subs! I know you can do it. Wish you all the best
"I am the senate" -a certain emperor
Not yet
I’m super hyped to watch this!
Hey blueMatona . Thank you BlueMatona for how to move units together in formation . Do you have other advice about micromanaging and moving units more effectively and efficiently ?
You still playing Rome total war? Or are you playing other total war games?
This is pointless for me as none of my members get elected anyway even though I always do their tasks lol.
Use assassins against senators to increase your chances of beeing elected :)
Good idea, thanks :)
@@TheBeastsHere Senate missions are only a small number of actions that can improve your family member(fm) chances to be elected to a senate office. There are also a lot of other little things to do to get a useful traits and retinues. If your most influential fm is a governor, make sure to set tax rate to very high, build law temples, academies and train military units in a city he rules. The one interesting way to gain a useful political trait for the governor is to construct an arena in a city and never arrange games. Make sure you don't have more than 50k denarii left at the end of each turn. If your most influential fm is a faction leader every diplomacy success, even bribery, improves his political traits, so does successful assassinations/sabotage and spying attemts. You also receive a useful political trait for your faction leader after destroying an enemy faction. If your most influential fm is an army general, you have a high chance of receiving military tribune retinue and true roman trait after killing many enemy soldiers in a battle with your general unit and a 100% chance of getting good political trait after capturing a wonder.
Members get selected based on the number of Influence or the number of olive leaf crowns your generals have.
Please keep on updating or upload more tutorials or just gameplay if time allows, thanks a lot nevertheless
just conquer more lands and you will have your faction members in the senate some of them go through the lower positions while some did not
Suicide mission? I never heard of it, what is it?
This is a late game type of missions which pops up if you have a high level of popularity with people and low popularity in senate and for some reason refuse to start a civil war.
What happens if another house gets regicided? Would the senate go on?
You can get family members to start higher. I got my first senate appointment as Praetor so it kind of is at random
This all sounds to complicated. I'll just become the emperor instead.
i like how the senate just has some greek generals in it at the start
The different roman schools even welcomed Greek philosophers at some point, too, after a while though, the Romans just started telling all Greeks to go fuck themselves.
@@gigicestone4902 Probably got tired of their shit
Senators: "Alright gentlemen, how can we reduce the national debt?"
Philosophers: "If we have debt but no one can see it, does it really exist tho?"
@@allium2718 Roman Senators:.... Stop it. Just stop it.
@@gigicestone4902 which is understandable
Were they bribed generals?
One more option to get more chances on the positions of the senate:
- Eliminate the competition (assassins)
Thanks a lot!
Yes. At one campaign, I killed my competitor a lot up to the point every senate is my faction. Julii
I've never think on that 🤯
Maybe so, but then you might not have as good a target for diplomacy
It might be an interesting challenge to try to win the game without triggering a civil war! Keep assassinating allied generals so they lose the war maybe, and keep giving money to the enemies bordering the other roman factions, giving away excess land to keep civil war risk lower.
That's honorable to a fellow roman
Awesome! No other UA-camr talks about this stuff! Thanks a ton man
I like how the trait “Ex Pontifex Maximus” exists because the Pontifex Maximus served for life.
Nice info
any mod to fix that for rome remastered?@@insch.9547
Yea... one time the senate asked me to go all the way over in russia to take some useless scythian town.... that's when I started the civil war
That only happens when the Senate hates you
The senate has decided that your faction doesn't deserve any senate positions.
SPQR: 1 settlement
Scipii: 3 settlements
Brutii: 6 settlements
Julii: 35 settlements
Are you sure you want to get on my bad side? Because I think it's you that doesn't deserve any senate positions.
For anyone wondering I think the Scipii bugged after taking Syracuse, they never even took Lilybaeum and I beat the Brutii to most of Greece
You have to stagger out conquests more and not miss missions.
The senate is probably threatened by you conquering so much so quickly. I think this can affect positions you get
A lot of times, I’ve noticed that if the Scipii attack Syracuse in the first five turns and lose that battle, their campaign never seems to recover. They spend the rest of time in futility trying to conquer the rest of Sicily and never even land in Africa by the time the Roman civil war starts.
The Julii and Brutii never face this problem. Even in a slow campaign start for them, they’ll have at least 20 settlements by the time the civil war starts.
so what happens when u take rome? is there an easier way to win the civil war or just conquer whatever they have? have only played the game twice so far :)@@BlueMatona
I’m glad to see you making these guides again. You’ve been very helpful to my younger self and now my older self.
Great Video. I always wondered why the Senate offices in RTW were not consistent with history.
They got the first 4 right, but there were really only 4 offices in the Senate. From lowest to Highest it was Quaestor, Aedile, Praetor, Consul.
Censor and Pontifex Maximus were government offices, but weren't really Senate Offices.
Pontifex Maximus wasn't the highest office in the Roman senate, Consul was. Pontifex Maximus was the highest ranking religious leader in the Roman state, and it was a Lifetime office. So once you're elected Pontifex Maximus, you held that title for the rest of your life.
Censor's did not out rank Consul, nor were they below Pontifex Maximus. They weren't even an Office in the Senate, but rather a government official responsible for keeping the count of the population, among other things.
Consul was the Highest office in the Senate and were the Leaders of the Roman Republic. There was always 2 Consuls at a time and They were effectively Kings in all but name, the head of state and government, and were allowed to wear a purple stripe in their Robe -- a color widely regarded as the color of Royalty by the Romans.
It's not actually true that the game hardcodes Roman Senate unpopularity as Pleb pop is high. I have 10/10 with people, but paying tribute to Senate and completing missions has kept up a top Senate rating as high as 8/10.
I never used to bother with this in game but tried to improve play, interferring with other factions, eg) Brutii enemies have had discrete subs through make gift and so on.
For once I'm aquiring high offices which help manage cities
Never thought to use money that way! I'm trying to play a loyal to the Senate Scipii game. Thanks for the strategy.
ty for making this
Ty for watching it!
I love how most of us probably watched videos like these as kids and still watch it now as adults
How are you able to make this without saying "cursus honorum"?
Нихуя не понятно,но очень интересно
To those who watches this on 2022, welcome
I've only managed to get 1 family member to pontifex maximus, but that's mostly bc he lived to the ripe old age of 80 somehow. Other than him I've never seen someone live past 68 in my campaigns. Outlived his sons they all died late 50's.
The 2nd son of my first faction leader is 74, while his cousin leads the faction, and will probably die first. I once had a diplomat reaching 73 too
My Faction leader of Julii lived until 94 years old! He took all the senate positions and died peacefully in Segesta.
I had a Seleucid leader live til like 102 and no one matched him lol
Amazing tutorials Blue!! I would like to see a diplomacy tutorial , I mean how diplomacy works in game
One thing I know is that you can demand money from the other Roman factions with your Diplomats. This pays out pretty well & often!
@@josephzanes7334 I got a good tactic. Basically you tell your enemy not to attack you, and then threaten to attack them if they refuse!
Popularity doesn't matter. I had 10/10 as julii, Scipii and brutii were at 6/10 yet they got 3 positions together, I got none.
You need to get the True Roman Trait and the Roman Authoritarian Trait. those can help
tyvm but still confusing
(laughs in barbarian)
Footnote: None of this is remotely historically accurate except in some very vague symbolic sense. Also Pontifex Maximus was not that big of an office.
Billy Hatzi But kinda influential and of Symbolic value so it’s ok i guess
Pontifex Maximus was significant, maybe not bigger than Consul, but the advantage is that the Pontifex Maximus position is for life, whereas Consuls had term limits. In particular Julius Caeser was Pontifex Maximus and he used his religious authority to influence some political movements: check out Historia Civilis' video: ua-cam.com/video/NcCtiX-VuWA/v-deo.html
@@Qladstone Great stuff. I've gone through them. About the station though; Is it a fairly useful political asset? You bet. Is it the top dog position? Not remotely so.
Can you take Rome without starting a civil war?
hellhound l no
Maybe letting another faction take Rome and then you can reconquer it
@@TakumaKunTakuma-San15-9 oh my GOD that would be some political maneuvering.
Haven't played in 10 years and I just got back into the game so I was hoping to learn some new things on youtube. This video did not disappoint with tons of new tricks and a great explanation of this mechanic that i didn't know much about. Looking forward to checking out more of your content!
One thing I've noticed is the Senate favors you most if you are playing the Brutii faction. Your senate missions will help you expand into the area you want to go, so you don't really have to go out of your way to complete a mission.
Second-best is the Scipii faction. And least favored is the Julii faction. If you are Julii, you will sometimes get some useful missions, but you will also get the mission to blockade Sparta (for the Brutii I guess), so you have to send your navy, if you have one close enough, a few turns away to accomplish the mission.
All of the missions in the game help the beginner, so you will get missions to take small and weak rebel cities first. But taking the big cities is the real way to expand in the game.
I know it's been a long time but I don't remember this being a part of it. Probably would have made the campaign easier haha
That button above the “graph “ , I don’t have that one button where you can see all settlements , army’s and agents . Anyone know why ?
This makes so much sense, I was wondering why I never got the faction leader suicide thing
I study more for how to create a stable empire before i create the new game more then I do for school
The senate and the Papal States, in my opinion, are the most annoying factions.
Pontifex Maximus is one of the Titles of the Pope
Specific treats also increase thé chance of being elected
Ah shoot true. I just added that in as a card at 3:19
@@BlueMatona great video btw, I've never really looked to the senate, so this is really interesting 🙂
This is the only source of this info... thanks a lot
Could you upload a video on how to implement the 4 turns per year mod?
Build a legion every time he says senate
Hello, Nie to gry factions "SENATE"?
The answer is - don't bother. It matters so little, and you'll probably win the game long before you even get to those top tiers.
I’ve gone ultra aggressive and done everything the Senate wanted and been passed over every time for Senate positions. What is the highest senate office anyone has managed to get? I honestly wonder if the hard coding makes it impossible to get into position s. Other factions were not even doing anything worthwhile and they get two three offices. What is the deal?
The thing is senators can be elected to a same office more than once, so you need to use assassins to improve your family members(fm) chances. Senate missions are only a small number of actions that can improve your fm chances to be elected to a senate office. There are also a lot of other little things to do to get a useful traits and retinues. If your most influential fm is a governor, make sure to set tax rate to very high, build law temples, academies and train military units in a city he rules. The one interesting way to gain a useful political trait for the governor is to construct an arena in a city and never arrange games. Make sure you don't have more than 50k denarii left at the end of each turn. If your most influential fm is a faction leader every diplomacy success, even bribery, improves his political traits, so does successful assassinations/sabotage and spying attemts. You also receive a useful political trait for your faction leader after destroying an enemy faction. If your most influential fm is an army general, you have a high chance of receiving military tribune retinue and true roman trait after killing many enemy soldiers in a battle with your general unit and a 100% chance of getting good political trait after capturing a wonder.
I got Pontifex maximus once (I only played 1 its still going on)
The Western Imperial version of Kama Sutra
by pure coincidence I made a civil war in line 100Bc xDD