Growing an Alphonso Mango Seedling, Days 0-136
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- I bought an Alphonso mango seedling from an exotic plant nursery. The first 4 months were tough. I transplanted into coco coir in a 5-gallon pot, sprayed pesticide/fungicide, and used craft wire to prop up the plant after it fell over one day from the weight of its own foliage.
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Dude. I watched every single one of your mango videos!!! Can't wait to see your mangos flower!!
Thanks for watching Edwin!
@@TheMelvinWei where is this series now?
Once again, top notch video mate!
Thank you!
I am from India and Alphonso is one of the delicious mango variety and most common too. Good luck ! Keep us posted.
All of your plants look really great now! Something that could help your mango to not fall over is to help it to branch out. New branches thicken up the trunk, which should make your mango more stable. If it doesn't do it by itself, then you can prune the top off the top (just the top). That should normally cause your mango to send out multiple shoots near the cut and if you let them develop for a few months, then you should be able to see some results. Wind also does thicken up the trunk.
This the first time I had a mango seedling get this far, and the first time I had one fall over. I thought the third set of leaves dying was akin to a prune but I guess not. The cuttings I've grown tend to branch out prolifically. My surviving papaya seeding has the thickest trunk of any plant I've ever grown.
Hi Melvin, where did you buy your mango (in California)?, we cannot order out of state.
The real question is if Alphonso, and other cultivars are actually true to seed? I bought an Alphonso seedling from Etsy. Most people say if you want that exact fruit, a graft from the mother tree is the only way. Then again, I've heard mangos can be either mono or polyembryonic. Can anyone confirm?
Just now seeing this comment. If the mango seed is monoembryonic, then there's like a 95-ish% chance that the tree won't come true from seed. You do generally need to graft to propagate a monoembryonic mango. Now the tree will eventually flower - but hard to say what the fruit will actually taste like. Probably something like a 95% chance it won't be like the mother tree, as I mentioned.
Hi Melvin, where is the location of Exotic plant nursery in your area, I live in Lakewood next to Long Beach area. Do you have many tropical fruit trees in your property, I have mangos, longans, Lychee, guava, thanks.
Exotica in Vista, California. I don't have land so I don't have many fruit trees growing at any given time.
I appreciate your videos, especially the methodical way you approach things. You know this by now, but in case someone else tries to grow a tree in coco coir - The mango tipped over not because it was top heavy, but it was bottom-light. Soil provides water, gas exchange, structure, and nutrients (in approximate order). Coco coir has no weight, so it could not anchor the tree. It's enough to anchor a vegetable seed, but not a mango seedling. Gary Matsuoka's (see his videos) Top Pot is a good mango growing medium.
Thanks but it keeps tipping over without support because the trunk is floppy. It's true that the root system in underdeveloped but the trunk no matter how thick never gets hard and stiff.
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Can you drop the link for the gardening pots? Thanks!
I can't add links but search for this on Amazon: Ogrmar 5PCS Gallon Durable Nursery Pot/Garden Planter Pots/Nursery Plant Container with 5PCS Pallet (3 Gallon).
Wnat happened to the jack fruit? My last one just died. All is not lost, my wife just bought one. I will start the seeds again. The last ones did ptetty good before they died. I had them in a plastic tent. This time I will pay attention to soil pH. How many of your trees have yielded fruit? I have four apple trees from seed , no fruit yet. I only count the grow series successful after fruit is produced. Pomegranate tree a successful grow series. Three trees all have fruit. They were air layered
idk what I did or if I have a green thumb but my manila mango grown from seed,I got the actual mango at the swap meet lol, its 3 years old and it’s thriving in my native soil here in the zone 9b in so cal I live 10 min away from the coast I usually fertilize it with Pennington citrus fertilizer every 3 months and add manure and for the bottom I added some rocks that soak up heat during the day and help the soil get warm and during the night they stay warm and added cedar mulch as well it’s trunk is pretty thick like a expo pen and it’s hooked up to irrigation and i’ve never had problems ! I saw your other vids as well maybe you need some native soil and you’ll be fine!
Hi! Is this mango tree still alive? If it is, I think a lot of people would love to see it!
It looks like the mango plants are in the sun to long. It may be a good idea to give them less sun until the root system is more established.
You could also use a sun shade to reduce the amount of the suns energy the leaves are receiving.
That can cause transplant shock though, especially when he wants to put it back into the full sun.
I think it's doing okay now, probably due to expanding its root system in the coco coir weeks after the transplant. It was really struggling for the first 2 or so months due to full sun exposure, that's for sure. The root system also came underdeveloped from the nursery, which was a surprise.
Just a guess but the reason this does't have a tap root is because it was likely grown from a cutting. When you grow from seed you get that big taproot. This is probably better though because the tap root needs like 10 feet to grow and when it dies the plant dies in my experience.
I think you're right. The stem is thick now but can't support its own weight, not something that happens to seed-grown fruit trees. I could have sworn I was told this was grown from seed at the nursery though.
@@TheMelvinWei I've been following your mango experience and personally have failed several times do to the tap root issue. Most recently frost killed my tree though that I put outside. Does it look like a segment of it is grafted? Also I've heard miracle grow floods the plant with too much nitrogen and causes that issue. I don't know if I believe that as I use miracle grow all the time.
@@someguy85507 I'm certain that mine is a cutting. It's not grafted. No plant could survive in the wild falling over and dragging on the ground after it gets beyond two feet tall unless it's a vine. All three of my 2022 nursery plants aren't growing straight. All cuttings.
@@someguy85507 Miracle-Gro has pros and cons but it doesn't seem to be a big problem for me. Right now it's been raining a lot in California so my plants aren't doing well in the wet and cold of winter, except my lemon sapling which no longer has to deal with caterpillars.
Did you buy this mango seedling from Exotica nursery in San Diego ??
Yes
I called them up recently. I can’t believe they are charging $40 for the same seedling that you bought for $25 just one month ago. Talk about price gouging. You would think you are paying for gasoline.
@@kingcobra3883 I got a discount for buying 3 cuttings/seedlings that day too. That's a big price hike, I bought those 3 on 2022/4/30.
Hi Melvin. I wanted to ask a quick question how to sprout my Mango tree. I have kept it inside a plastic transparent box and sprayed water on it. I kept it in cool, shady place for 5 days but it doesn't show any sign of rooting. Maybe the problem is that the Mango has only tiny spots of the white (later on green) stuff on it? I will try to put it straight to soil if it will not work, then i don't know anymore.
watch some of his other mango series because they are from seed
5 days is not a long time though. If you look at my many germinating from seed series inside plastic containers, I forgot the exact timing but it may depend on how mature the mango seed is inside the fruit before you cut it out/how ripe the fruit is.
@@TheMelvinWei Hey Melvin, so it's been over 3 weeks since i wrote this comment but still noting. I decided to take it out of the container and i actually saw a root but it is black and only very, but VERY tiny (I'd say micro). Is it dead?
@@stanosibi7595 I think you should start over with new seeds. Look for the healthiest, whitest, largest seeds you can find with no black or brown discoloration. Three weeks is far too long. What temperature did you germinate at? Is the seed getting enough moisture/against plastic or paper products that are damp enough? Also are the conditions sterile (I sprayed hydrogen peroxide).
@@TheMelvinWei I germinated it at around 65 fahrenheit, i added average amount of water so i would say so and i didnt use anything like hydrogen peroxide. I think that was the problem. Ill start new seeds soon and i hope that your mango tree is doing better!
my mango seedling died i have no mango trees grown from seed that is healthy
Mangos are the toughest to grow. The seedlings are so prone to rot and fungal infections. Everything likes to eat mango plants too.
@@TheMelvinWei well at least i have some healthy avocado trees grown from seed
@@TheMelvinWei That sounds pretty horrible. That sounds like a simple cut/wound in that plant can be pretty scary for the whole mango.
I don't know about physical wounds but I lost many seedlings to root rot transplanting pristine well-developed germinated seeds into potting mix and they died within days. This current one had powdery mildew on the new section of stem for so long before it went away.
Avocado starts off much better than mango but also seems to hit a wall later on for many people (many have said this). There is another plant growing UA-camr who grew one to maybe 12 or 13 feet tall and had to take it into a greenhouse for the winter. Eventually he lost it to frost. Most people say their avocado seedlings get to maybe 2-3 feet and then die. My last one got to around 4 feet tall I think.
alphonso is definitely not the best tasting mango in the world! that title goes to the australian Kensington Pride mango
I'll keep an eye out for that in the future. In California we only have Mexican or Peruvian mangos to eat, they are not good in many cases, often too fibrous.
@@TheMelvinWei i believe it’s sold as “Australian Mango” in most parts of the world, if border forces weren’t so strict id send you some!
This is not alphonso this is HAPUS