all these freshmen in the comments section claiming to play this piece perfectly make me feel like trash. senior student here and I couldn't play this if my life depended on it...
Wow. I never knew how difficult clarinet all-state music was until now. I mean, I'm from Mississippi, gonna try out for Lions Band for the 2nd time this year, but it's surprising how complex their etudes are. All-State clarinets have my respect.
I'm a freshmen we had a chair test in Wind Ensemble our highest band I got moved down from 5th to 6th chair because our director chose upper classmen over me because they have more experience
@Odessey314. For some reason I can't reply to either of your comments. To answer your question, I would practice both ways but I think it's unlikely that you will take it.
i am a freshman and i made region band last year. These etudes are somewhat difficult but as soon as you go in depth with it... its not that hard. (The rhythms and notes)
+Eric Chi any tips on how to switch fast?like from an a to a b(with the two pinkys)I'm having problems on that since I'm a 7th grader.I'd appreciate your helps and tips!
Kk Kk The problem is usually your left hand index finger when you finger A. You should hit the A key with your knuckle and not the fleshy part of your finger. A good exercise is to play B and open the A key at the same time. This will teach you the proper way to open the A key.
Unfortunately, this is a Rode etude not a Rose etude. As far I know, there aren't any public domain copies of this etude. You can buy the book here: www.amazon.com/Artistic-Studies-Book-French-School/dp/158106053X Most band directions will provide copies as well.
Hello! So on measure 34, the second group of 16th notes threw me off. I finger Eb with the right hand, Ab with left, C with right, and then Eb with right as well, which forces a blip. Any tips?
There are a couple of ways to do it. I pivot C, which means you land on the right but quickly go to the left freeing up your right pinky to go to be. Basically R-L. The other thing you can do is slide from Ab to C on the left. I don't usually recommend sliding but you can try it. This slide in particular has a low rate of success for me.
Thank you so much for your quick and comprehensive reply!! I will use the pivoting method from now on. Also, you are one of the best clarinet players I have ever heard tone and technique-wise...simply amazing!!!
UA-cam used to have an option to play videos at half speed. I greatly discourage you from trying to play along with recordings. A metronome and your ears will help you the most.
At spots like mm. 13 and 23, it sounded like you slurred all of the notes. My lesson teacher and I were wondering about the strange articulation marked. On the TMEA website it says " when performing articulation a under a slur, use the syllable 'dah'. I would suggest using the syllable 'Tah' or 'tut' for all other articulated notes that are not under a slur". Which way do you think the judges would prefer, all slurred or articulated? I've been practicing articulating and that's what I'm going to do at all-region orchestra auditions next Tuesday, but I want to be sure before region auditions in December. Thanks!
It's really a bad marking. If you look at measures 3, 13, 23-25 there are conflicting markings. Accents under a slur do not mean articulation, the composer would have written dots if they wanted articulation. Accents can be done underneath a slur simply by blowing harder. Having said that, I think if you tongue 23-25, you need to tongue 3 and 13 as well. It really must be said that if you play it clean and fast with a good sound it really doesn't matter.
+Eric Chi OK, I'll mention that to my teacher, thanks! Also, she has been having her students play the repeat at mm. 45, but I noticed you didn't. The TMEA didn't mention anything about that... I used to practice without the repeat but now because of my teacher I do play it. What do you think?
Chloe Muñoz I have never had a student play a repeat in these auditions ever. Your area may be different but most judges don't want to waste time listening to the same material again. Practice it, but it's highly unlikely that you will play it.
Sam Good point. I think it works better if you are only playing half of the etude. Typically you don't hit the end of a major cadence. There's also the fact that I made this very quickly this year and didn't have time to do multiple takes. You are correct though.
Hello, I'm one of those crazy Oklahoma kids you hear "talk" of. Now, I highly doubt that this etude would be found in Voxman or Rubank. Does one happen to know the studies book from which this is found? Stark or Rose? Thanks.
It's actually a Rode Caprice that Rose transcribed for clarinet. You can find it in the Artistic Studies Book or the Rose 20 Grand Studies. They are available here: www.amazon.com/Artistic-Studies-Book-French-School/dp/158106053X www.amazon.com/Rose-Studies-Selected-Caprices-Clarinet/dp/B00F5GDOTI
I have a question. Since the turn at measure 20 is supposed to turn to a B flat but sounds better on a B natural is it considered an errata even though TMEA did not report it as such?
hi Eric Chi! I hope you're doing well, but I have a problem playing those f's. I've tried using both of my known fingerings, but they both sound lower than the E I play before it. Do you know what's going on and what to do to get around this? thanks!
I assume you are talking about the High Fs. That note really relies on the player having a strong set of fundamentals. Proper embouchure combined with a good idea of voicing is what you need. Sorry, but there's no quick fix for that problem. If it's flat, the back of your tongue is probably too low and your embouchure is not firm enough. Make sure you are playing a reed that is hard enough as well.
It could be many different things. Make sure you don't move your embouchure when you play. The position of the tongue is also crucial. Typically when you squeak, your tongue is in the wrong voicing position.
I am asking because you seemed to have played the quarter-note tied to the sixteenth-note as if it was a quarter-note tied to an eighth-note instead. I was asking if we were supposed to do so too.
Practice with a metronome, by yourself, everyday. If it's not better then when you started, you didn't practice. I would highly advise ambitious students to seek out a teacher. If your fundamentals aren't good, there's only so far you can go.
Make sure you add the right hand Eb key. If it's still low, the back of your tongue is probably not high enough. Make sure your corners stay firm as well.
In my experience, the vast majority of students do not posses a proper staccato. There needs to be clear definition between the notes. As long as the judges can tell that it's articulate, you should be fine.
Eric Chi I can't play the six doublets correct and smooth. My teacher recommended to say "triplet triplet" in my head, but even then it didn't help me. Have any recommendations for me please?
This may sound complicated but I'll try to be as clear as I can.There are two options for how to practice this. 1.)Play it as two sets of triplets. Practice going from one set to the next. For example, in the beginning, practice stopping starting on C and stopping on E. They start on E and stop on A. Then do the two together. You can chain the whole thing like this. 2.)Practice it like eighth notes. Instead of 2 sets of triplets, you can practice it like 3 sets of eighth notes. If you can speed up the 3 sets, eventually you can start to feel them as a sextuplet. Understand that you are playing the measures out of context when you practice them as eighths. I find most of my students prefer the second option vs the first.
I play it all slurred. There are two contradicting marks over it. I prefer it slurred and I imagine most students do as well. If you play the articulations, make sure you tongue the entire second half of the measure.
I'm a Freshman in highschool and I'm confident in saying I will make one of the Region, All-State, and/or Orchestra bands this year because these etudes are easy (:
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good luck clarinets 2021-22 we will be playing this one but im sure eric will post it again later, i just cant wait to start practicing it now :)
Heck yeah!
im barely able to get through 6 measures-
all these freshmen in the comments section claiming to play this piece perfectly make me feel like trash. senior student here and I couldn't play this if my life depended on it...
Any freshman claiming to play this perfectly is wrong. No way anyone has mastered all the rhythms, dynamics, articulation patterns etc yet lol.
Wow seriously? That actually makes me feel a lot better about myself then.
lol sorry but I can
luis salgado My junior friend almost made state she only made area sadly.
Better than I could ever do...
Wow. I never knew how difficult clarinet all-state music was until now. I mean, I'm from Mississippi, gonna try out for Lions Band for the 2nd time this year, but it's surprising how complex their etudes are. All-State clarinets have my respect.
You've made my season so much easier! Thanks for all that you do!
I'm a senior in high school and this is by far my favorite etude out of all four years :)
geekalik same
I'm a freshmen we had a chair test in Wind Ensemble our highest band I got moved down from 5th to 6th chair because our director chose upper classmen over me because they have more experience
QuantumChris my freshman year I was first chair by Christmas because my director goes by skill, techniques, and tone. Now seniority.
Not*
I wish mine would do that...
Omg I loved this piece to bad my thumb rest broke when I played it at area but I'm grateful I still made state as a sophomore
@Odessey314. For some reason I can't reply to either of your comments. To answer your question, I would practice both ways but I think it's unlikely that you will take it.
i am a freshman and i made region band last year. These etudes are somewhat difficult but as soon as you go in depth with it... its not that hard. (The rhythms and notes)
Is this the same etude for this year
Yep
Unfortunately
Guess who’s not going to all region, me :(
getting ready for 6a auditions Tuesday, thanks again for the recording
30-40 was the death of me my freshman year
now it’s gonna be the death of me junior year 😟
Thanks
Do you have any tips on how to get the high notes on the e flat clarinet to speak better? Thanks!
Justin Honea Equipment matters. You need to play a sufficiently hard enough reed for high notes to work. Make sure you take enough mouthpiece as well.
+Eric Chi any tips on how to switch fast?like from an a to a b(with the two pinkys)I'm having problems on that since I'm a 7th grader.I'd appreciate your helps and tips!
Kk Kk The problem is usually your left hand index finger when you finger A. You should hit the A key with your knuckle and not the fleshy part of your finger. A good exercise is to play B and open the A key at the same time. This will teach you the proper way to open the A key.
where could i get a free pdf of this piece?
Unfortunately, this is a Rode etude not a Rose etude. As far I know, there aren't any public domain copies of this etude. You can buy the book here: www.amazon.com/Artistic-Studies-Book-French-School/dp/158106053X
Most band directions will provide copies as well.
it's okay i bought the book thanks anyways.
+Sec Rt can u send me the link?
Hello! So on measure 34, the second group of 16th notes threw me off.
I finger Eb with the right hand, Ab with left, C with right, and then Eb with right as well, which forces a blip.
Any tips?
There are a couple of ways to do it. I pivot C, which means you land on the right but quickly go to the left freeing up your right pinky to go to be. Basically R-L. The other thing you can do is slide from Ab to C on the left. I don't usually recommend sliding but you can try it. This slide in particular has a low rate of success for me.
Thank you so much for your quick and comprehensive reply!! I will use the pivoting method from now on. Also, you are one of the best clarinet players I have ever heard tone and technique-wise...simply amazing!!!
That's very kind of you. Thanks.
@ericchi Could you maybe do a half tempo one to play with? thatd be great
UA-cam used to have an option to play videos at half speed. I greatly discourage you from trying to play along with recordings. A metronome and your ears will help you the most.
Alright thanks.
At spots like mm. 13 and 23, it sounded like you slurred all of the notes. My lesson teacher and I were wondering about the strange articulation marked. On the TMEA website it says " when performing articulation a under a slur, use the syllable 'dah'. I would suggest using the syllable 'Tah' or 'tut' for all other articulated notes that are not under a slur". Which way do you think the judges would prefer, all slurred or articulated? I've been practicing articulating and that's what I'm going to do at all-region orchestra auditions next Tuesday, but I want to be sure before region auditions in December. Thanks!
It's really a bad marking. If you look at measures 3, 13, 23-25 there are conflicting markings. Accents under a slur do not mean articulation, the composer would have written dots if they wanted articulation. Accents can be done underneath a slur simply by blowing harder. Having said that, I think if you tongue 23-25, you need to tongue 3 and 13 as well.
It really must be said that if you play it clean and fast with a good sound it really doesn't matter.
+Eric Chi OK, I'll mention that to my teacher, thanks! Also, she has been having her students play the repeat at mm. 45, but I noticed you didn't. The TMEA didn't mention anything about that... I used to practice without the repeat but now because of my teacher I do play it. What do you think?
Chloe Muñoz I have never had a student play a repeat in these auditions ever. Your area may be different but most judges don't want to waste time listening to the same material again. Practice it, but it's highly unlikely that you will play it.
+Eric Chi OK, thank you so much!!!
How come at the end you do a rit. When it says "poco piu Mosso" which means a little more motion
Sam Good point. I think it works better if you are only playing half of the etude. Typically you don't hit the end of a major cadence. There's also the fact that I made this very quickly this year and didn't have time to do multiple takes. You are correct though.
Hello,
I'm one of those crazy Oklahoma kids you hear "talk" of. Now, I highly doubt that this etude would be found in Voxman or Rubank. Does one happen to know the studies book from which this is found? Stark or Rose? Thanks.
It's actually a Rode Caprice that Rose transcribed for clarinet. You can find it in the Artistic Studies Book or the Rose 20 Grand Studies. They are available here:
www.amazon.com/Artistic-Studies-Book-French-School/dp/158106053X
www.amazon.com/Rose-Studies-Selected-Caprices-Clarinet/dp/B00F5GDOTI
Eric Chi Thank you very much. Excellent playing by the way. Very controlled tone and brilliant technical accuracy.
Thanks!
I have a question. Since the turn at measure 20 is supposed to turn to a B flat but sounds better on a B natural is it considered an errata even though TMEA did not report it as such?
The turn is supposed to be a B natural. I have already sent the error to TMEA. I hope they will release a revised errata soon.
Thank you for the quick response. I hope TMEA announces it sometime soon.
How is it supposed to be a B flat?
hi Eric Chi! I hope you're doing well, but I have a problem playing those f's. I've tried using both of my known fingerings, but they both sound lower than the E I play before it. Do you know what's going on and what to do to get around this? thanks!
also, how do you combat squeaking?
I assume you are talking about the High Fs. That note really relies on the player having a strong set of fundamentals. Proper embouchure combined with a good idea of voicing is what you need. Sorry, but there's no quick fix for that problem. If it's flat, the back of your tongue is probably too low and your embouchure is not firm enough. Make sure you are playing a reed that is hard enough as well.
It could be many different things. Make sure you don't move your embouchure when you play. The position of the tongue is also crucial. Typically when you squeak, your tongue is in the wrong voicing position.
Thanks a lot for your advice, Mr. Chi! I've been able to play the high F's now and mostly eliminate squeaking.
I measure 5, are we supposed to hold the quarter note B-flat slightly longer than its actual value?
It's a quarter note tied to a sixteenth. Play it as printed.
I am asking because you seemed to have played the quarter-note tied to the sixteenth-note as if it was a quarter-note tied to an eighth-note instead. I was asking if we were supposed to do so too.
I'm happy to take criticism, but in this case you are incorrect. I play a quarter tied to a sixteenth in bar 5.
Do you have any tips for people practicing the etudes this year?
Practice with a metronome, by yourself, everyday. If it's not better then when you started, you didn't practice. I would highly advise ambitious students to seek out a teacher. If your fundamentals aren't good, there's only so far you can go.
+Eric Chi Alrighty, thank you!
How do I do the turn in measure 11?
I play 4 32nd notes on the upbeat of beat 3. Notes are G, F, E, F.
What do I do if the high F is flat?
Make sure you add the right hand Eb key. If it's still low, the back of your tongue is probably not high enough. Make sure your corners stay firm as well.
+Eric Chi thanks!
For the sixteenths with no articulation marking, are you playing them legato or a little shorter?
I err on the shorter side.
+Eric Chi Which articulation do you think the judges would prefer?
In my experience, the vast majority of students do not posses a proper staccato. There needs to be clear definition between the notes. As long as the judges can tell that it's articulate, you should be fine.
+Eric Chi Thank you so much. Amazing technique and tone, by the way.
Thanks.
what do you use to record yourself?
A Blue Yeti Microphone. Audacity is the software.
Help me fix at measure 6 I need your help @EricChi
What's the problem?
Eric Chi I can't play the six doublets correct and smooth. My teacher recommended to say "triplet triplet" in my head, but even then it didn't help me. Have any recommendations for me please?
This may sound complicated but I'll try to be as clear as I can.There are two options for how to practice this.
1.)Play it as two sets of triplets. Practice going from one set to the next. For example, in the beginning, practice stopping starting on C and stopping on E. They start on E and stop on A. Then do the two together. You can chain the whole thing like this.
2.)Practice it like eighth notes. Instead of 2 sets of triplets, you can practice it like 3 sets of eighth notes. If you can speed up the 3 sets, eventually you can start to feel them as a sextuplet. Understand that you are playing the measures out of context when you practice them as eighths.
I find most of my students prefer the second option vs the first.
And you so much Eric Chi, it helped me out.
Is measure 13 supposed to be all slured? or...?
I play it all slurred. There are two contradicting marks over it. I prefer it slurred and I imagine most students do as well. If you play the articulations, make sure you tongue the entire second half of the measure.
Don't you have to take the repeats?
It's up to the judges in your particular region/area. In my experience, repeats have never been taken in auditions.
My band directors say we have to take repeats so I was just curious
I'm a Freshman in highschool and I'm confident in saying I will make one of the Region, All-State, and/or Orchestra bands this year because these etudes are easy (:
+Odyssey314 No i can play full tempo
can you post a recording of your self I would like to hear your fantastic playing :)?
HAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahh savage
Isaiah Knight I may be a bit late on this. But my friend was the only freshman at orchestra. So I doubt you went.
is there a video of you playing the rest from m 50-96 (end)?
Adrian yamato No, I made this recording specifically for TMEA.