Are They Junk? Dewalt Battery Chainsaws. Buyers Guide. Dewalt 60V 14" Top Handle Chainsaw
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Should you buy a Dewalt Battery / Electric chainsaw? I'll tell you!
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Dewalt 60v 14" Top Handle chainsaw - Наука та технологія
Do you have any of these saws? What do you think about them?
Check out the video of cutting down this tree with the 60v 20" saw with the junk knock off chain from Odddupoplouppolu from Amazon.
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EDIT: Oppoduooppoluluo (opuladuo) sent me 2 chains for the 60v 20" after I contacted customer service which were also incorrect, I explained to them exactly what they needed for chain specs and today they sent me 2 more which are correct. So if you're looking for cheap replacement chains, opuloloolpuoulodou is probably not as bad as they were before. Easy to find at least, easier to find on amazon than an actual replacement chain from Dewalt.
Dude I really appreciate these videos. I've been looking for someone to give some info on the dewalt top handle. I want something to hang off the side of my chipper that I can use with 1 hand to cut bigger limbs down before they go in the chipper. It doesn't shut off automatically, does it? I wanna just be able to grab it and cut. I already have the 20v. It's fine for my kids to learn with but I wouldn't use it all day. BTW, those 572s do alot better when you don't dog them in. The power brand on them is in the top end and pretty narrow. I'm hoping they come out with a 572mk2 with a wider power band like they did with the 562.
@canuck7268 the top handle does shut off after a minute or so but the button to turn it back on is right there where your thumb is so it's not a big deal. I'd say get one. Definitely my favorite saw.
Dewalt DCMCS575N XR 54V FlexVolt Cordless Chainsaw 50cmlove it I have 2 15ah batteries love it and it's 0.050 guage I use mine outside all the time ur talking cr........ stick with your gas
I think your 60v version is a 0.043 50cm I do know my uk version 54v is 0.050 the chains are easy in uk DeWalt DT20690-QZ and it is actually a oragon chain 68 links 3/8th lp 0.050 semi chisel 91px068x oragon 50cm hope this helps uk owners
Mine oils fine you need synthetic oil as per manual
Good video. Yes, the 54v and 60v batteries are identical internally, just marketing differences. 15 cells in series at 4.0v resting voltage = 60v. 15 at 3.6v under load = 54 volts. Same with 18v vs 20v tools.
You said that so much better than I did.
I bought the 60v 16in and put an 18in Oregon bar on itkme 4 yrs ago. Ive never had an issue with it ever. They're electric, so they dont have the duty cycle a gas saw has. But for avg joes and weekend warriors who need a chain saw every once in a while, theyre fantastic. If i was a professional arborist i would have gas saws tho.
I have the 12", 20V and like the rest it leaks (I love this little saw!). Rather than fix it DeWalt has come out with the following:
Use an O-ring on the oil cap:
1. Remove the oil cap completely from the chainsaw.
2. Use a 5/8 or 3/4 o-ring and put it into the indentation of the cap. You might need some pliers to stretch the o-ring.
3. Once it fits perfectly into the indentation, lubricate it a little bit with some oil and put the cap back onto the chainsaw.
I just did this, so far no more leaking! Time will tell if it totally resolves the issue.
I was between the 500mm and the Greenworks 60V 20" saw. Went with the GW. I have a video up of me going through some 30" wide dry maple and I can't stall it or overheat it. They have very big air channels in the battery compartment. Captive nuts too.
I have the 12" , love it. 8" pruning saw is really handy. Also got the 8" 20v polesaw - works great too.
The little 8" pruning saw works well. That's where these electric saws need to stay, light weight and handy not power for bucking fire wood.
I had the same problem with the oiler on the little 8" pruning saw. The oilers just don't work like a conventional gas saw it's either nothing or gushing oil everywhere.
bought the dewalt 12 few years back first thing i did was put a 16 bar on it perfect for limbs and brush and firewood. I also own a huskey rancher again put a 20 on that never let me down on ANYTHING. own a Craftsman pole saw v20 that i converted to run dewalt batteries light weight but kind of 2 small for bigger limbs.I find oregon has the best selection for chains out there .TYVM for the video keep them coming Ride safe and stay healthy
I have the dewalt 16" 60v saw and love it. The shorter bar makes sure I'm not gonna do anything stupid with it and I don't have to deal with bad gas I left in a gas chainsaw. I'm not a professional though.
What a shame...my 16 inch version never stops like that when using it heavy with my 9ah ..it has to be something with the 20 inch bar setup..Dewalt must have tried to tweak something like chain speed...I would love to see you swap bars and see if it makes a difference
Thanks for this video !
Iv got the 12" and the 20" and this is my experience as well, love the 12. The 20 over heats the batteries 6 cuts in every time
The two M18 top handle saws I have had also overheat the batteries once they reach two bars left.
That's interesting. Are you doing firewood cuts with them when they overheat or just general limbing?
With the Top Handle Dewalt the batteries do not overheat when doing limbing/pruning cuts even at low battery.
@@Bearbait01 Just trail maintenance, so generally 2-3 cuts, then a 5-10 min cooldown between trees. I admit that i do cut 12-14" trees with it, but still nothing it shouldn't be able to handle a few cuts in.
Because 18V is too low voltage for the chain speed on that Milwaukee...DeWalt's is slower. Milwaukee is too attached to low voltage. Try an Ego 56V chainsaw.
@@caseygina3553 I think you mean the torque is too much for the voltage. It has a pretty slow chain speed. My Husqvarna 540ixp with it's fan cooled battery is nearly perfect. High chain speed, though it could use more torque. Either way it's 36v over 18v.
I have the 16" Dewalt 60V saw and it does a good job. I use it to clear trails and cut wood for our campfires and I've never had it overheat a battery. I think Dewalt tried to up the battery draw too far in order to get it to push the 20" bar and that is causing the overheat issues. Personally, I think if you are doing a cutting job that needs a bar larger than 16", you probably need to be using a real gas powered logging saw.
I agree. I wanted to make sure in my review to show the saw overheating because many other reviewers only show the good and never show the downsides.
Did you end up finding a thinner bar oil that pairs well with your new 60v top handle's adjustable oiler?
I started using Oregon bar and chain oil after I watched a Project Farm video that seemed like the oregon oil was the all around best. Seems to work well. I really like it on the husky 572, does WAY WAY WAY BETTER than the Husqvarns X guard stuff. THAT STUFF SUCKS!
You should see the size of the trees I’ve topped with my old 200T,they’re the best.
The way you used the 60v chainsaw.. you should really use it with the 15Ah/5Ah bigger battery as it add more power to it and run cooler
I've actually heard that the bigger 15ah battery overheats faster than the smaller ah batteries. I have a 12ah battery that came with the saw, it overheats just as fast if not faster than the 9ah in this video did. I was actually surprised with how well it was cutting with the 9ah, I've had it overheat on me on 1 cut in a big log using the 12ah battery.
You could be right, from my experience it doesn't make a significant difference because the saw just isn't designed (properly) for cutting large logs.
The "12Ah" does overheat faster as it uses 21700 cells instead of 18650 in the "9Ah". But the "15Ah" uses 18650's and is the hardest Flexvolt battery to overheat as the work is distributed across the most cells.
DeWalt marketing shenanigans make the entire platform lineup a maze of twisty passages to try to understand. Take their current model circular saws - all the same design, size, and weight. Similar costs... The standard XR sucks. The PowerDetect sucks slightly less with high-Ah XR batteries, and still sucks just as bad with Flexvolts. The Flexvolt Advantage sucks slightly less with Flexvolt batteries but is just as bad with big XR batteries. The "60V" saw is amazing! One can waste a ton of cash learning the hard way.
@@caseygina3553 9ah one uses 21700, 9,12,8,6 and i believe 4 maybe, 15ah uses 18650
I got the 18 in and it rocks, I do keep 3 batteries if one starts to overheat I swap and let it cool off
Does it overheat as easily as mine does? Granted I was basically maxing out the 20" bar.
What I like about the least expensive DeWalt offering is that it comes with a chain-brake. What I despise about compact, battery-powered chainsaws from the budget brands out there is that they don't come with that feature. That is just insane to me!
I agree. Definitely a good feature for a saw that's only $150
Did you put a oregon 16 inch bar on that top handle saw ?
It's a 14in oregon bar.
Im on the fence between the 16inch dewalt or the top handle 12inch. What do you prefer?
Depends what you want it for, what your use case is. I personally don't really recommend either of them but if you must, the 12in 20v saw is good for small occasional jobs and the 60v with a 16" bar would be good for larger occasional jobs.
I think a used stihl ms250 is what you should be buying if you're in the market for either of these saws and don't care if it's electric or not.
I just got the 500mm only because I read it has a 3000w motor but now I got it its too big can I put a 400mm bar on it
You can if you find a bar that's compatible. If you bought the 20" saw you can put an 18" on it no problem. Not sure about the 16" but I bet it's compatible.
On the flexvolt stuff you were speaking of the 60v and 56v tools are actually both the same tools and voltage but the 56v is nominal voltage and the 60v is at its fully charged state is all to my understanding but I’m no expert
Pretty sure they just rounded up from 54 to 60 as a marketing gimmick. They're all 54 volt. Only America will let them get away with calling them 60v when they're actually 54v. I bet it's some stupid shit like that. Legal BS.
I reckon I could do a better hissy than this, but justified.😅
Just about go start out with my Dewalt 14" 54v journey, all the fun to come!
Nice video man
I have the Milwaukee 2826 22t it comes with a 12ah battery and a 8ah battery with a fast dueal charger 2 battery charger the sane time 2 battery charger in about 70min I get the 8ah battery of in 40 min it a beast cut a 7" log in 3 sec I was using hard on it 14" bar .043 gage with a .325 chain the rpm are 7,700 it fast ang got power you can push on it I got 2 40v and that little DCCS620 IT no comparison 2826 22t is a beast compared it to a Gas 180 stihl worm up th 180 got her all ready turn her of layed 2 of them on the ground my son an I said go grab up the saws the 2826-22t had a 6" log cut of before the stihl tuch the wood I cut it of wel he pulled the start string I can cut up a pick up load of small wood on 1 battery wood size 3" to 12" 10' long it got nice teat on the chain and she bites and you can push on her it a top handle I love it she is faster than Milwaukee 2727-20 16" that one got that little 3/8 mine chain RPM ON THAT ONE IS 6,600 THAT A Good saw to cut a lot of wood on a 12ah bat
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I think you took the rakers down a bit too much on the 12 inch, I never have problems with mine stopping so easy. I had the 18 for awhile, in my opinion it's too much for a 9ah. I had the 16 for a long time and the 18 came up for a decent price so I got it. All I have are 9ah batteries but I didn't like the 18 at all after having the 16. The other bummer (which makes sense) is that the larger the bar the lower the chain speed. It's super obvious going from the 16 to the 18. I think the 16 is the best
Hi @bearbait01 - thanks for the video. I'm from Denmark, I godt the small dewalt. My first chainsaw too, and I'm really happy about it. I could cut a ton of 3-4 inch hardwood tree just on 1 5Ah battery. I have also cut big logs up too 10-11 inches, It takes time yes, but its possible if you turn the saw up and down a but so u dont put too much work load on it. it leaks/uses oil as f**k like u mentioned, thats really the only disadvantage I woud say. In Denmark u could get a cheap gasoline saw for the same amout (like 200$) with a 14-15 inch sword, with a lot more power. But its a lot more noisey and heavyer to carry arround. it's the classic advantage/disadvantage petrol vs. eletrical eingine. more power, but also more maintenence. I'll consinder the small flexwolt at some point...
I’m not sure if it’s government related or just worldwide “DeWalt” brand but yes 18v & 54v are overseas and in the US they are 20v & 60v but are the exact same all around. Not sure why because every other brand keeps it the same worldwide. And overseas gets the new dewalt tools like 8+ months before the US
Interesting I didn't know that
would you get the 12" or 14" for just cutting firewood while camping? I want something I'm going to enjoy and that will last for years to come.
Depends how much you want to spend. That's the only factor I'd worry about. If you don't need speed get the 12" if you need speed and don't mind paying for speed get the 14".
I will tell you I never reach for the 12" for anything, It's the saw that I don't mind letting other people use also though because of how inexpensive it was. If you have kids and you want then to be able to help cutting wood get the 12", a kid won't be able to handle the 14".
I want the 60v dewalt chainsaw.... because it looks cool
I bought it for the memes
Why does no one evaluate the Kobalt 80-volt brushless 18" chainsaw with a 5-ah battery? - - I have (2) Kobalt 80-volt 18" Bar Chainsaws and use (2) 5 AH Batteries. Using it on a Southeast LA farm that was devastated by a Hurricane and has been working absolutely great even cutting huge logs and trees. For oil, I like to use Ryobi Bar and chain oil. We have cut 20"+_ logs and it works like a charm. And NO more pulling and pulling to start a gas-powered chainsaw. My first 80-volt 18" Bar Chain saw with a 5-AH Battery and charger was $400 in Jul 2021
Which bar did you go with specifically? You stay at .325?
On the top handle it's the same bar and chain you'd use for a t540xp. Still .325
Thanks dude. Keep up the reviews. You're the only one doing them still. @@Bearbait01
Love my Dewalt chainsaw
Think I'll be sticking with my Husky and Stihl smokers. hahaha I have had one of those little Dewalt pole saws for a while now. Love that little thing. Amazing what it'll cut and the runtime just on a 2ah battery is crazy. Work you to death with a 5ah battery. Well worth the $129 bucks it costed.
I got one of those too just for the hell of it. It's impressive but very heavy when you extend it all the way out.
Yeah that extension is ridiculous. Need some tightrope experience to plug that thing in! 🤣
I was doing creek restoration on a big pipeline job here in British Columbia,we pound a lot of wooden posts into the ground on the edge of creeks after they put the pipe in the ground to restore the creek edge. I bought the dewalt pruning saw for the job to cut the posts down and it worked awesome,it leaks a lot of bar oil but I got my 200$ worth of cutting out of it so I’m happy.
@@Whateva67 Got to be careful where you store them if you don't want oil everywhere. Can't say the chain isn't well lubed though. lol. I've abused the crap out of the one I've got and it just keeps on going. Def earned it's worth if it blows up tomorrow.
@@beebop9808 true,I don’t want it to die after only owning it a year but if it does,cest la vie. I have gas powered saws for the big stuff.
FlexVolt in the US are listed as 60V in the EU they’re labeled 54V as the actual nominal voltage is 54V. It’s much like the 20V tools are listed as 18V in the EU. The batteries are made up of 5 3.6V 18650 batteries in series with the option of 2-3 sets in parallel which is how they get to 56V/60V as then the batteries all just run in series, with the exception of the 15 Amp/Hr battery that has 30 cells in a 15S2P configuration.
The 20V and 60V nomenclature is pure marketing in the US as it was a way to differentiate the new, all lithium, battery line from the old 18V NiCad packs.
Oh that makes a lot of sense!
60v and 54v are the same saw. USA you can rate it at unloaded v Europe is loaded v
I figured it was something like that. 👍
well done
The problem with the 60V saw is too small of a battery. You really need a Flexvolt "15Ah" battery for it. That's only actually 5Ah at 54V, which DeWalt falsely advertises as "60V max" in the USA. That's still a pretty minimal size battery for that saw.
Buy yourself an Ego! Their 56V 20" saw comes with a 6Ah battery - bigger than DeWalt's biggest, and you can use up to a 12Ah battery for serious work. They also sell a backpack battery adapter so you can put the battery weight on your back and have a lighter tool in your hands. Standard Oregon 3/8" LP bar & chain.
I also have that DeWalt 18V ("20V") saw and that's a great light tool for small jobs. I'm excited to try the top handle "60V" saw which seems far better. But for a long bar and firewood processing, DeWalt's batteries are insufficient, and Ego is far better. Maybe they'll release a saw that uses their upcoming Powershift 60V battery (equivalent to a 9Ah Ego) eventually...
I thought these saws were junk at first. They Excel at the times you only need a few cuts. They also start and stop nearly instantly. One thing missed by many is how quiet they are. I got one to keep in my wood room for those pieces i just cut too long or numbs. I can cut at 4am and not piss off the neighborhood. If you use them for light work they are a good companion to have around. Every job doesn't require a logging saw. When it's time to pull wood out of the woods gas is still king. Just my observation. Just like cars there are advantages and disadvantages to both systems. Use the right tool for the right job.
That's a good take. Definitely really good for indoor work. They just need to get the battery overheating sorted out. 10 more years and they'll probably be better than gas 🤣
I really like the 2 smaller saws because they are inherently geared towards smaller, more manageable tasks for a battery saw.
@@Bearbait01 I got a Ridgid electric chainsaw. When it comes to mileage it really depends on the battery you use. It does what I expect it to. If you use it like I said It starts to make sense. I don't seem to be having over heating problems like your DeWalt ones. Maybe i haven't pushed mine enough? I'm a sample size of one tho. I agree with your assessment of the DeWalt with the long bar. The motor seems to be driving too much bar with that model. They got too ambitious at the design stage but it looks cool though.
@shanemartin92 In my mind, 20" bar should be able to handle 20" logs until the battery drains without overheating. They really went after speed instead of longevity which, their batteries are the limiting factor. Uniformity killed them here. Being able to use the same batteries in various tools really stifled the chainsaw. They would have been better off using a proprietary battery for the 60v 20" saw, one that could handle the load without overheating. A LiPo version or something of the sort.
These saws and all of the Dewalt batteries are essentially just a bunch of 18650 NiCad batteries in a fancy looking housing as far as I can tell from people who have opened them up. LiPo, while being more temperamental, could have really solved the overheat issue with the 60v 20" saw if they had made it a high capacity LiPo instead. NiCad is safer than Lipo I bet they'd be scared to fully drain a LiPo under extreme load. Battery tech just isn't there yet, they need to innovate to get my seal of approval.
@@Bearbait01 Agreed.
You can't replace a good 50cc gas saw
I have both the little baby 12 inch and the 20 inch, the 20 inch works awesome with the 15ah battery, would not use it with anything less, I have 2 15ah battery and i can cut enough firewood to last me a week at camp with 2 batteries. I have the stihl 2 in 1 saw file and keep it rzr sharp. Go buy a 300$ gas saw if you want.
I'm going to have to get a 15ah battery and test it. I really don't see how it could make that much of a difference. It ships with a 12ah. I doubt 3ah is going to stop it from overheating.
@@Bearbait01Not sure what your talking about over heating, I have cut a pile of wood until the battery's are dead, they are a high draw unit, maybe you should learn how to sharpen it, I have used mine extensively, I haven't touched my stihl 362 with 25 inch bar since purchasing. You need to sharpen that unit, let the saw do the work instead of laying into it the way you do.
@benderman55 chain is sharp, dogging it in or not hasn't effected my results at all. Are you cutting 18" diameter wood using the full length of the bar or cutting things more in the 8-10" range. Because it can do that for a while and be fine but once you stick it in large wood it craps out.
54v and 60v are the same thing. You charge at 60 but they output 54. Americans like big numbers so it's just a marketing thing.
Same goes for 18v snd 20v
The 20" is meant to be run with the 15AH
It comes with a 12ah. Doesn't make a difference. Acts the same way, it actually acted better with the 9ah
Truth.
Yes the 9ah is the most "powerful" flexvolt battery due to the cells inside @@Bearbait01
@@itsnot1673 How do you figure that?
@@Bearbait01it has to do with the type of cells the 9ah uses. They are able to discharge at a higher rate than any other dewalt battery. The 15ah has the most runtime potential but can’t discharge at the same current the 9ah can. Someone else could tell you the type of battery the 9 uses over the other flexvolt batteries. Or a simple google search reveals more answers
I GUESS you have to have about 4 Batteries for the DEFAULT or just buy what I have EGO 18 inch CHAIN saw with 4 Batteries worth $1500
So change nothing but the brand? Lol ok
Love my Makitas. Love my Sthil mini boss tho
На строике аккумуляторный пила 💪💪💪💪💪👍
Хороший обзор. Прошу тебя, не используй пилу одной рукой, это не круто, и тем более не безопасно
That 20" bar version is a miserable design, long, heavy, underpowered. The climbing saw is nice but thats where electric saws should stop.
The 20inch as a 3000w motor use a 15ah battery as dewalt recommends don't know what your problem is with it
Clean you oiler out it get clogged easy
Sounds like you dog it in hard I or sharping saw chain right
Nah it's just a junk product.
Same disappointment as battery mowers...they suck.
Except the top handle is minty. Electric saws make no sense imo except for the climbing saws. I love the 60v climbing saw.
The Milwaukee is better from what I've seen.
No one's done an actual head to head of the Milwuakee M18 Top Handle vs the Dewalt 60v Top Handle so we don't know yet. I'm sure they're just about the same but the dewalt is likely faster because the Milwaukee I believe is only 40v or somwthing close to that.
@@Bearbait01 I've got a Greenworks, not sure the oiler works but it suffices around the house. DeWalt has really upped the ante when it comes to impacts these days, the DCF961 had Milwaukee seeing red...) Got the DeWalt drill and impact from Home Depot a couple years ago, it suffice my needs. Best wishes!