Vitamins and Supplements: Less is More

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  • (2:36 - Main Presentation) More than half of Americans use vitamins or supplements, spending over $9.4 billion a year. Dr. Jeffrey Tice takes a look at which are encouraged, which are discouraged and which have no benefit. He covers antioxidants, folic acid, vitamin D and Calcium and Omega 3. Recorded on 03/08/2016. [5/2016] [Show ID: 30675]
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 410

  • @santinorider7536
    @santinorider7536 3 роки тому +76

    My wife had crippling sciatica pain last year for months. Endless blood tests. xrays they prescribed pain meds but did talk of adding in thyroid meds. As a retired engineer, I was concerned the effects on her liver. We got hold of her blood tests and using pubmed as my guide, worked out she just needed minor diet changes (primarily more fat, less sugar) and added modest doses of Vitamin D3, K2, some turmeric, magnesium each day. These are all commonly deficient as we age. In our case all pain was gone in 3 weeks. A pity they don't teach this basic stuff at med school.

    • @esecallum
      @esecallum 3 роки тому +15

      NO MONEY IN IT FOR BIG PHARMA WHO CONTROL ALL EDUCATION NOW VIA GRANTS AND DONATIONS

    • @skylark304
      @skylark304 2 роки тому +2

      the best surgical intervention was no surgery and delayed surgery but unfortunately this policy was described by hospital admin as negative revenue group of doctors with bohemian ideology and less progressive! early cataract operation of one eye was discouraged for total both eye vision , is a serious dilemma!

    • @slvrhrt6
      @slvrhrt6 2 роки тому +1

      Where can I get more info on your research?

    • @petrichor100
      @petrichor100 2 роки тому

      bravo!

    • @rosariocardenas4391
      @rosariocardenas4391 2 роки тому +3

      I got rid of my crippling sciatica with physical therapy. I devoted myself to follow the exercises and it just went away. I follow up anytime I feel the pain coming on. It really works!

  • @ottodelphiahawn2646
    @ottodelphiahawn2646 2 роки тому +63

    It’s been 5 years since this talk. It would be really good to get an update, and Dr. Tice’s view of supplements today.

    • @markpelayo
      @markpelayo 2 роки тому +2

      Yes I hope too

    • @stephayayo
      @stephayayo 2 роки тому +1

      Very true

    • @srolesen
      @srolesen 2 роки тому

      It was bunk then, you expect something else now?

    • @seymourpayne715
      @seymourpayne715 2 роки тому

      @@stephayayo
      Dr. Tice recomends Less than More vitamins any time knowadays.

    • @GlennMarshallRocks
      @GlennMarshallRocks Рік тому

      He took some vitamin C and died...

  • @desmondsmirke2087
    @desmondsmirke2087 2 роки тому +8

    I feel its impossible to get all the supplments and minerals, etc, from just your diet cause you will have to eat all day and have a very well balance diet to get all you need. My mother took alot of different vitamins and lived a good healthy life till 92 yrs old. I followed her foot steps and I will be 70 yrs old and by fair do not look my age, and am not on any medication.

  • @Zoe.TheBody360
    @Zoe.TheBody360 3 роки тому +40

    I don't understand the criticisms. We all know vitamin D should be taken with calcium and K2 but the point he is making that taking synethic vitamins in isolation (which is how most people take them) is either not effective or causes harm. Eat whole natural foods so there are cofactors for proper vitamin absorption where possible and supplement only for deficiency.

    • @DutchmanAmsterdam
      @DutchmanAmsterdam 2 роки тому +13

      Watch out with taking calcium. It may harden bloodvessels and you probably get plenty calcium already. Just plenty of D3 plus K2 is probably better. Even 10.000 IU D3 plus 200mcg K2 daily, but without calcium. Oh, and magnesium and zink.
      Apparently basicly ALL people who get severely ill with the current worldwide affliction are low on 25 Hydroxy vit D.
      High dose D3 plus K2 might very well give plenty of protection.
      I wonder why governments are not interested in alternative treatments to prevent this disease.

    • @koralesten3818
      @koralesten3818 2 роки тому +5

      @@DutchmanAmsterdam Really, why? - is it that hard to guess?

    • @archimedesmaid3602
      @archimedesmaid3602 2 роки тому +4

      @@DutchmanAmsterdam Why should "governments" be interested in, and/or responsible for your health? That is not the function of govt.
      Even if govts would be, or are interested in your health, that is never going to inspire you to be interested in your own health. ("You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot force him to drink")
      Believe me, we dont want govts which force us to do personal things which we should be free to do, or not do, for ourselves. That is the epitome of "freedom".
      Go to a maul, or a casino, in the US, and take a good look at the people there. Are they interested in their health?? Yet EVERY one of those people are (on some level) aware of what they are doing to themselves, and how to start to remedy the situation. The remedy has nothing to do with govt.

    • @lizeggar2421
      @lizeggar2421 2 роки тому +2

      @@DutchmanAmsterdam that is the big burning question. In UK the drug that shall remain nameless is banned. WHY?
      The government sent its safety has not been proven.
      After 40 years and billionsof doses with only 26 deaths being attributed to it? Compare that to aspirin or paracetamol.
      But there is very little money to be made from generic drugs or vitamins.
      I wonder if that is why?

    • @lizeggar2421
      @lizeggar2421 2 роки тому +3

      @@archimedesmaid3602 and yet governments are talking of mandating vaccines?

  • @masterkey6596
    @masterkey6596 4 роки тому +91

    nah, just not good information, very out of date. if u watched.. always take D3 with K2 and never take Calcium without K2 (in fact Calcium is not a good thing to take unless u have to)

    • @chrissmith7259
      @chrissmith7259 3 роки тому +3

      Masterkey, please can you post your evidence sources? Thanks

    • @masterkey6596
      @masterkey6596 3 роки тому +10

      @@chrissmith7259 go to Google scholar and type k2 calcium D3 artery calcification . Just found this great researcher (if you too lazy to research) called dr Eric Eric Berg, he is a chiropractor, a very intelligent person, he researches a lot and add the sources. Type for example dr Eric berg k2 D3 or any topic , he has been the most accurate I found so far and has thousands of videos.

    • @chrissmith7259
      @chrissmith7259 3 роки тому +2

      @@masterkey6596 Thanks that is very helpful. Chris

    • @paulsdancing5429
      @paulsdancing5429 3 роки тому +4

      Masterkey
      thank you. I was on 'Dydrocal' (calcium) for some 12 years.
      Some 15 years ago I was driving from San Diego, Ca. to Palm Springs. This talk show radio guy was accusing the American doctors of poisoning the population with CALCIUM. As I was travelling through a mountainous area I was losing the radio contact. But nevertheless I stopped taking the calcium on my own.
      Lately is a lot on YuoTube about vitamin D. Out of dozens and dozens of shows that I listen to, this is only the second time that I hear that D3 should be taken with K2. And only for the first time I dead that calcium should be taken also with vitamin K2.
      So what is up? Ignorance or outright deceit?

    • @masterkey6596
      @masterkey6596 3 роки тому +3

      @@paulsdancing5429 have a look into DHA (optimum quality cod liver oil) and magnesium. These are 2 other very essential nutrients we all require and don't get enough. I resume to watching videos of Dr Eric Berg (for english) now as he has been the best researcher on basically any topic, saves me time, he is on youtube

  • @djdedan
    @djdedan 8 років тому +17

    to sum up antioxidant section: more is not necessarily better.
    to sum up vitamin d section: stop wearing sunblock and go walk (don't drive) naked in the winter time.

    • @lawrencegulotta97
      @lawrencegulotta97 2 роки тому +2

      The angle of the earth will not allow you to manufacture Vitamin D north of Atlanta, even if naked at noon.

    • @srolesen
      @srolesen 2 роки тому

      Sum up nutritional science: No money in it for big pharma so let's make every trial fail and get people on some real good statins!

    • @binathere2574
      @binathere2574 Рік тому

      Very little VitD from the sun in winter. Possibly need to supplement.

  • @mikefa5891
    @mikefa5891 2 роки тому +8

    This guy's info on Omega-3 benefits seriously needs updating.

  • @annegallagher8284
    @annegallagher8284 4 роки тому +47

    Best produce in the world? Dandelion, Plantain, Mellow, Milk Thistle? Fresh in my garden, picked, chopped, popped in my food and consumed within minutes of picking..

    • @successembassador2598
      @successembassador2598 3 роки тому +5

      Great so how can I have it from you.

    • @delmanpronto9374
      @delmanpronto9374 2 роки тому +4

      I need to borrow your garden.

    • @pattiday431
      @pattiday431 2 роки тому +3

      Love dandelion. I crave it. Milk Thistle I've got plenty, but haven't tried it. Do you have to cook it, or can you add it raw to salad or a smoothie?

    • @michelenichele294
      @michelenichele294 2 роки тому

      What time is dinner 🍽?

    • @binathere2574
      @binathere2574 Рік тому

      Mallow

  • @kennethmcdade3897
    @kennethmcdade3897 2 роки тому +9

    time is a big element in our busy lives. A lot of us don't have the time or money to spend on whole foods. That's why we do supplementation where we can get a high concentration of nutrients as we can get in a multiple vitamin

    • @delmanpronto9374
      @delmanpronto9374 2 роки тому +5

      the other problem is getting foods with very high nutritional value. they're usually more expensive than what the average man can afford.

    • @binathere2574
      @binathere2574 Рік тому +1

      @@delmanpronto9374 that's why supplementation is great.

  • @bsto5000
    @bsto5000 2 роки тому +4

    When I take fish oil my triglycerides drop. I go for annual blood work and my Doc noticed I was not taking the fish oil.

  • @jmc8076
    @jmc8076 4 роки тому +29

    The negative effects of concentrated/ isolated antioxidants have been known since I was in university 20+ yrs ago. Dr Colin Campbell’s book ‘Whole’ gives an extensively researched and experienced compelling argument against the reductionist strategy for nutrition.

    • @bouldercolorado90
      @bouldercolorado90 2 роки тому

      p]0⁰]

    • @binathere2574
      @binathere2574 Рік тому +1

      However massive doses of Thiamine B1 can and do heal chronic conditions without being toxic.

  • @Nick23at63
    @Nick23at63 3 роки тому +19

    I'm only into this 11 minutes so far, but I have to make a comment. The speaker says we shouldn't take a supplement if we are already healthy. Well, I've read that the majority of Americans are unhealthy metabolically, so I would think most Americans need supplements of some kind. Let's be honest, how many doctors will spend the time analyzing your labs to see any trends? They will only prescribe something if something is WAY out of whack, not just a little.

    • @pattiday431
      @pattiday431 2 роки тому +2

      This is a year after you commented. We've since been told that Americans are particularly low in vitamin D3 and K2 which is crucial for immune system.

    • @Nick23at63
      @Nick23at63 2 роки тому +1

      @@pattiday431 - We've been told that by the doctors who don't tow the company line, many who have been shunned and called "conspiracy theorists." Our MSM doctors don't really talk about low Vitamin D levels or other alternative therapeutics, they stick with "Get vaccinated."

  • @archiewoosung5062
    @archiewoosung5062 3 роки тому +13

    I wonder if people taking vitamin supplements don't think they need to eat as carefully, so their diet counteracts any benefits?

  • @davidasa8
    @davidasa8 3 роки тому +6

    Before watching video >
    Read all the comments below. WOW

    • @srolesen
      @srolesen 2 роки тому

      haha yeah it's an eyeopener.

  • @craigb4913
    @craigb4913 3 роки тому +22

    Prediction: studies will continue to come out saying supplements are either beneficial or detrimental to our health. It's impossible to definitively prove either way because it's impossible to completely control for the many other factors related to our health. Meanwhile, the researchers need something to do.

    • @binathere2574
      @binathere2574 Рік тому +1

      Many people are regaining their health through vitamin and mineral supplementation without toxicity.

  • @ComeAlongKay
    @ComeAlongKay 4 роки тому +4

    Before taking anything there needs to be a few hundred year double blind study we can all then tear apart once it’s released.

  • @fredpauser6228
    @fredpauser6228 7 років тому +41

    I'm sure this doctor means well, but there is so much wrong with this presentation...
    For example, the section about calcium and vitamin D is mostly worthless. I'll address only that section, as follows:
    For healthy bones and healthy arteries and heart you cannot study just calcium alone, or D alone, or even just Ca and D together. The body uses MANY NUTRIENTS SYNERGISTICALLY!! The doctor mentioned there are indications that high calcium can lead to heart attack or stroke -- that is correct. Ditto if one gets extremely high doses of vit D alone.
    D is needed to absorb calcium into the blood -- BUT THEN VITAMIN K2 IS NEEDED TO GET THE CALCIUM INTO THE BONE WHERE IT BELONGS. If not enough K2, some of the calcium gets laid down in the arteries leading to atherosclerosis.
    Another factor in this: If there is insufficient Vit A, any excess calcium again tends to get laid down in the arteries (and other soft tissues). Vit A escorts excess calcium out of the body.
    Also vitamin C plays a role in proper bone maintenance -- for strong bones you need to make collagen (for connective tissue) and you cannot make collagen without vitamin C.
    So for healthy bones, arteries, and heart you need vitamins D3, K2, E, A, and C, (and more) all as a symphony.
    Why do medical people do trials focusing on one or two nutrients only at a time? Could it be due to conflict of interests? Could it be that if people are cured via nutrition they will need less drugs and medical interventions?
    Study what NUTRITIONISTS say about nutrition, not what the medical profession says about that subject. (Unfortunately even among nutritionists you'll find controversy... critical thinking required in all cases.)

    • @georgekosich5563
      @georgekosich5563 5 років тому +1

      Impossible for a layman to draw any conclusions. For every treatment advocated there will be a contrarian opinion. Both Big Pharma and the Holistic people are motivated by MONEY AND PROFIT. Good luck!

    • @jmc8076
      @jmc8076 4 роки тому

      George Kosich
      💯

    • @jmc8076
      @jmc8076 4 роки тому +1

      Large meta analysis and reviews now bringing into the question the role of supplemental calcium and or vit D in bone health in prevention or treatment of osteoporosis. Food sources are safe and needed. In that regard plant based sources have higher bioavailability and absorption.

    • @benchmarkpharmacy9564
      @benchmarkpharmacy9564 4 роки тому

      Can't agree more!!!!!

    • @srdough123
      @srdough123 4 роки тому +4

      Dont forget magnesium, it keeps your calcium moving and flowing

  • @kristinemeints
    @kristinemeints 2 роки тому +9

    weigh the risks?! Pretty much, none! Let's talk about drug risks...

    • @srolesen
      @srolesen 2 роки тому

      nonono you're not supposed to talk about drug risk lol, they make money on drugs!
      That podium he is standing on is made of drugs, drugs put food on the table!
      How dare you!

  • @wendyscott8425
    @wendyscott8425 4 роки тому +16

    Also, adding a little grass-fed beef or pasture-raised pork, chicken, and eggs won't hurt and will help the planet as these products come from farms that practice regenerative agriculture.

  • @winlaw3571
    @winlaw3571 2 роки тому +2

    You must tell us where are your researches published in which journals. Who did those researches. Pharmacetical companies might like you. What is your CV (any epidemiology or medical statistics).

  • @pramuanchutikamontham5264
    @pramuanchutikamontham5264 3 роки тому +33

    D3 ptovides twice as much 25-hydroxy vit D in the blood than outdated, cheap D2. I am always amazed at doctors preference to give megadose D2 weekly or monthly while a smaller, daily dose of D3 gets better absorbed.

    • @nadianassar9088
      @nadianassar9088 2 роки тому

      what do you think about that?

    • @britpopification
      @britpopification 2 роки тому +2

      Umm hmmmm as you say it’s cheaper, less likely to get too much by ,mistake and oh yes it’s actually a vegan source of vit D. So very good reasons to use

    • @thatcrazywolf
      @thatcrazywolf 2 роки тому

      More difficult to overdose on d2 .

    • @srolesen
      @srolesen 2 роки тому

      Lol D2 halflife in the body is measured in days where as D3 is measured in months, doctors follow big pharma and big pharma doesn't earn money on people getting better by eating effective vitamins.

    • @binathere2574
      @binathere2574 Рік тому

      Bolus doses are useless.

  • @belenvelez7028
    @belenvelez7028 2 роки тому +2

    I was prescribed Premarin after my hysterectomy, I had an allergic reaction., my whole body had rashes, very itchy, immediately was stopped.

  • @nina-zn2dn
    @nina-zn2dn 2 роки тому +5

    What a wonderful lecture it is~ We are very lucky to watch that video. Thank you.

  • @orion9k
    @orion9k 2 роки тому +7

    22:35 this is crazy information that I find hard to believe👆
    I'm taking 6000-8000 mg vitamin c per day and I can now recover a lot faster from weight lifting workout while also feeling more energized.
    I don't supplement on A, beta-carotene or e but I eat a lot of carrots, orange, turmeric celery, broccoli, onions, ginger, garlic and so on, and by the way, he fails to point out that carrot consumption together with tobacco smoking, that's the real dangers of lung cancer and increased mortality from beta-carotene 👆

    • @juliantreidiii
      @juliantreidiii Рік тому

      beta-carotene increased lung cancer but carrots, squash, and other yellow vegetables lowered it. Do not take vitamin c every day because you will become dependent. Take at least one day a week off. You seem to be doing a good job!

    • @orion9k
      @orion9k Рік тому

      @@juliantreidiii I take vitamin C every day because I am already dependent. I don't think it would do much difference if I took 1 or 2 days off every week. The idea with vitamin c 3-4 times a day, is to increase blood plasma so that more nutritions will be carried around in your blood vessels, to increase supply to your cells.

    • @falconone7230
      @falconone7230 Рік тому

      Yes true with the smoking and beta carotene

  • @CraigHocker
    @CraigHocker 3 роки тому +2

    so where to find the results on Vitamin D that were to be reported in 2017 ?

  • @robertjustinoff845
    @robertjustinoff845 2 роки тому +4

    I guess if more is less, then none is perfection.

  • @anhkimphan514
    @anhkimphan514 4 роки тому +23

    Thank you so much for a long complicated video. I ask one simple question how much it cost of vitamin D and vitamin C in comparison with Pharmaceutical prescribed drugs? You ask for double blind research? Who is going to pay for these researches which proved vitamin work well, all of doctors, hospital employee will out of job! Pharmaceuticals only pay for study to prove vitamin don’t work. I am scientist, I know there are so many wrong design, or wrong translate statistic info to get what benefit for the sponsors. Since I took vitamin from 2011, all of my doctors, dentist out of job from me. I’m sorry but my health is more important!

    • @dano9008
      @dano9008 4 роки тому +7

      Federal funding for research on vitamin C has been mostly blocked for many decades and then they say "it isn't substantiated by [the kind of] research [we prefer]."

    • @anhkimphan514
      @anhkimphan514 4 роки тому +16

      dano9008 I did experiment megadose vitamin C, D on myself because after many years follow treatments i got cancer, the cost of medical treatments for my health problem may destroy our finance future, nothing to lose I thought i’m going to die...why not try. Instead of dying, I cured all my chronic diseases and be healthy confidence with my life since 2011 and still go on.

    • @JoeyVol
      @JoeyVol 4 роки тому +1

      This video isn't complicated in the least... As a scientist, as you claim, you should have been able to absorb this information with minimal effort. A single day in any university level biology class is more daunting..

    • @eugeniebreida1583
      @eugeniebreida1583 4 роки тому +4

      @@JoeyVol I believe she meant 'unnecessarily complicated/not succinct', with which I would agree.

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 3 роки тому +8

      Interestingly, most comments are in favour of supplementation and many people, myself included, have reversed medical conditions suffered for years either by learning on our own or consulting a professional other than an MD. $$$$🤫

  • @bruceprigge7420
    @bruceprigge7420 2 роки тому

    Thanks! 🙂

  • @micaonyx5301
    @micaonyx5301 4 роки тому +55

    Prescription medication, less is more.🤔

    • @BioStuff415
      @BioStuff415 4 роки тому +10

      Exactly... I turned around 3 serious disorders, one being A-fib, the least serious of the 3, with supplements. The pharma quacks - "we don't know what the cause is." At least they are honest. "But you'll need to take this drug for the rest of your life." They all want to use us as their personal ATM machine. So, to the 5 MDs that had no clue... I want my money back. Go into the journals - other than JAMA and you will excellent studies on nutrition reversing many disorders. Number one killer in the US - medical treatment.

    • @shammikalra6174
      @shammikalra6174 4 роки тому +2

      @@BioStuff415 God Bless!Amen!

    • @tinahansen932
      @tinahansen932 4 роки тому +1

      @@BioStuff415 "Nutrition" being the key word. Not "supplements". There are too many contradictory data.

    • @Rebelz173
      @Rebelz173 3 роки тому +4

      Tina Hansen nutritional supplements.. supplements do work sometimes u have no choice to take supplements.. also mega doses do work these people that say less is more is bullshit

    • @Truehoon
      @Truehoon 3 роки тому +3

      Science has shown vitamins and supplements cure all kinds of disease in animals. Thats why farmers use them all the time to cure their animals. In fact if they dont supplement in their feed, the animals die. .......but it seems to only not work on humans according to the "experts"...... lol....GTFOH

  • @johnlogsdon2522
    @johnlogsdon2522 3 роки тому +8

    I Suggest everyone google “Number of deaths annually from correctly taken Pharmaceutical drugs. “ Then google “ Number of deaths annually from Vitamins” You will understand quickly. John L

    • @davidasa8
      @davidasa8 3 роки тому +1

      Good point

    • @dallysinghson5569
      @dallysinghson5569 3 роки тому

      And how many deaths if clinical condition remains untreated?
      Did you consider that?

  • @tieyiklunmliu
    @tieyiklunmliu 4 роки тому +11

    Look, if you can recycle healthy avian feathers and natural kelp/bones as fertilizer in your own private garden, then yes eating a moderately small amount of fruits and veg grown from it is reasonable. The world's soil is simply not as nutrient rich.

  • @kennethmcdade3897
    @kennethmcdade3897 2 роки тому +13

    I do 50 mg of zinc daily. I know it's high dosage but I'm also on hormonal therapy. I'm 69 years old and my gray hair is turning black. I've increased my copper to compensate for the increased zinc. and I do supplementation. you say don't take supplements. I'm on an island where I'm limited to all the great foods you are exposed to. what foods do you suggest?

    • @AnilSingh-rn3kx
      @AnilSingh-rn3kx 2 роки тому +3

      Yes that is very true my mom hair was gray untill i started giving her zinc an her hair started to turn black.

    • @petrichor100
      @petrichor100 2 роки тому +5

      what form of zinc and copper do you use? or the brand if you feel comfortable sharing.

    • @archimedesmaid3602
      @archimedesmaid3602 2 роки тому +1

      @@petrichor100 The real question was "what brand of hair coloring did you use?" (-;

    • @kennethmcdade3897
      @kennethmcdade3897 2 роки тому +1

      @@petrichor100 zinc , copper, magnesium are all minerals. There are many more minerals that you get also. I generally get what’s ever most economical. I buy a lot of my supplements through amazon and look for amazon recommendations. I figure they got more money than me to analyze the best. But if you got the money to throw away. Then go fir what your budget will allow.Himalayan Pink salt is another one I use. Liquid trace minerals, I use fir leg cramps.

    • @kennethmcdade3897
      @kennethmcdade3897 2 роки тому

      @@archimedesmaid3602 yep. Ya always got that 2% if big mouths that just jack their jaws cuz they want to sound intelligent

  • @falconone7230
    @falconone7230 Рік тому

    Can anyone explain to me why I get cystic acne that last more than 3 months when I take vitamin c??😨

  • @seemeburn
    @seemeburn 3 роки тому +6

    How misleading! The title alone goes directly against the very foundation’s of orthomolecular medicine!

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 3 роки тому +3

      No doubt this is Pharma sponsored

  • @Legalactionworkshoplaw1
    @Legalactionworkshoplaw1 2 роки тому +3

    The lipid hypothesis is just that…a hypothesis and has not been proven by a double blind study. Why then do most doctors as well as the AHA promote a low fat diet?

    • @srolesen
      @srolesen 2 роки тому +1

      Because it makes you sick which makes them money.

  • @tommygunn7745
    @tommygunn7745 2 роки тому +1

    I wonder if /which supplements,if any, are being made/processed in china ?

  • @Nick23at63
    @Nick23at63 3 роки тому +5

    The Caret study on beta carotene is from 1996. Are you kidding me, 24 years ago (20 from this speech)? Also, there were many doctors who stated the studies were extremely flawed, such as using synthetic forms instead of natural, also using toxic food coloring dyes inside the supplements, also relying on questionnaires asking people what they were eating in addition to the supplements in the past 8 years, etc...

  • @nicolayoung7973
    @nicolayoung7973 2 роки тому +5

    Glutathione and vit a, c, e as well as vit d3 and k2, magnesium citrate is also known for deficiencies along with vitamin D.

  • @Sunnyskyguy
    @Sunnyskyguy 4 роки тому +3

    When no correlation with Smoking or Vit D or Sunshine is given, the study is void to me. There must be more comprehensive studies to track 10 variables or more with Design of Experiments (DoE) Taguchi Methods applied to statistics. Do Nurses Smoke more in old studies?

  • @sharoyveduchi
    @sharoyveduchi 4 роки тому +12

    I hope nobody else has to watch this guy for their general education class. I want to start doing indescribable things out of anger.

  • @jerrykeese7923
    @jerrykeese7923 4 роки тому

    It is good hearing health lessons of the findings of the touted nutrients of long ago.
    I have added slowly enough to my aging organs the clinical successful nutrients.
    It's easy to dose too much. So hard to trace amounts.
    I use quantum succinct and titrate up to my dose
    up.

  • @TheVtecpwrd
    @TheVtecpwrd 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks , Very informative, great presentation.

  • @z.deutch1334
    @z.deutch1334 6 років тому +16

    Good to know most nutrients come from food (where we should get it from) rather than the shortcut mentality that most people have. At worse, most people believe that if a little is good, a lot must be better.
    I use to think that way before I met my husband. He was a lecturer and veterinary surgeon. He doesn't put his animals on supplements unless they are deficient. They get their nutrition entirely from food. He himself is one of the fittest men I've ever met. He suggested I try stopping all the supplements I was taking and get my nutrition completely from food. I was against that idea but thought it should be okay to try for 2 to 3 months.
    The transformation was amazing. My skin became clear and supple (none of the natural supplements I took even came close to what a healthy diet has done for my skin). Inflammation went down. Blood test results came back even better than the results I had in 2011 when I was on lots of vitamins and minerals (yes even food based multivitamins). I use to take fiber supplements too, but don't need that anymore because I get so much fiber from food. It was challenging at first because cooking fresh food takes a lot of time, but now it has become a lifestyle habit - I MAKE time. Think of it as an investment in yourself. The sad part is, before relying entirely on food, I was already eating relatively healthy but still had heavy reliance on supplements and not gaining any positive effects from them.

    • @skylark304
      @skylark304 2 роки тому +1

      The western medicine of supplement and allopathy had such negative connotation on indian AYURVEDIC that a cult society of western educated vs Indian AYURVEDIC (FOOD BASE NUTRITION) evolved ; ultimately govt effort to fund Ayurvedic has leased a new extension of life !

    • @binathere2574
      @binathere2574 Рік тому +1

      Not everyone is the same though. I was vegetarian for over 40 years. Not a junk food one either. I am now trying to recover from vitamin deficiencies. I feel meat will be my saving grace. However my daughter would agree with you.

    • @mem1701movies
      @mem1701movies Рік тому

      @@binathere2574 you probably have a b12/iron deficiency?

    • @binathere2574
      @binathere2574 Рік тому

      @@mem1701movies I did have 8 years ago. I'm on top of that now. Thank you for your suggestion. I've recently discovered I can't eat red meat it makes me feel ill. I'm taking beef organ capsules instead.

  • @getgene
    @getgene 2 роки тому +2

    Clear presentation of data study. Medicine really is a form a statistics these days. Two comments: there is the clear principle that is ignored in our culture, especially in politics: correlation is not causation. Here, correclation is called "observational study" Same thing. Correlation provides a hypothesis not a conclusion. Second: D3, it turns out is clearly related to the power of the COVID reaction. Dr. Tice shows a map where we do not get sufficient D3 in winter; hypothesis: infrections are higher in winter, so take D3 supplement.

  • @milels6917
    @milels6917 2 роки тому +3

    One of the Doctors studies Alzheimer’s for the past 20 years in Oxford have found that Vit B12 plus omega 3 reversed Alzheimer’s doing placebo testing in others no effect said it Alzheimer’s can start brain disjunction in the young maybe not noticed but because of poor diet ect it starts then So my husband and I take these vits now as he was getting very forgetful and slow I can see a difference now I have always been interested in vitamins vit D and k3 during this pandemic keeps us going particularly for people living were very little sun in the winter

    • @srolesen
      @srolesen 2 роки тому +1

      K3 is a synthetic variant of k2 though and no longer legal in human nutrition, but still used for animal feed.
      I've been making natto for a little while in order to get mine

    • @binathere2574
      @binathere2574 Рік тому +1

      yes, early invention with other B vitamins is also proving helpful in arresting early onset Alzheimer's.

  • @manuelojeda9144
    @manuelojeda9144 2 роки тому +1

    I drink dandelion tea. Taking 5 day break from Milk Thistle. I also take whole food Vitamin C, D3+ K2, the good magnesium.

  • @purplegirl8036
    @purplegirl8036 2 роки тому +12

    😂 I’m glad I’m not the only one that is confused by this video. Vitamins literally give me energy that I don’t have and I’ve used them to cure myself.

    • @britpopification
      @britpopification 2 роки тому

      ….he’s a scientist and uses actual science to come to conclusions…..

    • @srolesen
      @srolesen 2 роки тому +1

      @@britpopification hahaha, paid for big big pharma.

  • @michaelmalkowski6273
    @michaelmalkowski6273 2 роки тому +1

    For 50 years now, we are getting fatter and sicker, and the Doctors are still in denial. The AG, dept tells us what to eat,
    they may be good at growing it, but that has not translated into good for us. The number of confounding issues
    in these clinical trials are huge. Every one on the internet has an opinion, and that is all it is. Maybe people should just be quiet.

  • @waynewalleye8458
    @waynewalleye8458 2 роки тому +2

    vitamin d3/k2 with coconut oil is prob the most important supp

  • @Minister-Delina.
    @Minister-Delina. 3 роки тому +3

    Why am i watching this?? I revived from severe caugh that no doctor could cure and vit c did till today. Fckn wasted my 25 mins

  • @mindcache5650
    @mindcache5650 4 роки тому +5

    Nope. Quality is the key . Cheap Walmart vitamins are different than the better precursors

  • @paolovalenti779
    @paolovalenti779 4 роки тому +22

    Sooo...inconclusion.... we have a deficiency in pharmaceuticals!

    • @Thedamped
      @Thedamped 4 роки тому +5

      He concludes that you need a healthy diet.

    • @JoeyVol
      @JoeyVol 4 роки тому +2

      um what? He states multiple positive vitamin outcomes, including that women who could become pregnant or are pregnant should take folate and that there's a vitamin D deficiency in Americans and everyone needs 600 IU's and older people should have 800 IU's a day.

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 3 роки тому +2

      @@JoeyVol
      He doesn't know squat. If he did, he'd recommend getting serum testing to determine the amount of D needed. Health is derived from maximum amounts, not the minimum to keep you alive.

    • @srolesen
      @srolesen 2 роки тому

      hahaha,he can eyeball your wallet and tell you about your urgent statin deficiency, you just aren't getting enough in your diet!

  • @mrs.p6130
    @mrs.p6130 Рік тому +1

    I'm still a fan of Linus Pauling. This guy doesn't convince me. I do my own randomized trials. Thanks

  • @phenomenalfemale524
    @phenomenalfemale524 2 роки тому

    When I was 16 many decades back we didn't have vitamins and supplements figured out. We don't still. When will we?

  • @carolann2930
    @carolann2930 4 роки тому +39

    Very disappointing. The level of understanding is rudimentary at best. This would be why a growing number of us stay away from mainstream medicine.

    • @stevebergkamp2875
      @stevebergkamp2875 4 роки тому

      Wtet

    • @stevebergkamp2875
      @stevebergkamp2875 4 роки тому

      Carol awesome that fwas St

    • @stevebergkamp2875
      @stevebergkamp2875 4 роки тому

      Carol Lambourne was as a a

    • @SilentServiceCode
      @SilentServiceCode 4 роки тому

      @@stevebergkamp2875 are you having a stroke

    • @JoeyVol
      @JoeyVol 4 роки тому +1

      The published studies are rudimentary? Right...
      This is a doctor speaking about published studies; not his own personal opinion or conjecture.

  • @aumicon
    @aumicon 3 роки тому +4

    Vitamins and minerals taken in the correct way with improvement in diet an make one not worry of any discease.

    • @terrytari1891
      @terrytari1891 3 роки тому +1

      I agree! I don't trust this guy.

  • @lelandbarker3994
    @lelandbarker3994 4 роки тому +8

    What about K2???????????

    • @michellefilak631
      @michellefilak631 2 роки тому +1

      D3 and K2 with MK7.... surprised he said nothing about these important vitamins!

  • @Dudlesful
    @Dudlesful 4 роки тому +23

    I can't get through the "ummm, ummmm, ahhh" pauses.

    • @josephdennison4890
      @josephdennison4890 4 роки тому +2

      He does the hem hauling because he knows he's lying

    • @JoeyVol
      @JoeyVol 4 роки тому +5

      ​@@josephdennison4890 .... He's not a presenter by trade.. He's a physician. That's why he's not the greatest at public speaking.. Come the F on guys. Lol thinking he's being paid to lie? Well everything he's stating is based on published studies. If you have an issue with those studies than take it up with those publishers not the messenger. He seems to also have a slight studder in general.. It doesn't ruin the presentation and only lasts the first couple minutes. Perhaps that's your own prejudice against higher learning.

    • @gyongyimihut5591
      @gyongyimihut5591 3 роки тому +3

      Because he’ s lying between his teeth

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 3 роки тому +1

      @@JoeyVol
      He needs some supplements 😉
      All that learning, all those degrees and he doesn't know much 😯🤭🤫

    • @jessewintermute8031
      @jessewintermute8031 2 роки тому

      It's because you haven't utilized the speed tool. Watch it at speed 2 and you won't even notice...

  • @janettepolt2815
    @janettepolt2815 5 років тому +10

    OK, so, I like most of his presentation, however, I don't agree with his assessment that there is minimal benefit of eating organic foods. There certainly has been an increase of cancers in the population since all these chemicals have been introduced. The incidence of cancer years ago when people grew their own food was clearly significantly lower. Just an observation.

    • @todddweiner1059
      @todddweiner1059 4 роки тому +2

      He specified the nutrient content being significantly better. He agreed that the pesticides should be avoided

    • @davidasa8
      @davidasa8 3 роки тому

      ....and autism.

  • @ILykToDoDuhDrifting
    @ILykToDoDuhDrifting 8 років тому +8

    Videos need a freaking TLDR and table of contents. AIn't nobody got time for dis.

    • @djdedan
      @djdedan 8 років тому +4

      +ILykToDoDuhDrifting Or you could make it... and become an INTERNET HERO!

  • @nicolayoung7973
    @nicolayoung7973 2 роки тому +1

    If very gigh quality and organic if possible then its good, after seeing the GP i was offered vitamins but they were pharmaceutical products and not easily digested if at all, for example vitamin D, thiamin again crap quality supposed to be taken with a source of vitamin c or there is no absorption thus eventually becoming deficient!

  • @johnlogsdon2522
    @johnlogsdon2522 3 роки тому +6

    Wow! This guy is Mr. pharmaceutical company number one. If you want to learn something of value I suggest seeing anything on UA-cam by Dr. Levy or Dr. Lustig. You will be glad you did. They are both eminently qualified and of great value in their presentations. John L

  • @gailfisher1350
    @gailfisher1350 2 роки тому +7

    My late fiance was an internist. He said that they taught nothing about nutrition and vitamins/supplements in medical school. He did his own research. I was smoking at the time. He believed in antioxidants and vitamins. He told me to take at least 500 mg every day because I had bruising. I took the vitamin C and I stopped bruising. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

  • @joelopez5320
    @joelopez5320 3 роки тому +1

    Must be food sourced. Hello.

  • @hema11901
    @hema11901 4 роки тому

    Nice

  • @davmus1112
    @davmus1112 4 роки тому +6

    I take around 10000 mg A-day of vitamin C when I'm sick goes up to like 40000 mg. This is So importantt but I've been listening to this guy for 10 minutes and I haven't heard anything about it

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 3 роки тому +2

      That's wise.. and you won't get covid either with that amount of C.

    • @britpopification
      @britpopification 2 роки тому

      Maybe cus it’s nonsense

    • @xana5649
      @xana5649 2 роки тому

      @@snowbird6855 too much isnt good for nobody

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 2 роки тому +1

      @@xana5649
      "too much".. define too much.. the amount recommend by health authorities is ridiculous, yet there are many excellent published scientific papers providing more accurate information. For example the work done by the Linus Pauling Institute.

    • @xana5649
      @xana5649 2 роки тому

      @@snowbird6855 10g???

  • @glenswain1355
    @glenswain1355 2 роки тому +1

    Vitamin tablets is a waste of money ?? Well don’t think so !! Been on them most of my life , now 84 , in the workforce till 81 . and still the only tablets I take .

    • @derekarnold3665
      @derekarnold3665 Рік тому

      Have you tried eating fresh fruit and vegetables.

  • @BLoof-wd6lg
    @BLoof-wd6lg 3 роки тому +4

    🦜 *I wonder: did you consider that young, healthy people don't take supplements but when they get sick they start to take it!?!? Konklusions from statistics are a bit complicated...* 🦊

    • @SMDAHL
      @SMDAHL 2 роки тому +4

      Complicated and often skewed by conflicts of interest:)

  • @mistermichael6911
    @mistermichael6911 3 роки тому +1

    Highly highly overdependent on so-called statistical trials. Not to say that legitimate trials are useless, how did humanity exist before the random controlled study???

  • @derekarnold3665
    @derekarnold3665 Рік тому

    Let's be honest vitamin supplements will never replace eating a well balanced diet.

  • @nutritionistliz6057
    @nutritionistliz6057 3 роки тому +1

    No, meta analyses don’t normally include observational studies as they don’t stand up to the rigorous inclusions set in advance

  • @wookongninja7461
    @wookongninja7461 4 роки тому +6

    Comments better than talk.

  • @kerrylattimore2684
    @kerrylattimore2684 4 роки тому +6

    University Of the pharmacy backed State of California.

    • @JoeyVol
      @JoeyVol 4 роки тому +2

      .. you didn't listen to the video. If you HAD listened to the video he stated multiple vitamins that Americans are deficient in or that women who could become pregnant should take and his main point was that a HEALTHY DIET WAS KEY and that studies show the Mediterranean diet was the most proven over time.

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 3 роки тому +1

      @@JoeyVol
      Our soils are depleted by industrial farming and we cannot obtain adequate nutrition by diet any longer. Then there's glyphosate.. found in most every food and sprayed on crops, causing more problems than this doctor will ever have a clue about. Glyphosate is found in mother's milk too. Doctors cannot earn a living if we're healthy by learning which supplements we need for which ailment.

  • @RawLu.
    @RawLu. 6 років тому +1

    That's all I ever hear is eat a healthy diet etc.??? what about those who NEVER HAVE & NEVER WILL!?! like me!. like probably most people who look towards supplements to maybe help??? Do they help those people who are most likely Deficient???...

    • @nitaluhromyk2157
      @nitaluhromyk2157 5 років тому +3

      There is no good excuse for eating poorly. If you're still alive, you can and should change your diet to start improving your health. If you eat a balanced diet, you won't need supplements, and if you eat poorly, supplements won't save you from a lot of the issues accompanying a bad diet.

  • @successembassador2598
    @successembassador2598 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much for this video its so helpful.

  • @edwigcarol4888
    @edwigcarol4888 3 роки тому +1

    There is a very big problem here: the body is so sophisticated that everything relies on a lot of different factors working together in the right balance. You give Ca++ but the body can't do something with it: other electrolytes are needed to work with at the right moment with the right ratio (he does not mention the ratios P/Ca++ and K+/Na++) insuline level (active at the bones) and insuline resistence (very common), other hormones, movements and strength exerted on the bones (use it or lose it) etc. I read once that low sodium intake can lead the body to destroy bone tissue to get the missing Na++. I was shocked!!

  • @Lamplighter4712
    @Lamplighter4712 2 роки тому +2

    Listen and listen to these , I think they can be useful , but the most important thing is mental healthy..
    I was nursing 31 years .
    So many very healthy thin people die the most slow agonizing deaths , the body was so efficient that if faught disease to the hilt.
    Then less rigid health people go quickly .enjoying life to the last minute.
    I think quantity is not quality.
    The key is each person needs to live the life that gives them quality . And balance , spiritual growth is most important.
    I am really not convince we control it that much.
    Ecclesiastes , there is a time to be born and a time to die.
    I tend to think our exit time may be guided by a power greater than our own.

  • @chrisfrankford8899
    @chrisfrankford8899 3 роки тому +2

    Dr's listen more to drug salesmen who visit them regularly their offices than they do the vitamin industry sales persons who don't visit doctors' offices at all.

  • @Hiprich
    @Hiprich 3 роки тому +4

    Are you people sure that this guy is a real doctor ?

  • @TimJackson1975
    @TimJackson1975 6 років тому +14

    Good talk, as supplements should be considered by strength and quality of evidence just as with prescription medication and diets. However, part of this talk demonstrates how pervasive the misunderstandings of p-values continue to be. Even this physician researcher misinterprets p-values. Beginning at 19:10, he states this p-value indicates "the probability of this happening due to chance..." P-values do not and cannot confer this. They are probability of the data given the null hypothesis being true. In other words, they rely on the null hypothesis.
    Also, the "probability of this data given my hypothesis" (p-value) is much different than the "probability of my hypothesis given this data."
    Also, p-values tell you nothing about effect size.
    Basically, it's discouraging that the overuse, misuse and misunderstandings of p-values exist even at a place of scientific excellence like UCSF.

    • @terrytari1891
      @terrytari1891 3 роки тому +3

      People are going to Vitamins, yoga, meditation, massage, exercise, etc because people don't trust Big Pharma. People don't trust Big Pharma's high over priced drugs & the side effects.

    • @srolesen
      @srolesen 2 роки тому

      Give the shill a break, he is there to sell you drugs not do science and stuff!
      How do you expect a talking advertising pamphlet to be accurate?

  • @Vixxy1000
    @Vixxy1000 3 роки тому

    I couldn’t listen due to the uumm and aahhh consistently also the repetition of the the and that that. I’m certain he has a great deal of good information to impart.

  • @margueritedaltoso7186
    @margueritedaltoso7186 2 роки тому

    I did

  • @natalliask
    @natalliask 3 роки тому

    He never heard about methylation? Some people cannot convert folate pill into active form.

  • @robertthompson5501
    @robertthompson5501 3 роки тому +2

    Vit D and covid-19!

  • @erwin021777
    @erwin021777 3 роки тому +6

    "It doesnt mean Linus pauling was right." LOL
    ILL CONTINUE TAKING HIGH QUALITY MULTIVITAMINS WITH HIGH DOSE VIT. C.

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 3 роки тому +5

      For sure! I finally figured out how to stop the hives I was getting (never could find the cause). Vitamin C! Then I experimented with the amount and determined I need 3,000 mgs per day. And this amount along with 5,000 iu vitamin D plus 30 mgs zinc is protecting me against colds (that I no longer get) and from covid. At 64, my skin no longer converts sunshine to vitamin D very well but I still get sunshine regularly. Those with serious cases of covid have low serum levels of D.

    • @trafferz
      @trafferz 3 роки тому +1

      @@snowbird6855 Very interesting. Just added another Vitamin C based on your post and reading more online. Thanks for the tip!

    • @marioandreano1236
      @marioandreano1236 2 роки тому +1

      Vit c is amazing .intervenous Vit C completely took away all opiod withdrawal ...look it up its true....and Dr Pauling was right . This Dr is off base

  • @pearlverdun
    @pearlverdun 2 роки тому

    Folic acid as a form of b9 is not good for people with MTHFR or slow COMT epigenetics....apparently about 30% of the population. Look at FB groups to explain more. B9 is needed with b12 but in a different form to folic acid. If slow COMT i take hydroxy subliminal b12 ....still working out b9

  • @rwilke4186
    @rwilke4186 4 роки тому +3

    paid by AMA and Pharmaceutical companies

  • @BarryAnderson
    @BarryAnderson 4 роки тому +6

    Masterkeywith Holistic Chef Barry Anderson Absolutely OLD SCHOOL OUT OF DATE ADVICE AND RESEARCH. MORE ON THIS LATER
    5 months ago
    Nah, just not good information, very out of date. if u watched.. always take D3 with K2 and never take Calcium without K2 (in fact Calcium is not a good thing to take unless u have to)

  • @icantdance5712
    @icantdance5712 3 роки тому +8

    Whenever a medical expert, whether it's this guy or any other mentions the word study, they need to start off with who FUNDED THE STUDY. I grew up, thinking that scientists where all looking for the truth. That belief has been shattered in so many ways, so many times since then.

    • @snowbird6855
      @snowbird6855 3 роки тому +4

      Exactly. My daughter learned this when she began her first research paper (on education technology, not medicine). She told us the conclusion that was expected by the sponsor of the research before the work even began, it was that obvious.

    • @edwigcarol4888
      @edwigcarol4888 3 роки тому +1

      Only shattered ? Totally destroyed. Only one week ago result on 900 studies having been checked on seriousness: 14 out of 900 could stand this examination...

  • @oldscar6169
    @oldscar6169 4 роки тому +1

    Sounds like he isGuessing

  • @kernowarty
    @kernowarty 2 роки тому

    Humans, like animals, know instinctively what foods to eat. Or they did in their natural state in harmony with the planet. That is the problem with our materialistic evolution. We have lost so much in instinctual and spiritual ways of living.

  • @shawngates138
    @shawngates138 3 роки тому +1

    mr master key stop sticking your key where it dont fit where is your curdentals

  • @normanspurgeon5324
    @normanspurgeon5324 2 роки тому +2

    Physicians cannot tolerate the free will, or the resourcefulness that supplements represent. Any knowledge or action a person takes is a threat to their authority. Each supplement has an irrefutable role in the human body. I hope that this video does not stifle people's curiosity or resourcefulness about health.

  • @dailydribble
    @dailydribble 2 роки тому

    Now they are in gummy's with sugar like taking a sugar pill

  • @kimanhchung8372
    @kimanhchung8372 3 роки тому

    Thanks doctor

  • @macclift9956
    @macclift9956 Рік тому

    Folate is probably better (safer) than folic acid.

  • @eamonnw
    @eamonnw 2 роки тому +1

    coincidentally was doing exactly this as i was listening 55:00 I thought I was a weirdo for having a skinny latte and a sardine sandwich just while watching this, need full fat in future though

  • @Whereismyname34
    @Whereismyname34 2 роки тому +11

    Doctors talking about nutrition… 😂. The last person you should trust concerning staying healthy.

  • @missiris1234
    @missiris1234 3 роки тому +2

    What does ummm mean?

  • @laurentbriere8825
    @laurentbriere8825 3 роки тому +2

    These results don't make any sense. Nutrients are making us strong and healthy through our life with food but nowadays, the soil are depleted of these nutrients and that is reason why supplements are very important and he tells us that they don't have any benefit for us??? This guy is still a MD and he can't say without the board of medicine agreement that supplements work. It goes against the pharmaceutical business. You need to do your own research .NCBI site and you will find out that supplements work in proper dosage and good quality products.