This is Tom Brown. I'll be filming the Primary and Secondary Cooling System Service (drain, flush, refill) on Bill's 2011 F250 with the 6.7 engine on Saturday, May 11th. I'll also show you an alternative to the Ford Orange Coolant that could save you a lot of time and money and provide great protection. Should have the videos uploaded soon thereafter. Be sure to Subscribe to this channel and click the Bell icon to receive alerts when Bill uploads a new video.
Great video, I learned a great deal. Thanks. Also I noted that you are having the same problem that I have and that is build up on the negative battery post. Seems like you can never get them clean. Thanks for the video, looking forward to the next.
Woah! Great information, didn’t know any of this. 100% creditable when it comes from Mr. Hewitt and a man wearing an Amsoil shirt. Initially looking to see if SPE Motorsports thermostat was a 👍or 👎. Guess I didn’t find out, but excellent info in this vid. Thank you so much Bill!!!
No wonder 50% of these engines fail from coolant issues. They take a simple DIY maintenance item and engineer it into something so convoluted that people can't work on at home and probably costs $500 to flush out at the ford garage. Another genius idea by ford.
I sure learned a lot here our church bought a 2012, f-550 frame , 34 passenger van with a 6.7. Lots to learn on maintenance with this one it has 115 k on it Thanks so much very informative Also trying to learn all the maintenance on the def system
After doing some research on coolant i opted for Peak Global..... and a New Cap. I spent a Whole day flushing (the last two with Distilled water) i had the Starter out 7 times in all and i replace my Egr and Oil Coolers ,thanks to your very insightful Videos ,Thank you Glad i Have a 6.0L
From my experience helping Powerstroke owners extend the life of their vehicles, I find that the 6.7 is the most capable in terms of power, performance, and even longevity (if maintained well), but they do require a comprehensive maintenance/service program. You can't ignore them and expect to get long-life results. If you want 500 hp and 1000 lb ft of torque, you have to pay the fuel and service bills.
Gas engines can't keep up with the torque of diesel engines. Old 6.0s, LLYs and 5.9s from the mid 2000s still can do more work than today's newest fashion engines. People ask for their diesels to do more. This is the result.
a quick google search shows that there are multiple institutions that give this certification... A quick 3 day course and pass a test with 70% or higher we can all be certified! I'm not saying that his information is wrong by any means. But Jesus that tittle really just screams bull shit.
@@bmxguy08 CLS is administered by the Society of Tribologist and Lubrication Engineers (STLE). I encourage you to gain the several years of experience required to sit for the exam, then study for several months, take the "quick 3-day course", and finally pass the test with a 70%. In my class alone, the failure rate was over 50% and that was average. Please post your CLS license number when you pass. I look forward to you joining the ranks of professional lubrication specialists.
bmxguy08 I would have said the same thing, but there are actual legit corporate members including Ford in STLE. Where he’s going to lose us is the next video with the Scamsoil coolant or oil that is STILL not on Ford’s approved Diesel oil list. www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/main/additionalinfo/dieseloilsWSSM2C171F1.pdf
Seriously though. I hate to admit this because diesel is in the blood, but once fully electric trucks become perfected, these overly complicated trucks are gonna be gone. It’s just getting way too complicated and expensive thanks too epa mandates.
Then you have to deal with the utilities being able to provide enough power for charge stations, being able to charge fast enough to fit in a typical rest shift, cost of electricity, battery performance, amp-our capacity, battery performance and stability as well as the high initial cost of the truck and cost for replacing the battery banks every few years. Theres really no easy way with tight emissions standards.
Back when I was working as an engineer in building design I remember all the exploding heads at utility companies when the plug-in hybrids came out. The talk of having to double or triple the capacity of the nations electric grid when its already at or near its maximum capacity. It will probably be some time before theres enough infrastructure for it.
"The reason I say no, is because the chemistry thats in the ford gold coolant is correct chemistry for the entire system" www.ficmrepair.com/pdf/Powerstroke_Cooling_System_Flush_v1-0.pdf "International Corporation, the manufacturer of the engine, uses this engine in several medium duty trucks. The coolant they use is an ELC coolant conforming to the CAT EC-1 specification. This indicates that the use of an HD ELC coolant is safe for your engine. It is also important to note that International trucks equipped with this engine do not appear to have as high of an oil cooler failure rate as compared to the Ford Super Duty trucks. The choice of coolant is yours to make but consider using a coolant conforming to the CAT EC-1 specification."
My 06 6.0 has had only ford gold used in it and with 217000 miles she still has original oil cooler and all. Shes deleted so that helps but ive had buddies ise cat and have had issues
What are peoples opinions on the Mishimoto systems? Are they worth the money? My truck pulls 10k lbs daily and is a huge part of my business. I tow up mountain passes weekly (6-7% grade).
Another thing to think about thermodynamics is that metal expands and contracts under that heating and cooling uncontrollably that it as best as possible keeps those parts from failing so it's not just just keeping the heater under control it's more keeping the expansion and contraction of the dissimilar metals from overreacting from heat and contact each other causing fatigue to the point of failure. And actually lubricant is another form of dissipation of heat as well as lubrication, otherwise they would put soft Metals in lubrication. I remember the same debate about using cast iron heads and aluminum heads on a cast iron block and if you didn't keep the block cool the aluminum heads warp to failure quicker than snot
Hey bill, I know I’m commenting a bit late here but I just thought of a question I’ve had in the back of my mind for awhile, I’ve got an 01’ Dodge with a Cummins in it, but for this question it should be pretty universal as compared to say a 7.3, I just bought this truck, motor has 180K on it, the guy told me he’d been adding that Lucas oil stabilizer to the engine for the time he drove it (wasn’t much. 10k miles or so, he just used it to haul a hay trailer every season) I know that stuff usually is pretty thick and can somewhat increase the thickness of the oil if I’m not mistaken, but from what I can see inside the motor from shining a light through the hole for the oil cap and looking at the bottom of the oil cap the engine has no sludge or anything and the oil on the cap when I pull it off feels about like 15w40 should. Would you recommend I switch to archoil like I’m wanting to or since he’d been running this oil stabilizer in the engine that I just keep using it?
I have a 2013 with 74,000 miles. I have a coolant smell as if a leak outside the truck after it warms up on the primary side. I lose about 1 gallon of coolant a year and no puddles ever. I have taken it to Ford and was told " to keep and eye on the level and if it gets worse to bring it back". I replaced the cap to the gas bottle and still have a smell. I'm a retired firefighter and living on a budget and of course out of warranty, and don't want to throw a bunch of money at it to not find the problem. Any ideas, or suggestion would greatly be appreciated. Thanks, Marshall
First I'd perform a cooling system pressure test to see if it is holding pressure. Most parts stores will loan you the tool kit. Next I'd pull an oil sample and send it out for analysis to see if you are getting any coolant into the engine oil. Contact me for further details. (678) 787-3028.
Now I have a 2019 Ford F-350 6.7 an my coolant is green now a buddy of mine has a 17 an his looks red I’m lost why change so many times? With the same engine?
Another Ford better idea. Ford will change to different parts 3 or more times through the same production run. You almost always need the production month to look up parts for Fords. They are an night mare for a parts person but also keep them gainfully employed. lol
They constantly change things in the engine. Here's a link: www.powerstrokehub.com/6.7-model-year-changes.html I don't think it mentions coolant anywhere though
We've filmed the coolant service video, but it may take a couple of weeks to get it edited and uploaded. Contact me directly at (678) 787-3028 if you want to learn more about the coolant I used in Bill's truck. It wasn't Motorcraft Orange and it will last 5 years / 150,000 miles.
Hey Bill, you crap all over 6.4's and your shop no longer services 7.3's?!! Why don't you change the name of your shop? Power Stroke Specialty is a little misleading...
Best-Synthetic-Oils.com only when you don’t change it. Been running dexcool for years. Just change every 5 years or 150,000 miles. Ive only ever seen problems with dexcool due to poor maintenance
If you get to retirement or the end of the month... and you have no money... hopefully the light bulb will light up and you will realize“I’ve spent all my money on a diesel.” $Huge payments, $huge repairs, $registration costs, $insurance. Not too fuckin bright.
That's the most piss-poor design I've ever seen for a cooling system why would you need for thermostats to operate a regular pickup truck diesel fuel Burns better with more heat
Thanks...We have needed a video on coolant Service on a 6.7.
This is Tom Brown. I'll be filming the Primary and Secondary Cooling System Service (drain, flush, refill) on Bill's 2011 F250 with the 6.7 engine on Saturday, May 11th. I'll also show you an alternative to the Ford Orange Coolant that could save you a lot of time and money and provide great protection. Should have the videos uploaded soon thereafter. Be sure to Subscribe to this channel and click the Bell icon to receive alerts when Bill uploads a new video.
I always love when Tom comes on, thanks for that excellent info!
Great video, I learned a great deal. Thanks. Also I noted that you are having the same problem that I have and that is build up on the negative battery post. Seems like you can never get them clean. Thanks for the video, looking forward to the next.
Woah! Great information, didn’t know any of this. 100% creditable when it comes from Mr. Hewitt and a man wearing an Amsoil shirt. Initially looking to see if SPE Motorsports thermostat was a 👍or 👎. Guess I didn’t find out, but excellent info in this vid. Thank you so much Bill!!!
No wonder 50% of these engines fail from coolant issues. They take a simple DIY maintenance item and engineer it into something so convoluted that people can't work on at home and probably costs $500 to flush out at the ford garage. Another genius idea by ford.
I sure learned a lot here our church bought a 2012, f-550 frame , 34 passenger van with a 6.7. Lots to learn on maintenance with this one it has 115 k on it
Thanks so much very informative
Also trying to learn all the maintenance on the def system
After doing some research on coolant i opted for Peak Global..... and a New Cap. I spent a Whole day flushing (the last two with Distilled water) i had the Starter out 7 times in all and i replace my Egr and Oil Coolers ,thanks to your very insightful Videos ,Thank you Glad i Have a 6.0L
Another great learning video. Thanks Guys!
wow -- this makes my 6.7 Cummins a snap to work on
Another good video that reassures my decision to keep my 6.0.
That 6.7 system is a cluster.
From my experience helping Powerstroke owners extend the life of their vehicles, I find that the 6.7 is the most capable in terms of power, performance, and even longevity (if maintained well), but they do require a comprehensive maintenance/service program. You can't ignore them and expect to get long-life results. If you want 500 hp and 1000 lb ft of torque, you have to pay the fuel and service bills.
Another reason big blocks are making a comeback. This is another expensive cost to the ownership of diesels.
Yes sir, I’m excited about fords new 7.3. Supposed to be a beast! Of course they pump up all of their new engines but the specs look good.
Gas engines can't keep up with the torque of diesel engines. Old 6.0s, LLYs and 5.9s from the mid 2000s still can do more work than today's newest fashion engines. People ask for their diesels to do more. This is the result.
I believe 2017+ the Trans Cooler has moved to the Primary system.
My apologies if I am mistaken.
*Certified Lubrication Specialist ! Great conversation starter I guess 😂
a quick google search shows that there are multiple institutions that give this certification... A quick 3 day course and pass a test with 70% or higher we can all be certified! I'm not saying that his information is wrong by any means. But Jesus that tittle really just screams bull shit.
@@bmxguy08 CLS is administered by the Society of Tribologist and Lubrication Engineers (STLE). I encourage you to gain the several years of experience required to sit for the exam, then study for several months, take the "quick 3-day course", and finally pass the test with a 70%. In my class alone, the failure rate was over 50% and that was average. Please post your CLS license number when you pass. I look forward to you joining the ranks of professional lubrication specialists.
bmxguy08 I would have said the same thing, but there are actual legit corporate members including Ford in STLE.
Where he’s going to lose us is the next video with the Scamsoil coolant or oil that is STILL not on Ford’s approved Diesel oil list. www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/main/additionalinfo/dieseloilsWSSM2C171F1.pdf
Amsoil seller... nothing more... get someone NOT pushing their website with a kick back for sales and then it would mean something...
Looking forward to that coolant service video whenever y’all are ready
This video closes the gap on service info from Ford. So many issues would have been saved had people known and followed the service intervals
wow what an absolute nightmare
Great job doing the cooling system demo. I learned a lot , ty
Seriously though. I hate to admit this because diesel is in the blood, but once fully electric trucks become perfected, these overly complicated trucks are gonna be gone. It’s just getting way too complicated and expensive thanks too epa mandates.
Then you have to deal with the utilities being able to provide enough power for charge stations, being able to charge fast enough to fit in a typical rest shift, cost of electricity, battery performance, amp-our capacity, battery performance and stability as well as the high initial cost of the truck and cost for replacing the battery banks every few years. Theres really no easy way with tight emissions standards.
Back when I was working as an engineer in building design I remember all the exploding heads at utility companies when the plug-in hybrids came out. The talk of having to double or triple the capacity of the nations electric grid when its already at or near its maximum capacity. It will probably be some time before theres enough infrastructure for it.
Ford just went to Yellow.
Time to update. New 6.7L Powerstroke comes with Motorcraft Yellow coolant.
I acknowledge that in my video, but this video is targeted to those people with older 6.7 trucks that are in need of coolant service.
Why not show them how to go to the yellow.
This video is COOL!
Did y'all ever release a 6.7 coolant service video?
"The reason I say no, is because the chemistry thats in the ford gold coolant is correct chemistry for the entire system"
www.ficmrepair.com/pdf/Powerstroke_Cooling_System_Flush_v1-0.pdf
"International Corporation, the manufacturer of the engine, uses this engine in several medium duty trucks. The coolant they use is an ELC coolant conforming to the CAT EC-1 specification. This indicates that the use of an HD ELC coolant is safe for your engine. It is also important to note that International trucks equipped with this engine do not appear to have as high of an oil cooler failure rate as compared to the Ford Super Duty trucks. The choice of coolant is yours to make but consider using a coolant conforming to the CAT EC-1 specification."
Bien
My 06 6.0 has had only ford gold used in it and with 217000 miles she still has original oil cooler and all. Shes deleted so that helps but ive had buddies ise cat and have had issues
Great video, thank you.
Getting to be like maintaining a commercial airliner.
What are peoples opinions on the Mishimoto systems? Are they worth the money? My truck pulls 10k lbs daily and is a huge part of my business. I tow up mountain passes weekly (6-7% grade).
Another thing to think about thermodynamics is that metal expands and contracts under that heating and cooling uncontrollably that it as best as possible keeps those parts from failing so it's not just just keeping the heater under control it's more keeping the expansion and contraction of the dissimilar metals from overreacting from heat and contact each other causing fatigue to the point of failure. And actually lubricant is another form of dissipation of heat as well as lubrication, otherwise they would put soft Metals in lubrication. I remember the same debate about using cast iron heads and aluminum heads on a cast iron block and if you didn't keep the block cool the aluminum heads warp to failure quicker than snot
Hey bill, I know I’m commenting a bit late here but I just thought of a question I’ve had in the back of my mind for awhile, I’ve got an 01’ Dodge with a Cummins in it, but for this question it should be pretty universal as compared to say a 7.3, I just bought this truck, motor has 180K on it, the guy told me he’d been adding that Lucas oil stabilizer to the engine for the time he drove it (wasn’t much. 10k miles or so, he just used it to haul a hay trailer every season) I know that stuff usually is pretty thick and can somewhat increase the thickness of the oil if I’m not mistaken, but from what I can see inside the motor from shining a light through the hole for the oil cap and looking at the bottom of the oil cap the engine has no sludge or anything and the oil on the cap when I pull it off feels about like 15w40 should. Would you recommend I switch to archoil like I’m wanting to or since he’d been running this oil stabilizer in the engine that I just keep using it?
Hey Bill, I need my 84 6.9 bulletproofed. Are you making bulldog heads for it? Mint.
Send it to the ketchup.
Ford dealers do not always have strips available for sale to the public...gotta buy them in a pack?
They are also available on Amazon.
I have a 2013 with 74,000 miles. I have a coolant smell as if a leak outside the truck after it warms up on the primary side. I lose about 1 gallon of coolant a year and no puddles ever. I have taken it to Ford and was told " to keep and eye on the level and if it gets worse to bring it back". I replaced the cap to the gas bottle and still have a smell. I'm a retired firefighter and living on a budget and of course out of warranty, and don't want to throw a bunch of money at it to not find the problem. Any ideas, or suggestion would greatly be appreciated. Thanks, Marshall
First I'd perform a cooling system pressure test to see if it is holding pressure. Most parts stores will loan you the tool kit. Next I'd pull an oil sample and send it out for analysis to see if you are getting any coolant into the engine oil. Contact me for further details. (678) 787-3028.
I've been using Peak Final Charge Global coolant on my fords. 6.0 and 6.7.
Would you recomend the current coolant being offered by Ford?
How does coolant come into play after deleted egr and tuned?
Still need to follow Ford's recommendations, or stay tuned for our next series of 6.7 coolant videos for an alternative.
Is the Service video uploaded?
Thanks for sharing this Bill; do plan to or have you already done a vid like this for the 6.0? Again, thanks for this awesome content!
He has already on this channel.
Bring back the 7.3!!!!
They did, it will be on the 2020 model. Too bad it’s gas....
My charge air cooler looks like it’s leaking at the turbo pipes any ideas? Oil...?
ya 6.7 sounds great....lol
What's the built date on your 2011 truck, Bill?
Now I have a 2019 Ford F-350 6.7 an my coolant is green now a buddy of mine has a 17 an his looks red I’m lost why change so many times? With the same engine?
Another Ford better idea. Ford will change to different parts 3 or more times through the same production run. You almost always need the production month to look up parts for Fords. They are an night mare for a parts person but also keep them gainfully employed. lol
They constantly change things in the engine. Here's a link:
www.powerstrokehub.com/6.7-model-year-changes.html
I don't think it mentions coolant anywhere though
Bill talked about coolant today.
I still won't put that Ford piss in a bottle in my truck.
I'll be providing information about a coolant alternative at the end of the upcoming 6.7 Powerstroke Coolant Service videos. Stay tuned.
We've filmed the coolant service video, but it may take a couple of weeks to get it edited and uploaded. Contact me directly at (678) 787-3028 if you want to learn more about the coolant I used in Bill's truck. It wasn't Motorcraft Orange and it will last 5 years / 150,000 miles.
Hey Bill, you crap all over 6.4's and your shop no longer services 7.3's?!! Why don't you change the name of your shop? Power Stroke Specialty is a little misleading...
Can I use ORANGE coolant from any other manufacturer?????? The back of the jug says it is Ford compliant. iT'S DEXCOOL
Not recommended. DEX-COOL has loads of problems.
Best-Synthetic-Oils.com only when you don’t change it. Been running dexcool for years. Just change every 5 years or 150,000 miles. Ive only ever seen problems with dexcool due to poor maintenance
Damn EPA making our trucks a bunch of shit.
Holy hell
Tons of failures waiting to happen
Like what? Lots of 6.7's with 300K+ miles.
If you get to retirement or the end of the month... and you have no money... hopefully the light bulb will light up and you will realize“I’ve spent all my money on a diesel.” $Huge payments, $huge repairs, $registration costs, $insurance. Not too fuckin bright.
That's the most piss-poor design I've ever seen for a cooling system why would you need for thermostats to operate a regular pickup truck diesel fuel Burns better with more heat