James O'Brien's fiery call with a man who says Black Lives Matter has "gone too far" | LBC
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- This is James O'Brien's fiery call with a man who says that the Black Lives Matter movement has gone too far, as he prepares to go to London to protect statues from vandalism.
Black Lives Matter demonstrators are returning to London this weekend to continue their protests that got out of hand with a minority of protesters last week.
But a group of counter-protesters, including Tommy Robinson, have pledged to travel to the capital to stand guard by Winston Churchill's statue.
Lee called in to say that he will be one of those people protecting the monuments and said he felt it is going to descend into black v white violence.
He said: "It's putting a bigger divide over race. There's going to be trouble between black and white people. It's coming."
But James pointed out: "No, it's not going to be divided by race any more than your friendship group is.
"What are you cross about?"
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As an American watching these interviews, I really wish that we had more personalities on our airwaves that tore people people's ignorance down with logic like this rather than just shouting over them
The cool, calm and collected manner of an educated Brit always gives me comfort.
@Alex Green - Have found they couldn't care less about logic. Scratch the surface and they want the same things as us, but all they know are chants and slogans.
When the audience isn't sophisticated, screaming sells.
had em for years. No One listened that mattered.
In the US, you have podcasts offered by the Atheist Community of Austin (ACA). It's about 20 years now for "Atheist Experience". There are now several different call in shows with different hosts, and different approaches on the platform. They focus less on politics, and more on epistemology.
As a black man viewing this, it was beautiful seeing this! Pointing out these double talking hypocrites!
Do you agree with statues being pulled down? Including that of Winston Churchill?
@Lynette Agueda appreciate u speaking out 💯
@Lynette Agueda absolutely 💯💪🏾
@Lynette Agueda i’m so very glad that your eyes are open and your mind is clear. And you actually see them for who they are and I Truly thank you🙏🏾👍🏿✊🏿😎
@@davidz2562 why not, if yhe authorities aren't interested in hearing what people have to say, or there should have been more thought about them in the first place?
You appear to be worried about these statues. Without looking it up, can you name three?
"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
@@cockoffgewgle4993 No idea what your talking about.
@@cockoffgewgle4993 What is a CRT?
@@cockoffgewgle4993 Ill pass.
@Cockoff Gewgle sounds about white....
' Equality feels like oppression' .....pow!!!! love it...
I love how he always makes them say the quiet part out loud.
The man's a surgeon.
masterfully
The idiots would get more respect if they were open about it, cowards really.
@@Insertnamehere287 I have a different perspective I'm willing to tell anyone I think this ideology is poisonous
@Lynette Agueda Marxism is the belief that people are in two categories the aggressors and the victims, if theres any disparity in stats its not necessarily racism
I always wondered why James is squinting so much. And then it ocurred to me: he's trying to see the point these callers try to make.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
haha , nah it's the two computer monitors on his desk (touch screens) whch throw up twitter responses and fact check stuff for him - it's why he sometimes waves his hand behind the camera - he's using hand signals to tell them to do X or Y etc.
Absolutely brilliant!
🤣🤣🤣
Lol! Love it.
When you feel the need to say 'I have black friends' you're not on the rights side of things
It's normally a left wing socialist thing to say that sort of thing, just like they want you to know they're also a vegan...
Not anymore if they heard him
@@ericrivera8410 They are probably Uncle Toms
I refuse to refer to people by skin color, but I live in northern California...we are all one here!!😎🌴
Actually, it's when they say "I have black friends, but...". I love my many black friends, and I would never use them to further a debate in a negative way. I do appreciate your sentiment, however.
I just discovered this guy and he is BRILLIANT when he dismantles his callers.
How would you feel if BLM pulled down the Winston Churchill statue & dumped it in the Thames? Would you applaud that?!
@@davidz2562 huh? WTH are you talking about?
Unless you are making your point then he cuts you off
@@markmeandering446 BLM & their allies enjoy pulling down statues, such as the one in Bristol. They want to pull down the Winston Churchill statue in Westminster.
@@davidz2562 It is only a statue. It could stay or go and it would be all the same.
I wonder how his black friends feel about him marching up to London to protect the states of the people that enslaved their ancestors. Threw live people into the sea to be eaten by sharks because they were surplus to requirements. Made the children of their ancestors slaves from the day they were born. Whipped them, hung them at their whims. Personally if I was one of his black friends I would disown him.
I think we all know that he doesn't have any black friends.
The problem is that, they have black friends who comform to what their standard of a black person should be, they find it very hard to understand other people who don't comform to that standard
Soso Lawson
No, he doesn’t have black friends. He probably knows people that are black, but that’s not the same. He’s almost certainly never asked their opinion on stuff like this.
Would you have a problem if a statue of Emperor Nero was put up in London?
Jamie why?
I’ve got black friends...never a bigger 🚩 ..
absolutely.......:-)
Having no black friends is worse, surely?
I haven't got one 😁
Not really a red flag but also not really needed to be said. Your allowed an opinion even without black friends
@@sslgbtisheretostaygetme6527 you're allowed an opinion when you can tell the difference between your and you're.
This guy : “we should be talking about coronavirus.”
Also this guy : “I’m not taking no vaccine.”
Big brain power has been activated.
And I think we can assume the double negative was not intentional.
@@Darth_Bateman Sorry I though that was an actual qoute.
This guy is so thick
@@TheCoD3Veteranhe’s a Fug.
"I've got black friends" a phrase almost exclusively spoken by people who don't have black friends. 🤷♂️
72 people actually liked this comment.. 😩 I rest my case we all doomed
They don’t have black friends. They know black people. They may have black coworkers.
@@patrickkelly6590 What's the issue with people liking this comment?
@@oxymoron02 it's self explanatory
@@oxymoron02 he is triggered leave him alone.
Lee (the caller) is more concerned about inanimate objects than he is about the lives of black people. Extraordinary.
He’s worried about people using BLM to promote anarchy and destroy statues that mean a lot to people in the UK. In a way James agrees with him, that white middle class youths have been using BLM to vandalise public property
Hes more concerned about our history and the right to preserve it
@@mikehooper8868 you can preserve history without building monuments to worship white supremacists.
Because as he said, they've been there so long. Guess we black people were invented after the statues of white supremacists. Smdh
@@richardellis8076 Or you can just preserve history, remember history will repeat itself if we forget it, plus it's our history and culture and its being destroyed at every turn maybe some of us white British want to preserve our heritage, most people in the 16th and 17th centuries were white supremacists and now we know of their ignorance we won't repeat it unless done onto us which is happening right now.
Of course he goes right to the “I’ve got black friends” line 😂
He must mean Priti Patel.
My girlfriends cousins boyfriend's friend had a black neighbor🤣🤣🤣
I can’t be a murderer because some of my friends are alive…….
I bet this chap has black friends (people that are of color near him are his “friends “)
He should have been asked if he thought their lives matter.
“It’s gone too far” = “I’m finally struggling to keep ignoring it”
It's hard to ignore savage behavior.
It’s gone too far- stop giving black people so much attention.
I don’t think many people who were ignoring it in 2014 are ignoring it any less nowadays. This guy was likely complaining like this years ago, it just wasn’t in the news.
@@lucascoval828 - Like slavery. That's why the statues are coming down.
@@iExploder
Get a job.
As an American, I would like to say that I'm relieved and frightened that this kind of stupidity isn't solely an American problem.
LOL right? Like do they have some nonsense they've got to worry about? Like the impending economic consequences of Brexit? At least you have public healthcare in GB.
its a global phenomenon. Its life. You live it, and you will constantly encounter those with differing viewpoints and opinions as well as those who blurt stuff out but can't 'explain themselves'. Its life. You get one only, just live yours forget about those who disagree with you :-)
I 2nd your Emotion, I was thinking the very same thing as you.
@@matttran7161 Brexit and anti-BLM are in the same vein. Racism has no boundaries.
@@atrantech11 the word racism is a joke anymore people misuses the word for what it means the word racism means a person that thinks they race is Superior not Becaz I disagree with someone and do you back ground check on the dem party and realize what they stand for you believe a lie before you believe the truth example what they taught us about Christopher Columbus in high school but when you do research on him he isn’t nothing like the school books say now is he here’s another example like tmz they said tyson was beating some dude up for no reason and everyone else that reported it said Becaz the kid threw a water bottle at him the kid assault and battery on tyson by hitting him with an object tyson just defended himself not they trying to say it’s tyson fault and people believes that you learn one day
This is the example of being a hypocrite with a touch of double standard. Wow.
I believe a brilliant question to ask would be "What about the Jimmy Saville statue? Why was it ok that one was taken down? It's a part of history too"
That is exactly the question I have asked many people "why wouldn't you want a statue of Jimmy Savile in your town?, and make the link..
My response would be that what Jimmy saville did broke moral standards of the time, colston didn't break any moral or legal codes of his time. Looking back we can say slavery was bad but at the time it was normal, we can't judge historical people by the same luxurious standards we hold today.
@@oyoyism Pretty sure they knew at the time it was extremely wrong to own and exploit people. And that's what matters. Not what was accepted by parts of society at the time.
@@oyoyism it wasn't morally wrong to kidnap and enslave people?! Yes it was just some (rich and powerful) people didn't gaf back then.
honestly statues in general are pretty tacky, one of the ultimate demonstrations of man's hubris
that look at mount rushmore, men so arrogant they thought their faces should be carved into a mountain
“I’ll be out there during a pandemic I think is very important to hurt anyone who tries to do anything to this inanimate object that honors something I think was wrong!”
I'm an American who started watching Premier League 7 years ago and the amount of abuse black players have taken from "supporters" in the seats is atrocious. I don't understand why it was allowed to happen as long as it was before the league started banning them.
I like the football but learned to never go unless you're straight and white. The amount of times I've been ganged up on and abused is ridicu
Go look up grooming gang scandal in Rotherham England and you will find that's not all that's allowed
Because white, that's why.
I bet you've started watching Premier league football at a club in London. Not all football is that way, never has been, come to the Midlands clubs and see the difference.
Oh dear, this level of racisim is endemic in this country, I wonder which way he voted in the referendum.
I wonder which way you voted and how white your neighbourhood is.
Probably didn't vote - he couldn't spell "X'...
Sadly, racism and bigotry are Worldwide and at high levels.
White supremacy organisations are recruiting online. And, during covid, millions of people who didn’t want to wear a mask started getting ads for white pride sites and QAnon.
Racism is a Pandemic.
Its human nature, when have people calling for black pride then white people will do the same for their pride and whatever else racial lines from other groups
THats obvious
You know the mentality of a person when they say “I have got black friends”
OMG if everyone asks questions the way this brother does, the world would be a far better place. Just discovered this show as well and it is an impressive play of Logic that he displays. We need a guy/ show like this in North America to dismantle the utter none sense taking over this hemisphere by ignorant politicians and their followers of all stripes.
I agree with you about asking these king of questions.sad thing is people of color have been asking and marching to these kind of question for years but we can't hear them because people get so bent out of shape when it comes from us.
You say this but James has been doing this for years and yet still has a steady stream of ignorant bigots phoning in!
David Pakman is similar.
@@riggmeister I like David Pakman, but Jordan Klepper is KING at this kind of thing across the pond!
@@davel9514 I love that guy too, does he do his own UA-cam show/call in show? I thought he was a comedian that did timely comedy bits for other shows; his work humiliating Trumpists just by going up to them and asking them simple questions was outstanding though! 🤣
Did he say”I’ve got black friends!”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As soon as anyone says "I've got black friends", you instantly know that they haven't!
Or they do, but that doesnt mean they arent biased
@@flyguyry1 No, if they are biased then those "friends" aren't really friends.
@@sierraromeoromeo2444 no, i have like 50 black friends. Ive been in their weddings. Ive lived with them. Ive been to their countries of birth. Ive dated black women. And Im still biased. Bc im white and live in a white dominated society. Im less biased than most white ppl i would say, but still biased. The thing is, i admit my bias. Almost all whites cant. And we cant challenge our bias and start to heal if we first dont admit we have it. Even that white guy who raised a black daughter wrote about how he was biased against black people. It permeates every aspect of our society. Especially the media. As white people, we cant NOT be biased. It sux. But the only way to improve is to acknowlege it so when we do see black ppl and it makes us feel "uncomfortable" we say in our minds, "thats just my bias, not reality."
For me. I am white. I am generally liberal in things. But this blm thing. i am tired now of being preached to. I done many things in my life with women, friends, work, interacting with black people and this constant barrage of the same message. Its getting hysterical. Things need to calm down. People should stop acting like social justice warriors and just chill out
I’ve known a guy for years that only befriends black conservatives who claim racism isn’t a thing anymore so that he can say racism is over. It’s incredibly disturbing.
Replying to Black Lives Matter with "All lives matter" is the same as claiming that deforestation doesn't need to be addressed because the three trees in your back yard are thriving. It's basically bringing an issue to the forefront that needs attention now. Claiming that black lives matters is not claiming that any other lives don't, no more than claiming your front, driver's side tire needs air is admitting that the other three tires don't need any at all.
The "I have black friends" line is hilarious lol, that dude doesn't have one single black friend!
He probably describes them to other people as 'that black guy I was talking to'
just that one guy that he speaks to at his building site
Philip José Farmer river world series made a point of calling out that trope using Captain Richard Burton and Hermann Göring.
And he is a perfect example as to why this country is in trouble.
Not only this country . . .
The US too.
Brexit in shell.........they have no critical thinking skills.
James obrian or the caller ?
@@ashjitsu the caller obviously
Education is a beautiful thing
Innit
😂😭
If only everyone had some!
Nice one.😅
Yeah, wicked, cool, awesome.
So is common sense and fairness, neither of which o'Brien has an ounce of
James has honestly got the patience of a Saint... these numbskulls he deals with are just appalling
He loves taking them apart clearly 😂
Imagine having such a soft, pampered life that your biggest problem was worrying if a statue was or wasn't where you saw it last.
@Cian MacGana I don't get your point. Where are the statues of MLK and Ghandi you want to remove?
@Cian MacGana Ghandi did change though
We need to remove the colosseum
@Cian MacGana take down all statues. That's not a strange take. Statues are just advertising for dead people. If there is a need to put up a statue chances are that person was probably a bit of a c**t somewhere along the line.
@Cian MacGana Jimmy Saville did a lot for kids. Let's put up a statue of him?
“ I got black friends” makes me want to scream…
He won’t have any black friends after they hear this.
His Black “friends” are acquaintances or colleagues who “see” him and acknowledge him in an effort to keep the peace as it were.
People like this never actually have any meaningful genuine friendships with Black people. They don’t really want to.
Phat bambi then get some help if you get upset by what others say lok
@@attackpatterndelta8949 🥱
I feel sorry for Lee, he can’t articulate his thoughts and he can’t see past himself. Sums up a lot of working class up in the UK, it’s a national failure in our education system.
yeh, trouble is they're also sort of the ones voting for all of it...
“working class” are bright, articulate and keep society and our country running. Maybe you should get a job and see how most “working class” really are. Love to know how your living expenses are paid you not having to work. So where are you from? Maybe you should have a look at your own education system you know because here up in the UK most 4 year olds know you spell “wurm” with an O.
@@gedjones5977 touchy touchy
Just shows the total and complete lack of tolerance of some people. James is brilliant - he carefully and pointedly dissects every argument until he ties his opponent in knots.
@@ae112 we all smell
Imagine a rando British guy caring about taking Confederate statues down (then later says "We're not in America") when most of those statues were put up during the Civil Rights Movement as a REACTION to the Civil Rights Movement.
That caller is so uneducated
savage.. wish every reporter was like this towards childish behavior
Was the taring down of the Colston statue and throwing it into the river in Bristol mature then? Not defending either side but not sure how wanting to protect statues is childish but wanting to vandalize them isn't.
Al Capwn, listen to James o Brien again !
@@aughalough1
Tearing things down.
Burning things down.
Savage behavior.
@lucascoval828 yet you didn't whine about savages during football game destruction.
He should have been a crown prosecutor . Amazing how he can cut to the bone so swiftly .
No, he's taking on an easy target - someone who's clearly uneducated.
@@davidz2562 Educating the uneducated. Sounds like a noble cause to me.
@@davidz2562 you’re not lying . His handlers do set these callers up like bowling pins . But wouldn’t you allow , he does deserves credit for exposing motivations that only become apparent on his close questioning ?
James O'Brien gives a brilliant example of how reason and calm trumps anger and emotion.
You haven't seen him in conversation with Jacob Reese Mogg have yoy
Funny enough I did and thought that was an exception. I commented somewhere on one of those videos that James o Brien started by huffing and puffing and finished with a question clearly designed to trap JRM but which JRM didn't rise to. My comment didn't elicit much sympathy, probably because most people on UA-cam know how to champion their heroes without actually giving a fair assessment. I'm someone who agrees with James o Brien against JRM but he was still poor in interviewing him.
I'm sure he's the kind of guy who complains about foreigners stealing "our jobs" as well.
Best one I've ever seen was an English man living in benidorm praising the Spanish hospitals for not having immigrants clogging up the queue
I guarantee you he doesnt have a job himself.
The amount of patience and calm this man brings to the discussion is inspiring. Absolutely love to see intelligent discussion in a calm, clear manner.
He’s manipulative and unwilling to have a fruitful conversation would rather prove himself right his arrogance is unbearable
@@johnrab5302 How so?
@@R4lNW0LF the man has literally wrote a book about how to be right don’t know if there’s anything more egotistical to do, al give him that he’s a beast at winning an argument but winning an argument is less important than being open minded to those who disagree with you, he does nothing in terms of creating discussion go bring people together rather he creates echo chambers for his listeners I used to listen everyday at work at the start I agreed but I had to stop listening because he single-handedly was turning me conservative coming from a staunch SNP voter
🤢👎
@@johnrab5302 and if the people who disagree with you are plainly wrong, or being arseholes?
Continually the dumbest argument ever: "something has been some way for a long time so it should always remain that way".
james is probably the most bias person out their.he is the only person who can turn the words this guy was trying to get over.Horrible man i thought presenters were supposed to be impartial,his pal diane abbott has gone very quiet when black youths attack the police in her own area ,this is going to get a lot worse because mandella will have to come down and gahndi also.then she will reappear
Just found Mr. O'brien today and have been on a binge. He is everything!
he is brilliant welcome
He certainly is 👍
I feel sorry for you. It's probably the worst person to binge watch, especially this topic.
@@ohm7876 What you talking about he dismantled Piers Morgan with a smile on his face!
@@ohm7876 then why are you here? Just leave, I promise no one will miss you.
i've got black friends . . . did he really say that???????
I have always wanted to care about white people's feelings when I am trying to highlight the injustices perpetuated on me by other white people 🤔
Haha! You shouldn't. Hurting one's feelings based on ignorante and misplaced views is the only way to get through to them. It might take a day, a month or even a life time, but it's the only way✌️
@@padzzz9377 I could not agree with you more but when you see the blushing of those cheeks & the tears forming in those blue/green eyes ,one cannot help but feel a twinge of something 😜
What injustices perpetuated on you.
@@ntandosekay see you want to provoke and attack white ppl.msybe you should just leave white people alone
Did you have something specific happen to you or is this a generalised injustice perpetuated by all white people in general?
James obrien, he simply gives them enough rope..
He even tries to hold the rope back now and again, in the hopes they'll see that they're about to hang themselves on national radio, but they're just too stubborn to listen to James and let him explain to them what they're doing wrong and why, they then, blame James for the fact that *they're there, just about to hang themselves,* then they yank the last bit of rope from his hands, and release the trapdoor and fall to their inevitable demise. 🤷🏽♀️
@@elanynch4049 Nope. He makes people back up their claims with evidence. Which is a standard he holds himself to.
@@elanynch4049 are you saying this blokes opinion is actually valid then ? If so then maybe explain why
@@elanynch4049 I did ask first maybe you should of answered my question first
@@elanynch4049 I correct that the you . They could not present a coherent argument so why bother going to the effort of phoning a national radio station to make yourself sound like a prize plum
@@elanynch4049 An opinion is preferring butter on toast. Saying a political movement that is trying to stop racism is akin to a terrorist organisation is a conclusion that needs some explanation.
We've sent children up chimney for years but we don't do that now.....bravo
I get the feeling that all the people who suddenly care about preserving statues have never spent more than two seconds glancing at a statue in their lives. If it was to do with libraries they'd all be acting like they care about books. Bunch of lying hypocrites.
"..statchoos, and wot dey've dun' an' all that.."
anf ings lie at "and things like that"
Truly inspiring words
Jew no wot ah meen
🤦🏾♂️
@@dustyboi8975 He has all the best words....
James is better at cornering his bigot callers than would a lawyer from Law & Order
Hearing him say I've got black friends tells me all i need to know
5:23 "what you going to be doing tomorrow?", "Stopping anyone attacking statues!". LOL
I'm binge watching James he is so brutally honest and it's refreshing!!!
his the opposite of brutal tf
He gets ignorant people on always never anyone who knows what they taking about
I don't know about london, but the statues in america were put up to intimidate POC trying to vote
“I’ve got black friends”
*visible wince*
I’ll talk to the black bloke who works in the plumbing trade supplies.
If you don't like the history of a certain country just go somewhere else.
So we should be okay with having statues celebrating war criminals and slavers? I thought Britain was a county that fought against injustice, not one that celebrates it. Maybe I was mistaken.
If only the British Empire took your advice.
@Joe Toff I'm just responding to the "if you dont like the history go elsewhere" comment which implies that the british empire did not go to other people and force their history upon them. It's an elementary argument.
"Stop killing us". That's what it's about. Thanks Jim.
He literally did the "I have black friends." In the words of Jesse Lee Peterson, "amazing!"
Those black people are not his friends
This caller does not know one black person and does not understand the issues that black people face in the UK and he's free to speak as ignorantly as he wants
What issues do black people face in the UK?
I love how James has this big smoothing voice that can lead you into admitting your prejudices....
I love James Not totally woke
😂😂😂😂 When he said, "I've got black friends" I began laughing hysterically and I haven't been able to stop yet.
In general, we need this guys voice herd everyday in America. From this conversation to political American conversations this man just understands moral. Something that’s now set aside in the general American public and government.
The problem with James is that he is too leftist, he carries the view that everything that’s happening is ok and we shouldn’t worry about things, watch his interview with Piers. He spends the entire interview asking piers why anything he says matters and then tells piers he needs to talk about things that matter …
The way he dissects ignorant people is MASTERFUL!!
Anyone who knows British history knows that we were slaves too the Romans, the Anglo-Saxons and then the Vikings all took slaves from Britain the list goes on, we just don't go on and on about it ... It is a part of our history...
But we don't have statues to celebrate those who enslaved us.
This comment is too funny
@Abs nope the first people the Britons were here first then the celts came over from Central Europe... Then the Romans came over around 55 BC the saxons and Vikings came over between 406 - 1066 AD... Now who's the idiot lol
@@thebigeasy87 no but we don't need to erase our past either... Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it... I wonder if anyone today is banning smart phones as they are made by slaves today?...
@@phishfoood I'm glad to be of service 😁
Love watching o'brian's expressions when he's trying to articulate his callers that lack any substantial intelligence 😂
Now that LBC have fired Nigel Farage and promoting James O'Brien, they might as well change their name to "Leftwing Broadcasting Corporation". I'll be unsubscribing and moving onto talkRADIO instead.
I used to love Lbc buts its changing their values
James O’Brien and Farage both had slots at the same time. LBC isn’t promoting any particular part of the political spectrum and surely is not bias. Farage was dropped for comparing an equal rights movement to a extremist terrorist organisation. I do agree with you on the point he should not have been dropped, there should always be room for debate even if Farage is like some strange imperialist from the 18th century.
What made this apparently striking is the caller wanted to go out and protect statues, even if he didn't know the history behind said statutes. He even said 'but that's history' (paraphrase) What have we become!
40 years of right wing press, Tory agenda of lowering education standards despite the hard work of teachers. And deliberately keeping those areas starved of resources. They are winning so far. Hence a Brexit, hence Johnson up there impersonating a Prime Minister. Hence people saying, this is terrible! We need change! And then voting for the very party that brought about the terrible conditions they want to change!
It would be so nice if people held these folk in America accountable like this gentleman.
The beauty of James style is he very rarely makes any statements. Rather he asks questions and doesn't move on until they are honesty answered, making any cognitive dissonance very apparent.
I find this caller's attitude menacing on a couple of levels, listening to him I was transported back to London of the 1980s where casual racism and bigotry were part of everyday conversation. Living in London as I did then and being a Scot was also not immune to a certain degree of abuse.
However, living in London was the only time in my life I had ever felt really threatened. One incident was when I was with an Irish and Black coworker in a bar and a small mob came up to us and said we don't let N*gger Micks of Jocks drink here. Were it not for the intervention of the barmaid I'm sure it could have gotten very messy.
When I left London to work on the continent in 1998 I had hoped that such a degree of racism and bigotry were in the past. But sadly it seems under this Tory government these people have once again felt confident and safe enough to crawl back out from underneath their rocks.
I'm indifferent to the statues tbh. There really the last thing on the list of changes that need to be made. Let's decrease poverty, crime, increase the standard of living, job opportunities. There is still 100's of buildings that have dangerous Grenfell cladding. Then after all that get's sorted, I'd consider putting the more offensive statues in a museum. Simple.
@Lewis Marais I take your not part of the " we "
What better way to bring society together and raise them up than by reminding a significant portion of it that they are historically less than equal, and the majority population have been living it relatively sweet off the backs of the formers ancestors.
I’m waiting for the petition to start up to put The Jimmy Savile statue back up… And then I want a copy of everyone who signed it.
The most offensive statues, put them through a crush ... recycle them... Simple
All of this can be done at the same time...
I only wish I could have 10 mins speaking with O,brien the arrogant know it all
Call in then🤷🏻♂️
Try to call him show him up for what he is and you will never get to though again.
Harry Barry That’s something he’d say
If you disagree with him, he will talk over you.
I don't even know this guy lol but he seems like an arrogant pratt like 😛
Imagine being James's black friends (if they actually exist) imagine him ranting and raving how a statue of a slaver is more important than their basic human rights. If only this energy directed at preserving statues of slavers was actually directed at the push for equality just imagine what we could achieve. You want the statue there because you believe the 'natural order' of things to be that black people should be under the foot or knee of the white man, that's the only reason you want it to remain. To remind us minorities of 'our place'.
Brits and Americans should be reminded what happened the last time a people were not represented in government.
If you find yourself saying “I’ve got black friends”… maybe give yourself a moment to reflect.
Perfect example of someone made to feel strongly about something just because someone else said it's important....
All you'd have to do to reverse this callers position is re-frame it. "Why should this man who treated people terribly have a statue up of him just because he was wealthy?!". He obviously has no reasoned connection to his position, it's all following his peer and emotional attachments to it.
Watching James O' Brien for a minute it's amazing to see how some people simply do not question/ critically examine their own beliefs. It's like Step 1 is "get angry" and step 2 "explain and understand why angry" NEVER gets taken
Why is this caller more concerned about statutes rather than human beings? Also, the Black Lives Matter movement started with Trayvon Martin, not George Floyd.
The caller's right, the protestors went too far by damaging public property that they saw as unjust within their limited frame of mind.
The statues weren't harming anyone's rights, they weren't lynching people for the colour of their skin, so what cause could be so morally pure that these vandals can be excused from their use of force? In time, the protestors could have had the statue taken down democratically, so that everyone's opinions could be considered and balanced, but instead they chose force.
Everyone is imperfect and can get things wrong, so it is not ok to go around breaking things just because, within our limited frame of mind, we think those objects represent injustice.
As A white woman with a bi-racial child I always ask people who say “I have black friends”, when was the last time you had those black friends over to your house?
Why would you invite someone round your house who thinks that you secretly hate them?🤔
@@davidatkinson5858 black people live their whole lives not knowing what white people honestly think of them. But if you treat them like you would be want them to treat you, then you should invite them. Maybe you should open your heart to other humans. Just saying
@@Juju-bm1sh I do and I have....I'm a white man with 4 mixed race children and my judgements ,such as they are, are based on experiences not assumptions so please don't be patronising
@@Juju-bm1sh also your comment about " black people live their whole lives not knowing what white people think of them " what does that even mean? People are just people , it's a bit like racism to say that all white people have the same opinions on black people don't you think?. I don't know what Chinese people think about me but it's not a massive burden on my life is it?
@@davidatkinson5858 but your white, I guess and we aren’t raised to think that anybody thinks bad of us. It is not surprising that people of color have to always keep in the back of their mind what white people honestly think of them. Again I think if you surround yourself with people of other races you would be amazed that they are just like anyone else. Avoidance is never the answer. Again opening your heart to others will always open others hearts to you.
Well done JAMES, handle fragile minds gently mate.😑👍
This James is a prat full stop
@@garystokes6407 so is your grammar.
"We've put children up chimneys for years too but that doesn't make it right." 😆
If it was said BLMT (Black Lives Matter Too) people like him will have something negative to say as well.
" You don't make things better by joining the people who are doing it wrong " Brilliant.
This is a lack of education - it’s sad because he does not even understand concepts like systemic racism or how oppression works. Abs it has nothing to do with class, it’s just education
Agree I’m working class, but I managed to get myself a decent education. I recognise much of my family in this caller.
Where is that systematic racism when black people are picked for jobs over white people because they want more diversity?
@@JJaqn05 I really don’t understand this comment
@@JJaqn05 I really don’t understand this comment
Who is really educated. And what do you structure education as. As pouring scorn on a man rather than listening to his point of view, doesnt seem very wise
Hey Lee, when are you going to start demanding they put back up the Jimmy Savile statue?
I wonder how much medication James is on daily to be so far detached from reality.
His medication clearly isn't working
He's not on any! That's why he's out of touch with reality. He needs to go back on it to balance his delusional mind.
If anyone's far from reality it's you, he thinks racism is unacceptable
@@James-jl4jt as well as anyone else's opinion.
Why would anyone want to keep an offensive statue?
Because what some people might find offensive, other people might find historically important. People can find offense in everything, in which case you could potentially topple just about every statue ever made in the last 200 years!
They never want to see it in reverse that's why the can never answer the why.😔😔😔
The caller is about as smart as he sounds...
I find these clips so interesting. These guys will eventually break down and admit things that make them look bad. In the USA, people WILL NOT do that. They will either change the topic, do "whatabout-isms", start yelling, or hang up. They know that the argument they are making has a deviant thought process behind it, the other person knows, but they REFUSE to admit it.
Actually, I've watched a fair bit of JOB now in the last week or two after UA-cam recommending it, and in 99% of cases his callers do the very things you're talking about - they try to talk over him loudly, they go in circles and employ heavy "whatboutism" or be civil but keep looping around to the same nonsensical line of thinking until they just go quiet and the call ends. Very, very few of his callers actually admit they were wrong about something, which is comforting as it shows that we in the US do not have exclusivity on willful ignorance, bigotry and obnoxious behavior.
I cannot take anymore - someone get me out of here - but it is like an addiction when people tie themselves in knots. :-)
"I have Black friends." There it is... That didn't take long.
Politely making people sound like an idiot...
That truly gets to what a conservative is. "It's always been this way so that's how it should be."
He’s like a therapist bringing the idiots out of their idiot fog. Lol “So it’s okay that they were horrible people who did horrible things but we should leave the statues up because they’ve been there for a long time now?” 😂😂 You can almost hear the realization in the caller’s voice but they’d not dare admit it.
Nelson Mandela was a terrorist that killed innocent civilians wasn't he? You want to tear down his statues then?
James avoids people that he can't talk down to. He blocks anyone that does not agree with him. Believe me his team carefully vets everyone he talks to. LBC is allowing only one side to talk. James a message to you. Please wake up and smell the coffee, you are not the voice of reason you are the voice of James O'Brien. :-) Only your views are correct of course, learn to listen to others !!!
Not a single person in US mainstream corporate media ever speaks with this kind of honesty.
Recognise the human race as one. Yes , human life should be valued. Afro Caribbean people do exist , they do live on this planet. They do live just like the English. They have a right to breathe the air , just like everybody else.
Love this dude. “Just the facts, ma’am.” James be spitting the truth, Ruth!