"Dead on arrival"! "unwieldy boat with subpar missiles"! "most people recognise its not going to be particularly good"! What's your favorite Su-33 insult that also applies to you? i relate hard with "It serves no purpose in the tech tree"
Oh god you're right 😭i just found a few images and it's just an area with a few warning lights and some switches and stuff... i guess its time for a redux video where it's just me correcting all the inaccuracies
The crazy thing about Kuznetsov is that it's probably the worst ship in it's class. Ukraine sold Varyag to China in the 2000s and it's had a pretty incident-free career, and China completed their own called Shandong which has also been doing alright. Also weird to think that the USSR was only a few years away from having a proper nuclear catapult carrier with Ulyanovsk. Alas just another thing lost in the collapse.
>loading up the su-33 to play an air RB match >"[Operation] Sinai, 202X" >not this fucking map again >the kuznetsov is 6000 miles away from the rest of the battle >can't take off because the deck is blocked with equipment >everyone in chat is screaming about fox 3s and rafales >23 minutes into the 25 minute long match, the PD-50 dry dock falls directly onto my plane >"Your aircraft is critically damaged. Repair is not available." >somehow still get more points on the team than the guy who spaceclimbed and did nothing
1. leave me my soviet flag on Kusnezow. It looks much better than russian navy flag!!!! 2. the wire won't break always at a certain speed, it broke after 1000s of landings, also this happend to US and GB carriers too. 3. It's not clear what's gonna happen with P-700, some claim it will get replaced with more place for aircraft, some say it stays on the carrier.... 4. the smoke pictures are fake. If engines fail, that won't be a problem for the planes. Also we don't know what modifications they did on the engines in the last years, so maybe that problem got fixed (only new turbines/completely new propulsion (maybe even nuclear reactor like on ice breakers/Kirow)) 5. the dock got replaced by putting two smaller ones together. 6. with Liaoning you loose the P-700, Kinschal's, Kortik, AK-630 and RBUs, just to get 3 chinese CIWS and a total of 54 SAM. Also i'm not sure if chinese propulsion is really better than the ukrainian one that was in Kusnezow until 2018, sine Warjaggot sold WITH propulsion, although both Ukraine and China said it was without. I understand that this is a parody but those are in my opinion some real mistakes by you/you exaggerated too much.
i think with the 82 Red incident, most of the reports say the arrestor cable failed because "the plane was coming in at too great of a speed" - here's a video of it ua-cam.com/video/IrioQwb7YtE/v-deo.html (and of course it's happened with the US carriers as well, as well as just... in general?? thinking back to the time when the US Navy tested out their F-35 submarine project in the south china sea 😳) i'm hoping the refit to kuznetsov will be completed eventually, because i'm interested in seeing what modifications they make... poor old kuznetsov definitely needs some love and they NEED to keep the "aircraft cruiser" doctrine in mind instead of copying expensive NATO slop like the PLAN... aircraft carrying cruisers have soul. (i will NOT forgive what india did to the Baku 💢💢💢) maybe with what's happening in syria, the VMF will need to re-establish a naval force projector and push kuznetsov back into service? also yeah, the engine thing was definitely a hyperbole (even moreso, if we consider that the kuznetsov in game is flying soviet flags (therefore it hasn't been abused for 30 YEARS)). and the dock thing makes sense, they needed to work on big ships like Kirov-classes as well... maybe i went a bit *too much* like spookston with the "aguhrhhh russian military sucks!!!" type commentary - there are definitely a few mistakes ive made in the video that i might correct or address in an upcoming one 😭😭😭
Finally another person who is as sad as me with what happened to Baku. Didn't know the thing with the Pilot going too fast, so sorry for that, but still i wouldn't call it unskilled pilot, it's just mistakes can happen. For Kirow-class they use an other dock in Sewerodwinsk, you can have a look at Nachimow inside that dock if you go on the maps thing that comes with Bing ad not google. On both of these you can also see the empty dock in murmansk they used for Kusnezow, on Bing maps it's still being built, on google maps Kusnezow already left it. In 2022 you could actually see Kusnezow inside the dock. I think Kusnezow will get back in service, i mean they modernized it since 2018, so not getting it back in service would be like throwing a lot of money away. Sure the reports about that 1500 men of it's crew being used in Ukraine war are weird, and i actually don't have an answer why they exist, like why putting trained men into a war they are not trained for, and those 1500 are like nothing compared to the numbers they use in Ukraine. kusnezow crew is about 2000 men, so probably only the officers aren't included in those 1500. There are only 2 reasons why they would send soldiers that are trained for working on an aircraft carrying cruiser into war as normal infantry: They aren't needed anymore because: 1.the ship won't get back into service. As i said, wouldn't really make sense. 2.their position isn't neede anymore on the ship. With new weapon systems and new propulsion that kinda sounds realistic, but not 1500 men, those 1500 mena are also the guys n the flight deck, radar operators, people cooking for the crew.... Conclusion: the reports doesn't make sense. That can mean 3 things 1. russians are doing very weird things that aren't logical. Can happen, but people in the military normally don't do such shit. 2. OSINT is telling us shit. possible, they i don't even know how they want to confirm that those sailors are participating in ukraine war. Also they are not really neutral, so maybe some NATO missinformation. I mean who confirms all the things they claim? Noone, would be too much work. 3. Russians faked the use of those soldiers to trick us for whatever reason. I don't know any reason for doing that, but maybe they thought it'll be helpful. I still hope Russia will built new Aircraft carrying cruiser like Project 23000 would be nice, although it's still not known if it will be built, same as Project 23560. i mean at one point they have to replace Kusnezow, it would be cool if she stays as museum like Smeltyi and Michail Kutusow did, I hopr they do this with Kirow too, i mean if Kirow get's scrapped there are only two Project 1144 cruiser left. And nice that you want to correct your mistakes, there's too many people out there who can't see the mistakes you did, so good one on that. I mean everyone makes mistakes, so don't feel bad about it.
Liaoning does have an entirely different native propulsion system. Not only is it very visually different, even down to the exhaust funnel, but the Liaoning also has a high top speed, being about 10% faster than the Kuznetsof.
0:41 I don’t believe you at all. 0:45 OMG FUMO!!! I TOTALLY BELIEVE YOU NOW!!! 🥰🥰🥰😍😍😍🥵🥵🥵 Quick note: 0:57 that’s not the Kuznetsov that’s a volcanic island (I forgor which 1 tho) but being realistic when has Warthunder and Gaijin ever cared about historical accuracy? Make that ship a black beacon!
@@Merluso415 (utilicé el Google Translate, lo siento si el español es incorrecto) los motores del Kuznetsov queman el combustible de menor calidad posible (fueloil “Mazut”), por lo que hay impurezas extremas como un contenido de azufre muy alto… además, los motores están en pésimas condiciones debido a 30 años de abandono y mal funcionamiento 😭
@@quirble it does smoke alot but im pretty sure that is just photoshop of something else burning I think an oil rig? or something pasted over the Mediterranean sea
@@saladsandwwich1309 oh god probably, i think the mythos of the "smoky kuznetsov" has kind of just become its whole legacy though so its fun to meme about that
It doesn’t need to be historically accurate It must be accurate to the specifications If you want to be historically accurate, Match the kill to death ratio
@@goldgamercommenting2990 historically accurate k/d ratios?? >the virgin f-15 with over 150 USAF losses due to various accidents, shootdowns, etc >the chad su-33 with no losses of any kind to enemy fighting at all, only its unskilled pilots obviously the reason for this is because the kuznetsov hasn’t been around since 2017. so to be historically accurate, players who have the su-33 are stuck repairing the kuznetsov until the match ends
@@Russão000 holy shit i forgor about the controversy with the Su-33 not having the theoretical R-27EA. who wants to leak classified Vympel documents for me so i can make a video about it 👁
@@quirble I wouldn't call a wire break a reason to call the pilot unskilled, and at least in the 1990s the Su-33 pilots probably were among the best fighter pilots of russia if not the world. (one Su-33 managed to outmaneuver 2 israeli fighters) and even later they are still very good imo, it requires a lot more skill to be a navy pilot. I think one Mig-29K crashed back then when they attacked syrian terrorists too and i don't know the reason for it, but calling Su-33 pilots unskilled is like calling the F-22 the worst fighter ever made.(I wouldn't say it's the best, but still) Also i think it should have R-27EM, since it's the main missile it uses irl, and it's basically just a little upgrad to R-27ER.
"Dead on arrival"! "unwieldy boat with subpar missiles"! "most people recognise its not going to be particularly good"!
What's your favorite Su-33 insult that also applies to you? i relate hard with "It serves no purpose in the tech tree"
i watch you sleep
"Just because it can do the cobra maneuver doesn't make it useful."
@ me in a nutshell 😭😭
The Su-33 didn't have SPO-15. DCS made it up. The first proper RWR the Su-33 had was the Pastel which it has ingame...
Oh god you're right 😭i just found a few images and it's just an area with a few warning lights and some switches and stuff... i guess its time for a redux video where it's just me correcting all the inaccuracies
All flankers have a datalink, not just the Su33, but for obvious reasons, its not implemented in game.
need you to be a Evil Spookston equivalent that makes "Why the 2S38 is perfect and you should get one!" videos
YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND
i just finally finished the RDF/LT parody hopefully it works lol ua-cam.com/video/-InokuABjUQ/v-deo.html
This background music is hurting my soul
The Kuznetsov didn't fly the Soviet flag when the Su-33 was in service but it did for a short period of time after being commissioned
So I showed this to a friend:
*"Bruh. . . Stealth 💯"*
🤣
The piano in the background is perfect
The crazy thing about Kuznetsov is that it's probably the worst ship in it's class. Ukraine sold Varyag to China in the 2000s and it's had a pretty incident-free career, and China completed their own called Shandong which has also been doing alright. Also weird to think that the USSR was only a few years away from having a proper nuclear catapult carrier with Ulyanovsk. Alas just another thing lost in the collapse.
@@jameshodgson3656 aaaghhhhh dont remind me about ulyanovsk 😭😭😭😭😭 sobbing rn thinking of what could have been,,,
if it was historically accurate kuznetsov wouldnt be active
>loading up the su-33 to play an air RB match
>"[Operation] Sinai, 202X"
>not this fucking map again
>the kuznetsov is 6000 miles away from the rest of the battle
>can't take off because the deck is blocked with equipment
>everyone in chat is screaming about fox 3s and rafales
>23 minutes into the 25 minute long match, the PD-50 dry dock falls directly onto my plane
>"Your aircraft is critically damaged. Repair is not available."
>somehow still get more points on the team than the guy who spaceclimbed and did nothing
It is under repair
realistic su-33 would fall off the deck of the kuznetsov during taxi
1. leave me my soviet flag on Kusnezow. It looks much better than russian navy flag!!!!
2. the wire won't break always at a certain speed, it broke after 1000s of landings, also this happend to US and GB carriers too.
3. It's not clear what's gonna happen with P-700, some claim it will get replaced with more place for aircraft, some say it stays on the carrier....
4. the smoke pictures are fake. If engines fail, that won't be a problem for the planes. Also we don't know what modifications they did on the engines in the last years, so maybe that problem got fixed (only new turbines/completely new propulsion (maybe even nuclear reactor like on ice breakers/Kirow))
5. the dock got replaced by putting two smaller ones together.
6. with Liaoning you loose the P-700, Kinschal's, Kortik, AK-630 and RBUs, just to get 3 chinese CIWS and a total of 54 SAM. Also i'm not sure if chinese propulsion is really better than the ukrainian one that was in Kusnezow until 2018, sine Warjaggot sold WITH propulsion, although both Ukraine and China said it was without.
I understand that this is a parody but those are in my opinion some real mistakes by you/you exaggerated too much.
i think with the 82 Red incident, most of the reports say the arrestor cable failed because "the plane was coming in at too great of a speed" - here's a video of it ua-cam.com/video/IrioQwb7YtE/v-deo.html (and of course it's happened with the US carriers as well, as well as just... in general?? thinking back to the time when the US Navy tested out their F-35 submarine project in the south china sea 😳)
i'm hoping the refit to kuznetsov will be completed eventually, because i'm interested in seeing what modifications they make... poor old kuznetsov definitely needs some love and they NEED to keep the "aircraft cruiser" doctrine in mind instead of copying expensive NATO slop like the PLAN... aircraft carrying cruisers have soul. (i will NOT forgive what india did to the Baku 💢💢💢) maybe with what's happening in syria, the VMF will need to re-establish a naval force projector and push kuznetsov back into service?
also yeah, the engine thing was definitely a hyperbole (even moreso, if we consider that the kuznetsov in game is flying soviet flags (therefore it hasn't been abused for 30 YEARS)). and the dock thing makes sense, they needed to work on big ships like Kirov-classes as well...
maybe i went a bit *too much* like spookston with the "aguhrhhh russian military sucks!!!" type commentary - there are definitely a few mistakes ive made in the video that i might correct or address in an upcoming one 😭😭😭
Finally another person who is as sad as me with what happened to Baku.
Didn't know the thing with the Pilot going too fast, so sorry for that, but still i wouldn't call it unskilled pilot, it's just mistakes can happen.
For Kirow-class they use an other dock in Sewerodwinsk, you can have a look at Nachimow inside that dock if you go on the maps thing that comes with Bing ad not google.
On both of these you can also see the empty dock in murmansk they used for Kusnezow, on Bing maps it's still being built, on google maps Kusnezow already left it. In 2022 you could actually see Kusnezow inside the dock.
I think Kusnezow will get back in service, i mean they modernized it since 2018, so not getting it back in service would be like throwing a lot of money away.
Sure the reports about that 1500 men of it's crew being used in Ukraine war are weird, and i actually don't have an answer why they exist, like why putting trained men into a war they are not trained for, and those 1500 are like nothing compared to the numbers they use in Ukraine.
kusnezow crew is about 2000 men, so probably only the officers aren't included in those 1500.
There are only 2 reasons why they would send soldiers that are trained for working on an aircraft carrying cruiser into war as normal infantry: They aren't needed anymore because:
1.the ship won't get back into service. As i said, wouldn't really make sense.
2.their position isn't neede anymore on the ship. With new weapon systems and new propulsion that kinda sounds realistic, but not 1500 men, those 1500 mena are also the guys n the flight deck, radar operators, people cooking for the crew....
Conclusion: the reports doesn't make sense. That can mean 3 things
1. russians are doing very weird things that aren't logical. Can happen, but people in the military normally don't do such shit.
2. OSINT is telling us shit. possible, they i don't even know how they want to confirm that those sailors are participating in ukraine war. Also they are not really neutral, so maybe some NATO missinformation. I mean who confirms all the things they claim? Noone, would be too much work.
3. Russians faked the use of those soldiers to trick us for whatever reason. I don't know any reason for doing that, but maybe they thought it'll be helpful.
I still hope Russia will built new Aircraft carrying cruiser like Project 23000 would be nice, although it's still not known if it will be built, same as Project 23560.
i mean at one point they have to replace Kusnezow, it would be cool if she stays as museum like Smeltyi and Michail Kutusow did, I hopr they do this with Kirow too, i mean if Kirow get's scrapped there are only two Project 1144 cruiser left.
And nice that you want to correct your mistakes, there's too many people out there who can't see the mistakes you did, so good one on that. I mean everyone makes mistakes, so don't feel bad about it.
Liaoning does have an entirely different native propulsion system. Not only is it very visually different, even down to the exhaust funnel, but the Liaoning also has a high top speed, being about 10% faster than the Kuznetsof.
I dont know why they add it as a squadron vehicle, it should be premium
su 37 premium maybe?
0:44 fumo jumpscare
Ah yes I see thank you I will now reach enlightenment (cobra) (irl) (live)
Nice vid
1:18 haha i understand this and i don't like that I understand this
0:41 I don’t believe you at all.
0:45 OMG FUMO!!! I TOTALLY BELIEVE YOU NOW!!! 🥰🥰🥰😍😍😍🥵🥵🥵
Quick note: 0:57 that’s not the Kuznetsov that’s a volcanic island (I forgor which 1 tho) but being realistic when has Warthunder and Gaijin ever cared about historical accuracy? Make that ship a black beacon!
@@chrisbacon3071 you can trust cirno… you will trust cirno…
@@quirble I can trust cirno... I will trust cirno...
people cant understand jokes lul
0:57 ???????? , como sale tanto humo de un barco ?
@@Merluso415 (utilicé el Google Translate, lo siento si el español es incorrecto) los motores del Kuznetsov queman el combustible de menor calidad posible (fueloil “Mazut”), por lo que hay impurezas extremas como un contenido de azufre muy alto… además, los motores están en pésimas condiciones debido a 30 años de abandono y mal funcionamiento 😭
Porque el Kuznetsov es una “tecnología” soviética de mierda
@@quirble it does smoke alot but im pretty sure that is just photoshop of something else burning I think an oil rig? or something pasted over the Mediterranean sea
@@saladsandwwich1309 oh god probably, i think the mythos of the "smoky kuznetsov" has kind of just become its whole legacy though so its fun to meme about that
It doesn’t need to be historically accurate
It must be accurate to the specifications
If you want to be historically accurate, Match the kill to death ratio
@@goldgamercommenting2990 historically accurate k/d ratios??
>the virgin f-15 with over 150 USAF losses due to various accidents, shootdowns, etc
>the chad su-33 with no losses of any kind to enemy fighting at all, only its unskilled pilots
obviously the reason for this is because the kuznetsov hasn’t been around since 2017. so to be historically accurate, players who have the su-33 are stuck repairing the kuznetsov until the match ends
To be historically accurate this plane should have its Test armaments too, R-27AE broke the game
@@Russão000 holy shit i forgor about the controversy with the Su-33 not having the theoretical R-27EA. who wants to leak classified Vympel documents for me so i can make a video about it 👁
@@quirble I wouldn't call a wire break a reason to call the pilot unskilled, and at least in the 1990s the Su-33 pilots probably were among the best fighter pilots of russia if not the world. (one Su-33 managed to outmaneuver 2 israeli fighters) and even later they are still very good imo, it requires a lot more skill to be a navy pilot. I think one Mig-29K crashed back then when they attacked syrian terrorists too and i don't know the reason for it, but calling Su-33 pilots unskilled is like calling the F-22 the worst fighter ever made.(I wouldn't say it's the best, but still)
Also i think it should have R-27EM, since it's the main missile it uses irl, and it's basically just a little upgrad to R-27ER.
@@quirbleHistorically accurate Su33; never sees combat and can't be taken into a match.
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