20 PROFESSIONAL DISC GOLF FOOT FAULTS🚩 Which of these would you call out? Which would you let slide?
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2022
- Compilation of some of the top touring disc golf pros potentially committing foot faults. Which ones would you call out??? Which would you let slide??? Lets hear it!
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I'm not calling it unless it makes your shot easier. Toeing your disc debatably makes it a harder shot, with slick footing and/or feeling the disc under-foot as you throw. That shot around the bush that was thrown from several feet away? I'm calling that.
This
All of these faults made their shot easier, because they paid no attention to where they were placing their foot.
@@jjames75 this is the correct answer. people who foot fault have one less thing to think about when making a shot compared to those that dont
Yeah that's the only one I might call. And even that's iffy. I'm not calling anything unless I think there's intent.
every time I rewind and watch Conrad tuck and roll again, I laugh even harder
You didn't include the worst one I've ever seen, when Nikko called Rick for stepping no closer than 2 feet to his lie.
That one is always so painful to watch for me. Nikko acts like a complete tool, but he's 100% right. Ricky was so far back from his lie, and it definitely gave him a better angle for the shot, pretty obviously foot fault
Was looking for this. Nikko just couldn’t let that go though cause nobody else said anything and he was dumbfounded cause Ricky was definitely like 2 feet behind lmfao
@@patrickstark4310 he could and should have called courtesy on his cardmates for not seeing it, he probably chose not to for fear of getting called for time on putts lol
This is the one I was waiting for. Seems some players have a serious issue and are lucky the rules aren't called all the time.
If your teepad is based off a small line in a sidewalk, I’m not going to ever call somebody on a foot fault unless they’re truly beyond it. If their plant foot initially comes down at the line and as you rotate, it spins over, I won’t call that.
Worst one to me was the one at 2:18 since she consciously improved her angle by faulting resulting in a significant advantage.
How did she fault?
Looks like she's at least 2 feet or more behind her lie when she throws the disc. You're only allowed 30cm (11.8 inches). I forget if the rules were even stricter when that clip was recorded too. The PDGA updated some of it's lie rules around 2022 if I remember correctly. @@FRETLESSDOG1
Some of Ricky s are confusing. The cracks don't all line up with the tee pad markers. Some he's over the line but still in front of the markers.
The Log that ricky was on broke. That’s pretty unlucky. No way to hold that
That Is one I would let slide, If you are not allowed to move the debris for a better foot stance, then you would have to be pretty shitty to call that when the debris breaks under you after you have released the disc.
@@Kolossikal If the debris is not attached, you can move it. That was a pretty big log, though.
Love Ricky but you guys should watch 2021 goat hill round 3… It was incredible how many foot faults I saw
Was that the one that Philo called out like 3 of them and was just shaking his head?
@@GoWithTh3Flow he was on commentary and pointed multiple out, it was gnarly
I just watched the whole round and didn't see Rick commit a single foot fault, nor did Philo mention one. Am I stoned?
@@hoodglasses8237 first 3 holes on the B9 he steps on his mini on up shots, the front nine he has a couple totaling about 5-7. Phill calls out another player that round but he really calls him out on the tournament in this video
I was there for it in person and have played that course (horribly). The footing is awkward in a few places.
The burden of calling out foot faults shouldn't fall on the competitors themselves in the big tournaments. The DGPT should start having an official that follows each MPO and FPO card around who is in charge of calling any penalties. That would help legitimize the sport.
I have to disagree a little bit. It should still require at least one other player and an official call as well. Either two players, or a player and official. This gives some completely fine room for players to not second an official if they are being anal.
Funny thing is thats how newcomers ASSUME faults are handled. I remember when i found out the players are responsible i couldnt believe it.
Officials being in disc golf would only increase the amount of people that get hurt by inconsistent calls. These people are human and they will get calls wrong. Even with video evidence. Officials will decide who wins. It happens in every sport that has some type of ref. Any player that has any level of respect isn't calling a fault on someone that is fighting for the win. unless it's really obvious.
I call one foot fault in a tournament, which was clear and everybody else laughed it off. I did not call anymore even tough it was continuing problem. I think something needs to change
I'm very ok with foot faults that involve heel slipping and touching the disc or so for big shots, but putting faults you get one freebie with me unless it is aggregious
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This is the way
You're only giving free passes so I don't call yours on every hole. 😉
@@dustinkotzur2933 it's the only way I get distance
Not gonna lie I find myself feeling lucky a lot of the time on Par 4’s that I didn’t foot fault. Doing a full run up for a second shot from the fairway with a specific spot to plant your foot, unlike the tee pad, is actually kinda difficult. Especially when you turn your head to throw. Like I said for me a lot of the time it feels like luck that I managed to get my foot in the right spot.
There’s something to be said for working on your footwork and knowing exactly how to plant your feet
@@jacksonpalmer8955 couldn't agree more. A good way I heard it put was that it puts the players that are actually following the rules at something of a disadvantage, because they're thinking about multiple things at once
I'm the opposite. It's easy for me to plant legally in the fairway. On the tee I get anxiety about slipping off the front of the box or hitting the worn down spot that everyone steps on
@@spockhozzer7207 thank you for saying this. I have the exact same problem. I shortened my run up but I still get anxious on the tee pad. The rolled ankle, gnarly butt cheek welt, and plenty of close calls are always in the back of my mind when teeing off.
@@jacksonpalmer8955 not really becuase no one calls it anyway 😅
James' putt and the drive after it are both absolutely legal
Edit: I was referring to the first one, but both are legal
7:30 that one is real rich considering what he did to stokely
That upshot putt from behind the tree was pretty bad, definitely would call that one.
Great video once again!
Count me in the "who gives a crap" category on most of these. I would only care on putts in the circle and situations where the foot fault is obviously trying to gain an advantage (get further away from an obstacle).
The main issue with most of these is that a player gains an advantage by not bothering to worry where they plant their feet on their throws. Not an advantage by being 6 inches one direction or another.
@@Allurex 👏🙌
@@Allurex Exactly. A player who is concerned with faulting on an open field shot is at a distinct disadvantage vs. a player who assumes he won't get called and doesn't give a shit where he puts his foot.
If you’re thinking about where your foot is landing you should stick to ball golf.
@@tjmcgough5333 and if you aren't thinking about it and you foot fault, you should be called.
Those “tee pads” that are just a part of a walkway shouldn’t be allowed on tour. At least paint a line or something. It makes disc golf look like a joke when you can’t install an actual tee pad.
Or shitty astroturf pads for pro events
ironically those are probably some of the pro's preferred tees. brushed concrete is far safer to throw from than the shitty astroturf you see at a lot of courses
The rule has to exist but im glad to see in some of these clips the other pros letting stuff slide. It is a competition, but how much do you really gain by your toe touching a disc or sliding off the front of a tee? It's kinda just mutual respect to not call someone for a slip or being off by 3 inches. If they do it to avoid an obstacle that's different
4:58 James Conrad’s effort to avoid using him Hands to fall is just incredible. 👏
I’m ignoring Ricky’s putt and Conrad’s first put, as well as Jennifer and Paul’s lie misses (no clear advantage). I’m giving courtesy warnings to Ezra and Conrad’s second putt. Everything else gets called.
I died on E.O.'s 😂 Consistency is key. #isthatgood?
The PDGA needs to address the "lie/stance" situation. So many times in tournaments things go uncalled because the PDGA's guidelines are so vague.
Your lie rules is really not that vague
Wish someone would’ve called it on Climo, dude deserves it for that bs he pulled against Scott Stokely
Yes! I had forgotten about James Conrad tucking and rolling, taking it on the shoulder to try not foot faulting lmao
That was absolutely still a foot fault though
@David Y they gave him the benefit of the doubt and said he fell "sideways", but he definitely falls forward some. People only don't call it cause most people don't care about technicalities
I'm never calling Conrad out, that man is crazy. He may burn the course down with his rage.
Conrad didn't establish balance before touching in front of his lie
the disc was at rest in the chains before he lands, to me it was a legal put.
How was ezras a ff? He released before his foot touched down
Thought the same thing!
The rule is there has to be a supporting point behind the lie inside the "paper" the square behind the disc. Ezra's was a foot fault because he lifted his contact behind the lie (left foot) before he released his disc. I wouldn't have called it, cause if you slow it down almost all jump putts are foot faults.
This is a super common misconception that comes from not reading the rules thoroughly. It's about the foot that's creating a stance in his lie area, not about the foot stepping through and touching the ground. Sometimes (Paul Ulibarri we're looking at you) it's about the front foot, but almost always the stance violation (not "foot fault") is with the foot at the mini
@@kyleweir689 Semantics, by rule Erza's was still a stance violation, or "foot fault", by whatever name you call it. If you follow the black and white letter of the rule. However as I stated, still wouldn't have called him on it, as likely wouldn't have seen it in real time.
@@willjerden7024 wasn't responding to you, but it's bogus that you wouldn't call it because other violations are hard to call. This one wasn't hard, and it should have been called. It was blatant, doesn't take slow motion to see, and would have been very clear in real time. Competitors weren't watching, which they are by rule required to do, that's why it wasn't called.
I think the ones where the players stepped on the lie disc are okayish as if they would have put down the marker instead they would have been legal anyways. Of the tee drives some were okay as the end line was really badly marked and the benefit is really marginal.. I hate jump putts because it's almost impossible to tell without a slo-mo if it's legal or not. So I guess the ones where the player was off by a lot or Erics feeting were the ones that most clearly were footfaults. If the footfault rule was to be taken seriously there really should be a technical referee for every card and they would also handle the OB's and such.
Simon’s “fault” at 45 seconds was a legal throw, watch it at slow speed. He plants his toe on the turf and releases the disc before his foot slides forward off the pad.
yeah I even paused it and saw his foot is still the green.
I am certain your plant foot has to stay behind the line until the disc is fully out of your hand. So "technically" it was a foot fault. But one that does not ever need to be called. It gave him no advantage of any sort. I think pro's need to called out on more foot faults but some are just ridiculous to call.
His heel is pretty clearly off the pad and on the dirt, but okay.
at the exact point of release...possibly, camera angle is not great.
I think that if players are hoping disc golf to be considered a real sport some day they should stop using these sommarstuga rules. If you don’t appreciate your own sport, why should anyone else do that?
Shows you need officials cuz none of the players want to call anyone
3:28 didnt look like a foot fault... Yellow marker is still in front of his foot, it's not the line
MA1 and open player here...
No one is going to call the stepping on/pushing the disc. Especially since if they marked it at the front of the disc they would have 'gained' no more distance. Step in front? sure. Step ON the disc when it's used as the marker? No way.
I’ve had someone call me on that before…. During a fun casual match. I didn’t even flip my disc over on my lie. But ended up touching the disc….lol
@@creatorTWin What division are they? And why did you kick their dog before the round?
Most people mark the leading edge of the lie with the marker disc. So when he stepped on it, it is advancing his plant foot beyond the lie, which is a foot fault.
@@chriscarroll6447 probably open division player …. But man alive…. Bloody doubles round took 4 hours, I could have easily called him on a shot clock violation on every single drive and putt he took. A stealer of joy that one….
@@mbarrett99 Can't use the disc to mark the leading edge of the lie anymore. That's a different penalty before it's even thrown now. Stepping on a mini is one thing. Stepping on the disc as it landed no one really cares.
4:46 i’m confused about ezra’s footfault here? is the disc not out of his hand by the time his foot hits the ground?
nevermind, figured it out.
I’ve seen way to many foot faults to coins already on 2022 coverage.
And they call ricky out. The tee markers were in front of a line, was it the line or the yellow tee markers the line?
Can someone explain the falling putt rule? Thanks in advance!
I may be wrong but a player putting must not fall forward inside circle one and must establish balance before moving forward. It got harsher last season where they couldn’t even pick up their disc without putting their back leg down to show established balance.
@@patrickholstrom1299 thanks for trying to explain it, regardless of how correct you are. Totally new rule to me. Thank you, sincerely.
Ezra's was a step putt off the wrong foot? That one's pretty bad if he didn't have the angle to make the shot with his right foot at the disc.
Yeah those are the worst.
It's weird, but both feet were in air when he released the disc. Feel like that qualifies it for 'jump putt', which would be fine.
@@zanierrules Read the rules :)
Here: 802.07 Stance
@@Luddevige Got it, although it doesn't say it explicitly there, the rule for jump putt is: "Release your putter before your feet leave the ground" which he didn't do anyway
Dunno why I thought you could leap in the air and snipe it Lol
Maybe you should have a quick intro where you go over the rules. I'm seeing a lot of comments of people saying these aren't faults but clearly have never read the rules.
What is the rule for conrad tuck n roll? He didn’t touch the ground until the disc was in the basket, is that allowed
Nope, didnt have balance
@@tobiaslid8752did he advance past his lie before demonstrating balance?
@@tobiaslid8752 You clearly can't read the rules correctly.
@@OkejDator the rule says the following:
After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance BEHIND the marker disc before advancing toward the target. A player who fails to do so has committed a stance violation and receives one penalty throw.
so this is an obvious footfault
@@tobiaslid8752 Hard to tell with the camera angle, but I'm pretty sure he fell behind the marker. As long as he got back up and demonstrated balance control before advancing to the target, he was fine.
How was the Ezra straddle putt a foot fault? Genuinely curious.
He step putts with the foot that is the point of contact behind his disc.
The James Conrad one is not a foot fault. Gotta remember that the hand needs to be CLOSER TO the basket than your lie, and that when it's too close to call, the benefit of the doubt goes to the player.
I was gonna look for clarification on that one because for Conrad’s low stance his hand he brought it in close to him body before touching ground for a brief second. If he leaned forward and used him hand as an anchor I can see a fault but he basically punched the ground and pulled back immediately
It was his right foot that was the problem. He moves it back off his mini right before he throws. It made it a lot easier to make that putt.
”You need to demonstrate balance behind the lie”, that is not what Conrad demonstrated there.
@@Crunchyr1ce but that is not the rule... so? :)
the rule says "the player must demonstrate full control of balance behind the marker disc before advancing toward the target"
key part beeing "before advancing toward the target", so as far as the rules goes you can putt and then fall backwards doing a somersault before you stand up, demonstrate full control of balance and then advance
James only commited a stance violation if the hand that touched the ground was in front of the mini
@@Crunchyr1ce that quote is referring to establishing balance before getting closer to the basket than your lie. That's what we are arguing, whether or not he got closer to the basket than his lie.
You can fall backwards or sideways all you want, as long as you don't go closer to the basket than your lie.
Do one on Ganon .. personally timed some 50 secound + putts during LVC
Yes. I was losing my mind watching him putt.
Who's Ganon?
one point of contact is required upon release. if a bit of your heal is on the tee pad on release then no foot fault.
stepping on your disc as long as you have a single point of contact inside your lie, no fault.
outside of 10m you do not need to maintain balance, no fault.
I'm back here because of Nikko in the latest GK Pro Skins match.
I was under the impression that as long as you have one point of contact on the tee pad when the disc is released, you are ok... Doesnt matter if a foot is off the front. As long as one foot is on the box still. Am I wrong?
Your lead foot has to be in the box. If it slips off the front, it's a fault.
yep
step putt foot faults are my pet peeves. No excuse for them.
Really not a fan of tee pads not marked well. I feel bad for Ricky on those. They could have at least done a chalk line or highlighted the crack that was the front edge.
I feel like the foot fault idea along with the rule, should be changed. I’m not sure how to resolve it but for the player to try to imagine where they need to step, considering the area is the size of a sheet of paper as a legal foot plant on a full run up, for a second shot, is kinda silly.
I really think the rule needs to be adjusted to where it must meet a foot fault, and also an agreement that it improved the ability to make the shot.
If someone is 2 feet off on a wide open fairway, who cares?
If someone is 2 feet off to the left and throwing around a bush? Foot fault.
I would never call out James even if he punched a baby, the man is a madman and a crazed player, no way I'm approaching him.
He's way too unhinged at times...
I've seen him punch a baby, more than once, and I just say nice shot man
@@Unknown-rb3ip it is stuff like this. ua-cam.com/video/n5ThAvszSOs/v-deo.html The man just needs to learn to control himself. ;-0
if it is an advantage I will call but 2cm of the tee or something doesn´t make any difference so I would let it slide
The ones where they barley step on disc don't bother me too much.
But the fact they are paying less attention to their footing means they can focus more on the throw. Part of the difficulty of executing a shot is the footing. If they nudge it as their foot turns after they release its one thing, but if they step on the disc they have missed their foot placement.
@@derrickdigiulio4027 still depends if they flipped the disc, instead of placing a mini, or didn’t move the disc at all, you can step up to the front edge of where the disc landed so if they didn’t flip it’s not a foot fault. Why it’s always a good idea to place a mini or flip the disc
@@derrickdigiulio4027 literally who cares
@@michaelhigbee4151 so you're telling me I should be able to stand on my disc as I putt if I don't mark it? I don't think that would fly.
@@nathanrobbins2440 it's a competitive advantage that is super easy to enforce. So why do we not enforce it?
6:44 Did not know this used to be the fifth hole, rather than the seventeenth
Pretty sure it was tournament hole 17 for that tournament as well. It's course hole 5 I think and Central Coast had a bad habit of using course hole numbers during tournament coverage.
I wont call most because most dont even matter. Falling off the tee is not even a big issue, should be more worried someone doesnt break their ankle. As far as falling forward I dont understand why that matters as long as the disc is already released. barely touching your disc shouldnt even be an issue.
The one of James Conrad is not a foot fault. 1:48. If you make a line parallel to the basket from the disc to the left, I’d say he put his hand behind the line. It was very close to being one but I think he’s well behind it.
I think it was his right foot that slipped back so not a falling putt.
Id probably never call a foot fault.
Need some kinda rule change maybe, instead of enjoying playing the game, you have to stare at a players feet that's throwing 500ft cause they were an inch too far.. Maybe the size of 2 pieces of paper!!!!!!??????
Completely agree. Another reason to make the lie bigger is that we would probably see better shots when you don't have to worry as much where you plant
Paige Pierce does a super clear one here: ua-cam.com/video/_QcZl8zlh7g/v-deo.html
If the foot gets planted inside but because of the rotation falls over is that really a foot fault?
I assume you are talking for like a throw versus a putt, if so no that isn’t a foot fault. Only have to maintain balance behind your mini inside the circle
I wonder when we'll see a rule change
It seems like intention should be the biggest factor. Was it incidental or an attempt to improve the lie or the line. The one Nikko called on GG was to me not intentional, but his call on Rick was. Sadly he's blamed for trying to get both of the calls right by rule. I think Rick is a great player, but he foot faults in every tournament. An official, not a player on the card, should be handling this.
Unless it's horrible I don't call it and I don't play tournaments but in league play if I think it looks a bit bad I'll mention about watching themselves so it isn't a foot fault.
I feel that if the tee is a mark lined on the sidewalk, then there should be some caution given as its not an actual tee box you can feel the elevation difference in.
I play recreationally and never call shit. Chances are one of or all of us are buzzed. It happens to us all. None of it is intentional.
*roughly 2/3s are ACTUALLY footfaults…*
Conrad’s putt, Ezra’s putt and many more were NOT afoot faults
Ezra lunged forward with the wrong foot in this case
@@SmallBoreOutlaw James first knee putt was legit and if ezra was putting out side 33f...edit ezras jumper was footfault
@@teraslaakso2144 when Ezra let go of the disc his only foot touching the ground was his right foot which was 2 feet off to the right of his lie, the correct way would of been if his left foot had to be touching because thats the one behind the lie and his right foot in the air
@@Reptarxkingg what about Dustins?
@@teraslaakso2144 the one at 6:35? If his mini is where his lie is then he is too far out from it with his left foot. I didn't make the video but I'm assuming that's the reason they put it in here
so do you not get a penalty stroke for a foot fault?
Two people on the card have to see it and call it.
@@waynebryant1857 it was called a couple times in this video and the person just re-threw, maybe it's a new thing with penalty?
@@MrKevlarkent Actually, it's because the rules used to say:
802.4 E. A player shall receive a warning for the first stance violation in the round. Subsequent stance violations in the same round shall incur a one-throw penalty. Stance violations may not be called or seconded by the thrower.
F. Any throw made from an illegal stance is disregarded. A re-throw must be taken from the original lie, prior to subsequent play by others in the group. (PDGA 2013 Rule Book)
This rule was changed in 2018, now the throw counts even if it was a stance violation, but you do get a penalty stroke right away. No more warnings.
802.04 C. A player who violates 802.04.B has committed a stance violation and receives one penalty throw. (PDGA 2018 Rule Book)
Some of the clips in this compilation are from before they changed that rule.
That Simon one, I wouldn't call. His foot clearly slipped off the tee pad as his shot was released
Woulda PGA golfer be given the same benefit if he slipped his putter by accident on a steep green? The answer is no, he’s stroked no questions asked or seconds. We need to adopt their rule format.
@@droan999 who cares
@@droan999 im talking about tee shots, which you can accidentally hit your ball off taking oractice strokes in ball golf without a penalty
@@MattGames890 Regardless. It wasn't a foot fault. He was only making contact with the teepad until the disc was released.
@@droan999 nah being more laid back makes disc golf better than ball golf
1st foot fault should be a warning and redo. anything after that should be a penalty. I just think a couple inches most of the time is a dumb reason to stroke someone. Also if you use your disc as a marker and step on it is it really a foot fault because if you set your mini down you would be behind it if you know what im saying.
I don’t think Conrad’s is a foot fault if he stayed behind his mini; if you fall backwards or to the side I think it’s okay
the rule says you must demonstrate balance, i wonder how falling counts as demonstrating balance :D
@@saemj YOU ARE WRONG. Please read the rules. 806.01: "After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance behind the marker disc before advancing toward the target. A player who fails to do so has committed a stance violation and receives one penalty throw." Notice that balance must be shown before advancing past your lie but you can fall over, get up, demonstrate balance and then advance.
@@OkejDator nice caps lock, that must mean you are right, wow i did not see it that way.
"After having released a putt, the player must demonstrate full control of balance" Does that sound like falling over to you? It's not "after you released, fell over, got back up, got to get a beer, drank it, had a good night sleep and then came back the next morning".
@@saemj Please read the rules.
@@OkejDator first you yell at me, now you repeat yourself, are you drunk?
Would have definitely called foot fault but n the girl who did turnover shot. She got an advantage being told far behind her marker. That’s the biggest reason I would call foot fault. Because you give yourself a better angle
@1:49 not a fault. Conrad's hand remains behind line of disc.
Let's see, in basketball, football tennis, baseball, soccer pretty much any sport that has defining lines if you cross those lines you suffer a penalty..
Why people in disc golf have this mentality of " oh it's no big deal " doesn't make sense to me.
Sports are sports, they have clearly defined lines, rules and fouls that are all applied.
If a football doesn't cross the plane of the end zone is it a touchdown?
If a 3-pointer in basketball is made with a foot on the line is it a three-pointer?
Then a foot fault is a foot fault and a penalty should be called.
That one from James Conrad isn’t a foot fault.
There are so many people in here that learned the rules from their buddy who learned them from their buddy that learned them from their buddy that has never read them. Stance violation rules are very, very simple and very, very plainly written.
Read the rules folks. It only takes like 10 minutes.
I wouldn’t like calling any of these really but Ricky legit foot faulted on every single hole of that tournament lol
The Conrad tuck and roll was the worst. clearly inside the circle
But it matters whether or not he was behind or in front of the lie. The camera angle doesn't really show it, but I have a hard time believing he fell behind his lie.
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4:40 isn’t a foot fault, but great vid man. Ricky was having some major issues that one round lol.
That's exactly what I was thinking 😅
came looking for this comment, thats just a c2 step putt
Yes it is, his foot that was behind his lie comes off the ground before he releases the disc
@@josephneal8073 i see it now, he should have had his right foot on the lie to step putt like that
Ricky the foot fault king
How is Ezra’s a foot fault or almost one? Is it cause he kicks his disc? I didn’t even think he did but that’s the only thing I can think of
He picks up the foot that is his supporting point behind the disc...
I think disc golf has an integrity problem. Players need to step up and call foot-faults on themselves when they obviously know they have done one. Just because you didn't call it on one of the other players in the group doesn't mean you should not call it on yourself. I am also amazed at how the announcers, who are usually players themselves miss it so often. If it really doesn't give you an advantage to step on a disc, stand to far from the disc, release from in front of the tee line, etc., then get rid of the rules, otherwise follow them all.
You're not allowed to call yourself on a foot fault.
@@Gumbo_Time incorrect, you can call yourself on a foot fault. You’re right about prior rules, but that was when a re throw for the first violation was involved.
I would like it if the commentators would notice these more. Majority of these foot faults, especially some of the super obvious ones, the commentators said nothing about.
Id only call an agregious foot fault
I'm glad most of these weren't called. An inch or too back or ahead of the spot isn't giving any sort of advantage. Same thing with falling during a putt. What's important is that it gets called when it's done intentionally or in a way that helps the player (like shooting back of a lie behind a tree or intentionally jump putting)
Allowing a player to foot fault gives them an advantage. It doesn't matter if the it's intentional, obstructed or wide open. The issue isn't the extra inch or two they gain from their plant foot but the fact that they aren't paying attention to their foot placement. It's a lot harder to throw a long, accurate up shot when you're also making sure you don't fault. Allowing players to fault means you're allowing them to throw less difficult shots than the player who is making sure they don't fault.
4:50 Ezra is textbook foot fault
And at 5:20 balance isn’t demonstrated after the release of the putt; although the location of his falling shoulder ends up being planted behind plane of the shot…balance after the shot isn’t demonstrated. so, it’s another textbook foot fault.
2.15 and 6.32 were the worst, Those were actually cheaters. The others were just mistakes.
Could have added basically any jump putt by Paige Pierce. She is flying high when disc leaves her hand.
Not one clip of foot fault king Nikko Locastro
He has his own compilation.
Just watch one round of WPO and you’ll see about 20 foot faults in one round of coverage.
Conrad: stroke!
Meh. Sure most of these are technically illegal, but I wouldn't call them unless it was intentional, egregious, and gained an obvious advantage.
Foot faults are ridiculous if you're one inch on your disc. Like... Really...?? What difference does it make? Idk. I am indifferent on some of these calls or calls in general. If you're a few feet behind your lie for better angle. Yes for faults all day. If your foot slips off the tee pad? Like who really gives a shit? People who are desperate to win. All I say is play with honor and integrity.
Ezra's at worlds was not a falling out or foot fault
Uhhhh. How do you come to this conclusion? He picks up his left foot (at the disc, creating his stance) well before the putter comes out of his hand.
A couple in there were definitely not ff, and the rest were innocent ff, however Dustin Keegan was blocked off from the other players view so he took an extra mile to give more open area to swing his arm. That’s a DQ in my book
While I'm not bothered by most of these, the rule exists for a reason. Continuing to literally push the line and the card allowing it *at the pro level* is where I have a problem. There were 2 I wouldn't want called, Ricky's log break fall and Conrad's epic effort to fall sideways and not use his hands. Everything else? The rule is there for a reason. I love the casual nature of the sport, but professionals need to be held to the highest standards.
You know...with all his over-the-top emotional outbursts and blatant disregard for the rules of Disc Golf, I'm surprised James Conrad is not the most maligned character on tour.
Was Ricky's at the beginning a foot fault? Looks like the putt was in before he touched the ground anyways
You can not fall forward inside the circle
The wording is "show balance". He never showed balance.
Why are you commenting if you don't even know the rules
Call. Every. One. These people are paid to play the game. They can man up and follow the rules, or man up and take the fault call. Their choice.
Bad call on Simon for sure.
I would never call any because I only play casually. If I was in a tournament I'm not sure I would either. I think you should have a foot of leeway on the tees because not all teepads are the same mainly. Falling putts within the circle are probably the worst, but I wouldn't call unless it seems the person wouldn't have made it without the fault or they are a known cheater type.
Why was this recommended to me
It's a frigging rule which is hardly ever called. They need to get 18 volunteer (or paid) refs on each hold to call them.
Are you going to pay them?
I am skeptical that 18 refs would be enough or that they would be any better. I think that you would need at least 3 per hole which is pretty much the card. Taking out the personal stake in making a call would have some benefit, but at this point, I think the pros know the rules better than paid or volunteer staff would. Who knows top three cards of a major with refs following... It could happen. Replays? Are we baseball? Personally I would rather see great shots than small rules violations called. With that said major rules violations are hard to watch, which includes a card that doesn't call a major rules violation.