I like to interpret it as, the cold was so harsh that the water froze and he wasn't able to tamper it, thus his wife sacrificed herself to make the weapon. It's just my interpretation.
I just realized something. If you remember, Jon Snow had a lot of delusions of the grandeur of the Night's Watch. He grew up hearing tales of their greatness, and thought being one of their members was the greatest honors. The person who probably did the most to convince him of this was Ned. Since Ned knew Jon's Lineage, he knew that as a Targaryen with a strong claim on the throne he'd never be allowed to live under his real name. However, once becoming a Night's watch member you forfeit all claims. Which is why the only known targaryen in westeros was master Aemon and no one tried to assassinate him. Ned probably wanted Jon to lose his claims so that he could reveal his lineage, to wipe the dishonor of having a bastard child from his name.
If Jon is the child from the Tower of Joy in the books, he already has/had a brother named Aegon, there's a character in the books right now claiming to be that very Aegon. There were three heads to the dragon in Westeros, Aegon, Rhaenys and Visenya. If you look at Rhaegar's children he had Rhaenys and Aegon already.
Yes, Jon being called Aegon in the show is really dumb. What parent gives 2 out of his 3 children the same name? If Jon is the son of Rheagar, maybe Lyanna died before naming him so Ned himself named the child, so his real name might very well be Jon.
actually, Ned had a very different plan for Jon. Ned wanted Jon to build a castle in the New Gift and start a new cadet branch of House Stark. It's really easy to forget this, because it was only mentioned once in the entire series. Jon also calls this, Ned's Dream of Spring.
Breaks my heart that HBO scrapped the prequel series on the first long night. I’ll always wonder what the pilot episode was like for the remainder of my existence
@@Yehoshua66 thats the issue George has said several times before the cancellation that he is not involved with the show at all besides an advisory role which they're NOT required to listen. Also the story and characters were completely original and not based on anything George has wrote besides the premise itself, the first long night. The show was most likely garbage and i heard rumours that it was on the level of bad Disney Star Wars, The Rings of Power, Captain Marvel quality. We'll never know but the mystery will always keep people wondering. HBO likely saved everyone from a bad show but people will always assume the best from cancelled shows as if they've missed out. The dude literally commented "it's breaks my heart that it was scrapped" despite the fact that he doesn't know anything about the bloodmoon, narrative or characters, but apparently his heart is broken as if hes been robbed
In that darkness the whitewalkers came for the first time, they swept through cities and kingdoms, riding their dead horses, hunting with packs of pale spiders, big as hounds
Dragon steel is different to Valerian steel because at the time of the Long Night the Valerians didn't exist. They came on the scene a few thousand years later. Also, why couldn't Bran use his powers to find Lightbringer, or the horn of Jormund, or learnthe secrets of forging Valerian steel? Benioff and Weiss would probably say "Bran kinda forgot about his greensight ability"
This is just a nitpick, but the note that pops up at 1:16 that says "Many have come to be believe Dragonsteel was another term for Valyrian Steel" would more accurately be stated as "Many have come to be believe Valyrian is another term for what was once known simply as Dragonsteel", as the period when the term Dragonsteel was allegedly in use would have predated the Valyrians by thousands of years. I've always viewed Valyrian Steel as basically a "brand name" of Dragonsteel.
HBO considered doing a series on the Long Night but it was cancelled. There was also a leak that the Night's King would become the Night King. GRRM neither confirmed nor denied the leak.
The Hound is the prophesied Azor Ahai, the Last Hero, the three-headed dragon and here are the proofs: - likes chicken, chicken body resembles similar to dragon body, a link with the Targaryen - resurrected without any help but weak but medically attended by Ian McShane - regarding the title "A song of ice and fire", he has been in companion with Arya Stark (Ice) and the mountain burned his face back when he was a kid (Fire) - he actually saw Lightbringer in the past being wielded by Barric Danderion during trial by combat
Thomas Alvarez trust me dude, GRRM, DB Weiss, D Benioff, are always pulling unexpected things from the books and show, I can't imagine anyone more unexpecting than the Hound. I mean he did appear only once in one of the ten episodes in season 6, I guess there is something fishy going on.
Well for anyone interest. I actually did write a theory for why it is a possibility (that the Hound could end up clasping Lightbringer, and taking the Azor Ahai role) around 2 months ago when Episode 7 of Season 6 first aired. It got 200 upvotes on Reddit, but never really went that viral. www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/4ocopt/everything_cold_openings_for_cold_winds_a_new/
2424Lars If you had read what I wrote, I said I believe there's a 40% chance it would be him and I gave my reasoning for it. Also I say I do not believe there will be ONE hero, there will be many heroes. But that the Hound will "CLASP" light-bringer. There's only one sword that can really be Lightbringer at this point in the story if those prophecies are to be believed and it's Oathkeeper. Anyway read my whole post, because I make a few interesting points, not just the ONE about Azor Ahai & who will "clasp" light-bringer.
I love how sinister and scary the intro and background music is throught the video. It truly hits home how terrifying, dark and apocaliyptic the Long Night actually was to the entire planet.
From the way things are going it's highly probable that The Last Hero, Azor Ahai and The Prince That Was Promised are separate prophecies of different individuals and not just one with different interpretations, which was a popular belief until last season.Jon -Ptwp, Dany- Azor Ahai and Bran - The Last Hero.
Keep in mind that legends and prophecies aren't literal but metaphors that represent truth. I doubt the reality of a magical flaming sword because it would feel rather useless against a horde of dead. How is a measly sword suppose to stop the Others? Valyrian steel and Dragonglass already are effective against Others. Jon has even speculated if this Lightbringer is not a Valyrian sword, perhaps the first made. Sword is used to mean weapon many times, which can be anything. Also the legend says Lightbringer came to be when Azor impaled his sword through his beloved Nissa Nissa. And it was her fiery soul that gave birth to the Sword of Heroes. So it gets you thinking if Lightbringer is a metaphor for a fiery soul, a beloved woman. I've said before Jon is the Promised Prince, and Daenerys is Lightbringer/Azor Ahai. Or her and her Dragons. I fear she may die in the War for the Dawn, a sacrifice but not by someone killing her to make a fiery sword. It would make more sense to actually impale a Dragon to make a magical fire sword. As they are fire made flesh and powerful magical creatures. In short, I think things will play out differently than prophecies suggest. The reality will be, well realer. We already have several heroes who are likely to lead humanity in the War for the Dawn, not just one savior, such as Jon and Daenerys.
Jon will kill fcking mad quenn Deny ajd become a king Sansa and will rule the North and Bran will rebuild the wall Gendry will be new lord of Stormlands and marry Arya Sam will eat white walkers. Happy end
Hi! I love these videos! Thank you for putting so much time and effort into this series/playlist. I have a question - what is the link between Azor Ahai, Lightbringer, and Beric Dondarrion?
Lightbringer is the flaming sword of Azor Ahai. Beric Dondarrion is a man who died and was resurrected with fire magic and now lives as an undead being. He was revived by a Red Priest which is a religion that believes Azor Ahai will return to save the world. Here is a video about Azor Ahai if you're interested :) ua-cam.com/video/X6uyNxKGhHY/v-deo.html&ab_channel=CivilizationEx
The fact that the demons of the lion of night were probbably white walkers as well is just amazing and showing that the white walkers are biggest threat the world since the beggining
Man I love your videos, I think it's great what your doing!! Can we expect to see some videos about the dornish wars? Because I find them very confusing...
Or aegon VI (son of rhaegar), he was born on dragonstone (amidst salt and smoke), he's a targaryen (blood of the dragon) and it is said a red comet could be seen above kings landing when he was born.
what if the land of always winter is actually much, much larger? what if it stretches all the way across the northern tip of the world and meets the edge of Essos on the other side?
I remember being about thirteen years old and reading the name "Nefarian" and thinking wow that's the coolest name I've ever read. Little did I know, Nefarion awaited me
bran went north of the wall with a dog(summer), and hodor may have represented his horse he did ride on his back a lot, also the sword breaking in half may have been the reed brother dying (forgot his name). after all it was the reeds who protected him on his journey north.
How did the long night effect Essos if the Others could only come through Westeros and can't swim? Also, is 'The Last Hero' and 'Azor Ahai' two different versions of the same story or two actual completely different people?
You have much to learn young summer child, start watching some book theories. Begin with Alt shift x, then move on to Preston Jacobs and Lucifer means Lightbringer
@@SunDogGod comment was a year ago and I’ve got even more knowledgeable than I already was. It’s just my questions reveal uncertainty’s within the knowledge accessible to the reader
Essos was only affected by the Long Winter, the Others weren't in Essos. In Asshaii, there is mention of a hero wielding a red sword, fighting the darkness and leading virtuous people into battle to bring back the day. When that legend spread, different cultures took that legend and gives a different names to the hero. For the R'hllorist, they believes that the hero was a champion, Azor Ahai, sent by their god. Comparing the legend with Westeros we can see that the hero was in fact the Last Hero, wielding the dragonsteel blade, fighting the Others, leading the first men of the Night's Watch during the battle of the Dawn. So when people are referring to Azor Ahai and Lightbringer they are in fact talking about the Last Hero and his dragonsteel blade. (and Azor Ahai Reborn is about the Prince that was Promised).
Never caught this before, but which Lion (Lannister) do you think it would be in the current story? Jaime? Tyrion? Not Cersei, she will die from one of her brothers.
So we all know that Jon Snow is the Last Hero in Westeros, the dog and his companions is the dead give away. Daenerys is the Hero in the Essos namely Rhoyne. Signing a song etc. I believe that Gendry is Azor Ahai....he's a black smith, so he can make light bringer....
Im gonna admit I always thought that ol Jonny was azor and dany was Nyssa but now that you put it like that it makes sense. Only problem is... Who is gendry's Nyssa Nyssa
The tales of Essos are just another version of the original hero who ended the Long Night: the Last Hero. The Last Hero sought the help of the Children of the Forest but the true name of the Children are "those who sing the song of earth", the Singers and their magic can be referred as "song" therefore the hero who was looking for the many children of the Mother Rhoyne and their song is about the Last Hero looking for the Singers. Azor Ahai is also explicit, it's just the Last Hero who forged the dragonsteel blade with a blood sacrifice after his sword got destroyed against the OThers while he was looking for the Singers.
i'm starting to imagine the earth is the furthest from the sun during the long night, and westeros is the continent always hidden from the sun. Which means the diameter of the orbit of the earth in this story is pretty large (or myb almost slipped away from the orbit for a while). It takes one generation for the gravitational force of the sun to get the earth back to circulate it. Damn!
wow. watching all this, and learning about martins actual vision really devalues the tv series as they explain none of this, and obviously its so far from what George wants that its basically its own thing.
Not sure about including the ability for Others being able to summon giant ice spiders as true is correct, I mean have we seen a single mention of this power beyond Old Nan?
I wanna see a spinoff show which occurs 100 years after game of thrones. New lands have been discovered. A new king is chosen but is more of a julius ceaser figure and like alexander the great wants to invade the lands of sothoryos. The free cities of essos, dothraki , six kingdoms of westeros, north all are battling for more power in new lands. With mentions to far east essos mainly asshai. Imagine a story where the king wants to bring back north and invade west. Perhaps a dictator figure with houses trying to bring him down. I would like a scene where a pirate or traveller goes to west of westeros and finds a stranded ship with a skeleton missing an arm which clearly belongs to arya stark.
The Reverse Nissa Nissa folks aka jon snow is actually not azora ahai but danny is!! so that leaves jon snow as Nissa Nissa!! facts. nice vid Civ as usual
Everyone thinks it's gonna be Jon or Dany but in reality it's Aegon VI because he was born on dragonstone (amidst salt and smoke) a targaryen (blood of the dragon) and a red comet could be seen above kings landing when he was born. Thus, he is azor ahai.
Ruben Avalos How long do you think the knights watch existed before the wall do you think the timing is close enough for Brandon the builders son to be the 13th lord commander I think the 13th lord commander has to be a few decades maybe a century after the long night
***** First the Long Night happened. Then some years into it a hero who in Northern legend is remembered as the Last Hero united with the Children of the Forest to end it in the Battle for the Dawn. Soon after the Others/White Walkers were driven North to the Lands of Always Winter, Brandon the Builder, founder of House Stark, with the help of the Children of the Forest built the Wall. He also built Winterfell and the Oldtown Citadel allegedly. The men who aided the Last Hero formed and established the Night's Watch to protect the realm of men. Those unfortunate people who were beyond became the Free Folk/Wildlings. After 13 generations, the 13th Lord Commander declared himself the King of the Night's Watch and served the Others, taking one of them or a Wight as his Queen. He ruled with cruelty and obscenity, until the King Beyond the Wall elected by the Free Folk and the current King of Winter/King in the North, a Stark, united their forces and deposed of the Night's King freeing the Night's Watch from his leadership. It's speculated the Night's King was indeed a relative of King Stark at the time, a brother, cousin, or even bastard half-brother. He may have been a descendant of Brandon Stark, but not his immediate son as his time was at least 13 generations after.
Ruben Avalos thanks for the clarification I always get confused as to when the nights watch got started and I have heard people say so many different things about the 13th lord commander but now I know it's 13 generations so thank you for letting me know
Here lies the TRUE STORY why the Others/White Walkers brought the Long Night to Westeros while the known world also affected. The Night King and the rest of the White Walkers minds were enslaved by magic that the Children of the Forest cast on them as suitable weapons against the First Men during the war against them. After the war ended and the pact sealed between the Children and the First Men. The Others were put into a slumber in the Land of the Always Winter in frigid ice tombs until a time for them to be used again. But upon the coming Age of Heroes, the magic that enslaved the minds of the White Walkers and their king were weakened and soon broken. It was this forthcoming that the Night King finally regained his consciousness over a long a centuries being a puppet for the Children of the Forest. But his other kins have no conscience for they are long empty husk of their former self. They themselves can still follow the absolute order of their king. Only the Night King has intelligence that of a human but he can't never remember who he is from the time before he became what he is. Though he never forgets the ones that did this to him in the first place. The Long Night begins. Not a cataclysm that played as a cycle against the survival of the human race. But a ravenous revenge and vengeance that the Night King felt unto him towards the Children of the Forest. He only marched from the north of Westeros to the south as to find and massacred and bring extinction to his makers and puppeteers, the Children of the Forest. The First Men were only his way that resulted in collateral damage. Being short-sighted, the First Men mistook the White Walkers intention along the impending cold winter unleashed by them as something that would driven them to extinction. Soon it reached as a climax that the First Men noted this as the War of the Living and the Dead, the War of the Dawn. The Children of the Forest also put themselves as also siding with the First Men but entirely hiding all along it was their mistake of creating and unleashing something they thought they have it controlled. Like it happened in the tale, both the Night Watch and the Last Hero were able to push the Others and their horde of undead farther north. But in reality, the Night King had seen enough that his entourage towards the killing of the Children of the Forest given him an insight that no farther sooner the Children last surviving members won't last in the world. He made it look like the Last Hero and the Night Watch able to defeat him and his fellow kins. In truer perspective, he was just pulling back his forces in the Land of Always Winter and once again to slumber for centuries to come. The Wall was built and act as a deterrent against the Others if they intent to go south. It was at the time in the aftermath of the Long Night that the Children of the Forest spread the word that the White Walkers and the Night King are pure cold evil incarnate and a threat to the living. Going on and on that they have no conscience mind but just pure hate and cruelty to all living things, a monsters. They're painting them as something the world doesn't need. Worshipers of the Old Gods but liars in a sense. Just not knowing the facts that the real reason the Others killed all of them was an act of revenge bias the Night King intention. After 8,000 years, he's awoken once again but is completely unknown what his intention towards Westeros. As what the Starks used to say "Winter is Coming".
I have a lot to say for this. I believe (like Preston Jacobs) that there is no magic in A song of ice and fire universe. The long night was most probably a nuclear winter from the war of children and the first men who were most probably highly advanced . Prophecy isn't real, nobody's Azor Ahai. The others are mutations of humans(we know this because humans and others can breed). More of all of this is in Preston Jacobs' series "The minds of wolves and Robins"
Lt. Commander Olly Jackson a generation is usually when the children of the previous generation starts having kids, so nowadays it would be roughly 20-35 years. However got/asoiaf is based on medieval times so the people were married younger, longer, and had more children. Therefore a generation in asoiaf/got would roughly be anywhere from 14-27 years
How are they going to wrap this show up with only 6 episodes??? With all the character storylines they have to end and now the long night has come again. I don’t see it.
They tried which is probably why S7 ended up being a shitpile with teleporting characters and people acting out of character so they can hurry up and die or be put to where they need to be before the war starts. There's still a lot to deal with though. I wonder who runs the Riverlands now?
There is no Night King in the books, like there is in the show. There is another character called the Nights King, but he is a historical figure from the Night's Watch, not the leader of the White Walkers. In the books they don't have a single leader, at least as far as we know.
My theory I think bran went past to stop the children from the others.. For that he warg into a person... Turns out That's person is the one who the children tied up with the tree and changed in the NK... That's how bran got stuck up and he never comes back in his present from ... Then the final fight begin with jon riding reagal and the NK viserion... The dance of dragons begins... Finally jon noticed that the NK eyes looks like bran right now that he is not waking up... He realise and kill bran with pain in his heart.... The sorwd in the chest of bran burn red... Becoming the lightbringer... And with him all the WW die... Dany die giving birth to their daughter lyanna... And the show ends with jon holding lyanna in his lap in front his mother lyanna's statue. The end Now I'm gonna go home and cry. 😭😭😭
@@CivilizationEx what about with the 13th lord commander wifing a NW and taking control of the nights watch etc and the 3rd i meant was just present day the shit we see in the show.
We don't know for sure if the Night Kings wife was a white walker, but either way there was no long night when that happened as far as we know, no long winter and invasion of white Walkers. The new white walker invasion and winter might become a second long night but we don't know if it will for sure because in the books winter just started and we don't know how long it will last yet.
@@CivilizationEx right on, so the Night kings wife in the books was just an incident of an evil lord commander for the most part, rather than a full on "long night" just needed some clarification there, because i read the first 2 books YEARS ago long before there was ever a show. I think if winds of winter comes out sooner rather than later ill go ahead and just get caught up on the series, Appreciate the clarification buddy. Subbed.
I believe that Westeros and Essos are connected or at least in times of extreme cold you can cross the ice (like Russia and Alaska in the past) and the Others advanced in both directions at the same time
Very likely. Although it is a little bit forced that Jon or someone relevant comes in contact with him. I mean common he is one wolf in the middle of a horde of undead.
PixelSheep I'd say he dont need to do so. (having an army of everything that ever died is ... a neat advantage) The reasoning would be 4 fun ramsay style. But Ramsay style does not fit the night king, as far as I know, but I could be wrong.
Jerald Lerida the Others camefrom the North, nd perhaps are the same demons described as attacking the East if that legend is to be believed, which would mean the continents might be connected.
So basically with this world, 100 spinoff books and series could be made
GRRM didn't just make a world, he made a universe
Yep
And all of them will be finished before Winds of Winter comes out.
1.247 possible stories could be make out of ASoIaF⚔
@@Literarydilettante lmao
Azor Ahai sounds like a psychopath. "Can't temper the sword in water better kill my wife." - Azor Ahai
As the gods intended
I like to interpret it as, the cold was so harsh that the water froze and he wasn't able to tamper it, thus his wife sacrificed herself to make the weapon. It's just my interpretation.
Hey, he got the job done, and now there will be zero nagging :)
It would be very Martin-like for the hero to turn out to be the bad guy all along.
@@youdontknowme2913If he could generate heat to meot steel and make a sword, he for sure could melt ice to make water. Come on now
the geological scale of the long night makes me believe that the Land of Always Winter is attached to the lands passed Ashai.
Unless the Others have boats or something.
@fat cow He also likes to say his belly isn't connected to the ground and yet...
Yeah probably their map is not flat
I just realized something.
If you remember, Jon Snow had a lot of delusions of the grandeur of the Night's Watch. He grew up hearing tales of their greatness, and thought being one of their members was the greatest honors. The person who probably did the most to convince him of this was Ned. Since Ned knew Jon's Lineage, he knew that as a Targaryen with a strong claim on the throne he'd never be allowed to live under his real name. However, once becoming a Night's watch member you forfeit all claims. Which is why the only known targaryen in westeros was master Aemon and no one tried to assassinate him.
Ned probably wanted Jon to lose his claims so that he could reveal his lineage, to wipe the dishonor of having a bastard child from his name.
Eddie LM Jon is aegon targaryen
If Jon is the child from the Tower of Joy in the books, he already has/had a brother named Aegon, there's a character in the books right now claiming to be that very Aegon. There were three heads to the dragon in Westeros, Aegon, Rhaenys and Visenya. If you look at Rhaegar's children he had Rhaenys and Aegon already.
Yes, Jon being called Aegon in the show is really dumb. What parent gives 2 out of his 3 children the same name? If Jon is the son of Rheagar, maybe Lyanna died before naming him so Ned himself named the child, so his real name might very well be Jon.
His name should of been Jahaerys JesusNeolukeskywalker
actually, Ned had a very different plan for Jon. Ned wanted Jon to build a castle in the New Gift and start a new cadet branch of House Stark.
It's really easy to forget this, because it was only mentioned once in the entire series.
Jon also calls this, Ned's Dream of Spring.
Breaks my heart that HBO scrapped the prequel series on the first long night. I’ll always wonder what the pilot episode was like for the remainder of my existence
it must have been a terrible script let's be honest 🤣🤣🤣
Mystery is always superior to disappointment. Mystery can forever stimulate the mind.
@@Yehoshua66 thats the issue George has said several times before the cancellation that he is not involved with the show at all besides an advisory role which they're NOT required to listen. Also the story and characters were completely original and not based on anything George has wrote besides the premise itself, the first long night. The show was most likely garbage and i heard rumours that it was on the level of bad Disney Star Wars, The Rings of Power, Captain Marvel quality. We'll never know but the mystery will always keep people wondering. HBO likely saved everyone from a bad show but people will always assume the best from cancelled shows as if they've missed out.
The dude literally commented "it's breaks my heart that it was scrapped" despite the fact that he doesn't know anything about the bloodmoon, narrative or characters, but apparently his heart is broken as if hes been robbed
I don't trust HBO to make a ASOIAF series with so little source material. Some things are best left in obscure legend.
Dude saves humanity from undending terror and people cant even remember his real name
some think it wasnt a man at all, but the discovery of dragons which provided the weapon needed to fight back and win.
we need this adapted asap
Every jrpg every
Translation can be a bitch especially in dialects that are no longer used
Its been 8,000 years. The fact he's remembered at all is impressive.
Love how you took Ungoliant as an ice spider and just changed the colors to blue and white :D
Nice video dude, keep it up :)
Fight for Europe yo i noticed that too!!
Lightbringer = 1000 DEGREE KNIFE CHALLENGE GONE WRONG GONE SEXUAL IN THE HOOD
In that darkness the whitewalkers came for the first time, they swept through cities and kingdoms, riding their dead horses, hunting with packs of pale spiders, big as hounds
Dragon steel is different to Valerian steel because at the time of the Long Night the Valerians didn't exist. They came on the scene a few thousand years later. Also, why couldn't Bran use his powers to find Lightbringer, or the horn of Jormund, or learnthe secrets of forging Valerian steel? Benioff and Weiss would probably say "Bran kinda forgot about his greensight ability"
This is just a nitpick, but the note that pops up at 1:16 that says "Many have come to be believe Dragonsteel was another term for Valyrian Steel" would more accurately be stated as "Many have come to be believe Valyrian is another term for what was once known simply as Dragonsteel", as the period when the term Dragonsteel was allegedly in use would have predated the Valyrians by thousands of years. I've always viewed Valyrian Steel as basically a "brand name" of Dragonsteel.
“To be believed”
HBO considered doing a series on the Long Night but it was cancelled.
There was also a leak that the Night's King would become the Night King. GRRM neither confirmed nor denied the leak.
Listening to your voice is like pouring melted butter in my ears.
The Hound is the prophesied Azor Ahai, the Last Hero, the three-headed dragon and here are the proofs:
- likes chicken, chicken body resembles similar to dragon body, a link with the Targaryen
- resurrected without any help but weak but medically attended by Ian McShane
- regarding the title "A song of ice and fire", he has been in companion with Arya Stark (Ice) and the mountain burned his face back when he was a kid (Fire)
- he actually saw Lightbringer in the past being wielded by Barric Danderion during trial by combat
That would be cool, but we may have to go with obvious clues such as Dany and Jon. (Although the hound would be amazing as a world savior.)
Thomas Alvarez trust me dude, GRRM, DB Weiss, D Benioff, are always pulling unexpected things from the books and show, I can't imagine anyone more unexpecting than the Hound. I mean he did appear only once in one of the ten episodes in season 6, I guess there is something fishy going on.
Georgie Bolimz Defiantly something with Arya as stoneheart 2.0
Well for anyone interest. I actually did write a theory for why it is a possibility (that the Hound could end up clasping Lightbringer, and taking the Azor Ahai role) around 2 months ago when Episode 7 of Season 6 first aired. It got 200 upvotes on Reddit, but never really went that viral.
www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/4ocopt/everything_cold_openings_for_cold_winds_a_new/
2424Lars If you had read what I wrote, I said I believe there's a 40% chance it would be him and I gave my reasoning for it. Also I say I do not believe there will be ONE hero, there will be many heroes. But that the Hound will "CLASP" light-bringer. There's only one sword that can really be Lightbringer at this point in the story if those prophecies are to be believed and it's Oathkeeper. Anyway read my whole post, because I make a few interesting points, not just the ONE about Azor Ahai & who will "clasp" light-bringer.
Its friday, my summer job just ended and Civilization Ex uploads a GoT video. Today is a good day.
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How is life now my dude?
I really love your videos! They are so informative and very well done!! I just wish the speed of the narration was a little slower.
Azar Ahai drew forth his magic sword from his wife's chest and said By the Power of Domestic Violence! :)
You just killed me with that one!
MisterTutor2010 BY THE POWER OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WHICH WAS LEGAL BEFORE PHONES I SHALL KILL THE WHITE WALKERS AND DEFILE MY WIFES CORPSE
POWAH OF DA PATRIARCHY!
Good old days
Vaibhav Shah back in my day men committed the most domestic violence
Thank you for the new video ! Highlight of my day 🙌🏽
Ice Spiders would have been so awesome to see in the show. I can't believe that D&D somehow didn't include those
Great Vid, excellent content as per usual. Keep up the good work.
I love how sinister and scary the intro and background music is throught the video. It truly hits home how terrifying, dark and apocaliyptic the Long Night actually was to the entire planet.
theory: Westeros and essos are conected and when the wall was raised the army of the dead whent to essos.
Bo G a plausible theory and an interesting one at that too. I would like to see the planets entire landmass once the series is done
Plot twist, white walkers are just people from essos who go too far east and succumb to the cold
But if Azor Ahai labored for 100 Days and Nights does that mean that during the Long Night there is days.
+Coley Durham I was being sarcastic lol
+Coley Durham no lol
+Coley Durham *np
What's 24 x 100?
The Spriggan Use a calculator
From the way things are going it's highly probable that The Last Hero, Azor Ahai and The Prince That Was Promised are separate prophecies of different individuals and not just one with different interpretations, which was a popular belief until last season.Jon -Ptwp, Dany- Azor Ahai and Bran - The Last Hero.
Hell, for all we know the last hero may just be an ideal.
Will Jon and Danny fall in love, but to recreate lightbringer one of the two will have to kill the other out of love?
Keep in mind that legends and prophecies aren't literal but metaphors
that represent truth. I doubt the reality of a magical flaming sword
because it would feel rather useless against a horde of dead. How is a
measly sword suppose to stop the Others? Valyrian steel and Dragonglass already are effective against Others. Jon has even speculated if this
Lightbringer is not a Valyrian sword, perhaps the first made. Sword is
used to mean weapon many times, which can be anything.
Also the legend says Lightbringer came to be when Azor impaled his sword through his beloved Nissa Nissa. And it was her fiery soul that gave birth to
the Sword of Heroes.
So it gets you thinking if Lightbringer is a metaphor for a fiery soul, a beloved woman.
I've said before Jon is the Promised Prince, and Daenerys is
Lightbringer/Azor Ahai. Or her and her Dragons. I fear she may die in
the War for the Dawn, a sacrifice but not by someone killing her to make
a fiery sword. It would make more sense to actually impale a Dragon to
make a magical fire sword. As they are fire made flesh and powerful
magical creatures.
In short, I think things will play out differently than prophecies suggest. The reality will be, well realer. We already have several heroes who are likely to lead humanity in the War for the Dawn, not just one savior, such as Jon and Daenerys.
Jon will kill fcking mad quenn Deny ajd become a king
Sansa and will rule the North and Bran will rebuild the wall
Gendry will be new lord of Stormlands and marry Arya
Sam will eat white walkers.
Happy end
Gandalf čarobnjak sa Sjevera And everyone that died will be resurrected! And they'll find the fountain of youth and become immortal!
Ruben Avalos awesomeee :O
The Law Dany must die!!!
I think throne will be destroyed
I love how the flaming sword "light bringer" in the video is rainbow colored. 😂
I mean, that’s basically how the books describe it
Renly has a rainbow guard
Renly is azor ahai confirmed
Sweet! New music and some new illustrations
Hi! I love these videos! Thank you for putting so much time and effort into this series/playlist. I have a question - what is the link between Azor Ahai, Lightbringer, and Beric Dondarrion?
Lightbringer is the flaming sword of Azor Ahai. Beric Dondarrion is a man who died and was resurrected with fire magic and now lives as an undead being. He was revived by a Red Priest which is a religion that believes Azor Ahai will return to save the world.
Here is a video about Azor Ahai if you're interested :) ua-cam.com/video/X6uyNxKGhHY/v-deo.html&ab_channel=CivilizationEx
The fact that the demons of the lion of night were probbably white walkers as well is just amazing and showing that the white walkers are biggest threat the world since the beggining
Man I love your videos, I think it's great what your doing!! Can we expect to see some videos about the dornish wars? Because I find them very confusing...
Really love your videos
0:49 that's exactly the same spider drawing that you used for ungoliant
4:33 and there's a balrog in Essos
Old nan told that there is spiders size of a Dog in The crypts of winterfell. Maybe they will BE reborn once night king gets there
ıf you could do a story on the blood raven that would be awesome as well. He is a very mysterious character.
Already have! :) ua-cam.com/video/5XyxDKZJbI4/v-deo.html
So basically Jon is the last hero and everyone dies except him. Makes sense for a bitter sweet ending
3:17
Was that a dreadlord on the top right? O_o
Love your videos!!!
Jon Snow is most likely Azor Ahai. He is the prince that was promised as per the prophecy which applies to Jon on so many levels.
I hope he isnt
+Jorgi Zoran yeah, it's too cliche
At this point we kinda know he is, but he will likely did... Again
Or aegon VI (son of rhaegar), he was born on dragonstone (amidst salt and smoke), he's a targaryen (blood of the dragon) and it is said a red comet could be seen above kings landing when he was born.
SherBoCop what epic story doesn't have a cliche hero lol
Thank you so much lol I'm grateful for finding your channel #civilizationx
what if the land of always winter is actually much, much larger? what if it stretches all the way across the northern tip of the world and meets the edge of Essos on the other side?
I remember being about thirteen years old and reading the name "Nefarian" and thinking wow that's the coolest name I've ever read. Little did I know, Nefarion awaited me
Could you make video about Bloodstone Emperor
I think the one we are seeing on the show and reading in books is the third one that Planetos is experiencing.
brace yourselves for a shit ton of obvious theories by people who think they've discovered the steam engine...
Those ice spiders look a lot like the spiders you talk about in your Lotr videos. 😉
Let's see if you can find a re-skined balrog in the video. :)
3:27 Ash
bran went north of the wall with a dog(summer), and hodor may have represented his horse he did ride on his back a lot, also the sword breaking in half may have been the reed brother dying (forgot his name). after all it was the reeds who protected him on his journey north.
Jojen Reed hasn’t died in the books
How did the long night effect Essos if the Others could only come through Westeros and can't swim?
Also, is 'The Last Hero' and 'Azor Ahai' two different versions of the same story or two actual completely different people?
You have much to learn young summer child, start watching some book theories. Begin with Alt shift x, then move on to Preston Jacobs and Lucifer means Lightbringer
@@SunDogGod comment was a year ago and I’ve got even more knowledgeable than I already was. It’s just my questions reveal uncertainty’s within the knowledge accessible to the reader
The land of always winter connects to the east of essos from north of the wall. Its a massive continent like Antarctica
Essos was only affected by the Long Winter, the Others weren't in Essos.
In Asshaii, there is mention of a hero wielding a red sword, fighting the darkness and leading virtuous people into battle to bring back the day. When that legend spread, different cultures took that legend and gives a different names to the hero. For the R'hllorist, they believes that the hero was a champion, Azor Ahai, sent by their god.
Comparing the legend with Westeros we can see that the hero was in fact the Last Hero, wielding the dragonsteel blade, fighting the Others, leading the first men of the Night's Watch during the battle of the Dawn.
So when people are referring to Azor Ahai and Lightbringer they are in fact talking about the Last Hero and his dragonsteel blade. (and Azor Ahai Reborn is about the Prince that was Promised).
besides raiding and pillaging what did the iron born do in the long night ?
what they always do hide in there castles until everythings done then attack the victor then get crushed
Great video we all know who Azor Ahai is in the modern day he is Jon Snow The Only Hero of Westeros
Maybe it's Jaime as he'll probably kill Cercei by putting his sword through her heart.
Interesting, makes me think it's even more likely it's Jon then (with Daenerys)...
After someone strangles her
is coldhands the last heroe? perhaps he is not azhor ahai but the person who contacted the children seeking their aid to stop the others
I have a feeling that the new game of thrones game will be about the last hero where you play as him
Never caught this before, but which Lion (Lannister) do you think it would be in the current story? Jaime? Tyrion? Not Cersei, she will die from one of her brothers.
They gotta do a long night series, that and age of hero’s
So we all know that Jon Snow is the Last Hero in Westeros, the dog and his companions is the dead give away. Daenerys is the Hero in the Essos namely Rhoyne. Signing a song etc. I believe that Gendry is Azor Ahai....he's a black smith, so he can make light bringer....
Philip Dillard well damn
Im gonna admit I always thought that ol Jonny was azor and dany was Nyssa but now that you put it like that it makes sense.
Only problem is... Who is gendry's Nyssa Nyssa
The tales of Essos are just another version of the original hero who ended the Long Night: the Last Hero.
The Last Hero sought the help of the Children of the Forest but the true name of the Children are "those who sing the song of earth", the Singers and their magic can be referred as "song" therefore the hero who was looking for the many children of the Mother Rhoyne and their song is about the Last Hero looking for the Singers.
Azor Ahai is also explicit, it's just the Last Hero who forged the dragonsteel blade with a blood sacrifice after his sword got destroyed against the OThers while he was looking for the Singers.
I think I saw a balrog at 3:20
i'm starting to imagine the earth is the furthest from the sun during the long night, and westeros is the continent always hidden from the sun. Which means the diameter of the orbit of the earth in this story is pretty large (or myb almost slipped away from the orbit for a while). It takes one generation for the gravitational force of the sun to get the earth back to circulate it. Damn!
Just a reminder if you’ve never seen game of thrones. No matter what anyone says the show ends after season 5. Save yourself the hurt
the story of the last hero would make a great novel
Until a hero emerged.
is lightbringer valarien steel ?
Is that a remix of Carl orff fortuna?
John Snow or Mother of Dragons?
neither
Stannis baratheon the one true king.
Hodor
Bran Stark
Sandor Clegayne
wow. watching all this, and learning about martins actual vision really devalues the tv series as they explain none of this, and obviously its so far from what George wants that its basically its own thing.
When did Jon pull out a burning sword 🗡? Or Aria?
Not sure about including the ability for Others being able to summon giant ice spiders as true is correct, I mean have we seen a single mention of this power beyond Old Nan?
The world of ice and fire
Old Nan is rarely wrong.
I wanna see a spinoff show which occurs 100 years after game of thrones. New lands have been discovered. A new king is chosen but is more of a julius ceaser figure and like alexander the great wants to invade the lands of sothoryos. The free cities of essos, dothraki , six kingdoms of westeros, north all are battling for more power in new lands. With mentions to far east essos mainly asshai. Imagine a story where the king wants to bring back north and invade west. Perhaps a dictator figure with houses trying to bring him down. I would like a scene where a pirate or traveller goes to west of westeros and finds a stranded ship with a skeleton missing an arm which clearly belongs to arya stark.
Great!!!!thank u
I'm still waiting for recap of the seson 3 and 4.
WIll be done before the next season of GoT
Thanks.This is a nice channel,it would be shame if something happends to it.
:|. Why ...
I know people who know people who are conected to the fair use shit going on.
CivilizationEx Rock on good videos btw
The Reverse Nissa Nissa folks aka jon snow is actually not azora ahai but danny is!! so that leaves jon snow as Nissa Nissa!! facts. nice vid Civ as usual
:)
+CivilizationEx but Jon doesn't know nothing :( don't kill Jon xD
why reverse tho? why isnt it the other way around? theres still a lot to see xD we all know nothing
Davos is Azor Ahai! He will slay Melisandre. He has been right under her nose the entire time!
Jon Cheshire omg. I think you may be right.
Everyone thinks it's gonna be Jon or Dany but in reality it's Aegon VI because he was born on dragonstone (amidst salt and smoke) a targaryen (blood of the dragon) and a red comet could be seen above kings landing when he was born. Thus, he is azor ahai.
Yes maybe in the books but not on the show
FIRST! Love your videos?
Love-it!
Do you think that the wall will come down in season 7/ book 7
For the night is dark and full of terrors.
Does this mean the Night's Watch existed before the wall
Yes they did.
Ruben Avalos How long do you think the knights watch existed before the wall do you think the timing is close enough for Brandon the builders son to be the 13th lord commander I think the 13th lord commander has to be a few decades maybe a century after the long night
***** First the Long Night happened. Then some years into it a hero who in Northern legend is remembered as the Last Hero united with the Children of the Forest to end it in the Battle for the Dawn. Soon after the Others/White Walkers were driven North to the Lands of Always Winter, Brandon the Builder, founder of House Stark, with the help of the Children of the Forest built the Wall. He also built Winterfell and the Oldtown Citadel allegedly. The men who aided the Last Hero formed and established the Night's Watch to protect the realm of men. Those unfortunate people who were beyond became the Free Folk/Wildlings. After 13 generations, the 13th Lord Commander declared himself the King of the Night's Watch and served the Others, taking one of them or a Wight as his Queen. He ruled with cruelty and obscenity, until the King Beyond the Wall elected by the Free Folk and the current King of Winter/King in the North, a Stark, united their forces and deposed of the Night's King freeing the Night's Watch from his leadership. It's speculated the Night's King was indeed a relative of King Stark at the time, a brother, cousin, or even bastard half-brother. He may have been a descendant of Brandon Stark, but not his immediate son as his time was at least 13 generations after.
Ruben Avalos thanks for the clarification I always get confused as to when the nights watch got started and I have heard people say so many different things about the 13th lord commander but now I know it's 13 generations so thank you for letting me know
***** No problem. 😄
So this suggests that right side of essos is connected to North of westeroes?
Azor ahai: I think he is bran the builder
In islam. The wildlings or freefolk were described as gog magog tribes.
Here lies the TRUE STORY why the Others/White Walkers brought the Long Night to Westeros while the known world also affected.
The Night King and the rest of the White Walkers minds were enslaved by magic that the Children of the Forest cast on them as suitable weapons against the First Men during the war against them. After the war ended and the pact sealed between the Children and the First Men. The Others were put into a slumber in the Land of the Always Winter in frigid ice tombs until a time for them to be used again. But upon the coming Age of Heroes, the magic that enslaved the minds of the White Walkers and their king were weakened and soon broken. It was this forthcoming that the Night King finally regained his consciousness over a long a centuries being a puppet for the Children of the Forest. But his other kins have no conscience for they are long empty husk of their former self. They themselves can still follow the absolute order of their king. Only the Night King has intelligence that of a human but he can't never remember who he is from the time before he became what he is. Though he never forgets the ones that did this to him in the first place.
The Long Night begins. Not a cataclysm that played as a cycle against the survival of the human race. But a ravenous revenge and vengeance that the Night King felt unto him towards the Children of the Forest. He only marched from the north of Westeros to the south as to find and massacred and bring extinction to his makers and puppeteers, the Children of the Forest. The First Men were only his way that resulted in collateral damage. Being short-sighted, the First Men mistook the White Walkers intention along the impending cold winter unleashed by them as something that would driven them to extinction. Soon it reached as a climax that the First Men noted this as the War of the Living and the Dead, the War of the Dawn. The Children of the Forest also put themselves as also siding with the First Men but entirely hiding all along it was their mistake of creating and unleashing something they thought they have it controlled. Like it happened in the tale, both the Night Watch and the Last Hero were able to push the Others and their horde of undead farther north. But in reality, the Night King had seen enough that his entourage towards the killing of the Children of the Forest given him an insight that no farther sooner the Children last surviving members won't last in the world. He made it look like the Last Hero and the Night Watch able to defeat him and his fellow kins. In truer perspective, he was just pulling back his forces in the Land of Always Winter and once again to slumber for centuries to come.
The Wall was built and act as a deterrent against the Others if they intent to go south. It was at the time in the aftermath of the Long Night that the Children of the Forest spread the word that the White Walkers and the Night King are pure cold evil incarnate and a threat to the living. Going on and on that they have no conscience mind but just pure hate and cruelty to all living things, a monsters. They're painting them as something the world doesn't need. Worshipers of the Old Gods but liars in a sense. Just not knowing the facts that the real reason the Others killed all of them was an act of revenge bias the Night King intention.
After 8,000 years, he's awoken once again but is completely unknown what his intention towards Westeros.
As what the Starks used to say "Winter is Coming".
The new music is cool and fit the video well, but I hope you go back to the original music next time.
I have a lot to say for this.
I believe (like Preston Jacobs) that there is no magic in A song of ice and fire universe. The long night was most probably a nuclear winter from the war of children and the first men who were most probably highly advanced . Prophecy isn't real, nobody's Azor Ahai. The others are mutations of humans(we know this because humans and others can breed).
More of all of this is in Preston Jacobs' series "The minds of wolves and Robins"
Nefarian? I thought we killed him in Cata
Do you think you can do a video on the history of famous dragons? Thanks for the great videos
Already have :)
ua-cam.com/video/ukMVr8t223U/v-deo.html
I always wondered when they say it lasted for a generation how long is that? 20-25 years?
Lt. Commander Olly Jackson a generation is usually when the children of the previous generation starts having kids, so nowadays it would be roughly 20-35 years. However got/asoiaf is based on medieval times so the people were married younger, longer, and had more children. Therefore a generation in asoiaf/got would roughly be anywhere from 14-27 years
@@rna5118 Yeah that works for me
How are they going to wrap this show up with only 6 episodes??? With all the character storylines they have to end and now the long night has come again. I don’t see it.
They tried which is probably why S7 ended up being a shitpile with teleporting characters and people acting out of character so they can hurry up and die or be put to where they need to be before the war starts. There's still a lot to deal with though. I wonder who runs the Riverlands now?
Azor Ahai is Brianne. I'm calling it.
Nefarion, like the Son of Neltharion in WoW Lore
I just discovered that the Chinese word for Dragon is Lóng. Now I have no reason to think this is significant but...
Did the last hero kill the night king? If not then why didn’t the night king just keep fighting
There is no Night King in the books, like there is in the show. There is another character called the Nights King, but he is a historical figure from the Night's Watch, not the leader of the White Walkers. In the books they don't have a single leader, at least as far as we know.
My theory
I think bran went past to stop the children from the others.. For that he warg into a person... Turns out That's person is the one who the children tied up with the tree and changed in the NK... That's how bran got stuck up and he never comes back in his present from ... Then the final fight begin with jon riding reagal and the NK viserion... The dance of dragons begins... Finally jon noticed that the NK eyes looks like bran right now that he is not waking up... He realise and kill bran with pain in his heart.... The sorwd in the chest of bran burn red... Becoming the lightbringer... And with him all the WW die...
Dany die giving birth to their daughter lyanna... And the show ends with jon holding lyanna in his lap in front his mother lyanna's statue.
The end
Now I'm gonna go home and cry. 😭😭😭
So there were 3 long nights then correct ?
There was only 1 in 8000bc, which others are your referring too?
@@CivilizationEx what about with the 13th lord commander wifing a NW and taking control of the nights watch etc and the 3rd i meant was just present day the shit we see in the show.
We don't know for sure if the Night Kings wife was a white walker, but either way there was no long night when that happened as far as we know, no long winter and invasion of white Walkers. The new white walker invasion and winter might become a second long night but we don't know if it will for sure because in the books winter just started and we don't know how long it will last yet.
@@CivilizationEx right on, so the Night kings wife in the books was just an incident of an evil lord commander for the most part, rather than a full on "long night"
just needed some clarification there, because i read the first 2 books YEARS ago long before there was ever a show. I think if winds of winter comes out sooner rather than later ill go ahead and just get caught up on the series, Appreciate the clarification buddy. Subbed.
@@inmybloodboxing.1992 :)
Why can't we have a story about this and the starks of old?
Not too much info
the long night will come again in the final season.
Its ending not coming
So did westeros and essos have two different long nights like at the same time. West fought the walkers and essos fought a demon army?
I believe that Westeros and Essos are connected or at least in times of extreme cold you can cross the ice (like Russia and Alaska in the past) and the Others advanced in both directions at the same time
WE NEED WINDS OF WINTER
What happened to old valyria during the long night? Were they just chilling with their dragons
The Valyrian Freehold was likely founded many years after the Long Night.
Old Valyria did not exist during the Long Night. The Long Night happened thousands of years before the existence of Old Valyria.
I believe didn't exist yet
What about if Summer becomes a zombie direwolf? D:
Very likely. Although it is a little bit forced that Jon or someone relevant comes in contact with him. I mean common he is one wolf in the middle of a horde of undead.
***** The Nights King could play the psychological game.
PixelSheep
I'd say he dont need to do so. (having an army of everything that ever died is ... a neat advantage)
The reasoning would be 4 fun ramsay style.
But Ramsay style does not fit the night king, as far as I know, but I could be wrong.
Did you see him at the end of Hardhome all like "Come at me bitch" as he raised the dead.
so you mean that the real threat is not in tne NORTH but came from essos during the long night where the Azhor ahai emerge?
Jerald Lerida the Others camefrom the North, nd perhaps are the same demons described as attacking the East if that legend is to be believed, which would mean the continents might be connected.
Wait...is that the spider from the LoTR focus series?