I sincerely hope you enjoy this video, I loved digging through the emulation history since it has such a huge part of today's gaming world Sorry that my English is not perfect, it's not my native language. Made by Sakharu, voiced over by Brad Ziffer.
I feel old know because I was a teenager in the 90s and adult thru all that followed. I was in the early emulation scene and someone who followed this closely. Now it's "history".... and has to be "researched" by people who where not even alive on the planet at that time, and for whom it might as well be research into the Edison lightbulb. 😔
But the profits! 😭 game companies should be allowed to sit on things they'll never do anything with because fuck all of us. It's best for all of us that we should have to pay $300 to a collector if we want to play Pokemon blue. Nevermind that Nintendo hasn't seen a dime of that after initial sale. 🤡
Yuzu’s problem was not just emulation. It was the fact they were emulating a current gen system AND they were making a shit ton of money from Patreon. They also used leaked IP to assist the reverse engineering AND they updated the latest version of Yuzu behind a paywall so that it was compatible with the leaked Tears of the Kingdom files prior to the game coming out. They messed up big time and just hurt all other emulator makers by their greed and irresponsibility
@@dtape Nintendo also get a lot of crap for getting their lawyers after ROM sites but almost all the ones who have gotten in serious legal trouble were making money in some way. A few years ago they went after a few big ROM sites but left even more alone. The difference was the ones they went after were generating revenue. I mean, almost every single Nintendo game with the exception of the last few generations can be found on Internet Archive, tens of thousands of ROMs. Until now, IA has been left alone and they are a non-profit.
Those weren't the punishable offences. Because they aren't illegal, like Nintendo wishes to be. Also TOTK was only bootable with third party mods. It only became bootable after release date. Their discord server contained pirated roms for debugging. Which made Yuzu team settle out of court. This was their downfall. The paywall wasn't a mandatory thing... Like you easily could build your own Early access build. Yuzu team gave Instructions how to do that, like how to dump games. Only thing Yuzu's Patreon did was giving financial ammo for a lawsuit. (It's basically useless to make a lawsuit to a party who has no money.) Donating also let you use their EA builds, which are often in mainline in less than two weeks. Again, it was not needed at all. Beside the piracy, Nintendo claims were iffy at best. With History of emulation Nintendo wouldn't gotten far, but they had a trump card due to the discord server. Also, If piracy wasn't the thing. Nintendo would have stretched out the lawsuit till Yuzu ran out of money. Justice didn't win, the deepest pocket did. This is why people find it weird Ryujinx also got hit. They were clean.
Oh man NESticle! I haven’t heard that name in 28 years. I remember my friend installing that on the computer lab computers back in middle school. Dude was playing Super Mario Bros. It was a sight to behold back then.
I experienced this firsthand some time ago. I was at a Best Buy, browsing game peripherals, when I start to shoot the breeze with a Final Fantasy enthusiast. I mention that I’m finally getting to play Final Fantasy III/VI through an SNES rom. His tone goes from welcoming to cold when he tells me, “Good luck with that.” It blew my mind that emulating a game from almost 30 years ago would be seen as unethical. He definitely seemed like the type to shell out $60+ dollars on an SNES cartridge that may or may not work.
@@Diggy22 the same shills that think translated roms should be illegal too and if we didn't get it here in English officially then we just shouldn't be able to play it because they didn't want us to.
I have a friend that sees fit to pay top dollar to see a 30-40 year old film that's available for free in much better quality outside of the big streaming platforms.
it really is the only way to preserve video game history. no matter the downsides of piracy it's the only way to essentially keep the history or games alive. it's a digital museum.
Wow, amazing doc. Just started getting into the emu scene and this scratched the itch for me. Obviously a lot of work and talent were required to make this exist. Great work!
Remember everyone, emulation does not equal piracy. Legally obtained games can be played in emulators and pirated games can be played on real hardware. Nintendo had the right to go after Yuzu because at least one dumbass was distributing Nintendo's copyrighted works. They did mot have the same claim against Ryujinx! The Ryujinx takedown was a case of corporate bullying! Nintendo sent their lawyers to this poor guy's house to threaten a lawsuit that Nintendo would never have won in a fair court, but that the developer could not afford to fight.
That's not exactly right. Nintendo went after Yuzu first because they were clearly doing some work that required having the games prior to their release (Yuzu was notorious for having poor compatibility until it gets patched with some fixes). The distribution of ROMs in their discord were more just ruining any chance of a legitimate defense. Hence why they settled so fast. Ryujinx is more that the guy lived in Brazil so, running through their court system would be a lengthy process. Nintendo also probably does this with every notable hacker/emulator developer since just paying them off with a threat of a lawsuit (and sometimes a job offer) is probably easier than going through the entire legal process. The legality is still kind of up in the air. Judging by EU law, they are probably legal but, under American law and the DMCA, they are not.
Although since we no longer own the games we just license them to play from Nintendo! Technically it's nintendos decision who can play it or not and where can it be played ! U can't say u r playing a 3ds game on citra coz nintendo doesn't sell it anymore ! It's more like the license to play doesn't exist ! Kinda simple that one !
4:39 the Super Game Boy really wasn't emulation at all. It had the exact same CPU, etc, as a real Game Boy. It was just a different form factor. "Hardware emulation" is not the correct term here, IMO, which most people use to refer to FPGA. That nitpick aside, great video, as always. Keep up the good work.
As someone who believes that emulation is absolutely necessary, this is one of my favorite videos ever. Obviously I don't condone just pirating a game if you could easily afford it, but emulation is one of the most important things in gaming and I'll never agree that it's just a piracy tool. In a perfect world, emulators wouldn't be needed... but if you think emulating a game is amoral compared to spending hundreds (thousands?) of dollars of money that the original devs will never see... then I don't know what to say.
Here is my problem with Nintendo. I am 42 years old. I have been spending allowance money since i was a child, and hard earned money from jobs to buy consoles and games. I bought a switch a month after release. It died three years later. (my Gamecube still works and it has moving parts!) No water damage, no drops, no excessive heat. I used it on my bus ride to work and again to home, an hour and half each way. Once I no longer needed a but, I started emulating Switch on my computer, using my roommate's Switch to not only purchase games, but to dump what I had to work on my computer. The day Nintendo went after Yuzu, I moved everything in emulation to a hard drive and put in a box, with all the other boxes of various Nintendo consoles and games. They kill off the e-shops with no hint of refunds or discounts for all the purchases, and now emulators. I cannot support this company anymore. Even playing their games feels bad.
This UA-cam channel is absolutely top-tier, I have thoroughly enjoyed watching all of these retrospective documentaries. Thank you for making these videos and can't wait for the next one.
Emulation helps game preservation, but for older consoles, not when the emulator is competing with a console that is on the market. The case for Switch is more obvious, but you can still legally buy new 3DS and Wii U games at Web-stores in 2024, even though Nintendo is not selling more Wii U or 3DS consoles.
@48:20 What ruling? Tropical Haze didn't go to court, instead they settled outside for the 2,4mil. There is no trial to definitive decide that as far as I know.
Great video that brought back many good memories as I got into emulation right when it all began. Dave's Videogames Classics is still sorely missed to this day
Many thanks for this deep dive into the history of emulation. It was fascinating to watch and learn about many of the games I played as a child. Long live game preservation! Long live!
the reason i love emulation so much is bc it makes gaming accessible to everybody, mostly for free. as long as you have a smartphone or pc or any device really you can download emulators and play thousands of games for free. not everybody has hundreds of spare dollars to spend on gaming consoles. myself included. i think its great to be able to enjoy gaming without spending a ton of money. not to mention most of the games people emulate are no longer sold in stores (at least new) so its not like the devs are losing money. i dont even consider it piracy bc the games are no longer being produced. its very anti consumer that game companies are trying to remove their roms from the internet, and the companies are just erasing their own history. the love and care the devs put into these classic games deserves to be preserved.
I read one sentence and commented. So you love video games but don't want to pay for them? Without these companies like Nintendo you wouldn't need emulators, there would be no games.
@@Greazvstheworldif Nintendo wants me to pay for a 30 year old game they can sell me the ROM at a reasonable price instead of demanding rent or trying to re-sell me a poorly emulated version every console generation
@@ArmandoDoval Lets make Nintendo the arbiters of your products, creations and services. When's the last time you made a game and someone told you how to sell it to them lol. How dare Nintendo sell their own products to make money for their business.
45:50 To be fair, the decision to Impliment Denuvo and the decision to file against Tropic Haze were two unrelated issues. Denuvo was an attempt to curb piracy itself, Tropic Haze painted a target on their backs the moment they admitted in interviews they utilize work that players made for games prior to retail release date. That as well as many of the public statements about Decryption, and the large Patreon, really put them in Nintendo's radar. Nice video, I'm a long time emu contributor and games modder, and thoroughly enjoyed the effort you put in
It would've been interesting how much of that would keep up in court. It's sad the lawsuit never came to be, just to let Nintendo sing a different tune. But their pockets would be the winner.
Big companies have the attitude that emulation is the epitome of evil, unless it's being used by them to sell you the same games over and over again in which case emulation is just awesome!
I didn't care for the topic of the video at first, but you made another impresive video out of it, man, I forgot how big and meaningful emulation was for me in the '00, it was a really exiting era all around. Your videos are always top notch
Emulation and Abandonware sites have saved and made so many games possible for people to rediscover and explore that would otherwise be impossible withouth being rich, god knows you still have to fennagle with old PC games but its the price you pay, all i care is that one can still play em. People who have made these emulators, usually for free are definetly some of the heroes of video game history, cause it SURE as hell aint the publishers or IP owners that bought up the companies that failed and never did ANYTHING with them.
Awesome summary. As someone being in the scene since 1994 this was awesome to watch; highly recommended. I am sure that in the long-term, a balance between freedom of emulation and commercial interests will be found. Fingers crossed!
In the EU and several other places such as Australia, emulation will always be legal. Why the fuck would they care about mostly foreign entities crying over emulation? It's the same mentality that drives right to repair laws and standardization of various things, like phone chargers for example.
I wish emulation wasn't frowned upon, to the point that you're supposed to rip roms of your own physical games. If you have a computer, you should be able to download games for your favorite CLASSIC console and play them. By Classic console I mean a console that is no longer supported by its company. So the original NES, SNES, N64 as examples.
@@HAHb-zc2dpthe companies, but people take advantage. Even super mario party Jamboree has been bootlegged before launch. It's sad how it's abused. These companies mess up a ton too, but emulation should be reserved for classics no longer available to buy, as Heather-Br said. Translations too, as starfy trilogy on switch online showed too.
@@MrVariant if something is bootlegged before launch that's an internal leak problem. Emulation should be available for everything, digital has zero value to me, I simply don't pay for digital anything it's repulsive. It's not my fault someone was smart enough to make emulations and roms or anything else I take for free online,and I find no moral objections to taking ones and zeros . Might as well be on the side of the companies and try to say modding a console is wrong,no, i paid for it,it's mine to do with as I please.
@@HAHb-zc2dp I was mostly referring to big companies like Nintendo who frown on third-party emulators. Even though, as the video says, they can be used for much more than piracy. Including making making titles like Pokémon Clystal playable by visually imaired gamers, thanks to their ability to run mods or patches that add text-to-speech capabiliteis into these old titles.
Emulators are starting implement AI translation, allowing people to play games that never got a release in the west, and allowing people to bypass the many obnoxiously bad localizations.
“'Course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough.” - Noah Cross, Chinatown Emulation too will become respectable. It just needs to survive. Excellent video.😎👍
Thanks. One of my favorite subjects. To anyone interested, there is a connection between the 'Virtual Game Station' and Apple's transition from 68k to PPC processors, since one of the Connectix programmers Eric Traut contributed to the 'Mac 86k emulator' that made possible 68k Mac software running in Mac OS 8.5 through 9.2. No doubt that later inspired the Classic Environment in Mac OS X.
Thank you so much for another episode, great channel! A word to the great voiceover artist: You're quite talented, but you mispronounce the names of some people and companies in previous episodes, making it sound like the person speaking is not knowledgeable on this subject. This is only meant to encourage improvement, I'm very impressed by this work so far.
I'ma throw some names out there. RAGE Callus NeoRage System 16 Retrocade I think it was called? I have to dig thru my backups. I remember when MAMEcould fit on a single CD. Anyone remember this? 😎
I feel like a massive thing you lack to talk about is fightcade. But I feel I get it cause it would feel bloated but adding rollback netcode was huge to retro games. There was also 0 ruling by a court and the nintendo suing yuzu did not change the law. It never went to court. It was settled out of court.
The first big revolution was NESTicle but most of that Genecyst from the same developers. In 1997 you were suddenly able to play 4MB particularly good graphics games from the Genesis in VGA 320x200 on a Pentium PC. At the same time, the only good platform games on PC we had so far were Jazz Jackrabbit and Prehistorik. The Street Fighter or Sonic official ports on DOS/Windows were awful and required 40MB! So Genecyst was a revolution to let us access 500+ games fluid and with good graphics on the PC at that time.
I actually saw someone transplant a SGB processor into a DMG, and it worked. The cartridge is just an adapter that converts the video output into a format the SNES can understand, and the audio is probably just sent through the analog audio pins.
Like your videos a lot. Can you do a documentary on the Nintendo GameCube? Would be amazing. It has a pretty controversial history when it was in development (codename Dolphin). Have a nice day.
Since we're on the topic, I never got to play final fantasy 7 as a kid. I recently started playing it on a ps1 emulator and then also gave it a shot on the switch port. My question is this Is it abnormal to be able to move around during combat ? (very small area you can move around in) It only works on the ps1 emu. I can't dodge/run on the switch version during combat though. None of my friends remember being able to do that.
Thank you for a very informative and entertaining vid-docu.I myself absolutely love emulation,for many reasons ,no.1 is of course cost,if i had the relevant consoles that i emulate,plus all the games,it would take up considerable space,and money.Not to mention,the exceptional quality improvement in emu in the last 5years.I actually worked out the cost,if i had bought the consoles and games that i have on my pc,all in all the cost was close to £50,000.Without emulation ,the gaming market would suffer
This video is what people have been waiting for, honestly a video covering the history of emulation and the question that always have beared over it. Thank you!
Major major flaw.... The was no court ruling in the yuzu cast. Is was an out of court settlement... That a huge difference. No one knows how a court would have ruled....
No ruling but a final judgement and a permanent injunction that already sided with Nintendo, according to the lawyers that I contacted, it's more than enough to question the legality of emulation AGAIN even after the Connectix vs Sony case because it doesn't cover the same area
The problem are copyright laws. They are there to protect the investment made in development, keeping people from just copying your hard earned development. They are not there to give you exclusive monopoly for 75 years. The idea of market competition encourages advancement doesn’t work if copyright owners can just sit on their former wares, not forced to keep competing. Their universal application does not work. A piece of music has qualities in it that make the work more relevant and competitive still today whereas a video game from the 70’s is generationally not in the same ballpark. A junior high school student could code a 70’s video game in a school project, but you still need to be a master musician to write a high quality pop song. Music deserves a longer protection period because competition will not be held back. Nintendo’s lawyers are actively monopolizing their old IP over competing in a new market, sitting on former work and creating friction in the market. That is not what government regulation is there to do. There should be a point where a royalty is the only form of protection from someone “copying” your exact work (therefore you can’t take a video game character and put them in a totally different game, as that should not be allowed with IP). The software association should work on this, as the big guys should be working on maintaining the integrity of their IP, not putting all these barriers and friction to market essentially obsolete tech,
I never got nitified of this video and it never showed up in my recommendations even though I've been subscribed since you first video. Instead I was recommended a different video of yours I've already watched so i clicked your channel. I think UA-cam is stopping you video from sending notifications and recommending it because it doesn't condem emulation
In my opinion, the problem is that people started emulating games back when you could still find games and they were affordable. Obviously, people did this because they wanted to play as many games as possible with paying the lowest amount. But from my perspective, now that created what we have which is none of the big companies ended up re-releasing games for older systems, and now it's impossible to find them at reasonable prices. And now, even people who don't want to have to do anything in a legal grey area in order to play the games that they want to play have to participate in that. Or spend a lot of time searching for big priced games. And not just games to put on the shelf.
This is some of the best content on UA-cam. The PS2 documentry the best I have ever seen. I hope this channel blows up and gets the success it deserves.
12:56 Sony claims the emulator outputs poor graphics, and could harm their business. 15:06 Sony cries because the emulator makes their games look TOO good. 22:08 Back when XFire Messenger was around, it had the ability to detect what game you were playing, what server you were on if the game had those, and track play time(this was before Steam could do that, and before Steam was even any good). I had to fight to get emulators added to the tracking list because most people who used XFire(even the developers) claimed that emulation was piracy. However, I made a post about piracy was the problem of the user, not the emulation developer. Citing several sources that proved that emulation was legal, including the two court cases that Sony had been involved in. Emulators became trackable in XFire within the week. Probably my only claim to fame, and no one today will ever know as XFire has been dead quite some time now. 26:01 It gets better. Second generation PS3 consoles moved to software emulation for their PS2 backwards compatibility. Rather than including the full guts of a PS2 like in the first generation. Third generation dropped PS2 completely in favor of the PS2 classics(buy it again, you plebs!). 47:07 It should be noted that Dolphin was removed from Steam because the Steam version of the emulator included the Nintendo BIOS files required to run the Wii and GameCube. 49:27 As of this video: RetroArch(supports all consoles it does on PC), PPSSPP(PSP), Gamma(PS1) and Delta(NES, SNES, N64, GB, GBC, GBA and DS).
one of the best gaming channels on youtube. your excellent writing with the professional narration and tons of relevant interesting clips is a really great combo
This topic always makes me feel so nostalgic, cause it was in 1999 when i had my own 1st PC and months later found the world of emulation through friends, was about that time that Pokemon games appeared in GBC, i didn't had a GB so a friend helped me install "Rew", which was a GBC emulator that ran well back then and the Pokemon Red and Blue and Yellow sometime later, Zsnes emu was also great for running SNES on low spec PCs, i used that one a lot, also Genesis emus like Genecyst and Kgen98 in the past, do you also remember the Emurayden Emulator which was the successor of Connectix Virtual Game Station? that one caught many by surprise and ran pretty well😄
I sincerely hope you enjoy this video, I loved digging through the emulation history since it has such a huge part of today's gaming world
Sorry that my English is not perfect, it's not my native language.
Made by Sakharu, voiced over by Brad Ziffer.
Deep and impressive research. Believe me, we appreciate what you do.
You and Brad are great collaborators. Thanks to both of you for such excellent videos.
I feel old know because I was a teenager in the 90s and adult thru all that followed. I was in the early emulation scene and someone who followed this closely. Now it's "history".... and has to be "researched" by people who where not even alive on the planet at that time, and for whom it might as well be research into the Edison lightbulb. 😔
No worries! I think your videos are very well written
Right there with ya 😂 @@mr.selfimprovement3241
Without emulation I genuinely wouldn't have played 80% of pre 2000 games I've plated. It's an amazing tool for cataloging and experiencing the past!
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Too bad the software and hardware giants don’t give a shit about what you play or don’t, they only care about money.
@SuperCopter-o1nYes Chef.
@@TokyoXtremewhat are you??
But the profits! 😭 game companies should be allowed to sit on things they'll never do anything with because fuck all of us. It's best for all of us that we should have to pay $300 to a collector if we want to play Pokemon blue. Nevermind that Nintendo hasn't seen a dime of that after initial sale. 🤡
This content is pure gold!
I like that you sprang for a narrator instead of AI voice crap. It's massively better quality for it.
@@mr.selfimprovement3241 couldn't agree more!
"Brad Ziffer" is the well know pseudonym of a natural voice narration AI.
@@Zarnubius You're a clown. Dude has a website, headshots, etc.
@@Zarnubiusfor an AI, he has quite a resume.....
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I would argue that in the case of the Super Gameboy there is no emulation happening at all as the device is in fact a real Gameboy without a screen.
Yuzu’s problem was not just emulation. It was the fact they were emulating a current gen system AND they were making a shit ton of money from Patreon. They also used leaked IP to assist the reverse engineering AND they updated the latest version of Yuzu behind a paywall so that it was compatible with the leaked Tears of the Kingdom files prior to the game coming out. They messed up big time and just hurt all other emulator makers by their greed and irresponsibility
You're right. The video should have included this detail. Very important motivation for Nintendo to take action against Yuzu.
@@dtape Nintendo also get a lot of crap for getting their lawyers after ROM sites but almost all the ones who have gotten in serious legal trouble were making money in some way. A few years ago they went after a few big ROM sites but left even more alone. The difference was the ones they went after were generating revenue. I mean, almost every single Nintendo game with the exception of the last few generations can be found on Internet Archive, tens of thousands of ROMs. Until now, IA has been left alone and they are a non-profit.
No, their issue was they got caught distributing ROMs and piracy resources over discord.
Those weren't the punishable offences. Because they aren't illegal, like Nintendo wishes to be. Also TOTK was only bootable with third party mods. It only became bootable after release date.
Their discord server contained pirated roms for debugging. Which made Yuzu team settle out of court. This was their downfall.
The paywall wasn't a mandatory thing... Like you easily could build your own Early access build. Yuzu team gave Instructions how to do that, like how to dump games. Only thing Yuzu's Patreon did was giving financial ammo for a lawsuit. (It's basically useless to make a lawsuit to a party who has no money.)
Donating also let you use their EA builds, which are often in mainline in less than two weeks. Again, it was not needed at all.
Beside the piracy, Nintendo claims were iffy at best. With History of emulation Nintendo wouldn't gotten far, but they had a trump card due to the discord server.
Also, If piracy wasn't the thing. Nintendo would have stretched out the lawsuit till Yuzu ran out of money.
Justice didn't win, the deepest pocket did. This is why people find it weird Ryujinx also got hit. They were clean.
No, the only problem was the leaked TOTK on their Patreon. Everything else was legally defensible and wouldn't succeed in a court of law
Oh man NESticle! I haven’t heard that name in 28 years. I remember my friend installing that on the computer lab computers back in middle school. Dude was playing Super Mario Bros. It was a sight to behold back then.
that cut off hand!
I remember using it also.
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Excellent, calm narration with flawless intonation. You, good sir, have a knack for this and earned yourself a subscriber.
The Nintendo shills who hate emulation will gladly spend full price to "officially" emulate the same games they've bought over and over again.
I know such moronic types.
I experienced this firsthand some time ago. I was at a Best Buy, browsing game peripherals, when I start to shoot the breeze with a Final Fantasy enthusiast. I mention that I’m finally getting to play Final Fantasy III/VI through an SNES rom. His tone goes from welcoming to cold when he tells me, “Good luck with that.” It blew my mind that emulating a game from almost 30 years ago would be seen as unethical. He definitely seemed like the type to shell out $60+ dollars on an SNES cartridge that may or may not work.
@@Diggy22 the same shills that think translated roms should be illegal too and if we didn't get it here in English officially then we just shouldn't be able to play it because they didn't want us to.
I have a friend that sees fit to pay top dollar to see a 30-40 year old film that's available for free in much better quality outside of the big streaming platforms.
@@Diggy22 Yeah just ignore these kinds of people. They will never get it.
it really is the only way to preserve video game history. no matter the downsides of piracy it's the only way to essentially keep the history or games alive. it's a digital museum.
Wow, amazing doc. Just started getting into the emu scene and this scratched the itch for me. Obviously a lot of work and talent were required to make this exist. Great work!
Remember everyone, emulation does not equal piracy. Legally obtained games can be played in emulators and pirated games can be played on real hardware.
Nintendo had the right to go after Yuzu because at least one dumbass was distributing Nintendo's copyrighted works. They did mot have the same claim against Ryujinx! The Ryujinx takedown was a case of corporate bullying! Nintendo sent their lawyers to this poor guy's house to threaten a lawsuit that Nintendo would never have won in a fair court, but that the developer could not afford to fight.
That's not exactly right. Nintendo went after Yuzu first because they were clearly doing some work that required having the games prior to their release (Yuzu was notorious for having poor compatibility until it gets patched with some fixes). The distribution of ROMs in their discord were more just ruining any chance of a legitimate defense. Hence why they settled so fast.
Ryujinx is more that the guy lived in Brazil so, running through their court system would be a lengthy process. Nintendo also probably does this with every notable hacker/emulator developer since just paying them off with a threat of a lawsuit (and sometimes a job offer) is probably easier than going through the entire legal process. The legality is still kind of up in the air. Judging by EU law, they are probably legal but, under American law and the DMCA, they are not.
Sure but copying data also doesn't equal piracy, that's narcissistic nullification
Although since we no longer own the games we just license them to play from Nintendo! Technically it's nintendos decision who can play it or not and where can it be played ! U can't say u r playing a 3ds game on citra coz nintendo doesn't sell it anymore ! It's more like the license to play doesn't exist ! Kinda simple that one !
4:39 the Super Game Boy really wasn't emulation at all. It had the exact same CPU, etc, as a real Game Boy. It was just a different form factor. "Hardware emulation" is not the correct term here, IMO, which most people use to refer to FPGA. That nitpick aside, great video, as always. Keep up the good work.
Correct, the Super Game boy was actually a Game Boy in a cartridge. It used the SNES for power, video output, and for the controllers.
Came here to say this.
As someone who believes that emulation is absolutely necessary, this is one of my favorite videos ever. Obviously I don't condone just pirating a game if you could easily afford it, but emulation is one of the most important things in gaming and I'll never agree that it's just a piracy tool. In a perfect world, emulators wouldn't be needed... but if you think emulating a game is amoral compared to spending hundreds (thousands?) of dollars of money that the original devs will never see... then I don't know what to say.
Here is my problem with Nintendo. I am 42 years old. I have been spending allowance money since i was a child, and hard earned money from jobs to buy consoles and games. I bought a switch a month after release. It died three years later. (my Gamecube still works and it has moving parts!) No water damage, no drops, no excessive heat. I used it on my bus ride to work and again to home, an hour and half each way. Once I no longer needed a but, I started emulating Switch on my computer, using my roommate's Switch to not only purchase games, but to dump what I had to work on my computer. The day Nintendo went after Yuzu, I moved everything in emulation to a hard drive and put in a box, with all the other boxes of various Nintendo consoles and games. They kill off the e-shops with no hint of refunds or discounts for all the purchases, and now emulators. I cannot support this company anymore. Even playing their games feels bad.
These roms and emulators for retros games and consoles have been shared so many times theyll never be able to stop it.
I wish them luck in trying, without Nintendo you wouldn't need emulators
This UA-cam channel is absolutely top-tier, I have thoroughly enjoyed watching all of these retrospective documentaries. Thank you for making these videos and can't wait for the next one.
Nesticle might just be the best name I’ve ever heard for anything
Emulation helps game preservation, but for older consoles, not when the emulator is competing with a console that is on the market.
The case for Switch is more obvious, but you can still legally buy new 3DS and Wii U games at Web-stores in 2024, even though Nintendo is not selling more Wii U or 3DS consoles.
@48:20 What ruling? Tropical Haze didn't go to court, instead they settled outside for the 2,4mil. There is no trial to definitive decide that as far as I know.
You make really good video game documentaries, I hope to see more from you in the future.
This was a fantastic video! I loved learning about emulation's early days and seeing magazines talk about them.
Finally got to watch! Excellent as always and a bit surprising of a topic. Thanks!!
Great video that brought back many good memories as I got into emulation right when it all began. Dave's Videogames Classics is still sorely missed to this day
Many thanks for this deep dive into the history of emulation. It was fascinating to watch and learn about many of the games I played as a child. Long live game preservation! Long live!
the reason i love emulation so much is bc it makes gaming accessible to everybody, mostly for free. as long as you have a smartphone or pc or any device really you can download emulators and play thousands of games for free. not everybody has hundreds of spare dollars to spend on gaming consoles. myself included. i think its great to be able to enjoy gaming without spending a ton of money. not to mention most of the games people emulate are no longer sold in stores (at least new) so its not like the devs are losing money. i dont even consider it piracy bc the games are no longer being produced. its very anti consumer that game companies are trying to remove their roms from the internet, and the companies are just erasing their own history. the love and care the devs put into these classic games deserves to be preserved.
I read one sentence and commented. So you love video games but don't want to pay for them? Without these companies like Nintendo you wouldn't need emulators, there would be no games.
@@Greazvstheworldif Nintendo wants me to pay for a 30 year old game they can sell me the ROM at a reasonable price instead of demanding rent or trying to re-sell me a poorly emulated version every console generation
@@ArmandoDoval Lets make Nintendo the arbiters of your products, creations and services. When's the last time you made a game and someone told you how to sell it to them lol. How dare Nintendo sell their own products to make money for their business.
Thank you for this in-depth documentary!! Not only very informative, but very relevant even in 2024
45:50 To be fair, the decision to Impliment Denuvo and the decision to file against Tropic Haze were two unrelated issues. Denuvo was an attempt to curb piracy itself, Tropic Haze painted a target on their backs the moment they admitted in interviews they utilize work that players made for games prior to retail release date. That as well as many of the public statements about Decryption, and the large Patreon, really put them in Nintendo's radar.
Nice video, I'm a long time emu contributor and games modder, and thoroughly enjoyed the effort you put in
It would've been interesting how much of that would keep up in court.
It's sad the lawsuit never came to be, just to let Nintendo sing a different tune.
But their pockets would be the winner.
Super Mario 3D All-Stars have some noticeable enhancements to the games, especially on Sunshine and Galaxy, playable on widescreen and 1080p
Big companies have the attitude that emulation is the epitome of evil, unless it's being used by them to sell you the same games over and over again in which case emulation is just awesome!
It's their game to be the arbitor for.
I didn't care for the topic of the video at first, but you made another impresive video out of it, man, I forgot how big and meaningful emulation was for me in the '00, it was a really exiting era all around.
Your videos are always top notch
Emulation and Abandonware sites have saved and made so many games possible for people to rediscover and explore that would otherwise be impossible withouth being rich, god knows you still have to fennagle with old PC games but its the price you pay, all i care is that one can still play em.
People who have made these emulators, usually for free are definetly some of the heroes of video game history, cause it SURE as hell aint the publishers or IP owners that bought up the companies that failed and never did ANYTHING with them.
Awesome summary. As someone being in the scene since 1994 this was awesome to watch; highly recommended. I am sure that in the long-term, a balance between freedom of emulation and commercial interests will be found. Fingers crossed!
Surprise that ePSXe didn't get a bigger mention. It was the best ps1 emulator and played a part in the biggest console of the era.
I love your tunes
I want to thanks the youtube algorithm for bring me to this chanel, this is absolute gold.
Great video !!!
Very informative content...
Keep up the great work...
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Absolutely amazing documentary. Thank you 🙏🏽🇰🇼
Incredible content, thank you so much!
This is such a great video! The algorithm has blessed us both
In the EU and several other places such as Australia, emulation will always be legal. Why the fuck would they care about mostly foreign entities crying over emulation? It's the same mentality that drives right to repair laws and standardization of various things, like phone chargers for example.
I wish emulation wasn't frowned upon, to the point that you're supposed to rip roms of your own physical games. If you have a computer, you should be able to download games for your favorite CLASSIC console and play them. By Classic console I mean a console that is no longer supported by its company. So the original NES, SNES, N64 as examples.
Only stupid people and greedy fascist organizations like Nintendo frown on emulation.
Who is frowning on it
@@HAHb-zc2dpthe companies, but people take advantage. Even super mario party Jamboree has been bootlegged before launch. It's sad how it's abused.
These companies mess up a ton too, but emulation should be reserved for classics no longer available to buy, as Heather-Br said. Translations too, as starfy trilogy on switch online showed too.
@@MrVariant if something is bootlegged before launch that's an internal leak problem. Emulation should be available for everything, digital has zero value to me, I simply don't pay for digital anything it's repulsive. It's not my fault someone was smart enough to make emulations and roms or anything else I take for free online,and I find no moral objections to taking ones and zeros . Might as well be on the side of the companies and try to say modding a console is wrong,no, i paid for it,it's mine to do with as I please.
@@HAHb-zc2dp I was mostly referring to big companies like Nintendo who frown on third-party emulators. Even though, as the video says, they can be used for much more than piracy. Including making making titles like Pokémon Clystal playable by visually imaired gamers, thanks to their ability to run mods or patches that add text-to-speech capabiliteis into these old titles.
Emulators are starting implement AI translation, allowing people to play games that never got a release in the west, and allowing people to bypass the many obnoxiously bad localizations.
“'Course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whores all get respectable if they last long enough.” - Noah Cross, Chinatown
Emulation too will become respectable. It just needs to survive. Excellent video.😎👍
Loved using NESticle back in the day.
Very interesting! Thank you great job Sakharu
Thanks. One of my favorite subjects. To anyone interested, there is a connection between the 'Virtual Game Station' and Apple's transition from 68k to PPC processors, since one of the Connectix programmers Eric Traut contributed to the 'Mac 86k emulator' that made possible 68k Mac software running in Mac OS 8.5 through 9.2. No doubt that later inspired the Classic Environment in Mac OS X.
Dude. I seriously love your videos! Thank you!
Thank you so much for another episode, great channel!
A word to the great voiceover artist: You're quite talented, but you mispronounce the names of some people and companies in previous episodes, making it sound like the person speaking is not knowledgeable on this subject. This is only meant to encourage improvement, I'm very impressed by this work so far.
Love your videos!
Shared in our community!! Thnx your very accurate. 👍👍
Big fan. Excellent idea for a show, I don't believe the history of emulation has been covered with as much gravitas before.
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I was there, 3000 years ago, when Nesticle and SNES9X came out
Sakharu is back!!!!! LOVE your videos Sakharu!
I'ma throw some names out there.
RAGE
Callus
NeoRage
System 16
Retrocade I think it was called? I have to dig thru my backups. I remember when MAMEcould fit on a single CD. Anyone remember this? 😎
I feel like a massive thing you lack to talk about is fightcade. But I feel I get it cause it would feel bloated but adding rollback netcode was huge to retro games. There was also 0 ruling by a court and the nintendo suing yuzu did not change the law. It never went to court. It was settled out of court.
I love your video! You did a great job!
Only one small thing, Terramigms was released in Great Britain.
Excellent video 👍 you got yourself a new sub.
Incredible video. Been emulating for decades and learned a lot.
I was a Patreon supporter for Yuzu from day one, and I don't regret it one bit. Looking forward to doing the same for Switch 2!
This is the best documentary I've ever seen on emulation.
Awesome content as always.
The first big revolution was NESTicle but most of that Genecyst from the same developers. In 1997 you were suddenly able to play 4MB particularly good graphics games from the Genesis in VGA 320x200 on a Pentium PC. At the same time, the only good platform games on PC we had so far were Jazz Jackrabbit and Prehistorik. The Street Fighter or Sonic official ports on DOS/Windows were awful and required 40MB! So Genecyst was a revolution to let us access 500+ games fluid and with good graphics on the PC at that time.
I love the name NESTicle
They had a good sense of humor
Super Gameboy wasn't "emulation". It was the actual Gameboy hardware inside the cardtridge.
I actually saw someone transplant a SGB processor into a DMG, and it worked. The cartridge is just an adapter that converts the video output into a format the SNES can understand, and the audio is probably just sent through the analog audio pins.
Like your videos a lot. Can you do a documentary on the Nintendo GameCube? Would be amazing. It has a pretty controversial history when it was in development (codename Dolphin). Have a nice day.
Games older than 20 years should be free, period!
Excellent video!
shutting down emulation is like burning books
you're killing history
Since we're on the topic, I never got to play final fantasy 7 as a kid.
I recently started playing it on a ps1 emulator and then also gave it a shot on the switch port.
My question is this
Is it abnormal to be able to move around during combat ?
(very small area you can move around in)
It only works on the ps1 emu.
I can't dodge/run on the switch version during combat though.
None of my friends remember being able to do that.
Nesticle is my first emulator and that logo is a legend.
Great video, your channel is totally underrated.
Thank you for a very informative and entertaining vid-docu.I myself absolutely love emulation,for many reasons ,no.1 is of course cost,if i had the relevant consoles that i emulate,plus all the games,it would take up considerable space,and money.Not to mention,the exceptional quality improvement in emu in the last 5years.I actually worked out the cost,if i had bought the consoles and games that i have on my pc,all in all the cost was close to £50,000.Without emulation ,the gaming market would suffer
ON SUPORTE !
trop bien t'es vidéo Sakharu !
You've earned yourself a sub this was a very entertaining video I didn't get bored of even once which is impressive at this length.
05:42 brilliant name for a NES emulator. Well done sir.
I don't have to watch the video to know which one you're referring to.
This video is what people have been waiting for, honestly a video covering the history of emulation and the question that always have beared over it. Thank you!
Major major flaw.... The was no court ruling in the yuzu cast. Is was an out of court settlement... That a huge difference. No one knows how a court would have ruled....
Would've been bad to find out
No ruling but a final judgement and a permanent injunction that already sided with Nintendo, according to the lawyers that I contacted, it's more than enough to question the legality of emulation AGAIN even after the Connectix vs Sony case because it doesn't cover the same area
Pushing the algorithm. Have a nice day
You are the legend of Video Game Docs @sakharubaguette! What is your next video coming up!?
Great video
Emulation opinions are the Gray Mane or Battleborn of gaming discussions I have noticed.
The problem are copyright laws. They are there to protect the investment made in development, keeping people from just copying your hard earned development. They are not there to give you exclusive monopoly for 75 years. The idea of market competition encourages advancement doesn’t work if copyright owners can just sit on their former wares, not forced to keep competing. Their universal application does not work. A piece of music has qualities in it that make the work more relevant and competitive still today whereas a video game from the 70’s is generationally not in the same ballpark. A junior high school student could code a 70’s video game in a school project, but you still need to be a master musician to write a high quality pop song. Music deserves a longer protection period because competition will not be held back. Nintendo’s lawyers are actively monopolizing their old IP over competing in a new market, sitting on former work and creating friction in the market. That is not what government regulation is there to do. There should be a point where a royalty is the only form of protection from someone “copying” your exact work (therefore you can’t take a video game character and put them in a totally different game, as that should not be allowed with IP). The software association should work on this, as the big guys should be working on maintaining the integrity of their IP, not putting all these barriers and friction to market essentially obsolete tech,
Your videos deserve millions of views. Please don't stop making those
I never got nitified of this video and it never showed up in my recommendations even though I've been subscribed since you first video. Instead I was recommended a different video of yours I've already watched so i clicked your channel. I think UA-cam is stopping you video from sending notifications and recommending it because it doesn't condem emulation
Good job bread man. :)
In my opinion, the problem is that people started emulating games back when you could still find games and they were affordable.
Obviously, people did this because they wanted to play as many games as possible with paying the lowest amount. But from my perspective, now that created what we have which is none of the big companies ended up re-releasing games for older systems, and now it's impossible to find them at reasonable prices.
And now, even people who don't want to have to do anything in a legal grey area in order to play the games that they want to play have to participate in that.
Or spend a lot of time searching for big priced games. And not just games to put on the shelf.
This is some of the best content on UA-cam. The PS2 documentry the best I have ever seen. I hope this channel blows up and gets the success it deserves.
Great video! I'll check it your channel out now
Nesticle was such a fun emulator to use. Emulation is important for gaming, as it preserves gaming.
I have a few emulators on my pc. Great to get a detailed history about emulators
I remember the first time I saw a game emulator, it was back in 1996 where my brother used one to play Pokémon right when it first came out.
Bleem...wow...ca ne me rajeunit pas 😂,et merci et bravo pour cette video
This was good 🎉🎉
If not for emulation I would probably have never played Chrono Trigger, one of the greatest RPGs of all time.
Emulation allows us to ha e access to all the old school games that I get up playing o. The NES. These guys deserve some respect
12:56 Sony claims the emulator outputs poor graphics, and could harm their business. 15:06 Sony cries because the emulator makes their games look TOO good.
22:08 Back when XFire Messenger was around, it had the ability to detect what game you were playing, what server you were on if the game had those, and track play time(this was before Steam could do that, and before Steam was even any good). I had to fight to get emulators added to the tracking list because most people who used XFire(even the developers) claimed that emulation was piracy. However, I made a post about piracy was the problem of the user, not the emulation developer. Citing several sources that proved that emulation was legal, including the two court cases that Sony had been involved in. Emulators became trackable in XFire within the week. Probably my only claim to fame, and no one today will ever know as XFire has been dead quite some time now.
26:01 It gets better. Second generation PS3 consoles moved to software emulation for their PS2 backwards compatibility. Rather than including the full guts of a PS2 like in the first generation. Third generation dropped PS2 completely in favor of the PS2 classics(buy it again, you plebs!).
47:07 It should be noted that Dolphin was removed from Steam because the Steam version of the emulator included the Nintendo BIOS files required to run the Wii and GameCube.
49:27 As of this video: RetroArch(supports all consoles it does on PC), PPSSPP(PSP), Gamma(PS1) and Delta(NES, SNES, N64, GB, GBC, GBA and DS).
one of the best gaming channels on youtube. your excellent writing with the professional narration and tons of relevant interesting clips is a really great combo
This topic always makes me feel so nostalgic, cause it was in 1999 when i had my own 1st PC and months later found the world of emulation through friends, was about that time that Pokemon games appeared in GBC, i didn't had a GB so a friend helped me install "Rew", which was a GBC emulator that ran well back then and the Pokemon Red and Blue and Yellow sometime later, Zsnes emu was also great for running SNES on low spec PCs, i used that one a lot, also Genesis emus like Genecyst and Kgen98 in the past, do you also remember the Emurayden Emulator which was the successor of Connectix Virtual Game Station? that one caught many by surprise and ran pretty well😄
It seems like Sony created the huge sales of the emulator.
Any publicity is good publicity
I remember running roms thru nesticle on my brother's tower back in the late 90s. Thought it was like the most advanced thing ever