This Proxy Strategy Is BRILLIANT - Protoss Cheese to GM #3

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  • @Gilvad0
    @Gilvad0 9 місяців тому +68

    Dude, your challenge to grandmaster videos are a unique entertainment product that I tried and failed to find a replacement for while they were gone. I'm so glad they're back, they're just such a wonderful combination of fun individual games plus an ongoing storyline as you challenge different races at different ratings, all tied together with an incredibly entertaining personality.

    • @WhatsY0UTUB3
      @WhatsY0UTUB3 9 місяців тому +1

      beastyqt has a ton of them from years ago. mana does them now too

  • @wijn1008
    @wijn1008 9 місяців тому +25

    the battery void ray cheese was brutal

  • @aerob1033
    @aerob1033 9 місяців тому +83

    The channel feels like it has morphed from "weird Terran builds" into "weird cheese builds", and I am *there for it*

    • @tkunzy3707
      @tkunzy3707 9 місяців тому +2

      As someone who mostly only plays terran and only really watches Terran UA-camrs. I'm for it too. Mark obviously became my favorite content creator and he is making me want to play protoss now.

    • @Szokynyovics
      @Szokynyovics 9 місяців тому +2

      Just... whatever he does is weird and it is always incredibly entertaining.

    • @omegaslast
      @omegaslast 9 місяців тому

      With the new patch i hope we get away from cheese ASAP. The fun part of watching X unit to GM was that therm had to learn the weaknesses of the unit compositions in the 4000MMR range and then the fun part was seeing how far he could get in MMR once he mastered the builds for the unit comps. Ghost to GM was brilliant because he could actually lose games to 4000MMR players as he was still tweaking the build order heavily every game.
      "Cheese" to GM makes no sense to me personally, its literally following build orders with any unit possible.

    • @Unmustache1
      @Unmustache1 9 місяців тому

      @@omegaslastThat’s fair enough, though I think it’s just a chill, fun series that delves deeper into the crazy builds that uThermal knows.

  • @malekiththeeternityking5433
    @malekiththeeternityking5433 9 місяців тому +81

    It's really weird to see Thermy playing Toss, but it's a pleasant surprise

  • @daka6887
    @daka6887 9 місяців тому +18

    I've never even played Starcraft, but your games look so fun and your commentary is unmatched, so entertaining and in depth

  • @brendansavage3501
    @brendansavage3501 9 місяців тому +8

    If Marc ever is feeling really dastardly, I’d love to see some kind of Random to GM challenge

  • @StevenHanover
    @StevenHanover 9 місяців тому +10

    Just a protoss lad would never try to trick their zerg friends

  • @Irisfantasies
    @Irisfantasies 9 місяців тому +26

    Marc is turning into a professional cheese maker

  • @3xtraBrown
    @3xtraBrown 9 місяців тому +6

    I've been using yt since basically it's inception and have never subscribed to a channel... until this one. It's the only channel that i actually want to get notified of releases for and skew my algo heavily towards. Your content is just so fun and your energy is contagious. Keep being awesome!

  • @j0a3k
    @j0a3k 9 місяців тому +6

    The mutas were the nail in the coffin on the last game I think. He just had no answers to the phoenixes which allowed the void rays to do the damage.

  • @Hazelthenerd
    @Hazelthenerd 9 місяців тому +20

    Making starcraft fun again

  • @etean
    @etean 9 місяців тому +4

    I really enjoy your upbeat attitude and enthusiasm.

  • @astrafaan
    @astrafaan 9 місяців тому +2

    Before I first saw Uthermal I had no idea of my propensity toward enjoying watching people being tortured 😁. Keep the good work up!

  • @Nil-js4bf
    @Nil-js4bf 9 місяців тому +1

    Had a good chuckle seeing that 12 gate vr all in vs terran. Gave me good memories of the 5 minute oracle timing off a 12 gate back in HoTS. I would have played Toss main if all my opponents were Terran :D

  • @Alorand
    @Alorand 9 місяців тому +10

    As someone who doesn't play and doesn't know the "standard" meta, I would actually love to see even just one day a month when uThermal doesn't cheese and just shows us how strong his regular play is as each faction.

    • @WhatsY0UTUB3
      @WhatsY0UTUB3 9 місяців тому

      just watching a gm dunk on diamonds with standard play? lol very fun

    • @Alorand
      @Alorand 9 місяців тому +2

      @@WhatsY0UTUB3 Maybe he could do it on that one account that got ranked as top 10 GM?

  • @jonathanhessen5651
    @jonathanhessen5651 9 місяців тому +5

    Top gaming man. Ik kijk bijna elke dag! Keep it up 👍🏻

  • @Jousef9
    @Jousef9 9 місяців тому

    One of the few youtubers that highlights how fun this game can be

  • @Batmane812
    @Batmane812 9 місяців тому

    "because you guys know I like my crazy builds every now and then." BRO YOU PLANETARY RUSHED 3 TIMES IN HOMESTORY CUP XD. Dude is a legend

  • @wolvie90
    @wolvie90 9 місяців тому

    That double proxy Void Ray game looked like Marc tried to replicate a Silver leaguers build.

  • @mbag012
    @mbag012 9 місяців тому +1

    Man, i don't know why but your games are just on a higher level of entertainment.

  • @user-mv2nn6rw2w
    @user-mv2nn6rw2w 9 місяців тому

    PvZ cheese build suggestion: nexus before core, 2 gas in main, 1 adept, stargate, phoenix, twilight, get up to 8 gates, chrono charge, stop probes at ~40 (going over 36 a bit is good), stop gas mining at 100 gas, proxy 2 gates for warp in (for a total of 10 gates), and attack with your first warp in after the gates finish.
    Another version is going 2 phoenix + get a third nexus that you don't probe. Unless you let in an ovie they'll never suspect it's a 2 base all in, because no one makes 2 phoenix when doing these all ins.

  • @Starcruiser81
    @Starcruiser81 9 місяців тому

    Banger episode!

  • @Kaefer1973
    @Kaefer1973 9 місяців тому +1

    I don't even play Protoss, but I'm still deadly afraid this will start another decade of mindless "void ray is imba" honking from the skill freed.

  • @emanuelubierna8361
    @emanuelubierna8361 9 місяців тому

    Hi Marc what is your mic brand sounds pretty clear!

  • @penguinquestionmark1704
    @penguinquestionmark1704 9 місяців тому

    awesome last game lmao! sick strategy xD

  • @adamtennant4936
    @adamtennant4936 9 місяців тому +1

    Love some Voidray action!

  • @QuadraticAdam
    @QuadraticAdam 9 місяців тому

    Thank-you for giving a shout-out to Genius! He was one of my fav SCII players from back in the day.
    Of course, you've got that crown now. :D

  • @admiralmurphy1543
    @admiralmurphy1543 9 місяців тому +1

    That Zerg should have probably spent a bunch on spores since he was floating 2k, maybe that would have protected his AA units well enough.

    • @markcornish6393
      @markcornish6393 9 місяців тому

      maybe he would have if he knew there was 4 void rays coming for him

    • @admiralmurphy1543
      @admiralmurphy1543 9 місяців тому

      @@markcornish6393 he did though,they showed up at his third and he spent no of the 2 thousand minerals he was floating

  • @dustinseth9520
    @dustinseth9520 9 місяців тому

    "4 voidrays at 5 minutes? eh, I don't know."
    *wins easily*

  • @Protoss-man
    @Protoss-man 9 місяців тому

    I love your cheeses if i try it i just get stomped on but sometimes it works.

  • @mriconoclast13
    @mriconoclast13 9 місяців тому

    The Void Ray rush against Terran was one of the grossest things I have ever seen... in a good way.

  • @ahppa
    @ahppa 9 місяців тому +1

    Another video suggesting "reverse tea bagging" where you pick up with phoenixes and drop on disruptor balls

  • @PashaSlavaUkraine
    @PashaSlavaUkraine 9 місяців тому

    Uthermal stay changing the “standard” builds. 🙌 go uthermal

  • @Terracronz
    @Terracronz 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the proxy voidray ptsd

  • @NativeNewMexican
    @NativeNewMexican 9 місяців тому

    Would the 2 stargate rush vs. zerg at the end work against pros?

  • @john80944
    @john80944 9 місяців тому

    I really want Marc to cultivate some SC2 AI bots of himself, so that we can see his Toss or Zerg going against his Terran. That would be chaotic fun!

  • @user-yf5tv8hi3e
    @user-yf5tv8hi3e 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm a simple man, I see Thermy cheese video, I click 👍

  • @MrGrandAdmiral
    @MrGrandAdmiral 9 місяців тому

    That Void cheese was the scariest shit i ve ever seen!!!

  • @AC3handle
    @AC3handle 9 місяців тому

    That last player...2000+ minerals...
    what was he even DOING?
    The only thing I can think is he was going to TRY and get to corruptors, but...

  • @ghoraxe9000
    @ghoraxe9000 9 місяців тому +1

    Double rush starport never works too well unless your willing to go nexus First.. you absolutely need the gas .. otherwise you're just too behind if it fails to outright win.

  • @filo090286
    @filo090286 9 місяців тому

    Damn i was trolled !!! NogyNova 🤣

  • @FlawlesSanshiro
    @FlawlesSanshiro 9 місяців тому

    the phoenix vs queen was amazing

  • @michaelotty
    @michaelotty 9 місяців тому +1

    When uThermal cancelled prismatic alignment, but isn't queen armoured?

  • @craig4811
    @craig4811 9 місяців тому

    Let's go!

  • @MarctheDarc
    @MarctheDarc 9 місяців тому

    How about a chargelot rush/timing attack against terran?
    Also, if you're doing the voidray+phoenix you should bring out a pair of phoenixes as the first thing, so while the voidrays build, they gain energy.

  • @abacabdk3490
    @abacabdk3490 9 місяців тому

    Brutal

  • @anotherplatypus
    @anotherplatypus 9 місяців тому

    Outta curiosity... how do you pronounce your name? In your Liquipedia page's trivia, it says you'd initially spelled your callsign 'μThermal'. So I wonder if it was "MuThermal" before you changed out the greek letter, or if it indicated a scientific unit like "Mirco Thermal" or something...

  • @StumbleBee13
    @StumbleBee13 9 місяців тому

    Ballsy Artosis pylon in game 2! :D ggwp

  • @radugeorge21
    @radugeorge21 9 місяців тому

    First match you applied WhiteRa's Special Tactics

  • @MrLincoln87
    @MrLincoln87 9 місяців тому

    OMG!! That second one against the terran ....... dude did you go straight to the shower afterwards? It was so dirty

  • @richardursua7332
    @richardursua7332 9 місяців тому

    Best Cheeser in youtube

  • @falknfurter
    @falknfurter 9 місяців тому +1

    The cheeses look really weird and almost look like they shouldn't succeed. But they do. I'd love to see seom ad hoc comments what the opponent could have done differently.

  • @BobertJoe
    @BobertJoe 9 місяців тому

    I ran into somebody who tried this proxy against me today. Managed to counter it just in time and won.

  • @stefan.jokanovic
    @stefan.jokanovic 9 місяців тому

    Awesome games 🎮 👏 👌

  • @badpf8705
    @badpf8705 9 місяців тому

    Here's an idea: get some sentries to the opponents natural or main and forcefield the mineral mine(s)

  • @brianyang8196
    @brianyang8196 9 місяців тому +1

    You menace

  • @PolafTCG
    @PolafTCG 9 місяців тому

    king thermy does it again

  • @Foggen
    @Foggen 9 місяців тому

    I love Void Rays, they just speak to me for some reason. I think it's why I like Symmetra so much in Overwatch...

  • @Deadly_Pulsar-.
    @Deadly_Pulsar-. 9 місяців тому

    Yes! Muh ha ha ha ha!
    Phoenix's Rule!

  • @aljoker7808
    @aljoker7808 9 місяців тому

    Just in time

  • @wlav8887
    @wlav8887 9 місяців тому

    I feel like Thermy and Beastyqt would be such an epic team in Archons

  • @CamiloCBG
    @CamiloCBG 9 місяців тому

    It's sad that the last zerg opponent could've made 39 spores with his minerals, but it's easy to say that when you're not under pressure.

  • @chasewinkler4679
    @chasewinkler4679 9 місяців тому

    Let's go

  • @michaelswain868
    @michaelswain868 9 місяців тому

    Uthermal I think I know you a little bit... and I wouldn't want to get weirdly parasocial but far from "like crazy builds now and then" I'd say you use content creation and independent employment as an opportunity to as much as possible play non stop crazy shit.... Even when you were a pro you did off the wall stuff, loved the early game interactions of units and did timing attacks... The Uthermal 53 different types of cheese is just you tuning out of being a pro to wear a pair of sweatpants and play the game the way you love to play it.... Which is super fucking cheesy and off the wall.

  • @tjfirhfjejUTH24
    @tjfirhfjejUTH24 9 місяців тому

    Yes

  • @michaelswain868
    @michaelswain868 9 місяців тому

    I was watching your void ray cheese and just thinking.... 6 phoenix and adepts is probably the play...

  • @jesper8185
    @jesper8185 9 місяців тому

    Play as Zerg and win using another faction's units via Infestor worker steal.

  • @adrianrdominguez
    @adrianrdominguez 9 місяців тому

    plz do a skytoss to gm series :)

  • @samuraichilton
    @samuraichilton 9 місяців тому

    Might not be the best SC2 on the Net, but it's the best SC2 on the Net.

  • @tigrankato
    @tigrankato 9 місяців тому

    Lets do 2 proxy gates into mass zealots 😅 Naniwa style

  • @cauchyschwarz3295
    @cauchyschwarz3295 9 місяців тому

    I neeeed a marauder+x to grandmaster series

  • @hoofhearted4
    @hoofhearted4 9 місяців тому

    i kinda wish he had a cam on his hands lol.

  • @gingeral253
    @gingeral253 9 місяців тому

    He was a Protoss main?

  • @auckwads8169
    @auckwads8169 9 місяців тому

    Yeah that void ray biuld is nasty and i still dont get why protoss dont have to make a robo to unlock stargate ?? Terren could counter of they could skip factory but nooo protss air is tier 2 not tier 3

  • @ryanwilson5842
    @ryanwilson5842 9 місяців тому

    IM pretty sure the 2nd game, the guy was a bot... lmfao . spawns a mule after losing all of his scvs as a last ditch effort to mine some extra minerals :p

  • @northtes6176
    @northtes6176 9 місяців тому

    That game 2 voidray proxy was abusive

  • @elliejohnson2786
    @elliejohnson2786 9 місяців тому

    "You can make your hatchery at 300 minerals instead of 400"
    ...but don't hatcheries cost 300 anyway?

  • @Talentaire
    @Talentaire 9 місяців тому

    The second game is watchmaking.

  • @IOADESTOYER
    @IOADESTOYER 9 місяців тому

    At this point anything besides a straight up fight is considered cheese. So ironic that, different strategies in a real time strategy game is called cheese now a days.

    • @IOADESTOYER
      @IOADESTOYER 9 місяців тому

      @@phasor50 blocking/ controlling your enemy’s movements been one of the oldest strategies.

    • @phasor50
      @phasor50 9 місяців тому

      c'mon, having those batteries on the low ground outside the enemy base is pretty damn awesome 😆

  • @d.h.1794
    @d.h.1794 9 місяців тому

    :)

  • @alk672
    @alk672 9 місяців тому

    That void ray rush is basically why I stopped playing. I thought I would reach masters and be able to hold stupid crap like this, but once I have not much has changed. Protoss just needs to build voids and shield batteries off of 1 base, no skill or thought required, and then terran must scout it, know precisely what to do, and execute near-perfectly. It's just not fun to know that your opponent won with no effort.

  • @adamkiszka7805
    @adamkiszka7805 9 місяців тому

    I know Thermy is no gm with toss, or maybe he is, i really don't know, but seeing him play against diamonds just seems wrong

  • @topshothotshot666
    @topshothotshot666 9 місяців тому

    Brilliant?

  • @LightThePrince
    @LightThePrince 9 місяців тому

    Don’t copy this too much ahaha

  • @endersblade
    @endersblade 9 місяців тому

    I hate barcode players. They get what they deserve.

  • @qontodemigo2461
    @qontodemigo2461 9 місяців тому

    I watched this match to game #2 but Protoss is such a boring race I couldn’t even handle game 3. Please stop. Protoss is just such a bullshit race. Your skilll will obviously win. But it’s much more interesting to watch your Zerg or Terran. I have always disliked Protoss at high level.

  • @balazsfenyes3880
    @balazsfenyes3880 9 місяців тому +1

    I still find it less and less entertaining that a top10 GM expro smurfs against diamonds. Even with his positive attitude it's just cheap and dirty smurfing.

    • @adlex1212
      @adlex1212 9 місяців тому +1

      I play chess and when actual grandmasters do speedrun games their opponents get their points back if they lose. I wonder if this is the case here. If not, its pretty shady.

    • @Unmustache1
      @Unmustache1 9 місяців тому

      Issue is, how do you make challenge runs if you start off at a super high league?

    • @balazsfenyes3880
      @balazsfenyes3880 9 місяців тому

      @@Unmustache1every pro/expro does that, like the Cowboy/Harstem. But it's really unethical, ofc it's entertaining on one side but hopeless and frustrating on the other. You dont learn from a game with a pro 3k above your MMR. I like when he plays against grandmasters.

    • @Unmustache1
      @Unmustache1 9 місяців тому

      @@balazsfenyes3880 That’s fair, but he can’t do the same thing over and over like that, as content needs variety. He does end up playing against GMs during his ___ to GM series, which is why it can get so entertaining when the strategies have been solidified.
      I understand its smurfing, and sure it can definitely be unfair. But if it’s his income on the line, I’d definitely rather uThermal keep smurfing.

  • @vargad3919
    @vargad3919 9 місяців тому +2

    Too one-sided. Should make the challenges more "challenging" but not play against 4k MMR opponents. Maybe start at 4.7k MMR or higher.
    This just feels like beating weaker opponents and asks for opponents of your own level.

  • @ChPetru
    @ChPetru 9 місяців тому +3

    I enjoyed your games until I realized you're a PRO gamer smurfing against diamond casuals. Play against your actual MMR else it's cringe.

    • @bogdanm8914
      @bogdanm8914 9 місяців тому +3

      you have to get through them to reach gm.

    • @marcelturgeon3164
      @marcelturgeon3164 9 місяців тому +6

      It's literally called cheese to GM, do you expect pros to just start in GM status. Enjoy the commentary and silly builds, stop being so critical.

    • @malekiththeeternityking5433
      @malekiththeeternityking5433 9 місяців тому +4

      He retired from pro SC2 a while ago.
      He just makes meme lists to GM series which means he either starts vs Platinums or Diamonds, don't be a sbowflake

    • @Royz061
      @Royz061 9 місяців тому

      the title is "cheese to GM" do you have common sense? if he starts in high rank it will be "cheese in GM" mygod low iq

    • @Helyzz82
      @Helyzz82 9 місяців тому +4

      He is literally showing and explaining what he is doing, explaining the weak points, how to fight against it and teaching people and attracting people to the game. If you think it is your right to be a lazy ass yet think you can earn any rank, go play single player.