Should You Count Cards?
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Taking millions out of casinos, playing next to professional athletes, and building active investments while always seeking the next challenge. Colin Jones, founder of Blackjack Apprenticeship and The Church Team (who took over 3 million dollars from casinos) shares a few reasons why he chose to become a professional card counter.
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"Money won is twice as sweet as money earned" - Paul Newman
I really feel like it's the opposite.
I was winning at HS lunch hour playing pennies nickels dimes and quarters. It felt twice as sweet than sitting in casinos. LOL I was card counting before I knew there was card counting. I was definitely a nerd. I don’t think I ever hear kids doing that in HS. they rather play video games or something
We must pull players off of continuous shuffled games and 6-5 blackjack games by educating them even at the tables. I do this when I’m in a casino. The only way these games will disappear is when those tables are empty and making $0 for the casino. We players are all playing on the player side of the table. We need to help each other out. I’ve taken more money out of casinos by doing this than by actually playing perfect blackjack.
That Rubics cube story is so relatable. I'm a speedcuber myself and went to college in faculty of math
These are all of my exact reasons, especially the points about the mental challenge and the stories.
Outside of number one, number 3 is my favorite on your list! Thanks again Colin! Always making quality videos with important information!
Thank you Colin, another great video
Counting cards was good for awhile, and I managed to accumulate a decent mid 5 figure amount in savings after 6 years, but it was such a huge hassle. Over 50 casinos later, I have to focus on other priorities right now.
How u do it?
Just ordered my book and looking forward to it. Thanks
Casino's in the UK have card shuffling machines, which prevents card counting, Surprised US doesn't use them ?
Colin be flexin them biceps! Grinding out this 11-7 to get a reasonable bankroll to get my "gamble" on. Appreciate your videos bro!
shift work
Thanks for the upload! I would love for you to make videos going more in depth about things, most of which you have already made a video on. Answering viewer questions would be great also but I know most comments on YT don’t even deserve a response ;)
I’m ok with the 9 to 5. It gives me structure but I still need excitement like everyone 😂
I played at Caesar’s this week and was up a few thousand over 3-4 hours and the dealer and pit boss kept saying “Go all in. We want to see you go all in.” Ha. Not a chance.
Not a chance. Positive count doesn’t guarantee a winning hand.
Sheldon Cooper I guess you don’t know what “all in” means. By definition, you can’t bet everything you have and remain capitalized enough. My point was that the casino was verbally pushing me to over bet my bankroll.
Thanks man!
That's funny. I've been watching your videos for a while now thinking that speed solvers (Rubik's cube) would also be really good at counting cards. I got into speed solving for a bit. Very similar skill set in my opinion.
Don’t forget it’s a game you can also learn as just entertainment. You don’t have to make it a career you can simply do it to have fun when friends are in town or people want to do a casino trip.
It’s time I start this new adventure..
Some pretty good reasons
Hello Colin. I am really interested in starting a BJA membership but I am not sure what plan to pick. I am from Canada and was just wondering if the 411 included Canadian casinos. I still have a lot of training that I need to do before I actually take my game to the casino but with the help of BJA I am sure I can get there much quicker than on my own. Thanks for taking the time
I was enamored with card counting through the movie 21. I tried when I turned 21. Have lost when I tried it because I lose the count easily. 😓 It went too fast. So I gave up. I do have a passion for cooking, and I'm a pastry cook. At least I was before Covid 19.
Recently I found a blackjack counting trainer online and do that for play money in my free time. I already enjoy doing sudoku and logic grids, so this is just something else I do. Would you recommend card counting for someone like me to supplement income?
Hi! I love your channel and it has been giving me so much usefull information. However, I was wondering if it’s still worth playing if the rule that a tie on 17-19 not equals a push still makes it worth playing in the long term?
NO! That sounds like an awful game.
Is the membership fully accessable on mobile?
Thnx for another great video! I do have another, geographic issue I would like to have your/anyone's opinion on. I started counting and bought the BA app, but then I did some research for casinos in Europe (where I live at). I found out that almost every casino in Europe is using CSMs with insanely bad rules including my big touristic city. The average house edge is a whopping 0.62%. I will continue counting because I like the fun of it, but the fun gets way less knowing I won't be able to bring any casino down over here. Any advice or tips to still keep going or would you consider this a waste of time?
0.62% is still beatable if there is no continuous shuffle machine. If you want to actually count cards in casinos, you are going to have to travel. If that is not something you are able or willing to do, then card counting is probably not for you. You can do it for fun if you like but other than that, if you cannot actually use it, it is probably not worth your time.
I am made for Card counting! :D
Literally did exactly the same with Rubix cube!!
How do i join a group so i have spotters and fun and meet like mind friends.
I either want to be an AP to get a bankroll for day trading or vice versa
Both are gambling, still trying to determine which should be a path to which.
What do you think about card counting online, when the casinos cut the decks after half shoe?
Do you still think card counting would give us an edge, or they have that covered?!?!?
Any casino that shuffles after half the cards are dealt or uses a continuous shuffle machine kills card counting. You need 75% of the cards to be dealt in order for the game to be beatable.
Do blackjack apps help card counting?
I've literally gone into casinos with $150-$300 bet the table minimum, got down to $50, then won all my money back plus an extra $100-$200. Not by card-counting but just playing. It would be kinda cool to learn though but these casinos use multiple decks and too many tables to keep track. So idk. Lol
Been a BJA youtube subscriber for quite some time now, and I'm in search of a video from you guys having to do with how to convince family/friends/significant others that it is, in fact, an investment and not the same thing as gambling.
How to get around comments from them like, "Even if you had a 50/50 chance of winning money vs. losing ... you have a 100% chance of earning money by working a normal job." hahaha help
Get a job man. Get some paychecks, save money, establish a bankroll for gambling. Grow that bankroll with strategy. Being a subscriber to this channel doesn’t make you a pro and correct me if I’m wrong but you’re probably not good enough for this to be your full time job
I only have 1 casino semi near it's not even that close should I be trying this or not. Already know how to count n basic strategy n bet strat deviations missing and basic strategy not perfected like ace7, or 12 vs 13
Hey, I'm about as novice as it gets when it comes to table games. The chart on the site has a lot of "double if able"
What table rules would prevent me from doubling? Specific phrasing that casinos use would be great, followed by an explanation of the phrasing, (if it's not self explanatory) would also be appreciated.
Michael Parham literally if you’re not able it means it’ll overdraft your bankroll
Some tables will only let you double 9, 10, and Aces. Also, if you have a two card 10 against a 5(as an example) you would double. But if you only got to ten after hitting your first two cards (like a 4 and a 2 for example) and now have ten with three cards then you can't double, you can only hit
I've lost 20k in the last 5 months :(. I'm determined to get it back! That's why I'm learning to count now.
Jeremy Q don’t worry. I’ve lost 70k
@Roulette & Blackjack -Secrets finally revealed not blind just poor bank roll management and betting max at the wrong times.. plus not being perfect at basic strategy and a drunk birthday night that cost me half my losings...
damn and im stressing over the 700 i lost
@@alejandroperez6032 were you counting cards
I’m down 100k in the same boat my friend
Hey Colin, I was curious and I have watched many other videos you posted. When you play, do you only wong in?
The other day I went to the casino at an empty table and the dealer had 19-21 almost every time! Variance lol
How can I sign up to be taught to card count I need this in my life please
Can you do a review of “Never split 10’s” UA-cam BJ videos... he posts videos showing how to “win” regularly playing BJ... and presents himself as a professional BJ player... would love to know your thoughts!!!! Much love from Chicago!
I’ve only been learning for a week and even I pick up on basic strategy errors on the channel.
He sucks. His videos are obnoxious. We don't see the decks get shuffled and they are clearly setup shoes for the video
As others have said, he never shows the decks being shuffled. Feels set up
The best way to hurt casinos is to go in and educate players playing 6-5 blackjack and continuously shuffled games and pull them off those games. That cuts into the casino profits from those horrible games. It will hurt the casinos more than sitting at a table counting cards.
That tasty freedom!
Just think of how much money you could cost greedy casinos by educating players, especially those who are actually playing mathematically unfriendly blackjack. It feels good to see players pick up their chips and cash out rather than losing them.
Collin how do i deal with tables that uses 8 decks and has a 20%-30% penetration?
Run CVCX with the rules, deck penetration, and your bet spread to figure out if you can beat it at a reasonable risk of ruin.
I have written a blackjack simulation program and thoroughly tested this. For reasonable chance of card counting to be profitable in the long run , need at least 70% to 75% penetration . And the simulation is perfect, never makes mistakes like human . Casinos near me do 50% cut exactly, tested that a lot too, house always won with that cut. Any other claim or strategy about this is hot air, ignore.
Collin plz reply, do u work a real part time/casual job outside playing blackjack??
I'm guessing not. He's made a lot of money card counting. He probably invests some of it and he makes money off of these videos and his programs.
But he's said you can still be successful counting part time
Colin. Do you have time for a chat?
If you started you had a big bankroll to be able to play high stake in the first year.
Me being 16 waiting until i Finally turn 18…
enjoy being 16 while your still young...
i just look at the cards that come out and make bigger bets when i c a lot of smalls come out i win a lot much more than i lose i get all the perks i keep from looking like a cc or a greedy player i do the play 3 shoos hit and run cash about 2 to 5 dimes move on cc to much work and in the long run lots of trouble and just as much winning and losing just my opinion
People think you're gonna count cards and get rich right away. They don't understand what a grind it is. You're not going there to have fun anymore i gave up went back to just gambling. I would have fourteen hours sessions betting table minimum before I had a good count
How long is the long run in card Counting?
The long run is about 100-200 hours if you play perfect basic strategy and card counting... most people are well in the positive by then
I'm new to black jack (like 4weeks new), and so far I've been coming out ahead. The couple of issues I see with version of counting cards is.......
#1 my casino has a version of blackjack, in which you don't see the other players hands, until the last second and that gives you maybe 10 seconds to count cards at best, before the dealer starts collecting the cards.
And
#2 not only does a player cut the deck (4 deck play), the dealer does as well with a yellow card. So as soon as the dealer reaches that yellow card, they play out what's on the table, then they reshuffle. Which means you never get to play out the 4 decks.
Does anyone know anything about those version of black jack at my casino?? And how it effects card counting?
Sounds like a normal face-down game. You need to have perfect counting skills, regardless of how they deal it. And all games cut off some amount of cards. watch the video on deck penetration.
Mr Jones,
I hope to shake your hand someday.
Help me please. I want that life so bad. I have built my bankroll from playing poker but it’s a grind. I want to burn the house down so bad.
What if I suck at math but enjoy it?
I'm only 12 but I still learned just to beat my family
Keep it up kid. Those skills will pay off
What do you think about neversplit10's channel???, Do u recommend it???
In my opinion, it is good for entertainment but not good for learning. He does not play basic strategy perfectly and he does not know how to count cards.
@@GaryLuKOTH I think he is uncle he needs to relax from bj
He doesn’t play at a real casino and stacks the shoe to know when to bet. His channel is just entertainment
Heck yeahhh why not beat the house
I’m surprised some casinos haven’t put hits out on you haha
For every card counter there’s 10000 compulsive gamblers trying to be one, the casino needs this propaganda to keep losing players. Collin is not a scammer, card counting is real! But compulsive gamblers really can’t do it and that’s who the casinos want. Card counting is the reason blackjack became the most popular game
Should change the basic stragedy if true count is negative f instance if i have 16 dealer has 6 true count is negative 6 shuld i stay or hit? Thank you.
you will always stand against a dealer 6 with a 16... you shouldn't be playing through a count that negative in the first place. my first rule of thumb is to sit out a few hands as soon as the TC drops below -1, if it continues to drop, i leave and find another table.
can your apprenticeship help me make enough to pay college tuition fees?
the only math in this game is probability, and basic aritmetic.
not for me for sure. what a grind. OMG imagine sitting 1 hour counting cards. fucking boring omg. now imagine doing it for 5000 hours :| no way lol tkx I will keep managing my business. it's more profitable than 300$ anyway. but good that some people like it. really enjoy the videos and learning it. it's fun but I mean, more than half a hour doing over and over the same thing no way it's for me lol
tbh I find it hard that is for most people. only very few people would actually enjoy it. I admire those people. impressive. nice videos
I want to join the holy rollers.. just give me a chance...
NEW video please : How to encourage parents to let you work, play Blackjack then going to unversity and working shitty work after it
Professional blackjack would not be for me. I live too far from casino country, so it's only a recreational hobby. Most games aren't that good anyway. Some down to 65% penetration, no-mid shoe entry or no resplits etc.. Can't wong in. A total waste of time...some of these games.
Making a couple hundred dollars per hour depends on a few variables. Please don't think as you sit down you'll make a few hundred dollars per hour..
If you enjoy keeping your fingers, card counting might not be for you
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I really hate your music at the beginning of your videos but I like the content of the videos.
I like how short it is. Right to the point, no bs. Great job on that aspect of your internet presentation. I would not be surprised if you consulted a professional on this, it's that effective!
card counting can't be a thing anymore. Why ? cause every single casino has something like 8 decks all mixed up.
Just learn to dived numbers 1 through 20 by 8 and memorize, simple! Then 7, 6, 5...., Then crack the result by half and you've progressed into half decks!
Even some of the 8 deckers are beatable as long as they go through enough of the 8 decks each shoe. It's definitely a longer grind, but still beatable. Though I personally don't play them often at the moment because I have so many 6-deck options available in the states I play in.
8 decks isn’t a problem. But furthermore, your assessment is false. Plenty of places deal 6 or 4 deck shoes, plenty still deal double deck, sometimes they only offer double deck, there are also still places with 3 to 2 single deck and even some oddball 3 deck games.
I’m glad people think multiple deck shoes are not beatable. Keeps the games around longer!
@@woonchungliong4173 your one of those pissed off Asians stuck working at the casino huh lmao
Lol
Second
Too much of selling.. You wont do this if u can make money from Casino !!
Short summary: if you have high IQ/autistic/engineer-brain, counting cards is for you!
hey I work at a cubical 😡 I'll be heading from my attorney lol jk
hahaha
I have to make 30thousand dollar in 3 days or I am dead 😥
Nikesh Poudel shit then
And?
He die he dead he gone
That's what happens when you get involved with drugs and dealers
Did you make the money? 😅
Literally did exactly the same with Rubix cube!!