You Weren't There - A History of Chicago Punk 1977 to 1984 | Full 2 Hour Documentary

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  • "You Weren't There- A History Of Chicago Punk 1977-1984" is a documentary that looks back on the impact that the Punk movement had on the Windy City. Though overlooked in the annals of Rock history (compared to media-centric Los Angeles, New York, and London), Chicago served as an important early supporter of this burgeoning and controversial scene.From what is now considered to be the first Punk dance club in America (La Mere Vipere), to proto-hardcore clubs (Oz, O'Banions), and All Ages DIY scene (Centro-Am Hall), Chicagoans made sure that there were outlets for the genre that was often blacklisted by the mainstream local live music scene. To make it happen, they had to endure harassment from the Police, City Hall, Neo-Nazis, and even the audience, as well as making uneasy alliances with the ever-present Chicago criminal underworld. It was a scene that could be at times violent and unsavory but always tempered with large doses of humor,art, and intelligence."You Weren't There" talks to the DJ's, musicians, promoters, artists, and fans who were pivotal in creating the Chicago Punk scene. The film also showcases classic archival footage of such great Chicago bands as Naked Raygun, the Effigies, Strike Under, Big Black, Articles Of Faith as well as lesser known greats Silver Abuse, the Mentally Ill, the Subverts,Negative Element, and many more.
    Stars: Steve Albini, Vic Bondi, Scotty Brown
    Licensed from Leomark Studios. All rights reserved
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 274

  • @Giselle62
    @Giselle62 10 днів тому +4

    Watched Punk doc yesterday; and AS i am watching this one about Chicago, i hear that Steve Albini passed away yesterday...the algorithm may have led me to watch this today. The music is excellent; especially love the description of the Punk scene first starting there before there was a "uniform"..

  • @workingtheworld68
    @workingtheworld68 6 місяців тому +7

    I'll never forget when TRIAD radio switched from hippie to punk overnight, summer of 77 as I recall.

  • @ffejneznarf
    @ffejneznarf 2 місяці тому +4

    I was too young for part of this but really hit the hardcore/pink scene from like ‘84-‘88. Saw every show you can imagine - Metro, Cubby Bear, Rusty Nail, Orbit, The Bank, Dreamerz, Avalon and who can forget The Exploited at Medusa’s. Wax Trax, The Alley, Oz Park, Yum Yum Donuts…man, those were fun times! I still have crates of all my lps and 45s and like every flyer from that era!

  • @ionutsfetcu4550
    @ionutsfetcu4550 4 місяці тому +8

    Punk Rock is the greatest gift to humanity.

  • @riccarrasquilla379
    @riccarrasquilla379 2 місяці тому

    thanks for the video

  • @SimplySuzyIL
    @SimplySuzyIL 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the smiles..great memories of my punk days 🤘🏼

  • @jojoheartspaypay
    @jojoheartspaypay 6 місяців тому +3

    Stuff like this is when UA-cam SHINES.
    Thank you!!!

  • @Republican-00769
    @Republican-00769 2 місяці тому +2

    *I was there.*
    Born in Chicago during the summer of '69.
    Yes I had a mohawk in the early 80s and I got insulted and beat up a lot.
    My favorite Chicago band was Naked _Raygun._ I also liked _Fang._

  • @frankvazquez5974
    @frankvazquez5974 6 місяців тому +7

    I missed this era, but grew up in the Chicago late 90's scene. Great town. Real people. Good times. I live in CA now, but miss the city. Not much pretense going on over there.

    • @donnix1192
      @donnix1192 5 місяців тому

      I remember going to shows, having shows, in the Chicagoland area scene in the late 90s. Bands like MIKE, M.y.o.p.i.a., Penny and the Loafers, Alkaline Trio, Hot Stove Jimmy, The Pillagers, Plain White Tees, the Seventies etc

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      I've been listening to punk since I was twelve. I'm almost 60, but have been a part of the Chicago scene since the beginning. The late 90s had some great bands come out of Chicago that were/are just as good as the bands featured in You Weren't There. Spare Change is still out there and rocking out, to name but one band from that time. The Fireside Bow was THE place to go to see great bands all through the 90s. Hope California is treating you well.

  • @gestell
    @gestell 6 місяців тому +12

    Effigies!!.. RIP Pierre and John... Earl was a monster guitarist.

    • @T.2.S.A.
      @T.2.S.A. 5 місяців тому

      to many of my Friends R.I.P. , I don´t forgot the good times we had.

    • @joedoomsdaypio4374
      @joedoomsdaypio4374 5 місяців тому +1

      I ran into Earl a few years ago- he's living in Phoenix.

  • @freelanceopportunist559
    @freelanceopportunist559 6 місяців тому +7

    Im 53 years old, and when i was a kid, fanzines were pretty much the only way to discover new bands if you were a metalhead, punk or goth, as none of those genres were spoken about anywhere on the media.
    You couldn't just search the internet, nor would they be in any published book or magazine.
    It was almost impossible to immerse yourself in any genre that wasn't mainstream unless you knew someone in it.
    Our heads would've spun if we knew a few decades later, just any dork could be claim to be part of the scene and not just a wannabe.
    Lol we would've hated that!
    Haha it was very exclusive back then. Also we were seen as totally degenerate with the satanic panic and whatnot.
    Its cool that everyone has access now, but it also kinda sucks....idk.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +4

      Fanzines, and, at least in Chicago, certain record stores were the lifeline of what was happening in the local punk community. Many is the time I would go to Wax Trax to find out who was coming to town, or when the next local show would be. Wax Trax always had flyers advertising shows, but at the clubs, and in somebody's basement.

    • @freelanceopportunist559
      @freelanceopportunist559 5 місяців тому +3

      @@nankypooh655
      I'm Australian. We don't have major cities nearby, or countries or continents.
      Being into underground music back in the day was the stuff of miracles where I come from.
      A miracle that fanzines made possible.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +2

      @@freelanceopportunist559 You had your work cut out for you, but I'll bet everybody in your scene probably supported it, and you probably had great bands nobody outside of your scene ever heard of. But the world still thanks you for The Saints, (At least the first two albums) Radio Birdman, and Celibate Rifles. I like Amyl and The Sniffers, and The Chats just fine, but I consider them punk in sound only, and not the genuine article. Australia is both a country AND a continent, so be proud of who you are, take stock in what you have, support your own scene, and if the bands are good, support them, and ROCK ON!🤘

    • @pisswizard
      @pisswizard 4 місяці тому +1

      I got into punk in the early 90’s and at that time it was still flyers at record shops, zines, especially zines from overseas, older people at record shops. Its slowly dried up. I’m from probably ten years after you. I do think you should put in effort for punk to be punk. There’s a lot of songs in this that I have not heard and as soon as the music kicks in, my hair stands on end.

  • @pedroleal7118
    @pedroleal7118 6 місяців тому +7

    Contrary to what people tend to believe, it's the 'Music' that will prevail and last. Of course there must have been lots of fights and feuds amongst bands, but the person who enjoyed it, at that time, doesn't care! I was on the other side of the Ocean (in Europe), and we were waiting for any new band coming from thoses places, no one cared (or was even aware), about problems amongst 'bands'. I can say 'Hard-Core' changed my life (for the better!), and still influences me as a musician/composer, although, there's not much people left to carry the 'torch'. Still kicking...!

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      Yes, sadly there were divisions within the Chicago scene at the time, most notably a rivalry between Articles of Faith and Effigies, with fans boycotting shows. Also, while Steve Albini was part of the scene, and played no small role, starting with the formation of Big Black, his opinions created further divisions in the scene, even though that might not have been his intention. Sadly there are many glaring omissions in this documentary, like NO MENTION of Space Place whatsoever, but as somebody who actually WAS there, this film gives a historical, and accurate description of what was going on in the Chicago punk community at the time. (RIP JOHN KEZDY)

  • @M_C79
    @M_C79 5 місяців тому +2

    I got to Chicago in 79 (from NYC), there was no punk scene. A handful of bands (including mine), a handful of clubs willing to let us play. Hardly a scene. I got back to Chicago (Wicker Park, coincidentally) in the early 90s, that's when things were happening.

  • @Rectitude4U
    @Rectitude4U Рік тому +24

    I was in OC. Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Adolescents, SF, Social D, TSOL, Wasted Youth… it was awesome.

    • @DizzyScribbles88
      @DizzyScribbles88 7 місяців тому +3

      Are you a name a dropper? hehe Just messin with ya....You must have a lot of talent. TSOL "In Time" great song.

    • @Palestinian_holocaust
      @Palestinian_holocaust 7 місяців тому +1

      Did u photograph and/or tape recorded the show????

    • @lonelybones8576
      @lonelybones8576 6 місяців тому +2

      And Agent Orange.

    • @anominous3895
      @anominous3895 6 місяців тому +3

      Shattered Faith,No Crisis,the Blades

    • @Johnny2Bags47
      @Johnny2Bags47 6 місяців тому +1

      I live in the city of Orange in OC and I used to take drum lessons from
      Bud Guagh (Floyd) not when the original Sublime..They had just started the Long Beach Dub All-Stars.
      I'm not giving my name But I ended up being a filler for a ton of bands. Some known and some that didn't make a real
      name for themselves.
      One real fun band I had the pleasure of playing 6 songs with Because I met Spike at a karaoke/sushi place and he was there with family members.
      Extremely nice guy . I gave him my email address and so a week went by and I figured oh well wishful thinking...well I got tan email and asked me if I wanted to perform on stage at punk rock bowling....it was Awesome!

  • @joeldukes303
    @joeldukes303 6 місяців тому +3

    I came to the thread just to see how far I’d have to scroll to find the “actually, I WAS there!” guy.
    First two comments delivered.😂

    • @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse
      @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 6 місяців тому +3

      Lol, me too, I was there!

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      Well, here's another I WAS THERE person. (And I can tell you there are some glaring omissions in this film, like no mention of DV8, who were a very good band, and had one record out, or The Space Place, which was the FIRST all ages music club in Chicago as far aback as 1980 even before Oz, and had Black Flag play there. Ministry was formed there, and Bauhaus played their very first Chicago concert there. To not talk about Space Place when doing a documentary about the fisrt generation of Chicago punk is like doing a documentary on The British Invasion, and not mentioning The Dave Clark Five)

  • @WestCoast-bp3uh
    @WestCoast-bp3uh 5 місяців тому

    where can we hear any recordings of sunday morning nightmares??
    especially the lux interview

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      I can't remember if Sunday Morning Nightmare was WHPK or WZRD, otherwise I would advise you to contact the university where the radio station was located. (WZRD was northeastern University, and WHPK was University of Chicago) WNUR was the radio station of Northwestern University, and on Saturday Night they had Fast and Loud which was four glorious hours of everything punk. Great to listen to on a Saturday night if there were no shows, and you had no place to go, and nothing to do.

  • @TheFujac
    @TheFujac 19 днів тому +1

    this was really great to watch...... unfortunately there are, ironically, far too many rules you need to follow to be a part of the 'punk' scene
    Edited to unfortunately add RIP Steve Albini

  • @ihaveouid3518
    @ihaveouid3518 6 місяців тому +6

    Born in 99 and studied archaeology but this is the one era of human history I wish I could go back and experience. So jealous I missed out on this scene

    • @Andyface79
      @Andyface79 6 місяців тому +1

      Well take a Delorean, put some old style cans on the back and go for it. Don't forgot the Chicago Flag.

  • @Hispandinavian
    @Hispandinavian 5 місяців тому

    This is great. For some reason I never thought of Chicago having a punk scene. I was still too little for any scene back then. In the 80s I went to school in the outlying town of Elwood, IL. I hated it.

  • @NanClaymore
    @NanClaymore 6 місяців тому +11

    As an aging punk there's a lot of looking back at the times in the past and condemning the idiots and jocks and cowboys who would hassle you for being punk, and not to much recognition that we were looking for that special thing that would get us hassled. If you went on the street on no one called you a fig, next time you tried to look more like a fig. That's kind of what it was about.

    • @finnmcginn9931
      @finnmcginn9931 6 місяців тому +3

      I grew up in small enough Canadian town that we all knew each other too well so we'd go to the next town to fight their local sheetkickers.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +2

      You're only scratching the surface. You're not even mentioning being refused service at stores and restaurants, being followed around by the store and mall dicks, getting harassed by the cops just because they didn't like the way you looked, being a victim of "Ped Hunts" or getting into fights at parties because you liked punk rock. We were making history at the time and didn't even know it. I sometimes think about all the people who hassled us, and how they must've reacted when their kids would rather listen to Green Day, Blink 182, and Nirvana, rather than Led Zepplin, Journey, and Aerosmith. If it hadn't been for Husker Du, Black Flag, and The Descendents, these bands wouldn't even exist! We did good.

    • @JorgeVelezMusic
      @JorgeVelezMusic 9 днів тому

      When I went to an (admittedly sub par) Sonic Youth show in the mid 90s and saw a group of loud jocks wearing black nail polish and Nine Inch Nails t shirts I knew it was cooked.

  • @TheChadTI
    @TheChadTI 6 місяців тому +3

    38:00 Total respect there. I love the ambition.

  • @badspasm1
    @badspasm1 6 місяців тому +10

    I always give credit to B52s to paving my way to punk rock/hardcore!!! Still listen to em to this day as well as my fav. Punk rock!!

    • @michaelcassady1289
      @michaelcassady1289 6 місяців тому +3

      b52s are not punk. Black Flag is punk. Cromags is hardcore. Circle Jerks is punk. Misfits, and Dead Kennedys are punk. Talking Heads, Thompson Twins, Blondie , and The Cure are not pumk at all. They have punk influences but not punk bands

    • @matteframe
      @matteframe 6 місяців тому +1

      B52s are the best hardcore band ever!!!

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      Yes, the first two B-52s album are definitely punk, and don't let anybody tell you different!🤘

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      @@michaelcassady1289 No, Thompson Twins AREN'T punk. Blondie were considered punk only for being part of the first generation of bands that got their start at CBGB, but they really got their musical cues from 60s girl groups like The Angels, The Ronettes, and The Shangri Las. Some of their early music does have a punk element, though, but even the band themesleves said they didn't really like being referred to as a punk band, nor did they want to be lumped in with The Ramones, DeadBoys, or Heartbreakers. And early Cure WAS actually punk, but, other than the single, Killing and Arab, and, to a lesser extent, Boys Don't Cry are really the only examples of how close they ever got to punk. And I disagree with you about The B-52s. Their first album is totally PUNK! Maybe you disagree, and, considering the direction they went after Wild Planet, I can understand why people wouldn't consider them a punk band. People say the same thing about Are We Not Men, by DEVO, and that was punk as all get out!

    • @beingagainstfascismisagood104
      @beingagainstfascismisagood104 4 місяці тому

      @@michaelcassady1289 well, we’ve been told… no … sorta, sorta , no, no… just?? ?

  • @Merylstreep1949
    @Merylstreep1949 Рік тому +13

    I WAS there!!! Naked Ray gun
    Fugazi
    Oh hell yeah

    • @anominous3895
      @anominous3895 6 місяців тому +4

      Fugazi?

    • @matteframe
      @matteframe 6 місяців тому +2

      Green Day, too?

    • @joelmaqueira4851
      @joelmaqueira4851 6 місяців тому

      Cool!

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      Not to be critical, but what, exactly are you trying to say? I mean Fugazi A)were from The D.C. area B) Existed in the 90s, and C) Had NO PART in The Chicago scene. I mean, it's nice that you're enthusiastic about good music, but your post can be rather confusing.

  • @v.c.webster9250
    @v.c.webster9250 5 місяців тому

    I missed Mere Vipere but lived for Wax Tracks, the only place to get vinyl from NY and London. We would trudge North from Hyde Park, Very interesting, all this. It was great to hear people talking about how narrow-minded it was then. Demolition Derby, all that i was happy to leave in 81.

  • @TheChadTI
    @TheChadTI 6 місяців тому +1

    14:25 😅 OH man. That's exactly why probably, I can see that during that time.😅

  • @TheChadTI
    @TheChadTI 6 місяців тому +1

    1:09 From that 1982 Social D documentary. 🤙

  • @rosecityronin
    @rosecityronin 4 місяці тому +3

    My friends and I ran around Chicago as young, dumb punk skaters in the late '80s - early '90s...it was rough business at those shows and all over...stompin' out p.o.s. N@zi skinheads is hard work. And fun as can be! 😁 And then there was The Alley & Wax Trax to hang around...and the "Punkin Donuts"...and Medusas...blahblahblah
    Alas, those winters are too brutal and I had had enough of the Midwest and have been a Pacific Northwesterner for 30 years now

    • @Jessica-yv9gn
      @Jessica-yv9gn Місяць тому +1

      Those were some good times though.

  • @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse
    @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 6 місяців тому +1

    1:51:45 oh wow! Had no idea Stephen Merchant was involved in the Chicago hc scene! 😱

  • @shovedhead
    @shovedhead 5 місяців тому +1

    Where can one find downloads of the Da records?

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      I couldn't and wouldn't tell you, but just do a Google search, and I'm sure you will find them. (HINT: When doing a search, use key words like "Blogspot" and/or "Download" I'm sure you'll be lead in the right direction)

  • @MrK-wu7ci
    @MrK-wu7ci 4 місяці тому +2

    Check out these Black punk bands that very few people have heard of. Highly skilled musicians - no 'three chords and an attitude' here:
    Death - For The Whole World To See (1975, released 2009)
    Pure Hell - Noise Addiction (1978, released 1995)

    • @Jessica-yv9gn
      @Jessica-yv9gn Місяць тому +1

      I had never heard of Death until recently and they are definitely worth listening to. One of those bands you wish you found sooner

  • @muzik-boxxx
    @muzik-boxxx 10 днів тому +1

    RIP ALBINI

  • @joshuaklein2859
    @joshuaklein2859 4 місяці тому

    Feeling that clockwork orange shirt! All these guys are extra bad asses without earplugs:)

  • @beingagainstfascismisagood104
    @beingagainstfascismisagood104 6 місяців тому +2

    I had "Boy George" or "Karma Chameleon" and, literally "Punk Rock f@ggO+" yelled at me more times than i can remember

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      For me it was either DEVO or B-52s. Those were the taunts hurled at us.

  • @franklinthomas7213
    @franklinthomas7213 5 місяців тому +1

    “You weren’t there”? Well I am now, and I’m deeply unimpressed.

  • @jeffsims8270
    @jeffsims8270 Місяць тому

    38:08 - Ok, well this beat sounds quite similar to 'Where Eagles Dare" (MISFITS) so.. idk.... what... to say after that... oh well🤷

  • @brendangeraghty8865
    @brendangeraghty8865 5 місяців тому +3

    God bless Wax Trax, Jim and Danny and Steve Albini.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      I can't totally agree with Steve Albini, but yes, Wax Trax WAS a God Send in many ways.

  • @mattkaustickomments
    @mattkaustickomments 6 місяців тому +1

    That toilet seat guitar was hilarious!

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      And he STIL plays it today.

    • @PinkyJujubean
      @PinkyJujubean 4 місяці тому

      I love how he opens it and plunges the dudes crotch. That's one of the funniest stage gags ever

  • @joeaquilino19
    @joeaquilino19 6 місяців тому +2

    Wow steveo was in the subverts

  • @SchizoMelody
    @SchizoMelody Рік тому +4

    Articles Of Faith must have pulled their music from the film!

    • @frenchabortion
      @frenchabortion 7 місяців тому +4

      No. Usually it’s pulled automatically from UA-cam. Trust me. They licensed the music for the film and it appeared in theatre and DVD. It’s just UA-cam being UA-cam

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      I ave the DVD, and AOF's music is ever present. Try to track down a copy of the DVD for yourself.

  • @hollywebster6844
    @hollywebster6844 5 місяців тому

    Anyone make a playlist from this video?

  • @janeburns7673
    @janeburns7673 6 місяців тому +6

    I started in ‘84. The title of this video is hilarious. All the older punks were pretentious.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      I was there beginning in 1977, and, I have to admit some of the people do come across with a certain sense of elitism and entitlement, but I think it's really a question of been there done that more than anything. I knew End Result personally, so I sort of understand their attitude. Vic Bondi was a jerk then, is a jerk now, and will always be a jerk. Everybody else in Articles of Faith, especially Dorien and Viru X were/are cool people, though.

    • @stevilkenevil9960
      @stevilkenevil9960 5 місяців тому +3

      Sry bud all punks from all genres are pretentious. It's part of being a punk

    • @janeburns7673
      @janeburns7673 5 місяців тому

      @@stevilkenevil9960 Fair. I do think my extended group were hilariously self deprecating and open to other types. But in general, you are likely spot on.
      My encounter with Steve Albini, however, would likely make him cringe horribly at least I would hope. It is a great story but too long to type out. What an absolute d bag moment from him. Still a genius and likely not what he was really like.

    • @stevilkenevil9960
      @stevilkenevil9960 5 місяців тому +1

      @janeburns7673 I lived it. I was the dirt head that lived at "the punk house". First thing I told those boys was that Metallica does better covers of misfits songs than the misfits themselves. Lmao you could have heard a pin drop 🤣 😂

    • @janeburns7673
      @janeburns7673 5 місяців тому +1

      @@stevilkenevil9960 Good stuff! I had a gal kick me out of her dorm because I said Danzig was influenced my Elvis.

  • @Pedro-uz8jz
    @Pedro-uz8jz 5 місяців тому

    1:19 Is that the girl they called Punky at the far right? Carol Blank?

  • @belladonna131
    @belladonna131 2 місяці тому

    TUTU AND THE PIRATES, LOL! "I WANT TO BE A JANITOR" 😂😅😊! USING A PLUNGER AS A PROP AND A TOILET SEAT GUITAR! LOL! 😂😅😊😂❤❤❤! HOW MAGNIFICENT!!!! IT CAN'T GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS!!! 👍 AND THEY SOUND GREAT ON TOP OF IT TOO!!! 😊❤!!!

  • @user-qb3os8qz9v
    @user-qb3os8qz9v Місяць тому

    Ya, kenangan-kenangan ini mungkin berasal dari keluarga yang menyedihkan. Menjadi pengemis bukanlah nasib menjadi pahlawan adalah pilihan...😂😂 yang aku tahu musik hardcore adalah punk dan itu menjadi kesenangan saat remaja

  • @kimkempus7806
    @kimkempus7806 3 місяці тому

    Much love from San Diego '81🤘❤ rock lobster🤭

  • @franklinalatee5597
    @franklinalatee5597 4 місяці тому

    What year was this made?

  • @TheChadTI
    @TheChadTI 6 місяців тому +2

    Tu Tu Pirates had some of the best members names ever.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      If you can find them, you should check out their two albums. The first is an unreleased demo from when they were first around in the late 1970s, the second is their reunion album. Both are excellent.

  • @MarkasTZM
    @MarkasTZM 5 місяців тому

    Anyone else at the Albini show at Princeton University in 83 or 84 when he set the Community House on fire during the show? He lit fires inside two 55 gallon drums inside an ordinary old bungalow house used as the center and the flames hit the ceiling and spread through the entire house/facility. Last concert ever there.

  • @buckodonnghaile4309
    @buckodonnghaile4309 22 дні тому

    1:53 spot on.

  • @finnmcginn9931
    @finnmcginn9931 6 місяців тому +4

    Everyone in the 80s lived in an 80s movie.

  • @mikedonn71
    @mikedonn71 22 дні тому

    These bands are all very good, and Kansas City had most of the same downsides as Chicago punk but with less upsides and only a handful of decent bands. Lots of black transvestites in KC too. It's similar but different than Chicago at the same time. Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, and the bigger coastal bands would end up at the American Legion and stuff. The scene over in Lawrence in Kansas was better, but it only emerged after 1985 at the Outhouse. Check out the documentary online called the Outhouse the Movie, if you can find it. Circle Jerks was my first show there. I'm 52.

  • @joshuaklein2859
    @joshuaklein2859 4 місяці тому

    Was liking the TuTu and the Pirates until that lyric “phony rock and jazz” did he really say that?!!!

  • @user-df1vc5eg6g
    @user-df1vc5eg6g 5 місяців тому +2

    Steve Albini is funny

  • @christopheraustin330
    @christopheraustin330 16 днів тому

    I went to north Chicago h.s. 82.83 84. Metro. Cubbies .mudusa. mc greavies.etc!!

  • @loveseat-honey
    @loveseat-honey 4 місяці тому

    Glad you said it was corrupt rather than conservative. Both sides can be corrupt despite it

  • @dedmex666
    @dedmex666 5 місяців тому

    1:33:00 song?

    • @aaaaaaaaaaron92
      @aaaaaaaaaaron92 8 днів тому +1

      "Temples of Corruption" by Negative Element.
      It's from their "Yes, We Have No Bananas!" EP

  • @colbyshea5915
    @colbyshea5915 5 днів тому

    I find it hard to believe there was only one female group? Although it's made clear that they couldn't get any gigs which doesn't bode well. I wasn't there, genuinely curious.

  • @frankwellever9445
    @frankwellever9445 6 місяців тому +9

    This is all about the Northside you guys totally missed about the hegewisch area in the south side they had a very thriving hardcore punk bands like Johnny vomit, the outkast, the Dobermans, zyklon b, dick slappers,Klub Poppa you need to go back and reevaluate this video add on the whole Chicago area

    • @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse
      @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 6 місяців тому +2

      Zyklon B were from High Wycombe, UK!

    • @frankwellever9445
      @frankwellever9445 6 місяців тому +2

      @@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse There must have been two bands called that the one I know was a underground punk metal from the Chicago area back in the early mid 80's

    • @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse
      @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 6 місяців тому +2

      @@frankwellever9445 ok this one was punk late 70s

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      This focuses on the first generation of Punk Rock, and Johnny Vomit didn't appear on the scene until 1986 at the earliest. All these other bands are second generation, after 1984. But, you do bring up a good point about lack of focus on The South Side, but they mostly kept to themselves. I mean almost nobody remembers The Torpedoes, who released Damn The Heartbreakers in 1983, or Certain Death who started releasing their own cassettes in 1984, and the Dial-A-Trance compilation. Also, End Result were from the south side, especially The Smith Brothers, who were actually form the Bridgeport neighborhood.

    • @nevermorethinkofme
      @nevermorethinkofme 4 місяці тому +1

      Hegewisch always gets ignored 😢

  • @hammerhead222
    @hammerhead222 5 місяців тому

    Yup

  • @dcraexon134
    @dcraexon134 3 місяці тому

    I don’t know about that stuff in LA and Solviegn 🚬

  • @ericcrawford9827
    @ericcrawford9827 Місяць тому

    I wasn't there, you weren't here

  • @kdenso3196
    @kdenso3196 6 місяців тому +4

    Funny, it is mentioned how conservative Chicago was. Far from that today.

  • @gregusmc2868
    @gregusmc2868 6 місяців тому

    Incorrect! (I WAS there!) 😂❤️👍🏼

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      What are your memories? Favorite band(s)? Did you ever go to Space Place?

  • @paulj0557tonehead
    @paulj0557tonehead 5 місяців тому +2

    Punk is Henry Rollins saying he loves Ted Nugent.

  • @reeb9016
    @reeb9016 5 місяців тому

    Not sure what is different about Chicago as opposed to other places in peoples attitudes towards punks in that time.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      There were plenty that was different. Chicago bands had their own sound. Plus in places like New York, San Francisco, SoCal, and London, the punk communities were bigger so there was more support, and more of a buffer, whereas Chicago, and the midwest in general at the time, people still listened to what is now called "Classic" rock, so not only was punk a lot less popular in Chicago, people tended to be more reactionary towards it, and more often than not, in a very negative way. A lot of times this would lead to unnecessary violence and police harassment. Like the title of the movie says YOU WEREN'T THERE! You truly HAD to be there to ave any understanding.

    • @reeb9016
      @reeb9016 5 місяців тому

      @nankypooh655 I guess Des Moines, Albuquerque, Boise, etc... could make movies with the same name and similar experiences. I'd say they may have gotten more hell.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      @@reeb9016 I'd have to go through all my old copies of Maximum Rock and Roll, but these places did have their own scene at one time. And you're right, they would've gotten more Hell than Chicago, especially in the early to mid 80s.

    • @reeb9016
      @reeb9016 5 місяців тому

      @nankypooh655 That's all I'm saying. Today, no one blinks at someone appearing different. They're ringing you up at the store. The 80s, no matter where you lived, it rubbed people wrong. Also what made it enjoyable.

  • @johnmuscia8499
    @johnmuscia8499 5 місяців тому +1

    Wazmo Nariz Wacker Drive ❤

  • @DizzyScribbles88
    @DizzyScribbles88 7 місяців тому +1

    J.T IV

  • @SK-le1gm
    @SK-le1gm 5 місяців тому

    It would be so cool
    If the filmmakers
    Just MADE UP “tutu and the pirates”
    Spinal Tap style
    Because what an amazing forgery that would be 😂 #mandelaeffect

  • @T.2.S.A.
    @T.2.S.A. 5 місяців тому

    Where was yourself? nowaday its hate 5 six and I Luv it

  • @jimbohi3648
    @jimbohi3648 5 місяців тому

    I heard guys calling me kiss and then actually plowed me down with a car in a 7-Eleven parking lot after a Cubby Bear show

  • @JillianRigsby
    @JillianRigsby 3 місяці тому

    I was there 🤟😎

  • @unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765
    @unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765 4 місяці тому +1

    My dad said that the punk scene in england from 76 to 80 was first wave people dressed black binbags and paperclips in noses and they used to spit on the bands if they liked them 😂
    80 - 83 other movements like oi singing about drinking, fighting and football and lefty commie bands singing about veganism and shit...
    85 - poser punks started with massive coloured mohalks ripped jeans my dad and hos brother's couldn't stand them.
    My uncle was in a local Manchester band no idea what they called but they were like a joy division kind of sound about 81 ish. Punks and skins would turn up and just smash each other to bits with sticks and flick knives.
    He also, said it was a crazy time to be a young man fighting at the football then playing music at some dirty student place. Hahha sorry for the long story.

  • @BardovBacchus
    @BardovBacchus 2 місяці тому

    I turned 13 in 1983. I was at some of those all ages shows in McHenry County cause my friends had older brothers, LOL ROTA Wholly shit I had totally forgotten about Verboten?!? I never saw them but I heard about them, the band of kids my age. You grow old and become the villain, but gate keeps like Steve A always were dicks. XD Kids these days

  • @KarmasAbutch
    @KarmasAbutch 6 місяців тому

    WAS
    BUSY
    IN ENGLAND
    🥳

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      That's nice. Sorry, but I'm fresh out of medals to award you at the moment.🤣

    • @KarmasAbutch
      @KarmasAbutch 5 місяців тому

      @@nankypooh655 come back when you have them then duh

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      @@KarmasAbutch Sorry, but the mint has closed up shop permanently.

  • @jonjones5152
    @jonjones5152 5 місяців тому

    What's Tick? Speed?

  • @LastBankJob
    @LastBankJob 5 місяців тому

    Check my correct politics.
    -Steve Albini

  • @charlesandrews2360
    @charlesandrews2360 5 місяців тому

    Yes I was there. Except I wasn't a punk, I was grungy.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      If you were there, went to the shows, and had friends in the scene/community, then it didn't matter what you looked like, you were an honorary punk on good standing, and people had your back.

    • @RK-eo8gl
      @RK-eo8gl 4 місяці тому

      ​@@nankypooh655Very true, I never dressed "punk" but I was, still am a huge fan of punk. My first concert ever was Black Flag who were playing at the Metro on Clark in the mid eighties. I had long black hair wearing a t-shirt and jeans. It didn't matter what you were wearing, nobody cared how you were dressed.

  • @inr2412
    @inr2412 7 місяців тому +5

    Lmao at the end when they're yaking about "ehh get your own scene. You should be annoying me." Nowadays we do have our scene. The reason you haven't heard it is because it's just as underground (or right below the surface) as yours was. It definitely looks and sounds much more diverse now too. Don't worry, grampy. We're on it lol.

    • @jamesgilbert91
      @jamesgilbert91 6 місяців тому

      "ItS mUCh mOrE DiVerSE nOw" Ugh! Good job valuing exactly what they told you to in school; how rebellious. And yeah PUNK was really SOOOO discriminatory against DIFFERENT people back then 😂 fucking conformist

    • @DJarry394
      @DJarry394 6 місяців тому +2

      You know what isn't punk? Ageism. I am aware there is some good stuff coming out of the punk/post punk scene today. I have encountered too many who like to pose as punk but resort to vomitous sexist, racist, ageist, homophobic shit. Too bad you missed out

    • @inr2412
      @inr2412 6 місяців тому

      @@DJarry394 eh, it comes back around, trust me. I'm sure these guys could handle the heckling anyway, especially given the context. I took what he said as a friendly challenge, what I said was comical reassurance. I'd gladly say it to his face and shake his hand. Definitely wasn't being hateful and definitely punching up, which is indeed, pretty punk, not that it matters lol.

    • @DJarry394
      @DJarry394 6 місяців тому

      @@inr2412 K. I mean light hearted ribbing is ok, but I get sick of the “granny” shit. Women have different experiences. Once a Mohawked kid really took it up several notches. I hung out with the Mohawk crowd. Back in the 80s they were friends, and never gave me any shit. My head was shaved back when women didn’t do that. This moron was downright obscene. This was verbal sexual harassment when I was just wanting to be left alone. I did dress him down as a poseur. He shut the fuck up. I’ve been a punk for decades, in one form or another, I simply hate it when obscene misogynistic trash talk is randomly thrown my way. What woman wants that? This was high school shit, and I had no time for it

    • @jamesgilbert91
      @jamesgilbert91 6 місяців тому

      @@DJarry394 you know what isn't punk? Giving a shit about offending anyone. If I could, I'd say a bunch of homophobic, racist, sexist things to you! None of which I believe in, but because they're your "sacred cows" & I piss on those.

  • @tomklasky8595
    @tomklasky8595 2 місяці тому

    Born and raised in Chicago never one time was this city ever conservative 😂

  • @zeruchofficial
    @zeruchofficial 6 місяців тому +3

    youtube adtech is garbage

  • @bradhardisty1652
    @bradhardisty1652 6 місяців тому

    Salt lake City actually had a Punk scene..Kind of.lile the movie. The No Rods. The Atheists.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      Somebody should make a documentary out of THAT!🙂👍

  • @ragnaviussnorgoborgoskagen5986
    @ragnaviussnorgoborgoskagen5986 5 місяців тому

    I prefer jazz fusion.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      Then you're on the wrong page, commenting on the wrong video.

  • @c-money6430
    @c-money6430 Місяць тому

    Old dudes gatekeeping punk rock 😂😂😂

  • @ballsackramen7842
    @ballsackramen7842 4 місяці тому

    FUK I was there

  • @WaitingForTheHook
    @WaitingForTheHook 8 місяців тому +12

    All the boomer comments at the end. So tragic

    • @sherylF5610
      @sherylF5610 7 місяців тому +1

      Lol I was putting some thoughts together to say the same thing. WTF guys.

    • @PinkyJujubean
      @PinkyJujubean 7 місяців тому +1

      You'd think they'd be honored that they influenced people decades later. Instead they're like "That's mine!". Typical boomer mentality

    • @sherylF5610
      @sherylF5610 7 місяців тому

      @@PinkyJujubean ah, don't generalize like that ok?

    • @sherylF5610
      @sherylF5610 7 місяців тому

      @@PinkyJujubean I do agree that one would think they'd be honored.

    • @PinkyJujubean
      @PinkyJujubean 7 місяців тому

      @@sherylF5610 I should have worded that better.

  • @TheRocketLombax
    @TheRocketLombax 2 місяці тому

    I thought the documentry was fine, I didn't like the whining of how punk died.

  • @mariusbabii
    @mariusbabii 5 місяців тому

    HEY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN I WASN'T THERE,.......LIAR,............MARIUS(PUNK RULES).

  • @dancrisafulli7768
    @dancrisafulli7768 6 місяців тому +2

    A lot of these distant recollections just paint the picture of wanna-be trendsetters trying to impress each other.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      Sorry you feel that way, but, as somebody who was part of the Chicago scene, and actually knows some of these people personally, I can assure you that this is not the case.

  • @chuckselvage3157
    @chuckselvage3157 3 місяці тому

    No thanks.

  • @robmadrigal714
    @robmadrigal714 5 місяців тому

    I think the L.A and Orange county punk scene was a bit better 😊

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +2

      I'm not going to comment on who had the better scene, but you really shouldn't talk if you weren't part of the scene, or if you have never travelled outside your own scene. Chicago was unique, different, and we more than held our own. I never got to see any of the SoCal back then, but I was constantly commuting between Chicago, and New York, so I can openly talk about both of those scenes and how different they were and what the similarities were. Chicago was, and still is, very overlooked, and underrated, but we held our won just fine, and everybody who was part of the Chicago scene supported it with all their heart.

    • @robmadrigal714
      @robmadrigal714 5 місяців тому

      @@nankypooh655 I was part of that scene and we just had the better bands and gigs 😁

    • @RK-eo8gl
      @RK-eo8gl 4 місяці тому

      @@robmadrigal714The Chgo Punk scene was much better than the Hollyweird punk scene.

    • @robmadrigal714
      @robmadrigal714 4 місяці тому

      @@RK-eo8gl I'm from Orange county so I wasn't far from L.A and idk if you ever traveled down here back in the day but guess everyone has their "better" as far as the scene went. Just L.A and Orange county bands were well known at the time

  • @stevilkenevil9960
    @stevilkenevil9960 5 місяців тому

    This doc is a mecca of left a rds socalists

  • @BB-je8hm
    @BB-je8hm 5 місяців тому

    i thought HICKS were here in TEXAS! now you CHICAGOANS are complaining/claiming to be accused of such insult...? boo hoo....

  • @user-cu7uz5le3h
    @user-cu7uz5le3h 6 місяців тому +6

    Hardcore was a sausage party and annoying.

    • @baronsaturday9560
      @baronsaturday9560 6 місяців тому

      Spanish Fuet, Turkish garlic sausages, en Groningse droge worst 🥩

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      Explain X, The Bags, The Alleycats, Catholic Discipline, 45 Grave, Lethal Weapon, The Avengers, X-Ray-Spex, Vice Squad, and, if we're going to focus on Chicago, explain Screaming Rachel and Remote, Bohemia, DA, and Heavy Manners, although that was really Ska, and not Hardcore. Sausage party MY ASS!

    • @user-cu7uz5le3h
      @user-cu7uz5le3h 5 місяців тому

      @@nankypooh655 it’s not just Chicago. All hardcore was a sausage party. Bunch of annoying guys playing music so unoriginal and copycat. Just a tiny bit turn out to be worthy and unique. Husker Du, Crusifucks, Naked Raygun etc. Still no women in the hardcore crowds. Who goes to see the music at that age. You’re there to meet women.

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому +1

      @@user-cu7uz5le3h You have no idea of what you're saying. People went to shows to see tha bands and hear the music, NOT to pick up women. and women DID play a very large role in the scene. Either you're not paying attention, or you're a troll.

    • @user-cu7uz5le3h
      @user-cu7uz5le3h 5 місяців тому

      @@nankypooh655 I know it well and I stand by my original comment. “Hardcore was a sausage party and annoying.”

  • @WeimaranersAreTheBest
    @WeimaranersAreTheBest 5 місяців тому

    Thank god democrats now hahahaha
    Way better
    Lock your doors !

  • @drobbi
    @drobbi 6 місяців тому

    And NO women in any band?

    • @nankypooh655
      @nankypooh655 5 місяців тому

      Were you not paying attention to DA? There were TWO women in DA! Of course there were a few bands that should've been included but weren't like Bohemia, and Screaming Rachel and Remote.

    • @christiandaugherty6339
      @christiandaugherty6339 5 місяців тому

      Oh no!

  • @jtkirby2931
    @jtkirby2931 5 місяців тому

    None of these guys look like they were ever punks.. the system eventually wins almost every time..

    • @christiandaugherty6339
      @christiandaugherty6339 5 місяців тому +3

      Most punks just looked like average unassuming people anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @EJisArete
      @EJisArete 4 місяці тому

      Thats just called age and a mortgage.

  • @EJisArete
    @EJisArete 4 місяці тому

    Looking back on the old Punk scene it looks like a mass psychosis than anything else. Cringe.
    I wOnDeR wHy ThE nIeGhBoRs WeRe So UpTiGhT???

  • @shootfirst2097
    @shootfirst2097 6 місяців тому +30

    What a waste. The Effigies were the top band in Chicago and barely a mention--
    about 3 minutes worth.
    The rest of these bands were just forgettable

    • @almostghosts
      @almostghosts 6 місяців тому +17

      Clearly you didn’t watch it. They talked about the effigies. 47:44

    • @shootfirst2097
      @shootfirst2097 6 місяців тому +5

      @@almostghosts Two minutes where they talk specifically about the Effigies is NOT
      "at length." Now wonder I missed it. A two-hour documentary about the Chicago punk scene should spend half the time just on
      the Effigies as they were the only GOOD Chicago band that had longevity

    • @marley1995
      @marley1995 6 місяців тому +3

      @@shootfirst2097they also talked about them at 1:05 tf are you talking about

    • @shootfirst2097
      @shootfirst2097 6 місяців тому +2

      @@marley1995 There's no mention of them at 01:05 OR 1:05:00, ree. thard

    • @baronsaturday9560
      @baronsaturday9560 6 місяців тому

      Jankerd 😩

  • @thedarkritual6675
    @thedarkritual6675 5 місяців тому

    This was a 2 hour yawn fest. Worst punk doc. I’ve seen to date. Thought it did reaffirm what I already know. I was truly spoiled as a teen growing up in NJ in the 80s/90s. I was minutes from NYC an hour from Philly. 3/4 from DC/richmond and we had our own thing going on in places like Rutgers and Hoboken.
    They should do a documentary on that!

  • @surfdad6759
    @surfdad6759 Місяць тому

    Wax trax was the shit. Oh man fucking good times. A real record store. Damn the good ol days