Before 1976 Revisited: How Punk Became Punk
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- Few genres have had the lasting impact of punk. 1976 is one of those seismic dividing lines in popular music. A history destroying year zero. The point after which everything changed. It was the year that The Ramones debut was released, the year that the first singles from the UK Punk scene were set loose upon an unprepared public. And while the punks wanted to remove themselves from the past, burn all that had come before, nothing happens within a vacuum. These bands didn't appear out of nowhere with the key principles of the genre locked in place. This innovative minimalist, three-chords and the truth, turbo-powered rebellious music had to have precedent. There were other artists that lead up to this era-defining moment in music that are either forgotten, ignored or not given credit. This is how Punk became punk.
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Fact-checking and Additional Writing by Serenity Autumn.
Soundtrack
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Jesse Gallagher - The Golden Present
Luar - Anchor ( / luarbeats )
00:00 Introduction
01:00 Before 1964: How Protopunk Became Protopunk
06:33 The British Invasion
10:00 Los Saicos
10:56 US Garage Rock
16:20 The Velvet Underground
17:56 The MC5
19:14 The Stooges
20:53 Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band
22:20 UK Protopunk
24:32 Glam Rock
29:29 US Regional Protopunk
33:39 New York & CBGB's
37:46 Pub Rock
39:45 The Saints
40:44 Sex Pistols
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What about The Misunderstood? 1965's Children Of The Sun:ua-cam.com/video/mrRImjZlD38/v-deo.html And for anybody's information John Peel managed them in 1966, but ill fortune avoided them becoming massive for their innovative sound.
Thank you for mentioning Radio Birdman this time around.👌
they might be minor quibbles but The Nuns were starting around '74 on the US west coast and became one fo the main bands in that scene also Cock Sparrer started in the mid 70s as a pub rock band and didn't really hit at that point... they grew a following in the early 80s... but have become punk legends in the last 25 years....
Completely overlooked Canada's contribution to proto punk. Yes we had some bands who's influence spread beyond our border and helped shape the American rock, punk, hardcore and alternative scenes to follow. See my comment below.
Maybe Los Saicos from Peru
even now, at 59 years old, I get a chill down my back and goosebumps when I hear the opening bars of Anarchy in the UK
'Rrrrright..nowwww...[diabolical laughter]'
Me too one of the classics if not the best
>> don"t know what i want// but i know how to get it>>>>>>>> YUSSS!
Great, classic tune. My personal Sex Pistols fave is perhaps "Problems," That sucker still rages hard. I've been playing guitar for 30 years and still thoroughly enjoy jamming along with "Bollocks."
@@colico14 Problems is also my favorite Sex Pistols song.
Thanks for including one band from my country, Los Saicos. Unfortunately, they didn't receive the fame and recognition they deserved, but they are at least known abroad.
The one band mentioned that is the most suspect. No "punk" should get any "band fame and recognition they deserved" at all. It's music for kids.
@@clvrswine what do you mean by "the most suspect" ?
@@clvrswine If you consider them "suspect" at all, then you have to consider most, if not all, of the 60's "Garage Rock" bands as suspect.
The Saicos were just playing what they considered Rock at the time, the term Punk would never have entered their mind. It was non-existant in any way at the time other than a theoretical attitude. So maybe in that regard ie: DIY and not caring what others thought, they could be regarded as "Punk".
@@clvrswine what does that even mean lol punk bands receive fame and recognition and this one didn’t, how is that suspect and why is that upsetting?
They're so gooooooood
As a person who lived through the 70’s, this is the best historical compilation of all the influences which came together to create punk, which I’ve ever seen. Fantastically well done!
Also, as a guitar player, I learned something too. I never knew that Link Wray took a razor blade to the speakers in his guitar cabinets. I thought The Kinks were the first artist to do such a thing. Bravo!…great video.
@@pangloss9thats what I've always heard also, who knew
Yep and well put
This is comprehensive but far from definitive. The decision to throw in every single influence possible needs to be narrowed down in favor of something closer to the heart of punk.
so what was the first uk punk single? got a bit confused between the australian dudes, the damned and anarchy in uk, it sounded to me as if he described the three band singles like the first uk punk single, I mean each time he metions those bands single releases he says " and this was the first uk punk single" so whats the proper order?
I think this video needs its own sequel "After 1976" showing what punk became and how it ramified. There is no genre like punk music, and I think your ending really encapsulated that. Above all, punk was and still is a life attitude. The fact that nowadays we have so many subgenera. From the Irish style punk mixing traditional Celtic songs and instruments to the west coast, communitarian surfer attitude of certain hardcore bands like Pennywise, and the ska/skinhed culture of British youngsters finely portrayed in Shane Meadows' This is England. Man, you really gotta make one of your video essays about the aftermath of early punk music.
pennywise ?
Punk Rock is in my soul for life...San Diego '81, first show...
I got told punk was dead... how? It's a lifestyle is the perfect example of why it can't die....not really.
I love Pennywise but when I think of hardcore I think of Earth Crisis, Gorilla Biscuits, Botch Dropdead, and the like.
For that Irish "Flogging Molly/Dropkick Murphy" fix check out Real McKenzies
For ska.. um damn I guess Ape Army or Looking Up (from Belgium)
Well, to get somewhat of an idea what punk became after the 70's and beyond, I would believe that The Saints influenced later on Green Day. The vocalist in that band alone sounds like what would be Billy Joe Armstrong
Glad you mentioned the cramps, I think their importance gets overlooked. Their attitude was 100% punk.
Plus their singer has one of the best stage names ever! Lux Interior RIP
@@williamz7011 The Cramps were the missing link between Elvis 1956 and Iggy Pop. I saw them several times in the early 1980s.
Their performance at Hammersmith, London 1984 has to be the most demented gig I have attended!
I GOT A 96 TEARS
Yeah, good to see The Cramps given a few seconds. Saw them three times at First Avenue in Minneapolis, always a don't-miss show. Lux Interior always stipulated they played rock 'n' roll, and that there was a difference between that and "rock music/rock bands." He was right. If it's not primal, it's not rock 'n' roll.
Cramps deserve their own Trash Theory video.
Love the chronology here. This is what appealed to me so much about Punk: how connected it is to early rock n roll, r&b, and garage rock.
As an Australian, I want to thank you for including The Saints in this video! Very overlooked internationally but extremely important to punk history
My husband’s favourite punk record? The Saints ‘Stranded’… Mine, Johnny Thunders ‘Little London Boys’… but then we’re Welsh… 😆 However , gotta LOVE the Sex Pistols… anyone at Screen on the Green? Never get tired of listening to my husband’s early punk experiences and tales!
Excellent video. Shall share 🙏🏾✌🏾❣️
Oh, The Saints are known well here by the groovy, the righteous and all the good motherfuckers. Also still remember almost coming a little when I found my copy of Radios Appear in shop in 1985-ish. Walked outta the store w that, Iron Fist. Overkill, and Only Theatre Of Pain under my arm, all for $10 perhaps. Sigh
Another thing to mention about David Bowie’s contribution is that him and Brian Eno were pioneers to post-punk with Low. A lot of post-punk bands like Joy Division and Bauhaus were inspired by that album and you can hear so many similarities to Low and future post-punk bands. Not just post-punk but post-rock as well.
To my mind, Low and the Bowie Iggy collab The Idiot informed and directed Punk rock in its infancy.Both were huge influences on all that followed.
The Idiot was also the album Ian Curtis hung himself to. RIP Ian
I can see that
I loved bauhaus's cover of Ziggy Stardust
Mhm.
On Joy Division's Still album, they have a live cover of Velvet Underground's Sister Ray and at the end Ian Curtis jokes "You should hear our version of Louie Louie". I suspect Joy Division never played Louie Louie, but it does indicate how important and influential that track still was as late as 1980.
If you watch the biopic of Factory Records / Tony Wilson "24 Hour Party People" (highly recommend as genuinely well written film) they do show a fictionalized account if Joy Division playing "Louie Louie"
about a year ago on twitter peter hook and a few others did a live 'listen-along' Q&A to the Still album and when sister ray came up i asked him if they actually did play the song or if it was just ian being funny, and he said they apparently did at least once! i'd kill to hear a recording of it but i wonder if one even exists
@@hughzapretti-boyden9187 I thought so too the first time, but the second two times I loved it
@@hughzapretti-boyden9187 Rumor is you hafta watch it twice...to get it.
I love that album.
Pretty sure punk before 76 was the first video of yours I watched, this revisit is incredible. It's so fascinating to hear the influence these bands had.
".......and perhaps worst of all, Emerson, Lake and Palmer" leaves us in no doubt where your feelings lie. A beautiful line. ELP were just one of many culprits whose careers suddenly hit the brick wall of irrelevancy. It was a siesmic shift in interest by consumers who, to their credit, just moved with the times. There wasn't a new legion of punk consumers. They were the same pre punk consumers who saw value and quality in new music and fashion, happy to shed dying trends. It was an easy change to make.
The art of simple song writing was rediscovered by the punk era bands. If you lived through that time you knew the old bands played boring self indulgent solos that only technical oriented musicians appreciated. The legacy of simple song writing, rediscovered by punk, has endured to this day, and that is incredible.
The UK has such a staggering legacy of great musical innovation, it's great when there's no need to perpetuate some frivolous old rivalry. If one is from the UK or USA (like me) we're just lucky to be born into the legacy of two nations that have together almost exclusively defined pop culture for over 100 years.
Here's to many more years of great music from wherever in the world artists have the urge to start something.
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It's all stolen from the blues anyway
Flammin' Groovies are definitely one of the most underrated bands in rock history! They weren't interested in the peace and love scene that was going on in San Francisco. They wanted to sound like Chuck Berry and Little Richard, with a little bit on an edge like The Rolling Stones. And it was actually awesome! At the same time when punk was beginning to become more popular, Shake Some Action was released. It sounded very British Invasion influenced, but it was awesome! And they're one of my top 3 power pop bands of all time!
Slow Death fucking slaps!
Before the hippies we had garage bands that sounded punk the kinks the who the troggs the raiders
@@leahflower9924 The Monks, The Standells, the Trashmen, the Sonics, Them, the Seeds, Chad Allen & The Expressions (The Guess Who), The Music Machine, the 13th Floor Elevators, the Rivieras, Los Saicos, Sam The Sham & The Pharaohs, Love, Tommy James and the Shondells, the Squires (Connecticut), the Easybeats, ? And The Mysterians, the Shadows Of Knight, The Remains, Count Five, The Blues Magoos, the Boxtops, The Electric Prunes, The Chocolate Watchband, The Rising Storm, and Nazz among many many more beginning with probably The Fabulous Wailers from Tacoma, Washington in 1959.
@@rocknroll_jezus9233 yes you know your 60s music too! Lol
@@leahflower9924 I forgot the Dave Clark Five but also Link Wray and Hasil Adkins was something else
I click on the video and immediately leave a like. To me, this is the best UA-cam channel ever. It talks about one of my favorite things in the world - MUSIC - with so much knowledge and reverence. Really, thank you for doing this. You’re making the world a better (or, at least, a less shittier) place.
Same here! Music will same the world, so someone needs to same music!
It's a really shitty channel. Puts out so much wrong information I can't even begin to go through all of it. It's really really bad journalism
I did the EXACT same thing. This channel puts in the time & work.
@@Syfoll it isn't really journalism, but hey ho. Musicology is opinion and critically motivated reportage. How many you listened to, then, or is this comment terrible journalism, motivated by personal disagreement, rather than actual research? 🤔 Serious question.
@@aidyshaw7711 I dislike this channel because they provide extremely surface level information, that in many many cases is also flat out wrong. I know more than them about many of the subjects they write about, so I can fact check them. Also, and this is an opinion, I dislike their approach as a whole. It seems that they just regurgitate general opinions, without ever nailing down on any specific point. It isn't wrong to be brief, and to operate with surface level information, but I find that good surface level observation tends to be seen as appropriate by the people who know more about the subject, band, or genre that they might refer to. I find most of their observations to fail in this regard. I wouldn't normally dismiss a channel so hard, but seeing someone like the OP, who showered them with praise, made me kinda angry, since I don't think they are worthy of such praise.
🏁🏁🏁For those of you scrolling to get a vibe if this video is worth your time...
This documentary is absolute 💯 perfection. This was so concise and to the point yet not too fast for the viewer to lose any information while maintaining objectivity throughout. I loved this.
The significance of every band and solo artist presented here is remarkable. This was not just entertaining, this was very educational and for so many different reasons. Going to watch again.
Thank you and God bless you a million times for posting this for us. 💖
I'm so glad you mentioned The Monks. They're such a cool and vastly underrated band with some super cool experimentation
…and Radio Birdman (an aussie here)
Yeah The Monks were insane for their time! Them, and The Sonics are maybe my most favorite if I hadda pick.
So glad you revisited and expanded on this one. Thanks for all your effort.
"...mass unemployment, strikes, rioting, ineffective government, and perhaps worst of all Emerson, Lake & Palmer." ...still grinning over that comment.
Thanks for adding The Monks - an extremely underrated group. Mark E Smith was a big fan and covered a couple of their songs on Fall LPs.
Black Monk Time is the best album ever made and The Fall are amazing too
yes I always wondered why they weren't in the first. I hate you is a classic
Got into them then recognized them in The Big Lebowski upon a second viewing
yeh great musically. bit twatty lyrically but a good sound.
@@bluebellbeatnik4945 Yeah but that's punk, innit?
I’ve watched this video three times.
I have several of these songs in my library, simply because I love them. I didn’t realize until watching this video how prolific the stages of punk are. Somehow I’ve I’ve kept up with the progression of punk without even knowing.
This really resonates with me, so thank you! Great job on the video.
Interesting…
Congrats!
I believe the intro to the Beatles' Revolution is worth a mention. As a grade schooler at the time, I'd never heard anything so raucous!
And Helter Skelter.
Man, i just worked a 12-hour shift and wanted to go to bed. I couldn't because i could not stop watching this thanks man great job.
Thanks man. I love the Stooges. Really like Ron Asheton's guitar work in perticular.
Ron asheton on stooges first album is my favorite
Same here, I learned guitar 2 years ago by playing Ron’s riffs and I still play them every day. Truly nothing quite like it.
Really love when a UA-camr goes back to their catalog and updates old videos with the new quality. No substitute for years of practice.
This is one of the best if not the best doco on punk I have ever seen.
So glad my fellow countrymen The Saints and others got a mention.
Great stuff.
Amazing video. I was a UK punk in the 70's and really had no idea of the history of the music. This is s stunning piece of music history .Thanks so much!!❤❤👍👍
I was listening to punk in the 1970s. A freind bought the Damneds New Rose in 1976, that was it. But it wasn't till later, actually much later I learned more aboyt the history and links. But a lit of those proto punk bands I'd listened to early on, before I heard tye Damned. Once I vegan reading the history, especially some of the glam stuff it all made sense.
I feel ya, two decades later I was a 90s goth kid so it was wonderful digging into the roots of my favorite music from my youth.
this is awesome & so rich. I would add 'helter skelter' by the Beatles as McCartney's attempt to outdo The Who's claim to the hardest song until then (I can see for miles). Even the Pistols were into that song, and the Banshees covered it. thanx heaps for this goldmining!
Interest
Couldn't agree more!
Even if the music of the Punk era did not interest, this documentary is so associated with almost all other musical abilities it is a great standard history of the Punk movement and it's musical history.
Thanks for this, I actually found so many bands here that I did not even class as Punk owing to just hearing one track and liking it, such as Golden Brown by the Stranglers, that I still listen to and love, that anyone interested in music cannot miss.
Glad Hawkwind was mentioned this time round. They were very important in the development of Punk
As were Motorhead, and the common denominator? Lemmy of course.
@@yodab.at1746 and of course Lemmy was also in the Doomed.. which was basically the Damned...
Let's not forget Pink Fairies.
The Hawks were big favorites of Joy Division, Sex Pistols, and Killing Joke. They were the first group I ever saw in February 1975, and they were fabulous.
@@robjones2408 LSD :)
Great job! Thank you for including Los saicos, they were such a great band.
This was the first punk documentary in a while that actually taught me something new.
This is brilliant! As others have already said... this is the best documentary of the influences on punk rock I have seen. Great to see Northern Ireland's Stiff Little Fingers included. As a punk rocker in the late 70's I regularly frequented The Harp Bar in Belfast.. which would have been Belfast's equivalent to CBGB's. This was at the height of 'the troubles' in Northern Ireland and punk rock music united both Catholics and Protestants and was escapism from the daily atrocities going on around us. Thank you for this great documentary.
Thank you for The Saints mention. I think they were in London in 1976, printed 200 copies of single "I'm Stranded" and Malcolm McLaren got the Sex Pistols into the studio when he heard it on the radio, or so the story goes..... Chris Bailey was a genius.
Ed Kuepper more so than Chris, especially when you look at their respective catalogs following their split. Laughing Clowns and Ed’s solo work is streets ahead of post 1978 Saints
Three words: "I Gotta Right" by The Stooges. It was recorded in 1972 but was deemed so extreme, the record label wouldn't release it at the time. It was issued in 1977.
The roots of Punk and speed metal start here. No group at the time was playing so fast, and that includes Deep Purple and Led Zep.
You nailed it, Iggy is the real deal, Lydon
close second
@@nrom6972 I saw The Stooges twice, with Ron and then James. They were in another league entirely.
Also saw The Sex Pistols in late 1976, they were superb.
Yes it sounded punk along with I'm not like everybody else by the kinks and my generation but I still think Ramones first album solidified punk rock
@@robjones2408 sex pistols were superb? Hard to believe, did you mean the clash lol
@@leahflower9924 I also saw The Clash a few months earlier, and they were excellent. I got to speak to Joe Strummer before they went onstage.
He was polite and good-natured. The Pistols with original bassist Glenn Matlock were fantastic.
As a NorCal girl I've got to mention San Francisco's The Dead Kennedys. I lived in London as a teen in the summer of '78, and sought out college radio here when I got back. They are the local punk band I found when I tuned in.
I can't believe he didn't add the dead kennedys!
DK formed in '78 - they were a hardcore punk band and part of the second wave of punk and punk inspired music.
My favorite punk band. Plastic Surgery Disasters is a masterpiece. Well Paid Scientist!!?? Beyond fierce.
They didn't start until '78. What about The Nuns, who started in '75? Great band, totally destroyed Sex Pistols at their last gig.
@@vanderlayindustrys Because they formed in 1978, already two years after Punk got its denomination. This video is all about the influences to what made Punk a genre leading up to its 1976 breakthrough.
You're a treasure. What I appreciate the most is your dive into the deepest roots of musical Americana to give an accurate evolution of a genre. You'd be surprised at how many young people think that their generation's subgenres are original inventions.
This is a really interesting reflection on the true ancestry of Punk, as usual meticulously researched and showing genuine understanding of what was going on at the time. Love this channel.
Punk started way before this.
This was fantastic! Really thorough. I got pretty into the L.A. punk scene in the 80's - and a lot of what was in this were a part of my journey.
The Animals?
Many of their songs are undeniably proto-punk.
Also, I'd kill for a playlist of every song name-dropped and sampled.
You’ve some work to do ! haha , fun work ... Radio Birdman is worth knowing . All of this of course ... one of the best I’ve seen . Alex Harvey should’ve been in there but where does it end ? Well done
You got Apple Music? I’m pretty proud of my Surf Rock and Garage Rock Playlists.
I made a playlist on Spotify
under the name “How Punk Became Punk”
@@zt5310 you're doing God's work my friend. Thank you!
I only stumbled upon this series recently and clearly Trash Theory is doing for modern day music history devotees what Pete Frame's Rock Family Trees and Terry Hounsome's New Rock Record did for my generation's seekers of the magic connections.
Bravo sir !
Your narration, narrative, and knowledge of the subject matter is extraordinary. Your editing, research and creativity mark you as the best in the business. Thank you for such engrossing content.
I learned about some of this early stuff from the Cramps. I never realized how many songs on their greatest hits were redone covers from earlier garage rock bands. Green Fuz by Randy Alvey and the Green Fuz was one of my favorite discoveries off that album. Lux and Ivy must have an amazing rockabilly/garage collection. Also didn't realize that Rollin's Band song "Do It" was a cover.
Compilations of Lux n Ivys rock n roll/rockabilly record collection are out there in number. inc releases Fast Jivin Class Cutters , Trick or Treat, Records Records Records my faves. You cant go wrong..
Do It is what got me into Rollins Band , fantastic cover . Those ‘89-‘95ish shows that I saw were pretty much the best at the time , incredible. I love covers , a great introduction to a band when it’s right . Prong covering Get A Grip was another at the time that got me to dig further , Cleansing that album , tour & show 10/10 !
So much music ... Saw The Cramps 3X early mid 80’s , awesome and so much fun . Toronto’s Concert Hall ‘79 > ‘90’s was my epicentre, an hour drive and a buzz that lasted ... years ! haha
@@daevidharvey7113 Do It was a favorite of mine in high school. didn't know it was a cover for almost 10 years.
i was never a fan of Prong but i had a copy of the Prove You Wrong EP i got in a dollar bin with Get a Grip (harm mix) and thought it was a great cover. The song that i didn't realize was a cover for the longest period of time would be the Circle Jerks' Wild In The Streets. blew my mind when i found out.
As an Aussie I'm very happy that The Saints & Radio Birdman got a mention - we were seeing these bands before we even heard about the overseas punk thing!
this has to be one of your best vids!! so thorough & well put together, i learned soo much!!!
Super quality documentaries from this channel! Really enjoying these! Thank you!😊
I always learn so much from your videos! Such an enjoyable/informative watch. Definitely is inspiring me to check out more punk bands 🤘
I love The Sex Pistols having a go at Roadrunner on The Great Rock & Roll Swindle.
I read this great article once where the writer went into this long spiel about how the Sex Pistols became The Sex Pistols with their recording of Johnny B Goode /Roadrunner.
It was all about the deconstruction of what had gone before and how the embracing of Roadrunner was the means by which they crawled from the wreckage of all that old stuff they had just kicked all over the place.He even narrows it down to Paul Cooks cymbal crash at 5.15 as the moment the smoke cleared and they began their climb up the mountain.....I know,it sounds like a load of pretentious guff but when I read it then listened to the 2 songs,it made perfect sense.If I ever find the article I'll forward it to you...hhahahaahhaa....(bet you can't wait.)
AYE DUNNO THE WUHDS
Great revision to an already great video. It's wonderful that you went back to fill a few gaps. Extra excited to see a few frames of my fav band The Armed at the end too :)
Los Saicos, what a band! They were great at that year ! Thanks for the video
The Pistols were the first live band I ever saw. They played my little seaside town in the North of England in '77. I was only 8 years old & obviously was not allowed to go but the venue was only a couple of hundred yards down the road & my older cousin was going with all his friends so I was like 'if they're going I'm going'. So I sneaked out & tagged along. The guy on the door thought it was hilarious so he let me in. I went home covered in beer, other peoples' phlegm & god knows what else but I had a great time. It was so loud that I had a ringing in my ears for a week & it took me that long to be able to sit down again after the whooping I took from my dad, who was waiting for me slipper in hand when I climbed back in through my bedroom window lol. Still, it was a special night that I'll never forget & well worth the pain. Ah, good times, good times.
I so much laughed reading your comments that I cried !!!!! So good
Excellent. You've been a kid hero !
One Protopunk band I think gets often overlooked (don't blame anyone for doing so though, since they are German and sang in German about German issues) is Ton Steine Scherben. They started in 1970, shortly after came to fame when they asked their fans to smash up the venue of a gig where the venue managers took off without paying the band; the fans subsequently went on to set the stage on fire while the band played on of their biggest hits "Macht kaputt was euch kaputt macht" (Break what breaks you). They released possibly the greatest German album of all time, "Keine Macht für Niemand" (No Power to No One), in 1972. While musically, especially their later work might be considered a bit too complex for being Punk, their earlier songs and especially the bands attitude very much are. For a decade, the band was basically inseperable from the leftist movement in Germany, some of their gigs ended in squatting nearby buildings. Their influence still reaches until today not only in German punk, but rock in general, and even into other genres such as German Rap. I fully believe that the only reason they are not usually consideres a punk band is the simple fact that punk just did not exist at their peak, otherwise they would probably be considered one of *the* greatest punk bands of all time. In Germany that is, as mentioned before, much of their music does not translate well: still, I recommend everyone interested in punk music to look some of it up, it's brilliant music.
B. Bargeld ( from E. Neubauten & Nick Cave's Bad Seeds ) have mentioned them as one of his favorite underground bands from the '70s .
Brilliantly written and presented!!! Best punk doc ever...please do more!
Utterly fantastic. Totally love your output. You the man. X
This is easily my favorite episide you've done so far to date, i really like what and how you covered not just in this one, though, and I really do enjoy all of your work that you've submitted so far. But I really really want to see a more in-depth video on U.S. and British psychedelic rock from around '66 to like '72 or so. Would love that! Great work. Love your channel you do awesome content its among my favorite on UA-cam. Thank you.
There were thousands of Garage Rock bands of the 60s throughout the world.
In 1998, a four CD box set of 'Nuggets' was released. It featured the Sonics, Monks, Love, Barbarians, and Radiers.
The MC5 later signed on to Atlantic records, recording and releasing two more Lp's.
The Magic band had a second Lp; "Strictly Personal."
There was also the Shaggs, Edgard Broughton, and the Deviants.
was larry wallis in the deviants
So good. Thanks for all you do. Your content really makes me happy. Love the dives into music and your insights!
Absolutely killer video essay, masterfully done good sir. Thankyou!
If someone told me about some of the influences an hour ago, I would not have believed. What a fantastic video! This is college quality music analysis and I love this so much. 🤘
The one thing I learned from this: The futility of even trying to put music into genres. It serves a purpose I suppose, you can tell someone you're into Death Metal and you'll have a pretty good idea of the type of music they listen to. But in the end it's like trying to classify animals or plants... it's an incredibly intricate task. And it blends and there's many blurred lines.
Good to see The Saints mentioned. If you can get a hold of the Dogs In Space DVD there's a brilliant documentary in the extras of Melbourn's punk scene in the 70s. Today The Chats keep punk alive and relevant down under.
The Chats are great...picked up their 'Get F*cked' lp a few weeks ago. Hoping to see them supporting Queens Of The Stone Age here in Scotland in November.
Thankfully I have discovered your podcast Channel. Not only is the subject matter to my liking but there is a part of my work day where I have to sit and do what I call busy work that will drive you absolutely batshit crazy if you don't distract yourself. Fortunately, I am unable to put the earbuds on and just listen to whatever I want and your podcasts have saved me from going absolutely crazy. Keep up the good work
The wildest and most punk Rockabilly song was "Train Kept a Rollin'" by The Rock and Roll Trio, often called Johnny Burnette's Rock and Roll Trio.
Extremely impressed! I'm sure many out there gave a significant piece that contributed to the remake. With that, this compilation feels infinitely more complete, traversing the world and placing greater emphasis on the planetary zeitgeist of the 60's and early 70's that converged to create one of the greatest music genres ever belched out of the bowels of this planet! Well done!
The best documentary I have seen about pUNK and where it came from. In depth research has gone on here, brilliant editing. You got a massive amount of info into less than an hour. Had me sitting on the edge of my comfy arm chair. Good on you!
Fantastic! Just purely fantastic! I just love finding out about the roots or all kinds of musical genres and this does just that and even more! Again, FANTASTIC!!!
One of the best documentals I've ever seen.
Great compilation of the main bands who gave birth to this awesome social movement and music
I really loved this video the first time it came around, and somehow you topped my love for the original video. Amazing video, as an aspiring "Punk Historian" this video blew my mind with so many things that I didn't know beforehand. Thank you for making my day!
It's awesome that lots of old bands are being discovered that predate what people had thought of as the canon! Also would love to see a video on Killing Joke or Godflesh, two insanely underrated and influential British bands!
A lot of these 60s garage bands are more punk than so called punk bands nowadays
Wow! What a brilliant documentary, the research + all the information it provides in this film, is superb.
Well done, you deserve great credit, I hope you get it.............
Excellent chronological timeline of the influences of punk and punk itself! Very well made!
Well researched, edited, and compiled. Born in '60, never cared for any of the screaming, but do appreciate the links to R&B, and the technical structure that was never apparent to me at the time. Thanks for this comprehensive documentation of social evolution.
See now this here is why I'm a patron. Also you get bonus points for pronouncing Brisbane correctly. Well done!
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to make it. I’ve got a few bands to check out
Really well researched and delivered. Thank you so much!
One of the first videos to mention the electric eels and rocket from the tombs, the cleveland punk scene has finally gotten recognition!
Fantastic update! I really liked the original, but there were some notable omissions. I'm still watching, but this version seems much more complete. Well done!
This was simply wonderful!!!! Best I’ve seen in a long, long time!!
Wow! I'm hooked, insightful, detailed, totally convincing analysis. Covers I had no idea were covers. Brilliant work, there's always a precedent somewhere... Xx
I'm so glad you did this over .the first one was great but I'm so glad you revisited it and added things .glad to see even a suggestion made . I enjoy your content . I still will say this . Im really glad you mentioned Sisrr Rosetta Tharpe. I'm also glad you really mentioned the R&b influence- which people try to disassociate from punk when talking about it.. but its obvious to me..People forget about that being not only and influence but also the presaging of rock n roll.
.i can also see the jump blues let alone regular blues and even gospel connections as well. . Even the British invasion bands like the Who calling their stuff "Maximum R&b". Also it with respect to you. I have to say , Bunker Hill was more of a gospel artist( not blues ) . He went under his pseudonym because of not wanting his gospel group to know he was singing secular music when he did the song with the Raymen. -DIG THAT SONG .. your video is where I first heard the song and I did a video about him on my black history of rock n roll channel so thank you for that .
So rad to see james brown mentioned but I feel like wilson picket shouldve been mentioned as well. his song "1001 dances ". Should've been mentioned with the pace of the music and also his wild screamin.- you can hear that up tempo R&b bear with the Jam. The Buzzcocks and many of those Pub rock bands .Also Screamin Jay Hawkins ( yes I know you mentioned him in n the goth video rightly so). . The Love had more of an influence on punk than the Song 7 as 7 is" .they influenced punk and many off shoots of punk ( post punk/indie and baroque pop ) as well they hav free been covered by the Ramones and the Damned as well. Shoot they even influenced many of their contemporaries like the Doors - who also had a major influence on punk ( Iggy pop mentions them) speaking of Iggy Pop , he and groups like the MC5 have also referenced jazz - espcially avant garde or free jazz as a huge influence. Many of the Beats were kno to jazz many of them .were pre punks as well. Seems like many of those early punks were post beats as well ( look at patti Smith ) even andy Warhol. Seems like the velvet underground looked like Beats playing rock n roll - their themes were themes the Beats didnt shy away from- which some were controversial . Some honorable mentions. Los Angeles CA band the Music Machine were a dark sounding garage rock band that wore all black and died their mop tops black and wearing one glove . They had a dark groovy ghoulie psychedelic sound to match their dress style. They were known to play garage shows - perhaps may be one of the first bands really associated with the term 'garage rock" .their song "talk talk" sounds like a punk anthem .to be honest they reminded me of an even darker version of Love when I first heard them. But yes I really think they should be mentioned. Another mention is another LA band, Zolar X . This is one of those bands from the west cost of LA that is an early link between glam and punk in look and even sound. It's like they took that Ziggy stardust look and made 4 of them . And the Sound it self was cr fast paced 🎶rocket roll🎶 with buzz saw guitars for the early 70s . Also Detroit band the Punks are important becsuse of their name and sound in and of it self - they had that rowdy street gang look and sound even before the Ramones existed. Another honorable mention is Philadelphia band Pure Hell .they were a glam band called pretty Poison before. They were am actual band who had that Reved pup sound to the point where a few of their songs sounded like early hardcore punk . They played many historical punk venuee from New York ( cbs,Mud club , max's) to the UK ( the Roxy) to Los Angeles ( the Masque) with many their trail blazing 70s punk contemporaries . They dont get as much props as they should for being early pioneers as well. Their album "noise addiction " friggin rules !!. 2 other honorable mentions are Davey Allan and the Arrows ( check out the song "Blues theme ) .last but not least is Belgian band BLAST a bunch of young kats taking what bandsike the Stooges did and wveing up even faster and louder in 1973/74... peep the song "damned flame " out. Whoops I almost forgot another mention from Australia that should also be mentioned. The band Colored Balls . They had a pre punk sound and seemed to look like Sharpies . The sharpies were a group that looked similar to the early Skinheads of England but with kind of a few differences look wise. Check them out .. sorry for being so long winded but you said to give our opinions thanx again for your work . Peace n blesSings to you 🙏🏾☦🦋🎸⚡🎶❗
I really loved the video! I found it very informative and well done! Although I wished you talked about 60s Girl Groups because they had a profound influence on the punk movement. Bands like the New York Dolls, The Dammed, Blondie, The Ramones, etc. made various references to them in songs such as “New Rose” and “Looking for a Kiss.” For the most part groups always cited them as a major influence, not only in music but also in fashion and attitude. For
instance, The Ronettes and The Shangri-Las’ “band girl” appearance and point of view.
* “bad girl”
@@lomieblum3583 RIP Ronnie Spector. .
could you give some more examples of references? I listen to a lot of both genres so im really interested
Is she really going out with him?
Beautiful beautiful video man. I watched the first one a long time ago. But this one took the cake for sure. A lot more coverage of the 60s porto punk and a lot more awesome names. Thank you.
Good video. Appreciate the research and work that went into it.
Great video! You did a very thorough job of mentioning all of the key players from Rhythm/Blues to New Wave. One thing I would like to learn a little more about are the labels that got started specifically to push that sort of music; a lot of this stuff wasn’t pushed on Major labels for awhile until they saw it was profitable. Chiswick did a good job and got a lot of them started from 1975 on, but who else was doing it? That would really start getting into the nitty gritty though, I can understand why it’s not included here. I haven’t looked through your channel yet but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was already in an episode somewhere. Once again great video, very interesting and informative. Subscribing!
As a latin american myself, I really apreciate the addition of Los Saicos, we really do have a ton of artists that were ahead of the curve, or creating incredible new ideas, but they never get covered in the mainstream as they did not have an impact in the english speaking mainstream.
@klijakuarikki wut? Didn't get you
Thank you for doing the very important work of documenting this history
incredible work put into this. fantastic
Really informative and entertaining. Loved it. The only song I can think of not mentioned (and i get it, you can't mention EVERYTHING) was the Yardbird's reworking of the song "Train Kept A-Rollin' ", "Stroll On" in 1966. Such a jagged, aggressive song for its time.
honestly it's amazing how fresh Anarchy in the UK sounds at the end of this video after all the raunchiest hardscrabble, shoutiest knarliest sounds in rock history
Fantastic video! Lots of bands that I haven’t heard of here! I’m going to explore them. Thanks so much. Really well done! 👍
super cool research, man - thank you for putting this together. Also enjoyed that James Brown Live at the Apollo after your heads-up
Very cool. In addition to ELP, Joey Ramone (I think) mentioned Kansas as one of the over-refined, over-produced, over-musicianship bands that were kiliing the essence of R&R and so needed to be rebelled against. Your video also made me wonder about the influence of Punk on Rap, especially Gangsta Rap. ---- As a musician trying to make it in the 70's, I didn't really get Punk. Thanks for helping me!!
Rap may not sound like Punk, but the ethos is the same: Don't have the proper resources? Do it anyway! Cheapo drum box, else vocal beatboxing, rap it out... RunDMC and Beasties were the sonic crossovers there, while rapping itself may link back to the reggae sound-hall toasters.
@@cquirke1 "The "C" in rap is silent" - George Harrison
Thank you so much for mentioning The Trashmen. Their contribution to punk is overlooked too often.
Your essays are fantastic. Keep it up bud
I loved this, can’t wait to watch all your vids
This is great. Really shows the roots of punk. Not just one band, person or philosophy. Thank you.
Thanks! That was so interesting and although I've always been a punk diehard I learned a lot.
What a vastly entertaining and illuminating history of Punk's origins!!! Fantastic job! I learned a lot and I thought I was pretty knowledgeable. I enjoyed this SO MUCH!!!
BRAVO👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Honestly you never disappoint. Believe it or not when I clicked on the video I was hopping for some sort of reference to Emerson Lake and Palmer and you delivered in a grand way.
I'm glad the Stranglers got a mention, albeit briefly-some of the artists mentioned here were influenced into forming bands through attending their early gigs.
That was great. I do think a mention of the Doors, or more specifically the audience baiting aspect of Morrison, as well as at least some of the music (Break on Through..), would have been welcome.
They also made that “Gloria” cover as well.
OUTSTANDING RESEARCH, CREATIVE PRESENTATION AND AUTHORITATIVE HISTORY OF ALL PUNK ROOTS. YOU'VE GOT THE CHOPS, THE PASSION AND THE INSIGHT. Thank you for doing your homework - and mine! I knew most of this, but learned a lot, too, and had a ball coming to class, prof!