5 Ways To Make Money As An Indie Game Developer
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You're right on with the Indie game industry taking off. I haven't bought a AAA game in years. Indie games have so much originality and heart, I love them. The big studios have become money hungry...rarely innovating the medium in any kind of way.
Agreed
There are plenty masterfully crafted AAA games out there.
Your first project $30.000
My first project -$800
There might be a little mistake here...
There is: You doubting yourself. You rock, keep it up! :)
@@cfryant wait, keep it up about im doubting myself or make games? 😂
@@Bamboodium Both. Doesn't hurt to stay humble. :)
Up to perhaps $5000 is what I would consider probable, although $5000 is a bit high. For example if you pay a great musician to write some music for you, it adds to the cost.
@@Omewga that's minus 800 ;-;
Thanks everyone!
We r waiting for u man. Awesome🙌🙌
Great video Thomas :) ! I like the new thumbnails by the way !
+Atmos Games - Much respect, think you're a bit younger than me but nonetheless, you're a real boss and an inspiration man! Well done and thank you for the great, informative videos, I've liked them and subscribed to you because of them. Keep killing it Thomas! :)
+Slippy - If you meant me, sure, I turn 32 this august.
Keep working hard and maybe one day you can be free enough to sit on a beach.
6:33
I like that: throwing nets into the ocean, the more nets you throw into the ocean, the more opportunity to catch fish
I have watched a lot of your video's and I really just want to say thank you. It is such an inspiration to see people living their dreams. I wishlisted your game and I'll be picking up a copy as soon as I can to further thank you for the invaluable information you freely give us. I love seeing people's years of hard work paying off. You earned it bro!
I had no idea wish lists were beneficial for game developers, I'mma put more stuff on my wish lists now, I generally just tend to buy stuff as it comes out.
@VampireDuck That's not true. Wishlist's are public. Therefore if none of the original wishlisters ever buy the game, the game is still visible to their friends who may see it and buy the game, buy it for them... etc. It's publicity.
@VampireDuck Fair enough, guess I only look at friends lists on occasion to see if I can gift them something on sale.
@VampireDuck I know that this is one year old but steam will recommend games that friends have on their wishlist
@@somekindofpanem4877 Also, the more wishlisted a game is, the more likely that game is to be featured on the steam homepage once it's released.
I really like it when I come upon newly started channels that offer truly useful content
I have learned more from your video than i have learnt from the experience of three years developing games. Thanks man! Subscribing to you this instant.
Going Solo here and that's exactly how I feel about crowdfunding, hence why I've been staying away and doing my best to just get the project done... I feel odd asking for funding for "nothing" up front but hopefully my work will pay for itself when I'm done.
Thanks for the advice bud, it really helped gauge if I'm going down the right path.
i appreciate you and your content. Im not sure if it was this video or another one where you mentioned feeling like you have no time to get to your project so you'd rather spend time doing the art or programming instead of coming up with a plan through research, but I really needed to hear this from someone other than myself. I'm in that boat right now where I only get a couple hours a day during the week and then somewhere around 6 or 8 hours on the weekend to work a little more. I sometimes feel like I'm never going to get anything off the ground so hearing that someone else has been there and has made it through is really nice to hear and helps maintain a good perspective for me.
This is the first video I watched by you and let me say this. It is amazing advice for people like me who is just starting out releasing their software or games and trying to grow a business. Thank you, subscribed!
i just love how honestly you share your experiance, thanks!
Some sound advice here. I'm fast approaching releasing my first game (for VR - which is niche as hell, heh). So good to hear a voice such as yours. And I agree, the current AAA industry is giving us an opportunity to make a name for ourselves. And you're right, we are passionate about what we do - you have to be.
The info about striking a fair deal with publishers, opting for gross over net, wish listing on steam to drive the revenue and retaining IP for profiting from different avenues of your creation are all 200 iq BIG brain tips. This video is insanely informative for people serious about being a game developer, especially an Indie developer. I appreciate and respect you for that. This video was very wholesome, helpful and like I said informative. Kudos!
Hey Thomas, great video thanks! Love your personality and your genuine desire to help aspiring game devs!
sounds like very solid advice right in line with what I have heard and what I think. Very reassuring to hear that. Lets get it done man!
Great video. I think for social media it's best to use it as a tool. Maybe schedule it into your day or have a plan on how you're going to use it. I can't count the amount of times I've found myself scrolling aimlessly on Facebook or Twitter and that probably isn't good.
12:00, so pure and true statement man! That is what the games were about and what they should be about. Playing video games used to be so fulfilling with the type of games we used to play as a child and that is what the passionate indie community is try to nurture. You won my heart on this one man
I thought ok i'll watch this dude..seems to have an insight..jumped on your channel and saw your game Coma...WOW..fantastic sound too...
Thats some awesome advice. I really like the publisher part. Thank you so much for sharing that. I will keep that in mind this year when i will show my vertical slice to a publisher
Thomas you are a huge inspiration for me, thank you for posting this!
Thank you, Thomas! Love your vids and yes, I would really appreciate a video about kickstarter.
Best of luck to you :)
It’s really cool that you share your experience/knowledge/insight into the world of video game development, and it definitely makes me want to check out your games that much more. I’m curious to know, what are your favorite games of all time?
So helpful and with a hint of insight...thank you!!
Great video. Thanks for this information. I would love to see a video on how to launch a kickstarter
This is great man. Right now Im doing some freelancing and also working on my own game
I typed a line of code. Where is my minecraft money?
hehe fancy seeing you here :)
How much ram dioes it take to server?
You made COMA?! That game has stuck with me since I found it randomly on one of the free to play games websites. Such a beautiful game, can't wait for Once Upon A Coma now!
This is a quality video!
I have this problem of having big ideas and too little time for them. Of course I limit myself to start small, but I want to be doing my biggest ideas so bad, but studying on the university is hard, being a one man army doesn't help, and I'm also not the richest of the bunch. But the dream of snowballing with each release is there. It's just sad how I can't focus on doing my thing.
Hope you've been doing things to pursue your dream, man :) Thought I'd drop a comment to let you know that finding people in the same situation as you, with different skill sets, who want so badly to be working on something, to be releasing something, is not hard at all in this day and age! If you try and find (online) communities of such folks, you will. There's so many of us out there.
Thank you for sharing information. Really motivated and face off.
great video, keep making such videos ! a suggestion make a video about how do you get your art,music done as a programmer !? , or u can just answer by replying!
Cool video. I was in a startup company. We tried kickstarter. but didn't make the goal. It was still a good experience. I hope to find an indie team again that needs a 3D artist.
1. micro transactions
2. profit
3. recycle game and reskin it
4. microtransactions
5. profit
6. repeat
🤑🤢🤮💀
EA
@Øath betrayer This guy microtransacts.
I see an asset flipper, even if the assets are your own.
EA wants to know your location..
These are great tips - applies to a lot of creative projects.
I was re-playing the original Flash version of "Coma" quite frequently since I discovered it years ago while Flash was still a thing. No idea how I missed the full release, though *__*. But that little experience back then had a considerable impact on my vision of what indie games can really offer. Thanks!
Good tips and advise for new indie game developers thanks.
Thanks Thomas, love your dedication. Do you have a vid/tips on when/how I can find test players for my game please?
Excellent! Thanks for this!
v informative thanks for sharing your experiences
Great video and very useful!
Another source of revenue for indie developers is the game asset packages. Warren Marshal a veteran game dev now freelancing has a youtube video sharing tips, experiences etc. and basically said that freelancing can be a bitch sometimes. So if indie game devs havent launched a crowd founding campaign for what ever reason, the asset packages can be an alternative source of income.
Great tips, thank you for your time and effort.
I just got an idea how I'd get rich in just 2 ways:
1. Make game
2. Sell cool designed t-shirts about the game
brilliant ( stupid )
smaz eleu do u have a degree in business or what?
Ovidiu Butnariu idk, does Trump has one ?
easy to say，hard to do.
My idea, create a keyboard too with the game images
Well i gotta say as a teenager, i really feel inspired bc i’ve always had a love of video games at a young age till now and i wanted to base my business on it but didn’t know how but now i know thanks to Thomas :,), so a big Thanks
thank you for this video
it's really helped me to overcome my fears : )
Thanks for sharing your tips :)
Great vid! Subbed!
Thank you, nice video ! its very helpful :)
Ever since I got a PC I've pretty much given up on AAA games and buy exclusively indie titles now. Not only do you find new and interesting ideas, art, and stories but to me it feels like a lot (not all) of indie developers really care about what they are putting out there along with actually caring about and listening to the consumer. P.s. pinstripe was great!
Thank you for your advice :) !
Hey Thomas, do you recommend blogging and promoting early in a project is the way to go? Thanks.
I learn a lot from this channel
holy wow.
your back is enormous
it's 11 : 50 at night and I was telling my wife about you and your channel. She said i should bookmark it and i said i had subscribed. Then i looked down at the screen and i was not subscribed. Bad... Bad Me. How did i not sub? So tomorrow i will have a meting and have the other three sit down and watch some of your videos. Very good advice and information. We are putting up poster-boards in our office room here at home and writing things on them from people with channels giving advice and information. i feel strongly i can not write your advice on the Lime Green or Pink poster-boards, so i will move the Black Dry Erase board from the kitchen in here and write yours on it. i will nick name it the Atmos-Board.
Never Give Up Never Surf Alone
This is really helpful 🙂
Thank you for the insight
Thanks for making this video. :)
Subscribed. Great video.
Very inspiring. Thanks
I don't even make games but I found this very interesting!
Thanx for sharing ! Really Thanks !
Thanks, man !
You inspire me bro,👍🏻💪🏻🎮
How do you spend the money you get? Are you alone in charge of art, music, script, and programming? Or art and music to others to do? Or part of the entire game to others to do.Please tell me,thank you,I want became an indie developer.
Is it hard to get in touch with a publisher? I made a small puzzle game with a little twist... But I'm having a hard time getting a audience for it and I don't kniw if I should try to contact publishers or just put it on itch.io/gamejolt with pay what you want. Any advice?
+Pizza Train - Speaking from itch.io experience of posting 2 games in 2 months it kind of depends on how you feel about it? have you had anyone give you any positive feedback on it? If not, and you're uncertain of the quality, maybe just throw it on itch.io and get the ball rolling, my first and second game were just posted to itch to slowly build an audience / followers from there, for each game I posted a link to the games on facebook and for the first one I send private messages on there reaching out to around 25 friends and family I thought may be interested, who mostly checked it out and donated $1 or slightly more to be in the credits.
If you feel the i.p is strong enough to be in demand and the game is polished enough maybe just upload it to steam direct using your own cash without a publisher and pursue marketing it yourself to indy game review websites, etc? Speaking from experience having a small audience by only reaching out on fb, if your game is good enough / original / something people will be interested in and you've heard that people think so too (that actually play / know the games market); more actively chasing a publisher may be a good course of action as handling marketing without one can be tough if you're not experienced with it.
One regret I have is not polishing my games enough (ie. only making / releasing them both in 1 month each; 2 games made in 2 months) and as a result of them being fairly short and unambitious I didn't feel confident enough to reach out to any websites or reviewers, lets players, etc to generate more publicity. As it is, after my facebook posts and launch of both, now those people have come and downloaded / donated already the views have gone down to 0. :/ That said I am speaking also from experience of pursuing making my own games with projects often lasting many months / years before I give up working on them, before deciding I will finally just make and release games quickly to get out there and learn more from the experience than spending years making things only to scrap them.
Hope this helps somewhat. ;) Best of luck with your game and whatever course of action you pursue. Will be keen to hear back and give it a play when you do! :)
Great advice!
What's the best marketplace for selling T-shirts and other merch? Is it all on demand for them or do they require you to invest/buy a print run of each product? Also, if it's all on-demand do these merch companies require a minimum number of orders before they invest in a bulk print run? Are there typically a lot of delays on the merch company's side when you first get started, and are they transparent about what's going on/what you should expect moving forward?
Amazing video, dude. What would be a good number of Wishlist to have to go and talk with an publisher?
Excellent look in your games! Do you do all the art yourself? Or do you have an artist?
He's animating and making the art himself pretty sure since I watch his spine videos where he animates
Have you released other smaller commercial projects, or is Pinstripe your only commercial product?
you are really realistic still motivated me
Hey Thomas, this may have been mentioned already, but how many wishlists did you end up with before launch?
Muy buenos consejos ,.muchas gracias
Hey, thanks so much for this video. It was really helpful for me, and you just gained another fan :). I have a question about a project I am working on, I would love some quick advice, but I don't want to ask it here so I might send you an email or dm. Again, thanks a whole bunch for this video :)
With That voice and face you should be an actor dude love your videos lol
Thanks for the video, Brendan Fraser.
thanks for the good advices o/
WHOA. My next game Neversong comes out on Steam MAY 20th! Wishlist now to snag that tasty launch discount :) store.steampowered.com/app/733210/Neversong/
Hey how would you suggest I grow my social media accounts for my indie game studio?
How do I get a team to work on a game as well manage pay. And how do manage them feel like work friendly
Hello, i would like to create an RPG / Roguelike game in the genre of old "Dungeon master" or "the Eye of the beholder", using 2D bitmap graphics, like these old games, unlike "Legends of Grimrok" which uses real 3D. Do you think there would be a market for it ?
Indie dev Michael Bublé? :v
Wish I have the courage to start a kickstarter
spock you will find courage as you research and work on it. Just start working on it!
Hello Thomas, can you DM to let me know which publishers you would personally recommend? I`ve worked with a publisher before on my first novel and I had a very, very bad experience. so I had to self-publish my first novel. However, now that I am continuing the novels in Unity game format now (and I pretty much have everything else that you mentioned here already set up), I think I might be ready to find a new publisher. I`m currently living in Tokyo, Japan, but I`m American so I would like to find a good publisher stateside if possible. Could you DM me?
very informative, just wish listed your game!
I've been working on a indie game project for 4 years, yet it's not released so far, the leader always want more features, and that pushes more and more work to us year after year, but we are only a small team with 6 part time members :(
Quick question what's the best way to find game developers? It's pretty time consuming building a game on my own.
Have you considered going to game jams or hackathon
Thank you
Nice video
Patreon is the best crowdfunding
Where do I get quality assets and how to upload to a platform :(
Hi sir,
i want to develop an indie game inspired from a movie i love, i want to use the main caracter of the movie and a little bit of the story and modifie it, the prblm is should i get an authorisation to do that ?
how to deal with copie rights ?
please sir answer me or make a video about that .
Respect
You should be really careful with others' Intellectual Property. You can get into big trouble very easily if you don't have an agreement. Getting a deal on using one is pretty expensive and close to impossible as an indie. I would recommend a different path, I'm sorry :-/
Thank you
Mohamed Linux just make it doesn't matter battle royale the movie concept was stolen and look how much money they're making
contact the movie company, and see if you can get a full royalty license. This means no money down, they just get 50% or so of the money you make off of the game. They might give you the og models if its cgi or something
S L U M B E R stop giving advice that can put people in the courtroom. You can make whatever you want, but don't release it commercially. Also, what you're talking about (a concept) is nothing like taking an actual licensed character from an existing property and putting it in your game. The latter is downright illegal, and WILL end in a C&D if you're lucky, or a lawsuit if you aren't so lucky.
I want to be a game dev. What do you suggest as a beginner with no knowledge of programming languages from where or from which software i should start?
TheSam Download Unity and just start taking tutorials. Learn everything you think you can, and then some more. Then, if you don’t have any original ideas, just try to copy some other games until that lightbulb turns on.
You should decide what exactly You want to do in game dev.
Can people put up their game dev setup? Seems like a this is so basic but people don't cover it. But this is used 100,% of the time . Anything to help work flow.things like monitor setups and such.
Inspiring.
1. Just Release something - establish credibility.
2. Consider Publishers - be careful, advance money, get a lawyer, gross revenue or net revenue split, choose gross revenue.
3. Exploit your IP - do not sell your intellectual property, for other revenue ie shirts about game.
4. Utilize Social Media - marketing, use effectively, build a following, use tools for effective communication, create wish list, email lists.
5. Crowd Funding - Kickstarter, etc.
awesome!
Greetings m8. Thank you a LOT for these videos. I have just reached you via Unity blog, while taking my very first Unity lessons on Udemy.
Anyway; I took Dramatic Writing education at College for 4 years and have been working as an advertiser for around 3.5 years. I hate it - obviously. Just like you I want to tell stories...
Maybe I am giving way too much details about my personal life but here is my question: Would you prefer to go with a story which will grab a lot of attention in your local place/ country or go with somthing more universal?..
For example, I live in Turkey and games about Ottoman Empire are very...VERY... popular. Though I am not sure how much their profit and how good their quality is.
I can not decide whether to make something international or focus on something more local...
What would be your oppinion?
Kind regards
Ilker
Hocam selamlar. Kesinlikle globali hedefleyin. turk oyun sirketlerinin hepsi gelirlerimizin %99 yurtdisindan geliyor diyorlar. Ayriyetten ben bir sayisalci olarak sizden dramatik yazma veya senaryo yazma konusunda tavsiye alabilir miyim?
KOOL IM ABOUT TO START TO
Do you have to have a publisher to release it on steam etc.?
Steam allows you to submit a game on steam direct without a publisher but you'll need to pay a registration fee.
You'll have a harder time getting it to physical stores like EB games without a publisher, especially in any sort of prominent shelf space.
Edit: That's game stop if you're not in Australia.